COMPARISON IS THE THIEF OF JOY

Summary

The Carpool with Kelly and Lizz Episode: "COMPARISON IS THE THIEF OF JOY"
Date: November 12, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, sisters and car reviewers Kelly Stumpe and Lizz St. John explore the theme of comparison—how it impacts their roles as mothers, business owners, and content creators. They approach the topic with their signature humor and honesty, drawing from personal stories and listener questions. Along the way, they offer practical philosophy for navigating the pressures of parenthood, discuss car industry news, share lifestyle hacks, and sprinkle in relatable banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power (and Peril) of Comparison (05:10–13:39)

• Kelly shares her "Fast Lane Philosophy": “You can’t compare your start to someone else’s middle.” (05:13)
  • She recounts her YouTube beginnings, feeling inadequate next to established reviewers like Doug DeMuro, only to realize everyone starts somewhere.
  • Quote: “This is our start. It’s not our middle.” – Kelly (06:18)
• Lizz expands on how this applies in motherhood, noting it gets easier with experience:
  • “Don’t compare the mom of three with yourself just starting out.” (06:44)
• Both agree: “Comparison is the thief of joy.” – Kelly (07:26)
• Advice from Kelly’s assistant, Matney:
  • Rather than "comparing up" (to those ahead of you), sometimes "compare down" to see how far you’ve come and build gratitude. (08:04)
  • Serving others is suggested as a remedy for jealousy or envy.

2. Romanticizing and Accepting Daily Chaos (08:46–12:55)

• They advocate for embracing the mess and imperfection of parenting.
  • Lizz: “Some of my favorite Instagrams are from moms showing regular kitchens and real life.”
  • They discuss the value of minimalism and not chasing every new trend or possession.
• Social media, despite its pitfalls, provides an archive of growth and change.
  • “I don’t journal. I feel like my Instagram archive is my journal.” – Lizz (10:43)
• A touching insight about learning from older mothers and the continuity of motherhood (11:46–12:55).

3. Motherhood, Preferences, and Winter Survival Tactics (14:44–18:08)

• Kelly unveils her theory on actually wearing winter clothes, especially as a mom who rarely bundles up because she’s always in a rush.
  • “As a Midwesterner, we just don’t dress for winter, we’re always running from the car to the store.” (15:57)
• Both consider the mental benefits of spending time outdoors, properly dressed, despite the chaos of getting kids ready.

4. Pop Culture and Social Trends – Gen Z Slang and Kids’ Influences (22:40–24:31)

• The sisters learn the Gen Z word “unk,” which is a stand-in for “okay, Boomer” or calls someone out for being out of touch. (22:41)
• Discussion on how school and peers influence their kids, from slang to wanting Nike shoes.
  • “It’s crazy how much influence school and other kids can have on your kids. It’s kind of disgusting, actually.” – Liz (24:12)
  • “Spoiler alert: kids are annoying.” – Kelly (21:21, 24:49)

5. Lifestyle and Beauty Recommendations (28:47–34:52)

• Kelly’s new dry shampoo discovery: Crown Affair Dry Shampoo (Powder), which is used with a brush and a blow dryer.
  • “My best hair day is after I use it. It’s a life-changing product.” – Kelly (29:22)
• Lizz recommends Talova Tallow Face & Body Balm for deep, winter hydration.
  • “I didn't know it was tallow, and I love it.” – Lizz (31:07)
• A negative review of a med spa hydrafacial—“Heavy on the med, light on the spa.” (33:41)
  • Kelly bemoans the lack of pampering in the med spa experience.

6. Listener Car Advice: Electric Truck Dilemma (35:01–38:37)

• Listener question: Is buying a Ford Lightning electric truck a good idea for a family?
  • Kelly: "I love trucks as mom cars. They're excellent for families." (36:28)
  • They discuss the forecasted future of electric trucks, alternatives like the Chevy Silverado EV, and the practicality of buying used.

7. Car Industry News: Best-Selling Vehicles (41:50–47:55)

• The sisters compare the top-selling cars of 2025 to those of 2015.
  • Ford F-Series and Chevy Silverado remain on top; notable newcomers include the Toyota RAV4 and Tesla Model Y.
  • “The only sedan on this list is the Camry. People just are not into sedans as of late.” – Lizz (47:39)
• Cybertruck as a police car in Vegas sparks a fun tangent about its cultural reputation, notably depicted as a “loser car” in the show Chad Powers. (47:55–51:33)

8. Ditch the Drive Thru – Easy Dinner Recipes (52:01–55:32)

• Lizz shares her go-to Pesto Chicken Pasta recipe:
  • Bow tie pasta, store-bought pesto, heavy cream, Parmesan, and roasted Brussels sprouts with balsamic glaze.
  • Banter about recipe preferences and family routines.
• Kelly plans her first attempt at oven-baked chicken wings, expressing some nerves and anticipation.

9. DWTS Corner – Dancing With The Stars Predictions (57:45–60:10)

• Final thoughts and strong opinions about which contestants should go home:
  • “If Andy stays and Elaine goes, I will be done. Done with the franchise.” – Kelly (58:13)
  • Lizz: “Even in her injured state, Elaine is still light years better than Andy.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You can't compare your start to someone else's middle.” – Kelly (05:13)
• “Comparison is the thief of joy.” – Kelly (07:26)
• “I don’t journal. I actually feel like my Instagram archive is my journal.” – Lizz (10:43)
• “I love trucks as mom cars. They're 100% slept on.” – Kelly (36:28)
• “Heavy on the med, light on the spa.” – Kelly, on her hydrafacial experience (33:41)
• “It’s crazy how much influence school and other kids can have on your kids.” – Lizz (24:12)
• “Pop Tarts—what’s the craziest way you could eat a Pop Tart? Two at once!” – Kelly & Liz (27:20–28:14)
• “The Cybertruck is the scariest car in my opinion, and I think it's a great cop car.” – Lizz (48:16)
• “If Andy stays and Elaine goes, I will be done. Done with the franchise.” – Kelly (58:13)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [05:10] – Fast Lane Philosophy: Comparison & Self-Acceptance
• [08:46] – Romanticizing Chaos & Minimalism
• [14:44] – Midwest Moms and Winter Bundling
• [22:40] – Gen Z Slang ("unk") and Kids’ School Influences
• [28:47] – Beauty Shop: Dry Shampoo & Tallow Balm Reviews
• [35:01] – Advice Segment: Going Electric with Family Trucks
• [41:50] – Industry News: Best-Selling Cars
• [47:55] – Cybertruck Pop Culture & Police Cars
• [52:01] – Ditch the Drive Thru: Pesto Chicken Pasta & Chicken Wings
• [57:45] – DWTS Predictions and Hot Takes

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Overall Tone & Style

• Relatable, conversational, honest, and often self-deprecating
• Encouraging of real-life moments and embracing imperfection
• Playful sibling banter with room for vulnerability and sass

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Transcript

[Liz]

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[Kelly]

Welcome to the carpool podcast with Kelly. Some of the teachers say they're like, it's a bad word. You say it. Which I don't know if I necessarily agree with that because it's not a bad word. Like, things can be annoying, but that's not a bad word. Kids are annoying. I mean, spoiler alert, kids are annoying.

[Liz]

And Liz, like, obviously you're gonna bundle your kids, but, like, by the time your fourth kid is bundled, you're gonna go find a coat. You're already running 15 minutes late.

[Kelly]

Your mom time off starts now. Come back to the carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz in studio.

[Liz]

In studio. In. We have. I didn't know where you're going with that. We're not together. That was kind of confusing.

[Kelly]

Well, I was going to say in Fudio, like fake studio, but I didn't know if he would know what a foodio was.

[Liz]

I would not have known what a foodio was.

[Kelly]

We're in our foodio and this is. This is 2025 where we buy the same crap on Amazon, set up our phones to try to make it look like we're in the same room.

[Liz]

Let's make 2026 like a huge year for the Carpool.

[Kelly]

That's my word of the year.

[Liz]

What?

[Kelly]

Carpool.

[Liz]

Carpool. Just like, focusing on the carpool. Feeding the carpool.

[Kelly]

I just love being a podcaster. And do you feel like if you were at a networking event, would you rather tell someone that you're an influencer or a podcaster?

[Liz]

What has.

[Kelly]

What is more like. I mean, a podcaster sounds so much more professional.

[Liz]

It's like the most embarrassing thing in the world. When someone asks you what you do and you're trying to describe, like, it's easier to just say influencer, because then you got to go. Well, me and my sister, we have this platform when we review cars or moms. It's like a short version, influencer kind of thing. No, it's the most embarrassing thing to say.

[Kelly]

I won't say it. I'll say automotive journalist. As I'm a car reviewer. I say I'm a car reviewer.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

But if I felt like maybe in 26, I'll start trialing. I'm a podcaster. Oh, I do a podcast.

[Liz]

Yeah, I think. I think we can. Because actually, like, the podcast is doing really well.

[Kelly]

Right.

[Liz]

So we just have to. And Kelly and I have actually, we've been talking a lot about the podcast in our plans for it, and we actually have some really fun. We love Side Hustle Summer. We love having segments, like ser not segments. Series. So we have some really exciting series coming up. And honestly, like, at the end, some days I'm like, this is my podcast. I can say whatever I want. But other days, like, I'm feeling today, I'm like, this is your podcast. Like, what do you want from us? Like, literally, tell us what you want. Like, we'll give it to you. Like, we'll do it for you. Like, whatever you want.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

And I'm very much about, like, feeding you well.

[Kelly]

We really, like. I like interviewing people who maybe typically wouldn't get interviewed. Like, that's why I love side Hustle Summer so much, because we talk to some people who, like, you know, are your influencers, but we also just literally talk to some regular moms. And I find regular moms to be the most interesting people on the planet. So I just think they're some of the smartest, well versed people out there. So, yes, we have ideas. I don't think we're already, like, spoiled because we're still workshopping them. But similar to Side Hustle Summer, we're going to be bringing some more like, guests on, not for the whole episode, but for parts of the episode to Teach us tangible takeaways. And that's the thing. If it's not in meat and potatoes, it's not on the podcast. Because we're only here to give you meat and potatoes, no fluff. Speaking of fluff, I did have a. I thought we would be able. I thought I'd come up with a better segue talking about, like, our new.

[Liz]

Studio.

[Kelly]

But I guess I won't. So I do want to say that, like, I wanted to kind of kick the episode off with a fast lane philosophy.

[Liz]

Oh, okay.

[Kelly]

Where I share something that's piqued my curiosity.

[Liz]

Okay.

[Kelly]

And, you know, it's something that I've said before, but it really is something I kind of, like, live my life by. And it's one of my favorite quotes of all time that my husband gave me. Well, or he kind of came up with it, and then I found a person who said it. But it's that you can't compare your start to someone else's middle.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

I say this a lot because when I. And I'm going to give you the backstory, but when I first started on YouTube, YouTube felt so intimidating because there were so many other car reviewers who were doing such a good job. And I remember being like, I am never. I'm not gonna ever get to that level. Like, this isn't possible for me. And Tyler was like, kelly, who's the biggest car viewer ever? And I'm like, Doug Jamiro, he's been on the podcast.

[Liz]

Huge deal.

[Kelly]

Kind of biggest deal of our life.

[Liz]

Actually. Dougie DeMiro recently liked one of my photos. I didn't realize. I think he's following me on Instagram.

[Kelly]

Wow. Huge.

[Liz]

Which is a huge deal for me. Okay. Sorry.

[Kelly]

Anyway, so Tyler goes, go watch Doug demuro's first video. We watched Doug demiro's first video. It was horrible. Yeah, horrible. So he's like, that's who you need to be comparing yourselves to. And I'm like, well, my video is better than that.

[Sam]

Your first?

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

So it's just the. So similar with our podcast studio. Am I obsessed? No. Are you shadowy? Yes. Do these hot. Do these curtains look like hospital room dividers? Yes. All of that is true. But this is our start. It's not our middle.

[Liz]

It's our start. And you've got to start somewhere. And I agree.

[Kelly]

Yeah. So just something to think about. And how else can you apply that to just, like, all facets of your life?

[Liz]

Well, and I think, like, just thinking about motherhood, you know, like who you were when you started. When you were like, let's say you have three kids now and you were a mom for the first time and you couldn't fathom for going to the grocery store with your one baby and now you have three kids and you're like, hey, if I can go to the grocery store with just one kid, I. I might as well be alone. It's so easy and just so that like you'll get there. Like if you're going through a hard season or like you're seeing other moms like looking like they're doing it better than you, A. They probably aren't or that's just what they're posting out there. And also like, don't compare the mama three to you, like beginning like trying to figure it out with your one baby.

[Kelly]

Yeah, comparison is the thief of joy is another one that they like to say.

[Liz]

It is a thief of joy.

[Kelly]

So it is. And this was something that. If when you're. This was something that Matney, my virtual assistant, she's like kind of been posting on Instagram. I don't know if she wants me to say that or not, but she's. Have you even. Have you been following her? Yeah, she's dabbling. She's dabbling her toe in the micro influencing. Anyway, she was talking on her stories about how she. She goes to therapy. She's a huge advocate for it. And they were talking about comparison and she shared this on her Instagram, so I think I can share it her public Instagram. It's fine, right? Manny's not gonna care.

[Liz]

She's not gonna care.

[Kelly]

And she said we so often compare up. But so if you find yourself comparing up, start comparing down and then see how you feel about yourself. And I always am a really big advocate in believing like if you're going through a season of your life of like intense jealousy, envy, comparison, which we all do. I mean we're all humans. I find that one of the best ways to kind of like recenter and ground yourself is to serve in some capacity. Whether that literally just be like serving at your kids school, your church, I mean or like a more traditional like food bank, soup kitchen, etc, just like doing something for other people is like, it's so healing for comparison. I find, you know that.

[Liz]

And also just like romanticizing. We've talked about this, but like romanticizing the chaos and romanticizing the phase of life that you're in right now. Those are some of my favorite Instagrams to watch is when she's like, I'm just a mom in a Regular kitchen. And this is what my house looks like. And we don't buy new things every time there's a new drop at Target and we don't do this. And they just, like, show what a regular life and what a regular house looks like. And I find it to be very healing.

[Kelly]

And.

[Liz]

Then you can just, like, look around your own house and just be like, wow, this is working. And I do, like the older stuff, and I don't always need new stuff. And, like, having just stuff and stuff and stuff just, like, adds so much stress. It's so much more to clean. I just love the minimalist and.

[Kelly]

Well, and that's why I really. I love that everyone has a phone now and that we now have social media platforms that can. It's just different than what it was. Anyone can go viral. Anyone can have views in any. In any. In any home, in any season of their life. And that's really why I just, like, always. I know it comes with a bit of a cost, and it's not for everyone, but, like, that's why I love when people post online. I think it's really. I think it's healing and helpful for the person doing it. I think it's creative, and I think it's so needed to put, like, more of that, like, regular content out on.

[Liz]

The world, you know? Yeah. I just also love capturing, like, this phase of life, too, and, like, having that, like, my Instagram and my stories. Like, because when you. You can go on your stories and, like, I can go look at what I was talking about in April of 2022, like, leading up to my wedding. And I. And I was just talking on my stories all the time, like, G thoughts, like, and it's just fun to see how much I've changed and, like, go back and, like, look at that girl. And it's like, oh, wow, she had time to, like, work out all the time. She's so unrelatable, and it's just cute. And I think that it's. It's a good. I don't journal. I actually feel like my Instagram archive is my journal.

[Kelly]

Totally.

[Liz]

And it's just, like, seeing phases of life that I'm in.

[Sam]

So I like that.

[Liz]

And I also saw this Instagram. I'm chronically on Instagram. I need to start sharing my reels. So I've been seeing some really good reels. And it was this grandma now. She's probably in her, like, 50s, 60s, and she talked about how she had four kids. Four kids in five years. And she goes, my House was destroyed constantly. There were goldfish everywhere. It was chaos. It was crazy. And they had a wonderful childhood, and now my house is clean all the time.

[Kelly]

Yeah, I know. You can't. You can't hear those reminders too much. We went to Mom's yesterday, and I walked into my mom's house, and, like, it is. Her house is beautiful and it's clean. And I was like, oh, my gosh. I'm, like, so jealous that this is your house. Like, I'm so jealous. Like, your house is so clean and nice.

[Sam]

And.

[Kelly]

It wasn't, though. I mean, I grew up in that house. It definitely wasn't always like that.

[Liz]

No. Yeah. And just. That also just kind of reminds me, too. Like, we were at, like, Donut Sunday after our church the other day, and I was sitting at a table, and then, like, one of my neighbors, who I'm kind of getting to know, she sat down at a table, and then there was, like, an older woman who sat down at our table, and I was just kind of like, I was talking with this girl, and then the older woman chimed in, and she was like, oh, yeah, I'm a mom to triplets, and this is like, we were talking about motherhood, because, like, I'm thinking I can only connect and relate with the people that are my age. I'm like, oh, this woman not only had triplets and another kid. Not only does she have four kids, but she's been through it. Like, she's on the other side of it now. And I just. It hit me. I don't know what the point of this is, but it just, like, hit me in that moment that sometimes I don't connect, like, older women with being in the same stage as me, because they're not in the same stage as me. They've been through it. And I think that we don't have anything in common because, like, you're not drowning in diapers right now. It's like, well, they had been, and they've seen the other side of it.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

And I just. In that moment, I was like, wow, I wish I would have, like, connected with her more because we do have things to talk about.

[Kelly]

No, that's, like, such a good point. On a deep level also, to bring it up. To bring it up to, like, more the shallow end. I also find it to be so important. Careful taking your recommendations from people who are in the same life as you. Like, even if, like, you just look at, like, I just feel like you see so many, like, Instagrammers and. Or influencers. Or content creators do this. It's like a first time mom. And like, here, like, here's my baby must haves. Which, like, I'm not saying you can't take that from her, but sometimes you gotta, you know, see someone maybe a little bit more experience.

[Liz]

Yeah, okay.

[Kelly]

They really want to be sassy. I'm talking about the car seats. Because it's just like, you have so many people, like, recommend their car seat. I'm like, well, what? Oh, okay. Like, you're like, you're giving a review of the one car seats for your one child. Like, you have nothing to compare it to.

[Liz]

I know. I talked to like one of my friends. They're like, what car seat should I get? Everyone says I should get this one. And I'm like, that's because that's the one that everyone in your life, they haven't tried. I can tell you I've tried that one. And other ones, I'm telling you, don't get that one. Get this one. Like everyone, of course they're going to love. And you should love what you have. It's a $500 seat. $300 seat. Car seats are expensive. Love the one that you had. However. However, you haven't tried multiples.

[Kelly]

Yeah, but that's just been a little snippy. Anyway, I can't stop looking at us like we look so unbelievably professional.

[Liz]

I did mean to put on another shirt. I'm wearing a sweatshirt. But James is obsessed with closing doors right now. Like, he has to slam doors. And he slammed my door so hard that it locked. So when I went to go change. Yeah, it locked like no one was in the room. He wasn't in the room. It somehow locked from the outside. I have no idea. So when I went to go change before this podcast recording, I was like, trying to get this door unlocked. And I eventually did it, but then I forgot to change. So that's why you look so much nicer than I do.

[Kelly]

I got you that sweatshirt. It's so big though.

[Liz]

It's so ginormous. I haven't washed it though, yet.

[Kelly]

No, it's like, I actually don't like it very much. Like, I don't know what I'm gonna do with mine. It's way too big.

[Liz]

It's really comfy. It'll be so good for like, like a postpartum or pregnancy sweatshirt.

[Kelly]

Well, and I think the problem with a lot of my clothes right now is it just hasn't been cold enough to wear them until literally yesterday. And I kind of have a new theory for winter that I'm really excited about and I think it's just like the Midwesterner in me showing. Because I think something that we do in the Midwest, especially if you don't live in a walkable city, we don't wear coats that often. Like, we're kind of chronic for like. Oh. Because like, we're not walking. So we're driving everywhere and then all we do is like, basically freeze our butts off between our car and the store and vice versa. We might throw on a light jacket, but, like, we're not dressing like they do in like, Chicago or like New York for winter because, like, we don't walk anywhere.

[Liz]

Do you find that especially. No, I find that more now that I become a mom because you're just carrying a lot of stuff. So, like, I used to put on my winter coat and I would have gloves and I would have a hat. And before I became a mom, I would bundle up. But now I'm sweating getting everyone in the car, so you don't really need it.

[Kelly]

Sure. So. And I agree with, like, I don't. I don't think I'm. I think I'll still like, freeze my butt up, butt off, like walking in and out of Target. But I'm going to make a more conscious effort to like, bundle and spend more time outside.

[Liz]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kelly]

I'm looking to bundle because I think it's good for my health. I think it's definitely good for my mind. And I think it can actually be very enjoyable to be outside when you're dressed properly. I just don't think I ever dress properly, if I'm being honest with myself.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Because do you remember when we did that thing with ebay motors when we went to. Where were we? Freaking Wyoming. Like, I don't know.

[Liz]

No, we're in Montana. Montana.

[Kelly]

We were in Montana filming with ebay motors for like, this snow tire thing. It was like such a fun trip, kind of. We kind of actually such a horrible trip. We were pregnant. We were. We were like, both. It was horrible. But anyway, we spent. We had to spend the whole day filming outside. But, like, we were dressed and it wasn't that bad.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Like, we were outside in the Snow for like 10 hours at 7 and 6, eight weeks pregnant. Like, kill us. It was horrible. Who's there? But, like, if I can do that, I'm thinking I could handle like 32 degrees in Missouri outside. So I'm going to bundle myself. I'm going to bundle my kids.

[Liz]

Okay.

[Kelly]

And I'm just looking forward to that.

[Liz]

So that's your theory on winter is wearing winter clothes? That's the theory you're excited about?

[Kelly]

Yeah, that is a theory I'm excited about.

[Liz]

Okay, well, we'll see if it happens. Cal. I don't think it will. I think, I think I'm on to something that when you become a mom, you just, you don't care as much. And you just go through it. Like, obviously you're gonna bundle your kids, but like by the time your fourth kid is bundled, you're gonna go find a coat, you're already running 15 minutes late. Like, yeah, you're dreaming.

[Kelly]

Maybe, but I'm. Maybe I'm just saying, like, I guess I think I forget because I'm not doing that with the errands. But like I could take the kids outside on a cold day.

[Liz]

I.

[Kelly]

We just all have to wear coats and hats. I mean, it's groundbreaking stuff. I'm talking about.

[Liz]

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[Kelly]

Huh.

[Liz]

Floral florals and spring florals for spring. Groundbreaking. I was just looking at our Reminders app, trying to think of anything else to talk about so we can get off this topic. We have a. We have a Gen Z work. We have a millennial word of the day where we learn Gen Z slang so we can be less lame. And if you know what I just said, you are an OG cart puller. Because we used to start every episode with a millennial word of the day where we learn Gen Z slang so we can be less lame because our sisters are Gen Z. There was so much slang, and we heard one the other day. Who said it?

[Kelly]

I have no idea.

[Liz]

The word is unk.

[Kelly]

Oh, it had to be Drew.

[Liz]

What. What was the context? Unk. Unk essentially means okay, boomer. It's like boom, like okay, unc, like uncle, like you're a boomer.

[Kelly]

Yeah, that's a good one. Whatever. Unknown. Yeah, the Gen Z's have been quiet. Or we've just not. Or we've just been tuning it out. Hard to say.

[Liz]

I've certainly. Uncle slang for uncle, short for an older male figure, can be used to show effect, affection or respect or humorously call someone out for acting old or out of touch.

[Kelly]

Yeah, that's funny. Wait, hold on. My kids won't stop saying 6, 7, and my kids are. They were in 6, so I don't know what that's all about. I thought it was supposed to be, like, middle, and I didn't. I didn't teach him it. Like, I can't believe you just send your kids to school and then they just. It's so. It's honestly sucks. Just like. And I know it's part of life and, like, you just have to hope you laid a good foundation. But, like, the way that now George has once things have I talked about on the podcast. Like, George really wants Nike shoes. Like, he knows what the heck Nike shoes are. Like, first of all, you're not wearing anything but Kizzix because you don't know how to tie your shoes. And I simply can't. I can't do this right now. Punt that down the field. But now he, like, thinks he wants Nikes because, like, someone in his class is Nikes disgusting.

[Liz]

It's crazy how much influence, like, school and other kids can, will and can have on your kids. It's kind of disgusting, actually.

[Kelly]

Yeah, I'm not really a fan, but I guess it is what it is. That's why you just, I guess, kind of gotta hope you did your best, you know?

[Liz]

Yeah. Well, we went so last night we went to mom's house. Our husbands are on a hunting trip for, like, one night with our dad and our brother. And so we all went to mom's house and had dinner. First of all, your kids were saying six, seven, constantly was so annoying.

[Sam]

Yeah, I know.

[Kelly]

I don't know the best strategy, because they're not allowed for. I think some of the teachers at the school, like, don't care. But then some of the teachers say, they're like, it's a bad word. You can't say it. Which I don't know if I necessarily agree with that, because it's not a bad word. Like, things can be annoying, but that's not a bad word. Yeah, it's annoying. Kids are annoying. I mean, spoiler alert. Kids are annoying.

[Liz]

Yeah, no, it was fine. But so we went to mom's house last night, and when I walked in, mom had a spiked apple cider. Boiling, sizzling.

[Kelly]

Mom coated. Like, of course.

[Liz]

Here's what she did that. She just elevated it. So I have made spike cider, and I do cider and, like, fireball, and I mix it in a pot. Mom had cinnamon sticks. She had a bag of cloves. She had. I don't know what she used to spike it. Some sort of whiskey.

[Kelly]

It was like an apple whiskey, though.

[Liz]

An apple whiskey. And she had it in a beautiful pot simmering on the stove. It made the entire house smell delicious. And then what she did to elevate it even further is she got out her china glasses.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Liz]

And we. The china glasses with a little teacup with a little plate underneath it.

[Kelly]

It's called a saucer.

[Liz]

Oh, a saucer. We had saucers, and we had kids running around everywhere. But the way Kelly and I felt so elevated drinking, I had my little saucer in hand, and we were just sipping the tea, spilling the tea. It was a lovely experience.

[Kelly]

Now the girl doesn't miss. Like, it was such an iconic thing to do. It was so fun. It just. And we were just going over for dinner.

[Liz]

Like, it doesn't even know we. I didn't even know we were having anything to drink. It was just. It was soothing. It didn't even need to be spiked, honestly, like, it was just, like a very soothing drink. Anna made her house smell delicious. So if you're hosting this Thanksgiving.

[Kelly]

Well.

[Liz]

Goes a long way.

[Kelly]

Spike cider is all the fun. It's all the comfort of tea, but it's more fun tea. I drink it for the. The health benefits, I guess. But, like, I find it to be an incredibly boring Beverage?

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Like, if I had a faster metabolism, it would be hot chocolate 10 times out of 10. Like, I don't actually like tea.

[Liz]

Oh, you better believe I'm making the brown broth hot chocolate this week. Not. Or this month. Not too.

[Kelly]

I forgot about that. I forgot about that. I should make that.

[Liz]

Yeah, it was really good.

[Kelly]

I saw the craziest thing today.

[Liz]

What?

[Kelly]

I was driving home from mom's house. So I spent the night at mom's house, and then I had to, like, luckily my kids wake up at 5:15 and mom was already up and made pancakes. The woman's unbelievable.

[Liz]

Wow.

[Kelly]

But then I had to get all my kids dressed and drive to school. Like, we went straight from mom's house to school. And on the way there, I accepted a stop by and there was this girl next to me, like a younger. Like a Gen Z, and she was eating a Pop Tart. What's like, the craziest way you could eat a Pop Tart?

[Liz]

What's the, like, I would say, like, biting the icing off and then eating.

[Kelly]

So, like, you know how Pop Tarts come? Like in a pack of two.

[Liz]

She was eating. She was eating them at the same time.

[Kelly]

At the same time.

[Liz]

That's crazy. That's the craziest way.

[Kelly]

Like, going through two Pop Tarts at one time.

[Liz]

Oh, my gosh. That's insane.

[Kelly]

It was wild. It was a wild thing to witness.

[Liz]

That's way too much. The ratio's thrown off and then you're not. You're speeding through. Like you're not enjoying it.

[Kelly]

Like, my mouth was dry.

[Liz]

Just like watching my mouth is dry thinking about it. Like, it's so much crumb.

[Kelly]

And a crazy thing to do in the car.

[Liz]

She must have be having a rough morning.

[Kelly]

It was brown sugar too.

[Liz]

That's crazy.

[Kelly]

So crazy.

[Liz]

That's a crazy thing.

[Kelly]

I also have a beauty shop where we. A detail shop where I share a recent beauty swap.

[Liz]

Ooh. Okay.

[Kelly]

So do I. I am on to something. And I think you, Ms. Blowout, will appreciate this.

[Liz]

Okay.

[Kelly]

I got sent this in pr Crown Affair dry shampoo. Do you know what that is?

[Liz]

Oh, Crown affair. They sent me something too, but I don't know if I got their dry shampoo.

[Kelly]

It's a powder. It looks like a setting powder, so it's not an aerosol. Like, it is unbelievable. Like my hair, honestly.

[Liz]

So how do you use it?

[Kelly]

So it comes with a little brush and then you, like, put it in your hairline. Like the way that I get excited for my hair to get Dirty. So I can use this. Because my best hair day is actually after I use it. Like, it's not really. It's not a band aid. Like, it is the best. It's a. It's a life changing product.

[Liz]

Okay. I actually think I might have some.

[Kelly]

I actually, I think it's 45. So you're like, woof. But it lasts longer than the aerosol. Aerosol for sure. And I have a lot of hair and I've been using it for two months now. It's. And I still have so much left still. It's so good. It smells great. And so then I put it in my hair and then I like just take a blow dryer and like flip my hair upside down and like, you know, kind of run it through my hair and then it's like, oh, okay. No, I'm perfect. I'm clean. Like, I look unbelievable.

[Liz]

Awesome. So, like, you will be. You would. You would be ordering again.

[Kelly]

I would be ordering again.

[Sam]

Oh, wow.

[Liz]

Okay.

[Kelly]

And it's like so rare for me to say that about a PR product I get sent because I normally don't. I really honestly don't use most of them. I put them in my bin and then I make some killer grade school dinner auction baskets with all of them. But I was out of dry shampoo and I found that one and I'm so happy I tried it because it's unbelievable.

[Liz]

So something that I have also been trying that I had been sent and I'm so happy I was sent it. It's from the brand Talova T A L O V A. I have this face and body balm. I only use it on my face, though. And it is a tallow, which I had been tallow curious but never ordered it because, like, honestly, I could not fathom putting. I just felt like it was gonna smell like beef on my face.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

When I grabbed this stuff, I was. I was out of moisturizer. I was like, oh, perfect. I was sent this. Let me try this. It says it's a balmy. I'm using it for days. It smells incredible. It's very thick. It's like very good for the winter. It's extremely hydrating. Makes my skin look very like dewy almost because it's just so like, like I don't. Greasy is not the word. But I don't know, my face looks dewy after I use it. Anyway, I come to read the back of it and it's tallow.

[Kelly]

Oh, you didn't know it's tallow.

[Liz]

And I didn't know. So I have, I've like ditched my, my moisturizer, my go to moisturizers that I've used for years. Like, it's sitting on my shelf and I'm using this Talova face and body balm and again, have only used it on my or on my face. And I love it.

[Kelly]

Okay. Go off, girl.

[Liz]

Love it.

[Kelly]

That's so exciting. Liz, Liz, Liz.

[Liz]

No, I'm working on something right now. I am doing a lot of different things with my skin care because I'm trying to stay out of my Ugliera despite my hormones trying their best effort to put me in one. And I, I'm not here to. I'm not ready to share yet. But this last cycle I think went pretty well on these, these different things that I'm using the Talova to be one of them. But I will do a full if. If I'm successfully able to stay out of my Ugliera for another month, I will share if.

[Kelly]

You've been mark safe from your Ugliera.

[Liz]

Correct.

[Kelly]

I was also trying to attempt to stay out of it. And I, I'm not a big facial person. I just like facial spa treatments. It's just like, not really my. I don't know who has the time. But I was like, I'm so desperate. So I, I was like, oh, I'll go get a hydrafacial. It was not a good experience. The thing is, I don't enjoy a med spa because a med spa, it's heavy on the med. It's light on the spa. So like, I go, I'm booking a hydrafacial. I'm thinking it's a relaxing facial. She didn't even dim the lights in the room. Like, it was horrible. Like, I laid on basically like, like a, like a doctor table with, with an overhead light on. And she. There wasn't a warm towel. There wasn't a little neck massage. There wasn't a head scratch. There was nothing. She just took this thing on my face for 40 minutes. It was cold. And then she charged me 150. I'm like, that sucked.

[Liz]

Yeah. Med spa's like, okay. A med spa, sure. If, like, I'm gonna be there for like 10 minutes or so and like, you're gonna be doing something like, very. There's just no, there's no way. There's no reason you can't marry the two.

[Kelly]

Like, that's what I'm saying. I'm not expecting for like a Botox treatment or like, whatever. I get why the med spas exist. But there was no reason a hot towel couldn't have been introduced. Totally do, you know, like, it was. And I guess, like, that's what hydrafacials are. I didn't know that. I just. I guess I've only ever had, like, the few times I've had facials in my life. It's been more of a relaxing experience. Like, there was an essential oil involved. It was just this hose on my face going. It was horrible. It wasn't relaxing.

[Liz]

Did your skin look good after?

[Kelly]

Well, it's like. And now I'm kind of breaking out. And she's like, well, sometimes it brings it all to the Starfest. And I'm like, well, then take it out.

[Liz]

Like, it all sounds like you didn't finish the job.

[Kelly]

I do think it's a little bit more glowy. Yeah.

[Liz]

Yeah. You look nice.

[Kelly]

Yeah. But like, it was not. I wouldn't do it again. I didn't enjoy it in the slightest. I was. I was just really. I guess that was my fault.

[Liz]

Disappointing.

[Kelly]

So disappointing.

[Liz]

Okay, well, we actually have an advice question that I wanted to get to.

[Kelly]

Okay.

[Liz]

And if you want to write in to get your own advice, you can do so by writing into hello atthekarma official.com and hold on, I have to find it. Where to go. Here it is. Okay. Advice. Becoming a truck moment.

[Kelly]

Cute.

[Liz]

Hi, Kelly and Liz. I'm a mom of three boys, 6, 4 and 2. And we're done having kids. Hopefully. LOL. I drive a 2012 Honda CRV that can't transport all three kids at one time. We also have a 2022 Toyota Sienna. We've always said our next car will be electric. We always buy our cars and use and pay cash. We're thinking of getting a Ford Lightning. Are we crazy for wanting to buy electric? We love the idea of a truck and also having to be extremely economical considering it's an electric car. I heard a rumor that for possibly stopping the electric F150 lightning. So should that be a concern to us at all? What would other alternatives be? I'm not crazy about the Rivian truck and not sure I could do three across anyway.

[Kelly]

Oh, that's so interesting.

[Liz]

We one time had a mom talk about or write in or something about how she is a light Ford Lightning mom and she like literally like wrote an email and it almost. I mean, I could never have one because I. I can't have that car. But like, I would love to have an electric truck. Like, I think it's a great idea.

[Kelly]

So I remember that mom. That was a great email. First of all, I love trucks as mom cars. Like, they're 100 slept on. I honestly, like, need to be ramping up the content on them because they check so many boxes like, they're. They're excellent cars. Excellent. Excellent for families. So spacious, so wide. They're great. I have heard similar rumors about the F150 Lightning, so I don't think that would necessarily be a concern for me. I think it's. I think enough were sold and they were around for long enough. I also don't think they'll. I don't see a world where they totally cancel it, but I do see one where they definitely slow down the production.

[Liz]

She also, like, she says her current car is a 2012. So it also does kind of sound like they are the type that will drive a car for. For a long time. So, I mean, you could be. You could make that concern about, like, any car, really. Totally.

[Kelly]

Yeah, you're right. So no, I. It will be interesting to see what Ford does with the Lightning. I don't know. I stand by the fact that I found it to be a very interesting decision by all these automakers to try to break into the EV truck market instead of other EV markets first. Like, that. I don't think any of us were. I mean, I feel like I've been talking about that for. Since it happened. But, like, it is so interesting how we don't have, like, electric. I guess we have the buzz, but like, we don't have like, electric minivans or like, SUVs, but they're like, let's do the trucks. And then like, everyone did the trucks.

[Liz]

Kind of crazy.

[Kelly]

Yeah, that is crazy, but that's actually a really good segue.

[Liz]

No, you. I don't feel like you've answered. So did she. Are there any alternatives outside of the Lightning if she wants an electric truck?

[Kelly]

Oh, no, I don't think so. Okay. I mean, the Silverado Eevee, but like, that's even like, I. I mean, the Silverado EV is nice, but the Silverado EV is nice and I guess.

[Liz]

What's that been out for? Because she said she wants to buy used and I'm not sure you have a harder. Oh, has it?

[Kelly]

Okay. Yeah, I think it's been out since 22 maybe. I mean, G. GM's EV sales are pretty good. I don't know how good the.

[Liz]

The.

[Kelly]

The Silverado is. I also don't really like the looks of the Silverado as much. I would. I'd go for an F150 lighting. That's what I would do.

[Liz]

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[Sam]

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[Kelly]

Okay, but that's a good segue to our industry news, where I spill the hot tea going on in the auto industry. Well, first, the hottest tea is that the car mom is doing a warehouse sale. Ooh. Ooh. I'm probably gonna turn it off today, so make haste.

[Liz]

So here's the thing with the warehouse sale. Everything is on mega, like, 50% off discount. We also have our pre order open still.

[Kelly]

Yeah, our pre order is open for the never say never and fueled by coffee shirts. And kind of our reasoning for this was like, we want you to try to get. We. We can. We free shipping at 75. So we're like, let's get people. Like, so buy the shirt, pre order the shirt, and then just get yourself to the 75. Buy a cleaner, buy magnets, buy some dis. Some discontinued merch that's on the site. Like, there's honestly a lot of stuff on the website right now. And like I said, it's like if we.

[Liz]

It's on like such a discount that, like, if we didn't do that, that free shipping threshold, like, we would literally be paying you to buy this stuff. So it's like we would be like losing money.

[Kelly]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I think we're definitely in the red on some of these things, but that's okay. For sure. That's okay.

[Liz]

But if you do the pre order, so let's say you order a shirt and then you also order a magnet. Like, your whole order will ship together. So it's not like the magnets are going to ship and then the shirt's going to ship. So just know that.

[Kelly]

Just know that. And if you don't want to pre order shirt, you can just stock up on all of the other glorious things to buy. But yeah, we're moving things out, so make haste.

[Liz]

Okay.

[Kelly]

Okay. Our next story is I shared this on my Instagram, but I kind of wanted to get your thoughts on it. And then I wanted to do another fun exercise. It's the top, top 10 best selling cars in the U.S. did you see this?

[Liz]

A little bit. I saw a little bit.

[Kelly]

So I thought it would be fun to Compare the top 10 bestselling cars in 2025 to the top 10 best selling cars of 2015.

[Liz]

Ooh, very fun, Very fun, Very fun.

[Kelly]

Where Were you in 2015?

[Liz]

Where was I in 2015? I was in college, actually, beginning of 2015, beginning of my first semester, I was, let's see, as a junior in college, my first semester, I studied in la. So my school, my major was television arts. And the reason I went to my school, Bradley Shout Out, Peoria, Illinois, is because they offered a television arts degree where you could study in Hollywood for a semester to see if you liked LA before you, like, commit. And spoiler alert. I absolutely hated it. Sorry. If you live in la. Hated it. I hated the entertainment industry. And I said, no, thank you. So anyway, that's where I was.

[Kelly]

I was.

[Liz]

I was living my life in la.

[Kelly]

I came and visited you.

[Liz]

You know what's so annoying about when I went to LA, though, is I wasn't 21. I remember skating around, though, didn't stop me entirely. But it did stop me at some point. I just think I could have had more fun if I was. Yeah. What were you doing in 2015?

[Kelly]

Well, I was visiting you in LA. I mean, I was a senior majoring in equestrian science. So I would say, I mean, I had no idea where my life was going.

[Liz]

Yeah, I was actually. I was actually on a better trajectory for this career path than you were.

[Kelly]

Okay, now let's talk about cars.

[Liz]

Oh, yeah.

[Kelly]

So for 2025, the number one was the Ford F series with 597,000 units. Now compare that to 2015. They sold 780,000 units.

[Liz]

Oh, that was still the top car.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Oh, yeah.

[Kelly]

Number two of 2025 is the Chevy Silverado, which was also the same in 2015.

[Liz]

That's fascinating.

[Kelly]

Now this is crazy. Number three was the Ram pickup. In 2015, Ram pickup got moved down to number five. This is confusing. Am I doing this right? Are you following?

[Liz]

I'm following.

[Kelly]

Okay, so in 2015, the Ram pickup was number three. In 2025, number three was the Toyota RAV4, and the Ram moved down to number five.

[Liz]

Now, I've seen the trucks.

[Kelly]

Trucks. Trucks are always high on the list. 1. Because a lot gets sold for fleet cars is kind of like the main.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

Because this is only new cars, you know, it's not like, a reflection of, like, all the cars that were sold. So anyway. But the RAV4 being number three was exciting because the RAV4 was not on. Was number 10. Was number 10 on the 2015 list.

[Liz]

Okay, let's just do the top five, because this is gonna get really exhausting if you do all of them.

[Sam]

Okay.

[Kelly]

The Honda CRV was number 20. Yeah. I'm, like, having, like. I can't do this. It's so hard to go back and forth. Let's just.

[Sam]

You know what?

[Kelly]

Forget 2015. Number four for 25 was the Honda CRV, and number five was the Ram pickup.

[Liz]

Okay. What was. Okay, now you can go. If you're just gonna do 25, you can do all of them.

[Kelly]

Number six is the Sierra. Number seven is the Camry. Number eight is the Model Y. Number nine is the Tacoma. And number ten was the Equinox. My biggest shock to see on the list was the Equinox. But I'm proud of the Equinox.

[Liz]

I am proud of the Equinox.

[Kelly]

But it's crazy because, like, the Nissan Altima was on the 2015 list. It's not on there. The Accord. That's not on there. The Corolla's not on there.

[Liz]

The sedans are moving off the list.

[Kelly]

Well, they're the sedans moving off the list. The only sedan on this list is the Camry.

[Liz]

Yeah. People just are not into the sedans as of late.

[Kelly]

And the Tesla model Y is the only electric car. True. Yeah. So that's industry news, where I confuse everyone by trying to go back and forth between two lists.

[Liz]

You know what I saw? Someone sent me for industry news. There is a. A fleet of police cars in Vegas, and their cars were all just replaced with cyber trucks.

[Kelly]

Oh, I think that's a good idea.

[Liz]

I think it's a good idea, too.

[Kelly]

It looks like.

[Liz]

I mean, that if that came barreling at me, like, that's scary. Like, the cybertruck is the scariest car in my opinion, and I think it's a great cop car.

[Kelly]

I support the cybertruck being a police car. It's interesting how, like, I'm gonna be. I can't wait for 10 years to pass and then for me to do research on, like, cyber trucks because. Are you watching Chad Powers?

[Liz]

I'm still working on desperate house 5. I'm a slow burn.

[Kelly]

Well, there's this show, Chad Powers. It's so Funny. It's like, it's a great show to watch, like, with your husband. Because I was like, it's football, but, you know, it's not. Anyway, but it's Glenn Pal. He's actually. He doesn't really do it for me. I don't find him that attractive. Is that crazy?

[Liz]

Oh, I mean, I don't know. I don't know in the context of Chad Powers, if he's.

[Kelly]

No. Like, I never have. He's just never really done it for me.

[Liz]

Oh, interesting.

[Kelly]

Yeah, it is kind of interesting. Which. Don't you think he kind of looks like Tyler and like a very.

[Liz]

Like. I. I didn't want to say, like, there is a similarity there.

[Kelly]

Yeah. Like, what is that?

[Liz]

Who is your celebrity crush? Like, what. Who's your celebrity male crush? I want to see if you have a type.

[Kelly]

I know, I don't really know. Yeah, I think he kind of looks like Tyler.

[Liz]

Like, honestly, like.

[Kelly]

But Tyler does do it for me. Obviously. Tyler does do it for me. Like, I don't know. There's something about Glen Powell maybe. I just don't like, Like, I think it's something with his jaw. It's a little wide.

[Liz]

Not.

[Kelly]

Who's your celebrity crush? I don't feel comfortable.

[Liz]

You don't feel comfortable answering.

[Kelly]

Oh, the truck, dad.

[Liz]

That's your. That's your celebrity crush?

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

I'm not really in into celebrities. I think I. I think we all made our statements very clear on. Oh, my gosh. Who. Who's the sexiest man of life?

[Kelly]

Oh, Jonathan Bailey.

[Liz]

Jonathan Bailey. Yeah.

[Kelly]

I would say, like, Anthony Bridgerton is kind of like up there for me. Yeah, I think he's up there for all of us. Back to cybertrucks, Cyber trucks. So in this show, Chad Powers, this guy's like, he's just like. He's a. What's like the PG word for this? He's a loser. He's like, He's a. A D bag. Can I say that? Like, he's just like, sure, okay. Like. Like that. Like, that's what he is. Like, he's got an earring and he like, is this washed up football player. Like, he deadbeat. He's a dead. Nah, I don't know you. Anyway, he drives a cyber. He drives a cyber truck. And like, it's just funny. Like, that's like, that's the lore. And like, that's. That's what makes him such, like a loser. And like, he's driving a loser car. He's driving a cybertruck. Like, it's just funny.

[Liz]

Interesting. Okay. Interesting.

[Kelly]

The cybertruck has been, like, coined as, like, the car that those kind of people drive.

[Liz]

Okay.

[Kelly]

You know what I mean?

[Liz]

Sure. I didn't know that. But that was where the cybertruck was. The reputation the cybertruck was getting. But that's.

[Kelly]

Well. And like, no, until the cybertruck has, like, a really big role in this movie. Like, it's constant. They're constantly talking about it. Like, it's constantly coming up and it's so losery. Like, it's such bad. I'm telling Tyler. I'm like, this is like the worst PR possible for the cyber.

[Liz]

Bummer.

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Bummer.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Okay, Kel, are you ready for ditch the drive thru where we give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner rut?

[Kelly]

Yeah.

[Liz]

Okay, well, I'm going to share an oldie but a goodie. Something that's on my list this week to make, and it's one of my husband's favorite meals, and that is a pesto chicken pasta. You're always.

[Kelly]

It's always pest and it's always coming up. Pesto chicken pasta at the St. John's.

[Liz]

Well, Maddie really likes it.

[Kelly]

It is your spaghetti. It is your spaghetti and meatballs.

[Liz]

No, I make spaghetti and meatballs actually quite a bit. But Maddie doesn't like, really. He doesn't really care for marinara. So I try and mix it up on my pastas. And anyway, here's how you make it because I do something a little bit different. Bow tie noodles essential.

[Kelly]

Yeah, Bow tie and pesto go good.

[Liz]

Make your chicken however you want to make it. I make it in the pan. The sauce, the pesto sauces. I just do like a green like pesto from the store. Put a couple of dollops of that in your cooked pasta. A little bit of heavy cream, fresh parm. Mix it, mix it, mix it. While I'm doing that, salt and pepper, like, whatever, season it. I'm making brussels sprouts to get a little bit extra veggie. I add my baked brussels sprouts. Your face looks so disgusted right now. I don't know. Why were you making this face? I have no idea. You're like.

[Kelly]

Don'T clip that, don't clip that. Cuz that was the face.

[Liz]

I'm clipping it. I was. Now see the face you just made. No, it sounds really good. I haven't gotten to the razzle dazzle part yet.

[Kelly]

I know what it is. You add balsamic. I've had it before.

[Liz]

You just ruined my. Ditch the drive thru. Thank you. So then you freaking. You make, you make stupid Brussels sprouts. You cut them out, you put them in, and then you drizzle with like balsamic glaze. Like, whatever. Enjoy.

[Kelly]

Yummo.

[Liz]

Do you want to share something?

[Kelly]

No, it sounds good. You should double it and you should bring it to lunch on Wednesday at the dealership.

[Liz]

Stop trying to make up for it.

[Kelly]

I'm so shook about that, Kelly.

[Liz]

That was so rude. Anyway, it's delicious now that we're being recorded and I don't even know how.

[Kelly]

To clip, so this is so unfair because you're going to be the master of the clips.

[Liz]

I am in full control.

[Kelly]

I'm gonna do something crazy tonight.

[Liz]

What?

[Kelly]

I. So I had, I had a butcher box and I honestly, you know, like, I love butcherbox. I love having meat in the freezer. Anyway, they sent me, but I only do chicken and seafood because we have beef and pork. And they sent, they had party wings and it was just like chicken wings, like three packs of chicken wings. And I'm like, I gotta, I gotta cook these. Like, these have just been, you know, you're always like waiting for a time you're gonna use it. But I've also never made wings before. So, like, I'm not gonna make wings and then invite people over to watch the football game. Like, I, I need to trial run it with just my family. Of course. So I'm gonna make these wings and I'm a nervous wreck about it. I'm a nervous wreck now.

[Liz]

We tried making wings once before and they were super gummy and gross.

[Kelly]

Yeah, I know. So I fear I might need to deep fry them. But, like, I just can't be deep frying wings on like a weekday. Like, I gotta. Surely they can be made in the oven.

[Liz]

I think so maybe it's just like high temp.

[Kelly]

High temp. And what I also read is, you know, like cookie racks, you put those on there so that they don't touch. So they're not touching the bottom of the pan. So like air, hot air is going all around them. I'm a wreck. I'm. I'm honestly like, I have no idea how this is gonna shake out.

[Liz]

Yeah. But okay, well, keep us posted.

[Kelly]

But like, if I could. If you could make chicken wing, I.

[Liz]

Know it'd be huge.

[Kelly]

It's impressive. I also was looking up some recipes for grilling. I don't know if I have a grill the grill in me tonight though. Yeah, I want an oven Baked chicken wings. And I think my kids would think that was so fun if I, like, made chicken wings. And I have B Dubs. Garlic parmesan sauce.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

And I have barbecue sauce. I could do, like, barbecue and garlic parmesan wings tonight for dinner for when Tyler gets home from his hunting trip. Like, then he could love me so much. Yeah.

[Liz]

Wouldn't that be nice?

[Kelly]

I'll serve him gummy chicken.

[Sam]

And then.

[Liz]

He won't love you. Yeah, no, there's a lot writing on it. I would maybe have, like, a backup, like, flatbreads. I don't think flatbreads and wings kind of go together.

[Kelly]

I can't. I don't. Can't do both, Woods. I have to give it my whole. All of my attention.

[Sam]

Oh, okay.

[Liz]

It just feels like you could have, like, flat butt ingredients on here.

[Kelly]

Well, that would require me to go to the grocery store. I don't want to go to the grocery store.

[Liz]

Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Well, best of luck. Sounds like a lot's riding on it.

[Kelly]

A lot's riding on. We have such a busy day with work. I just think I'm not gonna be able to commit to the bit till around 3pm I'm gonna have all my kids at home.

[Liz]

Totally.

[Kelly]

Well, anyway, guys, thanks for listening to the carpal podcast.

[Liz]

That's our episode.

[Kelly]

This was.

[Liz]

Thanks for listening.

[Kelly]

We. Hold on. Before we go.

[Liz]

What?

[Kelly]

Let's do our DWTS predictions.

[Sam]

Oh.

[Liz]

I. It's always if it's not Andy, because it should be Andy, but if Andy's gonna somehow make it through for another, which I'm so sick of, I want to fast forward through his performances. I don't get it. If anyone else goes home before him, I'm gonna be genuinely pissed off now.

[Kelly]

I think he's gonna go home. I do. I think he's gonna go home. Here's what I'll say. If he stays and Dylan goes home or even if Whitney goes home, I will continue to watch the show. If Elaine gets sent home and Andy stays, mark my words, I will be done with. I will be done with the franchise, and they will. They will lose me as a watcher the same season they gained me. I'll be done. Done.

[Liz]

It would be absolute B.S. because, like, he is only five years older than her, and he is literally treated like a child, and they're, like, kind of harsh on her, and it's like she just did a freaking backflip, and she just had. She was just in the hospital, and this guy can't even move his legs. And you're like, this is what.

[Sam]

You're.

[Liz]

What dance is all about. It's like, no, actually, he's not what dance is all about.

[Kelly]

We're actually just not. And, like, I'm sorry. I'm here for a competition.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kelly]

No, so, like, that's where I'm at. If. If it's. I mean, of course, like, if it's Dylan, I'll be thrilled. If it's Whitney, I'll think that's unfair. But she's not my winner. I fear people are saying, elaine, I will riot.

[Liz]

Yeah, I mean, Elaine, we just never know because, like, we. We had no idea that she was gonna end up being in the hospital during that one. So, like, I just, like, don't know where her body physically is at. Like, even in her injured state, she's still light years better than Annie, So it would be absolute bs. I love her, too, and I do think people love her.

[Kelly]

Yeah, well, we'll find out.

[Liz]

I think she's more popular than Dylan, but we will find out, and we will do a recap on our Friday episode. So in the moment, we're in the dark, so we'll see.

[Kelly]

All right, guys, so thanks for listening to the carpool podcast, and we will talk to you next time. We'll love ya.

[Liz]

Bye.

[Kelly]

Thank you for listening to the Carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz. Make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode. And if you enjoyed riding with us, tell everybody you know, there's room in the car for everyone. Sam.