A (1:58)

It's coming along and, and I appreciate everyone bearing with us and the clips. I'm enjoying clipping. I think it's fun.

B (2:06)

I enjoy a clip too. I don't know if we'll ever, like, put the full podcast on YouTube be, but I mean, unless like, a lot of you guys Want that, but it is giving extra steps. So if it's like huge demand, we'll consider it. But I think it's just like fun to at least have a little bit of context. And you can always ask, like to see things like if there's something that you need to see clipped.

A (2:25)

Yeah.

B (2:25)

You can ask Elizabeth clip it. She'll clip it. Like if I make an ugly face again, you'll clip it.

A (2:31)

That was so funny.

B (2:32)

Have to be constantly watching myself. Well, happy Friday, everybody.

A (2:37)

Happy Black Friday.

B (2:39)

We told you we weren't going to leave you. This Black Friday, you're coming off your Thanksgiving, which I hope was everything and more. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you had lots of turkey, lots of pie. I hope the lions won because I'm listening to this or recording this the day before Thanksgiving. So I don't know what who I will be on Friday. But yeah, we wanted to get this episode out. We have been transacting. So we're gonna do last three transactions. We're gonna catch up. I actually have a lot of industry news that we just didn't have time to get to on Wednesday's episode because we had Marika as a guest. But there was like some crazy things that were happening at the LA Auto show, so that's something to talk about. And Dancing with the Stars, we have Dancing with the Stars recap. So like, just to kind of buckle up for just like it's a bit of an all over the place episode, but it's an episode nonetheless. And. Yeah.

A (3:31)

Okay. Well, I just want to get started with something that I have been like wanting to talk to you about.

B (3:36)

Okay.

A (3:37)

I'd even talk to you about this offline.

B (3:39)

Yeah. But it's like, I think I just like went over our agenda. But sure, let's throw a wrench in it.

A (3:43)

I. Well, if this feels like general, like banter, sure. I joined a new gym recently. I joined a new one because the one I was going to was too far away from my house and I just wasn't going. So this new one opened up. It's like five minutes from my house. Perfect, let's do it. And it's, it's, it's, it's affordable, but it's, it is like a bare bones gym. Like there's no child care, there's one shower in the locker room and it's kind of like a powerlifting gym. A lot of meatheads, you know, a lot of those, those types, which I actually prefer those types of gyms because I do find versus like, like a Planet Fitness or like a general, like, gym like that. Because I have found when I would work out at places like Planet Fitness, I would get a lot more creepy stairs, a power lifter's gym. There no one's looking at you. They're all looking at themselves in the mirror. So I do like that. But there are some things with a powerlifting gym that you kind of have to look past. So I'm going to run a couple scenarios by you and I just want to see like on a scale of 1 to 10, one being doesn't bother me at all. 10 being cancel my membership. How, how, how willing you would be to put up with these things that you get in a powerlifting type gym.

B (5:02)

Okay, so number. I don't know what a powerlifting gym is. It's not, not CrossFit.

A (5:09)

No, it's not.

B (5:09)

It's.

A (5:10)

It's a regular gym, but like there's a small cardio section. It's for just like the really intense, like fitness body bodybuilders. That's more what I'm looking for. Bodybuilders, sure, sure. Like anyone can join, obviously. But there you walk in and like, you know, you know the type of place it attracts a certain type.

B (5:33)

So.

A (5:36)

Number one, where do you land on people filming themselves carrying the tripod with them, filming every part of their workout, sometimes bringing a light and shining it on them?

B (5:49)

Where do you think I land on that?

A (5:51)

I think you're fine with it.

B (5:53)

I appreciate the hustle. Yeah, it's not as easy as it looks.

A (5:56)

No, it's not as easy as.

B (5:58)

Yeah, I'm totally mean. I've done it in Target. I've done it at, I've done it in insane places. I've brought my tripod in light. So, yeah, I have.

A (6:06)

No, I didn't think that one would bother you very much. Only reason it slightly bothers me is because I'm like, okay, well, I have to get to that weight. And I don't know if I'm going to walk into your shot and I'm not trying to ruin your shot, but also, like, it's public space.

B (6:22)

I think you should be as respectful as you can.

A (6:25)

And I am. And I am.

B (6:26)

Yeah, I'm fine with that.

A (6:27)

Okay, number two. Grunting, moaning, borderline screaming when you are lifting and then you like, release it and then it like the, the weights fall and you're like. And moans.

B (6:42)

Yeah, yeah, that one's tough. That one is tough. I feel like if it got bad enough, I would leave mid workout. I Don't like that.

A (6:53)

Okay, so scale of one to ten. Like, one doesn't bother me. Ten. I'm quitting this gym.

B (6:58)

I'll give it a six. It's definitely more than five.

A (7:02)

Okay.

B (7:03)

If. If it's the kinds of moans and grunts I'm thinking of, I just don't need that in my life.

A (7:07)

And it is. It's startling.

B (7:10)

Yeah.

A (7:13)

And all of these things, mind you, happen every single time. Every single time I go to this gym.

B (7:19)

Okay.

A (7:20)

Men working out without a shirt on, tarps off.

B (7:29)

Well, this is. You're putting me in an awkward position. I don't.

A (7:33)

It.

B (7:33)

It. I'm okay with it. That's fine. I wouldn't leave the gym to me. It's giving. Swimming pool. Yeah, sure. If it's a power lifting gym, I'd imagine I. I mean, it's. I would imagine it's not the worst. The worst thing to see.

A (7:54)

Yeah, I. I do feel uncomfortable, though, sometimes if I accidentally, like, look in their direction, I don't want them to think that I'm looking at them. So then I. I'm feeling, like, kind of uncomfortable.

B (8:03)

No, it does actually. I'm gonna take it back. Cause it does feel like no shoes, no shirt, no service. Right. If I actually go back to just, like, basic decency, it does feel like you should keep your shirt on.

A (8:15)

Well, put a. Put a tank on. Like, if you're so sweating so much, like, you can't stand to have a shirt on, like, put a tank top on.

B (8:22)

Yeah, I. I'm gonna. I'm gonna come back on now. What I don't like is one time I've been to a gym. I don't like when they take their shoes off. That's crazy.

A (8:29)

Well, so that was gonna be my last one is a lot of times people, like, walk around in, like, Crocs or slippers, and then when they're doing certain workouts, they, like, click their. Click, kick their slippers off and do a move with just socks on.

B (8:45)

Okay. If they have socks, I'm okay.

A (8:48)

Okay. As long as you've not seen bare feet. I haven't seen.

B (8:50)

Yeah. If you're seeing toes, you need to get out of there. You're saying toes, you've gotta bounce.

A (8:55)

No, I was.

B (8:56)

Yeah. I think you should look for a new gym. If you want my honest opinion. I don't think, like, it doesn't sound like. It sounds like a. A super average experience. It sounds like if you lived in a small town and that was your gym, you deal with. Deal with It. It's not worth not working out. But you have. You live in a great populated area with plenty of gyms. They'd be lucky to have you.

A (9:22)

You would think. There aren't many gyms in my vicinity. There aren't as many as you would think. And this one's literally five minutes from my house, so I have no excuse, even if it's just like to go get a 30 minute workout. And it's open 24 hours, so Maddie likes to work out, like, after everyone's gone to bed. So I do think I'm stuck there. But I just was like, I was just curious, like, your opinions on it. It just like cracks me up every single time I go and it's just like the videotaping. I'm fine with whatever. I respect the hustle. It's the tarps off that, like, really.

B (9:57)

Yeah.

A (9:57)

Pisses me off.

B (9:59)

Yeah, I know. The more I've thought about that, I really regret what I said. Also, it's if they're doing any of these things in combination because, like, if the shirt's off and you're grunting, I'm sorry, this is a not safer work. Like, then simply like, you've got to get out of there.

A (10:11)

Oh, and you can bet your bottom dollar, if the tarp is off, the camera is on.

B (10:17)

Right. So then it's a triple threat. So then they're filming themselves grunting, shirtless. And I don't think you need to be associated with those kinds of people because that's a whole other thing.

A (10:25)

Totally. I. There was this one guy who was filming with a, like a legitimate camera. I was almost like, hey, I kind of need to know what camera this is because, like, we're trying to up our podcast recording on one side of the gym, his light on the other. This is probably like a 20ft, 20 foot span. Like, he's taking up a lot of real estate to film himself in this one little section. And I'm like, trying to, like, sneak behind his camera, but the guy's 20ft away from me and I'm trying to respect his camera, but, like, you're kind of taking up too much real estate.

B (10:58)

I don't know, Liz. This is kind of crazy. I don't think. I think, I think you find a new gym.

A (11:03)

I'm not going to.

B (11:06)

Well, I worked out of my basement today. It was so funny. I was listening to our podcast on Wednesday about how I was, like, feeling so much better. And then yesterday I literally had like, the worst. I had, like such a. I had A horrible day. Mentally cortisol. Like, worse. Like, worse. Spike I've had. So that was humbling. Then to listen back to, like, I'm fine. I'm getting better. And then the next day it was not fine, but today I am fine. So it's just so fun and exhausting. You know what I mean? But I will say it's. I appreciate the people who have reached out, told me they're going. They've gone through similar things. People are happy that I've opened up about it. I guess I just, like, I don't feel. I'm not one to be. I don't want to be this, like, mental health advocate because I don't think I have that experience. So that's why I think I was, like, hesitant to talk about it, but. Oh, and then I got a hate mess. A couple of hate messages for getting someone to decorate my Christmas tree. I'm gonna talk about that for a second.

A (12:05)

Yeah, let's do it.

B (12:07)

Okay. I think I said this on the podcast last year. I don't like to decorate my Christmas tree. I don't like to wrap presents. And first of all, call me the Grinch who sold Christmas. Call me whatever you want. I'm a great mom. I love to do fun things with my kids. I don't like to do those things with my kids. So I was like, I'm going to outsource those things. We had a whole summer, whole series side hustle summer of moms who are good at things, who are looking to make a little extra money, do something that they love and help out other moms. And I'm like, I'm gonna do this this year. Like, this. I don't even like to call it, like, giving back, because I paid them for their work. But I was like, I'm going to do this because these are areas of my life I could. I don't want to do them, and I have the means to outsource them. So that's what I'm going to do. The. The comment I reposted was, like, the nicer of the comments that I got really dragging me, not people like a 4, like, sending me, like, crazy messages. And I'm like, okay, I am sorry that, like, you. Like, I don't know if it was other. Like, I don't know. I thought it was just. I don't even want to get into it. I guess I don't even know why I brought it up. But just also say, like, God is great. Beer is good, and people are crazy. And that's what I have to say here.

A (13:20)

Her message was, you couldn't decorate your own Christmas tree. And let me tell you, based off of how gorgeous drop dead gorgeous your Christmas tree looks, I can tell everyone firsthand, no. Kelly could not have decorated her own Christmas tree like that. No, it was gorgeous. You paid her for her services. This wasn't like a do it for free.

B (13:41)

She was so grateful for the shout out. Like, I was. Whatever.

A (13:45)

Girls running a business, guys.

B (13:47)

Yeah, that was kind of crazy. I don't know where I was going with that. Oh, it just. Just know this about me. Like, if you ever do send me a hate message, I. Chances are I won't see it, because I don't. I don't really read a lot of my DMs as much as I used to anymore. But one thing about me is I will respond back with a voice memoir. So just know you will get a voice memo from me. And I expect a voice memo back. But, like, you're gonna hear my voice, and I want you to read your message to me with your voice. Mm. It's intimidating. So this girl who sent me the message, I looked up at our previous messages and, like, I'd never seen them before. Every message she sent me was, like, something mean. So I sent her a voice memo, and I'm like, hey, I think maybe you should unfollow me. Like, I'm not gonna block you, but I don't think I'm bringing joy to your life. You seem really triggered and upset by a lot of things that I'm posting. I think it might just be better for you if you went ahead and unfollowed me. Saw the message, listen to the voice memo. Didn't. Didn't unfollow me. Didn't respond.

A (14:42)

That's honestly so savage of you.

B (14:46)

Yeah, so I will send a voice memo. And also, I'm. I it now. That message wasn't that mean. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't, like, post that. But. But you best believe if I ever get a message and if it comes across my desk and I'm in a mood and it's mean and it's attacking and it's bullying, you will get screenshotted, and I will not block out your name. I'm not living in this. I'm not living in this world. I'll not even tag you. I'm not living in this world to.

A (15:12)

Own up to your words.

B (15:13)

The. The lack of accountability that people have online, it's so not okay. And I'm not Going to be part of that. I'm not part of that narrative. I think more people should do that. Like, I think you should let people see. Like, say it with your chest. Like, if you wouldn't. Like, if you wouldn't say it to my.

A (15:29)

Like.

B (15:30)

Okay, so just proceed with caution. Just so you know. So you know. And I will be cordial in my voice memo and you can voice memo me back and you can explain your positioning and we can have a delightful conversation because I think we would probably agree on a lot. So anyway, thank you, Julie, for coming to decorate my Christmas tree. It looks amazing. I'm still looking for someone to come wrap my presents. So if someone would like to come.

A (15:51)

Wrap my presence, and if anyone has anything to say about that, proceed with caution.

B (15:57)

They can't wrap around presents. I don't know. Can you install your own car seats? Oh.

A (16:01)

Oh, just said that. Yeah.

B (16:04)

Yeah, that was a dig.

A (16:06)

That was a dig.

B (16:07)

Sorry. My lighting's making me feel more confident. Okay, are you ready for Dancing with the Stars last three transactions? Industry news. Let's do last three transactions.

A (16:16)

Because not everyone likes to talk about Dancing with the Stars, and I have a lot to say.

B (16:19)

Well, they're wrong for that because I have so much to say about Dancing.

A (16:21)

With the Stars last three transactions. Here's the thing with Black Friday, I for the first time and feeling like I'm actually getting all my Christmas shopping done on Black Friday, I feel like we see so many. Like, we see, like, Prime. Like, prime sometimes has deals, but, like, the deals are dealing this Black Friday. Like, I'm getting everything cheaper. Did you see Nugget is coming out with a discount?

B (16:43)

I saw this in the carpool Facebook page. I shook to my core. Shook it to my core.

A (16:47)

Never has a discount.

B (16:49)

It's like. And here's kind of my problem with these things. I want some of these sales to happen not on Black Friday because, like, my budget's kind of spent on gifts and I'm exhausted. Yeah, there's things that I would have liked to have bought for myself, but, like, I cannot do that because it's like I just bought all these gifts instead. But I will say I'm here for Cyber Week. I'm here for the whole week. I feel like I'm taking my time. I'm cuddling up with a cup of coffee on the couch in the. In, in the mornings or in the evenings with some tea, maybe a glass of wine, and I'm just, like, taking my time sifting through the deals and the sales. I'M having fun with it. I. I'm making. I'm not as impulsy. You know, I have. I. To me, this has been a 10 out of 10 Black Friday situation.

A (17:35)

And I agree.

B (17:35)

The deals are good. I thought the last prime day the deals were wa wa wa. These deals are good on Amazon and otherwise. Very impressed. Yeah, very impressed.

A (17:44)

Me too. Me too. I've been getting it done over here. So let's talk about some of our recent transactions. So now it's time for last three transactions where you share reason based attractions. I'll let you start.

B (17:56)

I'll kick it off. So I, first of all, I had an anthropology code, which was like so exciting to have like my name and anthropology's name in the same sentence. Yeah, like, that was really fun. I think it's probably because I'm friends with Merrick. I think she maybe like hooked that up for me because, you know, they've never wanted to work with me. And then all of a sudden I'm getting a 30% off discount code. Like, okay, friends in high places. And I didn't realize I didn't need any clothes, but I wanted to buy some gifts. And I didn't know that my code worked on their home section too. So, like someone texted me or messaged me that they got 30% off a console table with my code, which I was like, that's so awesome.

A (18:32)

Wow, that's huge.

B (18:34)

I know. So I got some capri blue candles from Anthropologie because I think that a nice candle is one of the best gifts to give. And I know it's like, I, I think a candle is a kind of overrated. I think a nice candle, especially if they're a candle person, it's something that you would never buy for yourself. And between the anthropology capri candles and the hotel lobby candles, also, spoiler alert, if you're on the car mom team, that might be one of your gifts.

A (19:05)

You're just like slowly going to reveal everything. I'm gonna have to do an unboxing.

B (19:12)

I know. Well, and I was also thinking, I told this to Mattie. She's. Maddie's gonna order like two extra of everything. And then I think I'm gonna do a giveaway of like, oh, that's gonna. Yeah. Or I'm just gonna like go randomly to like, my DMs or like my comments because, like, I kind of see the same names a lot of like, people who have supported me throughout the years. And maybe I'll just like randomly surprise two of you. With like, you're. You're on the team because you're on the team. You know what I mean? Yeah.

A (19:34)

Yeah, I do love that.

B (19:36)

Anyway, capri candles and hotel lobby candles galore, both on sale.

A (19:42)

Oh, the hotel lobby ones are. I love those. Okay. Something that I snagged on. Also on sale. Stanley was having a sale and you know, I love the 40 ounce ice flows. Yeah, they were 50 off, so they were $22 only in certain colors. But they weren't bad colors. Like, they were still cute colors. So I bought. I bought three of them for different Christmas gifts.

B (20:14)

Yeah, I missed that. Darn.

A (20:16)

I think it's still probably going on.

B (20:17)

Okay, maybe I'll look. I also placed a pretty hefty, well, a kid's clothing order now ever since I have had two and two. So I have two boys, two girls, boy, girl, Boy, girl is my order. And it's kind of made me realize as I've like been taking. As I bring George's old clothes up for Fred and Hattie's old clothes up for Libby, I'm really paying attention to like the clothes that I saved and the clothes that I like will actually put that child in. And some things just don't stand the test of time after, like, yeah, washing a million times, but putting in storage for a couple of years, it's just like, okay, like, I'm not. She's not wearing this. Like, this was gross. Um, and I don't like to have too many kids clothes. I do, I do a lot of laundry. We do laundry almost. I used to do like laundry once a week. Now we're doing laundry like every day. That's just kind of been like my new system I probably need to like, update my life on, but I'll do another day. So anyway, also I was like, my kids don't need thousands of hundreds of pieces of clothes. So I've really started to find, like, the brands that I really like. The 100% cotton shirts one, we need that for Fred's eczema. So it's just like, if Fred's doing it, I kind of all like us to do it. And I'm just trying to, like, kind of slow down and be a little bit more mindful about their clothes. Anyway. Tea collection. I'm obsessed with their clothes. They are so cute. Their Black Friday sale is amazing. Like, shirts are $10, pants are 15, dresses are $20. And like, they're like heirloom quality stuff. They're very cute prints without being too cute. Like, they're George they're realistic. Like, George loves the shirt, Hattie loves the dresses. So I placed a big tea collection. I couldn't believe how good the sale was. You.

A (22:01)

I know I feel that way a lot about a lot of these sales. I'm just like, okay, well it's, it's a lot to be spent right now. But like, I have bought so many of these things at full price at one point in my life that I've like, I know it's. I know it's. I know a good deal when you see it.

B (22:16)

Yeah.

A (22:18)

Something I recently bought Christmas gift related. So Maddie's. On Maddie's side. We have like some nieces and nephews that are like 8, 8 and 10 years old is kind of their range. And they, the girls have always thought that I was like, cool because I was like younger and like I was Maddie's girlfriend and whatever. They think I'm cool. And so now I want nothing more to be cool in their eyes. Like, it is so important to me. Last year for Christmas, I got them this, like, it was like a little kid's skin care because like they're at this age, like all they want to do is be like 18. So like, instead of toys and stuff, they wanted like skin care. So I got them this like kids non toxic skin care. That's probably really nothing to it, but it looks really cute. And then like one of those bubble headbands and like they raved about it, like, are still talking about how Antlers got them skincare. I. So I was like, what am I going to get them this year? Because I can't get them the same thing. So I ordered the girls. It's called White Fox. Have you seen. It's called a white. It's called the. It's called White White Fox Boutique and it's an online store. And they have like cute sweatshirts that say like White Fox and they're just like branded and they're like. I think normally they're like, it's like a 60 sweatshirt, but they were on sale for like $40.

B (23:46)

Okay.

A (23:46)

I just think they're gonna think that they're like cool girls. Like, my nanny wears this, wears this white fox all the time. And she's like 20. So I knew that like that's what the girls would want to be. And I'm really thinking I'm gonna hit it out of the park on the white. I'm looking up White Fox, another brand that they like that their brother had. And they were like so jealous of their brother's Sweatshirt is called comfort. Cm, F, R, T. You're just like, don't do the vowels. And those are a little bit cheaper than the White Fox. But I was just, like, trying to like, Scott.

B (24:18)

Isn't that Scott Disick's brand?

A (24:20)

Comfort? I have no idea. My. My nephew came walking into our house the other day, and he's like. He's 10. He's like, aunt Liz doesn't even have any comfort. I'm like, first of all, you have no idea if I have any comfort. I don't. But, like, they're obsessed with these, like, sweatshirts.

B (24:37)

Yeah. His is called Talentless. That's funny.

A (24:40)

Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. Same vibe.

B (24:42)

Okay, well, good for you. Okay, we'll look at you. Hopefully. Hopefully you kill it. Hopefully they love it.

A (24:49)

Hopefully. I really took it. I really took a risk on the White Fox versus just getting the comfort because I knew they were gonna like the comfort. But I'm trying to make it look like I know something. Like, you're.

B (24:59)

Like, you're cutting edge. Yeah. Yeah. Well, hopefully some people can weigh in, and maybe it's not too late to return them if you're wrong.

A (25:06)

Okay.

B (25:07)

Okay. My last transaction is, like, I told you guys yesterday, I did not have a very good day. I was just, like, really? Cortisol. I don't like to use the word panicky or anxious, but I guess that was a kind of. Probably a more accurate description. Anyways, I decided that I. After all this dog, was not gonna be able to make my kale Caesar salad for Thanksgiving. So I called the restaurant in my town, and I said, can you cater a salad for 10 people? I pick it up today. And they did.

A (25:43)

Okay, so no delicata squash.

B (25:46)

So, like, there's no delicata squash. There's no homemade Caesar. There's no. It is a good salad. It's a good house salad from. From. From an average restaurant when. Where I live, and I'm sorry.

A (26:00)

It's okay, Kelly. It's okay. You have been doing the most for so many years, so it's okay. No one's.

B (26:06)

And I told Mom. I'm like, this is the exception. This is not the new normal. Like, put this in the notes. I. I want you to write in the notes. Salad was mid. Looking forward to Kelly bringing the regular one next year. Like, that's what I want them to say.

A (26:19)

Write it before we even have it.

B (26:21)

It doesn't even. And if anyone's like, this is better, like, first of all, shut up, because it's not. But I just. Yeah. So that's what was my last. That was my last transaction.

A (26:32)

You and I are in such different phases right now because you are, like, struggling to get by, and I, like, couldn't be thriving more. My last transaction was a sourdough cook recipe book by Amy Bakes Bread. Amy Bakes bread's my favorite. Sourdough follow. All of her recipes are great. I'm killing it. I made her scones. So I'm bringing homemade scones for Thanksgiving, which, like, this is so, so fun to be to. This must be what it feels like to be you, because I'm bringing something that's homemade, that's impressive, that people are excited for, and I'm never that girl.

B (27:07)

Yeah, I know.

A (27:09)

We are.

B (27:10)

And totally we have switched. We've switched shoes.

A (27:13)

So I'm just going to enjoy it. I'm gonna ride my high horse all the way to Thanksgiving.

B (27:18)

Well, because. And you should, because what I reminded Elizabeth and you. If you don't have a sister, you're gonna think this sounds really mean, but, like, this is very much her year because, like, she's looking down the bar of, like, other pregnancies, other postpartum journeys. Like, this will be the. I mean, this. This is. This is. This is a freak accident off year for me.

A (27:39)

So I. Freak accident for me, actually, I think.

B (27:41)

Yeah. So I'm happy that this year you're having it together, and I want you to, like. I want you to ride the high.

A (27:48)

I will. Because, like, next Thanksgiving, next year, I'll.

B (27:50)

Pick up your pieces.

A (27:51)

Yeah, next Thanksgiving, God willing. I am just, like, can't do it because I'm, like, pregnant or have a baby or whatever.

B (27:59)

Yeah, I'm not.

A (28:01)

Yeah.

B (28:02)

All right, well, let's get into Dancing with the Stars.

A (28:05)

Okay. I said on Instagram I would be happy if Alex or Robert won. When I saw Robert win, I was a little bit sad.

B (28:20)

Same. And I'm like, I'm such a Robert Stan. And, like, my kids were so excited. I told him this morning because, like, they love the reptile guy. They just shouldn't have been on the same season because they are.

A (28:29)

That's what I'm pissed about. They are both. They both deserve it. Like, I love Robert winning if, like, I think he deserved it over anyone else except for Alex. Like, I want them to share it. I cannot believe they said that. They both got the most points or the most votes ever, and it was the closest that it's ever been. Like, that just. That's almost worse.

B (28:50)

It is Worse.

A (28:51)

Just goes to show, like, if anyone else, except for the most likable man on the planet, Robert Irwin, was against her, Alex would have won by a landslide. And that stinks.

B (29:07)

Yeah, it stinks. Okay, so. But I think. But I don't know who to say I wouldn't have been sad if Alex won and then Robert lost. And I'm like, him and Bendy didn't have that together like that.

A (29:16)

I mean, I think I wanted them both to win. I would. I probably would be feeling the same way if she won.

B (29:22)

I love that Robert one wouldn't have even have been mad if they just would have done some, like, B.S. like, we've got. For the first time ever, you're both winners.

A (29:29)

Like, I would. I would have been happy.

B (29:31)

Yeah, I. I would have been happy with that, too. I would have been happy with that. Overall, though, the finale, my thoughts. I don't think we needed five people. I would have preferred one more week. I think four would have been a better number because five just felt like a lot. Yeah, I do like that they placed everyone like, that felt like some good context. I felt like, kind of for the first time ever, like, I knew where everyone stood. I. I guess I agree overall with the scoring. I am surprised how much Dylan grew on me throughout the season. Like, I literally. It was. No one hated Dylan more than me.

A (30:09)

Yeah.

B (30:09)

And then by the end of it, I'm like, he's really improved. Like, I'm kind of, like, rooting for him.

A (30:14)

I know. So I really like him.

B (30:17)

I like him, too. Like, I might go watch Traitors. I don't even know what that is, but it just seems like something to watch. So I liked that. I thought the instant dances were crazy. Like, I was.

A (30:30)

My. My stomach. Was it not? Like, I was so nervous for them because I don't want to see anyone fall. Like, I don't want to see anyone get tripped up like that. Oh, that makes me cringe. But they all did great. And that also just goes to show that, like, when they're learning these dances, like, they're not just learning a choreographed routine. They are learning the technique of the dances. And it's amazing.

B (30:52)

It is just, like, so weird when you think about where do they go with these skills from here? Like, they just spent the last, you know, three months learning a skill that. What are you gonna do with it? Show off at a wedding?

A (31:08)

Yeah. I don't know.

B (31:09)

I don't know.

A (31:10)

It's gotta be kind of sad for them because they're like, the pros. Like, this gets to continue to be the pro's life. Like ballroom dance. They love it. It's their life. And now the stars are just like, okay, well, I can do a samba. So what?

B (31:23)

Yes.

A (31:24)

What are we doing?

B (31:24)

Does anyone care that I can do a samba? And it is interesting because it's like, now the pros are like, also stars to me.

A (31:32)

Oh, I can't wait for next season. Now that I know all this, all.

B (31:35)

The, the pros I know. And I feel like Jenna, like, she's a pro who got out so early, who's so good. Like, I'm excited to see. Oh, I'm just so thrilled to have this in my life now. I'll never not watch it, probably, but I'm gonna miss it so much. And yeah, I thought as far as dance goes, I thought Alex's freestyle was unbelievable. Is my favorite freestyle.

A (32:00)

It was. It was such a. It was such a moment. It was such a performance in ways. Like the other ones weren't. I thought Alex was my favorite. My second favorite was Elaine's. Hers was iconic.

B (32:18)

Iconic. I, I loved it. I loved, I loved the character. I loved. It was so fun.

A (32:25)

I didn't really care for Dylan's. I, I. Some people were like, it made me cry. I didn't really, I didn't really feel very connected to Dylan. And I like Dylan a lot.

B (32:34)

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I don't really remember that one. They did something with water. I didn't love Jordans.

A (32:43)

I actually, like, I re watched Jordan's today, and they're like, there were parts about it that I, I really thought were. It was so different than anything else. I did feel like Ezra was like, hardly in it. So I was like, where's Ezra? But it's also, like, about Jordan. I liked all of it except for when that other girl came into it. Because then I'm like, who is this? What's like, why are we doing this? But other than that, I liked it and I thought Roberts was really cute.

B (33:09)

Yeah, it was a fun show. I, like, just can't wait to. And now I feel like it's such like a highbrow like, like, I think any star would want to go do it. Like, I think it's so good for their careers.

A (33:20)

Yeah.

B (33:21)

So I'm hoping we get like, really, really some great a talent. Do you have any, like, stars you'd love to see on it? Like, cash your net wide, like, if you could have anyone. I know.

A (33:29)

You know what? I thought about this the other day, and honestly, like, it's been going on for so many freaking seasons. I would probably have to look up if these stars have even ever been on it. Yeah, I would love to see more comedians.

B (33:45)

Yeah.

A (33:45)

And that's like, I like. I like comedians on it.

B (33:48)

Like, Heather McMahon.

A (33:50)

Yeah.

B (33:53)

I feel like Blippi should be on it.

A (33:56)

Oh, that would be a really good one.

B (33:59)

Yeah. Blippi or Ms. Rachel. You know what I mean? Someone even fake. I'd even take fake Blip. Fake Blippi.

A (34:05)

No, I would take fake Blippi over real. Over original Blippi. I feel like, like, fake Blippi's, like, more into it.

B (34:10)

He's more into it. So I think that could be a good one.

A (34:13)

And he has, like, a theater background.

B (34:15)

Yeah, let's.

A (34:16)

Whereas wears originally follow him on Instagram.

B (34:18)

I think his name's Clayton. Let's get Clayton on dwts.

A (34:22)

Oh, that's a good one, Cal.

B (34:24)

Thank you. Thank you. They need, like, more other influencer influencers. I don't know who.

A (34:38)

Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to. I'd have to think about it. Some have, like, come to my mind, and I just, like, don't think about it. I just love learning about new people. Like, now I'm such fans of all these people.

B (34:48)

Well, and then I'm also sad because it's like, I'm such an Elaine fan and, like, what do I do now? Because, like, she's not very active on Instagram. Like, so where do I get my Elaine? My Elaine fill every week.

A (34:59)

Yeah.

B (35:00)

I don't know.

A (35:01)

I think I'm gonna go back. I might. I might just go back and maybe tell Maddie that a new season has started and just, like, start watching old seasons, like, every Tuesday night. I just love my routine of, like, Maddie puts the harder kid to bed. I put the easy one. I veg out on the couch for two hours. Like, I. That's just, like, really become an important step in my life.

B (35:23)

Well, see, here's what I want to do. I want to re. Watch. There's this season of Dancing with the Stars that I don't know the history as much as other people, but it really, like, changed the way, like, they did the voting because this man named Bobby Bones was on it. Do you know who Bobby Bones is?

A (35:38)

Yeah.

B (35:39)

Okay. He was on it, and he ended up winning. And he was, like, not a good dancer, like, a little better than Andy, but, like, was not, like, mirrorball winner worthy. And there was this other guy named Milo who was partners with Whitney. Now Milo Is from the zombies movie on Disney, which is one of my kids favorite movies. So like, we love Milo in this with Zed. We'll call him by his character's name is Zed. We love Zed. It's always coming upset around our house. And he was on it and he lost to Bobby Bones. And it was like this crazy thing because like his freestyle is iconic. Like one of the stars recreated his freestyle during this season.

A (36:23)

Yeah, no, I want to, I want to watch it because I want to see if Bobby Bones was like actually that likable that he like should have gotten all of the votes or not. Because there was a reason it didn't just happen.

B (36:35)

Apparently Bobby Bones gave back his trophy.

A (36:40)

Oh.

B (36:42)

Yeah.

A (36:44)

Okay, I'm gonna have to. I gotta watch this season.

B (36:47)

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I don't know. I didn't watch that season. So that's what, that's the season I think I'm gonna go watch.

A (36:56)

Okay, I'll do it too, because.

B (36:57)

Okay. Okay. Anything else to show me onto industry news where I spill the hot tea going on in the auto industry.

A (37:03)

Let's move on. I've said my piece.

B (37:05)

Okay, first story. Transportation department debuts more accurate female crash dummy. Now, you might have seen this, like circulating the news sources. And what this is, is it's a headline, but it's pretty much a nothing burger. And I'm going to explain why. So right now, the female crash dummy that they have is like basically just like a small version of the male crash test dummy. So like, it's different because like men and women's. Men and women's bodies are different. So it doesn't account for like the physiological differences that happen to women. So this one is more accurate. It has more technology on it. So like, for example, the pelvis for the female frame is more rounded and does not hold the seat belt the same way. So that's why these are important. It is exciting that they have developed this dummy. But I want to be really clear with like the word developed, that just means it's there sitting there. It doesn't mean it's getting crash tested with. And even when it does get crash tested with, it doesn't mean that it becomes that. It doesn't mean that its performance becomes the new standard or even anything that it's rated on. So like, yeah, they could like, maybe crash. I mean, the manufacturers can crash test with anything that they want, but they're only required to crash test with the current dummy. So this one's not Like a requirement yet. I'm kind of giving you like the super digestible version. And I don't want to say it's a nothing burger because, like, it's exciting that this technology is out there, but it's not. They're not using it yet. You know what I mean?

A (38:43)

It's like, well, and these dummies cost like hundreds of thousands up to a million dollars. Like, they're just so expensive. So that would also require all of these manufacturers and. Or like these testing sites to buy multiple of these mil. You said it was a million dollars of this million dollar crash dummy, so.

B (39:03)

Yeah, and it is interesting. I don't know. It's so hard because like, I'm not gonna say, like, I don't care. I don't want them to crash us on female dummies, because I do. But to me, it's like, I also just like want the. I want just the cars to continue to improve their crash ratings in every capacity, you know?

A (39:25)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (39:28)

So I'm not saying again, it doesn't matter. Right. But like, yes, it's a man. Like, okay, whatever. But like right now we have like one solid constant and like that constant is still getting hurt in a lot of cars. Like, there are still many cars that don't pass, that have four star ratings, three star ratings don't, I mean, fail IHS tests.

A (39:48)

Yeah.

B (39:49)

So it's kind of like, why don't we, like, why aren't like, let's just make those. Let's continue to improve that aspect of it. So that's just a little what that means. It's not that it's not exciting. Yes, it's exciting. And I think it would be interesting to know. There's just, there's. I don't know, there's. I have a lot of opinion. I have a lot of opinions on it. We need to probably like have Jessica Jamaician back on to get her take on it, you know? Okay, this is a crazy story. You're gonna love this story. Okay, so there were some influencers. Who were these guys, the content creators under the name Middle Lane. They're these guys on TikTok and they were at the LA Auto show with their press credentials and they went into the new Jeep recon, which is the $65,000 new Jeep that's come out that I just like, haven't really made a story because, like, I don't know, Jeep's always making overpriced cars. Just didn't really seem that noteworthy anyway.

A (40:49)

They.

B (40:51)

They had A video go viral because they were pulling apart this Jeep Recon to like show the build quality. So like they'd be like, look at this trim. It's like, look, I can just like rip it off. And like they're being. Have you seen the video?

A (41:05)

No.

B (41:05)

They're being so aggressive with it and they think they're being so funny. Okay, couple of things. Like one, you can definitely like point it out and question it without destroying the car. Like they're destroying the car. Second, these guys are obviously idiots because it's a pre production model and pre production models are put together by hand. Like it's not, it's not, it's a pre production car. It's just to show the vibes, the aesthetics. Like it's not the final car.

A (41:34)

Oh. So my gosh.

B (41:37)

Yeah. It says the actions taken to disassemble the all new Jeep Recon display at the LA Auto show were both destructive and unprofessional. The company said that the pre production models are assembled by hand, not constructed in the same fashion the consumer ready vehicle will be, which goes for sale in 2026. The vehicle in question is a pre production car built exclusively before reveals and events to highlight the design inspiration for the final product.

A (42:01)

Yeah, I need to find this.

B (42:04)

The video of the recon has since been deleted on YouTube and Instagram, but remain published on TikTok as of late Tuesday, November 25th.

A (42:14)

I don't have tick tock. Is it going to show it to me?

B (42:17)

Is this the guy? Miami. Miami.

A (42:20)

Oh, I have to sign in.

B (42:23)

I want to push back on the claims of destructive content. As the video clearly shows, the clippings holding certain interior parts together were loose and the parts were easily. They were just saying they didn't have to try that hard to pop them out.

A (42:36)

Oh, that's like. That's like so unfortunate for these guys.

B (42:40)

Well, here's the thing. It is unprofessional.

A (42:43)

It isn't like no one's going to invite you to stuff.

B (42:47)

And let me be clear, I push the line all the time. I remain professional. I would never go. And it was just like so for clicks, you know what I mean? And they're idiots. It's reproduction. You're an idiot.

A (43:01)

Yeah.

B (43:01)

In the final car.

A (43:03)

Wow.

B (43:04)

Yeah.

A (43:05)

That's crazy.

B (43:06)

And then my last two little stories are just like some other things that happened from the LA Auto Show. The only things that I think we really care about is that the Kia Telluride is coming out with a hybrid, which we were expecting up to 35 miles per gallon. So now you'll have the Telluride in the pal. The Palisade Hybrid's already out. Yeah, it's really exciting. I'm really excited. I'm a little worried about old gm, like where's our Traverse hybrid? Where are any hybrid gm? So on their EV grind. But like now we've got Toyota Grand Highlander hybrid, Palisade hybrid, Telluride hybrid. I'm sure I'm missing some but this is exciting because I've been saying for years like we just don't have a lot of good hybrid options for families. And now they're coming and they're coming in a major way.

A (43:54)

No, it's so exciting.

B (43:56)

And then the Honda Pilot actually got like a mid cycle refresh which I am actually excited about the advancements because it really the, the biggest thing is they finally put the 12 inch screen in the Honda Pilot because like the craziest thing about the Pilot is it had only a 9 inch display which is wild because in the Accord it had the 12 inch display. So you're just like what are you doing here? Like all the other cars in this class have such big beautiful screens and infotainment systems and you couldn't even put like your best one in your biggest car. Like it was just so, it was, there was such a disconnect. So now The Honda Pilot for 26 will have the 12.7 inches touchscreen display. And like really that's a, for me I think that's a huge improvement. It's just so much more competitive. Like I remember when the Pilot was up for the car of the year, we kind of had to knock it on interior design when we were comparing it to the, the other cars like the Traverse because it's like it wasn't even competitive, you know, like so now, now I think even if like I don't really. One's always going to be better than the other and then I think that gets kind of a little too opinionated and we don't like to make a lot of our scorings off of like opinions. But I do think it's easy to look at something and say like is this in the same class? And the old Pilot technology wise was not in the same class. I'm excited about 26.

A (45:16)

Yeah.

B (45:17)

And that's industry news. Pretty juicy.

A (45:21)

It's super juicy. That's. I need to go try and make a tick out tick tock account just so I can watch that video. Okay, Kello, are you ready for ditch the drive thru where we Give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner rut.

B (45:34)

Yes, I am.

A (45:36)

What are you going to make the day after Thanksgiving?

B (45:39)

Like, yeah, like today, this is the worst. The worst day of the year. So, you know, it's like, I. Here's my current plan. I have bought the things to make turkey tetrazzini. Now, I love turkey tetrazzini. I do not have the turkey, so I need to take. I'm really banking on there being enough leftover turkey for me to take home for my family. Yeah, I'm rolling the dice. It's very much like when you go to the grocery store at 5:30 on a Thursday and like, hope they have a rotisserie chicken there or your dinner plans are screwed. Like, that's how I'm feeling. I'm feeling a little uneasy about the whole thing. So mom said she's doing two turkeys though, so I'm confident there'll be leftovers. But, you know, I needed. I mean, I'm a family of six. I need a decent amount.

A (46:32)

Yeah.

B (46:33)

So. But I have everything else. I've. And I. So I have everything else. So that's where I think.

A (46:38)

I think you should be fine. Yeah, I'm choosing to believe. I'm choosing to believe you'll be fine. And if you just have to. Just have to have tetrazzini, then you just have to have tetrazzini. I am making a family favorite and I have always have, or I usually have all of the ingredients with the exception of my ground beef, which I have. And that is crunch wraps. My family loves crunch wraps. They are so easy to make and pack a huge punch. So I know everyone will be happy. I know it will be like a nice filling meal. And all I have to do is pull ground beef out of my freezer. And guys, with that, that is going to be our episode. So thank you so much for listening to the carpool podcast and we'll talk to you next time.

B (47:24)

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A (47:26)

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B (47:31)

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