← The Carpool with Kelly and Lizz
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A
Welcome to the carpool podcast with Kelly. And then I drove a 2003 F250 Powerstroke diesel. And we named him Pony boy.
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B
And Liz, I really feel like I cannot relate to at all. Like, unless we were going through this together. Like, I like you saying, like, bone broth and lemon is, like, such a sweet treat. Like, have you tried sour punch straws? Like, I just cannot.
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A
Your mom. Time off starts now. Welcome back to the carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz. Happy Friday.
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B
Happy Friday. What are you guys doing this weekend?
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A
Are you talking to me or to our listeners?
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B
To you.
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A
We have our dinner auction.
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B
Oh, first one of the season.
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A
First one of the season. So it's so fun. Like, me and all my sister in laws, like, all of our schools have dinner auctions. Well, one of them doesn't have kids in school yet, but so we go to three. And it's very much a game of, like Four Weddings, you know, because it's like, oh, they did a good job with this. This one did good. Like, oh, that item went for so much money. Like, we have. I have fun with it. I don't know if anyone else does. So. My school's interaction is kind of insane, though. Like, the decorating committee goes so hard. I mean, I mean, so hard. And we just have it at our school's gym and they transform it. So this year's theme is Clue, which. Ooh, I know. It's kind of a fun theme.
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B
It's uni.
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A
Some people, like, will dress in theme. Some people. I'm going for, like, theme inspired. Like, I think I might wear what I wore to that Merrick anthropology launch party. Like, the burgundy pants, like the green and burgundy velvet top. Just kind of like moody. Clue.
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B
Emerald or jewel tones?
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A
Jewel tones, yeah. But I mean, I'm not gonna dress as, like, Miss Scarlet with.
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B
I mean, I don't know, I think like, you could throw on like a neck scarf or something.
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A
Sure, I might. I don't know. I'm really, really excited though. It's like a wild. I mean, it's a wild time. Like, it's just so. It's like all the parents getting together and, like, without the kids, you know, so fun. And like, I. I love a dinner auction. Like, get me in front of a silent auction. Get me in front of the live auction.
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B
I love a silent auction.
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A
I'm gonna be deadly. Because I'm telling you, no one will come between me and the first row at the kindergarten concert tickets. And I mean, no one.
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B
Okay, do you have a limit in your mind of what you are willing.
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A
Absolutely not. The limit is that I will win. The limit is I will win. Because I don't, like. Like, you know, I'm gonna make a donation to the school regardless.
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B
Right.
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A
I don't need stuff. Like, I'm actually. We talked about this in the last episode. I'm not trying to bring more things into my home. I'm trying to work on my experiences. And my experiences would be, I would like first row seats to the kindergarten concert, because next year, Hattie will be in kindergarten. And I was in the back with Jordan. I'm not happy about it.
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B
Okay. Actually, I mean, you've got four kids. Like, it's hard for you to get anywhere on time. I actually love that for you.
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A
Yeah, No, I am, like, really excited about it.
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B
I think that's, like, a great hack. Like, save your donation for the auction when you can get, like, the premier parking or the premier seating.
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A
Yeah. Like, I mean, I just don't need. And nothing is a deal at. At my school dinner auction, like, sometimes you go to one in, like, you know, people aren't bidding. So, like, sometimes you can get, like, you know, at least of the ones I go to, like, you can get a Jimmy John's gift card for $25. That was really for 30 because, like, it's not even that value. That's not the case in my school dinner auction. Like, everything goes for far more than what it's worth. So all to say is, I want. I want that. So that's what I had my heart set on.
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C
Okay.
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A
And the hardest part of the whole auction is going to be I did volunteer to work the dessert table. Oh. So the way that our dinner auction works is the caterer. It's like, dinner's provided with your ticket price, but the dessert is not provided. And instead, all the church ladies and all the moms of the parish make a dessert and then bring it on the table. So, like, you have to pay for the dessert, but, like, they are. I mean, and, you know, they go for a lot, but, like, then you get like, an entire cheesecake that's homemade. Like, so good.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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C
What.
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B
What do they go for? Like, what. What's a lot? Like, is it a hundred dollars? Is it $60?
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A
So it depends. So, like, at our schools, it's like, things are just on a table. So, like, you know, It'll be like 25, 30. It'll go up to probably 50.
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B
Okay.
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A
So that's just, like, you come up, you grab what you want, but at My sister in law's dinner auction. Theirs is a dessert auction. So, like, it's a silent auction for the dessert. So that gets wild. And, like, my mother in law will bring, like, her carrot cake. Like, I've seen it go for like 300 before.
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B
Like, it is insane, honestly. And, like, this is gonna be the best feeling in the world for Barb, too.
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A
Oh, my God. Like, literally. I know, I know.
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B
So, guys, imagine this. Like, Kel, I know we said this before. We're like, Kelly's wedding. Kelly did not have the vanilla with the lemon curd. She did not have the chocolate with the raspber. Kelly and Tyler had, like a cake. They cut like a decorative cake, essentially. And then it was like Barb's carrot cake was served and another. Another cake, but I only remember the carrot cake.
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A
It's the best carrot cake in the world. Yeah. And she. I need to find the recipe because she's not. She's not one to not give the recipe. The problem is her recipe is not comprehensive. Ah. And she'll just be like, just call me. Like, you know, it's kind of like a how it looks, not what.
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B
What the card says, what the vibes are, what. Where the vibes are at, which I
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can respect because that's very much how my recipes are too. I'm just. I'm not a baker, so it's a lot harder for me. But all to say is I will not be participating in the consumption of the dessert, but I do think I will enjoy just, like, the visual stimulation of looking at the desserts. Like, I think it'll be fun to interact with them in a way that doesn't mean consuming them well.
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B
And you'll be working. Like, you're.
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A
And I'm working.
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B
You're serving.
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A
No. And like, I'm everyone's worst nightmare. Like, I'm going to be like, really? You? Like, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get some people to bid up. You know what I mean?
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B
So you are a sales. You are a saleswoman to your core. Do you remember? This is like, just speaking of dinner auctions, I, like, vaguely remember you might not have even actually been there, because it was in high school and I was working our high school's dinner auction. And dad had agreed. Now he had agreed to match people's donations in, like, a certain range. So it was like anywhere from this amount to this amount, he will. He'll match their donations. It was like a fund a need. It was like the fund a need one. So you literally are Just like giving cash. And I don't. So let's say he was like, okay, anyone who does five hundred to a thousand, like, I will match what they, what they do. That's what he had agreed to. So they're doing it, they're getting donations, whatever. He's like, he's. He said he's going to match it. And then the auctioneers, like literally the president of our school at the time or something like that was like, okay, well now we're gonna do. We're gonna open up to this amount. Craig, will you match that one too? And like he had not agreed to that. But what is he gonna say? No. So like, I have never heard this story. It was so uncomfortable because it was like it was already a lot like thousands of dollars that he was matching on top of like he bought some of the dinner auction. Like he donated to our school a lot. And they literally like put him. It was like, well, now do you want to match all these donations? So he's like, yeah. It was so awkward.
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A
That is so awkward. Now you have to know when not to push. I'm a pusher, but I'm a pusher with self, with awareness.
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B
Well, and like you're pushing one person, right?
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A
Like one person. Like, like, for example, like at one of them, you know, if me, my brother in law are bidding, like, I'm going to let him win, but I'm going to push him.
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B
Yeah, but don't push the person who's already matched 100. You weren't there because I was working because it was my senior year and they were probably like, we gotta get all he's worth because they're graduating. They didn't know Sydney was coming through next.
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A
Oh, that's awkward.
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B
It was so awkward.
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A
Okay, well, anyway, we've got like such a busy day. It's at the time of this recording, it is Ash Wednesday. We're ashed. I see that you got just like the thumbprint.
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B
No, I'm like looking at myself in the monitor. It almost looks like an eyeball. I feel like I'm giving cyclops right now and it's like really hard to look at myself in the monitor right now.
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A
It is really hard. Mine is just like, mine's like wispy. Mine's already coming off. I will be removing mine for our filming today because it's like, it's not, it's not like there enough. Like, it does just. Mine does just look like dirt on my head.
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B
Yeah. You know, it was always the biggest flex in catholic grade School to get, like, a perfect cross.
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A
I know.
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B
And, like, they were. They're few and far between. And like, I've never been an astro Spencer before. Like, I cannot imagine it's that hard to just, like, give everyone a good cross. Like, I. I actually feel like you have to, like, go out of your way to like, give people a bad cross.
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A
What I wonder if they do. You gotta keep it interesting.
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B
What does that say? You know, what does it say about me?
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A
Well, I'm on day three of my sugar, fast as the rest as any. So one of the reasons why I decided, like I said last episode, to start two days early is so that I can be more aligned with you when you're hearing this, because I'm a woman of the people and I want to support you. So we are on day three and the cravings hit me really, really hard last night. Like, I literally just had to go to bed because, like, I wanted sugar so badly. But here are the things that have been, like, really helping me. I've got two things that I would be sad without right now. And the first is, is. Is bone broth. Like, what do you know about bone broth? Bone broth. Beef bro. Beef bone broth with lime. Chicken bone broth with lemon. That is an incredible treat that has satiated me more than I can even begin to describe. Like, I'll make the whole carton. First of all, it's like 19 grams of protein I can sip because, like, I think the problem with this is I'm just not finding myself. I'm looking for food to take longer to consume because, like, I'm not snacking as much. It's really delicious. So I would not be here without bone broth. Now, unfortunately, today is Ash Wednesday and I'm not allowed to eat meat. So that's really. Because I'm not going to do a vegetable broth. That's insane. So today is going to be a really tough day for me. Like, really tough.
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B
Bone broth do you think counts as meat?
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A
That's an excellent question. I would say it counts as meat. Do you not think it does?
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B
I don't know. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have like, clocked that as like, oh, you're having meat because it's a broth.
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A
Sure. But
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B
I don't know.
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A
We'll have to come back to that. I think it's probably a no go and it's fine because today I'm prepped to avoid. But anyway, that's been amazing. And then my second thing, which is Actually going to be like my base model. Luxury of the day is the true lime lemon orange grapefruit packets. Now I. We used to be one of our first episodes of the carpool podcast ever.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
We did a taste test of these true lime packets. So, like, they look like a. It's like a stevia packet, like a little sugar packet, but it's just crystallized fruit. There's no added sugar. There's no nothing in it. It's a little crystallized fruit. They are so incredible to keep in your purse. Like, I always keep them in my car and I used to, like, add lemon to my. Like, add a true lemon to my diet Coke, like, so good. Or like, I'll always keep the lime ones in my purse when I'm going out to like, a dinner auction. Because one thing about dinner auction, like, I'm sorry if it's in the gymnasium, like, I can tell you right now, the limes are going to be dry. Like, it's just not. You know what I mean? So I would always bring those to, like, add to my cocktails. But now that I'm not doing artificial sugar, which, which is an update from my from last episode, I decided to cut out artificial sugar. Those are really getting me through.
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B
Okay.
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A
Like, a little true lemon in my water. Like, of course you could just bring a thing of lemon, but that's just not always. It's, it's. It's a convenience thing and it's an on the go thing.
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B
You know, I really feel like I cannot relate to at all. Like, unless we were going through this together. Like, I like you saying, like, bone broth and lemon is like such a sweet treat. Like, have you tried sour punch straws? Like, I just cannot. Like, we are so. I, like, I, I just, I don't relate to you at all. And I want you so bad. And like, I want to, like, be here for your journey, but, like, I just don't understand.
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A
Yeah, I get it. I get it.
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B
But I think I have seen a lot of people who are excited to join you. And in a different world, I would be so excited to join you. But maybe you will just have to do it again with me when I'm. I'm ready to try.
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A
I don't think. I think I will eat low sugar the rest of my life now. Like, I know I'm only day three in, but like, I'm telling you, I cannot believe how much added sugar I was eating a day without even having a sweet treat or, like, without even trying.
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B
No, that's what's crazy?
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A
Like, it's just been really eye opening to be like, okay, for breakfast, like, I would have, like, you know, finished the kids. I would have had like a big thing of orange juice and like, I would have finished, like, one of the kids waffles. And then, like, I would have, like, gone to the doctor's office and like, ate a Jolly Rancher. And then I would, like. It's just like, it. It all adds up. And when I'm just like, more aware that I'm not having, like, little bits of sugar throughout the day, right now I'm feeling really good. Like, people say day three is the worst. As of this morning, I feel really energized. I already feel, like, less bloated and less coffee.
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B
Okay.
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A
But I do think I'll probably crash again this evening.
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C
Okay.
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A
I mean, last night was so rough. I literally had to eat, which again, I'm keeping fruit for the first two weeks and then I'm gonna reevaluate, like, the higher sugar fruit. But last night I had to eat. I ate a banana and I dipped it in cinnamon and I ate it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it was unbelievable. This is the best thing you've ever had.
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B
I'm really excited to hear your thoughts after. After it all.
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A
Yeah, me too.
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B
Because, like, you've never. You've never, like, obviously you've never been addicted to anything, like, hard, like the hard addictions, but, like, this is an addiction. So in your body does have to go through a withdrawal. Like, this is the closest thing you will get to finding out what that feels like. And that's like, very eye opening.
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A
And what I'm really loving about a detox versus, like a. And I'm doing air quotes here. A diet is a detox does encourage you to, like, kind of go to the extreme because, like, you're trying to get it out of your system so you can get the benefits. And I'm also, again, doing this to prove to God that I love him more than sugar. Like, there's just. There's so many reasons why I think this is going to be successful for me. Because, you know, in the past when I've tried to, like, be, you know, restrictive or mindful or whatever, it's been like, okay, well, if I cheat a little bit here, like, that's okay because I'll do this and I'll do that, but, like, and then the cheating, like, the, the cheating on it or the, you know, bites, little bites and tastes here just snowball into, like, getting off track. And I feel like, when you're just detoxing, you're like, no, I can't even, like, finish that orange juice. Or like, no, I can't have that Gatorade. Or, like, no, I can't have that Jolly Rancher because, like, I'm detoxing from sugar.
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B
A detox is also. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Like, there is a time where you will be done with it. And a diet is like, when is this gonna be? Like, never. It will be done. Like, a detox has very clear, hard and fast rules.
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A
Yes. But, you know, it's interesting. That ax of sourdough, like, she went out to do, she's on Instagram and I found her 40 day sugar fast. She read the same book and she's on day 47 and like, she's like, not quitting anytime soon. Like, she's just enjoying it. I don't think I will be this the way the rest of. I mean, again, I'm also day three. Like, let's talk in a little bit. But I'm just saying, like, it's been a really eye opening experience for me so far and I've just never done, like, a health journey like this. And I also can't believe I never thought to do, like, a health journey with God. You know what I mean? Because, like, no, like, one thing on me is, like, I'm a very, like, weak person. Like, literally, of course I can't do it on my own. Like, of course I can't do it on my own. I can't do anything on my own.
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C
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B
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A
How is the decluttering going? Did you pull your number?
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B
It's actually great. I like actually hate it when I pull a low number just right now because there's like so much I could get rid of. But what has been really nice is I also ended up writing down 40 places in my home that could use decluttering. And some of them are big and some of them are small. But the other day I was like, well, I was kind of like locked in my bedroom because my kids were like getting dressed with their nanny and like, they can't see me at a
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C
certain time of day.
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B
Otherwise just whatever. I was locked in my room and I was like, you know what? My. I know my nightstand is on my list of things that could use decluttering. So it took me four minutes, decluttered my nightstand, and now it's organized. When I open my nightstand, I get a dopamine hit.
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A
Isn't that exciting?
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B
So it's really, it's really exciting to write all the places down. And like, I wrote my dresser, but I broke my dresser up into two parts. Side one, side two. Because it's too much for me to try and sit down and do like my entire dress or like, when am I gonna do that? But I might have time to do like one side and, and I'm loving it. I've already gotten rid of an entire, an entire trash bag of things. And it just, it feels, it feels good. I'm, I'm really enjoying it. But I also had a base model luxury kind of along with the things that we're giving up, which is the screen, which is the doom scrolling. We've talked with this before, but the New York Times puzzles Elizabeth totally.
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A
This is a great base metal luxury.
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B
This is what I have been doing when, you know, maybe I'm rocking a kid, maybe I'm sitting with them while they've got their screen time going on. Instead of doom scrolling on my phone, I'm like, let me do the New York Times puzzles. They have an app. It's free.
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A
Oh, I didn't know they're up to an app now. That's good to hear.
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B
Yeah, they're up to an app. And there's like, I like to do the mini crossword. I like to do the spelling bee. I like to do Connections, and I like to do wordle. And it's good for your brain again. I can just feel myself getting dumber with ChatGPT. And I, like, need to work my brain.
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A
You need Mom. Mom's always exercising her brain.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, she's very disciplined about that. It is. Is it a muscle?
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B
I would say your brain's a muscle.
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A
Unsure, but yeah, you need to be working it for sure. Yeah. Connections is the worst game, though. I refuse that game.
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B
Oh, I love it. I mean, sometimes it pisses me off because I'm like, in the world would I have gotten.
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A
Every day it pisses me off every day.
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B
I. That's like, one of my favorite ones.
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A
No, I. I can understand wordle. I find Connections to be infuriating.
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B
Oh, yeah. It. Sometimes they're like, wow, what a stretch.
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A
But yeah, so, like, basically between. So the new apps on our phones are New York Times, Duolingo, and Pinterest. Have you been scrolling on Pinterest yet?
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B
I did that the other day, but, yeah, I'm with you. It's like, I need the. I need the photos not be so small. Like, I need them to be bigger, like a feed.
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A
Oh, that's so interesting.
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B
I wonder if there's a setting I can adjust.
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A
I wonder if there's a setting because they should do that.
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B
Like, it's just. It's too much to try and look at. And you're right, they're beautiful photos. But, like, I want to see them more up close.
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A
They're beautiful, and I'm so inspired. And I just feel like I'm not seeing that same content on Instagram anymore. Like, why am I not seeing this reef on Instagram? Why am I not seeing this is around? It's like, I'm telling you, I'm not seeing this stuff.
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B
Instagram used to be a lot more about aesthetics, and now it's a lot more casual, so I would say that's why. But Pinterest, if. If only. Only beautiful things will. Will be. Will be shared.
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A
Yeah, it's just like, such a good app. Like, I've just really enjoyed it. Yeah, really enjoyed it. All right, so anyway, I believe today we are doing a little Q A.
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B
Yes, I. We did a little Q A on our Instagram to see what everyone's. Anyone had any burning questions?
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A
We just, like, Loved answering your question about, like, we didn't love. Well, I mean, whatever. We were unfazed by it. Like, people were just curious about, like, the finances.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And stuff like, which is interesting.
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B
It was fun to pull back the curtain.
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A
And I'm like, such a curious person too, so I totally get it.
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B
Well, here's a pull back the curtain kind of. What inspired you guys to start a podcast?
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A
So I've always loved podcasts. Like, I'm not like, a music person and we've always been, like, really mindful, like, making sure, like, we are diverse as possible because we always have just lived our lives like, okay, like, you know, this is fun. Like, we're successful now. Like, we're making good income now, but, like, it could all go up in flames tomorrow. Like, what if Instagram. Instagram gets deleted tomorrow? Like, we'll just have nothing. So I've always prioritized diversity. That's why we're on YouTube. We have a lot of investment in the website. Be like, love the Facebook group and then the podcast. So it's kind of like my driving factor. And we wanted to bring Liz on in a less behind the scenes way, in a more like a. In front of the camera kind of way.
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B
Yeah. No, it's funny, like, when you started when we would do like, Instagram lives and like, people. People would love it when I would come on the live and they just, like, liked our banter. So we, yeah, decided to do a podcast. How to facilitate good sibling bonds. Your family seems so close and it's a goal for mine. I have thought about this and we've talked. We've mentioned this before on the podcast. This question comes up a lot. I honestly think. Well, first of all, our parents always told us that you know how important family is and you'll always be close and you'll always make up. And to have a world where you, like, don't speak to your siblings, that's just not the world we live in. So they always said that. But I really think to facilitate the bonds is like, to step away and to let them get like, our. My mom, we. They had five kids. Like, my mom could not spend a lot of quality time with all of us. That meant Kelly and I were hanging out a lot. That meant that Kelly and I were babysitting Sydney and Grayson a lot. Or we were with Craig a lot. Like, we were just. And I. And they traveled a lot. Like, my dad. Our dad really stretched our mom. Like, she did not like to leave, as we all know. Like, how much it sucks to leave when you have kids, but my dad, like, really stretched her to leave and go on vacation. And they would do date night once a week. And, you know, thank goodness. Now they have, like, a wonderful relationship. But that meant we were alone with each other. Like, we only had. We didn't only have each other. Like, our parents are very present, but, like, you kind of have to, like, step. Step away and, like, let them play and let them figure it out and let them build their own relationship. Because if you want your s. If you want your children to be close, that that means that, like, you're not a part of it. Like, that's their relationship.
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A
I think another thing that our parents did really well, and this is really gonna rub some people the wrong way. And that's fine. You don't have to center yourself in this. But we had something called family season, and family season meant no one was allowed to play a spring sport. Yeah, because. Or spring and summer sports. Because, like, we wanted to do things as a family. We wanted to go to the lake. We wanted to go to the farm. We wanted to go on trips. We wanted to just, like, be together. And my dad just, like, didn't wanna live in a. Like, you know, in the spring and summer, like, mom had to take two kids to a softball game. And, like, Craig had baseball games. And, like, we weren't together. So, like, we were allowed to play fall and winter sports. We were not allowed to play summer sports.
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B
And I. I loved that.
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A
Yeah. And, like, I'm not, like. And I get. Like, some of you are like, well, my kid loves baseball. It's like, okay, well, then fine, then maybe you don't play fall sports. Maybe you guys don't play winter sports. Like, I also don't think you need to have your kids in sports 365 days a year. I think it's important to pick a season that's family time. And I mean, I really think, like, we. We just spent a lot of time together as a family. And I think some families don't do that. Some families don't spend all their weekends together. But, like, during the spring and summer, we did.
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B
Yeah. Our summer, none of us played. First of all, our dad played football at Mizzou. Like, our dad was an incredible athlete. So you would think that, like, the. The athletic genes could have been carried. Carried on. Like, if anyone was like, maybe my kids will get an athletic scholarship. You know, maybe it could have been the D1 football player, wasn't it? Being healthy, being fit was always a big Priority. The only one of our siblings who ended up being a D1 athlete or got any sort of athletic scholarship was Sydney. And she picked up rowing her sophomore year of high school. So it's also just like, I know that's not why. I know a lot of people do it for the social reasons. And we know we're so cute. Like we're not in sports. Like people are saying, just you wait girls, and maybe just a sweat. Because I don't know how it's going to be when James is like, but my best friend is playing these sports and I gotta do it. You know, I don't know how I'm gonna react to that. But going into it with the best intentions, I, I agree with you. Like, I would like to not have sports be such a big deal.
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A
Well, in sports I've really liked because I've had a lot of conversations with, with older parents, with parents of older kids. And the problem with sports now is they've gotten too competitive. It used to be you could maybe put play a little bit in grade school and then you could make the high school team. Now it's like, if you even want to dream of making the high school team, like, you better be in like select sports for by the time you're in the fourth grade up, like the sports I'm telling you, have gotten out of control.
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B
Is that true? They don't think they'll make a high school team if they don't do select.
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A
Well, I mean, Liz, the problem is now everyone's doing select. So like it's just, it's so much more competitive. It's starting so much sooner. Like we dibbled on our grade school teams and like, you know, you had practice once a week. It was like a eight week season and then it was over. Now it's like travel, travel, travel. And like, I know there are benefits to sports. I'm not diminishing those. But there's also benefits to not always doing sports and to spending time with your family.
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C
Yeah.
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A
As a family. So we, I mean right now George plays football and basketball. He's not playing baseball. And I don't like soccer.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Now if my kids begged me to play soccer, fine. But like I'm not, we're not doing, we're doing football right now. We're doing football and basketball. And I'm going with it and I really will. I don't see a world where we pick up spring sports and my kids aren't. Again, my kids aren't asking. And again, it's not Because I'm lazy. It's not because I want to take them somewhere. It's because I want to prioritize all four of my kids together. Yeah. So that. I mean, that. That is a hot. And I know people are, like, gonna take this the wrong way, but
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B
it was. It was a question. And that's. That's true. And Craig did not play baseball. We did not play softball. We did not play select sports.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And that's that. Okay.
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A
Sports are just like, okay, I'm done. I'll shut up about sports.
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B
I never. Here's another question. I never hear you talk about the Ford Explorer. What are your thoughts on it?
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A
Oh, so, like, there's just like a group of cars, in my opinion, that are just so mid. And I don't mean that they're bad. I just mean they're not amazing at anything. So I think just by default, they don't get talked about a lot. And the Ford Explorer falls in that category. Like, it's a great car. I think it's fine. It's not the biggest, it's not the highest tech, it's not the safest, it's not the most car seat friendly. It's not the most fuel efficient. Like, what do you want me to say? It's mid. It's fine. If you have two kids, great. If you have three kids, great. Other mid cars I would describe as, like, I would say the Ford Explorer, the Mazda CX90, the Subaru Ascent. Those are just kind of like the mid ones, you know?
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B
Yeah, I know. They just don't get talked about.
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A
Like, same thing with, like, the Nissan Armada. Like, I find that to be a mid car. Like, it's just not the best at anything. Like, I couldn't tell you one thing the four Explorers the best at, except for being a cop car. Yeah. And that doesn't mean it's a bad car.
- [30:04]
B
No, no, it's just you're also always working with, like, within very, like, serious constraints of, like, this many kids. This car seats whatever. So there's just cars that do it.
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A
But also that's a fair critique. I should get in front of one more because I do like it. And they redesigned it for 25, and we really. Or was it 24? I don't know. 24, 25.
- [30:22]
B
Really? Really. We love to add a refresh.
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A
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like two kids. Fine. It's a great option.
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B
Okay, here's another question. Favorite hybrid mid side SUV for two kids.
- [30:37]
A
Well, I would love to say the Ford Explorer, but they took away the hybrid. So there you go. Like, yeah, it used to be a hybrid. And then they're like, no, not anymore. Okay. I think, I mean, there's not a ton of options still. I think the Grand Highlander is an amazing. Or the Lexus tx. I mean, Toyota has incredible hybrids. I'm really, really proud of them. I mean, the Prius has been around since the 90s. Like, they just do hybrids really, really well. So I'd probably say that one.
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B
And. Well, the Telluride is coming out in a hybrid.
- [31:08]
A
And the Telluride and Palisade. Palisade is a hybrid. The Telluride's coming out. And those cars also make good electric vehicles. I mean, they've. I mean, they haven't been around as long, but they are good cars.
- [31:21]
B
Okay, now this person just says kind of jumping off the hybrid thing, what does hybrid car even mean? I'm so embarrassed. I really don't know.
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A
Lol. Don't be embarrassed. It's like such a blanket term.
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B
Yeah.
- [31:31]
A
So this is, this is important. Everyone needs to learn this. So there's like, there's like two kind of three main types of hybrid. Okay. There's the plug in. So the plug in, you plug it into the wall and it gets some pure electric range. It's normally like 15 miles of pure electric range. After the battery runs out, the engine takes over. So, like, it's good for people who have shorter commutes because some of you might drive, you know, 10 miles a day. You could do your entire commute on electric. Like, that's really cool. And then there's what's called an active hybrid, which doesn't plug in, but it has a small battery and an engine, and they work together to create fuel efficiencies. So that would be like the Toyota Sienna. That thing gets 36 miles per gallon. You don't plug it in, it just automatically does it. But the two types of, like active hybrids, there's some that's for fuel economy and there's some that go for performance. So, like, people love to say, like, the Sequoia is a hybrid, which it is a hybrid, but it's not a hybrid.
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C
It's.
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A
It's a hybrid to give you more power, not to give you better fuel economy. So, like, it still gets like, you know, 16 miles per gallon, maybe 19. Probably not. Like, it's not going to give you. It's not that it's not a fuel efficient hybrid as much.
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C
Okay.
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A
So most, most of the time people say hybrids Well, I shouldn't say that. It's either a hybrid or it's a plug in hybrid. I have. Or a p. Hev have.
- [32:46]
B
Or p have. Hopefully that clears things up. What is Liz's car seat plan in a similar boat as her?
- [32:57]
A
Well, we plan to set. I mean, I plan to set a bit settled up as followed. We're going to get her back in the Kia carnival. Okay. We're going to put James in the third row forward facing because he'll be, you know, three and a half by the time the baby comes. And I'm comfortable with it. And yes, that means we're not maxing out. We're facing weight limits. But it's really, really hard to do three rear facing car seats. So I think it's fine to put them in the third row forward facing. And then we're gonna remove one of the side seats of the carnival. And then the seat. The seat we removed, that's where James is gonna be. So he's gonna have like so much legroom and just be like, you'll be able to like kneel there to like fuckle him. And then we're gonna have Sloan in the middle seat rear facing. And then we're gonna have the baby on the other side in a baseless. Or we might flip Sloan and the baby, depending on what I decide to do. We'll make a lot of content around that.
- [33:46]
B
Yeah, I. I currently have. I mean, we kind of have like a lot of car seats because we also have car seats in Maddie's truck. I like the idea of a baseless because then we can really easily just clip the baby in if we ever take Maddie's truck. Not that we will, but his truck can definitely do three across. So that's now the James in the third row. I wasn't. I didn't. I didn't know that was your plan. I thought I was going to do three across, but no, I don't think we will.
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A
I think we'll have more fun doing something else.
- [34:18]
B
Well, with the minivan, it's like I can just like freaking stand in there. Literally. Love it.
- [34:23]
A
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
- [34:25]
B
Okay, what were your first cars? Did you always drive dealer cars?
- [34:29]
A
We've always driven dealer cars. And mine was a Hyundai Santa Fe.
- [34:32]
B
Mine was a Nissan Cube. RIP they don't make them anymore. Love that car. Look it up. It had like a little shag carpet on the front. I loved it. So cute.
- [34:41]
A
It was like such a little toaster car. I was like so jealous.
- [34:44]
B
Such a I loved it.
- [34:46]
A
Yeah. So fun.
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B
And another car that I used to drive all the time, all throughout college because I had a parallel park, was the Kia Soul. Like all my favorites, all my OGs are gone.
- [34:57]
A
I know. So is Xterra gone?
- [34:59]
B
Xterra. I drove the Xterra all the time in high school.
- [35:03]
A
No, I know. It's like so sad. I went into like. I don't know if people know this about me, but like, I went into like a really weird truck phase.
- [35:11]
B
Oh, I don't think people know this about you.
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C
We did.
- [35:14]
B
This is crazy. Okay, so the stories I could tell right now.
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A
So like I. I was a horse girl and I liked country people, country boys. I like one of the country boy. I liked country music. I like, was riding horses. You know, we were spending a lot of time at the farm. I was like, I need to find me a girl country boy. It's like, I want to start driving a pickup truck because, like, I want to be. I was like a 17 year old girl driving a pickup truck. Like, I thought I was so cool. Yeah. Now we had the dealer car, so, like we would get new cars every 5,000 miles. Well, I didn't want a new car. I didn't want a new car. So I would stock the trade ins, the cars that were going to auction. And my two favorite trucks that I had was I drove a 1993 F150. Didn't have air conditioning. Marshall was his name. Loved Marshall. And then I drove a 2003 F250 Powerstroke diesel. And we named him Pony Boy.
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B
Gosh. Oh, I forgot their names. That just like, my dad was like,
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A
what are you doing? I'm like, dad, please. I would like convince him that like, I kind of needed it for like the horses, like, didn't at all like, wasn't hauling the dang thing. But I just loved driving these diesel trucks. Like, I couldn't get enough of it. And I think I liked the. Really? I like, probably just liked the attention I got for sure. Sorry I did. I've come a long way, I'm telling you. And yeah.
- [36:40]
B
And meanwhile, I'm just like, beep, beep. It might need my cube.
- [36:45]
A
No. So like, also, listen, I. When Liz and I were close in high school, we were not nearly as close as we are now, though. Like, we were kind of living different lives.
- [36:52]
B
Yeah, no, we were totally not close at all in college. We were close in high school, but
- [36:57]
A
no, college, like, didn't talk.
- [36:59]
B
No, it was like dinner talk.
- [37:01]
A
I think we were just Kind of in, like, a fight for, like, four years maybe.
- [37:05]
B
And that's another good note that, like, your kids might. Might go through seasons, but it always comes back. Because also, like, when Grayson was a teenager, like, actually didn't like her at all. Like, she was so mean to me, and now I love her, and we have a wonderful relationship.
- [37:19]
A
Yeah, totally. It's just gonna happen.
- [37:21]
B
It's gonna ebb and flow. Can I tell the arrow story?
- [37:25]
A
No. Okay. No, you cannot. Okay, I think you've told the story.
- [37:31]
B
I probably have. This is, like, so of that time of your life.
- [37:36]
A
Okay, fine. Tell it quickly and tell it in the least embarrassing way possible.
- [37:39]
B
Okay, so Kelly was an excellent archer. Actually.
- [37:44]
A
No, I actually. I'm telling you, I'm so many layers,
- [37:47]
B
I'm gassing you up. Like, she was. She was an excellent archer. And she had this arrow that had broken, so it was just like. There was no point on it, but it had, like, little. The little tails, little flags on the end. And since she was after a country boy in her truck, she wrote her name and then her phone number. And the idea was, if she saw a cute country boy, she would throw her arrow into the back of his truck.
- [38:15]
A
Honestly, genius, you got me one for my 16th birthday. Shut up. I did.
- [38:20]
B
You made me one? Yeah. And then my driving instructor was like, that's really dangerous. You should not have that on your dash. That's a projectile.
- [38:27]
A
Come on, Kelly.
- [38:28]
B
I know, I know. And then when her and Tyler started dating, it was like, a very simple.
- [38:35]
A
We should have stopped.
- [38:36]
B
I wish you would have stopped, like, ceremonial thing, because her and Tyler started. She's like, what, 17? 18.
- [38:42]
A
18. Yeah.
- [38:44]
B
She gave Tyler her arrow, and they've been together ever since. She never had to throw it in the back of a truck. It's a love story. Cow. Yeah.
- [38:55]
A
I hate that story. I was embarrassing. I was just a girl with phases. I didn't know time. But I had micro hobbies. Even back then.
- [39:05]
B
You've always had micro. You're always thinking of the next thing you're going to do, that, like, it's going to be groundbreaking, get you some attention. Like, you're always. That's good.
- [39:19]
A
Yeah. I was, like, a little boy crazy back in, like, my high school days. Like, I just. Because I think the problem was, like, if you want to, like, sure. Like, let's just talk about my pubescent years. Like, literally. This is so embarrassing, but, like, between, like, sixth, seventh, and eighth grade, or sixth and seventh. In eighth grade, I was awkward. I was five, 10, I weighed 100 pounds. I had braces. Like, I was not cute. And then between eighth grade and freshman year, I had a major glow up.
- [39:50]
B
No, Kelly was hot. Kelly was, like, really hot.
- [39:52]
A
In high school, Like, I finally had my glow up, and now I was like, oh, now, because my whole life, people would tell me, oh, you look like a model. You're so lucky to be told you look like a model. And I'm like, no, I don't. All the boys are 5 4. I'm towering over them. Like, it was so horrible. And then finally, I came into myself. The boys got taller, and then they liked my height, and that's what happened. And then Tyler scooped me up at 18. And my new joke with Tyler is, like, you know, whenever he complains about me, I really, like. Like, you've literally had custody of me since I was 18 years old. Like, like, in a couple of years, you are going to have been with me more than you have been without me. Like, any issues I have.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You raised me.
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B
You need take a look. Good, long look in the mirror.
- [40:40]
C
You can't.
- [40:41]
B
You can't blame Craig for everything.
- [40:43]
A
Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, we started dating at 18. So what? When I'm 36. I'm 32. That'll be the halfway point. Like, at what point do you take the responsibility?
- [40:53]
B
Yeah.
- [40:54]
A
So that's. He hates that joke, which is why. So I'm really diving in with it lately.
- [40:57]
B
Yeah, for sure. I think, like, since we have found our way to the Arrow story, it's time to stop the Q and A. I totally agree.
- [41:04]
A
I'm so scared of what else could be there. And that's fine because I'm gonna, like, totally 180 this combo because I've got some industry news where I spill the hot tea going on in the auto industry.
- [41:14]
C
Okay.
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A
And they're actually, ironically, two stories from Ford, which is, like, also funny because we were talking about the Ford Explorer lately, and I think it's just kind of a sign that, like, Ford. I'm a little worried. I mean, this was such love, like, as, like, someone who loves Ford. But I do worry they're. I don't say they're in their flop era, but they've just been on, like, a really high because, like, that Bronco came out and, like, changed the auto industry. Like, when that Bronco came out, like, the Expedition redesign has been amazing, and now things are starting to. It's like, well, what's happening to the lightning? Like, what are you doing here? Yeah. And now they're just, why'd you take away the Explorer hybrid? And like now we're just kind of all over the place. So it says, this is a story from Car and Driver. It says Ford's new 2028 electric truck will be fully, will be a fully modern EV for $30,000. Okay. It says after a string of EVs adapted from other projects, Detroit's largest automaker is finally started with a clean sheet of paper. Ford's new electric truck coming in 2027 could be named the Ranchero, which first of all is a horrible name.
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B
Yeah, I don't like that.
- [42:22]
A
What's the, what's most important is that it's Ford's first vehicle on its new dedicated EV platform. So they're calling it a universal electric. It's going to be the first product on the universal electric vehicle platform or the uev. But it's going to be a mid size electric pickup truck. This will be the first ever modern ground up dedicated ev. No one's seen this mid sized pickup truck. First sales will come out in 2027. So to me this is kind of giving. Like have you heard of Slate Auto? We've like talked about them a little bit. They're like the Amazon backed brand and it's just like super cheap electric cars. Like there's really nothing to it. There's nothing to it. So I think they're kind of trying to do that. I just don't know why they're going for like the mini truck of it all. Like that just feels like an interesting approach. So anyway, I just think it's more like I'm fine for an electric, I'm fine for an affordable electric car. It's just think like it's like why are we always going for trucks?
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B
It feels like the last one to
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A
hit and like a small truck. Like, and like if the lighting wasn't as successful, like why would we go smaller? Not as good. Just to be at a lower price point. Like I just still don't think you're gonna get a lot of biters on that one. Not would not be my pick. Okay, but then here they are on. This is an article from the drive and it says Detroit automakers want to bring back sedans. Will they last this time? The big three seem to all be coming around small cars again at the same time. But will they commit or will this be another passing fad? So, and then they go on to say like, so the big three is Stellantis, General Motors and Ford. So Farley, Jim Farley, who's the CEO of Ford, says the sedan market is very vibrant. It's not that there isn't a market there, it's just we couldn't find a way to be complete and profitable. But then they're saying that they're going to start investigating the segment. Chrysler says after almost a decade from removing the Chrysler 200, their CEO teased a sub thirty thousand dollar small car that would be beautiful and fun to drive. And we've got something from General Motors. General Motors president said that he would kill to have a hybrid electric sedan and that GM is working on how to do that. So do you think. Because if you are like not up on the market, like manufacturers have been removing sedans left and right, like they're just not making them anymore. Like Ford used to have the Taurus, the Focus, the Fiesta. I think they're literally not making any of them at the moment. Like, I think there's actually not a new one to be made. Chrysler's not making theirs. General Motors used to have like the Malibu, which maybe they're still making. Honda has the Accord and the Civic. But like it used to be like every manufacturer would have like three sedans and like now it's just like sedans are so soft. Everyone's the SUVs, but now everyone's affordable cars. So it's just kind of interesting.
- [45:20]
B
Where do I land on sedans? Sydney loves a sedan and she does.
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A
I land on, I don't know the difference between like a small SUV and a sedan. To me, like they just do the same thing and I would prefer to sit up a little bit more. Yeah, I think that SUVs are easier to get in and out of like a sedan one and they totally work. But like a sedan is hard for like loading kids in and as people age, like it's hard for them to plop down there.
- [45:50]
B
So like it is, yeah. I mean depending on your height.
- [45:54]
A
But I'm just like Nissan, even like Nissan Juke versus like Nissan Altima. Like I'd probably rather have maybe, I don't know. I would probably rather have a small suv.
- [46:06]
B
I. Yeah, I agree. I think the Juke's a bad example because it jukes a small car. But like, yeah, the juice about example Soul. Like I would rather have a Kia Soul than totally a Kia Optima. They don't even make either one of those anymore, I don't think. But it.
- [46:20]
A
No, they don't. So just kind of interesting. So that's your industry news. Let's just kind of all Think about sedans. I'd love to know where you guys are at. Like, do you want to see more sedans? I'd rather see a sedan than a small electric pickup truck. I. I'll say that.
- [46:31]
B
Yeah, I agree. I don't know. I don't think it's really going to come across like our desk.
- [46:38]
A
I don't know.
- [46:39]
B
I, I am so ingrained in the family market that like, I can't really.
- [46:43]
A
I, I do get a lot of requests to do sedans, but I don't know how many are like die hard sedan people or how many just think or how many are not aware of all the great small compact SUVs on
- [46:55]
B
the market or like, yeah, okay. You know? Yeah. Okay. Well, Kyle, are you ready for ditch the drive thru where we give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner rut?
- [47:07]
A
I sure am, Liz.
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B
Here's what I'm making tonight for really me and Maddie and Sloan and like, we'll. James will probably get a quesadilla tonight. It's kind of one of those, but it's a Lenten one. It is a no meat, very easy recipe. I got this from Trader Joe's. Five items or less, actually. And it's like one of my favorite ones. We haven't talked about her in so long. You get the frozen Argentinian Argentina shrimp from Trader Joe's. Doesn't have a tail, but it's like cooked, so all you have to do is like thaw it and then like heat it up. Essentially. You get the everything but the elote seasoning from Trader Joe's. You get the corn salsa from Trader Joe's. You get tortillas. If you like any other, it's shrimp tacos, if you are catching my drift. If you like any other toppings, get those. You're gonna thaw out your shrimp, Just run it under some water for like a few minutes and then it's ready to go. You're going to put some olive oil on the shrimp, cover it in the everything but the elote seasoning, pop it on the stove for a few minutes until it's. It's is done, and then throw it in the tortilla and top it with the corn salsa. It is so unbelievably good. It's one of those things. This is always how Trader Jones 5 items or less works. Like, you're like, okay, how good can this really be? And you're like, oh my gosh, that's amazing.
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A
Yeah, I've had This before it is unbelievable. That elote seasoning is, like, a must get. I put it on everything. Like, if we're making corn on the cob, I'm doing. I'm using the elote seasoning. I used it the other day on something. Oh. I was just making, like, pulled pork nachos, and I just, like. I did some corn on the side. I put on the corn. It's. Yeah. So tasty.
- [48:48]
B
And their corn salsa has, like, a really great flavor to it. It's very sweet. It's. This is not a spicy taco recipe by any means, so, you know, do what you want with that. Excellent. It's what I will be making.
- [48:59]
A
Yeah, that sounds tasty.
- [49:01]
B
We're skipping fish fry tonight because it's always the first one of lunch. It's like. It's a zoo. And I just. I'm not.
- [49:06]
C
Not.
- [49:07]
B
I'm not partaking.
- [49:08]
A
We are going. I still haven't eaten fish yet, so I think I'm just gonna pass on that for now. Yeah, I'm just gonna eat before. I don't know. I'm just still having a lot of food anxiety around fish at the moment, so I'm just kind of, like, choosing my own adventure.
- [49:21]
B
Okay.
- [49:23]
A
Yeah.
- [49:23]
C
Okay.
- [49:24]
A
It's just, like, I just, like, don't want to, like, test that, like, with four kids at, like, a. In, like, a parish center. You know what I mean? And I just, like, didn't get around, like, like, testing it in a safer area.
- [49:34]
C
Yeah.
- [49:35]
B
Okay.
- [49:36]
A
So all's good. All's good.
- [49:39]
B
All right, guys.
- [49:40]
A
Well, that's our episode.
- [49:41]
B
That is our episode. So thank you so much for listening to the carpool podcast. Have a great weekend, and we'll talk to you next time.
- [49:47]
A
See ya. Bye. Thank you for listening to the carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz. Make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode. And if you enjoyed riding with us, tell everyone. Everybody you know, there's room in the car for everyone.