B (2:00)

The air, it's uneasy. So I would. I agree. I'm a little bit on edge, too. But, you know, I've got a half day of child care. You're gonna pick. You've Got a half day of child care, so we're gonna get a podcast recorded and that's the best we can do. So here we are.

A (2:15)

Yeah. But anyway, we had such a fabulous weekend. Well, I mean, let me, let me back up. I've been here, there, everywhere. First of all. Yeah, Iowa, amazing. Chicago, amazing. Those of you who came to my Capital One event in Chicago, love you with my whole heart. Thank you for showing up. That was so fun. And Capital One was like, so impressed that, like, I had all these people show up. So I really appreciate you. And then I had to drive four

B (2:45)

hours by myself home from Iowa and tried listening to my decluttering book. Oh, my gosh. I know this. So funny. I hated it. I'm ten chapters in.

A (2:56)

Okay.

B (2:56)

And I'm going to tread lightly here because so many people, like, adore this book. Lifechanging. Adore this girl. I don't think I'm the right target for the book. Someone DM me it. I was feeling like, okay, I'm going to download it. Like, I just blindly trusted. I did no prior research. She reads I. You know, it was an audiobook too. So she reads the forward and it's like, if you cannot go to bed with a dirty kitchen, close this book. It's not for you. And I'm like, okay, I can't go to bed without a dirty kitchen. Like, I can't go to bed with dishes in the sink. So I think that. I think I am a little bit more.

A (3:36)

You're more advanced.

B (3:38)

I don't want to say advanced, but I just don't. I think I'm a little bit more type A maybe. I guess. I don't know. I. Maybe I'm just. I think I. Yeah, basically the first. I'm ten chapters in. Like, I am giving this thing a freaking go. A four hour drive. And the only thing she's done so far is load her dishwasher and run it every single day. And I'm like, this is not groundbreaking to me. I do this.

A (4:02)

I. This is my problem with, like, non fiction books and like, help books. Like, I'm sorry, at their core, there are word salads. No.

B (4:11)

And it's a total word salad. She said, okay. I'm like, okay, I get it. You load your dishwasher, you run it every day. She's saying it in a different way in every chapter, but they're saying like,

A (4:20)

the why behind it and like what that means and signify.

B (4:23)

So then I'm trying to, like, I'm really trying here. So I'm like, okay, so I already load my dishwasher every day. Like, what is my, what is my load my dishwasher every day that I need to. Like, I load my dishwasher every day. I clean my kitchen every day. I vacuum my floors every day. Like, I'm already doing all these things every single day. I really can't add another thing to do every single day into my rotation. I need a system. So I'm not getting systems from her. I'm getting, like, bare minimum on how to start maintaining your home from her.

A (4:51)

This is such a hot take for

B (4:52)

you to, like, say, I know, and I don't want to be hateful. Like, I wanted to, I bought it. Like, I wanted to learn something and I wanted to like it, and so many people love it. I, I, she sounds, like, very, I don't know, she just, I, I can't relax when my kitchen is a mess.

A (5:10)

So I think you're too type A for it.

B (5:12)

Yeah, maybe.

A (5:13)

Yeah. That's interesting.

B (5:14)

And I didn't know that other people could do that. You know, you just, you only know the way that you can. And she describes in the book, she's like, I can't believe that some people would load their dishwasher every single day. And I'm like, I can't believe you can't. So we're just not. Our brains don't work the same way. I need to find someone. I need to find someone to aspire to, I guess.

A (5:32)

Sure. So I actually can go to bed with a dirty kitchen. That's like, something crazy about me. That is crazy because I strongly prefer to clean the kitchen with, like, a coffee in my hand. And, like, the more. And like, my, like, morning just, like, vibes. I would rather I don't go about my kitchen disgusting. Like, I put the food away. Like, I, like, I will not close it. I'm, I mean, sometimes I do, but, like, I'm just letting you know. Like, I like to clean in the morning.

B (6:02)

I like my coffee to be, like, watching my kids or, like, playing, like, either playing with them or, like, sitting with them while they're playing. Like, that's how I like to enjoy my coffee. Like, I don't. I did have to unload the dishwasher this morning with my coffee, and I was like, this sucks.

A (6:18)

We're so different. No, I, I like to, like, do dinner, tidy, and then, like, I like to go from beds to, like, tv to books to relax. And then, like, when I put the kids asleep, then I don't want to go to the kitchen.

B (6:29)

So then I'm like, I don't want to do it, but I can't relax until that's done.

A (6:33)

See, I have no. I have no qualms with that. What's something I can't relax until I.

B (6:38)

Like, when I was sick with the flu and I didn't even go downstairs for several days, I was like, maddie, you have to go clean the kitchen. Because I know it's dirty, and I can't go down there and clean it.

A (6:48)

Oh, this is very interesting.

B (6:49)

Still out? Yeah.

A (6:52)

No. I don't know. I don't really have, like, a. I mean. And I. And I'm, like, a neat person. Like, I do like to have my house clean, but I can always go to bed. Maybe you're just not tired enough.

B (7:03)

I think I'm definitely tired. I've got, I think, two kids that don't sleep through the night. Well, one kid that wakes up, and I'm pregnant. Anyway, speaking of. Oh, did you want to go through your weekend?

A (7:15)

No, I think that's it. Here, there, everywhere.

B (7:17)

I was gonna say, speaking of, like, having, you know, kids and being pregnant, I was on a walk the other day, and I was pushing my double stroller. Pregnant with. With the puppy. It's quite the sight to see. And this older couple, like, stopped driving and rolled down their window to, like, make a comment at me, like, oh, your hands are full. And, you know, you kind of feel like you've heard it all. Like, enjoy this time. Oh, your hands are full. You must be busy. What? You hear all of the things. And I heard something from the man that I have never heard from someone before, and it's given me such peace, and it was, like, such a little side comment backing up before I get to the comment.

A (8:00)

My.

B (8:01)

I. The bane of my existence right now is my landscaping. I hate pulling wheat. Like, I don't know, who's supposed to mulch, who's supposed to pull weeds. Like, Maddie works all the time. He's doing Marine Corps stuff. I. With kids, or I'm working and I'm pregnant. Like, what. When is all this stuff supposed to get done? And also, I'm cleaning the kitchen every night. So it's like, when is this stuff supposed to get done? And it has really been bothering me. Like, I. Like, you know, I want to have a nice curb appeal, whatever. And I'm. I just. I feel like I'm, like, that is just an area where I feel like I'm drowning and I don't know what to do. Anyway, back to the comment, the man doesn't know, like, I'm not by my house. He doesn't see my house, he doesn't know who I am. He doesn't know where my wheat. Like, he doesn't know that I have weeds in my yard. And they, you know, they're like, oh, you must be busy, blah, blah. I'm like, oh, yeah, we got number three on the way. They're like, oh. And he goes, no, go mow your lawn and pull your weeds too. And it was like such a. He almost like gave me permission to like, allow myself that, like, in this phase in my life, I'm going to have weeds in my yard and my landscaping is not going to be pretty. It will be eventually, but, like, right now it's not going to happen and it's not a priority and it's not important. And I just, I literally felt like this, you know, 75 year old man, like, saw me to my core when he said that comment. Because no one talks about the weeds and no one talks about your landscaping and maintaining your yard. Like, no one talks about this. I know. And I was like, thank you for seeing me.

A (9:30)

I love him.

B (9:31)

And then Tyler came over yesterday to help us with a home project and we were talking, I told him the comment and he was like, you know, Liz, just like. Or maybe. No, it was Maddie who said this because I was talking to both of them and Maddie said, you know what? Just like you and Kelly said on the podcast, it's not our yard summer. And I'm like, you know, it's not.

A (9:50)

It's not our cover. That's. No, that's so true.

B (9:55)

So it's not always about, like, being pregnant and like not, you know, feeling your best or looking your best. Okay. It's not my summer. It's not my yard summer.

A (10:02)

It's not your yard summer. It's not your summer to have that yard.

B (10:05)

No.

A (10:06)

And that's.

B (10:06)

And that's okay. It's very freeing, actually, because it's. I know this is not who I am.

A (10:11)

Then you can stop chasing something you're never gonna get. It's just not your summer and it's not your yard summer.

B (10:17)

Exactly. And it just gave me such peace and such freedom. I can't even, I can't even tell you. And it's clearly been really weighing me down.

A (10:27)

So you just never know. Kindness is so important.

B (10:33)

You know what? It is so important.

A (10:36)

I. Liz, I know. That's why I said it like that. And I, And I kind of teed you up to tell your story.

B (10:40)

Oh, I didn't. I didn't want to. Like, well, this literally isn't even me bragging, because I did the absolute bare minimum for someone. But I was entering a coffee shop, and this lady was walking out, and she had, like, her hands full. So I open her. Open the door for her, and it's like, a double door. So, like, I opened the first door, and I said, wait, let me get the second door for you. And she was like, thank you so much. And I'm like, yeah, no big deal. I stand in line, I order my coffee. I ordered my breakfast. As I'm about to step my car down, she comes out of nowhere and, like, puts her card on the tapper before mine. And she's like, I'm paying for you because you were so nice to me for no reason. And I'm like, I literally opened two doors for you. No, and it really. I was like, okay, maybe it's because I'm, like, pregnant, but, like, I expect people to hold doors open for me, like, all the time. Or maybe. I don't know. I ex. I would expect that kind of treatment.

A (11:37)

I expect the door to be open for me, like, especially, like, if there's, like, a man. Like, I'll wait if you're in front. Like, I'll wait. I'm not gonna even reach for the door.

B (11:45)

Yeah, we're gonna play chicken here. And so that kind of hit me, because I was like, did she? I would. It wouldn't have had a second thought of a stranger held the door open for me. I would have been like.

A (11:59)

I mean, I would say thank you, but, like, that's what I was saying. Like, how bad of a day could she have had? Yeah. Or, like. I mean, it just.

B (12:07)

Or week.

A (12:08)

And, like, that made her whole day. Enough to go buy you coffee.

B (12:13)

She went to her car, dropped her stuff off, waited in line. Clearly, there was, like, three people in front of me. She waited for me to order, and then, like, stepped in.

A (12:23)

No, it was so. It was borderline, like, unnecessary.

B (12:26)

I felt bad.

A (12:28)

I know.

B (12:28)

I was like, I would have just ordered a coffee if I knew you're gonna do that. Like, I ordered breakfast, too. So anyway, we can take from this

A (12:38)

is, let's all buy coffee for the person behind us this week.

B (12:42)

Yeah. I never know the proper way to do that, though.

A (12:47)

Well, I know. And sometimes they're like, oh, they got a lot of food.

B (12:49)

And you're like. And then they get $45 later. What could we do? That's like a Garrett like, what could we do?

A (12:57)

I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do that.

B (12:59)

I think you maybe you just, like, commit to doing it once, and you're like, okay, it just might be kind of a lot.

A (13:05)

Or, you know what I. You know what I'm gonna do instead? I have a Starbucks gift card. I'm gonna go to Starbucks and buy my coffee, and then I'm gonna tell the barista to keep the gift card and just apply it to as many people as behind me as she can.

B (13:15)

Oh, okay. That's a good idea.

A (13:16)

It's like a 25 gift card. So it won't get very far.

B (13:19)

Yeah, that's a good idea.

A (13:20)

That's. I think that's like. I think that's, like, a really easy way to do it.

B (13:24)

Yeah. If anyone has any ideas on ways you can just, like, make an. Make, like, a small impact and, like, help a stranger, pay it.

A (13:33)

Because enough of us make a small impact, the next thing you know, we've made a big impact.

B (13:37)

And sometimes you don't need to spend money. You just need to hold two doors open for someone. Totally, totally.

A (13:42)

Totally. Dude.

B (13:43)

Return. Like, if a mom. If you're not. If you're out without your kids and a mom needs to go return her car, return a card for it, or you want to know, that's, like, the greatest thing you can do. Someone did that to me.

A (13:53)

Someone did that for me this week too.

B (13:55)

The breath, the. The. The weight that is lifted because you're. You're thinking about it constantly. Okay, I gotta load both the kids. I'm gonna unload these, and then how am I gonna get the cart return?

A (14:05)

Maybe we should just do, like, a kindness challenge. Like, maybe I'll work on that. And it could be like a. Hey, this. We're just being kind every single day.

B (14:12)

Oh, that's a cute idea. And look for opportunities.

A (14:15)

And we're just looking for opportunities. I just think. Not just like. Like, I just think sometimes we get really engulfed in our own lives. We forget, like, just how far, like, a small act of kindness can go. And then you can build on that. Because, like, if you're kind to somebody and then they're in a better mood than they're kind to somebody, the next thing you know, it's like. Like. It's like a wildfire. Like, it just gets lit on fire.

B (14:35)

Yeah. We could solve, you know, all of the anger in the world.

A (14:40)

I sometimes feel like. Like, especially when I've been traveling more for some reason when people travel, I feel like people are just like, so in their own world.

B (14:50)

Like,

A (14:53)

and something that I. That always, like, really unsettles me is that, like, theory that, like, if you saw something bad happen, like, you would just not do anything. You would just watch it happen.

B (15:03)

Yeah.

A (15:03)

You know what I mean? And I always try to, like, kind of break up. This is. I don't know how to word this, but, like, I always try to, like, break the fourth wall when I'm traveling. And like, I try to, like, just like, be a per. Like just have, like, talk to people. Not in an annoying way, just like, in an acknowledging kind of way. So, like, whenever I, like, am sitting down to take someone on the airplane was like, hi, how are you? Like, I just say that.

B (15:28)

Yeah.

A (15:28)

Like, we're not gonna talk. Like, I'm gonna break the silence.

B (15:32)

Yeah. Because it's crazy the amount of times you'll just like, sit next to someone for three hours and never even acknowledge that they exist. Except for when you got to go to the bathroom.

A (15:40)

No, like, I. I don't want to talk on the plane. I don't want to talk. I want to plug in. But, like, to not even acknowledge the kind of an. It's insane behavior.

B (15:48)

Yeah.

A (15:49)

And like, I'm always just like. Even when I'm like, waiting. Like, this sounds so crazy. But, like, at. When I was coming back from Chicago, our. The gate to the St. Louis flight, like, got changed a couple times. It got delayed. It was confusing, and like, I could just tell that everyone was, like, confused and, like, looking at the screen, looking at their phones. So then I was like, hey, who's going to St. Louis? And like, four people raised their hand. I'm like, okay, I'm going to St. Louis too. I'm going to go up there and ask if this is a St. Louis flight. Like, I just, like, spoke to people.

B (16:18)

Yeah.

A (16:18)

People are like, freaking out.

B (16:20)

Like, you're like, you're talking at an airport.

A (16:22)

I'm telling you, people are so weird at airports.

B (16:24)

Well, it's a high. I think, like, a lot of people have a lot of anxiety around travel and airports and airplanes in general. Well, I know you do. That's. I'm. A lot of people do. So I would think. And then also it's like high stress situation and you'd never know, like, did someone's flight get canceled or their bags get lost? Like, there's so many things that could go wrong and do go wrong every single day when people are traveling. So it's just like, not the best place to be. But.

A (16:55)

But also says, I'm just like, I am going to be a person at the airport. Like I'm, I'm not going to leave all my social skills at the door. I'm not going to leave them all at the security checkpoint. I'm going to bring that into the gate.

B (17:06)

Okay. I like it.

A (17:07)

Yeah.

B (17:08)

I'm just letting you get lots of practice with all the travel you do nowadays.

A (17:11)

Don't even get me started. I know I have so much travel.

C (17:14)

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B (19:48)

Quinn.com carpool Anyway, in an unrelated I don't have a great segue for this, but I want to talk about Dancing with the Stars for a second.

A (19:57)

I'm on the edge of my Dancing

B (19:58)

with the Stars news like coming out, which is so exciting.

A (20:03)

So Hulu had their like State of the Union, I don't know, whatever you call it. And they were just like announcing all of their new shows. First of all, it sounds like they're expanding Mormon wives to like the OC but like no one's Mormon. So people are saying like they're just trying to do like a Real Housewives but with younger moms, which I think that's a good.

B (20:22)

I think I kind of, well, entertainment purposes. I like it as far as the drama and just like really stretching parents to young children. I don't like it totally.

A (20:36)

I feel aligned. I watched the first season of Mormon Wives. I haven't watched the other seasons.

B (20:40)

Me neither.

A (20:42)

Only because I agree. I'm. I get pitsville from them because I'm like, you have a two year old go home. And I feel like with the Housewives, I'm a big Housewives fan, but it was like, oh, they're in their, like they're in their 50s. Like their kids are fine. Like it's still a little problematic. But to me it's good television. There aren't like children who are. Suffering's not. Suffering is not the right word. But like who aren't affected.

B (21:03)

Yeah.

A (21:04)

So I don't like the reality shows of these moms. I struggle with that. But I do think. I agree. I think if you're thinking about good tv, it sounds like it's a bunch of like influencer moms, which I Find interesting. Yeah, I don't think I'll watch because I'm also just like. I'm like, such a reader these days. Like, I'm just in my book club and, like, I have a book a month to read and it keeps me busy every night.

B (21:29)

Yeah.

A (21:29)

Because I only read about for five minutes a night and then I fall asleep.

B (21:32)

Yeah. So, yeah, you're. But you're booked up. You're booked.

A (21:38)

I'm booked. So much pressure. Did you catch that?

B (21:41)

Because you're reading a book.

A (21:42)

And guys. So much pressure because. So the way my book club works. And I know everyone makes fun of me, mainly my father because it's just two other people.

B (21:49)

Kelly, no one makes fun of you except for your. You and your book club. You guys like to make fun of each other because I hung out with you and a girl from your book club. And you girls just, like, love to act like the world is against you and no one cares. Nobody cares.

A (22:05)

Okay, so we rotate who picks the book and who hosts. So it is my turn coming up to pick the book. My last book, I picked Stinker, the Goddess of Warsaw. I'm sorry, Horrible book. Was not good. But the problem is, like, these girls are readers. So, like, I would recommend, like, the Correspondent, Theo of Golden, like, you know, Frozen River. They've read them all. Like, all the hot, buzzy book club books. They've read them. So then I'm forced to go to, like, the. More, like, indie books.

B (22:36)

Yeah.

A (22:37)

So if anyone has, like, a book club book wreck. I really need a home run.

B (22:42)

Okay. Really bad.

A (22:43)

That's not obvious. That's like, not on, like, the Reese's Choice. Like, those have been done.

B (22:48)

Okay. I don't know how we got on your book club because we were talking about Dancing with the Stars.

A (22:54)

Any. Any excuse to bring my book club.

B (22:55)

Right.

A (22:56)

Okay.

B (22:56)

Maybe I do care. Maybe I am annoyed.

A (23:00)

So anyway, Hulu had their State of the Union and then they announced some Dancing with the Stars news. First of all, they're doing a show called the Next Pro. I'm excited for it. When's that come out?

B (23:11)

Don't know.

A (23:12)

I think I would watch that.

B (23:14)

I think I would like it. I think I would watch it, too. So it will be a competition show to find out who's going to be the next pro on Dancing with Stars. Here's why I like it. They've got to go through this process regardless. And then we're going to fall in love with someone beforehand. And I'm not a ballroom dancer, obviously. I have no Skin in the game. But I love what Dancing with the Stars has done for the ballroom dancing community, and I just think this is going to continue to grow the ballroom dancing community, and I'm just really happy for them. And Robert Irwin is hosting it.

A (23:44)

Oh, I didn't know that.

B (23:45)

He's hosting the show, which now makes me feel like, did Alex really, like, was it rigged? Was his win rigged so he could be set up to be a host on the next pro or a judge on the next pro? I don't know.

A (24:05)

So interesting. And they announced two cast members. Maura, which I know you didn't watch

B (24:11)

Traitors, but, like, I know Mora from Love Island.

A (24:14)

Yeah, but you would have loved her on Traders.

B (24:16)

I'm sure I saw the one scene that everyone sees. But I still never watch Traitors, But I do know who she is.

A (24:21)

Maura and Sierra from Summer House, who's going through, like, some drama right now too.

B (24:24)

Don't watch Summer House, so I don't know who that is.

A (24:27)

Neither do I, but she looks darling.

B (24:28)

Well, and that's what I love. Because I didn't know who I really. I wasn't following Alex Earl. I knew. I knew the name, but I knew nothing about her before. I mean, I knew nothing about anyone. And now, like, everyone, like, I follow Dylan. Now I follow Alex. Like, I'm such stands of everyone. So I love about Dancing with the Stars.

A (24:45)

No, I'm very excited for dwts. It's just gonna be like, I think fall just has the. I don't think it's till, like, look it up, Liz. Look it up on your iPad. When does DWTS come out? If I remember correctly, it's like, it comes out, like, the same time football season starts. Then it's like you have nothing, and then you have everything. It's, like, so stressful. Okay.

B (25:04)

Fall of 2026.

A (25:06)

Fall is so far from now.

B (25:08)

That is all we know because they're on tour through early spring. Ugh. The first Dancing with the Stars Con convention will take place July 31st through August 2nd in Palm Springs.

A (25:22)

Oh, my gosh.

B (25:24)

In case anyone wants to go to that.

A (25:26)

So do you have any other, like, hopes, dreams, predictions for, like, who you'd like to see as a cast member?

B (25:31)

I have no idea. Like, since this is only. Will only be the second season I've watched. I don't really know, like, who's. Who would be a good contender, who they would be looking for. I do think, like, the two. I guess they're not reality stars. They've picked to make sense just because they're like, so popular right now. I did see, maybe it was. Maybe I was listening to the toast, but they did say, or somewhere like, Taylor, Frankie Paul was maybe supposed to be on it, but with all of the drama that she went through, she, you know, it was like part of her contract with Hulu and abc.

A (26:09)

Well, probably she was supposed to be on it because she was going to be the bachelorette.

B (26:11)

Right.

A (26:11)

And then that's kind of like a natural progression.

B (26:13)

Right. But no, she's not.

A (26:15)

That's fine. They could pull another Mormon wife. There's plenty to choose from. But they've already. I mean, I don't know. It's just kind of like. When do you just say enough is enough?

B (26:22)

Yeah.

A (26:24)

Interesting.

B (26:25)

Yeah.

A (26:26)

Well, yes. Excited for that. Excited for that to come out.

B (26:29)

Me too. I'm so excited.

A (26:31)

So what else do we have today?

B (26:32)

I do have some advice questions. I have like three.

A (26:38)

We're just gonna, like, jump right to that.

B (26:39)

Well, one of them is not car related.

A (26:42)

Okay.

B (26:43)

And I kind of like doing those. And this is. This is a really hard one. This is like the prisoner's dilemma.

A (26:52)

The prisoner's dilemma?

B (26:54)

Yeah. You know, like the famous dilemma of like, you know, like, there's like, it's. There's two guys or two prisoners, and if neither one of them confesses, they'll get like a one year sentence. If they both confess, they'll get a two year sentence. And if one confesses and one stays silent, the one that confesses will be free. And the one who stays silent will serve a harsher sentence. But you don't. They can't communicate with each other, so you don't know what the other person's gonna do. It's just. It's like a, like the trolley dilemma. Like save one person or save five people. This is just.

A (27:26)

Okay. You have so many dilemmas.

B (27:27)

You don't know your backpack, like, dilemmas.

A (27:29)

I've never heard of these dilemmas.

B (27:31)

I think I'm only explaining them to you because I think everyone knows what the dilemmas are. It's a famous prisoners. Okay. Anyway. Sorry, that didn't translate. This is a hard decision to make. Hi, Kelly and Liz. Looking for advice from a mom's perspective on a friend situation. My best friend and I both have three kids, ages 5 and under. We have a core group of friends from nursing school. Six girls total that we have stayed close with. Four out of the six girls are married, and we have all been bridesmaids in each other's weddings. Another friend in our Group is getting married on a Sunday in August in San Diego. We all live in Maryland. My best friend and I both have five five year old boys who are starting kindergarten this fall. The first day of kindergarten is the day after our friend's wedding. Meaning if we're in San Diego for the wedding on Sunday evening, we will not make it back in Maryland in time for the first day of kindergarten on Monday morning. There are like no red eyes, no flies they can take. So the question is, do we go to the wedding and miss our firstborn kids first days of kindergarten or do we not be bridesmaids and not go to the wedding so we could be home for our boys? Please help. We are so torn and want to be there for our friend, but also want to be there for our boys on such a big day.

A (28:41)

They're bridesmaids.

B (28:42)

Yeah.

A (28:44)

They have to go to the wedding.

B (28:45)

I was going to say the same. It's not the decision you want to hear, but a sounds like this friend was bridesmaids in their wedding. Yeah. Your wedding day. And I know it's like when you have kids and you're, you know, six, seven years past your wedding, like, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. It is the most important day of this, of this girl's life.

A (29:08)

Yeah.

B (29:09)

And she was there for you. And the first day of kindergarten is going to be sad to miss. The second day of kindergarten is going to, I imagine, is going to feel the same.

A (29:19)

I agree. You will not remember, like, you will not remember that you missed the first day of kindergarten. But like, this would, could like potentially sever your relationship with this girl for

B (29:30)

the rest of your life.

A (29:30)

I agree.

B (29:32)

So you have to, you have to

A (29:35)

go to the wedding in Missouri and you have to enjoy it. It'll be fine.

B (29:39)

And that's one of those things where it's like, you have to make the tough decision and then you have to go there. And if, like, if you're gonna be there missing your son's first day of kindergarten, you got to make a big splash. You got to have fun. Like, you've got to be the friend that's there.

A (29:51)

What you're not going to do is go there and sulk, mo and sulk and mope about it. You're going to move on with your life and you're going to, you're going to be where, you're going to be where your feet are and you're going to have fun with it.

B (29:59)

You're going to be where your feet are. You're going to have fun with it. And your friend is not going to understand the sacrifice that you are giving up. Because when like brides. And I'm, I'm guilty. I was this bride. Like, brides have such blinders on. That's like nothing else in the world is going on except for me.

A (30:14)

Yeah.

B (30:14)

And she doesn't have her kids. I imagine she doesn't have kids, so she's not gonna understand. And like, that's not her fault. She doesn't know have the experience that you have in this, in, in being a mother and a lot changes and your, your perspectives change. So yeah, you just kind of have to do it for your friend because she did it for you and she, you know, she was at your wedding

A (30:38)

and she may understand one day and you'll maybe get be a little vindicated because I, for my wedding, Tyler's sister was one of my bridesmaids and she had a baby 30 days before, like, literally, the baby was born August 31st. My wedding was September 30th. And I was like, we had to come on the party bus. Like, I was insane. Like, and I have sense, like, I would look like my wedding photos. I'm like, oh my gosh, that baby was so small. And I have since gone to my sister in law and apologized. I'm like, I am so sorry. I just like, didn't give you, like, the day should have evolved around you and instead it revolved around me. And luckily it was her third, so she was fine. But yeah, that was guilty.

B (31:16)

No guilty. And like, people were like, yeah, we can come to your, like, we can travel to your wedding if we can bring our kids. And I'm like, no kids. Like, I'm so horrible. Like, I'm horrible. I'm horrible. I'm willing to admit it. I don't want, I don't. Sorry. I don't want kids at my wedding. Like, oh, gross, Elizabeth. Like, grow up. Like, grow up. But like, and I'm woman enough to admit it, like, you do not know what you don't know.

A (31:42)

So no, that was not a very hard dilemma. Sorry.

B (31:46)

I think it's, I think it's, I think it's the decision that they don't like, I, they, they're wrote in because they want us. I think they want us to justify them.

A (31:54)

If you were not a bridesmaid and it was just like a friend from college, I would maybe feel differently. But like, if, sorry, you're a bridesmaid, you're going. I agree.

B (32:03)

Make it. Make it's A make it work moment. Okay, here is another advice question. This is just kind of like an interesting conversation about when to trade in a car and I'm kind of curious your opinions. Okay. Because a lot of the times we deal with I'm having another kid, something's wrong with my car. Like you have to trade it in like it's just time. But this one has a little wiggle room and I'm just curious to hear your thoughts. Hi. I hope you guys are doing well. Mom of three here, eight six and one year olds and longtime listener, I had a general advice question on the timing of trading in a car. We have a 21 Honda Odyssey in great condition with 75000 miles on it. It's paid off and had new brakes and tires in the last three months. I asked ChatGPT when would financially be the best time to trade it in and it advised either before 80000 miles or else hold on to it and drive it until it's over a hundred thousand miles. I don't want to keep it for another five years but wouldn't mind holding onto it for another one to two years. Should I trade it in within the next few months or would it not make a difference if I held onto it for another one to two years? Here's the thing with this is like it is true to a point, like your trade is going to be worth the most that it is today.

A (33:10)

Yeah, yeah. I mean that's that objectively is a fact.

B (33:14)

But you're, you're, you just got new tires, new brakes on it and it's paid off. So it's also like a good financial decision to like not have a car payment.

A (33:23)

How many miles are on it?

B (33:24)

75,000.

A (33:30)

I would probably try to get out before 100.

B (33:32)

Get out before 100. I think that's. But, but she doesn't have to feel like pressured by this 80 000.

A (33:37)

Oh no, absolutely not. That makes no sense.

B (33:39)

Yeah, I think that's kind of her problem.

A (33:40)

I don't even have to feel pressured before a hundred but I do think like the difference between 90 and 100 I think would, would, would affect a trade in value.

B (33:50)

Okay.

A (33:50)

But again by how much? By maybe a thousand bucks. Maybe, maybe a couple hundred bucks maybe. So like it's not, it is a

B (33:57)

really

A (34:00)

difficult, it's very difficult. Sometimes I feel like to advise on this and sometimes I just think the answer is like you know, if you made it another year having a paid off car and like the itch is just strong and you want to scratch it, that's fine. Congrats. You made another year. Like I'm not having a car, but that's awesome. Like I'm just, I am not going to live in a world where it's like drive it till it dies. Because I think that's not realistic. And I would prefer to just. For some people it is realistic, but for some people it's not. And I would just rather some people up for success and celebration on like the little wins that they did made. It's like I'm just proud that you paid off your car because most people, most people never even pay off their car.

B (34:38)

Yeah.

A (34:40)

So that feels like a double. You're already a W in my book. Yeah.

B (34:43)

And she said she wants hold on for another, another one to two years. I think you hold on to it for another one to two years. You don't hit a hundred thousand miles and then go from there.

A (34:52)

Yeah. Or you do and it's fine. You do and it's fine.

B (34:54)

Well, I think she was saying, she was like do I wait until 100,000? But I think she thinks it'll take her like five years to get to 100,000 and she doesn't want to do that. So I think, I think training in

A (35:02)

one to two years would, would be, would be excellent.

B (35:06)

Okay, here's another just sort of general advice question. Advice. Please don't come for me. Kelly.

A (35:13)

Hi.

B (35:14)

Kelly and Liz. Mama 4, Carpool OG and former American Girl. American Girl doll owner. Sorry, Liz. Okay, so she, she's wealthy. I need advice. And while I know Kelly says don't base your purchase on a couple of times a year scenario, I think this is the exception. I'm considering trading in my paid off 21 sienna with a hundred thousand miles for a full size SUV with similar mileage. But I don't want to have a payment. We are a family of six, two kids and boosters. Two and forward facing car seats. But mom often. But my mom often travels with us on road trips. So we in the car. I haven't found a great seat configuration to make everyone comfortable. And we're considering getting a camper since many of our close friends have them and we would like to do more camping. The Sienna can't really haul anything, so looking at an Expedition or Tahoe, I'm afraid to pull the trigger because of the gas. Mileage is so good on the Sienna, but I haven't had a single issue with it. Plus seats, plus seat size wise, full size bench slash third row. Don't Actually seem bigger. I need my knowledgeable co pilots to help me make a decision. Will we all fit better in a full size SUV over a minivan? Is the bench width exactly the same? Is the middle seat larger? Could I do three across in the third row potentially? Please tell me what to do. My husband's ready to pull the trigger yesterday.

A (36:31)

Okay, a couple of things here.

B (36:35)

First things first.

A (36:37)

Yes, I think an act. I think a full. A full size SUV third row bench is going to be wider than the Sienna. The Sienna bench. I'm sorry. The Sienna third row. I'm sorry. It sucks. Like, I just spent a week in it. I installed 30 different car seats in that car. It's like not. It's like the most. It's the world's most adequate third row in the world. Like, it's not doing anything amazing.

B (36:56)

It's. And it's crazy because you're a minivan.

A (36:59)

No, like, you're supposed to excel at this, Elizabeth. Like, I could go on a whole rant about people who own Toyotas. And first of all, I like Toyota. I like Toyota, okay? I like them.

B (37:12)

Just not the people that own them.

A (37:14)

The people like. Kidding.

B (37:16)

I'm kidding.

A (37:16)

Toyota people, Toyota people. Whenever I critique a Toyota, they always have something to say about it. Like they, they're coming for me for critiquing their car. And it's like, guys, I critique every car. I'll critique my own car. Expedition not very attractive. Drive below average. Third row head restraints not removable. Like, there's things I don't like on my expedition. Okay. There's things that aren't perfect about the Sienna. And the problem is Toyota people. And I am generalizing. They get so they have their rose colored glasses on in like such a major way and they just like think that no other car could even compete. And I'm like, well, okay, it's not an IHS top safety pick. Okay. It's all $60,000.

B (37:57)

Yeah.

A (37:57)

And like you can't fit three across, but like, sure, go on. Like, it's the best car in the world. Like, just be for real for a second. Sorry. I know it's. I know that's not the question, but I just like, I had so much Sienna content last week and I got dragged through the coals by Sienna people because I like. Or by Toyota people because I had something to say about the Sienna?

B (38:16)

Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's an interesting that it's like that brand seems to come up consistently, but, But Toyota has loyalists like key. I Don't think Kia has loyalists.

A (38:27)

I agree. Toyota. It's like Jeep people too. Because, like, I'm sorry, Jeep, like people. There's people who just like love Jeep Wranglers. They're like, there's no reason to like, one.

B (38:37)

Totally. And yeah, you're just like, like some brands just carry loyalists and loyalists are just. They are what they are. They're loyal. And I'm like, not. Would never fault someone for being loyal.

A (38:47)

Subaru people are loyal. And then there are people who are like American loyal. Like, they'll only drive a Ford or a Chevy. Honda.

B (38:52)

People are loyal.

A (38:53)

Yeah. So it is just interesting. But I'm just saying it's okay to be loyal and like, call out the faults. So also say back to her, back to her original question. That's fine. If you really think you're going to use your camper.

B (39:10)

Well, they don't even have a camper yet. But let's.

A (39:13)

That's what I'm saying. I. I'm of the mindset, like, before you buy something, can you rent it and like, see if you're really going to use it? Like, how many. Or before you go out and buy a camper and buy a new car, how many trips do you have on the calendar this year? Mm, three, four? Or is there just like one? Like, one for sure. And then like, you might get around to. But then like, life's gonna get in the way. Like, I think you need to be really honest with yourself. Remember, like, you can rent a camper in a vehicle and like, before you go, like, get yourself into massive debt on a camper, just like, are you really going to use it now? If you are, let's live in a world where you are really going to use it. Okay, let's live in that world. I agree with you. I think a full CSV would obviously haul things better and I do think you would have more room for passengers. But I do think unless you go extended wheelbase, and even if you do go extended wheelbase, I do think you're gonna feel like you have a smaller trunk.

B (40:08)

Yeah.

A (40:09)

Forgot about that in your day to day life.

B (40:11)

Yeah. So that's another. So then that. So then that's your day to day. So then we're taking away, we're fixing the problem of your, you know, maybe it happens a few times a year. And now we're getting into worrying about your day to day. And she also mentioned the gas mileage, which is also going to affect your day to day, which is also.

A (40:28)

Now another thing I will say is like, unless you're gonna get the second row bench, I don't know if your mom's really gonna feel like she has that much more room.

B (40:36)

The second row bench. Okay.

A (40:38)

Do I think the third row bench of a Tahoe versus Sienna is bigger? Yes. Do I think that your mom's gonna be like, oh, I've got oodles of space? No, I don't think she's gonna say that. I still think it's gonna be tight. I would also encourage you to look at what booster seats you have back there. Maybe we could talk about, like, slimmer boosters before we just, like, maybe get a new car. So all to say is, like, I don't think it's. To me, it's not worth the upgrade for your mom. Unless you're gonna go with the second row bench. It is the worthy upgrade if you want to start camping and hauling, because, like, obviously, a full sale, that TV will do that better.

B (41:04)

Yeah. Okay. So things to consider. Yeah.

A (41:12)

What do you think about, like, camping? What? I don't really understand camping.

B (41:16)

I think, like, I don't understand hampering. I would. I think it's cool. I think it really gives. Like, I. Like, I would love to be that person. I just don't think I am. Like, I will go on a camping trip, and, like, I will, like, love it, but I will. I'm not gonna buy a camper to go and do it regularly.

A (41:40)

Yeah. I'm just, like, such a homebody.

B (41:43)

You know what I mean? Well, I'm a homebody, and if I'm not a homebody, then I'm like, you know, a crisp hotel sheet. Totally kind of girl.

A (41:52)

Yeah. That's interesting.

B (41:53)

I don't know. I mean, we. We went camping a lot. Well, we. We had. We would go on RV trips growing up, so that was kind of fun and also mostly stressful.

A (42:02)

Totally. It was just like. It's kind of like having a boat, I would imagine. I don't have a boat, but, like, something always breaks.

B (42:08)

There's always something that goes wrong.

A (42:10)

They're money pets.

B (42:12)

No. I don't know if they're money pets, but it's like, when you go on vacation, I think a lot of the times it's to go relax. Like, you're into a beach vacation, you're going to relax. When we would go on our RV trips, every single time we stopped, something new broke. Something wasn't connecting. There was just a new problem to solve. And that's. It's kind of like, you know, take it. Taking hardships on the road. There was just always something new to deal with.

A (42:41)

Okay, are you ready for industry news where I spill the hot tea going on in the auto industry.

B (42:45)

Yum.

A (42:47)

Okay. I'm obsessed with this story. The worst selling cars of 2026 so far.

B (42:53)

Okay.

A (42:55)

And there's one brand who, like, we need to have a discussion about in a second. Okay. The Audi A8, which is a sedan, 201 units. The Jeep Wagoneer S175 units. Things I could have told you that. The Lexus LS 143 units. The Genesis GV 60, 117 units. The Fiat 568 units. The Audi E Tron GT 63 units.

B (43:23)

Oh my gosh.

A (43:24)

The Audi Q6E Tron 9 units. The Audi Q4E Tron 6 units.

B (43:32)

6 units. So I think Audi is who you want to talk about.

A (43:36)

What is going on with Audi? They have. No, no, they're not good. Like, they kind of need to shake it up. Chicago, like kind of in a major way. So Audi, the problem is like, the cars are too small and they're not

B (43:52)

BMWs and like the tech is kind of annoying, I think. I mean, I haven't been to be very. I've not been in one like super recently. But like my experience, my last experience with Audis, it's like the tech's not good.

A (44:06)

No. And like, talk about a brand. This is just my perspective. Like thousand foot view. Talk about a brand that doesn't have loyalists.

B (44:13)

Yeah.

A (44:14)

Like, who's die hard for their Audi?

B (44:18)

I don't know.

A (44:18)

It's such an expensive car. Like, it's a luxury car and they're just like not doing anything for me. I agree with you. I haven't been in an Audi in forever because they also, they haven't changed. It's like, why would I. Like, I have an updated Q7 tour. Like, that's all you need to know about the Q7.

B (44:34)

Yeah,

A (44:37)

yeah.

B (44:37)

And it's luxury.

A (44:38)

They don't do. They don't do like press cars, they don't do trips. They don't like, do anything.

B (44:46)

What's like a, like a. I'm talking like mass market luxury. Not like Lamborghini luxury, but like mass market luxury that you think is like carry. Carries it well. Like carries a lot of weight. Like I would say BMW, like you see about like a BMW is a nice car. That's a luxury car. I don't know. I don't always feel that way about Alexis all the time. Like, I feel like a BMW carries More.

A (45:11)

Yeah, I agree.

B (45:12)

Like a Mercedes.

A (45:13)

BMW and Mercedes are like kind of like the pinnacle. Pinnacles. Okay, I agree of like mass market, but still luxury. And Range Rover I feel like is kind of similar to.

B (45:22)

Yeah, Ranger.

A (45:22)

And then I do think, I mean Lexus is pretty kind of high there, but I, I think there's some. I agree, like Lexus is kind of, I think in between the two. Yeah, just my perception. And then you have like Volvo, Acura, Infinity, Genesis. I feel like we're forgetting somebody. Audi.

B (45:42)

You always seem to forget about them.

A (45:44)

Anyway, so it was kind of interesting.

B (45:45)

That is interesting.

A (45:46)

Okay, and then my next story. Hold on, I need to find, go to my notes. My notes up. So I'm getting like so many texts because our kids school is getting closed.

B (45:58)

Oh, it is?

A (45:59)

Yeah.

B (46:00)

Oh my gosh.

A (46:01)

You know, I might go pick up my kids like right after this just because like was there anything more exciting than when you, than like when the weather started to go and like some kids got picked up early from school.

B (46:14)

Nothing more exciting. And like, especially if you like go take them to McDonald's before, you know, the weather really hits the fan, then you're like pinnacle motherhood right there.

A (46:21)

I know. So I really think I'm going to just like go pick them up early, you know, just for the vibes. Okay, so this was an interesting story. It says this from car dealership guy. Negative equity nears record high. Edmond says nearly one third of buyers owe more on the trade in than the value. Nearly one third of consumers trained in vehicles for their next vehicle are carrying a near record amount of negative equity of $7,183. A new report from Edmond shows that the average negative equity record in Q1 was the second highest for any quarter. The negative equity is being brought onto the negotiation table on trade ins for a significant portion of buyers. Today, 30% of new car buyers had negative equity trade ins. And it says 90% of consumers taking out new loans carrying negative equity are extending terms to 72 months and 43% are entering 84 month loan agreements.

B (47:15)

Oh my gosh.

A (47:16)

So negative equity is when you owe more on your car than it's worth and you can still trade out of that car. Like, but that negative equity has to go somewhere. So then what people do is they tack it on to their next loan. And it is a very vicious bad cycle. And I really don't like, you've just got to. Some people have to do it, have to do it because their family grew quicker, their needs changed and some people actually will carry negative equity into a lower priced car to lower their payment. So like they're trying, even though they have to carry as negative equity, maybe they're going down to like a much lower priced car in an attempt to lower their payment. So. And the problem with this is is this, this, there's a whole reason this is happening. This happened one, because people paid way too much money for cars during the post Covid years.

B (48:09)

Yeah.

A (48:09)

And now those cars are being traded in. Number two is they did an extended financing terms and number three, they put no money down. So when you do all of these things, you're paying off so little of your car every month and it's. But it's still depreciate at the same amount of rate. Like just because you're financing it for 84 months doesn't mean it depreciates slower. It depreciates the same amount, but you're paying off less of it.

B (48:29)

Yeah.

A (48:29)

So it's kind of spooksville usa.

B (48:31)

Yeah. No, it's not good.

A (48:33)

And if you're like getting such a new car, it's like my advice is to one, go get your car detailed and that should buy you some time.

B (48:42)

Get your car detailed to enjoy it longer is what you're saying.

A (48:45)

Yeah, like, I just do think that helps because like of course you like, you know, you want a new car because yours is dirty, but like if yours is clean then. Or do you feel a little bit better?

B (48:53)

You feel a lot better. Like professionally cleaned.

A (48:56)

Yeah.

C (48:56)

You feel a lot better.

B (48:58)

And I mean, and also don't, don't underestimate like if you haven't tried it recently, just like going through car wash and truly taking everything out and vacuuming all over. That, that goes a long way as well. Yeah. But a detail will buy you some time for sure.

A (49:17)

So anyway, that's industry news.

B (49:19)

Okay, well, are you ready for ditch the drive thru where we give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner rut?

A (49:26)

Yeah, I have one and I'm sure you have one.

B (49:29)

Actually. No, you can go.

A (49:31)

Okay. So I've, I think I've shared about this here or there, but I just do want to share like something I've been eating weekly that I can't believe how good it is is my chicken crust pizzas.

B (49:43)

Okay. Yeah, no, you've never brought this up on the podcast.

A (49:46)

Let's talk. I don't think I have either. So as you guys know, I'm kind of on like a crazy diet. Not a crazy Diet. I'm just on a. I'm on a diet right now to get my gut figured out. And so I'm not eating a lot of carbs, and I'm trying to eat a lot of protein.

B (49:59)

It's like keto, right?

A (50:01)

It's like keto, but it's not a lot of dairy. It's kind of like a low carb. Paleo, I think is a better.

B (50:07)

Okay.

A (50:07)

So I can have dairy, but like, I'll have dairy in like a condiment sized amount, not in like a bowl of cottage cheese.

B (50:13)

Okay.

A (50:14)

And like, I'm not so. But yeah, but it's kind of like keto, but.

B (50:17)

Keto. Keto, yeah. Keto's like a lot of keto. People eat a lot of dairy, but

A (50:21)

keto people eat a lot of dairy. And I'm trying not to do. But I am doing some dairy. Anyway, it doesn't matter. So I've been making these ground chicken pizza crusts. Okay. And it sounds like so, but like, let me tell you, it is box checking in a major way. Okay.

B (50:38)

So I get through it.

A (50:39)

Okay. I get a thing of ground chicken, a package of ground chicken. Okay. To a bowl, I add a cracked egg, seasonings, and sometimes I'll add like some parmesan cheese.

B (50:49)

Okay.

A (50:50)

Then I smash that all together and then I just take it and I just smash it out on a baking sheet. I tried to make it into a circle, but, like, it doesn't really matter, but I make it pretty thin so it cooks quickly.

B (50:58)

Okay.

A (51:00)

I pop it in the oven 425, about maybe 10 minutes. Okay. So hot oven. Yeah, I'm making thin.

B (51:08)

Okay.

A (51:08)

It's so thin. Yeah, so thin. I pull that out and then I do my toppings. So this is a kind of where it's a choose your own adventure. So I've just done like a chicken Caesar in the past, and then I wouldn't pop it back in the oven, so I would just do like Caesar dressing and then chopped lettuce with more Caesar dressing on top. Primal kitchen. Primal kitchen only. But this past weekend, I just was like, I'm just gonna make a freaking pizza. So I just did marinara sauce, a sprinkle of mozzarella cheese, some black olives, mushrooms, a little bit of feta cheese too. So I am doing some dairy. Popped it back in the oven another like three minutes. It tastes like a pizza.

B (51:46)

Okay.

A (51:47)

I ate the whole thing. It was 80 grams of protein.

B (51:50)

Oh, my gosh.

A (51:51)

And I ate the whole thing.

B (51:52)

Okay. Okay. I would like to. I'M curious. I would like to try it. I would like to try it. As someone who has had, like, a full pizza recently.

A (52:03)

Sure. It is. It's such a good lunch for me because, like, I don't think the kids would like it. But, like, it's. I mean, but they might like it. But I like that I can, like, change the flavor profile. So, like, I could do a Greek, a buffalo, a Caesar, a barbecue, a regular. Like, I can just make these pizzas. And I'm telling you, like, it is so easy, and it's so good.

B (52:24)

Yeah. Okay, great.

A (52:26)

I've been having one once a week.

B (52:28)

Okay, great.

A (52:29)

I look really forward to it.

B (52:32)

I want to try it.

A (52:34)

You should try it.

B (52:36)

I never buy ground chicken.

A (52:37)

I don't either, except to make this pizza crust. Like, I'm telling you, it's smacks. Okay, so that's what I've been making. Tonight we are doing taco salads.

B (52:48)

Fabulous.

A (52:49)

Which we haven't had in a while,

B (52:50)

so those will be good.

A (52:51)

I'm gonna do it upright. You know, I've got cilantro in my garden now.

B (52:53)

Love it. You're so farm to table.

A (52:58)

So farm to table.

B (52:59)

So farm to table.

A (53:00)

I am farm to table.

B (53:02)

No, I don't.

A (53:03)

So we're gonna do taco salads, and then we also have salmon bowls on the menu for this night. For this week. I'm sorry. And then I just have chicken. I have, like, four chicken breasts that I gotta turn into a meal.

B (53:16)

Okay. Well, I've been, like, kind of haunted last night when I was like, oh, my gosh, what if the power goes out? Like, what am I supposed to feed anyone for dinner? I don't have any. Like, I need. I realize I really don't have anything that I could make that doesn't require me cooking or heating.

A (53:32)

That's okay. That's okay. You'll have a. You'll figure it out.

C (53:35)

Did your roast turn out good? You've been.

A (53:37)

You've kind of been.

B (53:37)

Okay. So my roast. Lately, I've been having roast drama lately. My roast did turn out excellent. Here's what I've learned. You have to cut up a roast, and I wasn't cutting up my roast. Like, you have to just cut it up. I don't sear it beforehand. I just put it in. And then I needed more liquid, so I poured some more. I, like, used more like beef stock. And I started it on low, and then it was. I was realizing that I didn't start it early enough, so then I cranked it up to high. And apparently it has to reach 205 degrees in order to the muscles to break down to shred to be able to shred it. So I don't really know what I did differently. Well, I cut it up and I added more liquid and I. I cooked it on high and on low, but then it shredded. But I've just been having. I've been having bad luck lately. And it is a newer air fryer or an air fryer crock pot. A lot of people are like, your crock pot could just be on the fritz if it's old. So also something to look for, to look out for if your crock pot is not cooking the way it used too. And then some people were also like, just put it in your Dutch oven. And I'm like, yeah, that's like so much more farm to table too. I.

A (54:53)

That's just so much more like, you're not just a mom who like dumps and go in the crock pot. It's like, sorry, I have a roast in the oven. Like, there's.

B (54:58)

I'm not a Smith all of a sudden.

A (54:59)

There's so much more interest to that. That's a good point. So, okay, Liz, well, that's gonna be our episode because now I kind of have to get to getting cuz Sorry, my group text is blowing up.

B (55:07)

Everyone stay safe.

A (55:08)

We will be on the. By the time you're listening to this podcast, we will have been on the other end of it. So I imagine we are safe and we're fine.

B (55:15)

God, I hope that's the kind of

A (55:17)

energy I'm putting out there.

B (55:19)

So it happened yet. But like, you're gonna be listening to this on a Wednesday, so we're probably fine. Like, that makes no sense.

A (55:25)

So to review, let's all do something kind this week. Let's kind of like brainstorm. Like, howdy, Audi could come back in a major way and try the chicken crust pizza. Those are your key takeaways from this episode.

B (55:38)

Okay, so thank you so much for listening to the Carpool podcast. We'll talk to you next time. See ya. Bye.

A (55:43)

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