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Welcome to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly.
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I think it's gonna be, like, memory making. Like, these are the. Like, totally.
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We're entering our.
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We're entering our memory make era. Like, I'm sorry, up until now, my kids, no one's retaining any of this.
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And Liz, and she was like, you know what? It's really, really hard, but it's different every six months. You're only ever six months away from, like, a new phase.
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Your mom starts now. Welcome back to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly and Liz. Hey, Lars.
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Lizard. Lizard.
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That's what we used to call Liz in high school. Lizard.
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Maddie calls me Lizard still to this day.
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Does he?
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Yeah, he does. He does. He's the first pair of nice cowboy boots he ever got. What was lizard? He decided to get. You know, you get, like, alligator calf.
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The leather.
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The leather he got Lizard. Because he was like, oh, it's for you.
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Fear. As though it would take a lot of lizards to make that kind of leather.
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That's a little bit about our. I guess it depends on what kind they look nice.
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Remember when I guess we were with, like, Sydney or Grayson and someone goes like, lizard here, and they were talking to you, and George goes, where?
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Yeah, See, people call me a lizard.
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Yeah.
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Speaking of lizards, I really took, like.
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Was it on the last podcast episode we were talking about, like, if you want to be a marine biologist, you know, be good at swimming and study hard in school? Well, I've taken that advice. I have taken that advice to freaking heart because George wants to be. George wants to be. In more or less words, he wants to be a reptile guy on YouTube. You know what I mean? There's this guy, Chandler's Wildlife. George loves to watch him on YouTube. And he just. He. He's. He's a man child is what he is. He's a man child who makes YouTube videos with his. With his venomous reptiles. And I have no ground to stand on to tell a kid he can't be a YouTuber. Like, I just. I simply have to say, right, It's a great. It's a. It's a Great career path.
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Very lucrative, actually.
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So I told George, if you want to be a YouTuber, you have to do really good in school and you have to be a great public speaker. So luckily, George goes to, like, the best preschool and his teacher loves him. And I talked to the teacher and I was like, hey, he wants to really do a presentation with Leo the bearded dragon. And she's like, sure, why not? So last night on. Last night, George and I are working on Canva, and we made a bearded dragon presentation. And he's lathered up. He's lathered up about it. We're practicing, and then he's going to go to his preschool and present it. He was like, do you think we should see if the gym's open so all the classes can come? And I'm like, I think just start with your. With your class buddy. And he was like, well, in a couple of weeks, they're bringing a reptile guy to my school, so I want to go before then because he's going to have way more animals than me. I was like, then we better start practicing smart. And bearded dragons, like, so many fun facts. George and I were looking at bearded dragon facts because, you know, we want the presentation to be engaging, if you will, you know, and we're learning big buzzwords like omnivore. You're to have to spell check the presentation because one thing about Canada, they don't do spell check. It's the most annoying thing in the world. I honestly, I'm not sure I spelled bearded dragon right. But anyway, did you know here two fun facts about bearded dragons? One, do you know they have three eyes?
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Yes, I did.
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Three eyes.
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You told me that.
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Two, they've been around since before the dinosaurs. Iconic.
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Wow. How'd they make it in the dinosaurs?
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Didn't they? That's exactly what George asked.
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I think we have, like, just, like, a lot of questions how. I don't know how we don't have more figured out about the dinosaurs.
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Well, that's what I'm saying. And I was listening to. I haven't done, like, any further research, but I was listening to the Skinny Confidential podcast and they had a guy. I don't remember the guest who. What guest was talking about this, but they said there are people trying to bring back the dinosaurs.
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Oh, yes, I. It was a Skinny Confidential. I was listening to that one and.
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I saw this, the funniest meme, and it was like, my toxic trait is, it's like if Jurassic park opened, I would buy tickets and let me Just be clear. I would. If they opened a Jurassic Park, I would for sure go.
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There's no way it would like happen like it did in the movie.
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Like that's a movie. Like, I would, I would be sad. I'd be there for the grand opening.
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Yeah. Crazy.
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I think there's like a chance they, that we'll see it. Maybe that will be in our lifetime. But like in a lifetime, I think they will bring back the dinosaurs.
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So let's say they're able to bring back the dinosaurs. Sure. I think we're going to be shocked to see what they look like because I don't think they're going to be like we, like we think they are.
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No. They have feathers.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I don't know. We'll see. Stay tuned, stay tuned for Jurassic Park. You know, it's kind of just like all the things that the movies have warned us about. AI were just heading straight into AI like it's not going to take over humanity. Yeah. Bringing back the dinosaurs. Just acting like we've never seen Jurassic Park. Jurassic World. There's a whole franchise, just whatever. So, you know, it might happen.
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The thing with AI that is kind of spooky is, I mean, I think like most like people who are online a lot and like of younger generations are really good at spotting AI but first of all, it's only going to get better. So we're gonna, it's gonna get harder and harder to spot like the amount of like I'm on. You know, we talked about this on the last episode. Like the Facebook algorithm is like so weird. And now I see all these like AI generated images of like kids, like baby, like toddlers on a Runway, like in a funny looking outfit.
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No. And there. Or it'll be like toddlers holding up a birthday cake and they're like, that's.
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The one I saw. That's the one I saw.
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I'd love for you to. Rooster's a happy birthday. And it's like the weirdest thing. And like it's not like the English is not correct but then like generated image.
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If you go to the comments, like Jan is like, what sweet kids. Happy birthday.
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I know.
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And it's like, how precious are they?
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I know. Or it's like I worked so hard on this, this wood, this wooden sculpture. No one will see it. Sad face. And it's like, it's just so. The AI is so obvious. But yeah, some people won't be able to spot it. I think we need to get our parents off. Like once you reach a certain age, you shouldn't be allowed to use the Internet anymore.
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Well, we just also need to check in with, like, I think that part of a continuing education course, like, if you're going to have access to the Internet, like, check in with your grammy and Grampy and be like, hey, let's, you know, this is not real. Like, let's just review what's real and what's not real. Let's learn how to spot things.
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I mean, you're gonna have those scammed, they're gonna get scammed. It's like a genuinely, like, I'm, I'm being kind of sincere when I'm like, when you reach a certain age, you just, like, shouldn't get online anymore because, like, you might get scammed and, like, lose everything you have. So I'm just saying maybe something to look into.
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I'm just saying, call your grandma.
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Yeah, call your grandma.
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Make sure she knows what's up.
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Kel, we have a jam packed episode. And speaking of jam, we just, we just got back from our VIP. Not even VIP, our media. 30 minute media tour with Monster Jam. We got an inside look. We got, we got to get in the monster truck. We got to meet Kayla Blood, the driver of Sparkle Smash. We got to learn a lot about Monster Jam. We sort of drove my Pathfinder into the dome where it is Monster Jam. And it was a very wild and cool experience.
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I'm sat for Monster Jam. Like, I'm Monster Jam's new biggest fan.
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I know I'm here for it.
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I was listening to the. A great podcast on our way to the arena. I want to tell you what the podcast is like, not just turn off this podcast, but it was, it was interesting. And someone sent it to me on Instagram. It's called Flightless Bird Monster Trucks. So Flightless Bird is the podcast name. And they have a monster Truck episode. I don't know. Try to find it fascinating. They interview Gravedigger's daughter. They're teaching. Here's a fun fact for you. Did you know in 2024, Monster Jam sold more tickets than Taylor Swift?
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That's insane.
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No, I'm sure.
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Positive.
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No, but I heard. No, I'm not. But that's what the podcast said. And they. It's like a. It's like a Dax Shepard podcast. So, like, I feel, I feel as though they're. Yeah, like Dax Shepard was on this podcast. So I feel like he's.
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So it's probably legit.
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Yeah. And like, this guy, like, you know, had b. Role played like you could tell he wasn't flying by the seat of his pants. Like, he was. He was reading it off of a paper.
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Okay. This Monster Jam and all, okay. Selling 4.2 million tickets a year, roughly the same number Taylor Swift sold in her 2023 leg of her world tour.
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So that's what I'm saying. Like, they're. You're. There's two camps, and, like, I'm in the. I mean, I'm in the Monster Jam camp. I am so obsessed, and I love things that are, like, for my kids, but also for the grownups. And, like, Monster Jam just really feels like that I haven't even been yet. Let's be clear. I don't go till tomorrow. We just got to, like, meet the driver, see the trucks. But I'm. I'm sad. I'm sad.
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But seeing. So we. We learned. We learned a lot. So they are doing these backflips. They are. They're racing, they're jumping, they're doing these tricks, and they can get 40 to 60ft in the air. What, these giant trucks. I mean, the tire is basically as tall as me. I'm 6ft tall.
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It's not. It's 5ft tall. It's 66 inches tall. The tire.
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Oh, okay. 66 inches tall. It's very.
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It's as tall as some of you. Yeah, it's crazy.
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Some of you. It was. It's crazy. It's worth it. Going to the Monster Jam Instagram and just, like, seeing their tricks. So we got to do that. That was. That was very cool. Content to come. What words. There's some more fun facts you wanted to give about it.
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Yeah. So, I mean, speaking of costs, like, the AV. You know, you're talking close to $250,000 on average to a monster truck.
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Oh, that's how much they cost.
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That's how much they cost. They're a quarter million dollars for one of these monster trucks. And what's so interesting about, like, the Monster Jam franchise, it's, like, that's what it is. It's a franchise. So that came out. Monster trucks have been around for a while, but Monster jam debuted in 1992. And then they started, like, taking these, like, all these independent monster trucks and was like, hey, do you want to join? And so at the event, it's a competition, so it's not, like, canned, you know, wrestling vibes. Like, it is a competition. So they race, they do flips, and they have a freestyle competition where they kind of show off their tricks on the audience, kind of gets to vote. Some of the popular ones you've probably heard of is, like, Grave Digger. He was like, one of the original monster trucks. And then there's Megalodon, which is a shark one. There's El Toro Loco. There's Sparkle Smash. Which fun facts about Sparkle Smash is. I think we talked to Kayla, who we used to try to get Kayla on the podcast.
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Yeah, she was. She was. She gave us a lot of fun information about monsters.
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She was such a. She was such a star. First. You'll see the interview such a star on her Instagram. But she said that Sparkle Smash debuted in the Monster Jam league last year, and it's the first, like, girl one.
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Yes. So she said that it's been, like, this toy, and, like, it's been sort of this, like, imaginary thing, but it's never been its own true monster dream Chuck, until this year. And it's darling. It's a unicorn. It spits out confetti out of its horn. It does all the things. It was everything. So definitely worth it to look up if they're. If Monster Jam is coming near you, because I think this show is going to be unbelievable. And we're just, like, big monster truck people now.
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No, like, the day. So I'm going tomorrow. When this comes out, it will have passed. Sorry, we can't. Like, this is the way the recording schedule works out. But I'm going to the pit party, which haven't been yet. But they were very adamant, like, no, the pit party is worth it. I would almost say, like, the pit party over even the show. Because the pit party, you get to go in, like, on the pit, and you get to meet the driver. See, the trucks, they have, like, kids stuff. But, like, I'm buying Smarkle Smash. Sparkle Smash. Merch. Like, I am sat for Sparkle Smash. I think, like, I mean, that's who we met like, and I liked Kayla, but I. It's kind of like giving Detroit Lions, like, I'm just gonna pick a. Pick a truck, and, like, that's my truck.
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Mm.
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So should I do Sparkle Smash?
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Early contender Sparkle Smash. Well, I think it's fun, too, because I think Caddy will pick Sparkle Smash, and then I think George will pick, you know, probably El Loco. El Toro Loco. And, like, Fred will probably pick Megalodon. Like, that's just kind of what I think is gonna happen. Early picks. Well, and I asked them, I said, is it a true competition, or is it kind of like a skit? And they're like, no, it's a true Competition every time. So it's. It's legit. So, anyway, I think that's enough. I think that's enough to be said about Monster Jam.
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Oh, I'm just like snow. I'm so. I'm so jazzed for it. I really can't wait.
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I know. I'm really, really jealous. I can't. I can't go. We have other plans, but next year they come.
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Yeah, they come every January. And I think it's just the thing we do.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm down.
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I was telling Liz I'm, like, really excited to enter, like, this next phase of motherhood where it's, like, things with the kids. I mean, it sounds more expensive, that phase of motherhood, because, you know, it's like, tickets. Tick tickets. But I think it's going to be, like, memory making. Like, these are the. Like, totally. We're entering our. We're entering our memory make era. Like, I'm sorry, up until now, my kid. No. No one's retaining any of this.
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No, no.
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I think they're in to. I think they build. They build on who they become. But for sure, I read a. I read a crazy stat that, like, 60% of people's first memories are on a family vacation. So it's just, like, doing, like, the. Like, doing something is, like, where the memories get made. So.
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Yeah, hopefully.
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Monster Jam.
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Yes, totally. I think. I think that's. I think that's true. I mean, I think that when you think back on your. Your childhood and things that stick out, you don't honestly think about, like, that one random day at home with Mom.
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Yeah.
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You know, unfortunately, I mean, that's still important, and that cultivates, like, who you are as a person, but it does. It's not necessarily, like, the memories that you have.
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I do wonder, Elizabeth, if, like, our kids will have if their memories will be formed differently, because do you ever, like, you know how we all have, like, a couple of family photos, like, from our childhood? Like, you know, the photo, and it's like, do you actually remember it, or do you just remember growing up seeing that photo?
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Yeah, totally. I mean, the perfect example is that there's a home video on my, like, fourth birthday, and Kelly actually included it in my wedding speech because it's me receiving a Princess Ariel doll for my birthday. And then Kelly convincing me that she should get to play with Ariel and I'll just be the old Eric doll that I already had. And I was like, that's an excellent idea. Let's do it. Neither one of us actually remember that interaction, but because we've seen the home video, we know that it happened. So.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if, like, all the. All of the influx of photos and even more than that, videos that our kids are going to have access to, if that will affect their memories. It might.
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Yeah. Just some things to think about.
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I also think memories are just. I was thinking about this the other day because when Maddie and I were in Dallas, I was driving through, and my heart just felt so warm and happy to be in Dallas. I'm like, gosh, I just have such good memories here. Like, I love being here. And then I was, like, really thinking back on my time with it.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, Maddie was deployed year. I had some very hard co happened. I had some very, very hard days in Dallas. But my overwhelming sense there was joy and happiness. And I think that's kind of the same thing when they're like, you're going to miss this. This phase of parenthood and, like, your kids are screaming and it's really, really, really difficult. But I do think when we look back, we're going to be like, oh, it was magical. It was amazing. Because you only kind of retain the good memories if they're overwhelmingly good.
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I agree with you.
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So maybe that's a good thing to remember, too, is that you're not going to score your kids because they had a bad day.
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Well, and it's also. Tyler and I were talking about that, about, like, now that we're in a new house, like, from our old house. And although I was, like, so ready to leave our house and, like, it was so small and it was so this and it was so X, Y and Z. I'm like, sometimes you just don't know what you got till it's gone. Because, like, it was a simple life. It was wonderful. Like, when I think back on our old house, it feels happy.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I don't even remember. I don't even, like, remember the. The sad parts or, like, you know, the sad parts. But then we're. We're ready to leave.
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You were so sick of it. Yeah. You. You don't. You never know when you're in the good old days, you know, that's.
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Just. Don't know what you got till it's gone. You know? That's why. That's why. That's that song.
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That. That. Exactly. That's that song. And actually that kind of leads me into a. Into a. Sorry, I'm having. I can't think of the word. What's our Fast lane philosophy leads me into fast lane philosophy. I ran into a family friend of mine the other day and she is 10 years older than me and she has older, you know, so she has older kids and she was at the gym, she was working out. Her, her 13 year old son's working out there too. And I'm coming to the gym after just dropping my kids off the child care, feeling 10 times lighter. There's vomit actively in the moment on my pants and you know, she's so put together and I'm just like this hot mess. Express rolling into the gym and I'm like, wow, I, you look amazing. I can't, I can't wait till I'm 40. Like, wow. And she was like, you know what? It's really, really hard. But it's different every six months. You're only ever six months away from like a new phase and she's like, in that phase might also, it will also be hard and be hard in different ways, but it's, it's new. It's something new and different. So like if you're just like really in the thick of it right now as I am, I'm just like, you know what? Six months from now it's going to be a new, it's going to be something new and different. So it just at least, at least you're never in this current stage for very long. And that's like a positive and a negative. It's. What was the ring, Kelly? This too shall pass the same as this too shall pass. Like you're six months away from this being a different stage. And I don't know, maybe that will help you, maybe it won't. But for me I'm like, I appreciated that.
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I agree. You're in the thick of it. You're out of the thick of it. You're back in the thick of it. And every phase and stage has like, has highs and lows.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting when you're like, when you're a mom of like multiple ages of children, like no matter what, even if they're close together or far together, because then it's just like you're always dealing with like these different, just different seasons and then all the kids are different and see, that's the kicky while you're down because it's like, oh, no, I've been through this two times. And then you get like some. Then you get a new flavor and that's like not at all what it's been. Like you're like, oh, so I know nothing. Like, Liz and I were literally talking about the girls or talking about Fred because Fred wakes up so early and just, like, giving me, like, sleep training advice, and I'm like, no, I should try that. You're right. Like, what do I know, right? Like, it's just crazy. I mean, like, okay, that's crazy.
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It is crazy. And it's also been something that I've been really trying to. So I was talking to my girlfriend the other day, and our sons are the same age, and she's like, oh, like, we do. He does not snuggle me. Like, he already stopped snuggling me. James, like, wants me to put Sloan on the ground so I can hold him. Like, there will come a time at night where Maddie will take Sloan and James will just have the biggest smile on his face and come and snuggle into mom and, like, hearing that my friend does not have that experience. That's not promised that Sloan will be that way or any of my other kids will be that way. So I'm really trying to, like, soak in the fact that James is that way. Instead of being like, oh, yeah, it's annoying that he, like, constantly needs to be on me, I'm trying to be like, I want to soak this in because I don't know if I'm gonna get this with another kid.
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Yeah.
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So I don't. I don't really know where I'm going with that. But it's just. It's. It's. It's a thought I had. And this podcast is kind of a moment too. Share the thoughts.
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Have thoughts to have.
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This episode is brought to you by State Farm. You might say all kinds of stuff when things go wrong, but these are the words you really need to remember. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. They've got options to fit your unique insurance needs, meaning you can talk to your agent to choose the coverage you need, have coverage options to protect the things you value most, file a claim right on the State Farm mobile app, and even reach a real person when you need to talk to someone. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Okay, Liz, I need to get into industry news and if you like normally skip this part of the podcast. First of all, that's rude and second of all, you're not going to want to skip this one because this is Juice City. So first things first. First things first. Like this is like gossip. First things first. I was reading the story from Autoblog about. Oh no, sorry, from Motor Trend about Jeep. It says what's Jeep up to in 2025? Keeping busy with a busy new launch schedule. Okay, so a couple of things that are happening for Jeep in 25, they're launching the Wagoneer S, which is a midsize electric suv. Okay, some other things that are happening is coming over to North America is going to be this thing called the Jeep Avenger, which is a subcompact all electric off roading that's you know like we're doing this thing we talked about last time. It's just like all these weird off roading electric vehicles. Okay, cool Name Avengers. A good name. Okay. They're also talking about the Jeep Cherokee replacement. So the Jeep Cherokee was discontinued in February 2023, leaving a glaring gap in the lineup. So the Cherokee is a powerful name with a lot of history, but the company is also culture culturally aware of the drawbacks for keeping the name. If the decision to keep the Cherokee pains will be taken to the market in a context that of the history of the car. Okay, blah, blah, blah. The chair. I'm not saying blah, blah to the content. Just that sentence didn't make sense. The Cherokee replacement will launch this year. It will be available as a hybrid, but Jeep has not confirmed what other powertrain will be offered. So the first thing is like, what's the Cherokee coming back as? Do you think they can keep the name? Do you think they shouldn't keep the name? I don't, I don't know.
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I, I mean, I don't know enough about that to be honest with you. I get the, like, maybe not having mascots be like Indian Native Americans, like keeping the name Cherokee for a car. I don't, I don't see how that would be taken as offensive.
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B
You know, I agree.
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A
It's a very popular car. It's just like it's. Yeah, I don't, I don't really, I don't, I don't really see where, if people are complaining about that, where they're coming for them. I just, I don't know.
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B
And where is it? Like, when is it cultural appropriation? When is it like honoring the name also? Like, is there a world? So if the Cherokee like gives X amount of dollars, like then is it okay? And what is everyone's vibes on the Chiefs lately? Like, are we just over that?
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A
Right, right. Yeah.
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B
Where we at on that?
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A
I don't. Well, do the Chiefs have like a mascot? Like a. I know they're called the Chiefs. I don't know if they have like a, a big fake mascot though.
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B
No, I don't, I don't. I'm with you. I don't, I don't need the big fake mascot.
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A
I don't like, I don't need the big fake mascot. I get that the name Cherokee, I feel like it's like a, a nod. I don't know if someone's like, no, that's not okay. Because of these reasons. Like, I'm open to it. But like off the top of My head. I don't see how that's. How it's a bad name. I think it's a really, really good name, actually.
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B
I can also see how, like, once these manufacturers, like, you know, buy the. And thinking about how much money has been invested in the name Cherokee, how much marketing dollars have gone behind over, over the last decade on a Jeep Cherokee, like for them just to nix the name. I mean, that's. And come up with a new name. To spend that much money to get that kind of like exposure. Crazy. But that's not even the craziest part of the. That's not even the crazy part of this Jeep saga. So then I was reading about the Wagoneer S, which is this electric SUV that no one asked for from Jeep. Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm being sassy today with them. And I remember we reported on a story about a Jeep naming contest. Do you remember the story, Elizabeth?
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A
Yeah, I think so.
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B
Okay. It was a couple of. Let me. It was back in 2022 and they were like, hey, we want to name our electric suv. Can you guys like help us come up with a name? The winner was gonna get a forty thousand dollar prize anyway. They had like fifty million people enter this contest. I think. I think that's kind of what started our.
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A
The Lincoln Edison.
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B
The Lincoln Edison. Okay.
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A
Why is that not a car? Yeah.
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B
Okay, so the name that this is. Sorry. From Autoblock. Because Autoblock followed up. Because then I was like, I want to follow up about this because what happened? What was the name? Okay, so the automaker had come up with a few, but thought the public might want to do better. The name. The new Wagoneer contest asks anyone who cared to visit a website to enter some identifying details, AKA your information. Enter a name idea that could be worth up to a whopping 50 characters. The only limitations in the contest explained, the entries had to be original, couldn't have won a previous award or been previously published, and needed to be a. Suitable for a company. For a company. Suitable for a polite company. Okay. So they had all these things. Anyway, two years later, we're still reading about the wagon your ass. Which was supposed to be the. The. The car that we were renaming. So Jeep's marketing guy is telling the story that a fair number of submissions just told Jeep to keep the temporary name. And they said that so many people said, just keep the wagon erase. Just keep the wagon erase.
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A
No, don't.
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B
That's what they did. And that's what they did. And that's what they did.
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A
That's so annoying.
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B
So talk about a PR stunt. First of all, not a single person told you to keep the wagon your ass because it's a stupid name. Because here's what it is. It's not a Wagoneer. It's not even remotely the same size as the Wagoneer. It's a mid size suv. It's more like the Grand Cherokee L.
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A
That's like so annoying.
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B
And they just kept the name. Marketing stunt.
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A
Didn't have to pay anyone for the name.
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B
Got you there to put in your email to do your little thing to act like you're part of something to keep the name wagon your ass. Which is a stupid name.
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A
That's so annoying because they literally said, oh, the company had some that they liked. Why don't you use one of the ones that you like?
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B
Because they were trademarked. Because. No, because like the names were trademarked. So I'm sure if you did like, you know, like maybe the Edison's trademarked, I don't know.
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A
Yeah, but work.
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B
But like there was had to be something. Or like buy the trade. I know how trademarking works. Like if you love it, go after it. You're freaking Jeep. You have some money.
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A
You have $40,000 apparently that you're going to give to someone but decided not to. That's so annoying. That's such a disappointing end of the story.
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B
The, the article says that they gave it to someone who suggested keeping the name. I'm calling B.S.
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A
Yeah, show. Show that. Show us the receipts.
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B
Well, show us the well and just, just finish the story. So where was the guy going out and be like, I liked. And what does even s even mean? And here's what they're doing. And this is why, this is why I don't think they're gonna. This is why my prediction is they will keep the name Cherokee. They like the Wagoneer because the Wagoneer is a name that's recognizable because they've paid for it to be recognizable. So it's a better business strategy for them to say Wagoneer. As people know the name Wagoneer, you know that that's Jeep. So I mean I, I understand like the business behind it, but boring end of the story is all I really want to say. Boring.
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A
Boring into the story.
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B
And Jeep just needs to chill. Like Stellantis, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram. They're in some hot water. Like their cars aren't selling. Their reliability's crap. Yeah, they just need to stay in their lane. Like what if we made a wrangler that didn't roll over in traffic? What if we started there and then we went to a, a Wagoneer, which first of all, the Wagoneer is not even selling very well because they're so expensive and have horrible reliability. They are very safe. I would remember when the IHS tested the full size SUV's. They didn't. They actually did. Incredible. That was like the shock of the year. Yeah, Wagoneer S. So that's an electric midsize suv. What was the other one called that we liked? The Avenger. That's a good name.
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A
That's a good name. The Wagoneer. The Wagoneer. The whole Wagoneer thing is confusing to me because like Jeep wanted it to be its own brand. So they were like, when we went to the auto, the one of the auto shows when it was like first coming out, they're like, no, don't call it the Jeep Wagoneer because Wagoneer is its own brand now. All over Google. The Jeep Wagoneer. So I'm just, I'm just very, I'm very confused that.
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B
That's right.
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A
The Jeep Wagoneer S sounds like a.
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B
Trim level and it's sounds like a bass trim level.
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A
S sounds like a bass trend level.
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B
Yeah, let's give me like an, Give me like an SX or an lx like kind of like Kia does that. The Wagon, your ass sounds like disappointing. Not. Or even like like what's like the Wagoneer or, or it's like, oh yeah.
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A
I have, I have a Wagoneer. Oh, I have a Wagoneer S. Oh, we have the same car. No, you don't.
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B
No, mine's a blue. Different model.
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A
So, so bad.
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B
Not the vibe for the customer experience. So anyway, that's the story. I thought it was kind of. I thought it was, I thought it was juicy.
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A
Yeah, it was. It was juicy. And also wildly disappointing.
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B
Yeah. So anyway, that's industry news where I spilled the hot to you. Oh, and sorry, one more story. Quick story, just something to talk about. This is from Automotive News. Cyber flop, question mark. Tesla discount. Cybertruck as demand cools.
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A
So we just drove past our, the, the Tesla dealership near my house. I mean there, it's just riddled with cybertrucks.
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B
Tesla is offering Cybertruck discounts just 14 months after launching the wildly styled pickup he predicted. Elon Musk predicted it would compete with gasoline counterparts, parts from Ford and Chevy selling in the hundreds of thousands per year. And it's not doing. It's just, it's just demands cooling. And that's why people truthfully have to chill. People have to chill about like buying I don't know, like these enthusiasts. Maybe it's like an enthusiast thing. It's kind of like the scout motors thing we talked about. Like, everyone just chill. These cars are gonna. Now you can get a cybertruck for a discount. People were paying.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I'm telling you, Hundreds of thousands dollars over for cyber trucks.
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A
And what's crazy too is, I mean, I would need to see some. I would need to see some reports on who's actually buying them. The people who I've seen driving them are those like tech guys. There's like early adopters. Like, I'm not seeing the Tyler Stumpies of the world who actually drive a Ford going over to the cyber truck. Like, that's not happening.
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B
No.
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A
You're not Cyber truck towing, you know, a trailer hitch behind it.
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B
No. And Ford can't even get those people to buy F1 Lightnings. Like the lighting.
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A
Yeah.
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B
They can't begin to buy a lightning.
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A
I think the cybertruck's cool. I personally would probably drive one, but yeah, I don't think that they're going to get those, Those true truck guys converted. I think you're going to get kind of the. Honestly, just like, kind of like nerdier. Nerdier. More city kind of guys. I don't know. I'm just. I'm not, I'm not. I just don't see it. I just think they're cool though.
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B
Yep. I mean, they're cool.
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A
I'm here for that. I'm here.
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B
I think it's kind of a fun car. But I would never buy one. Just like I enjoy them. I enjoy looking at them on the road still.
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A
Yeah, I would feel very safe.
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B
You know what it is? You know what? You know what's fun about the Cyber truck is it's the new, like, now that they don't make like a Volkswagen Beetle anymore. Like, it's the new punch buggy game.
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A
Yeah. You know Bug. That's what me and Maddie. Maddie do.
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B
What's slug Bug?
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A
Well, instead of saying slug bug, when you would see a Beetle, we say slug like Tesla Bug and we punch each other.
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B
So any Tesla?
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A
Any Tesla.
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B
Yeah, any Tesla. But I feel like a cyber truck was worth, like.
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A
But since the cyber truck has come out, it's been like a more because it doesn't look like, you know, the other Teslas. So it's been like a fun addition to the game.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But I think you gotta watch out because Porsche and Teslas actually look a lot alike when you're looking at them. Many, many Yards away.
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B
That's what makes it interesting. Maybe if the buzz takes off, we can bring back that energy. That was a fun. It's just like. It's a good road trip game to have.
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A
It's a good road trip game. Yeah. Okay. Well, Kel, are you ready for ditch the drive through? The drive through where we give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner rut. Okay, here's what we're gonna do. Kelly and I are actually recording the podcast in person, except one of us is upstairs and one of us is downstairs because we're at my house and I don't have a good setup. Whatever. You don't need to know about it. So Kelly has my new ambitious kitchen cookbook downstairs. And Kelly, you need to go to the portion where it starts from, like, mains to entrees. We're going to do cookbook roulette, and this is going to be our ditch the drive thru. Kelly and I are each going to do it, and I encourage you to go grab a cookbook in to do it as well. So tell me which page numbers start, like, the entrees and end the entrees.
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B
Okay. Yeah, this is. I, I honestly love doing this with them, with cookbooks and I don't think ambitious kitchen. I mean, we, we've like, been dming lately, so I don't think she's gonna mind if we give away a recipe. Also, I feel like I've sold thousands of these cookbooks, so kind of feels sold me. Are you, Are you considering a salad of food?
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A
No, I think, like, mains to, like, hand. I think there's a section called handhelds or mains or something.
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B
Well, there's soup, which. How do you feel? I know you're kind of like, back.
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A
No, I don't want soup. I don't want soup included. I think it was like 160 to 200. I looked at it the other day when we were gonna. When I wanted to do this.
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B
You're really missing some good soups in here, though. No, here's the mains. Okay. Oh, my gosh, Liz, you did not prepare me for this. Hold on, I'm almost okay.
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A
It's fine. I, I, Kelly, I. It's like 160 to 200 for you. I'm gonna pick page 186.
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B
Okay. First of all, it's 114. Fine. We'll just do 186.
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A
186 is what I picked.
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B
We'll see what's on there. Do you Know what that number is, though? I have no idea, because normally I do this on my.
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A
I just picked a random one for you. You're gonna pick a random page for me? Okay.
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B
This is a fun one. Oh, no. Oh, we're doing two. We're doing two.
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A
Oh, no. We can both do it, I guess.
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B
I think we should both do this one.
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A
Okay.
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B
Unbelievable. Here's the. Here's the title. Unbelievable Mini Chicken meatloafs with Non switched potatoes. Okay, so make your own whipped potatoes. I mean, I. You can look up that recipe, but here's the chicken meatloaves, okay? They. They involve an orange or red bell pepper, an onion, sweet potato, peeled and grated, fresh spinach, lean ground chicken or turkey, cilantro, breadcrumbs, egg adobo seasoning, some other seasonings, and that's all. Okay, so while the potatoes and carrots are cooking. So that's for the veggies. Cook the veggies for your meatloaves in a large skillet. Warm olive oil over medium heat. I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but basically, that's the recipe. I'll try to find it online. Unbelievable. Mini chicken meatloafs.
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A
Mini chicken meatloaf. Okay, sure. Why not?
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B
I'll try it. I've really been enjoying cooking out of her cookbook. It's definitely not like you're easy. It's a.
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A
It's.
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B
It's a weekend dinner kind of thing.
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A
But.
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B
Well, good, because, I mean, they're just. You gotta chop a bell pepper. I don't know. That's not always a Tuesday activity for me. I kind of reserve that for, like a Saturday.
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A
What I did notice is when I was reading through the cookbook, because I'm like, oh, whoa, this looks like a lot of ingredients. A majority of the ingredients, though, it seems, are spices. So sometimes you just have to remember that if something looks really, really intimidating, it might just be like, 10 spices. And maybe you got to get, like, something called.
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B
You got to get something called ground ground coriander and adobo and turmeric. And if you have those, then I have turmeric. Well, then all you need is some veggies and some ground chicken. And you can make this. Yeah, you can make this. And I'm telling you, she does a really good job of, like, I promise you, adobo's in here three more times. Like, you will use your adobo seasoning if you purchase it.
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A
I like it. I'm here for it.
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B
Here's. Here's. Here's a True. Ditch the drive that I talked about on my Instagram stories, though, if you need a little something else. Sometimes I think we get so caught up on, like, are we ditching or are we dining? Like, are we ditching or are we cooking? And, like, there is a world where, like, a hybrid combination exists. And I did this last night. I called the local barbecue restaurant up, and I said, can I have two pounds of pulled pork? And they're like, sure. So I just literally got the pork, went home, made green beans, tater tots, and put them on rolls. So it's like I'm. It's like, I didn't pay for. I don't need to pay for your sides. Like, I have sides at home.
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A
Yeah. And I think it's too. It's like, that you just, like, got the protein. I think it's, like, also just kind of, like, sometimes making it at home is. Can be cheaper and also maybe, like, less ingredients.
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B
Exactly.
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A
And healthier. That reminds me, I totally dropped the ball. I need to do that. Kelly. On my meal plan this week, I'm supposed to have pulled pork nachos tonight, and I did not buy pulled pork to put in my crock pot, and it's. I'll. I'll be screwed. I'm gonna have to go pick it up and then make the rest of the nachos at home.
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B
But see, that's what you can do. And it's. You're gonna be like, it's just so nice.
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A
Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm, like, really looking forward to pulled pork nachos, so I'm. I am gonna have to do that. So thank you so much for the reminder.
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B
You're so welcome. Sass. Okay, well, is that our episode?
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A
I think that's our episode. So we'll see if there's anything fun for us to clip. Clip it. I don't know if there was, but turns out we are profound. Profound podcast. Cal, your guilt rant performed so well, and people were like, I really needed to hear that. Well, good. So I'm really proud of you for saying that. And I just think it is a. I don't know. I just feel like sometimes I take. I'm just about to be really sweet to you, so you better, like, pay attention. I think that sometimes I take for granted, like, you just give really, really good advice, and you've given me so much good advice. I just, like, take for granted. And I think that sometimes you just need to, like, give it to the rest of the world, because you do have a lot of good motherhood advice and perspectives.
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B
Oh, my gosh.
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A
You're a thinker.
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B
I am a thinker.
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A
You. You're a thinker. And it's funny because actually, a lot of the advice you've given me, I've, in turn, like, given my friends who are, like, pregnant or having babies for the first time. So, I don't know, just. You're. You've got. You got a good head on your shoulders, kid.
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B
Well, thanks, Liz. That's really kind of you. Yeah, that's very kind of you. You know, I. I have, like. So I'm sorry. I'm gonna respond. I get a lot of. I get a lot of imposter syndrome around that kind of stuff, and that's really why. Something about, like, finally having the fourth kid has just really made me feel like, okay. And I know. I know my kids are young. I know I have so much to learn. And you can ask Liz, one thing about me is I never stop learning. I love constructive criticism. Like, I. I'm all about it. I'm always trying to improve. Always be learning.
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A
Always be learning.
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B
If you're the smartest person in the room, you need to find a new room. And I'm constantly searching for new rooms. No, I'm just kidding. Well, no, I am searching for new rooms, New follows, new people.
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A
Yeah, I. I want to just, like. I want to just, like, know more about things. Like, I want to just. I don't know, I just feel like when you learn something new, your world opens up more and then you. Like, for example, this is a bad example, but it is an example nonetheless. Matt, I. I've told everyone, Maddie had me watch all the Lord of the Rings movies, so I watched all the Lord of the Rings movies. I didn't realize how much, like, content out there or, like, jokes or memes that I never understood because I hadn't seen Lord of the Rings, and now that I have, I'm like, oh, that's what that means. And I just think that can also apply to, like, learning real, tangible things. That's not fake lore. I think your world just opens up. So I don't know what that's gonna look like. I want to try listening to more educational audiobooks this year. That's one of my goals. Podcasts as well. So my goals, I just want to be more well rounded.
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B
Well, and we. We always say we're well read, but, like, that's why I mean, the. The amount of, like, Monster Jam fun facts we gave you, which I'm telling you, you think that's all fun. You think that's funny? Until now. You can talk to someone about Monster Jam. Now you can, like, do good at the trivia night.
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A
Go.
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B
There's just so many industries you don't know about. You know what I mean?
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A
Totally. Go blow someone's mind by saying that Monster Truck sold more tickets than Taylor Swift.
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B
And honestly, you could probably make some money because they'd be like, no, you don't be like, okay, bet me a hundred dollars. Yeah, but. But here's what you do. Here's. Here's how you actually do it. You could say, like, I've heard this Monster Gym thing is so big, I feel like. I bet they sell more tickets than Taylor Swift. Like, you don't say. You're not.
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A
No way. You'd be like, let's look it up. Bet you 20 bucks.
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B
You don't think, like, they travel. Like, it's a big arena. No, no. There's no way. It's like, okay, you want to make it interesting? And then, bam. That's called hustling. Wait, no. What's that called? That's when you hustle.
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A
Hustling? Yeah, it's hustling.
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B
Hustle.
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A
Go hustle. Go hustle. Someone today. And, guys, with that, that's our episode. So thank you so much for listening to the carpool podcast, and we'll talk to you next time.
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B
See ya.
- [45:37]
A
Thank you for listening to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly and Liz.
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B
Make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode.
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A
And if you enjoyed riding with us, tell everybody you know there's room in.
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B
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