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Welcome to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly. And one thing about me, like, you, like, when it comes to, like, flight or fight, like, I'm a flight. Like, I. Not, like, I start, no exaggeration, semi panicking. And Liz.
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B
And that's a weird part in your life where you, like, rewatch a show and you're like, oh, turns out I'm on the side of the parents.
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A
Your mom. Time off starts now. Welcome back to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly and Liz.
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B
Hey, Liz, do we have a show for you. We have so much to catch up on. Like, so much has happened in the span of a few days.
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A
Okay, Fred, thank you. Oh, you made a mess. That's okay. I'll get it later. Fred took my coffee.
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B
He's having, like, he's have.
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A
Oh, can you pick it up? I wish you could see what I'm seeing right now.
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B
Kelly doesn't have any child care right now. The other kids are at school. But Friday, do you know, between our.
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A
Seven kids, it's just like. No, we don't have seven kids. Our six kids.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's exhausting. It's exhausting.
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B
So it's hard to find a time.
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A
They never nap when we need them to nap. So I'm just saying, like, these two episodes a week, don't get me wrong, they're filling my bucket in some ways, and they're draining my bucket in other ways, and I'm gonna do this with both my younger kids here.
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B
Yeah. So, no, that's not your kids screaming in the background. It could be Kelly's.
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A
I'm gonna. After, I'm not gonna get up from my seat, but after, I'm gonna take a picture of what just happened behind me that I'm just literally ignoring. But, yeah, Fred is. Fred is tough right now, mainly because we're potty training. And I talked about this in my stories a little bit, and I had some people being like, oh, any tips? Or like, how'd you know they were ready? Let me be clear. Fred was not ready. Fred is probably. If you. If you go by quote unquote, ready. Fred is not. However, we are trying to cut out the diapers for his eczema, and that's what we're doing. So are we having accidents?
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B
Yeah, left and right.
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A
Hunter Burnett. Am I looking for tips? No, I'm just like. I just kind of like. Like this own little journey that I'm on. And let me be clear. Like, I know what needs to be done. I'm telling you. Doesn't always happen.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So we're working on it. I'm kind of to the point right now where, like, at the end of the day, like, him having an accident and cotton underwear is better than him being in his diapers. Because, see, I. It's honestly night and day, what the diapers do to his eczema.
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B
Oh, that's insane.
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A
And even, like, we've been buying those more expensive. Those more. Those very expensive bamboo nature diapers. But I'm just trying to, like, again, cut those out. Only use those at night and nap and potty train.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So anyway, I'm to the point now where it's just like, okay, if I pack a change of clothes or I pack a diaper, like, they kind of take up the same amount of room in my bag. Like, that's just kind of where I'm at. And he's doing okay. He's. Honestly, he's doing okay. P. Is going really well. Sometimes he just misses, like, when we're out somewhere and he has to tell me. He goes. He has to go. If it takes longer than it would for him to go to, like, our living room to our bathroom.
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B
Okay.
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A
Yeah, that's a problem because he doesn't realize that, like, hey, we're at Target on the other end of the store.
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B
Yeah. So, like, I need a little bit more notice.
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A
I need a little. Yeah, you got to tell me next time. And then, you know, number two is. Is a bit. Is a bit of a challenge. But I just think it's because, like, they know what they're doing and they, like, hide. So, like, I know when he's going to do it, and I just put him on the potty. But, like, he has not one time come to me and told me he had to do it. He'll do that with. With number one, but with number two, he won't tell me that.
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B
And that I have read because I've been looking like, when are they ready? That I think I read is, like a sign that they're not ready if they're hiding still.
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A
Oh, see, I don't know.
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B
And, like, I don't know.
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A
You know what? I'm not, like, knocking, like, potty training books or consultants or anything like that. It's just like, I'm not. I. I just don't need. I just. I'm not ready for that right now because again, like, I'm just. I'm not saying I'm not going to do what it takes to do that. I'm saying I'm doing my best. This is our best, right? Now, if he's probably not totally ready, but again, if I can cut out diapers for. I mean, if he's just home with me and I can cut out diapers for some 70% of his day, and, you know, like, that's better for his eczema. So that's kind of where we're at right now.
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B
You're figuring it out.
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A
We're figuring it out. So, anyways, yeah, well, that was not.
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B
One of the updates that I was looking to share, but I'm happy we shared it nonetheless.
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A
Yeah, I don't know.
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B
Just kind of like, you just, like, really opened up on what you're going through right now.
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A
Well, I did. And I'm sorry. Again, I'm not trying to say, like, I'm. I'm not. I'm just like, don't look to me for advice on potty training because George, I didn't even start till he was three. Hattie did it herself, and Fred and I, like, every. Every journey's been so different, you know?
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B
Yeah, totally. Okay, well, let's just segue right into something else. A very exciting update in our family is our brother got engaged. That's the update I was. I was trying to lead us into.
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A
It is such an exciting time for our family. Another sister.
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B
Another. And a wonderful sister. Someone who I've considered a sister for a while now. But it's totally nice to make it official.
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A
Totally. Yes. Our brother's engaged to Shartay. Shartay Fit over on Instagram. Give her a follow.
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B
She's going to have such good wedding content. I'm so excited.
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A
Well, what she is, is she's a good content creator.
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B
She's a good content creator. She's got good taste. She's got good hacks, and she's precious. And, like, I love wedding plans. Like, I thought when I planned my wedding, then I really got into it and I thought that now that I'm past that phase, like, I wouldn't care so much. I love wedding planning. I love every detail. I love hearing about it. I love talking about it.
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A
So it's just such a fun time in a person's life when they just have something that exciting going on. And I'm so excited for all the parties, for the engagement party, for the bridal shower, the bachelor party.
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B
I was thinking we should probably throw her a bridal shower.
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A
Totally.
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B
I mean, so.
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A
Oh, that's fun for us. I like that idea.
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B
Yeah. We don't know when the wedding is.
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A
No, we know. No details.
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B
We don't know she doesn't know any details. She texted me. She's like, what do I need to be doing right now? But, you know, we're gonna figure it out, so can we share? I guess we can kind of share how he proposed.
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A
Or should we just get her on the pod? Why don't we just plan a pod with Char?
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B
Okay, but she works now. Like, when. When are we gonna coordinate a third person into our.
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A
No, it's.
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B
I'm going to. We'll have Charlotte, and I also want to have Craig. Come on. Maybe she can come and, like, spill some, like, wedding details. We'll. We'll go over the proposal really quick.
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A
Sure.
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B
So we all were going out on Sunday night for my mom's birthday dinner. So Craig told Charlotte that we had my mom's birthday dinner so she would be dressed up cute. And he said, oh, we're going to have this bus pick us all up to the dinner. In the bus was hiding flowers, champagne, and Grayson, who was capturing content. And so he walked out onto their front porch, and he goes, we're actually not going to my mom's birthday dinner. And she was like, where are we going? He's like, we're going to our own dinner. And she was like, why? And he was like, because I want you to be my wife. And then he got down on one knee and proposed. And it's so cute. On their front porch. It's really special because, like, their ring camera captured the entire thing.
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A
I do think Craig knew that the ring camera was going to capture that.
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B
Said. He said. He, like, put. He made sure it was working. I asked him if he knew it was going to capture it, but it's funny because, like, he gets down on one knee, and she goes, no way. And then he's like, will you be my wife? And then she goes, no. And he's like, yes. Is that a. Is that a yes? He said, like, is that a yes? Like, three times. Because she kept saying, like, no, not, like, excited nose. She cried. She. She did say yes, and, yeah. It's just, like, so special.
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A
So special. It's.
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B
And then they did get in the bus, and they went to dinner and, like, met her parents and our parents for drinks beforehand.
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A
Yeah. So, so special. So special.
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B
We're so excited.
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A
Feels so good to, like, have our brother, like, be with, like, just, like. It feels like that box in my life is checked. And that feels really good because, like, who your siblings end up with is such a big deal. These people are going to be in my life for the rest of for a very, very, very long time.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
So you want to like them.
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B
You want to like them. And it just feels so good. Like, I mean, there's five of us, so there's five opportunities for it to go wrong.
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A
When we're three, we're solid. Three for three. Like, everyone goes well together. And if we can get Sidney and Robert Irwin together, we. You know, that would really be cherry on top.
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B
You know, I think he's far too wholesome for Sydney, and I just think he's too wholesome for her.
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A
Yeah. But I feel like that's who Sid could end up with. Like, just someone who's, like, so wholesome.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Opposites attract.
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B
Opposites attract.
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A
Speaking of, like, siblings, I tried to watch the show Love Thy Nadir. Do you know what that show is?
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B
No.
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A
Okay, so Brooks Nader was on Dancing with the Stars last season, and she's just, like, a model. And she's got three sisters, so there's four girls, and they, like, got a new show on Hulu. And, like, I love sisters. Like, I love seeing sisters interact. And, like, I watched the first two episodes, and I'm like, no, not for me, really. It's. It's just. It's. Maybe I'm just too old. Maybe I'm a bit of a prude. It's just like. It's too. It's too. It's too much. I'm like, girls, you putting this on television? People are watching.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Do you know what I mean?
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I guess I just don't find it all that interesting. I just don't think I found it that interesting. Yeah, I know it's not shade to them. I don't think I'm the demographic. Like, Brooks is the oldest, and she's 28 or 20. Yeah, 28. Like, single. Like, you know. And they're all younger than that.
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B
Yes. You just have nothing in common.
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A
And, like, the parents are, like, 50, and I'm, like, relating way more to the parents, and I'm 32, so.
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B
And that's a weird part in your life where you, like, re. Watch a show and you're like, oh, turns out I'm on the side of the parents.
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A
No, Let me tell you what show I was watching the other day, and I was like, this is such a crazy thing to say. This is kind of out of pocket. But I. We. We watched High School Musical. I turned that on for George and Hattie because I'm just, like, really trying to show them, like, what cinema is like, and High School Musical is so good. And, like, I mean, Zac Efron, like, my first crush. Like, my first celebrity crush, 1,000% was Zac Efron. But I'm like, no. The dad's kind of cute.
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B
Yeah, right? Yeah.
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A
Like, what's his name? Bolton. I think it's Chad. Whatever. Like, the dad. I was like, hey, dad.
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B
Hey, dad. What up, Mr. Bolton?
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A
Hey, Mr. Bolton.
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B
You're looking good. Oh, my gosh.
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A
Yeah. So that's kind of. So that's kind of sobering. So anyway, just speaking of sisters, I just. It was just. I don't know. I. I. I didn't care for the show. I only watched two episodes. Download them on the plane. I was just like, yeah, I'm good. I don't really care what happens. But.
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B
But speaking of Dancing with the Stars.
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A
But that. Thank you. But speaking of Dancing with the Stars, I think we're gonna start recapping that.
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B
Yeah. So did you watch?
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A
Of course I watched. Of course I watched.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Here's what I've been liking to do. I'm, like, making the kids watch it and tell her. Making them watch this. I'm like. Because it's like, it's giving me, like, 90s American Idol with my mom.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Do you know what I mean? So I'm like, no. Like, we're all watching it as a family. And he's like, well, I think it's time for their bedtime. I'm like, no, we're watching Dancing with the Stars.
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B
Tyler, It's Tuesday night.
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A
He's not getting it. We watched who? How do you want to do this?
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B
I watched last night with Grayson and her, and I. I've never watched the season. So, like, her and I don't know how voting works. We don't know how eliminations work. We're trying to figure it out. And she's like, okay, I'm going to text and vote. Text in to vote. I've never done this before. So she types the number in her phone, and a chat comes up, and it's the same number you text for American Idol. And she had texted for American Idol so many times. Her and I were crying, laughing, because she was so embarrassed. Like, grayson, you. How? She texted, like, 10 times, like, every episode. 10 times for American Idol.
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A
Who was she voting for?
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She has no idea. She goes, oh, my gosh. I don't even remember this. When was this? It was 2024. And I'm like, grayson.
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A
Oh, that's so funny.
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B
So turns out she. But anyway, we. We really liked it. So who did we like? Who? I liked the gymnast, Jordan. I thought she actually. I think she was. I think she was robbed of the first week and I think she did really well.
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A
She did really well this week. I thought Alex Earl is, like, surprisingly good. Mm.
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B
She was good.
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A
I think Whitney's amazing.
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B
Whitney's fun.
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A
Robert's amazing.
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B
Robert was good. Robert was, like, a little bit more boring for me this week. But, like, whatever. His PR person is killing it. He is all over my social media in a way that no one else is.
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A
He's got a good team.
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B
He's got a good team. I thought that Jen did really well.
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A
Jen definitely did better this time. And it is crazy, like, you know how much their partners, like, play a role in how they do because it's like they not only have to teach them the dance, but they're also choreographing the dance. And it's definitely the balance of, like, highlighting their strengths, hiding their weaknesses, but, like not. Not doing any of the steps. But not doing too many of the steps. I just think. I think the show itself is. I think I love the concert. They think it's such a good show. I think America's all into it right now. I think we all kind of need something like this too. Something we can all watch together. But the judges on that show are horrible. I don't. I literally don't ever care what they have to say. And I've never felt this way about, like, a competition show, like normally in a competition show. And I actually like competition shows like Project Runway. I'm sad. Yeah. I care so much what the judges have to say. I don't care what any single of these judges have to say. They're like, it is the biggest word salad, nothing burger I've ever heard out of their mouths. They never say anything.
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B
I wonder if it will get better as the season goes on and they can, like, give more critiques. Right now they're like, it was week two. It was good. Their voting is so inconsistent.
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A
Their voting is so out of pocket. And like, they're so. What I also don't like about it is I feel like it. They're not giving enough credit for, like, week over week improvement. I know we're only on week two, but it's like at some point, are we really putting like this older man next to this 22 year old girl? Or like, are we. Are we going like, who was. Who improved the most? Who did the. I don't know. So it just feels a little. I. I just. I find that their voting is Again, inconsistent. And I find that their comments are just so boring sometimes. Their comments, like, don't match. Because that guy who's always dress fans, he's like, it was amazing. It was fabulous. 5. And I'm like, yeah. Like, why'd you give him a five? Like, what are you doing? Yeah.
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B
And like, Andy.
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A
It's making me so mad.
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B
Andy, the older comedian, he actually, like, really tugged at my heartstrings. Like, I think his little tie in the skybox to say why he wants to be here kept him on the show. Totally. I think people voted for him. But, like, yeah, if he got a five and Alex got, like, a seven, like, that's not in. What. On what? Like, they're not. They're not in the same league. Like, if she got a seven and he got a five, like, he should have gotten a three and she should have gotten a seven. Like, if you're comparing them directly. So I do think it's, like, kind of comparing them to, like, what their abilities are and kind of where they're at and everything. It's all kind of relative to them.
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A
I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. I don't think, like, Andy's going to win, but it's also.
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B
He's fun to watch.
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A
Well, yeah. And then I'm also just. Yeah. I don't know. And then I thought it was crazy. Like, why was hilarious in the bottom three? I'm sorry, Hilarious? An amazing dancer.
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B
No, I think that that was just. I don't think it was in any specific order.
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A
They said, okay, well, I don't think.
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B
She was in the bottom three.
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A
They find that silly.
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B
Andy in the bottom three. And then it would have been like, who's going to win?
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A
Then it would have been suspenseful because, like, as soon as it was announced, it was like, well, we know. Hilarious. Not going home.
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B
Yeah. Loved her, too.
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A
Do you, like, not know the Hilaria Baldwin lore?
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B
No.
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A
Okay. I'm gonna let you look that up on your own.
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B
Why? She looks very. Is it controversial?
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A
She's not gonna get the. The fan vote. I don't really remember all of it.
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B
Hilaria Baldwin controversy, It's the third thing that comes up. It was something like she in allegations in December of 2020 that she had misrepresented her Spanish heritage and faked a Spanish accent for years.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
Social media users pointed out that while sometimes she claimed to be from Spain, her birth certificate showed she was born and raised in Boston by American parents.
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A
So there's Something there. I'm just saying there's something.
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B
Yeah.
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A
What?
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B
I don't know. She's a great. She was a fun dancer. She's fun to watch. She has seven kids. I mean, she looks great.
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A
All. Yes. Yes to all of that.
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B
Just let me. I don't. I don't need to know everyone's history, but.
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A
Yeah. Anyway, I'm enjoying the show.
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B
Yeah, me too.
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A
Who do you think is going to win, if you had to say? I actually think Robert's gonna win.
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B
Robert. Robert. Because I think that, like, Whitney is. While Whitney might have, like, more tactical skill and everything, like, Robert's gonna have the votes.
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A
Robert's gonna.
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B
Because who is not polarizing at all. I mean, I'm, like, into Whitney's, like, her lore, but, like, some people can't really. Some people aren't over, like, how she acted on the first season of Mormon Wise. Like, she was not a nice person. Like, she was the villain. And, like, Robert, like, couldn't have a controversial bone in his body.
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A
That's what I'm saying. Robert's gonna. That Australian man's gonna bring this whole country together. And there's something to be said about that.
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B
Yeah, he could. So. Yeah. Obsessed. I think he'll win, and I think Whitney will make it really far. And. Yeah, I'm excited to see. I'm excited to see how it all plays out.
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A
Yeah. I'm just loving all things television these days, because, speaking of which, of course, the Lions had the most amazing game. Everyone's talking about it. Like, people were texting me, being like, wow, go Lions.
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B
I saw you got merch.
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A
No, I didn't, actually. I'll tell you that story in a second. So I was in Detroit for the Lions game. I have to tell you guys about my Detroit trip, because you're gonna die. It was an away game, but, like, I was at the hotel bar watching Lions with other Detroitians, and it was just, like, so special to me to be able to do that. And everyone was like, the Ravens are going to crush them. Like, the Ravens are such a good team. And I was like, I think they've got it. Like, I was so optimistic. And of course, like, one thing about me is I'm going to say things and see if they stick on the wall and just, like, see how lucky I can get. So I was telling the team, like, who we were with. I was like, listen, like, I'm gonna be your good luck charm. Like, I'm in Detroit and the Lions are gonna win. I promise you. I'm Just, like, hoping, you know, because if you don't say stuff like that, then you never have the opportunity. Then you can't take the credit. So I wanted to make sure I could get the credit. And when they won, they were like, you might be the good luck charm. And I'm like, I know. And I. Like, there was talks of, if they go to the super bowl, we'll try to get you there.
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B
Oh, you had to. You had to plant this seed early.
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A
I disagree. I mean, I was just, like, having my sight set on that. So, anyway, I need to get to a game. Need to get to a Lions game. But, yeah, I love the Detroit Lions. Like, and I'm telling you now, I'm, like, kind of understanding, like, what they're doing. And the Ravens got. Were so close to the touchdown line and, like, five yards away, and the Lions defense blocked them.
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B
Wow.
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A
So anyway, then the next morning, when we were, like, doing stuff with Ford, like, the Ford, I guess you could say, like, my Daniel, like, my contact, like, just like, the guy who, like, sets up a lot of, like, the events that I go to with Ford, he had that lion's jacket on. And I'm like, can I take a. Can I just wear that for a picture? Really? Thank you. So, anyway, let me tell you about Detroit, because holy freaking moly, you guys.
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B
I didn't even heard about all of it yet.
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A
It was honestly the best, most emotional trip of my life. Oh, my God. One of them. So we. I was invited by Ford to do what's called an smt. I've talked about this before. It's called a Satellite Media Tour, and I go to a studio, and then they syndicate interviews all across the country. So I was there to promote Child Passenger Safety Week, obviously something I'm very passionate about. And I was just there to educate. Like, it wasn't. It wasn't like, a. Ford's the best ever. It was just like, Ford wanted to do good PR for this special week in my. In our community. So I had interviews all over the country, and it's very much like, you know, I have a guy in my ear being like, okay, we're live in Austin. Okay, we're live in Oregon. You're talking. So it's just like, constant interviews. Radio, tv. I love to do those. I think they're very fun and exhilarating. And it was fun because I got to do it with an expedition with car seats, and I got to show how to install the car seat. It was all fun. So I did that. Loved it. Then I met up with the Ford team and some other influencers there. So it was a stacked bench. It was a bunch of mamas. That's who it was. It was me, Sam, safe in the seat. This girl named Elena called the positive mom on Instagram. She has an incredible story. She does TED talks and you should watch her TED talk.
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B
It's.
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A
I haven't watched it yet, but she like just told us her story a little bit. It's inconceivable, like, what she's going through. Like, it's. It's really amazing. And then Dr. Daria, my new BFF, Dr. Dario, over on Instagram. She's an ER doctor and she was so sweet. So it's just like a group of moms.
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B
And Jana.
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A
Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. And Jana. Sorry. And Jana from Real Mom Car Tours. So it was just a bunch of moms being moms, caring about safety, caring about kids. And then we meet up with everybody and then Ford takes away our phones. They put them in these little bags and they were like, yeah, you can't have your phones anymore. And I'm not even allowed to tell you where we were or what we were seeing on the first day. But it was cool. It was cool. We asked hard hitting questions. Of course we did. Like, you know, one thing on me is like, I'm not scared to ask the hard hitting question. And then we went to a track to do like some other fun driving and testing. I learned how to drive a stick shift.
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B
That's huge.
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A
Which is unfortunate. Cause that was like the thing I would say for two truths and a lie that I didn't know how to drive a stick shift. Like that was the truth that everyone thought was a lie because like, why wouldn't the car mom know how to drive a stick shift? So I did learn. I did learn by the head engineer for the Ford Mustang line.
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B
Yeah, that feels pretty cool.
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A
So that was exciting. I was like, you have nothing better to do but teach me how to get to third gear? But it was very exciting. And so then that was the first day we just like did some driving. We gotta go to this again. This place that I can't tell you where we went.
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B
And.
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A
And then the next day, we got to go to the new Ford headquarters. So Ford's recently re on their headquarters. And we were the first group who doesn't work for Ford to see it.
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B
Oh, that's cool. Was it amazing?
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A
Yeah, it was amazing.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, it was just a beautiful building. Beautiful building. And then we got to go to the design, meet with the design team. And again they took our phones and I had to sign basically my life away. I signed a ton of NDAs. So like, I can't really share anything, but it was like one of the most. Like, I walked into this room of people and I started crying and I cried because it just felt like everything that I've ever worked towards was all coming true. Like I've always said, like, I wanted to quote, unquote, consult with a manufacturer to like help them or give or. And share our shared opinion. And that's basically what I got to do. I got to see some future things. And like, I can't, like, when it comes out, like, I can't wait to be like, I told you so. Because, like, it was, what I saw was absolutely unbelievable. And you know, I feel like a trope on the Internet or like a, a message I get all the time is like, we need, we need moms to be designing cars. We need women to be designing cars. We need parents to be designing cars. Let me just assure you they are. So like, I think that trope kind of needs to die because, like, I have, and this is with. I haven't worked with a ton of manufacturers in this, like consulting ish esque way. And I also wanna be clear, like, this is not like a paid thing. Like, I'm not, like, I don't work with manufacturers in that way. But I've been so impressed with the teams at Ford and GM for the diversity on their teams. Like, when I say, like, there is just as many women as there is men in the room. And everyone's. Not everyone, but most people are a parent. Like, they are the ones designing the car. So like, if things feel different or if things feel like we wouldn't have chosen that way, rest assured, like, there is a but like the amount of care that I felt like these people had for our families, like, you can't fabricate it and you can't fake it. Like, they were genuinely so interested to hear, like, how we could make the rides safer and more comfortable and more convenient for us as parents. And it was just like, it was a top, like, it was a top 10 moment of my life. Like, I'm not being dramatic. Like, I'm at the Ford headquarters. I finally feel like I have a seat at the table. It's this diverse group of people and like, they want to know what the carm audience has to say. Yeah, and I let me. I represented us the best way I possibly could. I advocated for us where it needs to be advocated for. And I didn't hold back because it's like, you know, I don't know if I'm gonna get invited back. So I didn't hold back and just like, really? I'm really, really excited about what they're doing.
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B
That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, and that's further goes to prove that it was a good thing you slid that Detroit good luck Charman, because now they have to invite you back whether they want to or not. So. Totally. If you burned a bridge there, you built a bridge on the lion train.
- [26:43]
A
I know. They were always like, so why are you a Lions fan? And I'm like, well, I just, like, woke up one day and was like, what if I became a Lions fan?
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B
Yeah.
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A
And they're like, really? I'm like, yeah, yeah, but.
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B
And that's all it takes.
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A
Love them.
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B
Sounds so exciting. Wish I could have gone, but happy I didn't go that.
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A
Yeah. Sam was a better person to bring than Elizabeth. You know, Sam used buzzwords like, what did I tell you? Mitigation.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know what I'm saying?
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B
Federal regulation.
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A
She was citing federal regulation and asking, like, I mean, it was just. Sam is. She's like. She's just.
- [27:16]
B
Sam's a car. Sam is. If you don't know who we're talking about, she's from Mama Knows car seats. She, like, does a lot with the Car mom team. She's like our go to.
- [27:24]
A
She's like our head contributor.
- [27:25]
B
And she is not only incredibly knowledgeable on car seats, but she's incredibly knowledgeable on cars as well, which is sometimes a hard thing to marry.
- [27:34]
A
It's a. No, it's a very hard thing to marry.
- [27:37]
B
Like, a lot of people can be CPs and know a lot about car seats, but then not always know how that interacts with the car. And Sam is just amazing. So definitely give her a follow if you are looking for a car seat.
- [27:48]
A
Yeah. And I was telling Sam, like, Sam just so feels like an extension of my brain because it is so hard. I mean, I can't possibly. Like, the reason I feel like I need Sam so much is because I could not possibly keep all the car seat knowledge and all the car knowledge in my head at the same time. Like, we both have a lot, but I obviously have more of the car knowledge. She has more of the car seat knowledge. But I'm telling you, like, when we're together, we. We are synced. Like, our brains are synced. She's amazing.
- [28:13]
B
Yeah.
- [28:13]
A
She's Amazing. Love her. Okay. But this was a crazy thing that happened to me. I don't even know if I told you this. I guess I did text you this. So I'm at dinner, and I order a kale Caesar salad. I love a kale Caesar. Like, I just think it's fun, especially at a restaurant that's done upright. I also ordered the meatloaf because let me tell you something. If you're at a fancy restaurant and meatloaf's on the menu, there's a reason, and you should get it. It was the best freaking meatloaf I've ever had in my life. Everyone was kind of making fun of me because everyone else was getting, like, the filet, the salmon, and I'm like, I'll take the meatloaf.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it. I'm telling you, always order meatloaf at a fancy restaurant, because if it's on the menu, it's for a reason. It's a tangible takeaway. It was so good. Anyway, I ordered the kale Caesar, and it comes out, and there's anchovies on it. Like, full anchovies. They were, like, beheaded, though. So it was just like a filet of an anchovy. And I was telling Dr. Daria, the ER doctor. I was like, oh, I've never really, like, had full anchovy. And she's like, oh, they're good. Just like, take a little bite of the anchovy and eat it with your Caesar salad. I was like, okay. So I started taking a couple of bites. All of a sudden, I can feel my tongue, and I can feel my lips, and I am, like, licking my lips, being like, I'm having an allergic reaction right now. Like, never in my life have I been allergic to anything, anything. And I'm like. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I start freaking out because I've. This has never happened to me. And I've also. I've had Caesar salad so many times in my life.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I kind of forgot that there was an emergency. There was an ER doctor right next to me, and I grabbed Sam, and I say, sam, come to the bathroom with me. Now. Sam also, like, drove an ambulance for 12 years, worked as a paramedic. So, like, she's also capable. Like, again, she was the perfect person to bring on this trip for so many reasons. We get to the bathroom, and she's like, oh, your lips are huge. And I'm like, what is happening to me right now? I. And one thing about me, like, you, when it comes to, like, flight or fight like I'm a flight. Like, I not. Like, I start. And no exaggeration, semi panicking. And Sam's like, I know what to do. She gives me a drink of water. She runs to the front desk. She gets me a Benadryl. She's, like, talking me off a ledge. She's like, you're fine. This Benadryl is going to work really quick. We take the Benadryl. Like, my lips. Like, we, like, excuse her from dinner for, like, 15 minutes. Like, I can feel. After I stopped eating it, too. I could feel, like, my lips starting to calm down. And anyway, then I went back to the table, and Dr. Was like, are you okay? And I'm like, I think I just had an allergic reaction. She's like, well, why didn't you come get me? I'm like, I forgot. I was getting a little stressed out. So then docs was like. Doctor was like, well, let me monitor you. So she monitored me. She was giving me a little gland feel. So I had a once over by Dr. Daria. But then I was nervous, and I slept in Sam's room that night. I made Sam monitor me overnight.
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B
It's just, like, for all the reasons, thankfully.
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A
Well, and then I was itchy. Like, my neck was itchy.
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B
Cause I've had a friend who had allergic reaction, and, like, her lips blew up, but then her eyes blew up. And then we called the ambulance, and, like, she had to go to the hospital. So, like, you just never know how serious an allergic reaction can be.
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A
And that's what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm gonna go into anaphylactic shock. Like, I'm freaking out.
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B
Yeah.
- [31:19]
A
So now I'm. I don't know where I go from here. Dr. Daria told me not to eat Caesar salad again or kale until I go get tested.
- [31:28]
B
It had to be the anchovies, though. You've never had an anchovy.
- [31:31]
A
I know, but I've had Caesar salad, like, so many times in my life.
- [31:34]
B
I know, but, like, you've. You ate an anchovy. You've never had an anchovy before.
- [31:37]
A
I know, but anchovy dressing is in Caesar salad. Like, they make Caesar. I make homemade Caesar all the time. And Dr. Daria was like, you know, 15 of people develop allergies in their 30s, and seafood's a very common one. I'm like, are you trying to tell me that, like, I'm allergic to seafood now? Like, this is not.
- [31:51]
B
That would be so depressing.
- [31:53]
A
So I don't know Where I go from here.
- [31:57]
B
Okay, but what do you think? Develop a seafood allergy in your 30s or get bit by a tick and can't have red meat?
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A
Seafood allergy for sure.
- [32:05]
B
Yeah, agreed.
- [32:06]
A
Seafood allergy for sure. So, anyway, I guess I need to get into an allergist now.
- [32:11]
B
Woof.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Woof. Well, good thing that happened around all capable people, because if you would have been around, like, literally anyone in your everyday life, no one would have handled it that well.
- [32:23]
A
I mean, I was about to call 91 1. I'm like, I know that's what I would have done. Because it's just like. That just scares me. Yeah, that scares me.
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B
Yeah.
- [32:30]
A
So anyway, now and then, the doctor also told me to start carrying Benadryl. So it's just like, now I'm that girl, you know?
- [32:39]
B
Now you're that girl.
- [32:40]
A
So, anyway. Okay, Liz, are you ready for industry news, where I spill the hot tea going on in the auto industry?
- [32:46]
B
I sure am.
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A
Okay, this is my favorite story I've maybe read ever. This is from Car and Driver. It says, Infinity's new robot is a comical solution to blue jean stains. Infinity has a new robot designed to develop leather seats capable avoiding stains left by blue jeans. The new robot replicates a passenger getting in and out of the seat more than 10,000 times. In order to test the lifetime durability, you have to look up this video. They plop this giant butt on this white seat, and they take the jeans and they go whoomp, womp. And they slide it off 10,000 times.
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B
Okay, wait. What is the brand that's doing it?
- [33:25]
A
Oh, Car and Driver. Here, I'll text it to you really fast. It's hysterical. And that's what I'm saying. Like, they are doing a good job sometimes. Sometimes they're not, but sometimes they are.
- [33:35]
B
Oh, my gosh. What?
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A
Isn't that funny?
- [33:39]
B
It's like, who thinks of this? Well, people who have blue jeans kinda has a dump truck. Okay, so that's like someone's job. And that's crazy.
- [33:54]
A
That's someone's job. Someone is there. Someone went to engineering school and was like, I've got to figure out how to build a robot to test a butt on, you know, jeans on a car.
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B
That's hilarious. Okay. Do you have any?
- [34:08]
A
So good to know they're doing it. Good to know they're doing it. You know, if we can put on a man on the moon, we should be able to figure out how to make leather that doesn't transfer to blue jeans. Okay, our next story is by car dealership guy. And it's Infinity adjacent because it says Nissan unveils latest self driving tech powered by AI Nissan is looking to carve out a place in the growing autonomous vehicle market. As part of its broader comeback strategy, the Japanese automaker is partnering with a British startup to develop its self driving tech. Nissan expects to launch the autonomous systems in 2027, but has not disclosed which models will debut the new technology. And so it says Nissan is betting on self driving technology to help revive its brand, lift margins and re establish its role as an innovator. Because Nissan's tagline is one of my favorites. It is innovation that excites.
- [34:59]
B
It's a great one. It's a great tagline.
- [35:01]
A
Now I would say the blue jean thing is innovation that excites self driving AI. It's doing less for me.
- [35:08]
B
Nissan has so much to work on that, like, they can't even touch more. They're not even worried about blue jean stains.
- [35:17]
A
Well, Nissan Infinity are the same company, so they obviously are.
- [35:22]
B
Oh, they are.
- [35:24]
A
Oh, you. You knew that?
- [35:26]
B
No, I knew that, but I thought that it was. Oh, yeah. I thought it was Lexus and that. That's. Or I thought Infiniti and Toyota were. But it's Lexus and Toyota.
- [35:33]
A
Yep. But anyway, it just feels like, I mean, it's like it's hard because you have to do it in a way, like you have to be trying because you don't want to get so left behind, but you also kind of have to refine what you have. And my problem with Nissan right now is I just don't think they have a really. I would not describe them as innovation that excites, I think is the problem.
- [35:58]
B
Yeah.
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A
Who do you think, out of all the automakers is innovation that excites?
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B
You know, like someone who, when I see their cars, I'm like, dang, that's. That's cool. Is Buick.
- [36:12]
A
Totally. That's like kind of a sleeper one. But I would agree with you.
- [36:16]
B
Yeah. And then, you know, I think that, like, Ford and GM are doing really good with their, like, autonomous driving.
- [36:25]
A
Yeah. Ford and GM are doing really. I mean, I'm telling you, I'm very impressed. I'm a little. And it's interesting to see that we haven't had. I feel like now they're just like, we have all like these buckets. Like, Ford and GM are kind of doing the same thing. Toyota and Honda are kind of doing the same thing. Obviously Kia and Hyundai are doing the same thing. And it's like Nissan needs to like, pick who they want to, like, kind of be hanging out with. With.
- [36:47]
B
Yeah, like, who are you going to be? What. What lunch table are you sitting at?
- [36:52]
A
Which lunch table are they sitting at? Yeah, I think they need to double down. I think they need to continue. They need to market the Pathfinder better. I feel like that's kind of just where the people don't even think of the Pathfinder. And that, that I feel like is their problem. People should be thinking of the Pathfinder. I know your Armada is trash, but honestly, hang up the hat. Like, stop producing it. The Armada is like, I shouldn't say it's trash, but like, just compared to the other full size SUVs, for what you're paying for. You're not. It's just, it's, it's not. It's borderline uncompetitive. I'm sorry, it is, it's uncompetitive. Not saying it's a bad car. I'm saying it's uncompetitive.
- [37:26]
B
It's just crazy how, like, so much is going. Everything is going right in the Pathfinder and then everything's going wrong in the Armada. That's just so perplexing to me. It's so perplexing. Make a bigger Pathfinder.
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A
I know they start just like, free idea, free idea. It's insane.
- [37:41]
B
Make a bigger path.
- [37:42]
A
And then I think the Rogue is a hero card. Like the, like, Rogue should be. And everyone should be considering the Rogue when they're considering the RAV4 and the CRV. And I think, I think the Rogue's actually a really good selling model for them. They're one of the only manufacturers who's still doing sedans. So, like, which people? We need sedans and they have good sedans. The Altima is a great car.
- [38:01]
B
Yeah.
- [38:01]
A
Get out of the. They got out of the truck market. That was a good idea. That sounds like they're out of the EV market. Well, or they're doubling down on the Leaf. I agree. Focus on the Leaf and give us the Xterra back.
- [38:12]
B
Yeah.
- [38:12]
A
That's the best thing that they can do.
- [38:14]
B
Yeah, I agree. That'll be huge.
- [38:17]
A
That'll be huge. Hopefully they'll bring me in for consulting. Can I like, say I'm a consultant now?
- [38:23]
B
If anyone should be brought in for consulting on a Nissan product, I do think it should be me. The way that I have just been a champion for that brand for years.
- [38:32]
A
No, Elizabeth, I'm not trying to take you. I'm not gonna take a seat away from you at the table. You're absolutely, you're absolutely right. But I'm just asking, like, can I now tell people I'm a consultant?
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B
Yeah.
- [38:40]
A
I think such a, it's such a buzzword. You know what I mean?
- [38:42]
B
No, I think you can. I mean, you also consult people on their car purchases.
- [38:47]
A
Yeah. Okay, so that's like, I would just like love if like, I like met someone like, you know, in the elevator, like, oh, what do you do? I'd love to be like, oh, I'm, I'm in consulting.
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B
Yeah.
- [38:56]
A
It's easy because then it's like, well, I haven't, Then I'm like, you have Instagram. Yeah. And it's like, it's, it's like when you say you're an accountant, like they don't really, I don't think people will ask a lot of follow up questions if you're like, oh, I'm in the consulting field, so, you know, I might try that. I'm going to try it on for size.
- [39:11]
B
Yeah, Let us know how it goes. Okay, are you ready for.
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A
Sorry, I have one more story.
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B
Oh, I'm sorry.
- [39:18]
A
This is from CBS News. Car buyers rush to capitalize on federal EV tax credit ahead of expiration next week. So we've been talking about this, but I just want to bring it to everyone's attention that the EV tax credit, so the 7, 500 tax credit that you get for purchasing an EV goes away on September 30th. So make haste if you were looking to buy an ev.
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B
It is.
- [39:39]
A
The time is now.
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B
The time is now.
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A
The time is now.
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B
Okay, well, Kel, are you ready for ditch the drive thru where we give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of your dinner at.
- [39:50]
A
Yep, yep, yep.
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B
Okay, this is gonna be a one pan because we love a one pan.
- [39:54]
A
A one pan.
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B
And the theme is garlic, butter, chicken and veggies. So I like kind of love a, love a butter chicken.
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A
Okay, here's what chicken you need.
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B
A chicken breast cut into bite sized pieces, baby potatoes halved, broccoli, butter, garlic, paprika, Italian seasoning, salt and pepper, squeeze of lemon juice is optional. Preheat oven to 400. And then on the sheet pan you're gonna put the potatoes, the garlic, the salt, the pepper, the seasonings and roast those in olive oil and roast those for 15 minutes. And then you're push the potatoes to one side because potatoes need a long time to cook. And you're gonna put the chicken and the broccoli on the Pan on the other side, toss with the remaining butter, garlic, and seasonings, and roast for 15 minutes until the chicken is cooked through and the potatoes are golden and finished with a squeeze of lemon.
- [40:50]
A
Wait. Oh, so you're. Okay. I'm sorry. So you put the potatoes in the oven for an extra 15 minutes. Because they take longer.
- [40:54]
B
Because they take longer.
- [40:55]
A
Okay. I thought you meant, like, take them out of the oven.
- [40:58]
B
Oh, no. Push them to one side of the.
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A
Pan and then put the other stuff there. Yum. That sounds really good.
- [41:03]
B
Just, like, recreate that with whatever seasonings you want.
- [41:05]
A
Yeah, I need. I need an easy dinner recipe like that tonight. I am. I'm a bit in my dinner rut.
- [41:11]
B
Well, that's, like, a good. It's super easy. It's healthy. It's reset. It's not. You don't have a lot of flavors going on. Like, sometimes you just need something super, super simple.
- [41:23]
A
We got a couple of people saying, recommending beef ember beef. Oh, beef ember. No, that. No, Beefmer.
- [41:34]
B
November for. No, I saw that one, and it looks okay. Written out. I cannot pronounce it.
- [41:44]
A
There's not an obvious one. But that. And if you don't know, we're talking about. We're talking about doing ground beef recipes kind of like we do October.
- [41:51]
B
I do like the idea of doing it in November. The holiday season. Like, is there something with the holidays, too? Because that's, like, we don't have to do just, like, a month month. You know, like, we could do, like, Thanksgiving up to Christmas. Like, is there a holiday take on it?
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A
I think you. I think we're close.
- [42:07]
B
Huh?
- [42:10]
A
I think we need to just go back. It's not innovation yet, though.
- [42:13]
B
Happy beefy days.
- [42:15]
A
Beefy days. Oh, happy holiday holidays. That's such a. Like, did you just hurt your back with that stretch? Okay, let's keep thinking, and if we can't think of something, maybe it'll just be like, an internal thing we do, you know?
- [42:29]
B
Yeah.
- [42:30]
A
Everything has to be a pun.
- [42:32]
B
Not. Well, it does feel like everything should be a pun.
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A
Okay, other huge news. Before I let you go, like, I just have to tell you this. My birthday banner finally came in.
- [42:44]
B
Oh, just in time for Sloan's birthday party.
- [42:46]
A
Just in time for someone's birthday party. I'm just gonna go get it really fast because I need you to see it.
- [42:49]
B
Okay. It's better live up to the hype.
- [42:53]
A
You know, it will, like, little backstory. Great. I'm in my banner era. I'm trying to just make things special. And I think an easy way to do that is to get banners. I went on, I wanted a happy birthday banner that I could hang up for all my kids. And you know me, I'm all about, like, making things sentimental, making things special. And, like, I want this to be the banner that my kids fight over one day when it's like, who gets mom's birthday banner? I went on Etsy, and I, like, I'm gonna.
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B
I'll.
- [43:16]
A
I'll let you guys know who this person is. I'll post it in the carpool or something, because, like. But I don't want to blow her up too bad because she's hand making these, and I think I paid $70. But I'm telling you, it's heirloom quality. It is such good quality. She sent me the fabrics that she was doing, and then I was like, hey, that's reading like, a little girly. And I have two boys, two girls. Could we, like, take out some of the pinks and add maybe with some more greens and blues? She's like, for sure. And here it is. It's like. It is. Elizabeth, you're gonna do it to me.
- [43:50]
B
Oh, it's so cute. Wow. Wow. Excellent quality. Oh, it's so cute.
- [43:59]
A
And, like, I know. It's, like, got this beautiful ribbon. Look at the back.
- [44:02]
B
Oh, my gosh.
- [44:03]
A
So it's just bright. It's rainbow, isn't it?
- [44:12]
B
I love it.
- [44:13]
A
It's precious. Isn't, like, the most riveting podcast content? I'm gonna. Maybe I'll post it on Instagram.
- [44:19]
B
I think you have to now.
- [44:21]
A
It is so, so sweet and special. Like, I'm so excited. Of course, I'm excited to hang out for Sloane's birthday. But then Hattie's birthday is coming up too. Yeah, I can't wait to debut it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Cannot wait.
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B
You don't have to do it at someone's birthday.
- [44:33]
A
No, no.
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B
You wanna do it at first.
- [44:34]
A
No, I mean, that's what it's for. That's what it's for.
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B
Okay, okay. Okay. Well, before we go, quick announcement. October is right around the corner, and October means it's time for Blake's besties. October is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month. So every October, we ask listeners to submit their stories of their kids that they have lost, whether it's through miscarriage or just lost in infancy. And tell us about their baby, tell us what their name was, tell us what you were craving, tell us where, what concerts you took them to while they were in your womb. Just like we're here to focus on the positives and, like, not act like your child and your pregnancy never existed. We're here to speak their. Their life into existence. And so that's what Blake's Besties is for. So you can write into hello@the CarmomOfficial.com, make the subject line something along the lines of Blake's Besties. So we know. And at the end of every episode in October, we will read two or three stories. So also, if you don't want to hear those stories, just sign off a little bit early. But I think it's our third year doing it.
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A
It's our third year doing it. And Blake's Besties comes from the name of Blake, who's Blake's mom. Rachel wrote into us a couple of years ago, letting us know that October was this week and if we would be willing to just bring awareness to this week. And we said this month. We both just felt sorry this month. And we both just felt very called to, I guess, like, even go a step further and just really honor and remember all of these babies. And to Elizabeth's point, we just feel like. And although Elizabeth and I haven't experienced it for ourselves, it just feels like sometimes these babies, people are. They feel like maybe not. Not the parents necessarily, but other people, like, don't want to say the name or they feel awkward, or they, like, don't want to bring it up. And we feel like we want it to be the opposite. We want it to be a time where we remember. We say their name. We are. If you didn't name them, that's okay, too. But we say their name, we say their story. And, you know, however long. However long they were with you, like, I mean, they. They were your child. You are their mother. And we don't want that to be forgotten. So the other thing we do ask, though, is if you do write in, just keep the story. I mean, you can write more, but also just know for podcast sake, we might have to keep it a little bit more brief. But know that me, Liz, or Matni on our team, we read and respond to every single one of them. And if you don't want it to be read out out loud, you can also just say that. And if you just want to share the story with us, we would.
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B
Yeah, we would love to hear that. In the past, some people have said, like, here's the whole story. But, like, this is the blurb that you can read on the pod just because they, like, want to give context or it's like, just want to send an email and have someone read it. So Blake's Besties, starting in October, starting next week. Excited for it.
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A
Sorry. Read the stories. It's always. It is a. It's one of my favorite segments that we do.
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B
Me too. And with that, that's going to be our episode. So thanks for just, like, listening to all the updates. There was just kind of, like, a lot.
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A
Yeah, no, I mean, like, I feel like my kids were, honestly, shockingly, really good for this. Like, Libby did fall asleep. Fred only spilled half my coffee on the ground and hasn't asked to go to the bathroom since, so. Great.
- [47:45]
B
We might want to check on that, because I feel as though he should have gone to the bathroom by now, so.
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A
100%.
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B
Thank you so much for listening to the carpool podcast, and we'll talk to you next time.
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A
See ya. Thank you for listening to the Carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz. Make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode and if you enjoyed riding with us. Plus, tell everybody you know there's room in the car for everyone.