2 Kinds of Consciousness - Minisode

Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: Everything Is Energy with Cathy Heller
Episode: 2 Kinds of Consciousness - Minisode
Date: March 6, 2026
Host: Cathy Heller

This minisode explores the interplay between physical and spiritual consciousness, drawing wisdom from the spiritual roots of Judaism and Kabbalah. Cathy Heller guides listeners on how surrender, certainty, and divine trust open us to real abundance and miracles—often in ways beyond our personal plans. With personal stories and vivid metaphors, Cathy emphasizes abandoning rigid expectations in favor of spiritual openness and trust in the Light always flowing through us.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Physical vs. Spiritual Consciousness

[01:27] Cathy Heller:

• Explains the two frames of consciousness:
  • Physical Consciousness:
    • "If a farmer is planting seeds... the farmer is in the expectation that right there where they planted the seeds, there should be a crop."
    • Direct cause-and-effect thinking: I put energy here, results happen here.
    • This is the realm of "the 1%," the visible, tangible, logical world.
  • Spiritual Consciousness:
    • "Spiritual consciousness is very different... I'm going to give this all I got, and I'm also surrendered to this or something greater for the highest and best of all."
    • Involves surrender, trust, and openness to blessings emerging from unexpected directions rather than forcing specific outcomes.
    • Operates in "the 99%"—the unseen foundation of reality in Kabbalistic teaching.

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2. Letting Go of the Outcome & Following Divine Guidance

[02:40] Cathy Heller:

• Shares her own journey:

  • Moved to LA to become a singer-songwriter with a record deal.
  • Despite initial encouragement, her path shifted unexpectedly.
    • "I didn't wind up staying at the label. So I wound up years later, 10 whole years later, I started a podcast."
  • Realization: "I said I was going to go to LA and use my voice. And this is how."
  • The path unfolded in a better, totally different way than she could have predicted.

• Lesson:

  • "But it's none of your business how it's supposed to come to you. What you do have is another little whisper of a half step, which sometimes makes no sense."
  • Effort given in one area can pay off in unforeseen ways; focus on intention and openness rather than controlling results.

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3. The Danger of Forcing Outcomes

[03:41] Cathy Heller:

• Warns against rigidly clinging to physical consciousness:

  • "There are some people who are so determined to live in physical consciousness, they're living a destiny that doesn't belong to them because they were like, this is what I want right here."
  • By holding tight to a fixed vision, they miss the greater purpose and vast possibility life offers.

• Quote:

  • "If you want to control it, okay, it may or may not work, but it won't really work anyway, right?"
  • True fulfillment requires faith and humility—letting go to be guided.

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4. Certainty as the Expander of Your Vessel

• Key Spiritual Principle:
  • Certainty in a higher intelligence expands your "vessel"; fear and self-doubt constrict it.
  • "By putting your love and energy and attention and the full trust, right, that full certainty in something that is guiding us all to something bigger, you're just going to be led."

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5. Real-World Example—Mike Dooley’s Path

[04:40] Cathy Heller:

• Shares the story of author Mike Dooley:
  • Started out selling T-shirts.
  • Needed sayings for shirts, so began writing what became Notes from the Universe.
  • "He has over a million people who care more about the blog...because it was never about the T-shirts."
  • Illustrates how initial goals can unexpectedly morph into one's true calling when guided by spirit, not rigid plans.

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6. Trust Your Energy, Not the Map

• "I don't like you to get too hung up on figuring a lot of steps out. But I do love you to put your energy and heart and enthusiasm and joy into things and then just allow it to go where it needs to go."
• Encourage listeners to follow their joy and intuition, focusing on being open vessels.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Physical vs. Spiritual:

  • Cathy Heller [01:37]:
    "Physical consciousness is like, if a farmer is planting seeds... there should be a crop, right? Spiritual consciousness is... just going to summon it anyway... I'm also surrendered to this or something greater for the highest and best of all."

• Letting Go:

  • Cathy Heller [03:58]:
    "So if you want to control it, okay, it may or may not work, but it won't really work anyway, right? And then when you surrender it, you have no clue, but you'll be led to do exactly what it is. That's like your next half step."

• Mike Dooley Story:

  • Cathy Heller [04:40]:
    "He only started his blog, Notes from the Universe, because he was making T-shirts that needed sayings on them... because it was never about the T-shirts."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:27: Introduction to physical vs. spiritual consciousness
• 02:40: Cathy’s personal story about shifting from music to podcasting
• 03:41: The dangers of forcing outcomes; letting go of rigid plans
• 04:40: Mike Dooley’s example; being guided to surprising purpose
• 05:30: Lesson summary—energy, joy, trust, and allowing

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Takeaways

• Don’t fixate on narrow outcomes; your destiny may unfold in ways you don’t expect when you surrender to higher guidance.
• True abundance, opportunity, and grace come when you expand your consciousness and open your vessel with certainty, trust, and positive energy.
• Follow “the next half step” that feels aligned, even when it makes no logical sense, and watch how the Light enters—often as a miracle.

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This episode is a devotional reminder that we are all vessels for Divine Light. Certainty—not control—is the key to receiving the blessings already waiting for us.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Hey guys, it's Kathy. I just wanted to share some bonus mini episodes with you every week to give you a little preview of the powerful discussions that we have inside my community. It's a community called this Abundant Life. It's a membership with over a thousand people in it. It's been such a gift to be a part of this collective and I wanted to share with you some of the conversations that we have in there. If you want to go deeper, you can join us in the membership. You can sign [e-mail] Life I would love to see you in there. Okay, let's get into it.

[C]

So I want to teach you guys something, okay? When it comes to the first question of not knowing where to begin or not knowing which path to take, I want to teach you something. So kabbalistically, we know that there's two kinds of consciousness, okay? There's physical consciousness and spiritual consciousness. And I want to teach you the difference. Okay? Physical consciousness is like a. If. If a farmer is planting seeds, and right here on this patch of grass, the farmer is planting seeds, what does the farmer expect? The farmer is in the expectation that right there in this patch where they planted the seeds, there should be a crop, right? It's like I'm putting my effort right here. And so there should be an answer right here for the work I'm doing. Right here, I'm directing attention and effort and I want to see it come back type of one, if that makes sense. This is physical consciousness. This is the. The realm of the. The 1%, not the 99% of where all the stuff really happens. Okay? Spiritual consciousness is very different. Let me tell you what spiritual consciousness is. Spiritual consciousness is I am feeling called over here. So I'm just gonna put a lot of love and attention and energy over here, and I'm gonna trust that my. My abundance or my. My mazal or my. My life path might show up over here. But just by me putting energy and effort over here and, like, showing up with my full intention, I'm actually going to summon it anyway. Okay. Because when you just take a half step forward and you're coming from this place of, I'm going to give this all I got, and I'm also surrendered to this or something greater for the better, for the highest and best of all. Right, Right. You don't know how it's supposed to come to you. It's none of your business. But what you do have is another little whisper of a half step, which sometimes makes no sense. So I came to LA being like, I'm going to have a record deal because I want to be Natalie Merchant, literally. And then I met with Craig Kelman and he's like, you sound like Natalie Merchant. I was like, that's the compliment. That's exactly it. That's who I want to be. Right. And then it didn't work that.

[A]

That way.

[C]

I. I didn't wind up staying at the label. So I wound up years later, 10 whole years later, I started a podcast. And I was like, oh, my God. It hit me like, eight months in, I was like, oh. I said I was going to go to LA and use my voice. And this is how. Right. This was actually how. It was so much better than what I had in mind. But would you believe that the person who introduced me to my podcast, the idea of it, she set me up on my first meeting. She's a songwriter. How did I know her? From songwriting? Yep. Because it's none of your business. I'm over here putting all my attention. But then I got really, really clear and I let go of the outcome and I just showed up and I surrendered because I knew. Oh, right. I'm attaching to physical consciousness. Like, you know that there are some people. I want to tell you this. This is a frightening thought. There are some people who are so determined to live in physical consciousness, they're living a destiny that doesn't belong to them, because they were like, this is what I want right here and. Right. And there's a whole bigger world, whole bigger path that was theirs. But they didn't. They didn't let go so they couldn't have it. So if you want to control it, okay, it may or may not work, but it won't really work anyway, right? And then when you surrender it, you have no clue, but you'll be led to do exactly what it is. That's like your next half step. And by putting your love and energy and attention and the full trust, right, that full certainty in something that is guiding us all to something bigger, you're just going to be led. Mike Dooley, who I talked to you about before, he started out selling T shirts. He only started his blog, Notes from the Universe, because he was making T shirts that needed sayings on them. And he's like, maybe I should, like, create these sayings. Anyway, he has over a million people who care more about the blog, right? Because it was never about the T shirts. But you don't know what you're doing, actually, because you're being guided. It's all being downloaded all the time. So I don't like you to get too hung up on figuring a lot of steps out. But I do love you to put your energy and heart and enthusiasm and joy into things and then just allow it to go where it needs to go.