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Kathy Heller
2026 is not asking you to set yet another goal. It's asking you, who are you finally willing to be. What we're doing here is the part that most people avoid the decision. The part where you stop pushing your real life to someday and realize that it's now. I just led an intention setting workshop all about raising your standards, about committing to what you're available for this year and what you're not available for. No more vague promises, no more dragging old patterns into a new calendar year. In this one hour workshop, I'm going to help you choose a clear embodied intention for your year, understand why past intentions never stick, set standards that you're actually going to keep, get honest about what you're no longer available for, and learn how to follow through all year without forcing. This is not just motivation, it's actually recalibration. This is the kind of workshop where your energy cleans up, your boundaries solidify, and you stop negotiating with your true self. You don't need another sign. You don't need to keep waiting for something. You don't need to keep postponing the life that's calling you. It's time. It's time to step into the life that's always been yours. You can watch the full replay of this intention setting workshop@kathyheller.com replay this one hour will change 2026 for the better. Hey, it's Kathy Heller. Welcome back to the Kathy Heller Podcast. So the new year is upon us and this is the last episode of 2025. So today we are going to share a roundup of some of our favorite episode moments from this year and I think you're gonna love it. And I'm just so blown away. I'm so grateful that you listened to this podcast and I'm so grateful that I get to do this podcast. Because who I've become by getting to connect with so many people around the world who listen to our show, support our show, and who I've become by having these deep conversations and growing as a person. I just could never sum it up in words, but it's an incredible blessing, an absolutely incredible bless. And this year was no exception. We had amazing conversations and I think you're going to love this roundup of clips that we have prepared for you. I also want to let you know that because the new year is here, I'm doing a 14 day reset and you can actually join us. You can dip your toe in it and for a dollar you can try the first few days of it, which includes the masterclass that I'm giving this week and on Tuesday, all about the energy of Capricorn and what is it that Kabbalah says about how we can really dive into the energy that's accessible right now? And interestingly enough, the energy of Capricorn is all about the structure, the discipline of receiving. What that means is it actually is an amazing time to go into the new year and to get more clear about what are your boundaries, what are your standards. Capricorn is the kind of energy that does really well when we define what we are no longer available for and what we are available for. And we hold ourselves in the discipline to be sovereign to that which is our highest and best intention for us and for the world. So we're going to do some really powerful things to get this week and to get this new year started. If you want to join us, you can go to kathyheller.com reset and you can be a part of the first few days of it. You'll start the new year with me. We are going to be getting up every day together. We'll be doing it live. And if you can't be there live, we will send you a private recording of it so you can watch the replay. But we're going to be doing a morning practice that will help you arrive at your own door every morning. And I'm going to show you how you can powerfully change your life.
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Amber Ray
Right.
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Kathy Heller
When you change what it is that you focus on, when you change what it is that you emit, we all have this sort of broadcast, our vibration, our intention, all of that that is happening within you changes the world around you. So if you want to join us for this to kick off the new Year, I think that you will absolutely love it. You can go to kathyheller.com reset and it's only a dollar, and you can join us. And you're gonna love it. Now let's dive into this episode. So, as I said, we had beautiful conversations this year, and it was difficult to choose just a few clips, but here are some of the moments that really stood out. First of all, my incredible friend and mentor, Rabbi David Aaron. He has many sayings that I quote all the time, and here's one of them. Rabbi Aaron, I don't know if you would mind telling it, but you have so many good stories and so many of your stories I retell. But you tell this story about going to visit your parents when you saw the pictures everywhere and how that reminded you of how much God loves you. Can you Tell that story.
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Rabbi David Aaron
Sure. Well, when I was 18 years old, I went to Israel for a year to study in a Torah center, a yeshiva. And I was coming home for the summer, and I wanted to surprise my parents. So I didn't tell them what date I'm arriving so that I could kind of just knock on the door and give them a big surprise. So I landed. I'm from Toronto, Canada. I landed in Toronto. I took a taxi. I got to my home, I knocked on the door, nobody answered. I rang the bell, nobody answered. I said, oh, my gosh, the surprise is on me. My parents aren't home. And I wasn't even sure. Maybe they even not in Toronto. Maybe they. Sometimes they would go to Hamilton or whatever, Buffalo, you know. And so I said, oh, my gosh. But, you know, if it's your home, you know how to break in, right? That's how you know it's your home. And so I knew that the way to break into my home was through the bathroom window. I later wrote a song for the Beatles, you know. Broke in through the bathroom window. Came in through the bathroom window. So I came in through the bathroom window. And I walked out of the bathroom. And I was in shock. I see the. The family room, and there's pictures of me. There's a picture of me on the piano, and there's a picture of me on the. And the chimney, you know, and there's a picture of me on the coffee table. And then I go into the kitchen, and there's a picture of me on the refrigerator. And then I go into the living room. There's a picture of me there. And I couldn't believe it. There was a picture of me everywhere. That said, wanted dead or alive. No, I didn't say that. I'm just joking. There was a picture of me, and I felt a tremendous shame. And the shame was my parents loved me so much. And I never really was aware of it. I really, really didn't appreciate it. I didn't really know that. And I. And I see that as the ultimate judgment. I think the ultimate judgment is when we will realize that God loves us so much and only and always and forever loves us. And when we discover that that love was there and was always there, and we were either in denial of it or oblivious of it. And not that God is looking to be reciprocal, but if you really are loved, then you assuredly love those who love you. And that was a big awakening for me that my parents were so crazy about me and I. I really wasn't aware of that. I really wasn't aware of that. And there's so many people that, you know, I think that's part of, you know, Kabbalah is about receiving. And I think one of the great challenges that people have today is they can't receive love. You know, there's a book that I once read called Women who Love Too Much, about people who are constantly loving and loving and not giving people the opportunity to love them back. And people think that love is to give, but sometimes I have to give you an opportunity to give me because you want to give also. And I realized this when my daughter got married. You know, she knows this guy for about a year, and she gets married. And by mod, by Dad, I think, wait a second. I'm the man in your life for all these years. And she was. Wasn't 18 actually, at the time. She was 23 years old. And I'm thinking, like, how did that happen? I mean, how does she so easily kind of, like, do that? And I realized, because I've been giving her love all these years, and I'm so connecting to her, but she doesn't. She didn't give much love to us. I mean, she received love. She didn't really have too much opportunity to give love. And then I, you know, I asked my students, I asked myself this question, and I now ask my students, if you had a choice to love or to be loved, you know, which would you choose? But let's say it's just theoretical. You couldn't have both. And a lot of people say to be loved, but the truth is, you don't feel as connected to the people that love you as you do to the people that you love. And sometimes you have to give people the opportunity to love you because they want to feel connected to you. And they. They don't feel as connected to you because they're receiving from you. They feel connected to you because they're giving to you. That's what we have to do. We have to be in a world where love is something that we give, and we also give people the opportunity to give that love to us and to other people, too.
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Kathy Heller
Okay, well, now let's listen to another amazing teacher, Martha Beck. She always has a mic drop to share.
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Amber Ray
And.
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Kathy Heller
And this is one that really stuck with me. Can you speak more about why we're actually trying to control and how that control actually takes away our joy and our peace?
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Martha Beck
Okay, so this is part of the way the brain functions. The left hemisphere tries to keep you safe by controlling things. And It. Sometimes it's. It works fairly well. Like, you can scream at someone not to hurt you and maybe they'll back down. But we also try to control things when you like, whether people love us or not or whether we'll get sick or whether we'll have enough money. And we try to control it for the rest of our lives and under every circumstance. And you just used the phrase, I have to let go of control. But actually, you never have to let go of control because you never have control. What you have to let go of is the illusion of control and the desperate attachment to controlling things, neither of which actually work. They don't work. We really don't control pretty much anything in the world. I remember after my son was born with down syndrome, and I knew about it for the last couple of months of the pregnancy, and I was just shattered. I was 25 years old. I was so miserable. I was getting my doctorate at Harvard, and I have this kid who has a profound disability. And I remember at 25 going, oh, my God, I can't control anything. And people urged me to end the pregnancy. And I could have legally, just barely legally. I've helped other people who chose the other path and who did terminate, and I'm 100% on board with their choice. But I. I was already really attached to the baby, and I didn't want that option. And people would tell me, but, yes, you could control. You could control how your child's life goes. And I was like, no, I can't. If he were born with an IQ of 183, I couldn't control his life into a happy place. I can't control any of my children's lives. Damn, this sucks. So for a while it was like.
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Kathy Heller
Yeah, I can't control anything. This is horrible.
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Martha Beck
And then I thought, wait a second. If I could control all these other people in all these circumstances, how the hell would I keep track of it? That is.
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Dan Martel
Whoa.
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Martha Beck
That is too much responsibility for me. I wouldn't do it. Right. I wouldn't have enough energy. And I was like, oh, maybe I have been imagining that I am on an airplane and I am the only one who is bravely holding the airplane up in the air by pulling upward on the arms of my seat.
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Dan Martel
Right.
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Martha Beck
We don't control. Yeah. I mean, we can control things like our bladders. Sometimes these things are good. But to let go of control is not possible. There is only letting go of the illusion of control. And where do you land when you let go of the illusion of control? And Also, let go of all the stories in your head.
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Kathy Heller
To follow this thread of releasing control. I want to share a story that I told in a Kabbalah workshop I gave that really represents what the universe has in store for you. When you surrender and let it lead you. When you are available, you literally are in flow all the time. You're available to receive the miracle, so the miracle can happen. When you are available for a bigger reality than you could do yourself, that reality shows up in your life. Now, most of the time, the way that our mind works from the second we wake up, there's this constant headline which is, you've got to figure this out. You've got to figure this out. You've got to do this. You've got to do this, right? And what does it do? It takes us out of the miracle because we're not available for God's help. We're not available for grace. We're like, I've got this. And so we're blocking the flow, we're blocking the light. We're not available for the 99%. So the idea here is that it's always available and so much bigger than you could ever do yourself. If you. You could just perceive and have the certainty in what I just said. I'm going to tell you another story, and then we're going to talk about money. When I was in college, I started out as a Bachelor of Fine Arts. I was a theater major at Florida State University. They have a really good theater program. And I wound up dropping out my freshman year because I was really frustrated and I wanted to study anyway what life was really about. And I wound up taking classes in world religions and anthropology and philosophy. And I sort of gave up on the theater thing. But the reason that the theater thing had been important is because if you know anything about my personal family history, there's a lot about this. I write about my book. But for whatever the reasons are in my family, if you could become a performer, that was considered like the ultimate, you mattered. Right? My mom idolized people like Judy Garland. Right. My mom loved Fred Astaire, and there's a whole reason. And my grandfather was a dancer in the Catskills with Gregory Hines and his father. There's a whole reason why there was a certain amount of power and meaning given to that kind of performer, that kind of fame, right. My older sister, when I was in high school, was the lead in every single show. And she went to nyu, she went to Tisch for theater, which was no big surprise because she was Considered, like, the most talented kid in my high school. She won every single award. She won the awards for the state she was, you know, doing. She was at Juilliard when she was 18, performing in front of Diane Weiss, doing Shakespeare. Like, she was literally living out this sort of dream that my mom had set down for us when we were little. It was like it was in our cereal, so to speak, when we were growing up. And I always felt this big because I didn't have any of that going on in high school. And my parents, as I told you before, got divorced. And my parents saw so much in my sister that my dad didn't leave the house until she went to college. But as soon as she went to college, he left. He felt like he had gotten her off to nyu, and that was his big victory. And I was very much invisible and forgotten. And so when I got to college, I was like, okay, you know what? I'm going to drop out of this trying to be somebody thing. I don't even want to do theater. I'm going to go do something else and expand my mind. Long story short, my senior year of college, even though I had not been in the theater department this whole time, I saw that they were auditioning. The senior play was going to be the Diary of Anne Frank. And I just felt like, you know what? That show is so meaningful to me. I'm going to audition for it. And so I auditioned for this show, and many of you have been in my community. I was taking a walk this morning realizing, I don't think I've told you the story. So I auditioned for this show, and there's tons of talented people. In fact, I don't know any of you who know Emily Fletcher, but she went to my school. She was considered, like, the most talented girl in the Florida State Theater Department at that time. No surprise. She has so much charisma. Anyway, so I audition, and there's all these other people auditioning for these parts. And for whatever the reason, I get called back for the lead to play Anne Frank in the Diary of Anne Frank. And it comes down between me and this girl, Jamie. And we go through callback after callback, and our professor, the director, he was really deliberating about it. And I thought I was going to get it because I did the monologue, you know, when she says, I still believe in spite of everything, that people are good at heart, Like, I burst into tears. And I did this monologue so well. And we wind up getting to see the cast list, and I was not cast as the lead. And I went to see the director because I was sure that this was going to be my moment. Like, here I was, you know, I didn't have even a speaking line in the chorus or anything in high school. Nothing. And here I was my senior year of college. It was the last moment where I maybe could, you know, make good on that part of me that thought I would be worthy if I could finally do something like this, right in my mom's eyes and my dad's eyes. And I don't get the part. And I go to his office hours and I say to my director, what happened? Like, I really thought I had this part. And he says to me, the truth is, you were the best one. You. You have the chops. Like, this should have been your part. I said, so what happened? And he said, well, he said, you're five nine, and the woman who's playing your mother is shorter than you, and so is the woman playing your older sister. And he goes, and Jamie is 5:2. And he goes, at the end of the day, it just didn't make sense that you would be so tall because you're supposed to be, like, 13 years old. It doesn't make any sense. And I start crying because I realize, oh, my God. So the reason I don't get this part is 7 inches. That's the reason I don't get this part. Now, hold on. Because the story gets really good. So it was like madness to me. I was like, that's. That's so out of my control. Like, that's insane that I don't get this part because of my height. But it made all the sense in the world, like, why that makes sense, right? That just makes a lot of sense. It has to be believable that you're this little younger kid, and it doesn't make any sense. So weeks go by, and my sister, as I told you, was. She was an actress. She had gone to NYU, and she. @ this point, I was a senior, so she had already graduated from nyu and she was doing Broadway tours and. And working in New York City and doing tours and all of that. And weeks go by, and she calls me and says, I see that the poster goes up because now it's been a couple months, and I see that the diary Van Frank is going to be appearing at the school. And I realize that opening weekend is coming up, and I'm feeling so frustrated. Like, I can't believe I'm not a part of this cast. I know I'm graduating in a few you know, a few weeks after that, that was like the last hurrah. It was just interesting. So my sister calls me from New York and she says, I'm going to be in Florida. And I went to Florida State, which was in Tallahassee. She says, I'm going to be in Florida, I'm going to be in Orlando. I'm going on this weekend retreat with this rabbi who teaches Kabbalah. And I thought she was nuts. I was like, what are you talking about? That sounds crazy, but okay, good for you, right? Like eye roll, low key. Like what are you talking about? And this is before the days of iPhones or GPS, right? This is 2001. This is like April, April, May of 2001. I'm graduating college that June of 2001. So she says to me, why don't you drive down to Orlando because it's a four hour trip and I'll meet you there. And I'm thinking, okay, cool. And in those days, remember what we did, we had to print out like Math Quest and take an actual piece of paper, like a math, to tell us where to go and how to get to certain places. And if you wanted to talk to someone, remember there were no cell phones. You had to like figure out a way where they would leave you a message, you'd call your answering machine to hear the message. Things like that. Okay, so Saturday night of this, this weekend I drive down to see her and as I'm driving down I realize, oh my gosh, well this is interesting. It's opening weekend of the Diary of Anne Frank and I'm not going to be in town and huh, I wouldn't have seen my sister if I would have been in this show because I would have been, you know, in the show and she would have been in Orlando. But okay. And that just like that idea is in the back of my head. So I drive down. Long story short, I don't get a message from her. I decide to stay in a hotel because I was supposed to hear from her. And here I am like 21 years old, staying in a hotel in Orlando. By my. Actually I wasn't even 21 yet. I was 20, I turned 21 in June, right after I graduated. So I'm 20 years old, I stay in this hotel. I'm like, this is such a weird thing. Like why did I drive down here? I don't know where she is, I don't know how to get a hold of her. She said she was going to leave me a message on my answering machine, but she didn't. So the next day is Sunday. We were supposed to hang out that Saturday night and Sunday morning. And I don't hear from her. So I wake up on Sunday, and I have the map, and I'm trying to get to this retreat site, which is, like, in the middle of nowhere, like, behind a lake, like, it's so hard to get to. And I wind up getting lost. And I remember her saying that her flight leaves Orlando on Sunday at, like, 12:30 in the afternoon. But we could see each other Saturday night and Sunday morning. So here I am on a Sunday, and now it's like, 11:45. I'm lost. I don't know where I'm going. And finally it's like, 12:15 in the afternoon, and I pull up to this retreat site, and I start to cry because there's no one there. And I realize what just happened. Why. Why on earth did I get lost? Why on earth did I come. I don't know where she is. This was such a waste of a time. It doesn't make any sense. It was so random, and it doesn't. It's. Something just didn't feel right. So I'm about to get back, and I like, you know, remember in the movie Big when he goes back to try to find the Zoltar machine, and there's just, like, nothing there, but there's some, like, debris of, like, you know, cotton candy and wrappers on the ground. And there's a breeze, and you can tell something happened there, but there's nothing there. That's kind of how it felt like. It felt like some energy had happened at this campsite. And there's a volleyball net swinging in the breeze, but nobody's there. And it was just like this movie scene. And I took it in for a second, and I could kind of feel on some level that something had happened powerfully for my sister on this trip. And I felt this feeling of, like, I missed out on that, but I wasn't invited to it. And I was just standing there, and I'm about to get back in the car, and this man starts walking toward me, and he says, wait up. And I am about to get in the car, and I come around the car, and he says, are you Barbara Heller's sister? And I said, yeah. And he said, she just left for the airport, like, 35 minutes ago. She was trying to get a hold of you. She was telling us, you know, that you might be coming here. And I said, oh. And I. I start to cry because he had such a Loving kindness. And you know when you, like, need to cry and someone's finally, like, kind to you, the tears just start flowing. And he said, you know what's interesting? He said, I think you're crying because you're so sure that you drove down here and went through all of this because you were supposed to see your sister and you missed what you were supposed to have. And he said, but what if you actually came because you and I were supposed to have lunch or something? And I'm like, what? And he's like, yeah. Because he said, I don't even know why I just came out here. He said I was supposed to take a nap. And something told me to get up and walk outside, even though the last bus had left for the airport. Something told me to come outside, and there you are. And your sister kept saying that you and I need to meet you and I need to meet. She just knew it. And it was Rabbi Aaron. And I'm looking at this man. I've never met this man in my life. But he has, like, freckles and reddish hair, and he's talk about height. I'm five nine. He's like five foot, you know, he's just like this sweet little sprite of a person. And he goes, I just have one question for you. Do you like tuna fish? I'm like, what? He goes, let's go. He's like, I have some leftovers. Let's go in the kitchen. And we sit down and we talk until the sun set that day. And he said to me, h. It makes me cry. He goes, I don't even know why I'm going to say this, but you just told me you're graduating college in, like, eight weeks. I said, yeah. And he's like. He goes, would you like to come to Jerusalem and spend the summer and live with my wife and I and our seven children? Do you want to come live with us and just spend the summer? And I said, yeah, I don't even know. Like, I didn't even have any plans after college. And he's like, well, come. You have a space. Just come. Come be with us. And so it was the most mystical day of my life. I drive back to college the whole drive back. You know when you don't even need to listen to music because the music is the music in your heart, right? I get back to college. I call. I had a Mickey Mouse telephone. I call my sister, who's now landed in New York City. She goes, oh, my God, what happened? I'm so sorry. She's like, I tried to leave you a message. And by the time I left you a message, she's like, I didn't have the address and I didn't know what was going on. And anyways, a long story short, and I said to her, barbara, it all worked out. She goes, did you guys meet? Did you guys meet? I wanted you to meet so badly. I know you're supposed to meet each other. I go, he's the most special person I've ever met in my life. And she goes, yeah, I just spent four days with this big group. She goes, but I didn't have that one on one time with him. That's amazing that you had that. And she goes, wow, I'm so. And I said, but wait, there's more. I said, he invited me to come this summer to live with him and his family in Jerusalem. And I said, yes. And she goes, oh my God, that's so amazing. And I said, but I asked him if I could bring you. And she's like, you did. She's like, I can't believe you asked for that. It's like we're like, Anna, Elsa. And she goes, well, I don't know if I can go because I'm living in New York and I'm in between Broadway tours and I have this job and I don't know if I can go for the summer because I have to ask my boss. And it's like a perfect job because she had this job. And listen to the story, it gets better. She had the job that allowed her to have the job in between doing a Broadway national tour. And the job that she had was on the 52nd floor of the second tower of the World Trade center. And this is June of 2001. So she wasn't sure because she'd just come back from a tour. She loved her boss. Her boss always gave her a job in between being on tour. And you know how hard it is for an actor to have a steady job and also be able to make auditions, right? Anyway, so I wind up graduating from college, you know, June. So it's a few weeks later, it's my birthday. And of course on my birthday is the day that I'm on a flight leaving for Jerusalem. And my sister and I have a bunch of conversations in the weeks before this trip and we're deliberating if we should go or if she should go or not. And she also says to me, you know, it's not safe all the time in Israel and there's wars and are you going to be safe. And I'm like, I've never been more sure of anything in my life. Like, I'm going. And she decides to come, and she's like, I'll come for a few weeks, you know, and maybe not the whole summer, but my boss said I could come for a few weeks. And we both go and we have the most amazing time. And within days, we know that we're not just going to stay for the summer, that we're probably going to stay for a few years, which we did. And sure enough, a few months later, she and I were going to buy our first cell phones at a cell phone store in Jerusalem. And there's TVs on in the store. And we see on the news these two Twin Towers were hit by airplanes. We thought it was somewhere in Tel Aviv because we thought it was local news. Of course, it was New York City. And everybody in my sister's company, except for one person, was killed that day. And had my sister not come to Israel with me, she would have been in the towers. And the whole story is so powerful, and it's a true story. And if I would have been 7 inches shorter, none of those things would have happened. I would have played Anne Frank. I never would have gone there. I never would have met Rabbi Aaron. I never would have become the person I am today. I never would have brought my sister with me. And my sister would have been in the Twin Towers in September of 2001. So when you are, and this is really what I'm here to tell you, okay, when you are plugged in to the truth of the universe, you are always going to be in flow. When you stop trying to figure it out, when you really want to learn manifestation, this is where Kabbalah changes your life. Because 1% is what you see, and 99% is trying to give you the blessing. Trying so hard to give you a miracle, and you block that miracle when you think you have the whole picture and you're spending your time resistant and pissed and frustrated and in doubt and not feeling the connection to something so much bigger. And so if you were to ask me why is it that my life has felt like it's just one synchronicity after another. And I've been able to live this life that literally feels like a magic carpet ride, it's because of being in flow. It's because I'm so available. I'm so certain that it's not up to me to figure it out. My only job is to be certain that the God of My understanding, bigger than what I can see, is constantly moving the pieces around, constantly moving the chessboard. And when you live your life that way, and then it's an amazing feeling to wake up every day and say to God, I can't wait to walk into the synchronicity. I'm going to let you steer the ship today. You tell me where you want to go. My only job is to be at peace. My only job is to be certain. My only job is to surrender the control and let go and know that I am being guided all of the time, no matter what the mind tells you. And here's another beautiful story we heard this year from Dan Martel. His life began in such a turbulent way, and he turned it all around into something extraordinary. Tell us a little bit about your movie life story, which is actually.
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Dan Martel
I'll tell you the part that I don't share often that I think this audience specifically would appreciate. So I grew up in quite a bit of trauma and just challenges. I think most people do. Everybody has a different association, what that means. But my mom was an alcoholic. My dad wasn't around very much. He was, you know, trying to make ends meet. I'm the second oldest of four, grew up in a small town, eastern Canada. And I mean, I guess I had a lot of energy. I got diagnosed with ADHD when I was 11. But honestly, knowing what I know now, I was just a boy, you know, that was curious. So. But I got put on medication when I was like, Ritalin. And so, like, at a very young age, not only did, obviously I didn't know at the time, but there was a lot of, like, emotional abuse in the home and whatnot. But there was this sense that I was. I was different and I was broken. And that kind of frame just caused me to make a lot of bad decisions. And I ended up, you know, getting introduced to drugs when I was 13 and just my life literally spiraled out of control just because I was so intense with my approach to things. And, you know, I got taken out of my home at a young age, put into crisis centers and eventually foster care and get kicked out of foster care, put in group homes. And yeah, there's this, this point, you know, when I was 16, after going through, in and out of the system where essentially I was on the run from the police and I needed to get out of the city I was in. So I had a backpack with a handgun and I decided to steal a car, decided to go to Montreal. So I grew up in the east coast of Canada, in a small town. And on the drive to Montreal, I ran into a routine roadblock and got into a high speed chase and didn't have my driver's license. I was high and drunk at the time. I just remember telling myself before I sold the car that if I got stopped, I would pull the gun and let the cops take my life. And ended up coming around the corner, saw an open garage door, maybe watch way too many cop movies, thought I'll just hide in the garage and run out the back door, but end up smashing into the house and wasn't wearing a seat belt. So just the energy of that impact. But as soon as I realized what happened, I went for the gun and I found it. And as I pulled it out of the backpack, it got stuck between the seat, the armrest. And the bag essentially is an old duffel bag, army bag. And I just kept pulling on it and pulling on it because I wanted to, I didn't want to go back to jail. And for whatever reason, it didn't release. And the cops grabbed me and essentially flew me across the front yard and checked me out and forced me down and threw me in the back cop car. The reason why this is an interesting story and the part I usually don't get to tell is for a long time, I didn't believe in a higher power for a long time. I remember that next morning I woke up sober in that jail cell. And obviously when you hit rock bottom, you start looking for answers. And I just said, God, if you're real, this be a good time to tell me. And nothing happened. And so for like years, you know, every once in a while I would check in and try to read the Bible or talk to somebody spiritual. And the reason I get emotional thinking about it is knowing what I know now, I kind of laugh at myself to think that he wasn't there, he, she wasn't there. Like, it's, it's so beautiful, especially the way, you know, even though you say it's like, it reads like a movie. And I get it, it's just, it's wild. Like, how did I go from that to not only not taking my life, ending up killed in jail because I ended up doing six months in an adult facility, released to a rehab center where I did 11 months of programming. 11 months. Average person did six months. And at the end of this experience, I'm helping Rick the maintenance guy clean out one of the cabins on premise because it's built in an old church camp. And I discovered this old 486 computer and a yellow book on Java programming sitting next to it. And that literally became my new addiction. I just opened up the book and it spoke to me. And I just tapped into this computer and got the computer to say, hello, world. And that was the moment where I was like, oh, maybe that's why my brain works the way it does. And maybe this is what I should be doing with my life. And so to. To like, then watch again. You know, you can't really connect the dots unless you look backwards. Like in my deep faith I have today. Oh, so grateful. So, yeah, that's the part that is. It's really.
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Kathy Heller
Cool. One of the big aha moments I had this year was when I talked to the awesome Jim Fortin. He said something about the true foundation of personal transformation. I think it's such an important lesson. So just from that point of the subconscious mind, can you give us a little bit of what might help be a bridge for people today where they could start to understand more of how to really understand that model and how to change what just seems like Groundhog Day? Like they're just going to keep living Groundhog Day because.
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Jim Fortin
They.
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Kathy Heller
Yeah. They don't yet know how to really disrupt and create a new pattern for.
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Jim Fortin
Real. That's a. It's a beautiful question. And that, number one, you talk about your mom in the personal development industry. That industry is broken for the consumer. That works very well for the information providers. Now what I mean by that is the information providers you can go to, and I have not been in years. I live in Sedona. We don't have any bookstores here, but I used to live in Dallas. And you can go into Barnes and Noble and there's a whole section of personal development. And you might see, literally, I don't know, 20, 50, 100 diet books. So people buy all these books from all these authors from all these diets. Now the person buying the book is buying it because they have the air quote, problem or challenge of being overweight, overeating, whatever it is. So let's slow down there. I'm buying the dot, not me. But a person is our money book or whatever. They're buying the diet book because they have a problem they're trying to solve. Then the diet book tells you how to solve the problem. What people are looking at is what is the identity subconsciously of the person having the problem. So you buy the diet book and it tells you do A, B, C, D and E. They're all external behaviors. Meaning, I'm just making this Up. But, you know, calories in versus calories out. You know, get rid of the junk food in your house. Actually, all these basic exercise, whatever, you read it, you've got a plan and you're like, oh, okay, I can follow the plan. But what's never factored in here? And people don't know, number one, most people aren't even in personal development. And then those that are don't even know what sharing with you now. So I read the book and I'm like, okay, I got a plan of attack for my money or my body or whatever it is. But what's never changed is the identity of the person reading the content. That's why I call it content versus context. I can read a book all day long about money, health, wellness, whatever it's content. But if my context is broke or overweight or whatever, whatever I read, my brain is automatically going to filter it out because it's inconsistent with my subconscious identity. Whatever we are at the identity level is who we be and what we do naturally. A great example for 80, 70% of your listeners because many don't work with you, but they listen. And kudos for that is they're struggling with money, which is probably a reason people seek you out. They resonate with your frequency and vibration, but they struggle with money and they gather good content. And they've read all the Wayne Dyer books and Deepak Chopra, and they've read all the books and the money books by, I don't know, Grant Cardone and all these people. And it sounds good on paper, but they can't integrate it. And if they can't integrate it, the content is of no value. So we have to shift at.
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Kathy Heller
A core identity level on that topic of identity shift. Here's an example of that in action from the delightful Sabrina Soto. Let's just start with how the heck did you wind up getting to live this super creative, delicious, sparkly.
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Sabrina Soto
Life? Well, first of all, thank you for having me on. And secondly, for anybody listening, it's going to be. It's quite a ride. And goes to show that you can create anything you want out of nothing. And I remember Michael Beckwith said that on the Secret, and it's the Secret, really, that changed my life. I was living in a. Okay, like, life. I had was newly married. I was in a job that was like nine to five. I was making good money, but I was miserable, miserable in this job. I knew I didn't belong there. I remember sitting in Baja Fresh waiting for a burrito, and it was like the Lunch rush. And I just remember going, I don't belong here. And not that I don't love Baja Fresh and I love their burritos. It was just like, I knew that I didn't belong in a lunch rush, that I want to do something creative. And I just felt stuck because I was making good money and I was like, married to a good guy and we lived in a cute house, but I just felt stuck. And my girlfriend told me about the secret. And Kathy. It was as if something turned on inside of me. Like, oh, my God, I forgot. Even though nobody had ever introduced these concepts to me, it was almost like I had known, like my soul knew them. That night I fell asleep and I was convinced that I was going to change my life. The next morning, I couldn't. I thought there was a knock at the door, which there wasn't, and I couldn't go back to sleep. And I went on Craigslist. And there was a.
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Kathy Heller
Job. Oh, my.
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Sabrina Soto
Gosh. Somebody, they were looking for a designer that TV credit. And I was not a designer who had TV credit. I had been on tv, like doing host jobs here and there. And maybe I helped a few.
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Kathy Heller
Friends design, like a few.
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Sabrina Soto
Things. And I had some photos and I'm like, you know what? Eff it, let me just send it. And that was my first HGTV job. Sixteen weeks later, I was on set filming my first HGTV show that I, by the way, had no business teaching people how to even paint their houses because I didn't know what I was doing. So every day I would show up freaked out because the producer would be like, okay, we're gonna film you painting this.
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Kathy Heller
Room. I'm like, oh, my God. I don't really know how to.
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Sabrina Soto
Paint. So every night I went to this store called Books a million in D.C. and I got every book I can get my hands on about design, diy, carpentry. And it was almost like I was in design university by myself every night. So it's not about faking until you make it. Yes, we all have to do that. It's about when you get that opportunity. You better do whatever you have to to educate yourself to be the best that you can be for that.
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Kathy Heller
Opportunity. Okay, let's just unpack. Because this is like the makings of like, my favorite movie. And your life is like a movie. This is the Matrix. This is the portal through the looking glass at Baja Fresh that everybody can access wherever they're equivalent is of Baha Fresh in this moment. So what happened in that moment? You Saw, like a drone view of your life and what switched inside of you that you were willing to, like, believe in a greater possibility. What happened? Help me understand what's happening in you in that.
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Sabrina Soto
Moment. It was when I watched the Secret and one of every teacher was saying, like, you can manifest your dreams. So that next morning when I couldn't sleep, you have to understand. Yes, I sent my Craigslist stuff out, but I didn't hear back for a long time. But what changed that next day was I started eating differently. I started working out. Like, I was getting ready to be on tv, which nobody was calling me, Kathy. But I just knew in my soul I was going to get an opportunity. I just didn't know where it was gonna come. I believed that the universe had my back, but I had nothing to solidify that in my life. So even though, like, I was married at the time, my husband thought I was crazy. He's like, what are you doing? Why are you working out so much? I got, like, a cute outfit to wear for an audition. An audition which, by way, I didn't even have.
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Monica Berg
Yet. But.
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Sabrina Soto
It. I convinced myself that the universe was going to bring it one way or another. And so I just lived my life according to that rule. And I wasn't wrong, because then I finally got a call and that stupid outfit he told me not to buy I wore to that audition. And I felt good in my body because I had been taking care of myself up until that point. So I remember being on the. Because back then, ellipticals were really hot. So I remember being on the elliptical listening to probably, like, Eminem and going like, I am basically practicing for the.
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Kathy Heller
Opportunity. Okay, so this is so good. Essentially what you're saying is you changed the identity of who you believed you were. That's right. Once you told yourself the truth about who you really were, all of your energy, the being of who you were, being changed, which made you then do things differently. Another unbelievable story we heard this year was from my friend Amber Ray about how she met a stranger who completely turned her life upside down. I just remember you even saying that. And I was like, oh, my God, how I have been self abandoning to keep everything status quo. I was like, Amber is like Joan of Arc. Like, what is coming out of you in no uncertain terms will liberate so many human beings. So let's go. Tell us a little bit, a tiny bit of what you feel like you do want to tell about this.
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Amber Ray
Story. Yeah. And I just want to put a pin because I love what you said. About that perspective and point of view, because people always ask me, oh, do you. You stayed in that relationship for nine years. Do you wish you would have left sooner? Do you look at it like a failure? And I'm like, no, it was actually a great success because I became who I am and he became who he was in the container of that love. And it took us where we needed to go. But, like, sometimes growth means growing apart. And so I just like love. I'm like, yes. If only that could be the. How liberating it.
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Kathy Heller
Was. That was.
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Amber Ray
Gorgeous. Yeah, that's what we saw as. As, you know.
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Kathy Heller
Gorgeous.
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Amber Ray
Yeah. Anyway, so, okay, the story. Four years ago, while married, I looked into the eyes of a stranger and I had this feeling of hello again. It was like this electricity that was also calm. It was just this, like, opening in my body of, oh, it's you. And it was the craziest moment because it was like time. I was on a different. I don't even know how to describe it, like time playing time slowed down. And when I looked into the universe in his eyes, it was just. I have goosebumps down my entire body as I say this. It was just like, oh, this is what it's supposed to feel like. And you know, my intuition, my body knew, but of course my mind was like, slow down, lady. Like, you're insane. Like, you're married. You're building this project with your husband. We had just left New York in the pandemic and moved to Baja, Mexico. We were building out this land project and I had made my husband my then husband, my business partner, trying to get the closeness that I was so longing for years into our relationship and are just, you know, good person, just not my person. And we tried so long to make it work and therapy and self help books and all the workshops and, you know, doing all the things. Because I was terribly afraid to admit to myself that, like, this isn't it and he's not my person. And there was so much that actually did work in the relationship which made it more difficult to admit that because he was my best friend, I enjoyed him, I enjoyed his company and. But he was my best friend and he wasn't my romantic partner. And so when I, like, looked into the eyes of this other person, it was like, oh, you're like, you're my romantic partner. You're the father of my children. Which felt insane because I did not know him and he was literally a stranger, but I knew. So, you know, the story starts there and, you know, it explores my Leaving both, like, the identity and roles that weren't serving me anymore. The pleaser, the harmonizer, the good, the good wife, the who I thought I needed to be to be loved, as well as, like, leaving, you know, the relationship and stepping into what felt most aligned and.
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Kathy Heller
True. And here's another clip about manifesting love from one of my favorite authors and friends, Rebecca Searle. So Expiration Dates is her new book and it's great. So tell us a little bit about that origin.
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Rebecca Searle
Story. Expiration Dates is about a woman, Daphne Bell, who every time she meets a man, she receives a slip of paper with his name and a number on it. And that number is the exact amount of time that they'll be together. So, I mean, I, for a really long time, wanted to write about the search for love, but I was really. I didn't really know what it was that I was trying to say. Like, was it that everything I thought I was looking for wasn't actually meant for me and I had to, like, let go of my vision of what love was in order to find the thing that I was meant for? Was it like. No, keep going. Everything you think you're meant for, you are. Like, I didn't know. But I really wanted to write this book for a long time. And I remember reading my editor and telling her about the book. I was like, you know, I have this idea it's about this woman who gets these of the paper. And it's. But it's really about the search for love. It's about all of these different relationships and. And kind of like how you find meaning and, you know, and how you find kind of the quote unquote ending that is like, meant for you. And I said, like, I think if I write it honest, he'll be there at the end of it. And I ended up meeting my husband like six weeks after I finished the book, because I think that I was. For so long, I was waiting to write this book until I knew what the answer was. And finally I was like, fuck it. I want to tell this story. And I don't know how it's going to turn out, but I want to tell it. And I kind of, like, wrote my way to him in a way in that book. And everybody says he's like one of the characters in the book, which is really kind of sweet. And it just has a lot of, I think, what it means to be single. What it means to be single in your 20s. I think probably more specifically what it means to be single in your 30s. And I just had a lot to say that I wanted to put somewhere. And so I'm very excited that this book exists. It was a long time.
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Kathy Heller
Coming. This year, I also had the honor of talking to Monica Berg, and she said something so profound about desire that deserves repeating. One of the things that's also so interesting about, I think, Judaism in and of itself and the way we talk about the aspect of this in Kabbalah specifically is the word desire. Because that is such a taboo word. That is a word that people associate with filth. That is a word that has become so shamed. Yes. That when you're talking to people in Kabbalah circles, the word desire is the complete opposite of that. The word desire is like, oh, my gosh, like, this rot zone, this desire that you have, like, it should just grow and expand. And it's like, say what? Like, I was raised to believe that I should quell, you know, dampen any level of desire. So can you help us understand how desire becomes a holy thing, a righteous thing, a beautiful thing, a gift, when we've been taught something so different about.
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Monica Berg
That? It's human nature and pure to desire. If you look at a child, right when they come out of the womb, they desire to be held and to be loved, and they desire to be fed and taken care of. That desire is innate in our existence or what happens. And this is where it gets confusing for people. If your desire is connected to your ego versus your soul, the things that you're desiring are probably things that are not good for you, that create a short circuit for you and the universe. So it becomes this thing of, like, oh, they desired so much. All we have to do is define for people, where is your desire rooted in what is it connected to? Is it connected to things that are eternal, that will last even long after we're not in this physical body? Or is it connected to things that are just to feed yourself alone? And, of course, those kinds of things tend to be a little bit uglier. Right. But desire in itself, I mean, there's so many words that have changed over time, and that means something else. But if we go back and we look at the root of it and if we really look at it from a spiritual perspective, of course it makes sense. We never stop desiring. If once we stop desiring, we no longer can stay in the physical body, and then the soul has to.
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Kathy Heller
Leave. It's so fascinating because, you know, so many people have really embraced yoga, mindfulness. There's so much beauty to the Eastern practices. So Much beauty. So I have so much deep love for Eastern tradition, and I have practiced it. I've spent years studying mindfulness and meditation. I became certified to teach it, love it. And in that vertical, okay, all suffering comes from desire. And so really the idea of so much of that world is that if you don't want to suffer, you just. You feel satisfied with nothing, right? There's like this, this way in which. And so people sometimes think that, like, well, I know what I'll do. I just won't want anything. I'll just be so satisfied with not turning on the pilot light under this bigger dream, this bigger vision, right? And it's interesting because there's a part of us that just won't let go of what we desire. And so then you feel bad about it and you feel guilty for it. It's like, no, what if there's a way that all of it gets to make.
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Monica Berg
Sense? I have the answer. It's one word because it's so interesting, because there is truth in what you said, but it's missing one key fundamental word. The reason that we have pain. It's because what we desire is because we have an attachment to the.
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Kathy Heller
Desire. That's the only.
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Monica Berg
Thing. You work on the attachment part, and then you're fine, keep desiring, but you're not going to be attached to whether you get it or not, or if you keep it or not, or the outcome or not. And that word attachment, that's code for ego. And that is the big shift that has to happen. And that's what creates transformation. Non attachment to physical things. Desire them, but non attachment to it. And then, you know, keep going for forward, desire away. That's the only word that's missing from that sentence for it to be a true.
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Kathy Heller
Statement. So to piggyback on the idea of non attachment, we're going to wrap this up with a piece from a coaching call that I did about how to let go of the outcome and step into flow and let your life be like jazz. Our mind will convince us that in order for us to find fulfillment, there are all these things that need to be done. There is only one thing that has to be done, which is the full and total radical acceptance of yourself from the deepest place. Yeah, like a guttural battle cry of like, this is the Cheryl Strayed Wild is like, I have come to fully love and accept and acknowledge and be sovereign with all my parts. Because when there is shame, we can't manifest because we are completely out of wholeness. When there is any Critic living inside of our lived experience. You cannot manifest. It's like tying your hands. You can't do it. You can't play the piano with your hands tied. You can't play the music. It's shame. All of this is like the constant comparing and talking yourself down. It's like you're speaking down to yourself, right? And that is separating you from God. It's separating you. You know, I was talking to somebody today who said to me in a tax, he wants to give me a gift because I affiliated for him. So he wants to offer me free coaching, which is like, I'm fine, but I don't really want it. But I'm like, okay with it. And I can't commit to him on a time because I think I'm not all in. Yeah. And he's like, text me. He's like, you're all over the place and you can't commit. The only thing you can commit to is non committal. And I was like, ooh, that's such a juicy thing to say. It's also very, like, direct, I guess, or maybe rude, I don't know. But then I was like, I love that about myself that I'm all over. That's like, what I love about myself. Like, actually, I was like, oh, my God. And. And I was like, oh, I wonder if there's a way in which being all over the place is my rebellion that keeps me from having more ease. Like, I probably could add a little a touch of structure, because, like, God, do I have. And I was like, in inquiry. I was like, what do I have against structure? I was like, oh, I hate structure. And then I was like, well, that's like a little girl thing. That's weird. But my point is, I could be in that juiciness because there's no judgment too soon. I was like, well, the Kathy Heller that I like, perform, the girl, the avatar, I totally made her rebel against structure. But I love that about her. But, like, is that childish? Is there a part of that that's, like, exhausting her? Because it's interesting, right? I can do that where I'm like, I love this girl. Like, she can be a hot mess, of course, but I love her. Right? I think that's what Charlotte and I are saying in unison. And right there is the unlock, right? Does that make.
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Coaching Call Participant
Sense? It makes complete sense. I feel like I just get lost because I feel like I have this pattern that is in, right? Like, my past self of, like, not doing it, and therefore I don't build Confidence and, like, round and round we go. So I keep looking back here to stay safe, and I hear both of you of, like, there is a radical acceptance that I have absolutely not stepped into that is also holding me back. But I get caught in, like, so do I just sit here and be radically accepting and, like, continue doing that? But that's.
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Kathy Heller
Not. Well, what we're saying is if there is a judger that's present for good reason, your intuition is going to say, I'm not doing it with.
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Amber Ray
You.
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Kathy Heller
Right? So even in the question, you're saying, so I just accept myself for just sitting around and being lazy. And it's like, no, the acceptance is the moment you'll move your ass because it's the intention that creates it. Right? If I tell my daughter, okay, you're going to prepare for your Bat Mitzvah, you need to get every word right. When you get up there, you have 10 months and every family member is going to be there. And, I mean, you just need to nail it then. If she was a healthy person, she should go. You know, I was thinking, I don't want to have one. But if I were to say to her, hey, this is a beautiful tradition, if you feel up for it, it would be awesome. I think we'd all love to, like, punctuate the moment. The whole idea is that you do your best and feel good and feel like you're entering into some covenant with the God that loves you. So I want you to love this, and if at any point something about it doesn't feel good, let's talk about it. Because it's a day to celebrate this amazing path that you get to choose to walk with God for the rest of your life, as you always have, but now as an adult, right? So it's a rite of passage. Now she might say, let's go. Right? So for really good reason. Many people I know don't start their podcasts because they know they're going to be mean to themselves. They're going to be perfectionist. It's yet another thing they're going to shame themselves about. So that's actually really healthy and smart. I free myself from doing anything perfectly, which is why I'm like, I got this. Because I'm not going to bring with me a judger. She's not going to help me. Also, what if you're not that powerful? Meaning to say, what if the reason that you haven't ever gone all in is because it's not been in divine timing? Meaning to say, what if when God wants exactly the timeline of what needs to be created. Somehow, some way, we get it done. Like, I wonder. I don't even know if part of the reason that you didn't start or whatever, right. Everything I just said, I agree that that's part of it. But also, it's like it might not have been the thing. It was almost the thing. Even if it was adjacent to the thing, it's still not the thing. So you kind of know that. And most people create a lot of mediocrity until they finally actually pull.
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Amber Ray
The car.
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Kathy Heller
Over, take a beat, and then they go make something really powerful. And so what's better? I don't know, like, just making stuff or pausing. Because there's a part of you that's really wise that said, this isn't it yet. And it could be that when you went to do this thing yesterday, part of it is there's still something about the level of intention and consciousness that's the DNA of this that you want to sink into before you start on the wrong foot, you know, on a footing. That's like, not what you want to breathe into the life, right? Because the energy by which they say, like, if you're cooking dinner for someone, the energy of how you felt in that kitchen, it's in the food, right? And so there's a part of you that wants to be congruent with yourself. And then there really is not even a. And this is the truth. When you are. You don't really have a moment where you start things because you don't know where you stop and God begins. Things just flow. We don't have to, like, tell ourselves, you know, it just is, you know? I think about Charlotte, you and I. Like, when did it, like, decide? I don't know. I never interviewed her. We never decided. It was like she was there and I sensed her and she sensed me, and then this and that. And it's just like. It's just like, oh, we're dancing. Like, it's like, we didn't have to decide to begin. It just begins. You just show up for people and you don't even know why you're doing it. You just feel right when you do it, Then they feel right about it. Then it feels like reciprocity. Next thing you know, you just built something. You can't believe what you built. You weren't even trying to build it. You didn't even think you were building it, but you were. And so all of this is like in the coming home to the wild, beloved, fullest Authentic version of yourself. It's like that's where you meet God and next thing you know you're just moving. There's not much thought about it. The thinking about all of these things is telling me it's still not coming from like I'm in overflow and I'm just sharing this from this soul level. It's more still like is this going to get me the grade? Am I going to finally believe in myself? Is this going to create the outcome? And none of that is the reason that you should do anything. Right. It comes out of just like I just feel called. I don't even know why. I don't know how to describe it. It's just the next thing I'm called to do. It's not this way in which I'm just making arbitrary steps because someone told me that this is where success is. It's on this ladder. There is no ladder. Does that make.
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Coaching Call Participant
Sense? It makes a ton of sense. Yeah. I feel like you're speaking right to myself. Like and then there's this piece for me of like. Well I, I've been just being. I've been sitting on the side like there's this. Yeah, still this piece of like. Well if you're not in any action, nothing will show up. Right. So I hear you. Like I don't want to.
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Kathy Heller
Create. Well, you haven't been just being. You've been the opposite. You've been an overthinking analysis. Keeping myself from that is not what we are loving you into and encouraging you into. We're not saying so when you're not dancing in flow, you should sit and overthink and criticize yourself constantly to the point where you.
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Coaching Call Participant
Paralyze. Yeah, I hear.
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Kathy Heller
That. Right. What we're saying is when you step forward it will be into the unknown. You will choose the mystery and then you can go. Because now it's a dance, now it's in flow, now it's going to work because you're letting go of control of trying to predict how your sense of safety is going to come every time. It's like the safety is in walking into the mystery. That's when the movie gets good. Right. So everything about not choosing to start is the sure footedness of I need to know the 15 things that are going to be the outcome. And I can already predict I'm not going to get that feeling. Because the journey you want to take is the journey home to God, home to the flow state, home to a dance that's better than any predictable piece of sheet music. You want it to be jazz. Jazz happens in real time. No one knows the next note. That's why it's amazing. Miles Davis said. Let's go. Giddy up. So that's a wrap for 2025. I want to thank you so much for being with us this year. I am so excited for what's to come for 2026. Make sure that you follow along on Apple Podcasts or Spotify wherever you're listening and if you loved any of the episodes that we've done, please share this show with a friend of yours. In fact, this January reset that we're going to do together, I'll be live with you every single day. If you want to try it, come try it. If you want to bring a friend with you and keep each other accountable to start your year with intention and just to see what could possibly change. How could 2026 be better and be really what you've wanted your life to be like? If you start your year with this kind of practice and I'll be there with you, live every single day and you can try it, go to kathyhough.com trial and you can bring a friend with you that would be awesome to have you. And also, just because we have so many amazing reviews, I wanted to read one of them right now. So this one says love five stars. I connect so much with Kathy. I'm so grateful to have found her. And that's from Sarah Jess Love, thank you so much. It really always lights me up to hear how much you're enjoying the show. So if you haven't left a review, please do. But I am so excited to begin this year with you guys. If you want to join us and have a breakthrough as opposed to hitting repeat on what you experienced last year and make this year for certain different, go to kathyhoe.com reset I love you so much. I'm wishing you the healthiest, most blessed new year and I will talk to you again in.