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Everything Is Energy with Cathy Heller
Rudi Riekstins on Self-Love, Divine Purpose & Quantum Shifts
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Kathy Heller
Let me ask you something.
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What would shift if you actually trusted.
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Before we get started, I just want.
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To let you know, in case you missed it, we did a mini episode on Friday and I played a piece of this morning activation that I recorded for you guys. If you want the full eight minutes of it, it's free. Go to kathyheller.com Pep Talk Basically, this is an eight minute meditation that I recorded that's really like an activation. You can like play it every single morning. It helps you start your day remembering how to tap into your vibration and it really helps you have the best day ever. And it's free. So go to kathyheller.com pep talk and grab the whole eight minutes and listen to it. And if you like it and if it helps, send me a DM and let me know how you enjoyed it. All right, today on the podcast, I'm going to introduce you to someone so amazing. My friend, Rudy Rickstiens. He's a renowned leadership visionary. He's a business mentor. He's an energetic high performance coach. He's so amazing. He's worked with elite leaders and organizations worldwide to unlock extraordinary success. I first met Rudy on his podcast, the Empowered Podcast. You should definitely listen to his show. And I immediately loved his energy and how much he made me feel so seen. He's just such an incredibly kind person. So I'm just so thrilled that we can continue the conversation here. And this was just one of my favorite conversations I've ever had on my podcast. Rudy has this rare Combination of depth and spiritual wisdom and crystal clear language. The way he talks about things just cuts right to the truth. So today we're going to talk about how to actually create quantum shifts in every area of your life, how to respond when life feels unfair, and why Self love is not just a cute concept, but. But it's the root code that determines your relationships, your money, your purpose, and your peace. This is going to be such a valuable episode for those of you who are wondering. I guess I'm doing the meditations, I'm doing the work. But why isn't the money or the love or the opportunity here yet? Rudy has such a magnificent way of breaking things down and explaining why it works. So I know this episode is going to land in your heart in such a big way. Without further ado, please welcome the incredible Rudy Rickstein.
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Rudy, I just want to tell you, first of all, I felt such warmth and connection to you when I was on your podcast. So we're definitely going to link that because you are such an extraordinary human being. You are so good at celebrating other people, seeing other people, and there are a lot of smart people who say a lot of interesting things. But to really embody such loving kindness and presence. I've been on many, many shows. I can tell you that I've probably never felt as seen as I was on your show. And I just think that that's such a testament to how loving of a person you are, which is why I'm not surprised that you've manifested so much in your life, because we manifest from that level of our heart. So I just need to start by saying thank you for. For that.
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Rudy Riekstiens
Can I just say that that is the most beautiful gift that I think I've been given? And you used such beautiful terminology, being seen. We all aspire so deeply and profoundly to truly be seen. And in that introduction, which I would argue is probably the best introduction I've ever had, is being seen and mirroring back. And so I just want to thank you for that incredible gift. You know, I have followed you for years. I love your journey. I love how you teach. I love who you are and how you represent yourself in all areas of life, not just in here's how we make money or here's how we, you know, be the best parent. Just it just in being who you are. Interviewing you was such an interesting journey for me because I almost didn't want to. And I want to explain to your audience why I love you from afar. I love how you show up and how you represent Life and what it can look like to be an embodied version of the work. But I interview so many incredible people and they are rarely off camera who they presume to be on camera. And you were just so like, I want to say the same version that you are online as you're offline. We were talking moments before hitting record today. You're the same person. And so I just want to challenge everyone that follows you to just love you so much more because you really are authentically who you are. So thank you for the space.
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Kathy Heller
First of all, I received that. That is incredibly generous. You see, I am so right, you guys, about everything I just said about him. Thank you. It's incredibly generous. And also, you're so good looking and gorgeous that I'm like, it's not supposed to be this way. Like, is it like, does God really get you?
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Rudy Riekstiens
It's a filter. It's a zoom filter.
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Kathy Heller
Yeah, you and your wife and your family and where you live and like you just, it's as above, so below. It's all so good. So let's now get into what really is the most beautiful thing about you, which is your energy and the path that you've taken to curate such a beautiful vibration. Let's talk about where that started for you. Like what was that path for you as a seeker? And what was that first unlock for you? What was the first truth or the first piece of wisdom that really helped you to shift and make that first quantum leap?
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Rudy Riekstiens
You know, that is such a unique way of asking the question. And I don't know if I could necessarily pinpoint it to a particular day or a particular moment. Moment. What I would share with you is that I think every single one of us already innately knows. And it's about the remembering, the unfolding of, the remembering of really who we are. I just remember being a very young boy in kindergarten, so I couldn't have been five, six years old and already knowing that when you're mean to somebody that it comes back to you. And that when somebody is being a bully, perceivably a bully, that I would want to stand up for people. But I didn't know why. I just knew it was the right thing to do. And I remember the boys in my, my friend group were picking on a girl and she was overweight and had funny teeth and. And they were just being mean, picking on her. And I remember getting up with a broken heart from the boys. We were all sitting on a floor on a carpet and I went and sat with her and they Were like, if you sit with her, you know, then you're like her. And I was like, yeah, I. I'll willingly be. And I just remember feeling that so deeply at that age of, like, I know how that feels, but I hadn't felt that before, if that makes any sense. And so I always just knew that we, in any moment, had an opportunity to either uplift or inspire or to create additional separation and pain. And so my life has been more of an unfolding of that journey. My mom has always been a seeker. She would sit me down and speak to me about karma and right and wrong and energy and attachment and all these conversations that, in her way, was just helping me unfold. I believe that we pick who we're going to be born to. The environments, the relationships, the people. And I so beautifully and divinely picked my family because it was putting me in an environment to really remember who I am. But the answer to your question really is. At 16 years old, I was sitting in a high school gymnasium, and I felt broken as a boy. And I wasn't good enough. I wasn't worthy. I didn't feel that I was smart enough. I remember as a young boy, looking in a mirror and being so angry at God. God, because I. I was like, why do I not have any talents? Like, the kids in my class, they can sing. The kids in my class are smart. Other kids in my class, you know, they are rich. And we're not like, I just looked at everything in my life, and all of it was telling me, you're not worthy. And those boys that I grew up with were mostly, you know, bullies to everybody, you know. And so I just really, really struggled as a young boy. But at 16 years old, it was almost like the accumulation, compounded feelings of just unworthi. I sat in that gymnasium, and a teacher had walked a parent onto the stage, and he happened to be a business coach. And he walked in and he said to the room, you can have and be and do and achieve anything. And I just remember in that moment feeling God, come down and touch me and say, rudy, I want you to pay attention. Now. These obviously were not the words, but I. I felt this whisper in my ear of, like, this. This is what you will do with your life. And I felt for the first time in my life, purpose. For the first time in my life, a remembrance. And it was like. Like my world changed in that moment. And I remember nobody else's world seemed to change. Everybody just went back to being normal. But in that moment, it was like Now I knew who I was and what I was meant to do. The real journey is that it. It took me 20 more years to step into that because I had to go through that level of. Of unfolding. And why I love your question so much is because it's not so much about my unfolding, but for the benefit of the audience that's listening. If you're listening to this today, you know, ultimately you get to decide who do you want to be, but internally, you are receiving those nudges, you're receiving those remembrances, and you don't have to wait the 20 more years to navigate or to work through, but instead to stand in the knowingness of who you are. And so I love the question, but the answer for the individual is more important. You know, what is it that you've come here to be? And who have you come here to be? And. And how could you just allow yourself to be that now without looking for the external validation, which I did.
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Kathy Heller
First of all, you're such an incredible speaker. You have so much to say, and you're also so enthusiastic, and there's so much wisdom in how you deliver not just what you're saying, but how you're saying it. That story about the little girl and the teeth and the carpet and all the things that you shared with us is really like such a giant thing in the resume of your life. It's really so powerful. And I think every single person listening can relate to a feeling of either not belonging or knowing that it didn't feel good when they were part of a group that made others feel like they didn't belong. And it's so intrinsic to the human experience that I am just really touched that as a little boy, you, even though said candidly, I didn't have that experience, but still I knew, like, I related on some level, and I wanted to sit there and I just wish we could make a movie of your life and show that scene, because everyone would be in tears. You know, it's these things, like these big things that happen around the world, sometimes they don't even make as much of a difference as the little everyday things like those little paper cuts that everyone actually experiences. And they teach the same fundamental lesson, sometimes in an even bigger way. So I'm really happy that you shared that story, and I'm really impressed that you were that kid, but I'm not surprised because you're that same person now. And I love that story about being in the gym and that guy who shared all of that. But what's Even cooler is that you are doing that with your life now and your words. You know, the Talmud says, words from the heart enter the heart. And yours are. That's the thing. So on some level, that guy who is speaking it really was from the embodiment place. So it penetrates. It affected you. You actually took it in. And that is so powerful that we literally give each other WI fi. Like we can actually tap in and turn each other on to our alignment into such a place of a higher consciousness. It's so powerful that anyone who's listening, just think about how you could be a blessing for someone like that today. And then 20 years later, 30 years later, 42 years later, they're still talking about it. It's really awesome. So I'm curious what those next 20 years were like, just because you. You hinted at them. And I do think for listeners, that's actually important too, like that circuitous route, because often we're on it, and yet the detour is usually not a detour. There's usually things we're picking up along the way that are building the momentum. So can you tell us a little bit about those 20 years and then what happens next?
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Rudy Riekstiens
Oh, my gosh, I love that. So let's talk about life as layering of a cake. And you said something that most people want to skip over. They think that life, when it has shifts and turns, is that they're being derailed, but instead you're being qualified and. Or prepared. And so when you create a shift, when you say, oh, I'm. I'm deserving deep, you know, committed love, and then you get divorced or you have a breakup or somebody cheats on you or you lose your business. Those are not the derailments. Those are the. The shifts into the alignments. And so we can hear it, but in the moment, we forget it. And so I was perfectly being prepared and perfectly being qualified to be who it is that I am. I do think that when we speak from the heart, we connect to the heart. I do believe that when we speak from truth and authenticity, that people that are ready for it will resonate with it. And people resonate with information that they are ready for at the time that they're ready for. And so the planting of the seed is always being planted, but it only germinates when the student is ready, so to speak. And so I was born into a family that didn't have a tremendous amount of physical things, but we had a lot of love. We had tremendous love. And so, you know, I have Two brothers, Mom and dad, they still marry, married today. We're all really, really close and we had a lot of love, but we didn't have houses and cars and nice things. And we grew up in what would be like an Orange county esque part of South Africa, Just lots of wealth. My friends were given houses for birthdays at 16, you know, they were cars and just all kinds of opulence. And so we were constantly reminded we weren't enough. So my 20 year journey was, in my limited understanding was that, well, I need to have wealth. If I have wealth, then people will listen to me. And if people listen to me, then I can create the impact. And so I didn't have money, so I couldn't go to college. And that was very much the barrier of entry. It wasn't necessarily from a grade perspective. And so my parents couldn't afford to send me to college. I couldn't get a college tuition, I had to go straight into work. And so I had all these hurdles that were just saying to me, you're not good enough. And I eventually set a goal that I was going to be a millionaire. And if I could be a millionaire 25 years old, then people would say, oh well, that boy who came from nothing is, is as good as us. He finally fits the room. And so I went into work and I worked seven days a week. I pushed myself more than you could possibly imagine. And I did not make a million dollars by 25, but I was a multimillionaire by 26 and I never stopped to celebrate it. I actually received a birthday letter from my younger brother on my 26th birthday who said, I' so proud of you. You finally did it like you achieved your goal in your 25th year. And when I read it, I actually burst into tears because in that moment I realized I had achieved the goal of creating what I wanted, but I had yet to feel the result of it. And so the money didn't do anything. I remember sitting on my birthday on my 26th year in a penthouse apartment that I just bought and furnished and paid cash. And again, you would think all of this would make you feel like you finally arrived. And I felt like a broken little boy. And that was really when I realized, like, wow, you know, the external things we think will make us feel a certain way, they just amplify those feelings of, and I'm going to use the terminology, brokenness, I do not believe anyone is broken. But I felt that way, heavily felt that way. And so I started to go on an inner journey of like, validating who am I that particular evening and why I want to share this is. I sat down with a yellow legal pad and I wrote out a list of every single thing that I thought was worthy about me. And I had things like, if you own three businesses and you have 60 employees, like, there has to be value in you if. If you've done this, there has to be value if you this. And I just rebuilt and reestablished the relationship values with me not looking for external, just within me. And it didn't change overnight, but compounded over time, I started to create value in myself. When I met my wife on our very first date night, she said to me, who do you want to be? And I was like, I want to be a speake. I want to do this, I want to do that, but I need to create wealth so that people will listen to me. And then she challenged me, and she's like, why don't you just. Why don't you just do it now? And so it really was about reestablishing and rebuilding that value. I simplified the process, but it was truly about creating a relationship with myself because I gave all my power, all my worth to. I need money. I need, you know, a degree. I need to have a business. I need to have employees. I need to have people standing up and clapping. And here's all the places I'm going to get validation. Validation. I have been so fortunate and blessed to meet my twin flame, my split soul, if you want to call it. I have my person in life. And I think that part of the reason in meeting her was to make me realize she can't validate me. She can't be the one to fool me, to love me. I need to do that. And so again, it was an internal job of falling truly and madly and deeply in love with myself. And the compliment you gave me at the beginning of today, speaking into my auric field, or how people perceive me, or how that I just love unconditionally can only come because I love me so much, that I have so much love to give. And I genuinely, truly, deeply and profoundly love everyone. And I just want to see everyone achieve that level of love. And my goal in every moment is to remind people that we can love ourselves that much, with all our flaws, with all our perceived failures. And those 20 years really were all about that. And so you asked, what was the 20 years and what's to come? And what's to come is I just, without attachment to anything, want to love people. And I want to remind People that we all love, we come from love. We speak into breathing in the light of the Creator. And I believe that if we were to translate that light into an emotion, it would just be love. And could we just be love right here, right now, in every way? Especially when we don't like someone, could we still love someone? And the more we love, the more we are walking and breathing and acting in our truth. And so it comes full circle to what you started, that when it comes from the heart, it enters the heart. And our work in every moment of every day is just to love. But you have to start with yourself.
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Kathy Heller
I mean, there's so many beautiful things too. Go back and circle and re listen.
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To and highlight about what you just said.
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I just love the part just about you sharing your wife and how she encouraged you. And even that moment of knowing this is your ultimate love, twin flame. And still that even more so helped you realize even when you meet that most special soulmate, you still have to do it for yourself. And everything you shared about having all that wealth and then feeling this feeling of quote unquote broken. I think Jim Carrey has that great line where he says, I wish everyone could be rich and everyone could be famous to find out that there's nothing about that that's going to help you feel anything more on the inside. And, you know, it's interesting, when I was graduating from college, I wrote a paper comparing Moses and Siddhartha. So Moses, obviously, we know who that is. And Siddhartha was the Buddha. Some people don't know that, that they both grew up in a palace, they both grew up as a prince. They both grew up so wealthy materially and left it to go into the wilderness and wound up leading people to a higher consciousness. And so I think that's really interesting. And I was like, you know, fascinated by that as a world religion major, looking at these two human beings who had all of this wealth and knew that there was real wealth to be gained, not in a palace. And so I love the way you share this. And it's just phenomenal what you just said. We've done over a thousand episodes. I don't think I've heard anyone talk about loving themselves. I've heard people, you know, say things that are adjacent to that. But the reason I think that that's so fundamental is because we're all one, and we're one with the Creator. So to really know what the I am is, it's like we're all branches from the same tree. So to really love Yourself is to really love God, because God has a piece of the divine in us and that's why we can love each other. And to not love each other is like one arm not loving the other. Like we are completely intrinsically one and we're all in the same orchestra. So I think you really grasp it on a deep, deep level. Because most people, they hear that and they think that that's not allowed. You're not allowed to love yourself. It's selfish. And so they talk about things that are adjacent to that. But happiness is an inside job, right? And you're saying something that is very disruptive in a way, from what most people say. And so how did you achieve that? What would you share with other people that would help them to achieve that?
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Rudy Riekstiens
I think I'm going to answer your question that in a way I think that'll serve the audience the best. I'm always in every moment wanting to be a teacher. And I think we all are. We're always teaching how to do or how not to do. And I'm going to phrase this through the lens of somebody inside of my community. A young woman raised a question and she asked, how does she solve this particular problem? And the problem's not important and it was money related. And so she asked, how do I fix this? How do I do this? Here's my problem. All the emotion and my response to her in front of everybody inside of the community, I said, your work in this is to love yourself. And she got angry because she wasn't getting the answer she wanted. She wanted a tactical tool. And she then said, I have a follow up question. And obviously I'm paraphrasing, but I had given her a rebuttal. But the core of it was, you need to begin to love you in this moment. You're not loving you. And could you love you unconditionally right now? And so she said, I have a follow up. She's like, I need more money, I need this. I was making millions. I lost everything. I'm rebuilding and now I'm trying to do this, but I have to do that because I need more money. And so she was getting into the need of money. And I said to her, the most challenging part of being somebody who coaches or supports people is giving them the information they need, not the information they want. And right now you're frustrated. And my experience is that you are very frustrated with me because you don't like me in this moment. Because you want. Because she was angry, you could tell. So because you want me to give you this. But the answer that's going to serve you right now is that I need you to, at the end of this call, to begin to fall in love with you. And I want you to go to the mirror in your bathroom today and every day that follows this for as long as you possibly can. And I want you to stare at yourself completely naked in the mirror, alone and private, and set a timer for two minutes. And you won't make two minutes the first time because you're going to look at your body, you're going to look at yourself, and you're going to judge how you look. You're going to judge the shape of your body. You're going to judge different things, the gray hairs, the whatever. And then every day, I want you to build up to when you can get to two minutes. And the beauty in this exercise is that when you can stand and stare at yourself with nothing, nothing between you and you, you will begin to first see the things that you don't like. You'll see the flaws. You'll see your height, your shape, et cetera. And eventually you'll move past the cellulite. You're going to move past your waistband, and then you're going to start to be like, gosh, I really love my smile, or I love my eyes, or I love this or I love that. And then you'll move through that and you'll get to, I really love how much I care. And then you'll move through the how much I care. And eventually you'll get to the root cause of who it is that you are. When you see yourself, you are now able to give permission for other people to see you. I genuinely see who I am. And so the world is a mirror. You are a mirror to the world. You're reflecting back to them what they most need, but the world is reflecting back to you. My favorite, favorite, favorite bumper sticker that I've ever seen. I was driving in Miami on a highway, and I actually spat my coffee all over my steering wheel, over the windscreen, literally sitting there in traffic because I was having a bad day and something hadn't gone the way that I wanted it to. And we were sitting in bumper. The bumper traffic was going to take me an hour and a half, two hours to get home. And really, in a moment of frustration, I read the bumper sticker of the car adjacent to me wasn't directly in front of me. And the bumper sticker said, hey, you, come. You're the only one here. And I laughed. So loud in that moment, because here I was caught up in this world of they're doing this and this isn't working. And there was the beautiful reminder that it really is. We are the oneness in everything. And if you could fall in love with you, not only coming back to my opening point, are you teaching the world how to love, how to be love, but you're also now demonstrating the way in which you're going to love. And you know, if you want to love somebody, you have to love you first. Because if you're not, it's not going to land because it's coming from somewhere else. Not the heart, it's coming from an intention, from a want, from a need. But when you genuinely just love, there's nothing that's missing. And so that is why it lands from heart to heart. I'm going to advise everybody that's listening to this. Regardless of where you are in life, there's always more. There's always more. You can have more love, more capacity, more abundance, more joy, more fulfillment, more freedom, but the only way you're going to get that is if you were to turn around and just fall madly and deeply in love with you. My feedback to her was so much more than stand in a mirror for two minutes every day and fall in love. You know, it was date yourself. She's married, she has kids. I'm like, like, go out on a date. When was the last time you dated you? And I made her go and begin to date herself. I want to bring full circle to this because on that call she was so angry that she actually left me a message on my Facebook message board. And she was so angry, a six minute message about, you know, I was looking for tactics. This is what I wanted. And my response to her was, you know, you need to begin to fall in love, and I know it's not the answer that you want. And I lovingly poured into her, but I did not change my story. I went to my wife and I said, gosh, you know, this lady's so angry. Like, I feel like I need to just give her what she wants because I don't want her to be angry at me anymore. And my wife is wonderful in the way that she doesn't tell me what to do, she just lets me sit in it. And she was like, well, you know what to do. And I just stood my ground and I did not give her what she wanted in that moment. I just reaffirmed the message. Three months later, she was making, I'm trying to go back in memory now, but I think, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars is where she was at. Within three, life completely changed. I just saw them at event this week, which is about a year later, and she's like, when they were making millions, you know, their business, they had lost it. She's like, in January alone of 20, 26, she's made more money in that month than she had ever made in any month in the height of her business. And so she turned around, she said to me at this event, grabbing me and she said, telling me to love me was the greatest gift you could have given me, especially at a time when I didn't want to hear it. And so that's my answer to everybody. If you could walk away with just that today, it's truly the solution to everything.
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Kathy Heller
It's so powerful. And you explained it so well. Like you took us step by step through that journey. And just the other day I was talking to a brilliant professor. She used to work at Harvard and mit and now she's, she thinks it's all, you know, nothing. Because she really is, she's a hypnotist now. And she's like, you know, really works with people's subconscious mind. And she made a comment to me and she said, people always come to you and they want to fix their business and they don't realize it's all the business owner. It's the business owner. It's not the business, it's the person. It's what is your vibration, where is the block, Right? Because the creator just wants to give up us, all of it, all the time. How big is the vessel? And I personally just got so much from what you just said. I was like kind of taking it in as if you were talking to me. And I was like, okay, where can I even go deeper with that? And I just got so much out of that personally. So thank you. And it really is, that bumper sticker is everything because it's all a hologram. Which is why when I see people just so wound up about all of these things in their external world, my mother in law, the government, this, that, I'm like, wow, like you're saying so much more about yourself than you realize and how much you're just at war with yourself, right? And they don't see it until they finally see it. It's so beautiful how you broke that down for her and for people who want to connect the dots. Because I had somebody in my program yesterday who's a lovely, lovely person. And she said, I'm doing all the things, I listen to your meditation every day, and I still don't have this money. And I, I think I do have this. And I kind of went off on a little, like, ramp that she said was helpful. But can you connect the dots of how that that wound up for your client? It wound up making a big difference and she wound up making all of this money. But for people who need to hear it connected, how does the money connect to coming into deep love and peace with yourself? Like you might say, well, Thich Nhat Hanh, you know, people who are ascetic, monks might have that, but they're not necessarily aspiring to have the same goals. And therefore, maybe they don't. Maybe they have one roll, one bowl of rice a day. Right. And there's obviously a million ways to answer these questions, but for her in particular, why did you know that the money would follow for her this deep sense of actualizing self love?
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Rudy Riekstiens
So the answer to the question for the monk and. Or for the individual who's aspiring to create get revenue. Right. Is intention needs to be followed with action. And it's how you follow up with action as to what results are you going to drive. And so somebody who wants to achieve enlightenment, somebody who wants to experience love, the full breadth of the light of the Creator, they might only want the bowl of rice and feel truly and utterly fulfilled. And that is it. It is perfect as it is.
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Kathy Heller
I know those people. Yeah, yeah.
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Rudy Riekstiens
Now, somebody who wants to create wealth and they want to move from a difficult situation to a beautiful situation. You can sit on a couch all day, every day and connect to a sense of hope or joy, fulfillment, gratitude. But if you're not following up with anything, then you're not going to create any semblance of real change. And the difference between how you set up, Let me back this up, but I love so much about you and your teaching. Now, I walk into corporate companies all day long. I work with individuals and I talk about energy. And you talk about energy. Your podcast, I mean, good Lord. It's just all a reminder that all of this really is about an energetic footprint. And the intention with which you do anything is going to deliver the result of what it is that you're wanting to create. The step that bridges these two is awareness. To which hat are you wearing? What is the energy saying about you? When you fall in love with you and you genuinely love you, you're going to do things that you would do if you loved yourself. It's like taking care of yourself. It's eating the right foods, it's thinking the right thoughts, it's spending time with the right people, it's pouring into your body, it's going for a walk after a meal. It's whatever it is that you can do to love the vessel. Vessel. And that when you have value for the vessel, then all of a sudden it changes the relationships you have with other people. It changes how you show up. It changes how you allow people to take advantage of you. Meaning if somebody would speak to you otherwise in a way that was less desirable and in the past you didn't love you, you would take it because that's what you were worth. And then when you love yourself, you pause and you say, hey, you know, I know in the past that I would accept that pattern or behavior, but, you know, that's kind of not okay. Like, I would never intentionally want to speak to you that way. And I'm just going to ask you not to talk that way because it actually hurts my feelings. And I know that that's not your intention when you say that you're not dismissive to somebody. You're not cutting them down. You. You're just standing up for your worth. And when you stand up for your worth, in theory, your vessel expands and you become capable of receiving more love, more light. And so those are the micro adjustments that happen through that level of awareness. My wife has written a book called the Universe is Hiring. And my favorite chapter is Inspiration.
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Kathy Heller
Great title, by the way. Oh my God, the Universe is Hiring.
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Rudy Riekstiens
She actually got that on a plane. She sat down on a plane and it's a 35 minute flight from Wilmington, North Carolina to Charlotte. And then she said to me, okay, I'm gonna do a meditation. I'll call you when I get to Charlotte. This is like five in the morning. And when she gets to Charlotte, she calls me, she's like, hey, I just. And I was like, I need you to slow down. She's like, I got a download for a whole book. It's called the Universe is Hiring, Chapter ones, those chapter twos, those chapter threes, this. And so it's just, oh my gosh, so good.
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Kathy Heller
Okay, now you were saying. Then repeat the name of that chapter.
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Rudy Riekstiens
You were saying inspiration, meaning when you receive divine inspiration, it needs to be met with an equal and proportionate part of action. And so inspiration taking inspired action. And so when you are in a place of reacting and responding from, I'm broken, I'm not good enough. No one's giving me what I need, then you're reacting, you're not not taking inspired action. You're responding to outside external stimuli. When you fully and madly and deeply in love with you, you know, you whole, you know, you the co creative, your experience, you know that everything is unfolding for you. And then you receive inspiration that says you should really call this person. And you're like, gosh, I haven't thought of them in ages. And you don't procrastinate. You call them, you don't call them because you need them. You call them because you thought of them. And then in that moment that leads to something and then that leads to something else. And you know, you move your way forward and through people overcomplicate life. We literally are getting guidance and assistance in every moment, every day, in every way. I want to bring this full circle all the way back to me sitting in that room. At five years old, we all had that. At five years old, we all knew what was right or wrong. We either chose to listen or we chose not to listen. And then eventually we numb it. And so we get so used to doing it that we kind of just skip over it. And that's why we can be on social media and see pain and suffering and just not have an emotional reaction to it.
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Kathy Heller
It.
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Rudy Riekstiens
And it's because we've numbed ourselves through the process. But if we learn to center ourselves, which is at the core of my teaching every day, I teach people to connect to your centered self, to the part of you that is connected to the divinity that is you, that knows everything that ever was, everything that is, everything that will ever be. And when you connect to that, you're now literally like a tree, root or tree branch connected to the tapestry of everything. And that's when you receive the inspired action. And in that moment, it's like you say, oh, you need to do this. Oh you mustn't do that. And when you learn to listen to the intuitiveness of what is happening around you, you're always going to be met with love and joy and fulfillment and freedom. Because you're now walking, as I love to phrase through your terminology, through the light of the Creator. Because you're now walking in the light. It's when we react and respond and we forget who we are and we're literally living an automatic default life, which is the program. Well, that's when you meet resistance. That's when life is hard. I don't believe that there is a heaven and a hell. I believe we create heaven or hell and you can live heaven on earth every single day. But the only way to do that is to make sure that you start your day the right way. There's a process that I teach that is a 66 day reset of your mind. And I call it the expansion formula because it literally gives you a step by step formula to create quantum shifts through your life. And it's the process of every single morning connecting to your most centered self, breathing into who you are, the knowingness of who you are, and then through a cycle of changing, like you were to get into an elevator. And every single floor looks the same because when you open your eyes, the room's going to look the same as it was. But through the process of going through this expansion formula is that when you open your eyes, you're on a new floor. It's the floor is either going to be the floor of unfulfillment, the flow of unworthiness, the flow of resentment, or it's the floor of joy or love or freedom or authenticity. And as you shift through these elevated floors, the room looks the same as the doors open. But every path that you're on from that moment forward is now your highest and your greatest path to potential. And so it's about reminding people that we are the most creative beings on the planet and that our work here is to come, to create. And so I love your platform because it's spiritual. You were created, needed by a creative force to create. Literally. We are creative machines. But when we wake up stressed, nervous, anxious, worried, the left and the right brain shut down. They compartmentalize and we lose, literally, scientifically speaking, the ability to create. You cannot create in a state of heightened stress. 75% of people walk around all day, every single day in heightened states of stress. I read a research study yesterday. 43% of people, people globally reported being more stressed in 2025 than they were in 2024, with already the numbers being so alarming. So if you live in heightened stress and you cannot create, you literally are, and my terminology here is going to be clunky because you can never sever yourself from your creator, but you are going to significantly dwarf your capacity to be a creative force. And so if you cannot create your life in the positive, it's because you forgot to the divinity. And so if you could, in 66 days, wake up every single day, shift your altered state, which again is why I love your teaching and use neuroscience, to within less than 20 minutes, alter your vibrational frequency, which updates the mental body, the physical body, and then literally the 15ft around you, you're now becoming a magnet to what it is that you aspire. I have people that come into my programs, I have companies that I work with, or I take their leadership teams through liter a four month container. And I'll say to them at the beginning, I want everybody to declare a goal. And people say, I want to be an author. I want to speak on a stage in a language that I don't know how to speak yet, like, audacious goals. And then I say to them, to graduate my program, you have to achieve your goal. And everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not. No, no. And now they start to panic. I have 100%, 100% graduation rate inside of four months of people achieving profound things. Because when you wake up different, when you connect to your centered self, when you remember who you are, your inspired actions every single day as you move forward are going to be in the light of the Creator. You are walking in the light. And when you do that in four months and you write a book that you've wanted to do for years, you've never been able to do, or you learn a new language, or you find your soulmate, and you can do that in four months, it asks the best question of all. What else am I capable of creating?
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Kathy Heller
I feel like I could listen to you all day, every single day, and just be totally at peace and completely enthralled. I feel like everything you teach is the better version of what I'm trying to say. I'm like, yes. But oh, my God, he just said that even better and added this. And it's so good. And I'm so, like, glued. All of it is like, chefs can't. Is so good. Oh, so good. God, there's so many things that I could comment on that you just said that were just so masterfully. Like, you just. It's like watching an Olympian teach this. It's so good.
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Rudy Riekstiens
I honestly, you are so hilarious.
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Kathy Heller
No, I know.
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Rudy Riekstiens
You're doing pretty awesome. Let me just say that I love your. Your methodologies.
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Kathy Heller
You're just. It's so good. It's like my grandmother's chicken soup. It's like the best. It's like, there's no. There's nothing to add. There's no extra sal. Need it. It's so good. Every way you just described that. Now, I'm going to say this to push back, because I got this question also yesterday, and I get this question every day. So I love when someone asks me this and they think that they're asking me something that's going to stump me because they all ask this question which is I get everything you're saying going to different floors, being able to elevate so that you're, you're moving into some higher levels of, of your own creativity and you can be in flow state. But, but, but, but, but, but what about the circumstances in my life? It doesn't change the fact that, you know, my mother in law is sick and such and such happened and I lost my brother and then like they go into like, but what about my circumstances? And it's like you're asking me to not see the reality of my circumstances. And my circumstances are hard and tough and they litigate against themselves for being able to move the way you just said said. And they, they really are asking me like, what do you say about that? And it feels as if I'm being callous, right? Or it feels as if I'm not getting it or appreciating the real intensity and challenges that people have. So I know what my answer to that is, but I'm curious what your answer to that is.
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Rudy Riekstiens
I am dying to know what your answer is. So we're going to have to turn this back onto you at the end of this. I would say what we've both said throughout the entirety of this episode and literally almost everything that you speak into. I believe we essentially have two different hats that we can wear at any given time. We can wear a hat where we are at the mercy of an external force that is just smashing us around in the middle of a hurricane storm and we're just bobbing anywhere. And what is really sad in this assessment, I say that, but I believe everything is always perfect, meaning it's the way it is meant to be. If it's happened and it's happen, it's created that way because it's part of the unfoldment. We mentioned earlier that everything is a qualification, a pre qualification for who you get to become. And so I want to go back a moment and just say, every single person listening to this right now, I want you to ask yourself what is the one thing that you want to have be do or achieve? Right? I'm using the terminology from that guy who stood on that stage, you know, 30 years ago. And I want you to think about what that is, is. And then I want to ask you, have you been able to achieve it? And if the answer is no, which it is for most people, 100% of rooms I walk into, when I walk out on stage, I ask the question, do you Have a dream, goal, or desire, and the hands go up. I then say, okay, if you've had that goal for more than a year, keep your hands up. And the hands 100% are up. And I say, okay, if it's been more than two years, and then one or two hands go down. And then when I get to five years, 75% of the hands in the room, sometimes it's a thousand people, sometimes it's 100 people in the room, room. 75%. At least 80% of the hands are in the air for having a dream, goal, or desire that they haven't yet realized for their life, and they still have the dream or the desire. I then say to them, well, where did that desire come from? That desire didn't come from you. It was planted in you. There was the seed of God, of what your journey is, of who you've come here to be. And I say, where you are right now is preparing you for where it is that you're going. 98% of people, people, this is where I said what is sad for where most people are is 98% of people are living a reactionary life, which means they wake up and they repeat the same thoughts, same feelings, same behaviors that they did today based on where they did yesterday. And if we are reacting and responding emotionally, chemically, Let me explain that. Every time someone has a thought, a thought fires an electronic neurological impulse in the brain from the frontal lobe to the limbic brain. Limbic brain produces an instruction that goes into the body, that tells the body how to react or respond to the intellectual thought. Oh, I am a victim. I'm not good enough. I'm not worthy. That impulse happens at lightning speed. That transaction that happens from impulse to chemical is called emotion. We think a thought, we feel an emotion. We think a thought, we feel an emotion. The Average person thinks 70,000 thoughts a day. 95% of those thoughts are recurring, repetitive thoughts that we thought yesterday. When we wake up every single day, day, we actually wake up the same way we woke up the day before. We think the same, feel the same, act the same. So essentially, we are the same, but we are the remembrance of the past. So when something's happening to you and you are reacting to the past, then you're thinking with the past brain. The moment you can calm and center yourself, Meaning you're now switching the hat, and you're like, hang on a minute. I'm not a victim. Now, how I bridge this is, I say to people, especially somebody who's asking the question that you asked. I would say to them, can we. I'm not asking you to adopt my belief system. Can we play a game? Can we just pretend for a second that before you were born into this body, into this relationship, into this business, into this situation, can we pretend that you sat down at a table and you met with all these characters and you said you would be the perfect husband? Oh, my gosh. You know, when you do this, it's going to really help me see myself. Hey, could you come into my life and marry me and love me so much that it shows me that I need to love me the same? And then, hey, could you do me a favor? Could you steal a million dollars from me? Because, man, it's going to make me so angry. Could you bankrupt my business? And these were all the experiences that came into my life, and every one of them helped me remember, which is what we started talking about today. And so I say, could you just pretend that you chose this? And if you could pretend you chose this, I want you to take three steps back, back, fold your arms, put your hand under your chin, and ask yourself, what would be the value? Why would your soul choose this lesson? Now, I'm not saying this is true. I want you to pretend it's true. And then they put the hand on the chin, they look at it, and I say, what would the lesson be? And now they're able to detach from the emotion of what it was that they were feeling. The moment they detach from that, they now have the awareness. Remember I said the bridge is awareness. When you have awareness now, you're asking from a different brain, not the version that reacted and responded all day yesterday and the day before, and the 95% preconditioned version of who you are. You're now thinking as your soul. And when you look at it and you say, fascinating, you know what?
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Kathy Heller
That.
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Rudy Riekstiens
That happened to really show me that I already knew. So I had somebody who lost money through a partnership. And when I asked them that question, because they were so upset at the moment when I got them to separate from the emotion, I said, what's the lesson? They said, said, five years ago, I knew. I knew, do not go into business with this person. But I did it anyway because I was greedy. And I'm like, well, when's a good time to learn this? When you lose a million dollars or when you lose 100 million? And they. They were like, when you lose a million, not 100. And so they could shift in that moment from, I already knew the answer. So you're no longer a victim. You're now perfectly being prepared. And now you can step into the knowing of who you are. And so to this person, listen, you have two hats. You can either be the repetitive victim of the past, which is fine. You can stay there until you're ready to change, or you can swap the hats. And you don't have to believe anything that Kathy's teaching anything. All you have to do is ask, what if it is? And could I just put that hat on for a moment? And if I could, is there a lesson in what she teaches? Is there a lesson in asking, what would be the value if I chose this? So that's the game. Let's pretend I chose this. If I chose this, what would be the lesson? Not, I did choose this. If I chose this, what would be the lesson? And then write that lesson out. And could you learn that lesson today? You didn't ask this question. But I need to tell the audience this, because in understanding human behavior, we need to know what the cost is of inaction. So whatever the struggle is, you're in today. If you don't learn the lesson today, if you go to bed tonight, right, numbing yourself with alcohol or sex or Netflix, and you don't want to feel it, God's going to bring it back to you tomorrow and it's going to amplify and it's going to get more intense until you eventually cannot turn away from it. So you can learn the lesson, because whether you are aware of it or not, whether you agree with it or not, whether you are ready for it or not, it's the truth. You are going to be met with it, not because you reveal victim, but because you chose the curriculum. And when you learn the lesson, you're actually shortening the time of pain. I said it a moment ago. I don't believe there's hell, but I do believe that there's pain. And we experience pain. And pain is not what someone does to us. It's the time between when something happens and when we choose to step into our knowing of who we are. And so it's in shifting the hat and saying, man, why would I choose that? Even though it was painful, I don't like it. Why would I choose it? What would be the lesson? Lesson, you're shifting everything. And now you're no longer reacting and responding. You're now taking steps as the empowered version of you, as I refer to your centered self, the wise one. And every decision you make from that point forward is going to be better. And or different than what you would have made otherwise as a reactionary being.
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Kathy Heller
Incredible. So beautiful. Listening to you talk is like I was thinking, how would I describe it? And it's like we went to Switzerland this summer and the color of the water, it's like a glacier color. It's like hard to explain, but it's the most beautiful place, the most beautiful scenery. That's what it's like listening to you talk. It's like the equivalent of the beauty in the Swiss Alps is like listening to you talk about life and purpose. And it's incredible. To answer your question really succinctly, if you turned it, you said, I want to hear how you would answer that. Essentially, if God wants to make you David, he sends Goliath. So all of it to me is basically it comes down to people not grasping the greatness within themsel because we see the 1% of reality, not the 99% of reality. And everything that shows up at your door is there on behalf of the Creator as your boxing partner, rooting for you to actually overcome it. And so once you grasp that there is a greatness in you that is even far greater than you really even can perceive, you start to see how everything that gets sent was sent on behalf of the Creator to awaken an even greater level of what activates you into being the hero of your own story.
- [55:16]
Rudy Riekstiens
When you were speaking, I was trying to articulate in my mind the same same experience I have of your teachings. And I'm going through like some of the lessons that I. I've seen of you over the years. And what's interesting is what I saw was the burning bush. And I want you to imagine in a moment now, if you were standing in front of the burning bush and you're the first person to come upon the burning bush, is the voice going to be whimsical? Is it going to say, oh my gosh, you know that. Or is it going to be be the truth, the authoritative cut through the BS truth. And I think what I love so much about your work is that you are a permission slip for people to step into their knowing because it's truth and you know your words and you equally as well spoken. But I want your audience to go back two minutes and listen to your rebuttal. And I want them to just hear the truth. There is a resonance to the truth of what you're speaking. And it's so clear, it's so crystal clear. And it's like if I have five or six stories that pop up on social media. And yours is all the way at the end. I'll skip everyone to get to yours because it. Regardless of whether you know you're jumping into the car with your daughter, like, it's always truth. There's resonance truth in that. And I love to remind people of the divinity of who they are. And that's an action I intentionally create every day. And you do it effortlessly without the intention behind it. I'm not saying you don't intention it, but what I mean is by just being you. And so you're just truly a gift to all of us. And I want to say thank you for that and for your generous words.
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Kathy Heller
Thank you. Thank you. I receive all of that. Thank you. You're such an incredible. You're like a lightning rod for so much, and it's so incredible. I was thinking, how lucky am I to be in the, like one of the audience here and just absorbing and just like a sponge, like, what an incredible gift. And it really is divine timing because we literally just rebranded my podcast because we hit a thousand episodes. And I said, you guys, we need to kind of like the next thousand episodes. Like, let's like elevate the journey. And so we, we went through an entire journey of what. What is it going to be called? And I said, it's everything is energy. Because everything is energy energy. And you are the first person that I am interviewing and I thought, even asking my team, I'm like, who's going to be the perfect person? So that when I'm explaining and expressing to the audience, like, what does it mean when I say everything is energy that somebody would be able to really like, embody that. And so, of course, like, there it is. And as you were saying before we officially hit record forward, we are about to move into very. In the next couple weeks, we're moving into a year, which will be phenomenal and really propelled by such clear, energetic life force. And so it's. It's perfection that it all worked out this way. And I just feel so incredibly honored. And everything you teach is so masterfully said and shared and the layers of it that please, please tell us all the ways that my audience can listen, work with you, coach with you. I'm sitting here like, how do I, like, have you on my, like, speed dial as my coach? You're so good. Can you tell us all the ways that people can get in to your world?
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Rudy Riekstiens
I would just give you my website where if anybody is curious about anything that I have to do, I'm cautiously not wanting to have people come from, from your community into mine.
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Kathy Heller
No. Yes. Sand. All of it. Let's get it.
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Rudy Riekstiens
You are so together so well.
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Kathy Heller
It's like mashed potatoes and filet mignon. It works well. Let's go.
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Rudy Riekstiens
What I would say is this, if somebody is listening to what I have shared today and this was a co creative experience between two people who are in their worth. But if you are wanting to experience that in two different energies, I would challenge you to join the expansion formula because it's not something that is is an egregious expense. It's not something that is a massive commitment in time, but it is a micro cosmic example of how you can remember your divinity by stepping into the knowing of who you are, retaking back the power of your brain, understanding that every single thing in the known universe is energy and that you have the power, the potential to manipulate that energy, that you were created to be able to do that and that there's simple tools and tactics that you can apply. And then again, if you could achieve tremendous growth inside of four months, what would you do with the rest of your life? And if you could turn around and teach everything that you've learned, then it would be able to create the greatest change for you. And so my website, I will beg you to put into the show notes because I've got one of those last names that is going to be the most mispronounced ever, but it is Rudy Rudi, I R I E K S T I N S And I would look for the expansion formula. And if you have any questions, I answer 100% of every message that I get either through my email and or through Instagram or Facebook. I love reminding people because at the end of the day, you know, that's what it's all about. We think it's an external job and when you are creating impact for somebody else, you're really creating impact for you. And so my challenge at the end of day, I love to challenge people to do things. My challenge at the end of today is to do two things. And I want you to do these two things as the audience right now. The first is I want you to go ahead and hit five stars on Kathy's podcast because to put a podcast together is a tremendous amount of work, time, effort, energy, money. And the closest, easiest, simplest barrier for entry for you for listening to the work that she does is to just smash five stars and to say, kathy, I think you're freaking awesome and thank you for doing what you do. And it helps her Spread her message with more people. And so if you are not right now smashing five stars for her, it really is more of a reflection of where you are than of the work that she does. And so please do that for her because it's such a gift. And the second is I want you to go out and into the world and change one person's life today. And to change one person's life could be as simple as walking into a gas station, putting down a dollar or two and buying a lottery ticket and then giving it to the attendant and saying, I hope you win. It could be going to a grocery store and buying a candy bar and at the end of checking out, take it out of the the bag, hand it to the teller and say, hey, mention them by name because they wear name tags. Thank you. I really appreciate you and leaving. It's in such small moments of time of truly seeing someone the way that Kathy saw me in the beginning of the episode. I want you to see someone to today and in seeing someone, not only are you going to change their life, but you're inadvertently going to change yours. Kathy, I love you so much. I think you're just amazing. Thank you for being you and thank you for having me on your incredible show.
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Kathy Heller
Can't even. I, you know, I'm usually not speechless, but it's so beautiful. It's like, you know, it's just looking at moonlight. It's just. It's hard to put that in words. And I'm so grateful to be sitting here and I just want to, to I feel called to just say, like, may you be blessed and protected and your family be blessed and may all the good you do be a, a light beam of blessing and protection around you and your family for the just the incredible pristine love and wisdom that you give so effortlessly. We're really blessed and it's such a gift to like walk the path and, and find you on the journey. So. So I'm completely cup runneth over. Had the best time. Best, you know, 11 out of 10. Thank you so much. And we'll put your name and the website in the show notes. And I'll just say that one of the deepest kabbalists in Jerusalem, he once said that, and this is why I thought of it, because your name is a little hard to spell. Like, if you were thinking of it, you wouldn't know that it's S T I n S and that that. And your Rudy doesn't have a why. But he said truth seekers, they're seeking the truth and they'll find it. And so it's almost like perfect that if you really want. Right, Rudy, those of you who are listening, it's like you're really a truth seeker because you're willing to take the time and it means you've merited that you're on that level where, like, I know that's a small thing, but there's something about it that's not lost on me because there's so many ways in which God and the wisdom of this universe is just hidden in plain sight. And it takes a certain level of real, we could say rot zone in Hebrew. Desire for that truth that makes you really go after it. And then the reward, you know, you get such a reward. So I will put it there for you guys in the show notes. But it's not lost on that. It's spelled a certain way for those of us who really merit to get to be witness to you.
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Rudy Riekstiens
Gosh, I love that no one's ever, ever said that. And I do think that that is so true because for the longest time I'd been like, why was I not just. John, John, you're like, give me something easy, right?
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Kathy Heller
Yeah. Yeah. This was amazing. I am so grateful. And that's a wrap on episode one of Everything is Energy. That was amazing. Perfection.
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Oh, my gosh, Rudy is amazing. And he was so kind. To share a link to his 66 day expansion formula, you can go to kathyhiller.com Rudy, which is Rudi, to sign up. We're also going to have that link in the show notes, but here are the takeaways. Number one. Every single one of us already innately knows. It's about the unfolding of the remembrance, remembering of who we really are. Number two, we are love. We come from love. Our work in every moment of every day is just to love. But you have to start with yourself. Number three, you can have more love, more capacity, more abundance, more joy, more fulfillment, more freedom. But the only way you're going to get it is if you turn around and just fall madly and deeply in love with you. Number four, we are getting guidance and assistance in every moment, every day, in every every way, but it's up to us to listen. Number five. Intention needs to be followed with action. When you connect to your centered self, you are now like a tree root connected to the tapestry of everything. That's when you receive the inspired action. Number six, where you are right now is preparing you for where you're going. Number seven, play a game and ask yourself, let's pretend I chose this. If I chose this, what would be the lesson? Either way, you're going to be met with the lesson, not because you're a victim, but because you chose the curriculum Number eight. Go out and into the world and see someone today. Not only can this change their life, but it will inadvertently change yours. Thank you so much for listening. I never take it for granted. We have so many good episodes coming up, so please make sure that you follow along on Apple podcasts or Spotify or wherever you listen. And if anything today spoke to you, please leave a review and a rating. Here's one that we got this week. It says Bravo. Kathy always makes me think about things in new ways, positive ways, whether in her podcast or her book Abundant Ever After. I'm waking up these days with some happiness and confronting some of life's questions I've avoided for years. Bravo, Kathy. That's so kind. Thank you so much. It's so fun to read these. So please leave us a review if you haven't already already. And you might just hear me read that review on a future episode. Final thing, you can get a dollar trial of my membership this Abundant Life. You can come and join me live on Zoom. I teach about Kabbalah. I teach about the energy, wisdom, how you can plug in, how you can literally become a better receiver. Because the miracles are always here. The real shift is the miracle inside of us that allows us to receive what's already hidden in place. So if you want to take these conversations deeper than the podcast and join me live on Zoom, you can try it out for a dollar. Go to kathyheller.com gift I love you. I'll talk to you again so soon.