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Leading change is one of the hardest things a pastor will ever do. Get it wrong and you don't just slow the church down — you fracture trust, divide people, and spend years rebuilding what you lost. In this episode, Ryan sits down with Rodney Shaw, author of Feed My Sheep: A Handbook for Pastors, to walk through practical steps every pastor needs to know before leading change in their church. If you've got a change you know you need to make — this conversation is for you.

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