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What if insight and truth alone aren’t enough to create real transformation? In this episode of the Christian Leader Made Simple Show, Dr. Gregg Makin unpacks the neuroscience of lasting change and why so many leaders find themselves frustrated when people stay stuck despite powerful sermons, wise counsel, or deep conversations. With over 40 years of experience training and equipping leaders, Gregg explains how the brain processes experience, why early memories still shape present reactions, and how true transformation happens “below the waterline.” He introduces practical tools like Corrective Relational Experiences and mismatching moments that rewire the brain through safe, grace-filled relationships. Whether you’re a pastor, church leader, or Christian professional, this conversation will give you fresh perspective on how to move beyond advice-giving and help people experience change that truly lasts.

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Why Christian Leaders Are Burning Out Trying to Fix People | Dr. Gregg Makin

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