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Send a textApologies!! Somehow the audio file for this episode got mixed up. This is the actual interview with Dr. Richard Kannwischer. It is a great conversation!!In this episode of the Church Talk podcast, hosts Jason Allison and Rob Paterson engage in a deep conversation with Dr. Richard Kannwischer about the importance of cultivating the fruit of the Spirit in our lives. They discuss the challenges of pastoral care, the significance of community, and the slow process of spiritual growth. Dr. Kannwischer shares personal stories and insights from his new book, 'Cultivate,' emphasizing the need for patience, kindness, and the presence of Christ in our lives. The conversation highlights the importance of training for spiritual growth and the role of relationships in fostering transformation.Get Richard's book "Cultivate"More about Dr. Richard KannwischerChapters00:00 Navigating Life's Rhythms and Challenges02:46 The Role of Pastoral Care and Emotional Burden05:44 Introducing Dr. Richard Kannwischer and His Book08:17 The Journey of Faith and Ministry11:04 Cultivating the Fruit of the Spirit14:01 The Importance of Joy in Daily Life16:45 Practical Steps to Cultivate Joy19:36 Building Community and Connection22:39 Exploring Peace and Future Topics24:48 The Relationship Between Peace and Self-Reliance27:05 The Non-Anxious Presence of Christ30:55 The Importance of Keeping Your Eyes on the Captain34:29 Patience as a Spiritual Practice39:00 The Role of Community in Spiritual Transformation43:00 Understanding Kindness vs. NicenessFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send a textIn this episode of the Church Talk podcast, hosts Rob and Jason reflect on the year 2025, discussing the challenges and opportunities it presented. They explore the transition from local to regional ministry, the relentless nature of church leadership, and the importance of consistency in setting goals for the new year. The conversation also touches on predictions for 2026, including the integration of AI in church leadership and the potential generational shift in leadership dynamics. The hosts emphasize the need for intentional effort in building healthy church communities and encourage pastors to lead with purpose and vision.Follow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send a textIn this episode of the Church Talk podcast, hosts Jason Allison and Rob Paterson engage in a lively discussion with Chris Scotti, VP and publisher at 316 Publishing. They explore the impact of consistency in podcasting, the transformative power of the Gospel of John, and the importance of Bible translations. Chris shares his personal journey to faith through reading the Gospel of John and discusses the features of the Legacy Standard Bible, emphasizing its evangelistic nature. The conversation highlights the significance of making God's word accessible and encourages listeners to share the Gospel in creative ways.Resources:316PublishingGet the LSB Gospel of JohnFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send us a textSummaryIn this episode of the Church Talk Project, hosts Jason Allison and Rob Paterson discuss Carey Nieuwhof's article about various trends affecting church leadership and community engagement. They explore the importance of forging community, the challenges faced by Gen Z in relation to spirituality, the state of evangelism, and the alarming rate of church closures compared to new church plants. The conversation also touches on the mental health crisis among church leaders, emphasizing the need for support and resources to help pastors thrive in their roles.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Church Talk Project01:35 Forging Community and Personal Growth03:12 Accountability in Health and Lifestyle Changes04:26 Trends in Church Leadership and Community Engagement07:19 Gen Z: Revival and Retreat15:22 The State of Evangelism in Churches23:04 The Importance of Authenticity in Faith25:17 The Challenge of Church Closures28:39 Funding and Resources for Church Planting30:30 The Tension Between Growth and Authenticity34:06 The Rise of Non-Derivative Churches42:33 Addressing the Mental Health Crisis in Church Leadership47:21 New ChapterKeywordsChurch Talk, community, personal growth, Gen Z, evangelism, church planting, mental health, leadership trends, church closures, non-derivative churchFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send us a textIn this episode of the Church Talk podcast, hosts Jason Allison, Rob Paterson, and Courtney engage with Danny Parmelee, the regional president of Converge Mid-America. The conversation centers around the importance of self-awareness in leadership, particularly for pastors and church leaders. Danny shares his personal journey of discovering the significance of self-awareness through coaching and feedback, emphasizing how it can lead to personal growth and improved leadership effectiveness. The discussion also touches on the challenges of vulnerability, the role of fear in leadership, and the introduction of a 360 self-awareness tool designed to help leaders gain insights into their strengths and weaknesses. The episode concludes with practical advice on implementing self-awareness practices within church leadership. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the importance of integrating health assessments into organizational culture, particularly within church settings. They explore the role of 360 assessments in leadership, emphasizing the need for a supportive environment that encourages honest feedback. The discussion highlights the significance of self-awareness, vulnerability, and the value of trusted relationships in personal and professional growth. The speakers also address common fears associated with self-assessment and offer encouragement to pastors and leaders to embrace the process as a means of faithful leadership.Access Code for a Free 360 Assessment at 360 Self Aware: TheChurchTalkChapters00:00 Introduction to Danny Parmelee02:39 The Importance of Self-Awareness in Leadership11:29 Overcoming Fear and Vulnerability17:30 The 360 Self-Awareness Tool24:34 Processing Feedback and Growth28:14 Implementing Self-Awareness in Church Leadership28:44 Integrating Health Assessments into Organizational Culture30:00 The Role of 360 Assessments in Leadership32:01 Navigating the 360 Assessment Process34:02 The Importance of Feedback and Self-Awareness36:00 Encouraging Vulnerability in Leadership37:56 The Value of Trusted Relationships in Growth40:00 Overcoming Fear of Self-Assessment42:00 Encouragement for Pastors and LeadersFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send us a textIn this episode of the Church Talk Podcast, host Jason Allison interviews Pastor Mike Hayes, the founding pastor of Covenant Church in Dallas, Texas. They discuss Mike's journey from a performance-based faith to a deeper understanding of happiness and joy in the Christian life, emphasizing the importance of the Beatitudes and the true nature of the gospel as good news. Mike shares insights on how our perceptions of God, particularly through the lens of fatherhood, can impact our relationship with Him and our understanding of joy. The conversation highlights the need for the church to present a more joyful and uplifting message to its congregation. In this conversation, Mike Hayes and Jason Allison delve into the themes of judgment, joy in ministry, the distinction between peacemaking and peacekeeping, and the importance of personal revelation in pastoral work. They explore the concept of the Bema seat of judgment, emphasizing that judgment is about rewards for good works rather than condemnation. The discussion highlights the necessity of joy in ministry and encourages pastors to embrace their identity as children of God. They also discuss the challenges of peacemaking, stressing that it requires skill and effort, and conclude with the significance of sharing personal experiences to connect with others.Get the Real Happy book!Find out more about Mike HayesEpisode Chapters00:00 Introduction to Pastor Mike Hayes03:18 Mike Hayes' Journey and Ministry Background06:08 The Shift from Performance to Happiness in Faith11:05 Understanding Happiness Through the Beatitudes14:32 Righteousness, Peace, and Joy in the Holy Ghost18:01 The Gospel as Good News: A Mind Shift22:31 The Image of God: Fatherhood and Joy24:44 Exploring the Bema Seat of Judgment27:09 The Importance of Joy in Ministry29:40 Understanding Peacemaking vs. Peacekeeping41:01 The Power of Personal Revelation in MinistryFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send us a textIn this episode of the Church Talk podcast, Jason, Rob, and Courtney discuss various impactful books that can aid church leaders and members in their spiritual journeys. They emphasize the importance of reading widely, exploring diverse perspectives, and understanding cultural contexts. The conversation covers recommendations for leadership, team building, and engaging with the Old Testament, while also addressing contemporary issues facing the church today. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the challenges faced by Gen Z, particularly the meaning crisis and the search for purpose. They discuss influential authors and their works that provide insights into navigating faith and understanding the supernatural. The conversation also touches on the ethics of beauty as a guiding principle in problem-solving and the transformative power of literature in shaping perspectives. The speakers share their favorite books and the impact these have had on their lives and ministries, concluding with an invitation for listeners to share their own recommendations.Books Mentioned: (Share yours with us!! - jason@churchtalkproject.com)JasonDe-Sizing the Church (Karl Vaters)Future Church (Will Mancini)Wisdom for Faithful Reading (John Walton)Lead (Paul David Tripp)The Wood Between the Worlds (Brian Zahnd)CourtneyLiturgical Mission/ Ever Ancient Ever New (by Winfield Bevins)Bearing God's Name (by Carmen Imes)Living in Wonder (by Rod Dreher)The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God (by Justin Brierly)The Air We Breathe (by Glen Scrivener) The Ethics of Beauty by (Timothy Patitsas)RobThe 6 Types of Working Genius (Pat Lencioni)The Seven Frequencies of Communication (Erwin McManus)Purple Cow & Free Prize Inside (and really anything) (Seth Godin)Blue Like Jazz (Donald Miller)Homiletic Moves & Structures (David Buttrick)Slaves, Women, & Homosexuals (William J. Webb)00:00 Introduction to Meaningful Reads05:55 The Importance of Diverse Reading11:46 Books for Leadership and Team Building18:08 Exploring the Old Testament23:51 Cultural Context and Spiritual Issues24:20 Understanding the Meaning Crisis for Gen Z26:05 Exploring the Supernatural Worldview28:20 Influential Authors and Their Impact30:09 Books That Changed Perspectives34:25 The Ethics of Beauty and Problem Solving38:21 Before and After: Transformative Books45:30 Closing Thoughts and Future RecommendationsFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send us a textIn this episode of the Church Talk Podcast, hosts Jason, Rob, and Courtney welcome back Brian Dodd for his fourth appearance. They discuss Brian's new book, 'The Games Leaders Play,' exploring the gap between leadership knowledge and its application in real-world scenarios. Brian emphasizes the importance of personal communion with God for effective leadership and shares insights on the common traits of successful leaders. The conversation also delves into the unique challenges faced by pastors and how they can blend shepherding with visionary leadership. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the challenges pastors face when leading volunteers versus leading other leaders. They explore the importance of understanding the mindset of leaders, providing ten actionable strategies for pastors to effectively lead leaders, and the significance of continuous learning in leadership roles. The discussion also touches on the dynamics of leadership challenges and the necessity of fostering a culture of contribution over control.TakeawaysBrian Dodd's new book (Games Leaders Play) addresses the gap between leadership knowledge and application.Effective leaders are those who have spent time with God.Vision is about multiplying what you see, feel, and hear in ministry.Transformation in ministry is more important than mere transactions.Most pastors excel at leading volunteers but struggle with leading other leaders.Imposter syndrome can hinder pastors when interacting with more experienced leaders.Pastors should prioritize being a spiritual guide to leaders.Asking great questions is more valuable than providing answers.Involving leaders in decision-making makes them feel valued and invested.A clear and compelling vision attracts great leaders.Follow-up communication strengthens relationships with leaders.Leaders should be encouraged to contribute rather than control.Keywordsleadership, church growth, personal communion, Brian Dodd, effective leadership, pastoral challenges, church vision, leadership principles, faithfulness, community impact, leadership, pastors, volunteers, leaders, church, mindset, strategies, challenges, continuous learning, communityFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send us a textIn this episode of the Church Talk podcast, Jason, Courtney, and Rob discuss the importance of leadership in the church, focusing on how to listen to God and the various spiritual practices that can enhance personal growth and community engagement. They share personal anecdotes about snow days, the challenges of hearing from God, and the need for a true prayer life. The conversation emphasizes the significance of bridging the gap between learning and doing in ministry, and how spiritual practices can be tailored to individual personalities. In this conversation, the speakers explore the challenges of engaging with God amidst the chaos of modern life, emphasizing the importance of simplicity and quietness. They discuss how busyness and success can hinder spiritual growth and listening to God. Practical practices such as the Kairos circle and the Jesus Prayer are introduced as ways to cultivate awareness of God's presence and to develop a deeper spiritual life. The conversation concludes with a call to embrace these practices to enhance one's relationship with God and to support others in their spiritual journeys.www.churchtalkproject.comKen Boa "Conformed to His Image"Dallas Willard "The Divine Conspiracy"Richard Foster "Celebration of Discipline"Chapters00:00 Welcome and New Beginnings03:02 Snow Days and Seasonal Joys06:01 Listening to God as Leaders12:11 The Challenge of Hearing from God17:53 Spiritual Practices and Personal Growth19:53 Engaging God Amidst Life's Chaos30:08 The Impact of Success on Spiritual Listening40:55 Practical Practices for Hearing God44:48 Cultivating Awareness of God's PresenceFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com

Send us a textIn this episode of the Church Talk podcast, hosts Jason and Rob introduce their guest, Jason Bowman, who shares his journey from church planting to creative entrepreneurship. The conversation explores the intersection of church and marketplace principles, emphasizing the importance of passion and enthusiasm in ministry. They discuss the challenges of growth and chaos in organizations and the need for new approaches to engage communities effectively. The episode concludes with insights on embracing change and adapting to new cultural contexts. In this conversation, Jason Bowman discusses various themes related to church planting, community engagement, and effective leadership. He emphasizes the importance of gratitude, empathetic honesty, and core principles for building strong teams. The discussion also highlights innovative approaches to discipleship through the Jesus XP initiative, aiming to connect individuals with the teachings of Jesus in a contemporary context.ArtSpeak CreativeJesusXPFollow us on Insta @churchtalkproject. www.churchtalkproject.com