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You're listening to the Buck Sexton show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Is Michelle Obama the most overrated person of our lifetime? To answer this question that the masses are clamoring for answers to, we are joined for the first time by Peachy Keenan. She is an author and a commentator and author of the book Domestic Extremist, which I Would highly recommend to all of you and is in the background for those of you watching us on Twitter. Peachy. I'll hand this question off to you. I'm sure you've seen some of Michelle's podcast entries so far, and. Wow.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, that's a. That's a great question, Buck. I would say she's probably second to her illustrious husband. It must run in there. Run in their family. But, yeah, her. Her podcast is really funny. I think there was. It's very obvious that. I think what happened there after the November election, all the, like, you know, pod, Save America bros were like, we need podcasts. We need a better. We need better messengers. Trump won because of Rogan and all these bro podcasts. What can we do to reclaim podcasting for the Democrats? And, like, who was the first person they called? Michelle Obama. Because America is dying to hear from her. And, yeah, her and her weird brother who looks like a. Looks like a drag queen out of his makeup, doesn't he? Like, they're just a very weird pair. I don't know. No one's watching this, right? Like, are you watching this? Is anyone watching this?
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Clay Travis
Well, I see some of the clips. I will tell you, as I was talking about this on radio, my wife, who is always up on the latest media stuff because she used to work at Fox News, she sent me that. Michelle Obama's podcast on, you know, YouTube, you can see. See the views it has. In three or four episodes, the audience has gone from, I think, a couple hundred thousand down till it's cut in half, which is not what you would expect for a former first lady with the entire media not only rooting for her, but telling you that she is simultaneously a saint, a genius, and the greatest person. You know, I don't want to fight with you. Peachy. But I'll say this. With Barack Obama, if you criticized him, you were racist. With. With Michelle Obama, if you criticize her, you were. You were actually Hitler. That's. That's. I think those were the rules, right?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. I think it's incredible hubris of these first ladies. I think Hillary Clinton is another example of this, who think that because their husbands won, because they had some political flair or whatever, that they also won some. Something like. They also were awarded best personality of the year or whatever it is. And they go on to have these media careers, and I'm not really sure what. I mean, they're just completely propped up by. I don't know. I mean, she did sell a lot of books. Okay. She did have these big Book tours and sell million millions of books, supposedly. Although I would go to Costco and there'd be a huge stack of Michelle Obama books, you know, discounted for like 499 each.
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Clay Travis
So. So I'll. This is so funny to me because I've thought about this many times because I've been in people's homes. I mean, one of the things that you can tell about somebody. Right? Well, rather all you really need to do to know a lot about a person is first of all, do they have any books in their home? And then second of all, when you look at the books they have are these books that are for reading or books that are for showing. And I think Michelle Obama books are books that people have. Even if it's not a coffee table book, they have it like on or near the coffee table or like prominent on the shelf because it's a, you know, hey, look at me. I think the. I would guess. And there's no way of ever knowing because people, people all lie about how much they read. They certainly lie about what books they've read, what books they read, what books they've read. Sorry. But the, the truth to me is that Michelle Obama books, of the people who bought them, I would guess less than 10% actually read the book in any meaning.
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Buck Sexton
Right? It's Right. But if you have the book and someone sees it in your house, they know you're not racist. That's right next to. Yeah, it's right next to white Fragility, you know, and maybe like an Ebram X Kendi children's book or whatever. And you know, whatever those little. He's making like anti anti racist baby board books. Remember? It's all this whole, I'm not a racist because I, I have the correct media, the correct media diet. So therefore I'm allowed to be white.
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Clay Travis
My, My favorite coffee shop when I lived in New York that was near me was a place called Ground Central. And it was exactly. I mean it was. You could look at the entire. This was in Manhattan. Entire staff clearly came in from like transitioning parts of Brooklyn, right? They were all white. They're all coming in from like, you know, their Bed Stuy, you know, share. And you know, they've stopped like pickling their own beats or whatever for a minute to come here. Now I will say the coffee, the coffee was amazing. But, but. And that's why I had to keep going. The reading shelf that they had. I used to take photos of this because I was, it was so immaculately curated to show Everybody what the people who worked in this store wanted people to believe they're about. It was all the. It was Ibram X, Kendi, Michelle Obama Ta, Nehisi Coates. It was like, like, not. They never. I never once, with the exception of Robin d'. Angelo. And I mean this. And I got my coffee there every day. Saw on their reading shelf, which was like prominently displayed, a book written by a white person. Not. Not allowed. Not. Not. Okay. So anyway, so you buy a Michelle Obama book and it's. It's like you get it all done. You don't even have to have the whole shelf. You just show everybody who you are.
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Buck Sexton
Actually, that. I think the Harvard English literature curriculum probably matches the Starbucks that. That. That your coffee shops.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I can't even imagine. When I went to Amherst 20. God, 20 something years ago now, Amherst, it was. Yeah, it was already insane. And I try to tell people stories and they're like, there's no way it was that crazy. I'm like, no, no, I promise you it was. It was just as crazy. You know, I was gonna say, Trump is Hitler, Bush is Hitler, and like, we're fascist. Flag burning after 9 11. That happened on my campus. Like, yeah, it was.
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Buck Sexton
That was real.
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Clay Travis
Oh yeah, that was a real thing. I was there. I mean, obviously not burning the flags. They had cops there. Classic lib thing. They had to make sure the cops were there because they knew that if it just did this, people would punch them. So. So they had the cops there to defend them. Burning the American flag after 911 because they want to stick it to the patriarchy. I'm like, except for these cops who are dudes with guns that you're begging to protect you. Let's come back. You mentioned Harvard. I actually want to dive into this with you and talk. I know you've got. Got a couple of kids go through the college process, so I'll find this to be a lot of fun, maybe cathartic even. Looking out for the lives of unborn children is what preborn does. Day in and day out, their highest priority is saving the lives of as many pregnant babies as possible. Last year, preborn made it possible for more than tens of thousands of unborn children to realize life. They do this by welcoming pregnant mothers into their clinics across the country, giving them love, support, and care, and a free ultrasound so they can meet the tiny life growing in their womb. Through this process, preborn has helped to save over two decades, 350,000 babies. One way that Preborn achieves. This is, of course, that ultrasound, but it's only possible with your help, your donations. Preborn gets no government funding. A $28 expense per ultrasound is all it takes as a donation to help save a life. And if you could do 10 of those, that would be $280 for 10 ultrasounds, which would possibly save 10 tiny babies lives. To donate securely, just dial pound 250 and say the key word baby. That's pound 250. Say baby. Or go to preborn.com buck. That's preborn.com buck sponsored by preborn. All right, peachy. So Trump is going after Harvard, which is I love and I'd say this people, too. It's not just Harvard. I'd love it if he did it to Amherst, too. And I went there. I don't care. I think this is fantastic. Why do you think it's fantastic? I'm guessing you at least feel that way about it.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I love it. I, you know, I went to the Ivy League. I didn't, didn't go to Harvard, but I think they should all, you know, burn them all down at this point. And not just Cornell, because if you.
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Clay Travis
Went to Cornell, I think I have to make fun. Okay, Because, Because I love, I love the Cornell people who are always like, well, I went to an Ivy League school. And it's just like, if you say that and not the name, it's usually Cornell.
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Buck Sexton
I'm not saying because I don't want to be docs, but I, yeah, I did.
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Clay Travis
I did.
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Buck Sexton
I did not go to Cornell or Harvard. You can use, you know, keep guessing, but I won't tell you. But anyway, they're all like this. Not just Harvard. The UCs here in California are like this. Also with the numbers. I just wrote an article about this@tom klingenstein.com called poisoned ivies, which is about how, you know, the great replacement or whatever has already been completed at many of these elite institutions where large numbers of the student body is no longer American and not even, like, you know, undocumented, whatever, American. Like people here, like, you know, the children of illegals, the dreamers, not even them. People who literally arrive in this country for the first day of school, can kind of barely speak English from, you know, the Chinese mainland and the Gulf states. And, you know, rich, rich people from around the world are coming into these schools and what is it, 30%, including grad school at Harvard and I think similarly at ucla. Okay. And like, in terms of ucla, like the state schools, these are schools that we pay for, like Californians pay for these schools. We fund these state schools, ucla, Berkeley, UC San Diego, these are schools built.
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Clay Travis
Your tax dollars from your property taxes, your income taxes in California, which are insane, is the reason that ucla, et cetera exists.
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Buck Sexton
Right? We pay for them to educate California kids. That's the goal of these schools. Just like the University of Texas is for largely kids in Texas. Right. These state schools should be educating majority of the kids in California. And then there's out of state kids too, who go like, yes, you're from another state, you should be. Yes, you're allowed into uc. You pay higher, way higher tuition. Fine. You want to put. Let a few international kids who are like some kind of spectacular nerds or whatever, you know, super nerds, you know, into mit, whatever, Great. But in these huge numbers, what it's done is made these schools just honestly so difficult to get into on top of just the regular American, you know, DEI affirmative action filters. Like you have all of this. So. So if you're just like, let's say a very high achieving, you know, straight white kid who isn't gay or trans or queer or whatever, and has a very high GPA and does great on the sats and stuff, he's. He's literally got no shot unless he's a superstar varsity athlete or has some other extraordinary, you know, capability in him. There's just no shot. UCLA was my safety school, okay. When I went to college, UCLA was like beneath me. Like, I was like, I would never have been caught dead. Like, let's just like now it had. Because it had like a 50, 60, 70% acceptance rate. You know, I wanted to go to like a fancy private school in the East Coast. Now UCLA is 8% acceptance, okay? 8%.
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That'S insane to me.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And then all the spots. So how many spots are actually in each freshman class for kids like, kids like my son? California, you know, can't check any diversity boxes. High achieving. Like how many spots in that class go to kids like that? Like 100 spots, like very small. They're just being taken up by so many of these foreign students who are paying, yes, full price. And so seeing it happen in Harvard is thrilling. And they. And meanwhile, half of them are what, Chinese CCP spies?
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Clay Travis
Well, this is the other. So there's, I break this down peachy into. There's the America first component of this, which I think that is very apt for this, this aspect of it. In California, it couldn't be any more clear. I mean, state schools, you're Educating foreign kids in our state schools in huge numbers. Right. You know, you want to talk about, like, diversity. I'm a little bit okay with the idea of a small percentage of the student body comes from other countries, because that is kind of interesting. But I want it to be. I want it to be 5%, maybe 10%. Max. Max. MIT, 30% UPenn, 30% Harvard, 30 foreign kids. I think Columbia is more like 50%. I mean, these schools.
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Buck Sexton
Columbia is really weird.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. Columbia is super high. These schools are just full of kids from all over the world. And by the way, this whole notion of, like, oh, well, like, we're taking the best of the best. Bull crap.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
They can't. Based on what? And this. This idea that we shouldn't advantage. So there's the America first component, which you and I agree on. But what you touched on about this as well is, is the. The ccp. I mean, you look at mit, you look at where the government funding is in some of these schools, particularly the. The schools who actually have to be able to do something to go. Which is kind of to their. To their credit. Right. Like, you don't go to Caltech because daddy donated the, you know, the, the lounge room for the crew team. Right. Like, if you go to Caltech, my chances are you can do some math, I would assume. Same thing with mit. Like, if you go to these places, there's a. There's a skill set that. But they also do things like figure out how to do missile technology. And they also work on drones. And the university technology centers are infiltrated by the CCP and other places all the time. We're supposed to think that they're really good at keeping this stuff out of the hands of foreign students. Why is the CCP so obsessed with sending their kids here?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I think it's obvious what's happening. They're exploiting all these loopholes. And their children are these, you know, rich. The rich children of, you know, the Chinese elite. But when they come here, they're just another diversity quota box that they're able to check off, oh, a student of Asian descent, a foreign student. And so that makes the school feel good. Would look good. Look at our numbers. They love to put in the brochure over 50%, you know, minority, whatever students. These children are not minorities in China.
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They're not. No Chinese person is a minority. Like, in the world like China, Chinese are like, what, a third of the world? Like, they're not minorities. Okay.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. Chinese are the least minority people on a global scale. In existence. So there's that.
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Buck Sexton
Right? They don't need our schools. Like, they do not need our schools. They have plenty of schools. Why are they so interested in sending in here? Is it for the prestige of Harvard?
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Okay. They can go and brag if their kid is at the American University. Is it so their children can then have anchor babies and they can. Oh, then now the whole family gets a passport.
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Clay Travis
This is what I tell them.
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Buck Sexton
Access to the United States.
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Clay Travis
Okay, well, you see this in California and I've been using this argument for years because the people, it's always like, what about the dreamers? And like, you know, you know, little so and so just came across the border. He's going to start the next Google. I'm like, okay, this is on the birthright citizenship issue. Hold on a second. In California, they have hotels. I know you know this, but for, for the audience, they have hotels where Chinese, and it's overwhelmingly Chinese who do this. Chinese show up, give birth, go back to China and then come back when they're 18 with a US passport in hand, go to UCLA or USC or whatever with their, with their American citizenship, even though they are fully Chinese. And then they sponsor their whole family to come over here and we're supposed to. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And they pay.
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And they pay in state tuition.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
14,000 a year versus like 40 out of state or foreign. So it's a complete scam. Yet in the OR in Orange county, they have these houses and they're just Chinese anchor baby mills. And there'll be a home filled with like 15 or 20 Chinese women. And they come here pregnant, they deliver and then go back. And they even have like a, there's even a surrogacy industry where Chinese couple in China will ship their frozen embryos to a surrogate in one of these homes to have their child and then the child is flown back to China for them. Like they never even have to come here.
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Clay Travis
I hadn't even heard about.
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Buck Sexton
And that is, that is wild. And that's, that is Orange county. These. And I mean in the area around like Irvine, California, which is like heavily Asian. And in fact, UC Irvine, I mean, I've, I have friends there. It's. They, their reports are like, this is just a completely 100 basic Chinese nationalist national school.
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Clay Travis
Wow.
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Buck Sexton
It's like the University of China in Irvine. I mean, you know, you'd think, okay, we're here, really, if it's going to be any other country, it should be Mexico. Like make it the University of Mexico. But the Chinese have Gamed the system. They're very. It's smart. Like we left these giant holes and they're just coming through in, in. In trucks loaded with. With their kids. And we're letting. And we're paying for it. Like, we're paying to educate their children.
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Clay Travis
My.
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Buck Sexton
My son did not get into ucla.
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Clay Travis
There we go. Yeah. I mean, look at what happened to Aunt. Aunt Becky from Full House, you know, ended up doing prison time. Because I was a huge and Becky fan as a kid. Just trying to get, you know, little Skyler or Taylor or whatever her daughter's name is into usc. So USC was. I think it was usc. Yeah, yeah. USC and like pretended she could row crew. Which. That girl. I mean, maybe she could have been a coxin, but like, she was not. You know, it's like an influencer.
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Buck Sexton
That's so ridiculous.
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Clay Travis
I know. I dated a crew girl. I know crew girls. Let me tell you, that girl is not a crew girl. Like, they.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, they'll. Yeah, they'll bench you.
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Clay Travis
They will bench you. Yeah, you got to be into that kind of thing, so.
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Buck Sexton
Well, the funny thing about.
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Clay Travis
Go ahead. Sorry.
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Buck Sexton
But the funniest thing about USC is that again, you have this hyper competitive environment around University of, of Southern California, which is like UCLA now has an acceptance rate of literally like 8 or 7%, which, you know, when I was going to school, those were like unheard of number. That was like Caltech numbers like 8%. But when I was so. But when I was applying, USC had like 40% acceptance. Like UCLA. These were not super competitive schools to get into.
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Clay Travis
Well, because you're competing. This is what I've had to tell to all the. My dad's generation. My dad was a Wall street guy. My dad's generation of finance bros. Because they're just like, oh, like when I came out, you know, my dad went to Harvard Business School. He's like, when I came out of school, I had offers from every bank on the street. And like, we were having to martini lunches and like, everything is great because you weren't competing against Mumbai and Shanghai, my man. Like, it's a different world out there now.
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Buck Sexton
That's right. We're. We're made to compete. Our kids are made to compete with kids from other countries. Like, before they've even got out of high school. They're competing with the children of the rich elite. Yes. In India and China and all around the world. And then they're competing with those kids again for jobs. And they're competing with those kids throughout their lives.
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Clay Travis
Our university system is. Is. I. It's a national resource. And you'll notice that with very few exceptions, like, yeah, Oxford, you know, some people, if they want to be, like, really kind of Euro fancy, will be like, oh, I'm going to, like, science po or whatever. Right. They'll go. Very few Americans go to overseas universities. I mean, it's a. It's like a less than 1% number. Like, people just don't do this. But yet in our country, it's the biggest countries in the world, and countries from all over the world are just. I'm so glad Trump is on this. And I think it's a big deal. I don't think it's a small thing. I think it goes to US Competitiveness and everything else. Can I just one more thought for you. Did you see that the Harvard Business School professor who is paid a million dollars a year was an expert in honesty and was fired by Harvard for dishonesty? That just happened.
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Buck Sexton
That's so perfect.
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Clay Travis
It's like, my favorite Harvard story ever. I'm, like this overpaid phony whose expertise is dishonesty or honesty or whatever, and she's fired for faking results in the studies that prove her expertise. And this is. By the way, this is all Claudine Gay, who was the former Harvard president. This person. She's the president of Harvard.
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Buck Sexton
You know, I mean, she's. Yeah, she was fired, but she wasn't actually fired. She was like, just. She just switched jobs. Getting close to a million a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Clay Travis
They basically. In the CIA, we call that getting sent to the archives. Like, they don't want to fire you, but they'll send you somewhere where you can't do any damage, you know? And you keep getting your paychecks.
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Buck Sexton
Right.
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Clay Travis
She got sent to the archives.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. So Harper's off the list, you know.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, Harvard's off the list. Peachy. Great to have you. I hope you'll come back soon. And we got to get you on Clay and Buck radio sometime when you want to bash the Chinese Communists and how they're infiltrating and destroying our country. I think that would be a good one. So what do you say?
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Buck Sexton
I love Chinese food. Okay. Not all bad.
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Clay Travis
Chinese food is great. A lot of great. A lot of. Some people are saying a lot of. A lot of. You know, a lot of great people. But, yeah, totally. I'm with you on that. So go buy domestic. When did domestic extremists come out?
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Buck Sexton
It came out, let's see, June 2023.
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Clay Travis
Oh, okay. Recent. So go buy domestic extremists everybody. And Peachy, thanks for being here.
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