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BONUS: Trump ROCKS State of the Union, while Democrats RAGE in Fury - Verdict with Ted Cruz
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Ted Cruz
I love it when we get to have a joint address to Congress, the State of the Union and Senator Cruz and I get to do a combined podcast welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, and for my audience, you're going to hear the same show on the Ben Ferguson Podcast. So welcome to you guys as well. Senator, you just, I'm curious, for a.
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Joint address, do you call your show Ben Ferguson with Ted Cruz?
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That's right, Ben Ferguson with Ted Cruz. That's a, that's a great audible. I'm digging that right there.
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There you go. I'm just trying to help you out.
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I like that. At Ben Ferguson Podcast with Ted Cruz, it's we'll get a sign made, get a logo. Done. I'm sold. I'm sold. You just left the Joint Session center and it was one hell of a night. If there's anything you can say, Democrats pretty much stood for nothing, like at all.
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Well, look, this is where doing the podcast is fun. It is 12:28 in the morning. I just got home to my DC apartment about 5 minutes ago and just left the State of the Union. And the State of the Union, I gotta say, it was, I think, a spectacular State of the Union address from President Trump. It's the fifth one he's given. I think it was triumphant. I think it was positive. I think it was forward looking. I think it emphasized exactly what you and I predicted in Monday's pod that he was going to emphasize. It emphasized promises made, promises kept, the victories we've seen in the first month and a half of the presidency. But I gotta say, all of that was overshadowed in many ways by the utterly disgraceful behavior of the Democrats. It was something I've never seen before. It was shocking, it was disrespectful, it was defiant, it was delusional. We're going to break it all down. We're going to break down the best parts of the speech, the best things President Trump had to say and we're going to talk about what it indicates that today's Democrat Party stands for nothing, applauds for nothing, does not cheer on America. It is something never before seen at a State of the Union address. We're going to break it down and what it means.
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Yeah, it was truly an incredible night. And like you said, I think it's probably the best speech the president's ever given. I want to tell you real quick about our friends over at the ifcj. After more than a year of war, terror and pain in Israel, all of Israel is brokenhearted after learning of the tragic deaths of the Beavis children who were held hostage in Gaza. And so many are still hurting throughout the Holy Land, where the need for aid is unfortunately continuing to grow. That is where the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has stepped in. And you have stepped in to help support the families of the hostages and other victims of the October 7th terror attacks. And with your help, IFCJ has provided financial and emotional help to hostages and their families and to those healing and rebuilding their broken homes and broken bodies. But the real work is really just beginning. Now your gift will help provide critically needed support to families in Israel whose lives continue to be destroyed by terror and uncertainty as Israel remains surrounded by enemies. You can give a gift to bless Israel inner people and have a real impact today by visiting supportifcj.org that's one word. Support ifcj.org now you can also call them 888-488-IFCJ. That's 888-488IFCJ or online IT support IFCJ Center. I want to start with what stole the show you mentioned a second ago. And, and you, I know, probably had a mentalist in your, in your head in there in the room. I was making notes on my phone and putting them out on X. Of all the things that Democratic lawmakers couldn't stand up to honor. It's a long list.
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Yeah, but, but look, let's start with the very beginning of the night. The very beginning of the night is when the president walks onto the floor of the Senate and he's introduced the president of the United States and not a single Democrat stood. Not a single Democrat applauded. Now, Ben, listen, I've been to 13 state of the Union addresses. I've gone to every one since I got elected to the Senate. And I actually love going to the State of the Union. There's a pageantry to it. There's something amazing. It's more fun when your guy's in office, it's more fun when you get to cheer on your own party. But I go when the Democrats are in office. And I gotta tell you, every single time Joe Biden walked in, every single time Barack Obama walked in, I stood up and I applauded. Not because I agreed with their agendas, their agendas were disgraceful and disastrous, but because I respect the office of President of the United States and I respect the American people. And. And I have never once seen the opposing party refuse to applaud for the president. Understand what a break with tradition that is. Even in past years, the Democrats applauded at the outset for the President of the United States. Until tonight and the entire night. I guess I'm actually grumpy with the Democrats because they've stolen my favorite game to play at the State of the Union.
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So I know, by the way, I know this game, and that's why I'm laughing right now, because it was a great game you created years ago.
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Yeah, and we've talked about it in the pod before. So. The State of the Union address. Look, if your party's in power, it's. You know, I joke. It's like I actually was sitting with Dave McCormick, the new senator from Pennsylvania, who's, you know, an army veteran. And I said, all right, Dave, this is going to be like PT in the Army. Get ready for Jane Fonda aerobics. You're gonna pop up and down and up and down. And imagine the truck, the president's wearing leg warmers, and you're just gonna be doing nothing. But every four words, standing up and applauding. And that's what we did. I gotta say, you know, my thighs are killing me from. From. From. From just doing squats all night.
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But I want to see the stats, by the way, on your aura ring. I want to know how.
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What's the cal.
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What's the calorie burn during a state. The longest State of the Union ever with Donald Trump speaking. Now, that's real intel I need.
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So, I don't know. I could look at it in a second. And I don't know if they count as steps, because we're not moving. We're just standing and sitting and standing and sitting and standing and sitting. But what I like doing during a State of the Union is watching the opposing party and picking out, like, a couple of senators or House members, and typically the more moderate ones, and watching them agonize over what to applaud or what to stand for. And in the past, you know, I'd look At like a Joe Manchin. And you know, he would be, you know, America is great. And you'd see a few Democrats applaud for that, even stand, we support the troops. And they'd kind of agonize, okay, I guess I can support the troops. But then they'd go back and forth. Tonight they stood for nothing. So they stood. They did not stand for Jocelyn Nungaree's mother, the 12 year old beautiful girl raped and murdered in Texas by illegal immigrants. They would not stand for Alexis. They did not stand for Lake and Riley's mother and sister. They did not stand for a 13 year old kid surviving brain cancer. Like, how do you not. Like, like okay, I'm a crazy partisan who hates trump, but okay, 13 year old kid surviving brain cancer wants to be a cop. Like I'll like literally every single State of the Union address that has been given from the beginning of time, every person on the floor would have stood for the 13 year old kid or survived brain cancer. Zero Democrats stood. I looked at them, they didn't say that.
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Was, was it emotional in there? Because I was watching it and I got choked up watching it and there was a lot of people that were texting me like, dude, I'm crying right now. Because when you see a little kid and how big his eyes got, you may not have been able to see it from the floor because they zoomed in, but when they said, we're gonna make you an agent, his eyes got so big he clearly didn't know it was gonna happen. His dad didn't know either. And it was just one of those get a lump in your throat, choke up moments.
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So I will say it was emotional, but it was true. When you were in the chamber, we couldn't see the kids facial expressions. It was just too far away that you couldn't see it. So I saw his facial expressions for the first time about a half hour ago when I did Hannity and Sean played the close up and so I could see, I mean I saw the kid and it was beautiful and we were cheering and like when Trump made him an honorary Secret Service agent, that was really cool. But you're right, the closeup of his facial expressions was really powerful. And he's a Texan. DJ Daniel is a Texan. You had Alexis Nungri, who was a Texan, but, but it was amazing. Look, the Democrats did not stand. They didn't stand for cutting taxes, they didn't stand for no taxes on tips. They didn't stand for automakers building new manufacturing plants in America. They didn't stand for steel workers. They didn't stand for Border Patrol agents. It was. They didn't stand for a kid going to West Point whose father was a police officer killed in the line of duty. And the president admitted him to West Point in the middle of the speech, which was a pretty amazing moment too. Like it was. But I will say this is actually, there was one thing the entire night they stood and clapped for. Do you know what it was?
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What was that?
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They stood and clapped for giving hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine.
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There you go. I knew there was a moment there, but the pant that when the feet I saw, you could hear the room get louder, but I wasn't sure if they were standing for it. And so that was the moment.
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So not everyone stood, but a number of them stood. A number of them pulled out Ukrainian flags. None of them had American flags, but a number of them pulled out Ukrainian flags. And I got to say, look, you could have disagreements about the war on Ukraine, but what the hell does it say about Democrats that they will cheer for Ukraine but not for America?
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Ted Cruz
You go back to what you said about those emotional moments. There was also moments in there that were good for the American people.
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Yes.
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And just policies. I mean, you can't clap for tax cuts. You can't clap for a secure border, which was something, by the way, they said that they were in favor of. Remember when they were like, well, it's us that we're in favor of it. Us still workers, they couldn't clap for. They couldn't clap for. I go back to the West Point for a moment. That was another emotional moment where you've got a young man that's getting into West Point who had a tragedy in his family life and they wouldn't stand for that. And then the capture of terrorists, by the way, that one actually was responsible.
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For murdering service 13 servicemen and women in Afghanistan capturing the terrorists. And they're not happy to capture the terrorists. People who killed.
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Can we play that clip? Because it's an important one. Just this is what the President said. It's not hard to clap for this or stand for this. It should be like a universal everyone stand moment of our country.
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Donald Trump
Tonight, I am pleased to announce that we have just apprehended the top terrorist responsible for that atrocity. And he is right now on his way here to face the swift sword of American justice.
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Ted Cruz
I mean, that. That was, by the way, breaking news to 99.9% of the people I'm assuming in the room.
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Certainly to me, I didn't know that to you.
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Okay. So I was wondering if you guys knew that, because it seemed like that people, everybody was kind of caught off guard. Like, that was new to everyone. And yet the President says it. You can hear half the room erupt, the other half like, nope, nope, nope. Terrorists that kills Americans that we're bringing back to America. Nope, that's under Donald Trump can't.
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And listen, I was looking over at the Democrats and repeatedly turning to the folks around me, just saying, what the hell is wrong with these people? Like it is. How do you not cheer for that? And I think the answer is they're so filled with hate. This is now the party of hate and rage. And they hate Donald Trump, they hate Elon Musk, and they're just. And they hate the voters that elected Donald Trump. And so there always were points. Listen, in Democrat State of the Union addresses, there have been a number of things that I applauded for. If they say something that I agree with, I happily applaud for. If they, you know, anytime they talk about supporting the troops, by the way, at a State of the Union. So the Supreme Court never, never applauds other than they applaud at the beginning. So the Supreme Court applauds traditionally at the President of the United States when he's introduced. And that's typically the only thing they applaud for. The Joint Chiefs, they usually do the same thing. They'll applaud at the introduction of the President of the United States. But I'll tell you, the Joint Chiefs, they applauded at the kid when he was admitted to West Point. And it was. I noticed that the generals applauding, and yet not a Democrat would. And I gotta say, Ben, there was a lot in this speech to applaud for. As I said, I think this is the best speech President Trump has ever given. And so I was happy and enthusiastically applauding. Now, if you did not have two hours to listen to the speech, Tonight, if you didn't actually watch it, we've tried to help you out on this podcast. So we have a montage where we, we've selected some of the key moments of the speech. And it's a little over three minutes, so it's not very long. So if you didn't have two hours, here's three minutes that sums up the best moments from President Trump's State of the Union address tonight.
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Donald Trump
I return to this chamber tonight to report that America's momentum is back, our spirit is back, our pride is back, our confidence is back. And the American dream is surging bigger and better than ever before. And we have ended weaponized government, where as an example, a sitting president is allowed to viciously prosecute his political opponent like me. How did that work out? Within hours of taking the oath of office, I declared a national emergency on our southern border. And I deployed the U.S. military and Border patrol to repel the invasion of our country. And what a job they've done as a result. Illegal border crossings last month were by far the lowest ever recorded ever. To unshackle our economy, I have directed that for every one new regulation, 10 old regulations must be eliminated, just like I did in my very successful first day. And I have stopped all government censorship and brought back free speech in America. It's back. We've ended the tyranny of so called diversity, equity and inclusion policies all across the entire federal government and indeed the private sector and our military and our country will be woke no longer. I also signed an executive order to ban men from playing in women's sports. And in the near future, I want to do what has not been done in 24 years. Balance the federal budget. We're going to balance that 1.3 million people from ages 150 to 159. And over 130,000 people according to the Social Security databases are age over 160 years old. We have a healthier country than I thought, Bobby. Including to finish 1039 people between the ages of 220 and 229. One person between the age of 240 and 249. And one person is listed at 360 years of age, more than 100 years, more than 100 years older than our country. But we're going to find out where that money's going and it's not going to be pretty.
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Ted Cruz
I mean, this speech, to go back to what you said at the beginning, number one, it did not feel long. And there's an art when you're speechwriting that you want to be done before people are ready for you to be done.
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Yep.
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This speech did not seem long. I want to know what it felt like when you were in the chamber, number one. But two, like the President came in and just brought the heat. And I think the American people are going to respond to this.
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So, look, I thought it was a terrific speech. As I said, it was optimistic, it was positive. It was focused on results. The results that the President has been producing and Republicans have been producing in just over 40 days. I mean, it really is incredible. It was also a funny speech. Like that whole litany going through the people on Social Security over 120 and over 200 years and over 300 years old. Every line of it was funny. He had a whole litany. He went through Doge and the wasteful spending. That was just hysterical. And by the way, we're cracking up laughing. All the Republicans, no Democrat laughed, like, even on the funny lines, as he goes through, they support every bit of waste possible. And just across the board now in terms of the length. So this was the longest State of the Union in history. And I'll tell you. So I was sitting with Tommy Tuberville from Alabama. I was sitting with Josh Hawley from Missouri, and I was sitting with Dave McCormick from Pennsylvania.
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By the way, how does that work? How do you decide who you sit with? Does it just happen organically or do you guys text each other before and you're like, let's hang out?
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No, no, no. You just kind of. We all, all the senators gather on the Senate floor, and then we walk from the Senate floor over to the House floor across the Capitol, and we walk in together, and the House saves the front seats for the Senate. And so they actually give the best seats to the Senate, which is nice. Nice of the House to do. And so there are a whole bunch of seats, I presume, 100 seats that are kept in the front. And they have little placards on the seats that say reserved for a Senator. But other than leadership, like John Thune and the elected leadership, they have seats that are reserved specifically for them. But for everyone else, it's just Senator, and you can sit wherever you want. And so just as you walk in, you take the open seat. So it's a little bit happenstance, but as we were preparing, we actually had a friendly wager on how long the speech was gonna go. So I bet that it was going to go 93 minutes. So an hour and 33 minutes. Josh Hawley, who was sitting next to me, bet it was gonna go an hour and 37 minutes.
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Ah, okay. Playing a little bit of prices, right?
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Little Price is right. Tommy Tuberville and Dave McCormick both bet an hour and 40 minutes. So we were all in the same neighborhood. And actually the one who won was Holly. So it was in fact an hour and 38 minutes. So I was five minutes off, but Josh was only one minute off. And if he'd got another minute, McCormick and Tuberville would have won. But it was. So it was interesting that those were the four of our.
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How did you guys pick that number, by the way? Did you see enough beforehand or excerpts or themes, you know, or just pure gut?
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We had not seen a text of it at all. It's just knowing Donald Trump and having been to State of the Union addresses before, look, I mean we knew it was going to be about an hour and a half, maybe a little bit more. And so that we knew he had a lot to say. It was not going to be a short speech and. But it didn't feel long. You're right. I mean it was. There was storytelling in it. It was funny, it was relating powerful moments. And then as I said, the antics of the Democrats really look, including sadly, Al Green, congressman from your in my hometown Houston, who stood up and just made a complete ass of himself.
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I was going to ask you on that one because it played on TV like it was very clearly preplanned. And for people that don't know him, this the guy that he's now called for trying to impeach the third time he led impeachment the first second he's. That's like his thing. And so as soon as the president's elect, it's like, oh yeah, yeah, we gotta impeach this guy and we're gonna call for impeachment.
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It.
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It played on TV like it was 100% pre planned by him to do that or maybe even the Democratic Party. I don't know if they were involved or this is just his own brainchild. What was it like being there though?
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So look, I think everyone was shocked. Shocked and not shocked. We expected the Democrats to misbehave and engage in antics. I didn't expect that they would refuse to applaud for anything. And I've never seen. There've been a couple of instances where House members have called out like have. You know, Joe Wilson famously said when Obamacare. Said when Obama said. I think it was on Obamacare, if you want your health in church, you can keep it. And Joe Wilson famously Called out, you lie. And that was a big deal. That one congressman called out two words was a big deal that people still talk about a decade later.
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And by the way, the media totally freaked out the entire night afterwards. Like, I can't believe they do this. He shouldn't be in Congress, should resign. I mean, and then tonight, nothing from the mainstream media on this one.
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And look, he stood up, he interrupted the speech. And by the way, I don't know, could you hear what he was saying?
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No, we could not. I thought it very interesting that it looked like Speaker Johnson was ready in cases happened because he looked down to read the words. He was reading about the rules.
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So what he was saying, it's interesting what he got mad at. He got mad when Trump said, I've got a mandate from the election. And Al Green stood up and he was yelling, saying, you don't have a mandate. You do not have a mandate. And it was. The Democrats are in absolute denial. They're in denial that the election happened. Look, the facts are straightforward. Trump, of the seven swing states, he won all seven. He won the popular vote in this country, something that Republicans haven't done for 20 years. He won a Republican House and a Republican Senate. Any way you look at it, that's a mandate. And yet that's what Al Green was screaming about. And he kept on screaming and interrupting the President. The president finally had to stop. I mean, he was standing right in the middle and just screaming and trying to yell over the President. And the speaker gaveled him down and said, listen, if you don't maintain decorum, the sergeant at arms will remove you. And Al Green kept on yelling and so the sergeant at arms removed him. And by the way, the speaker said tonight on Hannity that Al Green is likely going to be censured by the House of Representatives, which I think is unsurprising, because if you disturb an official proceeding like that, that's the natural remedy.
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Now not a Democrat clapped for not, not one. And by the way, just this past week, every single Democrat in the Senate voted against protecting girls from, from boys competing in sports. Every one of them. And you know, in the campaign, listen, in my reelection campaign, Colin Allred claims I don't support boys playing in girls sports. Well, every Senate except the fact that he voted for it over and over and over again. Every single Senate Democrat, when they're on reelection campaigns, they tell the voters I don't support boys and girls sports. And yet every single one of them just voted for it and not a one of them applauded. I mean, it's the simple reality how extreme their party is. Now. I will tell you one thing that was particularly meaningful to me was all the Texans whom President Trump honored tonight, including Alexis Nungaree, the mom of Jocelyn. Now, Alexis was going to be my guest tonight. Every senator gets one guest. And I had invited Alexis, she was coming up as my guest. And then the President invited her. So she went and she was sitting with Melania Trump. I was really grateful for her being invited by the President to come there. And then right next to Melania Trump was Elliston Berry. And Ellison Berry is someone, also another Texan who was the inspiration for the Take It Down Act. So Elliston berry is a 15 year old girl from North Texas, from Alito, who, when she was 14 and a freshman in high school, a boy, a classmate of hers, took an innocent social media picture of her and used artificial intelligence to create a deep, fake naked image of her that appeared to be real, but it was fake, and then sent it to her classmates. And she was the inspiration for my legislation, the Take It down act, which passed the Senate unanimously.
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And by the way, how many times have you been involved in legislation that was passed unanimously in your career in the Senate?
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A lot of times I've passed 101 different pieces of legislation into law. A number of them were unanimous. The Senate often if you do the work, you can bring people together and pass something. And actually just yesterday, the First Lady, Melania Trump came to the Capitol, first time she has as first lady, the second term, supporting the Take It Down Act. And we did a roundtable which we're gonna talk about significantly more on Friday's pod, but we did a roundtable where Melania Trump heard from Elliston Berry, heard from other victims of non consensual intimate images, and called on the House to pass the Take It Down Act. And President Trump tonight called on the House to pass the Take It Down Act. So I was really glad. The two people directly next to Melania Trump to her left were two Texans, Elliston Berry and Alexis Nungare. And that made me very happy.
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That may have been one of the best parts of the night. Let's talk about what this looks like moving forward. I think the President's speech is gonna play very well with the American people. I think it's gonna help with momentum moving forward. Forward. I also do think that the American people in the Way they were watching this on tv, saw the, the, the shocking moments when they wouldn't stand for children that were, you know, murdered by illegal immigrants, their families, police officers die in live duty, duty. It was on the list. I mean, you look at all of this, bringing an American hostage home from Russia, by the way, they wouldn't stand for that. That was another moment we left out earlier that. Were you shocked by that as well?
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Well, and you and I covered Mark Fogel coming back. We covered that on the podcast when it happened. That was one of the multiple times I turned to the folks around me and I'm like, what the hell is wrong with these people? Like, like, how do you not, this is not partisan. This is not. I get that they don't cheer for, you know, conservative ideas because they're all wacko lefties, but how do you not cheer for things that are just unambiguously good? And it's today's Democrat Party, it's a combination. They become the party of hate and rage and they're in denial. They don't know how to respond to this election other than to fume and glare. And I gotta say, if you're an elected Democrat, how do you think this is a good message to the American people? We hate everyone and everything. That's the Democrats. Like, I don't get that.
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No, I don't either. So what happens now? My, this is my prediction. I think the President's approval rating is going to stay solid and in certain categories support on certain issues will actually rise coming out of this State of the Union. I think this is going to continue the momentum on, on things like Doge and even in some of the issues that we're talking about that are in tough ones, whether it's dealing with Mexico and cartels or tariffs or Canada and Fentanyl, the list goes on and on. I think same thing on, on Ukraine funding. I think this could catapult him to even greater near term success. That's a lot of political capital that he, that, that Obviously you want your, your prediction.
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Look, I, I, I agree with you. I, I think the American people are going to be happy with this speech. They're going to be happy with the results. The American people are happy with successes for America. And we're getting on the border. Seeing illegal immigrations and illegal border crossings drop over 90%, that's an unambiguous victory. On energy, seeing energy production going up, seeing regulations being repealed, seeing wasteful spending being eliminated, those are unambiguous victories. In terms of jobs he went through the investments, the investments on new investments, whether from Oracle or Apple or car companies bringing new factories here. Those are big wins. Those are the sorts of things. Those are the sorts of things. Frankly, when Joe Biden talked about if he, you know, he Democrats in their speeches would talk about a new factory and you know what? The Republicans would all stand and cheer because hey, a new factory in America is a good thing. And we, even if we don't support many, if not most of Biden and Obama's policies, we cheer for the American people. I think the president's message was really strong, but I also think the contrast with the Democrats made it even stronger. And so I think this was a good night for America, but not a good night for today's Democrat party.
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