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Buck Brief - Are Democrats Ready to Be Less Insane? with Shermichael Singleton
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Shermichael Singleton
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Buck Sexton
Hey Clay, if there was a summer camp for critical thinking, we'd be the chief counselors. Those jelly heads in June would be intellectual warriors by August. Be a lot of fun to some Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. References thrown in this podcast, like a daily dose of that, minus the campfires, archery and pranking the girls. The bonafide boot camp for critical thinking. You can get in on it for free at the I iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcast. Just search our names, Play and Bach. Listen and subscribe. You're listening to the Buck Sexton show podcast.
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Shermichael Singleton
Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Sir Michael Singleton is in the mix with us today. Shermichael and I go way back. You know him from tv, cnn, conservative commentator. He's a gun guy. So he's a man after my own heart. And he's doing great work, great work these days. We'll talk to him about all, all of the above. Let's start with this. You know, I occasionally get to see some fun clips of you on cnn. You and Scott Jennings. I would say standing for conservatism, but really just standing for sanity, I think is a more apt description of it. But what's it like these days? I mean, when you see what the Democrats are trying to do, are they actually turning the ship around away from crazy town, or are they just still going right into it?
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Shermichael Singleton
First of all, I gotta say, Buck, shout out to Scott Jennings. I mean, I love, love, love Scott Jennings. We text all the time. I mean, I have a group text with a lot of my friends and Scott comes up a lot. And some of my friends aren't even Republican and they respect Scott. Like guys respect Scott Jennings because they look at Scott Jennings like this is a guy's guy. And so I just want to say shout out to him because I have a lot of love and admiration for that guy. He's just a really, really good human being. And I, I really feel honored to sort of be on set with him. He's been at CNN for almost 10 years now. I was there for a year left and now I'm back. And so it's just sort of good to have that space with someone where you have like minded views about a lot of things. To answer your question, though, about Democrats, it's what Gavin Newsom said, the governor of California, it's what Bennett, the senator out of Colorado just said recently. I think we're Kristen Welker on msnbc, that their party is toxic, that that is a reality and they have not learned anything. They haven't, they haven't gathered their thoughts. They haven't paused and said, well, let us recollect and figure out why did we lose Latino men and women? Why did we lose a subset of black men? Why did we lose younger men across the demographic board? And why did we lose even some young women? Depending on what poll you want to look at, they haven't stopped to sort of figure any of that out. And while you have some of these special elections, I think five of them, they may have two that I thought should have gone to a Republican. And then they're saying, well, see, that means we were right. Just last year was just a fluke. Well, I would say not necessarily, because even in those races, it didn't change the shape of power in the legislature in those two states, Pennsylvania being one. Then they want to bring up Florida, say, oh, we're going to be a big deal for us. Nonsense. 30 plus our district. Yeah, the candidate there may underperform the president. Not because people are pissed. To be quite frank, if you look at the reporting at the Hill, Buck, you're down in Florida. This candidate, I'm going to be honest, Buck, and I don't know what your thoughts are on this, but in my opinion, he's kind of been a lazy guy. That's why he's going to slightly perform a little worse than President Trump. Has nothing to do with any other dynamics that the media and Democrats are trying.
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Buck Sexton
If I could just be fair. I don't actually know Randy Fine, we had him on the show recently. But when you think you're in a plus 30, you know, I'm sure a lot of Democrats who are running in San Francisco and, you know, like the northern part of Virginia that's right next to D.C. they probably get a little lazy, too, insofar as they're like, look, I'm going to win this thing. Right. So it's. It's tough to get. No, I mean. But I've seen that same reporting point.
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Shermichael Singleton
I'm trying to make, though, Buck, is that the way they're trying to create the narrative is like, this person is going to underperform because we're doing so well. And what I'm simply saying is that's not the case. And then even in Wisconsin, they say, oh, this is another big bellwether. There is a retiring Democratic state Supreme Court justice who's retiring. If Democrats win that seat, they're not replacing a Republican. This isn't some big upset. And the fact that we have spent in total, Both sides, over $80 million in this race, if they do win this seat, which I think there's a chance that they might, the fact that we forced them to spend so much money. Buck suggests the strength on our side, not necessarily this rebound of Democrats. So I'm pointing out those examples and the other special elections to simply say that in my opinion, they have not learned anything at all. Even on immigration, they haven't learned anything. You look at this issue with the signal gate nonsense. And look, I have said, and I think everybody said, look, we could have done this a little differently. Even Walls, he came out and said, I think a week ago, said, look, we could have done some things differently here. We acknowledge that the era we're going to look at it and we're going to figure out how we're going to do things better moving forward. I respect that acknowledgment. But anytime I or even Scott Jennings and I said this on CNN last Sunday on State of the Union with Dana Bash, I said, if you're going to make a moral argument, people only keep looking backwards. Well, I have to look backwards and I have to look backwards because I want to know what credibility you bring to this disposition that you're now forming when you say, oh, this is hypocrisy. It's the worst thing that we've seen in America's history in terms of leaks. And I can't believe that they would talk like this with highly classified information on an app that anybody could Download. Yet in 2021, when 13American troops were murdered, dozens more severely wounded, no one asked for anyone to be fired. Buck. And even when one of the president's senior advisors wanted to offer his resignation, Joe Biden, at this time, Sullivan said, I don't want to accept your resignation. And so my point simply is if you're going to frame an argument around something, have the moral standing to say, well, this is what we did. We help people to account four years ago. You guys should do the same. That wasn't the case. And so again, another example to suggest to me as a just that they have anything and I think whatever elections they may win here or there, that to me isn't necessarily about a resurgence of Democratic strength. Not at all.
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Buck Sexton
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Shermichael Singleton
I get worried before a different reason because I think assessment and critique of free trade is spot on. And if you go back to the early 90s, I mean hell, I was maybe four years old then, so I don't remember this. I had to go back and read and Buck, you're only what in you're what, 36, 37. So hell, you were pretty young too.
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Buck Sexton
I'm 43. Sure. Michael, that's just, this is just a lot of, you know, a lot of self care over many years. But thank you for that. I appreciate that.
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Shermichael Singleton
Well, okay. Well, hey bro, you got good genetics my man.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you.
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Shermichael Singleton
But, but I was gonna make is the promise of free trade was that having these free trade agreements with Canada, Mexico, NAFTA in particular, and there are others that we have agreed to over the, over the time Spanish, that these things would be a net benefit to the American consumer, the American people, generally speaking, because it will lower the cost for a whole set of goods. The problem with that is we have seen over time is that it completely destroyed a significant sector of the middle class. A lot of when you talk about the Rust Belt, for example, and you look at crisis there, you look at and I'm going to bring this up because Democrats talk a lot about the implications of tariffs on communities of color. Well, Buck, there was a significant subset of black middle class that rose out of the manufacturing sector in part because a lot of black men in particular and some black women, but certainly black men were able to get good paying jobs, 401ks working in those manufacturing plants. When those businesses shipped overseas, you saw the complete erosion of billions of dollars of net worth for white and black working class Americans across this country. And that's why you see many places, a lot of places in the Rust Belt that are now desolate. They're almost like desert towns now. You couldn't even imagine that they were once upon a time thriving towns. And so Donald Trump's critique that tariffs can be a equilibrium, if you will, to sort of reset and bring at least a quarter of those jobs back to the United States. He's right. And why many unions who are not traditionally Republican supporting groups are saying, wait a minute here. This would bring back potentially hundreds of thousands of jobs which are necessary. This would increase pay for a lot of our union members. Where I think the president has to be careful is on. That sort of pass through tax will be to the consumer. So when you have tariffs, a manufacturer is essentially going to pass it on by increasing the price of goods. There are a couple of ways that I have been thinking about that I would advise the president Buck, to consider. You can look at tax incentives or credit. So the government can essentially offer tax credits or deductions to companies that lower the prices for consumers. If the cost to make goods are going to be more expensive. You can look at subsidies, for example. Let's talk about cars. That's been a big conversation. Well, cars are going to be more, up to two, $3,000 more. You can look at subsidies to lower costs similarly to what we've done to help reduce the price of electric vehicles, which we're still sort of doing. That's one potential way to not pass on costs to the consumer. And then you have potential pass through pressures. Pressure. So that essentially would be a tax benefit tied to passing savings on to consumers. An example like that would be rebates or price caps. So companies would essentially be incentivized to lower prices to qualify for these rebates. Again, those are comprehensive economic strategies. That the President could implement to say, look, we understand that these tariffs for a little while will essentially increase the price of goods on the consumer. So let us look at tax incentives and credits for companies. Let us look at subsidies, lower costs. Let us look at pass through such as rebates and price caps so that the consumer doesn't have to the bulk of that. And so I would advise President Trump but to look at some of those measures because overall I think he's 100% right to focus on saying, hey, we have to bring manufacturing back. It's in our national security interest. Too much of our shit is made in China. That is not good for us. And then two, it is good to rebuild the American middle class. Again, not everybody's going to be wearing a suit and tie and C suite. That has never been the bulk of how people in this country have thrived. So bring back good paying jobs where again, a lot of men who work with their hands and get those trade skills for this new burgeoning economy. And so I give the President 100% support. And what he's trying to do, I just think he has to incentivize through the three or four different plans that I just articulated. So that again, the bulk of that, that hurt, that pain isn't felt on working class people.
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Buck Sexton
Let's talk about guns. You're a big gun guy.
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Shermichael Singleton
Guns.
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Buck Sexton
Love guns. He loves guns. I don't know if you saw. I got to train with former Dev Group operator DJ Shipley.
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Shermichael Singleton
Can I cuss on your podcast?
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Buck Sexton
No, but we'll bleep that out.
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Shermichael Singleton
Oh, sorry, man. No freaking way. My bad.
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Buck Sexton
No, no, it's okay. We'll bleep it. We'll bleep it. But that's a great reaction. Yeah, no, I got to train with DJ. It was incredible. It was. Do you know DJ? DJ's amazing.
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Shermichael Singleton
Of course I know. You kidding me? Of course, dude. That's why I said no effing way.
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Buck Sexton
That's crazy. You've got. You do. I'll. I know a guy. I could put you in tight. You got to. Because, you know, you've got your project going now. I mean, you guys should def GBRS group. You should definitely do something with your new project with them. Yeah. So he was amazing. It was. Honestly, I've done. I've trained with a lot of different operators from the past. And including when I was in the CIA, we were trained by operators to be outgoing CIA officers. Right? So they would bring in. I mean, they bring in MARSOC guys, seals Delta whomever. And they would run the basic basics of training for us. Right. So it was a great foundation for us. You know, they could take you all the way up to far more advanced stuff. But they were. It was like. It's like learning how to drive from an F1 driver. Like that was kind of, kind of how it was in the CIA. I'm like. I was like, you're still Team six and you're like teaching me how to. Or, you know, they were SEAL Team 6 and then it was. Yeah, some of them were training me how to do stuff. Anyway, DJ Shipley's amazing. So anybody who wants to train, I would say.
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Shermichael Singleton
D.J.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah. I would say go. Go find a way to get yourself in a GBRS class. They are doing some classes now for the general public and I highly recommend it. Anyway, tell me about what you're doing now and what, what you're up to now in that space, because I think stuff.
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Shermichael Singleton
Yeah. Before I get into that, I just, I really have to ask, and I've never asked you this in terms of that direct training, what for you did you enjoy most? For me, we've had the. I've had the opportunity to train with a lot of SOCOM guys doing a lot of cqb. I absolutely freaking lutely love cqb, whether it's with the team or whether it's my, you know, by myself, just learning how to properly pie around corners, learning how to properly engage, learning how to expect the unexpected. I absolutely love that stuff. It gets the heart flow and the adrenaline pumping. It is hard as hell, but I love it. But what for, like, what for you, like, what did you love about that train?
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Buck Sexton
I'm just, it will just. You're getting the, the best instruction imaginable in honestly a lot of the fundamentals which I think people sometimes, sometimes people overlook. I mean, I spent. I mean, DJ can sit there and did. He'll sit there and he'll talk to you about grip in the, in the middle of a training session. He'll talk to you about grip for like 10 minutes. Just, just talking about different. Just, you know, the level of knowledge. Like, I've been around people who are at the top of their game in different things. You're around somebody who's a truly top of their. And it's not all theoretical. This is a guy who's done many combat tours and, and has been in the most kind of real deal close quarters battle imaginable. Right. I mean, he's a SEAL Team 6 operator at the peak of the global war on terror. I know when I was in CIA, what these guys were doing. So I mean, he could, it's like, how deep do you want to go on the subject? He can go that deep. And so for me, it was really just trying to lock down more fundamentals because look, here's the reality, this is a whole other conversation. But you and I both know most people, and these are like a lot of our two way people that we love because they're, you know, they believe in the right to bear arms, they're doing their part. But for most people going to the range and you know, and I'm not casting any aspersions because I, I've seen this and I, I've been in this situation too. You go, you bring your gun, there's 10 people in a line, you know, maybe there's plexiglass next to you or whatever, and you're indoors and you take your gun out and you pop off some rounds and you're focused in on, you know, what is my, what is my A grouping or, you know, can I, can I do what Mel Gibson did in Lethal Weapon and make a smiley face on this target or, you know, whatever. Right. And you know, with one hand, by the way. I mean, the whole thing was like, remember when he was doing this spinning around on the ground and shooting the, spinning around on the, on the floor, shooting the gun. Like the whole thing, so absurd. But I love Mel, I love Mel Gibson, I love Lethal Weapon movies. But the thing is, when you go to the range, you do that. That is not training you to do anything actually with your gun in any scenario whatsoever. That is the, that I would say that's, that's basic fam that you could really almost get in a classroom without doing live fire, right? I mean, you're really not getting very much out of that experience. You're not coming out of the draw. You're not learning to, you know, you're not practicing at speed, you're not practicing, you're not doing bill drills, you're not doing tactical reloads.
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Shermichael Singleton
Right?
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Buck Sexton
I mean, you and I sit here.
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Shermichael Singleton
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And so, and so, you know, when, when you start to add in these different pieces, I mean, for me, I like, I mean, I love pistol shooting. I mean, look, I've got my, I've got my AR here and I got some fun stuff all, you know, kitted up with it and whatever, but I like pistol shooting and I like pistol shooting based on the, you know, or rather focusing on the fundamentals and what are the situations in which I would actually have to use a firearm to defend myself? God forbid I ever do. But I want to be at a place where I know that if I had to, I'm trained. And that's kind of, that's my version of it. Yeah, that's my focus.
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Shermichael Singleton
I love that, bro. You want it to be reflexive. And again, I agree with you. Look, I say go to the range for the normal person to, to get used to the, the mechanical mechanism and operation of your firearm if it's on your nightstand or if you're carrying it.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, that's a step one for sure. You got it. You got to like load it, fire it, see what that's like. But that's step one.
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Shermichael Singleton
To your point though, Buck, you, you have to put yourself in scenarios, and that's why you have a lot of defensive pistol courses. You got to put yourself in a scenario to know how in the hell would I react if I'm stressed through the roof, if I'm not thinking right, if there's a lot going on around me, I, I gotta make sure I don't hit an innocent person. If you're being accosted. I mean, there's just so many things that goes into training. I highly recommend it. Uh, and, and this, you know, gets into your question. You asked, you know what, what I'm working on right now. So I just launched this new network called we the Free. Obviously, big second amendment guy. Love freedom, freedom of speech, you know, tied to my right to keep in. It's a firearm streaming platform. And we're looking at a couple different things. So we have our gun training, we have our firearms sort of interactive entertainment shows, we have action oriented reality shows, and then we also have conservative podcast and political commentary. Then we have a weekly gun news show that's strictly news about firearms only. And so I would highly recommend your audience to check us out. WTF tv? That's weed or free. And we're excited about this buck, because what I realized was one, there isn't really a singular place to go if you're a gun person to get highly made, curated content by gun people. For gun people, YouTube is constantly demonetizing. Guys. I had, you know, we have a channel on YouTube and we don't even do a lot of content on there anymore because we don't make any money on it. And a lot of the big channels, they struggle to make money on YouTube, Instagram, even though Zuckerberg has said that they're going to become friendlier. We haven't really seen that change. And I got to be honest, Buck, as much as I love the heck out of Elon Musk for, for what he's doing in his ingenuity, you know, X on occasion. And you even saw a couple of manufacturers, you know, have some complaints about this a couple months ago. They still have some provisions that they need to sort of perfect as it pertains to gun content and the monetization of gun content on X. So nevertheless, I sell that to say we decided why not build something for gun people and for conservatives, people who care about the second Amendment, who also care about the first Amendment, with a focus really on younger to middle aged men, because that is what we think will be our biggest demographic.
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Buck Sexton
When can I come and shoot with the WTF TV folks? Like, I mean, shoot guns while we shoot video. Like, when can we do this? You got to tell me.
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Shermichael Singleton
We'd love to film something with you. Whatever the hell you want.
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Buck Sexton
All righty. We got to set this up. This would be fun. All right, I got, I got a couple of quick, quick fire questions because we're at. We're at time, but a couple of quick fire questions. You only get one pistol for the rest of your life for the range and one pistol for the rest of your life. Well, one pistol for the zombie apocalypse. Like, this is the pistol you're going to have to use to defend yourself in every situation, every environment, whatever. What are your go tos right now?
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Shermichael Singleton
I am going to go with the Sand Viper by Taran. Love Taran. He's a good friend. I have the Sand Viper. I was gonna go with maybe the Staccato XL because I really, really love this Cardo xl. It's a beautiful pistol. But the Sand Viper, it just runs like a fine tuned machine.
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Buck Sexton
So that's your range. Sand Viper, Terran range gun. What is your zombie. What is your zombie apocalypse handgun? Like, this is the one that you.
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Shermichael Singleton
I'm. I'm absolutely freaking lutely bringing the Staccato xl. Absolutely. You're talking about what a four, A four and a half inch barrel length. So my great line of sight, huge oversized mag. Well, great.
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Buck Sexton
This is. This is funny because trigger grip.
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Shermichael Singleton
I believe so.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. It sounds, it sounds like we're like sponsored by Staccato. Maybe you are. I'm not. I'd love to be. I love Staccato because I was going to say for me, the range gun, no question. My staccato C2, I love that gun. I shoot that gun. Lights out. It's so fun. It's just like. And the problem is when I shoot that and then people like, hey, do you want to try my. I'm like, ew, no. That peasant tool. I don't think so, but I know it's a. People call it a rich man's gun. I'm like, look, it's expensive. It's a great gun. I love it. But for my zombie apocalypse, man, and I know people make fun of me and this is almost, it's almost like telling somebody I would have like a snub nose revolver, like a.38, you know, old school, like, like a detective in the 80s, I'd go, Glock 19, man. I just feel like I can, I can take that thing apart and put it together in the dark. I know it'll always. Yeah, I know what it feels like in my hands to me. It's like the, you know, it's the, it's the equivalent of having like a baseball bat with some nails through it. Like it's gonna get the job done. You know, you swing that thing, it's gonna get the job done.
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Shermichael Singleton
So, I mean, look, look, I can't, I, I can't disagree. And I, and I gotta add, you can always make some adjustments and updates to your Glock. You can update the trigger. You could put a different spring in, you could put in different barrels. You can put a SRO or whatever the hell other a dot you want to put. You can, you can put a mag oil on it. Also you can do some stippling so that the grip is more textured in your hand, which is something I personally prefer. So I actually wouldn't be opposed to a Glock.
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Buck Sexton
There we go.
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Shermichael Singleton
They make good guns.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. It's like I remember Tim Kennedy told my brother, my brother's like, yeah, I got a cold 1911. He's like, did. Did you get that with your walker? We were like, oh, damn. Oh, snap.
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Shermichael Singleton
Talk about shots fired.
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Buck Sexton
Good heaven. Shots fired. Like, we were like laughing at it. You know when you laugh and it hurts at the same time? I was like, damn, 1911, shot down. That was very funny from Tim Kennedy. Anyway, all right, man. Hey, Shermichael, guys, go, go look for him on cnn. Obviously follow him on Social, but go to WTF TV and maybe you'll see a buck and shermichael doing like the Keanu Reeves thing out at the Terran Tactical Range at some point, you know.
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Shermichael Singleton
Definitely going to make.
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Buck Sexton
Dude, let's do some two gun drills. I'll text You. It'll be fun. Great to see you, my friend. We'll talk soon, okay.
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Shermichael Singleton
Good to see you, Buck. Thanks for having me, man.
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Shermichael Singleton
And I'm Maria Konnikova. On our podcast Risky Business, we talk everything from politics to poker and from.
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Maria Konnikova
Betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. Sports bettors need a bit more street smarts because there's this whole second side to sports betting of how do you actually. How do you get your money down good if people think that you're a winning better. And now that March Madness is upon us, we're talking bracket strategies, odds, how to maybe actually win your office pool. You can listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Hey, Clay, if there was a summer camp for critical thinking, we'd be the chief counselors. Those jelly heads in June would be intellectual warriors by August. Be a lot of fun too. Some Bill and Ted's Ex adventure references thrown in this podcast like a daily dose of that, minus the campfires, archery and pranking the girls. The bona fide boot camp for critical thinking. You can get in on it for free at the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Just search our names Clay and Bach. Listen and subscribe.