Buck Brief - Are U.S. Troops Going to Fight in Iran?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Buck Brief – Are U.S. Troops Going to Fight in Iran?

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Date: March 18, 2026
Host: Buck Sexton
Guest: Savannah Jason (Bold PatriotBabe)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Buck Sexton welcomes conservative commentator and Gen Z influencer Savannah Jason to explore current U.S.-Iran tensions, the legacy of youth conservative activism, generational differences in news consumption, and cultural debates around education and family values. The conversation blends topical analysis (including concerns about U.S. troops being deployed to Iran) with broader reflections on how Gen Z interacts with politics, social media, and issues like homeschooling and patriotism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction to Savannah Jason and Her Background

• Savannah Jason describes her journey into conservative advocacy, emphasizing her rural, homeschooled, Christian upbringing in Kentucky ([03:46]).
• Became involved with Defender Gear, a patriotic clothing brand focused on teaching young Americans to value freedom and conservatism through both apparel and content creation.
• Quote:

  “Really, my background’s kind of unique. Nothing flashy at all… I’m just a homeschooler from Kentucky… My parents always instilled those values into me. The biggest thing they wanted… was the importance of how to think versus what to think…”
  — Savannah Jason ([03:46])

2. Homeschooling as an Alternative to Mainstream Education

• Buck shares personal considerations for his young child’s education, expressing skepticism about the traditional private and public school systems in urban areas ([04:47]).
• Savannah highlights the flexibility and customization possible with homeschooling, especially through co-ops that combine community with parental control over curriculum ([05:29]).
• Quote:

  “I honestly loved it... There’s so much opportunity parents have to actually instill the education that they want their kids to have… we found a really good, Christian conservative co-op where I was able to attend two days a week…”
  — Savannah Jason ([05:29])

3. Gen Z’s Role in Conservative Activism

• Savannah credits Charlie Kirk’s influence and Turning Point USA’s outreach for energizing Gen Z conservatives, encouraging young people to question prevailing narratives ([06:52]).
• Polling shows hope for a conservative shift within Gen Z, pushing back against stereotypes about young people’s liberal leanings.
• Buck: “I’m a gray beard millennial… Gen Z, you guys, actually, by the numbers, by polling, there’s some hope for conservatism for this country going forward.” ([06:01])
• Savannah:

  “Gen Z overall is on the uptick because of the impact [Charlie Kirk] made… he really did instill into us the importance of being told and going with what the media says, but actually questioning everything.” ([06:52])

4. Cultural Debates: Transgenderism and Media Propaganda

• Discussion on the rapid rise in campus activism and the “wokeness” trend, contrasted with what both cite as the small actual percentage of the population identifying as transgender ([08:40]).
• Both agree that colleges have become centers for progressive indoctrination, and note increased hostility toward dissenting views—especially conservative women like Riley Gaines ([07:43], [08:40]).
• Notable Quotes:

  “This didn’t really… even when I was in school… the trans issue was not an issue really at all… Now… there are threats of physical violence against women who go on campus to talk about women getting to only compete against women in sports…”
  — Buck Sexton ([07:43]) “Only 1.3% of the United States identify as transgender. But they want you to think it’s like half… and it’s not true.”
  — Savannah Jason ([08:40])

5. Trump, Iran, and Conservative Divisions

• Savannah praises Trump’s assertive approach to border security and law enforcement compared to the Biden administration, but acknowledges Gen Z conservatives are split on foreign policy—particularly the situation in Iran ([10:37]).
• Buck brings up Joe Kent’s resignation as National Counterterrorism Director amid allegations he disagreed with perceived U.S. policy positions on Israel.
• Concerns over infighting within the Right, fueled by social media echo chambers and quick spread of rumors ([12:18]).
• Notable Quotes:

  “He did promise us no forever wars, and I don’t think this is going to be one of those. It is ongoing. From what he’s been saying recently, it’s probably going to come to a close soon.”
  — Savannah Jason ([10:37]) “Things are getting a little messy out there… There’s more infighting among people on the right… than I’ve seen in a long time.”
  — Buck Sexton ([12:42])

6. The Question of U.S. Troops in Iran

• Buck addresses current media speculation about potential deployment of U.S. ground troops to Iran, but voices strong skepticism about its likelihood:

  “Are ground troops being used in Iran? I don’t see that happening. I would be shocked if that happened, but we’ll have to see.”
  — Buck Sexton ([12:42])

7. Media Consumption: Social vs. Traditional News

• Savannah notes Gen Z relies heavily on social media for information, making them highly susceptible to algorithm-driven narratives and viral outrage ([12:18]).
• Emphasis on the importance of conservative young voices on platforms like Instagram and X to counter mainstream trends and peer group pressures ([15:44]).

8. Personal Reflections: Family, Marriage, and Culture

• Lighthearted segment where Savannah shares her recent marriage and entrepreneurial roots ([14:03]).
• Buck offers personal advice on starting a family early, reflecting on his own fatherhood:

  “The best part of my day is just getting to crawl around on the ground with him… Highly recommend.”
  — Buck Sexton ([14:28])

9. Promoting Conservative Literature

• Savannah endorses Buck’s book, Manufacturing Delusion, as a resource for understanding mass hysteria and media manipulation during events like COVID-19 ([17:06]).
• Buck encourages younger audiences to engage with deeper long-form content, not just quick social media takes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Gen Z and social media:

  “We don’t really just listen to the news. They go fully to social media. The algorithm is fully influencing Gen Z and how they think and what they believe now more than ever.”
  — Savannah Jason ([12:18])

• On patriotism’s changing status:

  “The whole coolness thing has shifted… I think people are seeing that more and more... loving families, loving God, these things are actually the coolest.”
  — Buck Sexton ([15:44])

• On family and values:

  “There’s only so much that a guy… in his 40s… can do. Getting young women, no, they want to hear from their peers, and I understand that… You can be an important voice in that process.”
  — Buck Sexton ([15:44])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:15] – Introduction of Savannah Jason and her conservative activism origin story
• [04:47] – Homeschooling, educational choices, and co-ops
• [06:01] – Gen Z and conservative polling; influence of Charlie Kirk
• [07:43] – College propaganda, transgenderism, and activism on campus
• [10:37] – Gen Z perspectives on Trump, Iran, and border security
• [12:18] – The Joe Kent resignation and conservative infighting; social media’s impact
• [12:42] – Addressing the rumors about U.S. ground troops in Iran
• [14:03] – Personal details: Savannah’s recent marriage and entrepreneurial family
• [15:44] – The importance of young conservative voices and changing cultural “coolness”
• [17:06] – Savannah’s endorsement of Manufacturing Delusion

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Conclusion

The episode weaves together foreign policy concerns—especially U.S.-Iran tensions and the prospect of military engagement—with a generational reflection on how conservatism, media, education, and family values are evolving. The show’s tone remains conversational and optimistic, highlighting the potential for young conservatives to shape the cultural and political landscape through both activism and authentic sharing of personal values.

Follow Savannah Jason at @BoldPatriotBabe and check out Buck Sexton’s latest book for further insights.

Transcript

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It does seem to me that there is some awakening of a desire to act together to solve problems where they are. You know, I am a believer in America and it's worth fighting for.

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Welcome in everybody. Savannah Jason joins us now, known as Bold PatriotBabe on the Instagram and X and all the other places where she is putting up her commentary. Savannah, welcome to the podcast. Appreciate you being here. And tell me, how did you get into this? I always find this is before we talk about the news of the day, maybe talk some Iran stuff, the legacy of Charlie Kirk, Gen Z, where they're standing on all this. Tell me about how you did this, how you got into it.

[Savannah Jason]

Yeah, absolutely. Well, thanks again for having me on. Really. My background's kind of unique. Nothing flashy at all. When people ask, what's your background? I'm like, really? I'm just a homeschooler from Kentucky. Nothing big. I actually grew up in a Christian conservative household. My parents always instilled those values into me. The biggest thing they wanted to make sure me and my brother knew was the importance of how to think versus what to think in a society that's pushing that at such a high degree. And they actually know the founder of the company that I'm now partnered with and I'm an ambassador for. His name is Joe Marwitz. He started Defender Gear. It is a patriotic clothing brand. They both have clothing, but they also stand for the mission of wanting to teach the next generation to appreciate America, to appreciate our values and our freedoms, and to pass on the passion for conservatism to the next generation. And at the time he just needed a model. So I actually ended up passing that and I was excited to really just be able to embody what I stood for from a clothing perspective, which ended up leading to further opportunities. And now I do a lot of his content creation and do a lot of speaking for Gen Z. Oh, that's very, very cool.

[Buck Sexton]

Um, I have to say I always like to hear that people kind of just got, got into things because it aligned with their values and, and their beliefs. Question about, about the homeschooling, if I can before. I'm just so curious about this. I have a little 11 month old boy and, and everyone's already talking my ear off. I live in, I live in Miami, Miami beach. And everyone's always talking my ear off about the schools and like how he's got to get in. And I'm, I look at them and I don't really get into this with people around here, but I kind of want to say, I don't know, I think I might want to figure out my own thing for, for my son here. And I, by the way, I went to what would be considered, I think fancy schools growing up and for college and stuff. And I don't think it's all that it's cracked up to be. I don't know. Talk to me about the homeschooling thing a little bit.

[Savannah Jason]

I honestly loved it. I feel like everybody kind of has that stereotype of homeschoolers of, wow, they don't know how to like socialize or really talk to people. But that's not true. I mean, I feel like there's so much opportunities parents have to be actually like instill the education that they want their kids to have. 100%, they're in control of it. But it was kind of cool. I got, I got two different, different aspects of it. So I was homeschooled, but I went to a co op. We found a really good, like Christian conservative co op there in Kentucky where I was able to attend two days a week. But my parents got to choose the classes that I took and all the other classes they didn't want taught there, they taught me at home. So it's a pretty neat opportunity.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, that sounds really cool to me. I think that increasingly, I mean, I know this for sure. I have family in New York City and the New York City public school system is incredibly bloated and wasteful and ineffective and bad. And so then you have to go to a private school which is wildly expensive now in places like New York City. I just, we need to figure out better options. And to me, homeschooling, getting a pod together or a co op, as you said, these These things also make a lot of sense. All right, you're very fired up about Gen Z keeping the mission of Charlie Kirk going and being passionate conservatives. What are you seeing on the front lines of Gen Z? I mean, I'm an old millennial. Got some gray in my beard here. I'm a gray beard millennial. But Gen Z, you guys, actually, by the numbers, by polling, there's some hope for conservatism for this country going forward.

[Savannah Jason]

Yeah, no, there's definitely lots of hope for conservatism. And I really do think it started with Charlie Kirk. I didn't know who he even was, honestly, until 2021. He actually came to speak at UK's campus there in Kentucky and a friend invited me out. It was during his gen free tour. And he was encouraging my generation that, hey, even though you're young, you have a voice. And I never heard anybody say that before because I always knew I was young. But I was like, what impact can I actually make? Or what can I really do for our country? Even if it is on a small scale. That was the first time I heard of him. But since then, since he started getting really popular in 2020, 2021 timeframe, you've seen him do progressively a lot. I mean, Trump getting in office, I feel like was a big part due to his impact with Gen Z. So I feel like Gen Z overall is on the uptick because of the impact he made and because he really did instill into us the importance being told and going with what the media says. But actually questioning everything.

[Buck Sexton]

No, it's a super important lesson for, for especially, I think kids in college these days that they are being indoctrinated and there's a lot of propaganda that they consume just as part of their course load, as part of the culture on campus. And you know, I actually just wrote a book about dealing with some of this stuff with the mind control tactics out there and transgenderism, for example. This didn't really, even when I was in school, which I will tell you, was like 20 something years ago now when I was in. On college campus, the trans issue was not an issue really at all. You really didn't hear about it. And in recent years, I know it's become so big that friends of mine like Riley Gaines, who go on camp and who I know also did turning point events would go on campus to talk about it. They had to. They had. Well, obviously Charlie was assassinated, but there are threats of physical violence against women who go on campus to talk about women getting to only compete against women in sports. Like that's how powerful the propaganda is.

[Savannah Jason]

Yeah, no, it's really, it's really powerful, really popular and like you said, I was actually going to ask you about that because really I don't know if it's because I was a homeschooler. I'm like I really didn't even hear the word transgenderism until 2021, 2022. That's when it became like, I don't know, popular to be woke I guess you can say. But prior to that I feel like I never heard about it and society today might want it to look like that. There's so many more people that identify as woke or so many more people that identify under the transgender is a movement than there actually is. Like I looked up a stat recently. Only 1.3 of the United States people in the United States identify as transgender. But they want you to think it's like half of the United States and it's not true.

[Buck Sexton]

It's a very small and even I think that 1.3 is probably, probably, probably smaller than that. Yeah, I think so. It's people who are non binary and it's the some of just people who want it has nothing to do with like even having the belief of transgenderism. But our sponsor for, for this segment by the way is Birch Gold Group. For those of us who have purchased gold in previous years in investment feeling pretty smart right now. Gold was up 65% last year. If you're saying well buck, that's just one year, well gold is up over 700% over the last 20 years. So forward thinking Americans have been for a long time now successfully diversifying a portion of their savings into precious metals like gold. And Birch Gold Group is who I trust that's who can help you get this done too. See if holding gold in a tax sheltered retirement account is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k to an IRA in gold. Just text my name. Buck to 989898 Receive your free info kit on gold. No obligation, just useful information. Text Buck to 989898 Text Buck to 989898 how are you feeling about Trump at this stage of the game? A lot of people are starting to at least chirp a little complaining online about the situation in Iran. Where are you on this? Where would you say your peers are your fellow Gen Z conservatives?

[Savannah Jason]

I feel like Gen Z as a whole, especially like the circles I run in, kind of like you said you're hearing mixed things. Some people are extremely excited about everything that's going on. Other people are skeptical and questioning things. It's one of those. I can definitely see both perspectives. I'm very happy about the border security because we saw the millions and millions of undocumented illegal immigrants that came in under the Biden administration, and that's caused a lot of concerns for safety for a lot of people and a lot of families in everyday life. So I love how seriously he is taking that when it's come to border security, when it's come just to overall safety of our cities and being, you know, more considerate about all the crime and stuff that's going on. He's done a number for that that Biden never could have even touched. So I'm very, very happy about that. I know Gen Z does have a lot of concern, just about as far as the war goes, but, you know, he did promise us no forever wars, and I don't think this is going to be one of those. It is ongoing. From what he's been saying recently, it's probably going to come to a close soon.

[Buck Sexton]

Do you have any particular feelings about Joe Kent resigning as National Counterterrorism Director? You see that letter he put out? He was saying, this is because basically Trump is bending the knee to Israel. I was a little surprised that I know Joe a little bit. I've interviewed him a few times. Special Forces vet, Impressive guy. Impressive career loss. His wife, she died. She was killed in action in Syria, serving there alongside special operations. And now I'm just. I'm seeing all these people come out to say kind of trash him, saying that he was a leaker and that he was leaking, classified even, and all this stuff. And I'm like, guys, I feel like we need to be able to have policy discussions without the politics of personal destruction happening. On the right. I'm a little surprised by all this thing. Things are getting a little messy out there. Savannah, on the right. People are getting a little nasty.

[Savannah Jason]

Yeah, a little bit. And I feel like a lot of that does have to do with social media, because I've noticed with my generation especially, we don't really just listen to the news. Like not many people in my generation, I feel like nowadays sit down and listen to the news. They go fully to social media. Like the algorithm is fully influencing Gen Z and how they think and what they believe now more than ever. So as soon as you see, like one little controversial thing, they're gonna take that and run with it.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, it seems like people. There's more infighting among people on the right, among conservatives, than I've seen in a long time. There's even saying some pretty crazy stuff about each other publicly, which I won't get into here, but there's a lot of this happening. Meanwhile, Trump, it feels like he's very. He feels very on mission with all of this. He's saying, this is maga. This is necessary for the country. It's making us all safer. You know, I think a lot more will be known about this in the days ahead. Right now, as I talk to you, there's reporting out there that there's all this concern about ground troops being used in Iran. Are ground troops being used in Iran? I don't. I don't see that happening. I would be shocked if that happened, but we'll have to see. Our sponsor is PureTalk. You know, your cell phone service is not a forever. Cell phone service deal is not forever. If you're not happy with your wireless provider, if you pay too much every month, consider switching your service to PureTalk. You'll be saving hundreds of dollars a year without sacrificing any quality. For 25 bucks a month, PureTalk gives you unlimited talk, text, and plenty of data to work with. PureTalk's customer service is the best, and their cellular service is on the best nationwide 5G network. No contract, no cancellation fees with PureTalk. I've used them for years. Save 50% on your first month when you go to PureTalk.com buck. That's PureTalk.com buck. America's wireless company. Savannah, are you married? You got kids? What's the situation?

[Savannah Jason]

Actually, just got married in December, so. Yeah, just got married. Very freshly married. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Congratulations. That's so cool.

[Savannah Jason]

Thank you.

[Buck Sexton]

So cool. That is. That is great. How'd you and your husband meet?

[Savannah Jason]

We actually met through this business arena we're in outside of our traditional job. So my parents are entrepreneurs. They're in the E commerce space. And my dad was actually his coach and mentor in business and introduced us. So started off by being friends for a few years, ended up to developing more. So here we are now.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, that's fantastic. Congratulations. I've been married a few years myself. I got a little baby. I'm just gonna. I'm sure everyone's telling you this, don't wait too long to start having the kids. On the earlier side, you know, unsolicited advice, but I'm just telling you, you're a young lady, but like this. I have so many friends who put off having the kids until they're in their, like mid-30s, they've been married five years. You know, I'm like, yeah, not gonna do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. That's. You want to have the kid? The baby is so fun. Honestly, like, I'm. As soon as I'm done here with you on the podcast, I'm going to hang out with my. I want to say one year old. He's technically 11 month old, but he's like, absolutely. The best part of my day is just getting to crawl around to the ground with him. And we play like with blocks and stuff and it's really fantastic. So highly recommend. So we. Sorry, we cover a lot here. We go from like Iran homeschooling to Iran to playing blocks with the babies. You know, all these things. Very, very good. By the. Did you ever get involved in Turning Point stuff yourself or do you just appreciate the work they were doing?

[Savannah Jason]

I just appreciate the work they were doing. I really like. I followed Charlie with all he did for years and watched a lot of his things. I never personally was involved in a chapter. I know people who are and you know, they love being able to carry on his legacy in that manner. But I never personally was. I've just been using social media as the platform to really use my voice.

[Buck Sexton]

We need, we need more Gen Z like you though, to come out and get on social media. And you know, people, look, there's only so much that a guy. I'm in my 40s, right? A guy in his 40s, it's. It young men, I think it's easier but like, you know, getting young women, no, they want to hear from their peers and I, I understand that. I get it, I respect it. So please encourage more like you to get out there. I mean, I just saw your content and that's. I was like, you know what? I think, I think she's got something to say people should, should hear. And I think that we need those voices because what we don't want is what I. When I grew up, if you were cool, you were, you know, when I was growing up, I should say in, in things like Twitter in the early days even, it's like if you were cool, you were liberal, you were Democrat, right? And that was just the expectation among all these people. And I was this weirdo. I was like this, you know, this, this freak that was like, I kind of like America and like capitalism and right? And it's like, this is not a less. Not cool at all. Now actually, the whole coolness thing has, has shifted has changed and I think a lot of people recognize that patriotism, that traditional values, that loving families, loving God, these things are actually the coolest. You know, I know that that would have been mocked not long ago by our culture, but I think people are seeing that more and more. So you can be an important voice in that process. And Savannah, appreciate you making the time today. Where should people go to follow your content and check out what you're up to?

[Savannah Jason]

Follow me@ Bold PatriotBay. But I also wanna put a little bit of plugin for your book. I've been reading Manufacturing Delusion recently. I'm only the beginning of it, but I wish I had that back. I wish I had a book like that back in 2020 when all the mass hysteria was going on with COVID and everything. As I'm reading through it, I'm like, wow, you're literally seeing. Right there. Yep, right there.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you. Would you do.

[Savannah Jason]

Seeing how social pressure.

[Buck Sexton]

Would you tell some of your Gen Z content creators and friends to get the book too? And, and you know.

[Savannah Jason]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

Spread the word among. I got a lot of people in their 40s, 50s and 60s read the book. I could use some people in their 20s reading it. So get them to check out manufacturing.

[Savannah Jason]

Absolutely. I'm going to endorse it. I'm going to tell my following because it's, it's very insightful and everybody know about him.

[Buck Sexton]

Please do. Please do. Savannah, great to see you. Thanks so much.

[Savannah Jason]

Thanks so much. Have a good one.

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