Buck Brief - Crockett Calls Out the Wrong Epstein

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Buck Brief – Crockett Calls Out the Wrong Epstein

Date: November 21, 2025
Host: Buck Sexton
Guest: Matthew Marsden
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Main Theme

This episode of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" centers on a recent political blunder by Rep. Jasmine Crockett, who wrongly accused several prominent Republicans of accepting money from Jeffrey Epstein—mistaking an unrelated individual for the infamous financier. The discussion expands to themes of name infamy, political performance, cultural impact of movies, and Hollywood’s challenges, all delivered in an upbeat, conversational style with humor and candid opinions.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Rep. Jasmine Crockett’s Epstein Error

(05:17–07:04)

• Incident Recap: Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) publicly accused several Republicans of taking money from “Jeffrey Epstein” (the notorious sex offender), but it turned out to be a different individual with the same name.
• Crockett’s Response: Even after the error, Crockett doubled down instead of admitting a simple mistake, defending her team for “googling” FEC data in real time and insisting, “I never said it was that Jeffrey Epstein.”
• Marsden and Buck’s Take: The hosts riff on both the absurdity and the arrogance of doubling down, with Marsden’s guest saying, “She’s dumber than a box of rocks, that woman. And the arrogance.” (07:04)

Jasmine Crockett (05:56):
“Listen, I never said that it was that Jeffrey Epstein. Just so that people understand when you make a donation, your picture is not there. … I wanted the Republicans to think about what could potentially happen because I knew that they didn’t even try to go through the FEC. So my team, what they did is they googled and that is specifically why I said a Jeffrey Epstein.”

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2. The Burden of Infamous Names

(07:47–12:27)

• Life as “Jeffrey Epstein”: The hosts humorously explore how it might feel to have the misfortune of sharing a name with someone infamous, including implications for Jews with the Epstein surname and thoughts about whether anyone still has the name Hitler.
• Name Changes: What would prompt people to change names, and are there “Adolfs” or “Jeff Dahmers” trying to reclaim those names?
• Pop Culture Sidebar: Quick jokes about The Omen (“The Almond” as pronounced by Marsden’s guest), and the popularity of names like Damien and Jesus in different cultures.

Buck Sexton (09:00):
“Does anyone have the last name Hitler anymore? … I come from 15 generations of Hitler, and it wasn’t that Hitler.”

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3. Jasmine Crockett’s Political Persona

(12:27–12:48)

• Character Analysis: Marsden’s guest claims Crockett’s “ghetto attitude” is a performance for political purposes, recalling her prior campaigns as “very respectful, very softly spoken, very smart.”
• Senate Bid: Speculation if she’ll try to run for Senate in Texas.

Marsden’s Guest (12:48):
“As an actor, it’s kind of quite impressive.”

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4. Modern Movie Malaise and Cultural Impact

(14:31–20:12)

• Hollywood Decline: Discussion on Hollywood’s lack of innovation, fewer major theatrical releases, and industry focus on “woke” agendas over quality storytelling.
• Hope for Change: Marsden calls for conservatives and non-liberal billionaires to invest in films without a political agenda, highlighting the generational cultural power of classic films like “It’s a Wonderful Life.”
• Netflix and Apple: Both hosts lament Netflix’s “woke trash” (20:12), but praise certain films for sticking to good storytelling.

Marsden’s Guest (15:04):
“If you just keep the politics and the agenda out of the material, people will go and see it … movies are the American art form, Buck, and we can’t abandon them.”

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5. Movie Recommendations

(21:53–22:41)

• The Outfit: Marsden recommends “The Outfit,” a film about a tailor in Chicago.
• The Little Things: Also considers “The Little Things” with Denzel Washington, though he notes it “went a little bit mushy.”
• General Denzel Praise: “Anything with Denzel Washington in is really good. So it’s worth a watch.” (22:41)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Crockett’s Mistake:

  Marsden’s Guest (07:04):
  “She’s dumber than a box of rocks, that woman. I mean, and the arrogance. … All she had to do was say, listen, we messed up. But she’s like, no, my stuff has went. And what do you expect after 20 minutes?”

• On Having a Doomed Name:

  Buck Sexton (09:00):
  “Does anyone have the last name Hitler anymore? … You wake up one day and you read the newspaper and you go, oh, I’m not the only Jeff Dahmer out there.”

• On Hollywood’s Direction:

  Marsden’s Guest (15:04):
  “I got a couple of offers recently for something and I couldn’t do it morally. And I’m like, why are you still pushing these agendas?”

• On Movies and Culture:

  Marsden’s Guest (17:58):
  “Movies actually define the way culture kind of sees the world.”

• On Netflix:

  Buck Sexton (20:12):
  “Yeah, Netflix just turns out, woke trash day in and day out. It’s very frustrating, especially on the series and stuff.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [05:17]–[07:04]: Crockett’s Epstein mistake and her explanation
• [07:47]–[12:27]: Burden of infamous names, name-change dilemmas, cultural observations
• [12:27]–[12:48]: Jasmine Crockett’s persona and Senate speculation
• [14:31]–[20:12]: Modern movies, Hollywood’s decline, conservative opportunities
• [21:53]–[22:41]: Movie picks and recommendations

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Style and Tone

The conversation is energetic, humorous, and off-the-cuff, punctuated by jabs at political figures, pop culture references, and movie nerdery. Both hosts maintain a friendly, ribbing tone, even (especially) when lamenting the “woke” state of Hollywood and the political class’s gaffes.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode delivers a lively take on a recent political face-palm, exploring the perils of public mistakes, the weight of notorious names, and the challenges and cultural importance of Hollywood storytelling. With laughs, honest critiques, and movie recommendations, Buck and Marsden keep it relatable and sharp for listeners keen on politics and pop culture alike.

Transcript

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Get your podcasts back by popular demand here on the Buck Brief. Our friend Matthew Marsden. He is the host of the Matthew Marsden show, which is fantastic. He's also an actor. He was in that Rambo movie. He's got a poster of it behind him there, among many other movies, Black Hawk down and other great things. Now he's a Texan and he's got like 15 kids or something. How many kids do you have? A lot of kids.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

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[Matthew Marsden]

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[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

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[Matthew Marsden]

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[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

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[Matthew Marsden]

So can I tell you my favorite news story of the week? I don't know if you've seen this or not, but I'll just tell you about it. So do you see the clip of Jasmine Crockett, member of Congress from your state, buddy? All right, this is your state who gets up there and starts reading off names of Republicans that got money from, from Jeffrey Epstein, only to find out after she has publicly done this that it's a different Jeffrey Epstein. It has nothing to do with the, you know, evil, evil trafficking, child trafficking pedophile. And then she doubled down, you know, afterwards she's like, I didn't say it was that Jeffrey Epstein. I think she's kind of amazing, honestly. I think she is a great thing.

[Jasmine Crockett]

For America, folks who also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein. As I had my team dig in very quickly. Mitt Romney, the NRCC, Lee Zeldin, George Bush win. Read McCain, Palin, Rick Lazio. I just want to be clear. If this is the standard that we gonna make, just know we gonna expose it all and just know that the FEC filings, they are available for everybody to review. This is absolutely ridiculous. Do you want to correct the record on the people? Listen, I never said that it was that Jeffrey Epstein. Just so that people understand when you make a donation, your picture is not there. And, and because they decided to spring this on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans to think about what could potentially happen because I knew that they didn't even try to go through the fec. So my team, what they did is they googled and that is specifically why I said a Jeffrey Epstein. Unlike Republicans, I at least don't go out and just tell lies because it was not the same one. That's fine. But when Lee Zeldin had something to say, all he had to say was it was a different Jeffrey Epstein.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Well, yeah, I mean, Charlamagne, I'm not going to call him his full name, but Charlamagne thinks that he's the future of the Democratic Party. I'm like, bring it on, dude. She's dumber than a box of rocks, that woman. I mean, and the arrogance. I mean, do you saw the. What's name? Caitlin Clark, is it on cnn? She was just sitting there looking at her like that Like, I can't get you out of this mess. You know, you just doubling that. All she had to do was say, listen, we messed up. But she's like, no, my stuff has went. And what do you expect after 20 minutes? I'm like, you just don't talk about it. You know what I mean? Like, you just, just don't say anything. But I will say this book as well. What it made me think of is imagine if your name is Jeffrey Epstein.

[Matthew Marsden]

I mean, I've been thinking about this.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Too, by the way.

[Matthew Marsden]

There's a lot. I bet there's a bunch of. Because Epstein is a pretty common name for Jewish Americans. It's. I have a friend who's a woman who married a guy, so she has a hyphenated Epstein name. So, like, there's a lot of Epstein's running around. I mean, I think there are plenty of people especially who have had like a doctor or a dentist named Dr. Epstein.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Yeah, I had a friend of mine who. He's. He was from the Zambonis. He's a Zamboni, but his name isn't Zamboni. And he was like. And he's a doctor. He's an EI doctor. And he's like, I'm thinking about changing my name to Zamboni. I'm like, do you really want to go through that every single time you meet someone in the ER. Dr. Zamboni. Ah, Zamboni.

[Matthew Marsden]

No, wait, is that like the iceman? He's like the ice machine guy. The ice clearing machine.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Yeah, the ice cleaner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you wouldn't want that, would you? But you certainly wouldn't want to be like Jeffrey Epstein. And how'd you get. How'd you get around that? Like, if you give your last name, you're going to be Jay Epstein is just as bad. Do you call yourself Jeff or Jay? I mean, what do you do with that?

[Matthew Marsden]

I don't even want to do this on. On. On Grok or whatever, but I'm kind of curious. Like, it. Doesn't it make you think, are there. Does anyone have the last name Hitler anymore? You know what I mean? Is there anyone alive with the last name Hitler still? Like, is there someone who's like, look, I come from 15 generations of Hitler, and it wasn't that Hitler. And I'm a. You know what I'm saying? Like, is that name just dead forever now?

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Well, I think I was actually saying this the other day. It's like, do you remember when the first Omen movie came out, when the first Omen movie came out, nobody was like, do not call your son Damian. Like, you can't call your son the son of the.

[Matthew Marsden]

Oh, the Omen. You say it. You say it funny British man. The Omen. Yeah, the Omen.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

The almond.

[Matthew Marsden]

The almond. It sounds like you're talking about the little nut that people eat, but yes, the almond.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Have you seen the movie the Almond? It's fantastic.

[Matthew Marsden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Bit nuts.

[Matthew Marsden]

You can make milk of it, apparently. Hey, that just. That just. I didn't know that was gonna happen. I'm in almonds. You can make milk out of almonds? But. Yes.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

So the.

[Matthew Marsden]

Where were we?

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

You just.

[Matthew Marsden]

You just threw me off here with this.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Yeah, I grew up.

[Matthew Marsden]

I grew up with. I knew a kid named. Not grew up with. Like, I knew a kid growing up named Damien. I think that there's. People still have that name, although it's a lot less. A lot less than you would think. And it's interesting because I feel like in English, you'll never come across someone whose name is Jesus, but in Latin America, Jesus all over the place.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Yeah, it's a kind of. It's a weird phenomenon, isn't it?

[Matthew Marsden]

Yeah. I do think that name change makes sense for some people when something like this, like, I think that if your name was, let's say you're a guy in the Midwest, you know, and you're just doing your thing, you know, you. You run the local hardware store and you're a salt of the earth kind of guy, and you wake up one day and you read the newspaper and you go, oh, I'm not the only Jeff Dahmer out there. Like, I think that maybe, you know, maybe you decide, I'm going to mix it up. I'm going to go with my mate, my mom's maiden name or something.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

You got to, haven't you? I mean, you can't stay with that name. It would be interesting to see if. If anyone turned around and they said, no, listen, I'm proud of my dad's name, Hitler, and.

[Matthew Marsden]

Because that's a tough one.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

You know what I mean? Because he's got to have cousins or.

[Matthew Marsden]

So here's the thing. I think if you're Swedish, you can get away with Adolphus, which is spelled very much like, I think there are Adolphuses walking around, which is basically Adolf within us. I don't know. Are there any other. Is the name Adolf, perpetually retired now? Like, can you not name your kid? I'm sure people are Googling right now. There probably are Adolfs. Walking around and they're just like, I'm, I'm taking this name back from the, from the bad guy.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Yeah. And I mean, what is the time period, you know, when does it become okay?

[Matthew Marsden]

Although I have to say, I think, I think, I think Jeffrey Epstein is one of the toughest ones now. You know what I mean? Like, that's not quite Adolf Hitler level, but I mean, Jeffrey Epstein is, that's a tough, that's a tough name to handle. So anyway, yeah, that, that was the congresswoman from, from your state. Do you think she's gonna run for Senate, by the way? Are you hearing that from your people in Texas?

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Please, please. I hope she does. I hope she does. And you know that the whole demeanor is a complete act. Right. You've seen her when she was running. Initially, she was very respectful, very softly spoken, very smart. Unless she's like kind of adopted this weird kind of ghetto attitude Persona.

[Matthew Marsden]

Yes.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

As an actor, it's kind of quite impressive.

[Matthew Marsden]

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[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Well, I mean, hopefully conservatives will get in there and start investing in movies. I mean, there was one recently. I don't know if you've seen Frankenstein. Have you seen that?

[Matthew Marsden]

It's a, it's, it's good.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

It's a good.

[Matthew Marsden]

Well, I'm a big Guillermo del Toro fan in general, so I was willing. And the fact that it stayed pretty true to the original novel, unlike the other movie with like the, you know, the bolts in the neck and, you know, the guy who's trying to think Frankenstein. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So you thought, you agree that you liked the Frankenstein movie?

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Oh, I thought it was great. But I think that they made a mistake and Netflix didn't put it out. I mean, they did a limited release for the Oscars, for Oscars, Oscar consideration, but they didn't. I think that that would have had legs if they would have put it out, because it's a really fantastically made film. And I would have gone to see, to see at the cinema, but I really, really enjoyed it. And I think that it's one of those things where if you just keep the politics and the agenda out of the material, people will go and see it. So it'd be interesting to see the numbers on Netflix, like what they did with that film, because it's got to be the biggest movie that they've done in quite some time. But look, the movies are the American art form, Buck, and we can't abandon them. And what has happened, I think, is that what the left has done, mainly because it's been funded by the big theme parks and other things that are ancillary to actually making money on the films, is they've just said, listen, we're going to push this agenda. We're going to pump this stuff out there, doesn't matter whether it makes money, but we're going to affect the culture and change the culture by normalizing certain kinds of behavior and being very anti American. And they're still doing it, I can tell you. I got a couple of offers recently for something and I couldn't do it morally. And I'm like, why are you still pushing these agendas? But the alternative is we don't have anything on our side that we're putting out, that we have billionaires that could turn around and say, go make this movie. I'M not looking at a return on investment right now in cash, but I'll give you a generational investment that we'll see later on down the line. Like if you imagine, can you imagine a world without It's a Wonderful Life? And that didn't have a good return on investment financially initially and that had one of the biggest actors in the world and one of the biggest directors in the world. But it's influenced us for generations and we really need to start thinking like that.

[Matthew Marsden]

But to me it's, it seems like these play like Apple Studios did the F1 movie, which I heard people say was actually pretty good. I didn't see it there. There are places that have the, the budgets and the capability to make the great movies that we all grew up with and we're seeing. But it's just, are the economics of it so different now? Because I feel like my kid's 6 months old now and by the time he's grown up enough that we can watch movies together, we're, I'm going to be introducing him to movies almost the way that people show like historical artifacts like hey man, yeah, let's watch movies from the 90s. Let's watch black Hawk down. That came out in what, 98 or 2000. Like that's going to be. Yeah, 2001. I mean by the time my kid's old enough that that's going to be 30 something, 40 something years old.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Yeah, no, I mean it's, it's really concerning because like I said, movies are the American art form. And the other thing is, is movies actually define the way culture kind of sees the world. So by the time that your son's like 18 years old, people won't be necessarily going and diving deep in the books like we were. Because if you think about it like we're the, I mean certainly for me, Gen X, we're the last kind of generation that is pre Internet and pre woke. And so if you, if you think now like Black hawk Down is 25 years old, I mean that is unbelievable to me. It's quarter of a century old. So again, if you add that again, it's going to be like by the time your son can watch it, 18, 19, 20, it's going to be pushing half a century old and it's going to be like us. I saw something the other day that when Raiders of the Lost Ark came out, it was talking about the 1930s and it's equivalent of us looking back to Black Hawk down right now pretty much like it's it's, you know, 30, 40, 50s. We've, we're not producing anything right now that is particularly engaging. When good stuff comes out, people gravitate towards it. And we're missing a massive opportunity on our side because all you've got to do is make good films. And you referenced the F1 movie. That was Kaczynski. He's a terrific filmmaker and everyone wants to work with him so he can get things green lit. And that's the economics of it. Because Apple will look and they'll say, okay, well, he did. Kaczynski did Edge of Tomorrow. I've watched that a thousand times. And it's a great film. So he makes really good movies, so they'll bet on him. But the majority of directors and the majority of actors are liberal. So when they're looking at the finances on it saying, am I going to get a return on investment? They have to go and get names. And all those names are liberal. So those, those liberal actors and directors will make the movies that they want to make, which in turn are for the most part, liberal. Yeah. So we don't have a seat at the table.

[Matthew Marsden]

It's. I still. This is a huge hole and there's. There should be opportunities here that could be taken for, I don't know. I mean, I said a long time ago, we need a billionaire who's just trying to save free speech to buy one of these platforms. And then Elon bought X. We need somebody who wants to create great content that Americans and the whole world can love again. And that. I think it might just be somebody who's willing to write the check. Because right now. Yeah, Netflix. Netflix just turns out, woke trash day in and day out. It's very frustrating, especially on the series and stuff. But hold on. Our sponsor is Preborn. You know, there's not another prophet that does more to save the lives of unborn children than preborn. And preborn is doing this day in and day out. There's so many Planned Parenthood clinics and so many people that are being pushed toward that, and that can never be taken back if that choice for abortion is made. Preborn welcomes pregnant moms into their clinics and says, hey, let's try something else for you. Let's introduce you to your baby via an ultrasound. That ultrasound costs just $28. And after the mom has that ultrasound, the chance that she will choose life for that life for that baby is higher dramatically. And so many lives are saved in this way. So please help sponsor an ultrasound for one of these women. Pick up your phone, dial pound250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound250. Say baby or donate [e-mail] Buck preborn.com Buck Sponsored by Preborn Is there anything else that I should go and see and watch? You said Frankenstein is good. I agree with you on that one. That's actually a movie, a rare movie that people should take the time to go and see. Anything else that you can give us? Any wrecks for the weekend?

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Yeah, I watched a movie that's pretty old. I say pretty old is a few years old called the Outfit and I.

[Matthew Marsden]

Really enjoyed it about the Taylor in Chicago. Yeah, I saw that. It was good. That was good.

[Matthew Marsden's Guest]

Yeah, I really enjoyed it. By the way, my math was off. It's the equivalent I was saying now if we're looking Back to the 80s, by the way, what the equivalent of when Raiders was came out to when it was depicting the area that is depicting. But yeah, I watched a movie yesterday called the Little Things with Denzel Washington and started off really, really well and just kind of like went a little bit mushy. But I think that, you know, anything with Denzel Washington in is really good. So it's worth a watch.

[Matthew Marsden]

All right man, thank you so much for joining and talk to you guys all next week. Shields High how do I do it.

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