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Buck Brief - Does Trump Really Want to Make Canada Great Again? with Kevin Sorbo
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Buck Sexton
Hey Clay. If there was a summer camp for critical thinking, we'd be the chief counselors. Those jelly heads in June would be intellectual warriors by August. Be a lot of fun too. Some Bill and Ted's excellent adventure references thrown in this podcast like a daily dose of that minor us. The campfires, archery and pranking the girls. The bonafide boot camp for critical thinking. You can get in on it for free at the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Just search our names. Clay and Buck Listen and subscribe.
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Kevin Sorbo
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Buck Sexton
Kevin Sorbo joins us now. You all know him as a filmmaker, an actor, a director, Hercules A Legendary Journeys, which was a great show and so many other movies and projects he's been involved in. Kevin, really good to see you, man. How are you doing?
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Clay Travis
Doing great. You caught me. It's a busy day for me here. I just, I. This is the only hour slot I had to work out, so I'm so sweaty. I just finished working out because, you know, you got. What's that governor from Illinois, J.B. pritzker?
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Buck Sexton
Yes, he is not fighting back on RFK's health policies.
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Clay Travis
And I just want to look as healthy as JB looks. You know, that's what I'm kind of shooting for right now. So feel to post a picture up on that guy. What a physical specimen that dude is.
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Buck Sexton
I'm. I'm a little surprised. I mean, there's so many things that he could do if he. Especially as he's talking about running for president, that he should do, and. And it does. To be. To be at his level of. Of. Of weight actually really does affect your health. You know, I was going to ask you about the Doge stuff, but let me start actually with the RFK Jr stuff. What? What? Because you're into Maha, make America healthy again. What?
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
What. What's top of the agenda as far as you're concerned for RFK to get going with.
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Clay Travis
You know, it's interesting. He. His. His people. And then he called me later when he was through his head in the run for president. He asked me if I would support him because we've met a couple of times through the years at charity events, at skiing events and things, and he's. He knows where I stand politically. He's always been a very cool guy to me. I mean, like, always. And so I told him, I said, well, you know, you're still a little too far left for me, but I love some of the stuff you're doing and. Because, you know, ever since COVID when government reared its ugly head and showed how much they love using fear as a weapon against its. Its people, and I. I fought back. I got canceled, as like most other people did. I mean, Zuckerberg and his minions took me down for posting their truth about all these things. And I got two really good doctor friends of mine. I never will name them, but they told me the whole time that I said, six feet is ridiculous. Yes. Masks don't work. Yes. All these things. So I'm posting it because I know doctors agreed with me, but that's what got me pulled out of Facebook. But I got to throw the thing, I think that got me almost pulled out of Twitter before Musk bought it. I said, if you want to get rid of COVID tell the Clintons. Covid's got something on them. It'll be the first virus to mysteriously commit suicide.
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Buck Sexton
Covid's got. Covid is going to hang itself in a cell with no cameras on suddenly.
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Clay Travis
Of course it will. Of course it will. No, but I love what he's doing. I love the fact that he's out there, and he's brave about doing these, and he's speaking the truth about it. And I love the fact he mix it. You're throwing musk in that mix. And I just think it's fantastic that we're showing how much waste is out there. We've all known that. We've all known the government is just a big fat belly pig that just throws money around, you know, 50. What? $50 million for condom. Condom, condoms in Gaza or whatever it was. I mean, this is just so stupid to me that we're doing this and there's not a bigger. More people aren't upset about it. You know, even. Even, you know, even.
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Buck Sexton
Shouldn't we all. Shouldn't we all be able to agree, Kevin, that that money going to scammers from the federal government or dead people or whatever, that's just not good. Right? There's no good to be achieved from this. So stopping it would be a good thing. But because Elon is doing it on behalf of Trump now, it's not a good thing. Somehow.
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Clay Travis
That's weird. You Remember prior to 2015, everybody wanted Trump on the talk shows, you know, from Oprah to whoever come on my talk show, do a cameo in my movie. The minute he said, I'm on the, you know, going to run for a Republican side, they just went nuts. And it's just, it's amazing to me the anger that these people have when they're supposed to be the party of love. You know, remember the 60s when the whole hippie boom was going on and free love and the rock and roll was exploding, and the whole thing was, don't trust a man, don't trust the man. And the first thing, when Covid hit, everybody on the left said, trust the man, trust the government. And I'm just laughing at that. And they yell at me to, you know, never question the science. Well, what do they think science is? Science is questioning. That's what it's all about. So the insanity of what they were doing and what the hell they're playing in, the hypocrisy that they blatantly show every bloody day is just amazing to me. It's.
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Buck Sexton
It's craziness. And I will say one thing about, about Trump, it's this. This isn't a complaint, but it, it has made things a little bit harder. This administration is doing so much, so fast that to try to cover it day to day, as I do for three hours, we, you know, I could have done a whole show today just on what he's doing with, with the border immigration enforcement and the epa, but he's also trying to end the Russia Ukraine war. He's also getting the tariffs going and trying to get more cooperation from Canada and Mexico. I mean, it's, it's all cylinders. It's. It's pretty amazing to watch.
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Clay Travis
Well, honestly, can Canada really win this battle? Can Mexico really win? I mean, they both need America more than we need them. And I know they're gonna. I'll get, I'll get hate mail for that because I, look, I live in Vancouver five years. Some of the series shot movies up there. I love it up there. It's a beautiful country. The people I've worked with are fantastic. But the reality is both our countries were pretty much founded around the same time in the late 1700s. We're at 340 million, they're 30 million. If it was so perfect, their government was so amazing, and the Canadian dream was as big as American dream, how come that country hasn't grown? There's just not, you know, they're dwarf compared to our population. And everybody who wants to leave their country, everybody wants to come to America. There's a reason for that. And now we got all these people that are in America, and the ones that move here want to turn us into the countries they left or turn us into a third world or socialist country. It's amazing.
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Buck Sexton
What do you think? Trump, I don't know if you've seen recently. He's brought it up a bunch of times and very clearly, like he says, Canada, 51st state in some variation of this. Is he just poking them and being Trump, or is there more to it than that?
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Clay Travis
I'm thinking he's poking them. Canada would never let that happen anyway. But I just, I think it's funny. I get a kick out of it. I. I don't think. I don't believe it for a minute. And it really won't happen. And. But it's just, it is, it is fun. The guy is actually very funny. I've known him for 20 years. When I golfed him the first time back in 2005, at lunch, I told him, I said, this is 2005. I said, you know what? I want a businessman to run America. We are a business, not a politician that's been in office for 30, 40 years. And he said, yeah, that'd be a good idea. Not knowing 10 years later he was going to throw his hat in the ring.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's. That is one. Actually, I would say there are two things about Trump that are not nearly as widely known as are known by the people that have actually spent time with him. He's a really, like, warm, nice guy. You know, you see the sort of the bravado and the, you know, the braggadocio and everything on tv and yeah, you know, there's, there's sure. Like he's an entertainer, he's a presenter, all that, but he's actually a really, you know, I mean, I've met him, obviously, my wife and I know with. With different friends of mine. He is really kind to people in person. But also he is really funny. Like, constantly says funny things.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, he's very sarcastic and it's funny. You know, when you golf with the guy, he'll get out of his car because you golf fast. In Secret Service, we got six guys with us all the time in their own golf carts. They're like the two guys that go ahead to check out. You know, they're the ones that found the gun coming through the fence there on that front nine at Trump International. But they also are there to make sure the people in front know he's coming through. You got to let them play through. Everyone you play through, he drives up to them, gets out of the cart, shakes everybody's hand, says, thanks for being here. Hope to see you inside for lunch. You think other presidents take the time to do that? I don't think so. And it's pretty amazing. And he's always been. To me, he's always been a pretty cool guy. I saw him the Sunday before he did speak and speak in front of Congress when the Democrats acted like a bunch of seventh grade mean girls, little babies. He, he. He saw me. He's walking on the little catwalk up there. He points on him. He has me come over there, shakes my hand. I said, you remember my wife, Sam? He goes, of course I do. He looks and he says, you know something, Sam? This guy's great, but you're better than he is. So I thought it was pretty funny. He was just giving us a hard time, but it takes the time to do stuff like that.
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Buck Sexton
You know, the. They. They all had fun with it. So I think, I think it's. It's something that everyone can kind of laugh about. You know, this. There's the all in podcast, and one of the guys is Chamath, who has. Do you know what I'm talking about? The all on, you know, David Sacks. You know, these guys have a big podcast, but it was funny. They talked about it on their show and it kind of went viral. As a little clip that when Trump met Chamath and his wife, his, this is his second wife who's like a, like a beautiful Italian model, you know.
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Clay Travis
Sure.
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Buck Sexton
You know, 28 years old or something. And Trump, Trump meets Chamath, who, you know is a very smart guy, but he's not about to win. He's not about to be cast as Hercules. I'll just put it that way. He's not about to be Hercules. And Trump pulls him aside and goes, you must be really rich. When he meets his wife, which I just think is very funny, very Trump, you know, taking. And Chamath thought it was very funny. You know, everyone had kind of a laugh about it. But that's, that's the guy you get with Donald Trump. I saw something really interesting, which is a discussion I wanted to, I wanted to get your perspective on this because you, you've, you're one of the rare ones who has been involved in mass entertainment in a, in a very successful way, obviously. You know, Hercules, as we've talked about before, massive in syndication, massive show. I used to watch it when I was a kid or, you know, teenage. I forget how old I was, but I used to watch the show. And, and you've also done more independent projects and have also had success in the independent projects right there. Not a lot of people that have really played in, in both sides of that, you know, maybe they did something on the, on the big sort of mass entertainment side, but they haven't done their own, their independent stuff successfully. There was a conversation about, in Holly, about how in Hollywood and people, friends of mine like Jesse Kelly and Matt Walsh over Daily Wire were having this exchange on Twitter about how anyone who says that it's okay that Hollywood's out of ideas is just being absurd because there are so many. And they started rallying things off. And I've brought this up on my own, my own show before too. Like the Cortez conquest of Mexico could be the most amazing miniseries anybody's ever. It's one of the most incredible stories in all history. No one's made it. You know, Magellan's Journey, there was a lot of stuff about the age of exploration, for example. But there's so many stories from our founding, so many. Why can't this stuff get made still? Or can it get made? Do we need Elon to write a billion dollar check for there to be a studio that can actually do great entertainment again? Mel Gibson's talking about Malta. We'll get to that a second. But what do what do you make of this?
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Clay Travis
Well, here's the thing. I think the last 15, 20 years they've been a little more shy about coming more original ideas because they've had success with these, Marvel and all that kind of stuff. And I'm gonna have to say Hercules kicked that whole thing off. We shot from 93 to 2000. We were the first really action stuff on TV with a couple spin offs and everybody tried to copy us from. They had Conan and Robin Hood and Tarzan and Cindy and all that stuff. And none of those things were going at that time. But once they kicked off, they just made variations of it. You know, they'll do part two, part three, part four, part five of the same thing over and over again. They make $2 billion. But again, even I'm getting tired of watching these things because most of these, these action movies are about 70%. You know, watching a video game, it's.
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Buck Sexton
All way too much cgi. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
So you kind of go, okay, here we go again. So I think it's starting to dive a little bit. But I think they're just, they, they, they keep that cash cow going if it's working. I think the independent world, like where I'm in with my Sorbo studios. Please go to sorbostudios.com. we do independent movies and a lot more independent production companies are also out there and they're a little more original with their ideas and the things they want to put out there. I'm attracted to true life stories. That's kind of what I do. I've got four new movies coming up this year and three documentaries. So I've been blessed to stay busy. I'm going to direct two more movies this year and I'm taking off for India to shoot an action movie there later in June. So, you know, thank God I'm still busy because Hollywood kicked me out 11 years ago because you can't be conservative and a Christian in Hollywood, that's a really bad thing. And it's just weird. They're like little children. I think the gays are clearly of the closet in Hollywood. It's the, it's the conservatives that are in the closet now. And they got to wake up and stop being afraid.
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Buck Sexton
Do you know Mel at all? Mel Gibson? Do you guys have any contact together? Because, because, because he has talked. This has been a dream of mine for I have been so you got to tell him. Buck Sexton will, will write and consult for free on his Malta project. I've been obsessed with the siege of Malta for like Decades. I have multiple books about it I love. And I've always said this could be an incredible movie because if you put in the proper context, it really was in sort of the same way that they had 300, which is about the pass at Thermopylae and Leonidas, the Spartans. It really was a Western civilization, live or die moment, you could argue, because if they had taken Malta, they would have used it as a staging ground for the invasion of. Of Italy proper. And. And this was the Ottoman Empire, the most powerful empire in the world at the time. And Mel is now. Is. Is. I've heard he's making the. Or he's in the process of trying to get a Malta series made. Have you heard anything about that? And. And if you haven't, I just explain to me to make. That's like a $200 million movie or maybe a $200 million, you know, limited series, five or 10 episodes. How do we get that. How do we get that made?
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Clay Travis
Well, once again, I finally met Elon Musk for the first time two weeks ago, and I think it's talking that long. But I would, you know, I would like a $10 billion check. They got to make movies, and I'll get him. Get him his money back. I've never lost money from my investors, so we do movies in the 3 million range.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
And Mel told me, I talked to him about an hour and a half not too long ago. He gave me the whole idea of. They've been. Him and his brother been writing the sequel to the Passion for the last five years.
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Buck Sexton
Really?
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Clay Travis
And they are going to make that one as well. And he explained that movie to me and I said, Mel, that's $100 million movie. He said, no, it's a $200 million movie just like the number you mentioned from Malta. I shot a movie in Malta, and that. That. That little place in the middle of Mediterranean has gone through just attack after attack, centuries after centuries. And it's still there in the history there is unbelievable. I mean, there's rooms that are. Date back 9,000 years. So I know that he's. He's looking at that as well. So he's got a lot juggling in the air right now. And unfortunately, the guy lost his home in the Palisades fire as well. Right, right. So, you know, he's got a lot of stuff on his brain when it.
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Buck Sexton
Comes to his body of work. I mean, Braveheart is still my. Probably my favorite movie of all time. And, you know, I just absolutely loved that. I saw it when I was in the 8th grade and I've seen it probably 100 times since then. So he's done, he's done some incredible stuff. I actually think Apocalypto, for what it is, is an under, an underrated film. It's pretty amazing actually. You know, what he did with that and to have it all.
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Clay Travis
It was almost a documentary.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, yes.
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Clay Travis
You know, it had that kind of feel.
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Buck Sexton
The fact that it was in, in the native language, whatever, you know, whatever it was of the, you know, the, the Aztecs or the Mayas or wherever it was. Now I forget. But yeah, I just, it feels like there's been a change. Are, are you, are you hearing and seeing the change in sentiment from corporate America in this new era of, of make. Of the golden age of America? Trump 2.0. Like, there's Jeff Bezos is now at, was at the inauguration and, and you know, suddenly the Apprentice is showing up on Amazon. Yeah, like what? Could you get a meeting now with Bezos or rather with whoever runs, you know, Amazon Studios to make, to make a series, you know, with, with a 50 to $100 million budget or do you think that that's coming, right?
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Clay Travis
I think it's coming. And you can, I mean, look it. Zuckerberg, the same way. You know, they did a 1180 flip when Trump got in office. I don't know. If he didn't get in office, I don't think they'd be doing that. I think it's all once again the, the, the, the exposure of, the hypocrisy of these people. But I look at it as a positive thing anyway because Trump's in there. Trump effect is real. And these guys, I would love to have meetings with those guys. Like I said, I don't, I don't need a $200 million give it to, give it to a guy like, you know, Mel. Like I said, I like to do movies that are budgets that are manageable and make sense and can get their money back from my investors. That's the kind of things I'm doing. But Mel's. Mel still got the powers. I got the chops. And he's going to jump on board and do what he wants. But I know, I know he's going to do the sequel to pass. I just don't think they're going to start that for another year or so.
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Buck Sexton
Wow, that's, that's, that's. I mean, I remember when I saw that that's powerful and made it.
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Clay Travis
It's tough. It Was tough.
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Buck Sexton
Made a tremendous amount of money, too, which was interesting because at the time, all the critics hated it, you know, but it made like $800 million or something.
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Clay Travis
Well, you know, it's interesting, you know, in the Jewish community, they don't like the, that the Pharisees, that they had anything do with Jesus and Jesus getting crucified. Well, the Pharisees are Jewish and they had something to do with it. They did not like the man. They were threatened by Jesus. So I think they're walking on water. I think most of the Jewish community in Hollywood, they play the anti semi card pretty much when it just serves their purpose. I mean, they don't. Otherwise they just kind of lay back. I don't remember many of them being practiced Jews. And I lived in Hollywood for a long time and my entire teams, from managers to agents to publicists to whatever, were Jews, and I got along just fine. But once I got to a point when they said, oh, you can't work with you anymore, but I've been to Israel like five or six times, and I'll tell you, the Jews in Israel love Trump. So totally opposite with the Jewish community in America for some reason. So I wish I could figure that one out. But, you know, as I tell my liberal friends, I said, you know, behind closed doors, you're gonna admit to yourselves that Trump's gonna make your lives better, but you will never admit it in public.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, yeah, no, there's a lot of, there's a lot of that going on. Let me tell you. People that are like, yeah, maybe the crazy stuff that was going on with the Biden regime and the dementia puppet and everything, maybe it wasn't such a good idea. Just one, one more thing for you. I'm just wondering. I know you've, you've. That's an incredible record that you say you, you're able to make independent films that make money. Just being able to make independent films is, is. I, I know people have tried to do this that's, you know, impressive enough, but you've got around where you. Yeah, it's not, not easy to do. The fact that you actually do it as a capitalist and it's successful, I tip my hat to you on that. But if somebody gave you. Is, is there a historical epic that you would want to do or a project of any kind that you would want to do that if you had whatever budget you needed to do it, you already have in your mind, this is what it would be.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. I would like to redo the musical. Jesus Christ. Superstar. Because when the original came out in 1771, it was a total. They made it modern day. It was totally affected by the hippie movement, the free love movement. And it's just horrible. The soundtrack is fantastic. Andrew Lloyd Webber did an amazing soundtrack. I was telling Mel about this when I said it. He goes, well, good luck with that. But I was just like, I would like to redo it and do it set in biblical times. And I would book all the characters of people that really could sing. I mean, there I. It just. There were some great voices in that, in the original, but overall it was just, it was, it was, it was just so bad. It was so. It was so dated. And it doesn't need to be dated. I mean, you can go back to the 40s and see Casablanca today. It's not dated. It's awesome. It's such a great script. I would love to do a Jeremiah Johnson type of movie. I'm a big fan of that Robert Redford movie and to me it's. But Jesus Christ Superstar, I think for $80 million, I could do a great job with it.
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Buck Sexton
Kevin Sorbo, everybody. Kevin, what's your production studio? Where should folks go online to see your next projects and support your work?
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Clay Travis
Go to sorbo studios.com that's sorbo studios.com. a lot of great things come on the pipeline. Got three great documentaries come down. One deals with the Last Supper. It's called Eating with the Enemy. It's with Brent Miller and Ingenuity Films. I did one with him three years ago called before the Wrath that deals with the second coming. It was the number one document on Amazon for five months. And I want to give a plug for my buddy Ian went veteran who does Patriot clothing. Go on his website as well. Great guy. And support our vets.
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Buck Sexton
Wonderful. Kevin, thanks so much for all you do. Good to talk to you.
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Clay Travis
God bless. Thanks.
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Hey Clay, if there was a summer camp for critical thinking, we'd be the chief counselors. Those jelly heads in June would be intellectual warriors by August. Be a lot of fun too. Some Bill and Ted's excellent adventure references thrown in this podcast. Like a daily dose of that. Minus the campfires, archery and pranking the girls. The Bonafide Boot camp for critical thinking. You can get in on it for free at the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Just search our names Clay and Bach. Listen and subscribe.