Buck Brief - Let's Talk Real Epstein Files Transparency

Summary

Podcast Summary:

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show — Buck Brief: Let's Talk Real Epstein Files Transparency
Date: February 18, 2026
Host: Buck Sexton
Guest: Lydia Moynihan (New York Post)
Duration: ~24 min (main content)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Buck Sexton welcomes Lydia Moynihan of the New York Post for a timely discussion centered on the fallout from recent Epstein files releases and broader issues of media transparency, public perception, and political accountability. The pair also delve into the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping media phenomenon and end with a focused discussion about the SAVE Act and election integrity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Buck's Book Launch & Satirical Nod to Chomsky

Timestamp: 02:44–05:34

• Buck introduces his new book, "Manufacturing Delusion: How the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination, and Propaganda Against You," a deliberate play on Noam Chomsky’s work.
• Lydia jokes about affording the book due to the state of the Trump economy and highlights the daunting length of the title.
• Buck explains the iterative, sometimes absurd, process of book titling in publishing, sharing a rejected proposal—“Two Plus Two Equals Five”—that he found particularly ironic.

“Some have actually managed to figure out that it is a little bit of a cheeky rejoinder to a Noam Chomsky… who is a godless communist who hates America.”
— Buck Sexton (03:00)

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2. The Epstein Files: Fallout, Media Frenzy, and Public Confusion

Timestamp: 05:34–14:37

a. Guilt By Association & Media Hysteria

• Lydia notes the randomness and breadth of the DOJ's newly released names, including celebrities like Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley, leading to an indiscriminate media hunt.
• Both speakers express concern over undeserved reputational damage through mere mention—describing this as a "net" snagging those only loosely associated.

"If you're over the age of 45 and you're not mentioned in the Epstein files, you weren't hustling hard enough."
— Lydia Moynihan (07:17)

b. Selective Consequences for Elites

• Lydia and Buck agree that true elites (e.g., Bill Gates, Reid Hoffman) escape meaningful consequences, while lesser-known figures face disproportionate blowback.

"Bill Gates is a loathsome scumbag, but people should have known because he was going around, you know, funding organizations that were trying to get us all to eat bug meat..."
— Buck Sexton (08:03)

c. The Avalanche of Information Without Context

• Lydia points to the DOJ’s strategy: massive dumps of raw, uncontextualized data, fueling sensationalist headlines rather than deeper understanding.
• Both critique the absence of "transparency with explanation," calling for official clarification about what the files do—and do not—prove.

“The latest list that the DOJ released was literally just a list of like 300 names…Totally random. And I think the media is having a field day because I don't believe in guilt by association, but they are manufacturing a lot of these sort of… headlines.”
— Lydia Moynihan (06:41)

d. Drawing the Lines: Bad Company vs. Criminality

• Both stress the important distinction between unsavory but legal behavior and criminal acts (especially as regards to Epstein’s notorious conduct with minors).
• Lydia emphasizes that being an adult guest at a party is not the same as being a victim of Epstein's crimes, yet sensationalist coverage often costs nuance.

"There's a bright red line and I think some people are losing sight of... there's conduct that's gross, but it's not illegal and it's not, you know, monstrous or deeply unethical in the same way as the clearly illegal bright red line crossing stuff would be."
— Buck Sexton (10:41)

e. The “Never Satisfied” Public

• They discuss how no amount of disclosure seems enough to those convinced there's always a cover-up, likening it to endless conspiracy theories (e.g., Trump-Russia, JFK).

"If you believe something without looking to facts or data, I don't think you're ever going to be satisfied."
— Lydia Moynihan (14:30)

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3. The Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping: Why the Media Obsession?

Timestamp: 15:58–19:24

a. Wall-to-Wall Coverage Despite Lack of New Developments

• Lydia describes constant, contentless news updates (“an exercise in how much you can talk without saying anything”) and the resulting opportunity cost for more substantive issues.

"It's kind of, honestly, an exercise in how much can you talk without saying anything? Because they are filling hours and hours of TV without sharing anything new."
— Lydia Moynihan (16:19)

b. Double Standards in Coverage & Law Enforcement Response

• Buck points out the discrepancy in law enforcement attention surrounding the Guthrie case — suggesting resources are allocated due to her being a “news anchor’s mother,” while “worse” true crime stories get less attention.
• Both worry about the zero-sum allocation of attention and investigative resources.

"There is something that's true, that this is more of a thing because there are—if you're looking for true crime stories, there's terrible stuff going on all the time... but it's not famous people. And so nobody pays any attention to it."
— Buck Sexton (17:29)

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4. Election Integrity & the SAVE Act

Timestamp: 19:24–23:56

a. The Essentials of the SAVE Act

• Lydia pleads for focused media attention on the SAVE Act, which requires proof of citizenship to vote, noting most countries—even those sending migrants—implement such measures.
• She frames opposition to voter ID as untenable, referencing the inconsistent demands of left-leaning politicians who required vaccine cards but not photo IDs for voting.

"Most countries, even in South America... have proof of citizenship when you go to vote. And so I think this is something we need to pass… We just need to focus on making sure that it’s only citizens who are voting."
— Lydia Moynihan (20:09)

b. The Impossibility of Satisfying Voter Security Critics

• Buck argues Democratic opposition to any voter security is absolute and reflexive—“the most consistent thing... about Democrats.”
• Lydia and Buck debate the legitimacy of arguments regarding “disenfranchisement” and the supposed obstacle of obtaining IDs.

"If you cannot figure out how to get an id, how are you possibly going to stay on top of the issues and be informed enough to have a say?"
— Lydia Moynihan (22:34)

"If you're too dumb to figure out how to get an ID... you know what, leave it to the adults."
— Buck Sexton (23:09)

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Speaker)

• On Book Titling and Satire

  • "It is a little bit of a cheeky rejoinder to a Noam Chomsky...who is a godless communist who hates America."
    — Buck Sexton (03:00)

• On Guilt by Association in the Epstein Files

  • "If you're over the age of 45 and you're not mentioned in the Epstein files, you weren't hustling hard enough."
    — Lydia Moynihan (07:17)

• On the “Never Satisfied” Public & Conspiracies

  • "If you believe something without looking to facts or data, I don't think you're, you're ever going to be satisfied."
    — Lydia Moynihan (14:30)

• On the Obsession with the Nancy Guthrie Story

  • "It's kind of, honestly, an exercise in how much can you talk without saying anything?"
    — Lydia Moynihan (16:19)

• On Voter ID and the SAVE Act

  • "If you cannot figure out how to get an ID, how are you possibly going to stay on top of the issues and be informed enough to have a say?"
    — Lydia Moynihan (22:34)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 02:44 — Buck introduces new book, “Manufacturing Delusion”
• 05:34 — Epstein Files: Randomness, media, and guilt by association
• 08:03 — Elites evading accountability: Bill Gates, etc.
• 10:41 — Distinction between criminal and unsavory legal conduct
• 14:30 — Conspiratorial thinking and endless demands for 'more transparency'
• 15:58 — Nancy Guthrie case and media obsession
• 19:24 — SAVE Act and voter ID debate
• 23:09 — “Leave it to the adults”: ID and civic responsibility

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Tone and Style Notes

• Conversational, with frequent quips and irreverent asides.
• Mix of serious political analysis and dry humor (often at the expense of elites or government transparency failures).
• Direct, unapologetic, and skeptical—especially towards media, government, and elite narratives.
• Occasional sarcasm and blunt expressions (“loathsome scumbag,” “leave it to the adults”).

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Conclusion

This episode offers an incisive, skeptical look at how the media and government are handling both the Epstein files’ transparency and public fascination with high-profile news. Buck and Lydia emphasize the dangers of guilt by association, selective outrage, the need for real clarity from officials, and the costs of media sensationalism. The conversation closes with Lydia making a passionate case for voter integrity laws and reflecting—only half-jokingly—on who should really be trusted to vote.

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For those seeking to cut through the media sensationalism and understand the real stakes and questions in the news, this episode provides sharp critique, biting humor, and candid discussion on some of today's hottest controversies.

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[Buck Sexton]

Hey, everybody. Welcome in. It is book publishing day, so I have to tell you, get your copy of Manufacturing Delusion. How the left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination, and Propaganda against you. Just Manufacturing Delusion for those who. And some have actually managed to figure out that it is a little bit of a cheeky rejoinder to a Noam Chomsky. Noam of the Epstein files, I might add. Noam Chomsky book and who is a godless communist who hates America. So this is a better book that deals with much more interesting things. We are joined now by my friend Lydia Moynihan. She is of the New York Post. She has also assured me that she will be buying a copy of the book, which is a smart thing to say to a podcast host before you're going on his show. You don't want to go the other direction with. Nah, I'm not really a reader, so thank you for that.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Well, and thanks to Trump's economy, I can now afford to drop 30 bucks on a book.

[Buck Sexton]

I did see that eggs. Eggs are down a lot from their high. So we got that going for us, which is nice. Right? So now the. The hardcover or the audiobook, whichever. I like to sell those hardcovers because, wow, hardcover books are kind of expensive. Like 30 bucks.

[Lydia Moynihan]

It's a lot. That's. That. That should be. Trump's next focus is taking down the price of books. No. Congratulations.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you.

[Lydia Moynihan]

It is a mouthful. Like, I think that if I was to have a book, I would name it something really short that's like one syllable. So kudos to you for naming it something aggressive that you have to, like, constantly repeat.

[Buck Sexton]

So I will tell you.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Read the audiobook.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, I did the audiobook myself. Yes, the audiobook. Yeah. Yeah. So people can go and listen to. If they prefer, they can have my voice doing all the. All the heavy lifting for them. But I. When I was going through this process, I wanted to. The title that I wanted was just Manufacturing Delusion, and that was the first title that I wanted from the very beginning. And it's one of these things where editors, you know, the publisher came along, Editors working the publisher, and we had to do this like, okay, well, that's good. But let's go through. And we went through, like, all these other titles and all these other Things. At one point, out of nowhere, a kind of person I wasn't working directly with was like, what if we just called it two plus two equals five? I was like, I think that's going to make it pretty easy to denigrate the book. It's like if the. If the title of the book is incorrect. Now, of course, the idea being like, that's. That's like what, you know, manufactured delusion is. It's when you will. You will affirm the most obvious lies and you will negate the most most important truths and how that plays out in politics. But I just thought it was kind of funny. I was like, wow, we're really taking this. And then we went. The point is, we went all the way back to the original title after weeks of back and forth over titles. So I feel like. There we go. And with special points for anybody who got the Noam Chomsky reference in there, so. Yes, indeed. All right.

[Lydia Moynihan]

The Epstein files never die, nor do their main characters.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. I'm also curious. There are some people that are in the Epstein. Okay, we can talk Epstein files here for a second. I think I'm actually talking later tonight about this, so you can school me up on this a bit. There are some people who appear in the apps, including one or two people that I know, not well, but know them, who appear in the Epstein files a lot. And what I think is interesting is now we're at the phase where if you're in the files, but there's nothing about you that comes across that is just like, gross. And again, there's nothing. No criminal charges of any kind based on what's in these files at this point. So that's off the table. But like Peter Attia, for example, when you're going to hang out with Epstein instead of being with your kid who's in the icu, and you say it's because, like, I think that's. By the way, I think that's brand annihilation. I have nothing against the guy. I think that's really. That's really. What do you think? Does. Does he manage to come back from.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Depending on the kindness of strangers. Right. People who are supporting you and think you're a good guy look up to you, whether it's for longevity, inspiration. But people. People liked him.

[Announcer]

Right.

[Lydia Moynihan]

And so I think he's going to lose any of that sort of identity capital that he had. Yeah. I go back and forth between being outraged and then just super confused about the Epstein files. The latest list that the DOJ released was literally just a list of like 300 names that are referenced in the files, like Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley. Totally random. And I think the media is having a field day because I don't believe in guilt by association, but they are manufacturing a lot of these sort of guilt by association headlines. There's been so many takedowns of people who were just casually mentioned, which I don't think is fair. And I don't want to slander or attack somebody because they were briefly called out. In fact, I was speaking with one person who said, look, if you're over the age of 45 and you're not mentioned in the episode files, you weren't hustling hard enough. So clearly there is this concept of sort of social proof where people maybe didn't necessarily know Epstein, but they, they knew people who knew him, didn't know enough about him to really have an opinion, but they were in that social circle. And so I, I do think that too many people are being caught in this net. But at the same time, it doesn't seem like people like Bill Gates or Reid Hoffman, who are sort of the upper echelon elites of our society, are really suffering any consequences.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I mean, Bill Gates is a loathsome scumbag, but people should have known because he was going around, you know, funding organizations that were trying to get us all to eat bug meat and grow man boobs. Like, there was plenty of stuff to see about Bill Gates that we should not have liked way before the Epstein files.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Totally, totally. But I think it's interesting because somebody like him isn't really gonna face any consequences because he's so rich. He's sort of above any reproach. And it's those people who maybe are more, they're not billionaires, but they were sort of in those circles who maybe are being unfairly attacked. And that, and that's kind of unfortunate because I would like to see somebody like Bill Gates actually taken down and not the people who just maybe had a conversation with Epstein once.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I do think that there are a lot of people who, because so many names have come out now, like there are people who visited the island like with their wife and kids, and people are saying, oh my gosh, it's like, no, you don't understand. This guy was just a really rich guy who was positioning himself as essentially this super rich dude with access to a lot of, of age women, which is something else that doesn't get talked about. He would bring 24 year old Victoria's Secret models to parties. I Know a lot of guys in their 50s and 60s. Yeah, I know a lot of guys in their 50s and 60s who were like, that sounds, you know, then you have to separate these things. That's different than Epstein and his own personal conduct. Obviously was involved with underage girls and did stuff that he was going to go to prison for the rest of his life before. Well, before he died in that prison cell. So there's, there's all that. But is it ever going to be enough for the people who want. Is there such a thing as enough transparency on this? Now? I wasn't even going to talk to you about Epstein, but it feels like it just comes up all the time. I want to talk about Nancy Guthrie in a second.

[Lydia Moynihan]

I, and I vacillate back and forth because so far, I mean, I think the, the dump that we've seen has shed a lot more heat than light. There's been victims who've been named and so that dump has sort of been a disaster. And then you look at some of the, the emails that have been redacted and the subject line is like, I had a great time with your naughtiest little girl. Like, why was that person's email redacted? So I think there's, I think there's too many questions. But I also feel like any of these mysteries, like the JFK assassination, like, I just don't think we're going to get everything we want from these documents.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, the other thing is.

[Lydia Moynihan]

And I also think to your point, a lot of lecherous people, a lot of creepy people knew him, but that doesn't mean that they were raping children. Like, yes, you can be a really bad guy.

[Buck Sexton]

It's a different thing. That's a, that's a different, it's a very different thing. It is different in the criminal law is different, you know, morally. I mean, this is a, this is a, there's a bright red line and I think some people are losing sight of. Ok, well, there's conduct that's, you know, like this conduct that's. You don't agree with or is gross, but it's not illegal and it's not, you know, monstrous or deeply unethical in the same way as the clearly illegal bright red line crossing stuff would be. And so I think that some of that gets lost in this, in this discussion. But these women who keep having the press conferences, you know, Clay actually got, my co host on radio, you know, Clay, he got a lot of heat from this because he's pointed this out. Others have as well. Okay, why don't they just say who victimized them? And I'm seeing now some of these women were being told. And again, this is not to in any way, you know, take away from the focus on the awfulness of the exploitation of the underage girls that Epstein was involved in, but someone telling me that they were 23 and they went to Epstein parties, I'm like, OK, well, like, what was the. You were. You were. You were an adult. I mean, we could say that, you know, if they're being. What do you call it? If they're being paid. Ok, that's prostitution. But what. What is the. Why are we having these press conferences? The people who are. I don't understand. What are we being told by the people who were adults at the time and at all times when they interacted with Epstein? Why is that the center of this conversation? Sometimes that seems to me you're right.

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No.

[Lydia Moynihan]

And it's perpetuating this myth that there is a string of child rapists and pedophiles. And I do think, look, certainly if the Biden administration had any smoking gun against Trump, against any Republican from the Epstein files, they would have tried to put them in jail 10 ways to Sunday. And I think you look at this doj, if there was a smoking gun that claimed Bill Gates had done something that could put him in jail, I'd like to think that Pam Bondi would go after him. But the reality is it doesn't seem at this point that we have any evidence of that. And I guess I think it would be great if the DOJ clarified and said, look, we've looked into this, we've looked into that. We've gone down the rabbit holes, and there's just nothing to substantiate it. Because I think what they're doing now is they're just releasing all of this information and they're not really walking people through it or providing context. Right. They had this list that they. They just listed 300 names, and there was no information about what Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe could possibly have in common. So I would like to see an explanation of why they've done what they've done. I think that would be really helpful because I would imagine, again, if there were people and they had a smoking gun, I'd like to think they would go after them. Yeah, I don't.

[Buck Sexton]

I think so, too. This is what I said, but I.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Don'T think thousands of people are covering up for one person.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, this is what I said about the files. I said, guys, if there was smoking gun in the files, they, it wouldn't be in the files. You would already know. Or, or it has been removed from the files already, which means it's not in the files. Right. This is, we kind of keep going around in this circle they don't have. This is like what I said about Trump's tax returns. The government already had them. I know it's a very different issue, but I'm like, there's no Putin. I love you. Thanks for the $5 million in Trump's tax returns. The government has them to go through and look over, but, you know, anyway, People like to believe this madness, by the way.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Never satisfied, right? Like if you're somebody who thinks that Trump is a Russian agent, it doesn't matter. They could release everything and you would never be satisfied because you would believe without evidence that something is true and you would always believe, oh, well, there's more that we haven't seen. There's more. They're covering up.

[Buck Sexton]

You.

[Lydia Moynihan]

If you believe something without looking to facts or data, I don't think you're, you're ever going to be satisfied.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Lydia Moynihan]

What's baffling to me too is right, there's nothing, there's no new update, and yet we'll get like five push notifications in a day to say DNA found, DNA being invested. All of these updates when there's really nothing new to report on. And there's wall to wall cover. I've had multiple TV hits now cancel because they're like, sorry, we're doing wall to wall coverage on Nancy Guthrie. And I just. It's kind of, it's kind of honestly an exercise in how much can you talk without saying anything? Because they are filling hours and hours of TV without sharing anything new. And I also don't understand why this has caught fire in such a way. It's a tragic story, but it's, it's a news anchor's mother. There's, at this point, there's nothing that we can extrapolate that would have a broader application. Right. So I don't understand the obsession. I think it's tragic, it's horrible. But I feel like there's so many other important stories, especially in conservative media, like let's talk about the SAVE Act. That is something that should be getting wall to wall coverage. I just think it's, it's a missed opportunity to cover stories that ultimately will impact our lives so much more.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I can tell you that the audience on radio was the first day that the first days, I should say, when the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping, because we talked about it a little bit again, just, hey guys, this happened. Here's what we know. And then we moved on to other things. Even with that, there are people who are saying, you know, we just need to all be clear about something. This is getting a lot more attention because this woman is a news anchor's mother. Why should that matter? Like, why is the FBI director flying down to address this? Why is this. And it. There is something that's true, that this is more of a thing because there are terrible. If you're looking for true crime stories, there's terrible stuff going on all the time. It's honestly like considerably worse than this. And. But it's not famous people. And so nobody, nobody pays any attention to it. This is the mother of a known person. And not only is it getting more news coverage There is a. Law enforcement seems particularly invested in this kidnapping, which raises some issues.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Yeah, I mean, I can imagine how devastating it would be right now if a loved one, you know, you were connected to was having something going on. You weren't getting the resources you need. I do think there is sort of a zero sum game where when you're allocating all of these resources to one incident, other incidents aren't getting coverage. And I, it was interesting initially and I think people, this is to your point earlier, people love conspiracy theories. This is a mystery. It's something you can talk about that you can have theories and guess. And it's very intriguing in a way that I think, as you mentioned too, like people love true crime. Like, this is an intriguing story in a lot of ways. And my guess is clearly it's, it's rating or yes, of course, to cover it. But.

[Buck Sexton]

I've never seen so much news coverage of something.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Donald Trump's mother. Right. It's not like it's.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Lydia Moynihan]

A sitting senator or the president or, or someone like that. And I mean, maybe, maybe everyone has a deep dark fear of their mother being kidnapped and, and that's why it's resonating. But I truly, I don't understand the obsession. I think there is an opportunity cost in covering this. We're missing other really important stories.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, well, let me give you a couple minutes here because I feel like now I'm guilty of this because I'm talking here. We are talking about Nancy Guthrie. Why is everybody. But it does go to a broader, it does go to a broader thing about is the news what is important for people to know or is the news what people want to click on and read about or watch on tv? And that's a constant debate in our society that's playing out all the time. But the SAVE act, it is important say if Lydia Moynihan, why?

[Lydia Moynihan]

I will take every opportunity to talk about the SAVE act. We've had 10 to 20 million people who've come in here illegally over the past five years. And in many states, in New York State, it's basically the honor code to vote. And so I believe that. And look, even if there's only 100 or 1000 votes from non citizens, that is too many. And I think everyone talks about Democrats whole talking points. We need to save democracy. We need to fight for democracy. That's exactly what the SAVE act does. Free and fair elections are the cornerstone of any society. This is so popular, most voters want the SAVE Act. They want people to have proof of citizenship when they're voting. Most countries, even in South America, where all these people are coming from, most countries have proof of citizenship when you go to vote. And so I think this is something we need to pass. Republicans really only gotten one sort of flagship piece of legislation. This is something they need to get done before the midterms, because given the influx of so many illegal immigrants, and I think there is going to be an inevitable push for amnesty in the coming years. But right now, we just need to focus on making sure that it's only citizens who are voting. This is something everyone wants. Republicans just need to get it done.

[Buck Sexton]

It is fascinating that you have Democrats always and everywhere oppose any voter security measure. Like, it's the most consistent thing, I think, about Democrats, other than they want abortion all the time, every time, for all non, you know, like. But it's right up there. It is anything to do to make it more possible that your election does not have any shenanigans, any security measure whatsoever. They oppose every single one. Right.

[Lydia Moynihan]

It's. I mean, it's truly baffling. And then once you try and say this is what most people want, this is what everyone else has, then they just immediately say that you're racist and sexist and you don't want disenfranchised voters to vote. I was actually on with Kevin o' Leary last night. We were talking about this, and he said, and I'm gonna. I'm hold his feet to the buyer, because one of the criticisms is that, oh, people can't possibly afford an ID or a passport. It's just too expensive. He said, okay, great, I'm gonna pay for everyone to get a passport or an id. And I'm gonna hold him to that because you can debunk pretty much every argument they make against this. And I think I've also just been thinking about the hoops that we had to jump through during COVID especially in New York. I had to go wait in line for hours. I had to fight to get an appointment. I had to get not one, but two jabs of a vaccine that was completely untested. I had to carry a card around with multiple stickers anytime I wanted to see the doctor. I had to show them that physical card. I mean, it was outrageous. And Republicans say, oh, let's. Let's make sure that there's id. And Democrats now suddenly are all up in arms saying, oh, it's too onerous. Disenfranchised voters aren't going to be able to figure out how to get an id and like, this sounds offensive, but if you cannot figure out how to get an id, how are you possibly going to stay on top of the issues and be informed enough to have a say?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. If you can't figure out how to.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Get an id, what are the bare minimum.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't want you to vote, actually, so I don't. And by the way, whatever. If you're too dumb to figure out how to get an ID in America, where they make it free in most places and very easy. You know what? Leave it to the adults.

[Lydia Moynihan]

That's on.

[Buck Sexton]

That's where I'm going to leave that. Lydia Moynihan, New York Post. Look for her on cnn. Schooling Kevin o' Leary and others are actually you and Kevin on the same side. But give Mr. Wonderful my, my. He has no idea who I am. Actually. That's not true. Well, he wouldn't. He wouldn't know if he saw me. He would know. I saw him on the street of Miami like a year ago and he like took a second. I'm like, it's cool. You've only been on my show like four times, but. But that's fine. Mr. Wonderful, like, you know, he's like, I think much better. Yeah. I was like, I think I like kind of remember. I'm like, all right, don't worry about it. You know, maybe, maybe I've like gotten a 10 because I'm in Miami. Lydia Moynihan, the great and the great and powerful, thank you so much.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Such a pleasure. Congratulations on the book.

[Buck Sexton]

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