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Deborah Leah
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Buck Sexton
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Deborah Leah
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Buck Sexton
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Deborah Leah
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Buck Sexton
First time on the podcast, Deborah Leia joins us, everybody. She is a conservative commentator. She was just on Gutfeld show. You see her on Fox, you see her all over the place. And she's with us now. I wanted you because I don't think that this audience is familiar with you give a little bit of, of who you are and how you came into this because I think that's always a really a worthwhile place to start with people who are all of a sudden in the, in the center of the storm.
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Deborah Leah
Thank you. Great to be on with you. And I think that's my history is definitely like a good inspiration story for a lot of young folks who want to get into politics because people will look at you on primetime shows and they'll look at you at the White House with Trump and everything and automatically assume you just popped up overnight. But I've definitely put in at least six years of work into this career. So born and raised in New York City City, kid strongs over here. And I went to Bar Ilan University in Tel Aviv after graduating high school where I had two direct rocket impacts. And that was the catalyst for me to kind of get involved in geopolitics and hopefully be one day in a position of power to just make this world a little bit more Trump Strong, as we call it, like strong international policy, strong diplomatic strains. And so I came back to Maryland. I started Turning Point Chapter at UMD under the guise of Charlie Kirk, who inspired me a lot and gave me the strength. And I did. We were chatting about this a little bit before I got jumped on campus. I didn't get my face broken or anything, but I had a table with a pumpkin and it had people putting rubber bands around the pumpkin to show the pumpkin are taxpayers and the rubber band are taxes. And eventually if you constrict the taxpayers so much, they'll explode. And the Bernie Bros didn't like that. And they came over, flipped my table, took all the buttons, started throwing them at people. Smash the pumpkin. And I just laughed because that was the environment that we were dealing with. College campuses are truly a war of ideologies for the young folks. And thank God for Charlie Kirk's organization and his leadership, which has inspired a lot of young folks like me to actually be involved in the political space in an important capacity. So now I've worked on campaigns, I'm a regular on Fox News. I get to work as the new media with the Trump administration and just doing everything I can to further conservative values without reacting to the left all the time.
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Buck Sexton
Wow, that's great. Before we get into, obviously, Trump's State of the Union is tonight. And so people will be hearing, a lot of people will be hearing this probably right before and then some will be hearing it after. So we'll just sort of talk about some of the broad issues that we know he's going to address and get your sense as to how it's gone in this first year. But one thing, because you are at that intersection, you're doing media, but also, I mean, you're Gen Z, right? You're, you're, you're a young1, so 25. Yeah. So you know what the campus scene is like. Were you. I, I have, I'm. Take a moment for a second. So I have to pat myself on the back on this because the first thing that I did in, in college that dealt with Middle east issues, like I went to the CIA after 9, 11, but that's a whole other thing. But the first thing that I did even before that was study Arab Israeli conflict, which is what they called at the time. I think now it's probably considered Israeli Palestinian conflict is what at most campuses, but it was called Arab Israeli back then. And so I wasn't surprised at all by really anything that has happened on these campuses because I also try to explain to everybody that it is a, that they view it as a race conflict on American campuses. They're ignorant of the history. They don't actually know anything. They might say something like, oh, Balfour Declaration or 1948 or 67 or Resolution 242 of the U.N. they don't, it doesn't matter. They view it as white people, Jews oppressing brown people, Palestinians. And that's really the sum total of their emotional involvement. And that's always been the case, by the way, for the American left on these campuses. So when this all broke out and all of a sudden people were turning around being like, wait a second, these campuses are like laboratories of lunacy. Were you like, I told you so? Were you like, yeah, of course. I mean, I'm just wondering where was your, what was your sense of what was going on when all that was happening?
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Deborah Leah
We saw it coming from a mile away. This had been stuff that people on all college campuses had been advocating for for a while was just the blatant anti Semitism on. At University of Maryland, they held our Senate election races on Yom Kippur, the holiest fast day of the entire year for Jews, so that they couldn't participate. All the BDS rallies were on Saturdays so that Jews couldn't do anything about it. We couldn't report it. They really. This has been going on for a long time and it's really because of Qatar funding our universities. We have China funding our universities. Any college campus that has a CCP on their campus means China gets to approve the textbooks through certain deals with universities. So we've been infiltrated from the inside out. And I'm glad that people are more aware of it now. But a lot of people who have deep concerns for international relations and American sovereignty and security have been, you know, calling the alarms and blowing the whistles about this for a while, that this wasn't new. This was a very long, long plan that has finally reached a point of mass awareness in society, which is bad. It's detrimental to society, society for us to all look at things through the lens of victim victor, and especially that they were able to rebrand the story. The Jewish people are the largest example of victims turned victors. Going back to the holy land after 2000 years of exile, reviving a dead language, Hebrew, which is now the spoken language in Israel, spoken by Jews mostly around the world. It's pretty incredible. And it's a great story of becoming victors after years of oppression. And that should be the message that we were teaching on college campuses. But like you said, they were just teaching white bad, brown good. And that's not the message that we believe in in America.
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Buck Sexton
What do you think about some of the stuff on the right that has got. Look, I mean, you mentioned Charlie before. May rest in peace. Obviously, the people are still. Tonight, Erica Kirk will be invited as a special guest of the president to commemorate. To memorialize Charlie Kirk and to show support for his widow and Charlie's family. But Charlie was trying to deal with, you know, he was caught in the middle politically of this wave on the right of very. You know, I would hear people say, well, I just want to be. I just want the right to criticize Israel. And I'd sit there and say, well, yeah, you obviously have the right. And there are things to criticize about Israel, like there are any country. But the people who would say things like including America, of course. But the people who would say things like, well, I want the right to criticize Israel, would then say often false, defamatory, borderline insane things on the right, which was something new. Where did that come? Because all the left wing stuff, by the way, that was not a, you know, white people oppressing brown people. They're always the victims. Palestinians, Hamas can, you know, can saw off heads, light everyone on fire, do whatever they want. They're the victims. That's the way it goes, according to the left, and it's crazy. But on the right, where did that come from?
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Deborah Leah
You know, it's very interesting because I had the opportunity to go to Israel on a Christian influencer trip led by Turning Point a year before October 7th, October of 2022. And I had the most incredible experience watching my dear Christian friends fall in love with the Holy Land, walk the exact lands that Jesus had walked, and really see the Bible come to life before their eyes. And they left Israel with such a strong connection to the land, and it is the Holy Land. At the end of the day, all three Abrahamic faiths can connect to Israel. And so I think the biggest shift in this, and which is the most obvious answer that nobody ever really speaks about, is Tucker and Candace getting fired from their mainstream jobs if they were to continue to just do what they were doing beforehand. I watched Tucker every single night my entire life. Nobody was more disappointed in his shift than the Jews who loved him. He was my normal routine with my dad. And I think it's very obvious that people who shift away from mainstream networks or their main platform when they go out independently or not really, because they have these donors that we all know don't have the best ideas behind it, but they have to keep going crazier to get attention. It's the same thing on the left that you just have to keep going further and further to get the views up. Specifically Candace Owens, if she were to just continue doing her thing, trying to push out some level of conservative values like she had done at the Daily Wire, people eventually, maybe the first few episodes would have maintained the same viewership. But over time, people like the institutions that they like, people who turn Fox News on every day are not changing to some strange alternative channel. They're not necessarily going to switch over from YouTube to rumble every single day. And so I think these people knew that and they knew that they had to keep going crazier and crazier. But overall, it's really damaging to conservative values because above all, we believe in true Judeo Christian values. And I really believe in the strength between Jews and Christians. And I think that's the path forward and is unity through shared values. Because I think if you poll and of course people have gotten less religious, you pull an average religious Jew and you pull an average religious Christian, I think they would have 99% of their values in common as compared to any random far right, far left, or even a moderate that you would find off the street. And I think it's important that we remember that above all, God is above all and we should be living values that God would be proud of. And those many individuals on the right, I think are doing it selfishly and they're not trying to honor God and they're trying to desecrate religion and hate Jews in the name of religion, which is just, it's just not good. You know, it's not helpful and they're getting money out of it. But what are we getting? The GOP is suffering. People now think that Erica killed Charlie. Like there are hundreds of thousands of videos with hundreds of thousands of likes on these topics that are just arsonite. And our real enemy should be the people who are trying to transition children. The people who want to have 2 year olds like Kathy Hochul fought to have 2 year olds masked for years after Covid. These are real developmental challenges that we're seeing in our country. Educational standards falling behind, the CDC lowering first talking first walking for babies. We should be focusing on that as a country and pushing those values forward. And these are all distractions from the real issues that we can change. We can't change the hate in people's heart. We can't change the last 2000 years of Israeli Palestinian history. What we can change is the future of this country. And none of these individuals who claim to be America first or putting anything forward about the future of the country.
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Buck Sexton
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Deborah Leah
Biggest year win one, I think has to be within the pharmaceutical department and Maha adjacent. But reducing the cost of insulin for diabetics to around $24 from like $300 plus. Unbelievable. I have a few friends who are diabetics. It has changed their life. While I don't personally necessarily believe or agree with ivf, that is another huge win in the medical field that Trump has done for all Americans. TrumpRx.com, i think that is hands down the biggest win. And the fact that there's no acknowledgement is pretty crazy because everybody's wanted free Medicare for all and cheaper drug prices. So I think most favored nation, lowering drug prices in our country will do so much good for America and reduce our health care costs. I think that's the best accomplishment aside from ending, you know, bringing the hostages home. That's kind of an obvious one for me. Ending the war between Israel and Gaza, that's amazing. It would never happen without President Trump. But overall, the biggest win for America has to be focusing on the health and well being of our country going into this upcoming year. I have felt, and I've said this to Trump, you know, I said this on Fox and Trump said he liked what I said and he's going to take the advice. But I felt like the first year was really focused on international politics, you know, trying to end the war with Ukraine and Russia, bringing the hostages home, bombing Iran, rightfully so. And I would really love to see this upcoming year not being treated as we're already waiting for 2028. I want some hard wins like we had in 2016. I want Trump to just come out swinging on everything for this country, the walls. Immigration has been pretty much zero, illegal immigrants coming in month to month, which has been great. But I really would love to see on the economy, it's been doing better than people say it is. But for young folks like myself, I really want to see something with taxes Happen Because I'm 25 years old, I'm saving up For a big future. I hope to have many children and children are expensive in this country. And I would love, and I think it's important because young people are very rallied around politics these days. For Trump to do something specifically that young folks like myself can feel in our bank accounts and, and what he has, the ability within Congress to pass is questionable. We'll see what happens in the midterms. I think we all know what direction that's heading, and it doesn't look too great for us right now. But I would really love Trump to focus on some young folks. The medical wins were great for the older folks, but to get Gen Z and Millennials rallied to the polls, we need to see. Yes, he went on the affordability tour, but that's kind of leftist talking points. I want to see tax breaks for the middle class and the upper class too, people, regardless of class. I want tax breaks for young folks so that we can save for our future. Like, there's Trump accounts for having babies. I think that's a good plan. And we should prepare Americans for financial literacy because Lord knows our education system has not been doing that.
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Buck Sexton
What is your top three all star team of the Trump Cabinet? Based on year one performance, not on expectations going in on accomplishments. Year one top Trump people, who are they and what do they do?
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Deborah Leah
Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio. He does every single job in the administration. But in all seriousness, Marco Rubio has been an incredible asset in the Trump administration. The way that he represents us on the world stage, I think he's really holding the White House together. And a lot of people recognize that. Every time I see a meme of him, I instantly like it. That meme format, that's probably the best thing to come out of the administration. But Marco Rubio has been fabulous. I'm really confident in his future political career in this country, and I would be happy to Support him. Number two, RFK Jr. I will be. I'll admit it. I didn't have the highest hopes going in. I believe in credentials. I would have loved an official doctor in that position originally. But after seeing the wins that Maha has delivered for this country, I am so grateful that RFK Jr. Is a part of this administration. And a number three, there's some really good ones this, and a lot of them are my friends. So I'm trying to like, you know, pass out the favor. But I think Brock Belcher, who may not be a more common name, he works within the new media and like the influencer space in the White House, I think he's done a fabulous job at making this the most transparent administration in human history. The new media seat, rotating, inviting a ton of young folks like myself and people with independent platforms to cover White House events. The media wouldn't even be let in under Joe Biden. So I think that that has been an incredible move by the administration and you can really feel it now, like we know what's happening. Biden, everything was behind closed doors and transparency is good for the American public. So those are my top three. I hope that we can rotate it a little bit going forward. And, and speaking honestly, because it's important that we call out our own side. I think there are two specifically women who can be replaced for much more skilled and adequate leaders who may also be women. It's not the fact that they're women,
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Buck Sexton
but as a woman made me feel so great. Snowman Bondi Yeah, they both. You're being honest. And they both. They both. They failed the test year one administration.
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Deborah Leah
Yeah, they've not only failed it, they have created so much bad priority. They have Kristi Noem As a woman who loves makeup and also loves ICE and immigration enforcement agents. I would never go full extension. There's optics is everything in politics and the optics for the Trump administration is the only thing that the left looks at. They don't look at the wins. They don't look at 365 wins in 365 days on the White House website. They're only looking at the optics. And he needs stronger people, more Susie Wiles around him who will keep low profile and just do everything to make
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Buck Sexton
his administration got to get the mission done. Deborah, Leah, great to have you on and we'll have you back again soon. And thanks so much for the work you're doing.
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Deborah Leah
Thank you so much for having me. I need to be healthy every day to survive it and go through the next chemo round and the next chemo round. So it's important that work was part of that to keep my mind busy for eight, nine hours. And then I had to go back and face the reality. I had a goal and the goal is to survive.
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Buck Sexton
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Deborah Leah
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