Buck Sexton (3:36)

You're listening to the Buck Sexton show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. What is going on with Marjorie Taylor Greene and Trump? I thought they were oh so close, but things not as close as they used to be over there. We will discuss with our friend Ashley Brassfield. She is a reporter at the daily caller in D.C. and she knows all the things happening on Capitol Hill, including this one. Ms. Ashley, good to see you again. What the heck is going on here? There was a time not long ago when mtg, she even had the three letter, you know the acronym, right? Aoc, mtg. MTG was like the queen of MAGA in the House of Representatives and now they're saying mean things about each other. What happened?

Ashley Brassfield (4:24)

Yeah, it's the political breakup of the year, I would say, with MTG and President Trump and yeah, so basically this all started back, I think what a lot of the reporting missing because we saw a 60 minute interview last night with her and I think they missed a lot of things. It wasn't just this all of a sudden explosion. It seemed there were things leading up to it. And I did a report on this and we looked into kind of like what happened from the beginning of the administration to now, really. And so What I found was, you know, we had the cabinet members coming out. Well, mtg, as we all know, a huge ally of President Trump. She actually never got an endorsement when she first read ran for Congress in Georgia's 14th district. I'm from that area, so I remember it very well. So she kind of left Congress the same way she came in without an endorsement from Trump, I would say. So what happened was, you know, they never, she never got a cabinet level. She stayed in Congress. She kind of headed the oversights Doge subcommittee, if you remember, when all that was going down, cutting all the waste, fraud and abuse. And so we kind of go on and that kind of phases out as Elon exits the administration at the time. And and now we're talking about Senate in Georgia, which was a huge race going on right now. And you know, I think it would be wrong. I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene in the state of Georgia, she's the, I would say head GOP female voice in the state. So why not consider it a center a senate race at the time. And from my reporting I found that she would. There was a polling that came out specifically from some people in the administration or you know, friendlies in that area and they kind of were trying, I guess, do her favor is what I've heard by showing her a poll saying she was not going to lose in the general election, showing her double digits down.

Buck Sexton (5:56)

So I don't wait, she was that she was going to lose. They showed her a poll saying you're going to get smoked basically.

Ashley Brassfield (6:01)

Ok, keep going by double digits. By double digits is what I'm hearing. So kind of doing a favor there so she doesn't have to get in the race, embarrass her. And I think she is seen as quite an ally in Congress. I mean, she's pretty influential voice. You kind of always are seeing, you know, the spat clips of her and Jasmine Crockett going on they talked about in the 60 Minute interview. And so, you know, I think that kind of was an upset right there a little bit. And that kind of left a wound in a way. So I think that's the first moment that you probably saw and I don't think it set well with her. So going on, you know, we saw some separation probably happen in the summertime over major issues started going on different, you know, podcasts, whether it be liberal media, conservative media. And so, you know, it was kind of, I think with immigration was one of the vocal things she was talking about. I mean, Epstein, I don't think we can forget about that. That was what the point was that they were trying to emphasize was the breaking point when she signed the discharge resolution with Thomas Massie, Lauren Boebert and Nancy Mace. So that was seen as a hostile act. And that was directly quoted from the White House at the time. So multiple issues that she separated from the president on. But, you know, I talked to a lot of people and there. This is. These are still issues we're talking about right now. And it is a question of, okay, did she see the puck before the admin admin did on things like affordability, the housing crisis going on in the country and kind of things that Gen Z are very, you know, hyped up on. And we're seeing some divides in the conservative movement, I would say right now.

Buck Sexton (7:27)

She was, yeah, she. I remember she was very fired up over the Epstein file stuff.

Ashley Brassfield (7:32)

Yes. Yeah.

Buck Sexton (7:33)

So she, she's been big on the Israel committed a genocide in Gaza thing, which I didn't see that one coming. How did that. Any background or any insight on that one that. That seemed to catch some of maga, I think, by surprise.

Ashley Brassfield (7:47)

Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I did hear, you know, I think some rifts were happening with Mike Johnson. You've seen that even with the least of phonics, which I've found interesting. But that issue, you know, Congress voted, I think, about 22 times on a resolution to, you know, take down anti Semitism. And I think there was growing frustration with that because, you know, it was just kind of this facade show that, oh, we just. We denounce anti Semitism and nothing was really getting done. So I think there was frustration there that it was continuously in her time in Congress being brought to the floor. And it was, it's, you know, you can denounce it, obviously, but 22 times, I think she was thinking maybe it was overkill. And there was frustration there because of the factors like affordability were not being considered at the time. And I know that's a buzzword for both sides, but, I mean, we see now President Trump's going on an affordability tour. So, you know, seeing that puck, I think, was the main thing there in that issue. But, you know, there was hostility, I would say, with the speaker. And that really came to an end with President Trump and her fighting. And also, I think another factor that's misguided here was the fact, you know, she would take shots at White House staff. And to a certain extent, she could continue to do that, not taking a direct shot at President Trump. But, you Know, these are people around the president. And also when it comes to deals like Argentino for specifically, you know, she. You can't criticize justice staff when he's the one that's, you know, his thing is negotiating. I would say.

Buck Sexton (9:07)

Yeah. I mean, you've got now the president. This is, this is for the New York Post today demanding an apology from 60 Minutes.

Buck Sexton (9:17)

And and also very upset with. So that's over the Hunter Biden laptop, which that that has not his positioning on that certainly hasn't changed. And fumed about outgoing GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene and called her a traitor in a truth social rant. He wrote the only reason Marjorie traitor brown green turns brown under. Wait, what? Under stress went bad, all caps. Is that she was jilted by the president of the United States. Certainly not the first time she has been jilted. I actually didn't see this until you came and joined here. Wow. Trump is very unhappy with her.

Ashley Brassfield (9:57)

Very unhappy. You know, I think everybody is expecting this feud to kind of come to an end eventually. And I'm not sure, you know, there's bad blood there. We saw Elon and him kind of make up in ways we but, you know, I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene, she supported Trump when he really didn't support her. So I think it is kind of a feeling of us being scorned in a lot of ways. And just kind of to give you some insight, I think there is. She's made some comments specifically at, you know, men and saying, you know, that they're weak men. And she won't say direct names are just a bunch of weak men in Congress. But, you know, to frame it as well for the state of Georgia, you have Governor Brian Kemp at the time, especially after the 2020 election, where you saw Trump and him feuding. And Marjorie Taylor Greene took Trump's side on that. So I don't think she's made a bunch of friends with people like Governor Kemp and even others that are in Congress that kind of have tried to get their way in Georgia. I don't think she's friends with a lot of them. So I think she's taking shots in that end. And I don't know how good of messaging that is, but I mean, that's a factor as well. I think it was a culmination of things. It wasn't simply Jeffrey Epstein and it blew up like that.

Buck Sexton (10:58)

We're to come back here and talk about something else on the political scene that I think is going to be getting a lot of attention. Ashley and that is that it looks like Jasmine Crockett is going to be running for Senate. That has just come out today. So this is something that we shall be talking about here momentarily. But in the meantime, our sponsors, Hillsdale College. Hillsdale College. It's fantastic. They've got all these amazing courses online that you can take for free that cover a whole range of topics. 40 plus online, free online courses. We got a course on CS Lewis, the book of Genesis, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic. But some of the stuff that's most well known are their courses on the American founding, the Constitution. This is great stuff for anybody, honestly, for those of you who are homeschooling, you got kids that you want to know more or you yourself want to brush up, Go online now to Hillsdale Edu Buck to enroll. That's Hillsdale Edu Buck. No cost, easy to get started. Hillsdale Edu Buck. Check out these free online courses from Hillsdale College. It is great stuff. All right, Ashley. Jasmine Crockett is seriously thinking that she is going to be able to run for Senate and people might vote for her. Tell me more about this.

Ashley Brassfield (12:15)

Yeah, you know, this is the state of Texas we're talking about. And it makes me laugh because I think the only one they thought had a chance was Beto o'. Rourke. And now you have kind of Jasmine Crockett, who is a very vocal voice in Congress. I think you would equate her into the AOC bubble, if anything, and talk about two people that spat a lot was Marjorie Taylor Green and Jasmine Crockett. But, you know, she's got this. She puts on these, you know, kind of facades. I feel like a lot of the time, you know, whether whatever room she's in, you know, I think if she's talking to a group of, you know, African Americans, she kind of puts on this sassy aspect about her and tries to appeal for them. But she, I think her education, if I'm correct, is a lot of higher up education. I don't think she came from a poor background, to say the least.

Buck Sexton (12:56)

So it's a fancy, A fancy private school is what, what you're referring to? Very, yes.

Ashley Brassfield (13:01)

And of course, law school as well. So that's not. That's not cheap either. So it's a little confusing to me how she would appeal to voters in Texas and specifically where it's a very red state, in my opinion. I think if you want to look at a candidate that might be a little bit more risky is this James Talarico individual from the Democrat side. I think he's trying to become a preacher. And he's, I think from Austin area. He's a state legislator, a state senator. He was on Joe Rogan. And I could tell from that interview. I kind of read it really soon after. I was like, he's gonna try and make a bit himself. So she's got to go up in the primary against types like him. You know, he's a white male, tries to say that he's, you know, going to be a preacher. He's got some stuff come out interesting enough about following only fans models. So it's. It's an interesting group.

Buck Sexton (13:46)

Is the guy that got down for following the only fans models or whatever. I don't know models is even really the word, but ye. Wow, okay.

Ashley Brassfield (13:54)

Yeah. Creators, whatever you want to call it.

Buck Sexton (13:57)

Yeah. Only fans something or others. That is a remarkable state of affairs.

Ashley Brassfield (14:02)

But another funny. Another funny thing about Jasmine Crockett, you have to remember too, that her most recent, I guess, you know, mistake in the media was her talking about Lee Zeldin getting a contribution from Jeffrey Epstein, but it was actually a Dr. Jeffrey Epstein in New York City. So that's what we're dealing with with Jasmine Crockett and, you know, trying to double down of, oh, we got to figure out who this guy is, instead of just saying, I got it wrong. You know, so that's the type of person Jasmine Crockett is.

Buck Sexton (14:27)

Well, you know that when she. When she got caught and. And everyone realized that this was. I mean, I spent a good chunk of time on radio talking about that story. I'm glad you reminded me of it. I went. I went back and. And I was finding, well, how. What's the cleanup that she's going to do on this? It'd be like, usually it'd be, oh, my staff. Right. Is my staff. She did throw the staff under the bus a little bit, but then she did. I didn't say it was that Jeffrey Epstein. She actually. She actually pulled the. I said Jeffrey. So.

Ashley Brassfield (14:56)

Yeah.

Buck Sexton (14:56)

Not wrong.

Ashley Brassfield (14:58)

Yes. And she always throws her staff under the bus. I mean, these are the people that have to carry her purse around. So in Congress, it's kind of well known within the Hill that she's kind of got that personality about her. But, yeah, I don't think it's going to sit well with Texas voters. I mean, it's a red state, and I know people worried about after a bunch of Californians, you know, move there after Covid, that it was going to turn blue. Well, not even beto o' Rourke can make it turn blue. So, you know, what is it? What are you gonna do?

Buck Sexton (15:24)

You know, there's a famous line in. Now that. You're way too young for this, but some of our listeners will know what I'm talking about. The show Cheers, where they have the guy, Cliff says he's on Jeopardy. And they ask. And the, the, the. The line is they're trying to find out who the people are. Like, he's, you know what the answer is? And he goes, three people who have never been in my kitchen. Is his answer.

Buck Sexton (15:48)

Technically true? Right. It's like, yeah. Who are the signers of the Declaration of Independence? Three people who have never been in my kitchen. You know, it's like Jasmine Crockett went with the. You know, I did say it was Jeffrey Epstein, and There is a Dr. Jeffrey Epstein. So she had, she had that going for her, which is nice.

Ashley Brassfield (16:05)

Yeah. You couldn't help but cringe. I mean, you have to. You have the two primaries you have to worry about. There's so many things happening in states all over the place, but even on the Republican side, you have corn and Paxton and Wesley Hunt dueling it out on that side. So I think that will be interesting. And even if she can survive the primary in Texas, that's, I guess, my next question. Are you.

Buck Sexton (16:22)

Are you following this Indiana redistricting thing at all, or is this too boring for you?

Ashley Brassfield (16:26)

No, I am. I know that the Republicans have about seven seats. The two seats are Democrats, and we're looking.

Buck Sexton (16:32)

Hold on. We're going to. Let's come back and. Let's come back and you can tell everybody, because I get people sending me, particularly Indiana listeners who are angry. They're like, what are you going to do about this? Well, first of all, I don't know what I can do about this, but.

Ashley Brassfield (16:43)

They'Re very upset doing something Buck.

Buck Sexton (16:45)

They're very. Do something Buck. I'm like, I will try, but we'll come back and we'll do that. Well, we'll talk about that a second. Our sponsor is Paradigm Press. If you've been listening to me for a while, you know, I don't just talk politics. I break down what it means for your life and even sometimes for your money. That's why I launched Money and Power. It's an independent venture, totally separate from what I do on radio here on the podcast. And I take everything that I know about politics and teamed up with a fantastic group of analysts who look at the markets and stocks and we make predictions and we have a portfolio. And you've trusted me for years, to tell you the truth. Now I want you to stay informed, stay prepared, stay ahead and find out ways to make money doing it. Join money in power today 82% off the regular price. Go to join Buck.com very easy website. Join Buck.com paid for by Paradigm Press OK, Ashley, Indiana, here's what's going on. State Senate GOP leader Roderick Bray mollified his stance on the likelihood of his caucus approving the new maps. So he has reiterated his opposition. Why is it that this is the question I get and you can try to help me answer this. Why is it that when Republicans can do things that will help Republicans, they find ways to be like, no, that's mean to the Democrats, like, why wouldn't they just do district to the maximum. GOP advantage.

Ashley Brassfield (18:02)

Yeah. And I think I did a piece on this a while back, you know, when it was specifically Talking about the Prop 50 going on in California as a, I guess Newsom trying to battle back against Texas is what he says. But I think historically Democrats have used an advantage. I mean, you look at Illinois with Pritzker and we saw that being a big issue during that fight itself. But I think you're right. I mean, this is going directly against what President Trump wants. And so they're taking a lot of heat from it is what I'm seeing. But you know, Indiana has seven Republicans, two Democrats, these two Democrat districts. I believe it's splitting Indianapolis, if I can remember correctly, into four segments. And that's kind of the blue district that they're worried about. But I guess what are the listeners I wanted to ask you, what are they so angry about? I mean, against the state leaders stance, going against it?

Buck Sexton (18:49)

Yeah, they just feel like, they feel like when, when you brought up Illinois, for example, you look at that map and it's laughable. Right? I mean, it's just meant to be.

Ashley Brassfield (18:57)

Right.

Buck Sexton (18:58)

They're just doing whatever they can. But somehow Republicans, when they have a clear field, they have the clear advantage. They're like, well, we don't want to do too much of what the Democrats do when it comes to redistricting. And I think people get pretty ticked off, especially when that's happening in red states, like those of us who are fighting it out in purple states, although Florida is pretty red now, fighting it out in purple states feel like if only we could do that here. So I think there's just a frustration that some people don't understand what time it is.

Ashley Brassfield (19:27)

Yeah, it's this I guess establishment thought process is my thought on it, I guess. And I agree. I think, I mean, you had people like Eric Holder, former attorney general for Obama, go to places like Alabama to fight a battle like this, and a lot of people don't remember that. But I mean, if you are looking at, you're looking at the House that's kind of on teetering right now, Red, going into the 2026 election due to retirements, special elections going on. So, I mean, this is the time to, you know, for Republicans to get ahead in this sense and to do what needs to be done on their end. I mean, Democrats have set the standard and the precedent in my opinion, in this case. So, I mean, you're right. I think there is an issue when, you know, state Republicans don't want to put their best foot forward and make the change. And I mean, I can understand why Republican voters have an issue with this.

Buck Sexton (20:14)

But always the case that some of some of the worst Republicans, and I actually will credit my friend Jesse Kelly with constantly pounding this drum, some of the worst Republicans you get an elected office are in the reddest states. You know, states.

Ashley Brassfield (20:26)

Yeah.

Buck Sexton (20:27)

Utah, Wyoming, they give us these Republicans and you go, wait a second, this is what the voters wanted in your state. But I think it's just, it's easy to get complacent and lazy when everyone around you is also a Republican.

Ashley Brassfield (20:39)

Well, make it a point, too, to realize, you know, these are the people you're putting in elected office. I mean, you got to understand the type of people that you're electing. And I say this all the time. I have a mug that says this mug works harder than Congress. And I mean, it's the people that you're putting into Congress that you have to worry about. And the type of people, if they're going to get things done and how they're going to act when they get up to D.C. and I think that's a high standard to hold because, I mean, it's a place where it's a swamp and it will kind of engulf you if you're not careful. So having a higher standard for the people you're putting in office, and that goes for state office, I think, as well. But, you know, the voters have to be more vocal about it. And, you know, we talked about this too, with illegal immigrants voting with the census. I believe JD Vance brought this up in an interview with Joe Rogan. And that's a huge issue itself, too, where, you know, the headcount within houses that are counting illegal immigrants. I mean, that's an issue that Republicans could be fixing right now. So it's not a repeat in the future.

Buck Sexton (21:29)

And yet Republicans, sometimes you wonder, do they even want to win? That's a question I get from people all the time. I'm like, depends on when you.

Ashley Brassfield (21:38)

Well, and that's that. I mean, what are Democrats doing right now? Right? And they're just kind of, you know, the party's in fighting currently with Republicans. I don't think Democrats, I think they have their own war going on with between the establishment and progressive. I think we talked about Grand Planter and Maine and you know, Chuck Schumer, the establishments types, they have their own battle going on right now. They can't decide which one they want to endorse, like mom Donnie, the more socialist type or the more establishment type like Chuck Schumer.

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Ashley Brassfield (23:14)

Yeah. On daily Caller website Ashley Brassfield and then on X brassfieldashley. And then Instagram ashleyebrassfield.

Buck Sexton (23:20)

Fantastic. Thanks so much.

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Could you be more specific when it's cravenient?

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