Buck Brief - Woke Snow White is One Giant Poison Apple

Summary

Summary of "Buck Brief - Woke Snow White is One Giant Poison Apple"

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Buck Brief - Woke Snow White is One Giant Poison Apple
Release Date: March 27, 2025

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Introduction

In the March 27, 2025 episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the recent underperformance of Disney's live-action adaptation of Snow White. Joined by guest Aaron Wexler, an internet personality formerly known as Non Libtake, the discussion centers around the cultural and political factors contributing to the film's disappointing box office results.

Snow White's Box Office Struggles

The episode opens with Clay questioning whether the failure of Snow White was inevitable due to the influence of the "Woke left" within Disney. He states:

"Was the Snow White disaster inevitable or was anything possible to salvage this given the Woke left Disney the disasters unfolding?" (04:43)

Aaron Wexler concurs, attributing the movie's lackluster performance to Disney's overemphasis on progressive agendas over storytelling:

"They are all tanking in the ratings because they just refuse to acknowledge that what they've been doing is actually pressuring people and force feeding them all this bs." (04:47)

Woke Influence and Casting Controversies

A significant point of contention discussed is the casting choices, particularly the decision to forgo hiring actors with dwarfism to play the seven dwarfs, opting instead for CGI characters. Clay critiques this move:

"So they use CGI dwarves, which to me is the worst possible option because I think CGI in general can ruin a movie." (05:27)

Wexler adds to the critique by highlighting the inconsiderate nature of replacing real dwarven actors:

"Like I just, I don't know where it ends with them." (06:02)

The hosts also discuss alternative casting ideas, with Clay suggesting Sydney Sweeney as a more believable Snow White. Wexler supports this notion, questioning the believability of Rachel Zegler's portrayal:

"Tell me what man is attracted to a woman who's perpetually complaining about everything." (06:15)

Broader Cultural Implications

The conversation extends to the broader impact of left-wing ideologies on Hollywood and media. Clay emphasizes the need for diverse cultural influences, mentioning the rise of platforms like Twitter (now X) under Elon Musk as potential avenues for right-leaning creators to tell compelling stories. He laments the lack of studios willing to produce content that audiences genuinely want:

"If you just told stories that people want to see, you would have a very successful business model." (08:10)

Wexler agrees, reflecting on how excessive progressive pressures have led to a decline in artistic quality and audience engagement:

"We need both liberals and conservatives in this world. We need that balance because there are things that we are better at and things that the left is better at." (08:38)

Transition to Signal Chat Leak Discussion

Shifting gears, the hosts address the ongoing controversy surrounding the Signal chat leak, where confidential communications were exposed. Clay questions the repetitive media focus on this incident:

"Why are we, when do we get to stop talking about the signal chat leak thing?" (10:35)

Analysis of the Signal Chat Leak

Aaron Wexler expresses frustration with the persistent media coverage, suggesting that the news cycle has stalled:

"I've been less active on X the last few days in general because I feel like there's just not so much going on." (10:44)

He criticizes the government's use of Signal for sensitive communications, pointing out the platform's anonymity as a vulnerability:

"It's really easy to add someone to a chat if it's just the initials... as someone who supposedly cares about the United States, you would just immediately tell them and remove yourself from the chat, right?" (14:36)

Clay echoes the sentiment, advocating for greater honesty and responsibility in handling such leaks:

"I just wish everybody would, you know, I don't know, I wish everybody would just be a little more honest in their assessments of these things." (14:36)

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with Clay reiterating the importance of authentic storytelling in media and the detrimental effects of ideological overreach. Both hosts emphasize the necessity for balance between liberal and conservative perspectives to restore quality and relatability in entertainment and communications.

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Notable Quotes:

• Clay Travis (04:43): "Was the Snow White disaster inevitable or was anything possible to salvage this given the Woke left Disney the disasters unfolding?"

• Aaron Wexler (04:47): "They are all tanking in the ratings because they just refuse to acknowledge that what they've been doing is actually pressuring people and force feeding them all this bs."

• Clay Travis (05:27): "So they use CGI dwarves, which to me is the worst possible option because I think CGI in general can ruin a movie."

• Aaron Wexler (06:02): "Like I just, I don't know where it ends with them."

• Clay Travis (08:10): "If you just told stories that people want to see, you would have a very successful business model."

• Aaron Wexler (08:38): "We need both liberals and conservatives in this world. We need that balance because there are things that we are better at and things that the left is better at."

• Clay Travis (10:35): "Why are we, when do we get to stop talking about the signal chat leak thing?"

• Aaron Wexler (14:36): "It's really easy to add someone to a chat if it's just the initials... as someone who supposedly cares about the United States, you would just immediately tell them and remove yourself from the chat, right?"

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and viewpoints presented in the episode, offering insights into the hosts' perspectives on cultural dynamics within Hollywood and the implications of recent political controversies.

Transcript

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[Clay]

Was the Snow White disaster inevitable or was anything possible to salvage this given the Woke left Disney the disasters unfolding? Let's get into it with Aaron Wexler, who is formerly known as Non Libtake, but I know now she is just Aaron Wexler, the one and only Internet personality. What is the preferred nomenclature now?

[Aaron Wexler]

I'm not sure. I really vacillate on this. I had a DC consulting friend recently suggest that I say I'm a strategic communications professional, which is a very DC consultant suggestion.

[Clay]

That person. Yeah, that. That person should. Should leave the. Leave the content suggestions to others. That is definitely not what we want to call you, but Aaron Weschler is here with us. Snow White, $34 million, $300 million budget looks 40 million in the first weekend, which is a disaster given the size of the budget. They wouldn't use dwarves. They put Rachel Wexler. I'm sorry, Rachel Zegler in your.

[Maria Konnikova]

Wexler.

[Clay]

Rachel Zegler in. What do you make of it?

[Aaron Wexler]

I think what we're seeing now is that they're finally realizing and it's movie after movie, failure after failure, just loss after loss where there was so much peer pressure that the left was able to put on us when it comes to this Woke nonsense. Right. They. You could force people in a corporation to sit through DEI training and, you know, even. And I'm sure you've had this, and we're both from New York, we have friends who are there where you're even in social conversations with people where the, the social pressure of everything from the left comes through in conversation. But at the end of the day, you just can't convince someone that something is funny or engaging or interesting. They just want to see a good movie. And that's where they failed with Snow White. That's why they keep failing. That's why the TV shows, the news, you know, mainstream media, that's why they, they're all tanking in the ratings because they just refuse to acknowledge that what they've been doing is actually pressuring people and force feeding them all this bs.

[Clay]

They stopped using actual dwarves in the casting, I think because Peter Dinklage of Game of Thrones fame made some comment like, oh, this is what we're doing. We're using dwarves to play dwarves. Which I can understand from the left wing intersectional woke perspective. Wouldn't it be dwarf appropriation to have a, a regular sized person or whatever the prefer, I don't know, whatever supposed to call play a dwarf. Like that's not good, right? So to have dwarves play dwarves, that's not good. So they use CGI dwarves, which to me is the worst possible option because I think CGI in general can ruin a movie.

[Aaron Wexler]

But yeah, no, that's a great point. I didn't think about how they used other people. You know, my famous dwarf out there, midget little person. I'm not sure what we're supposed to say. And I think he just doesn't want other people to get the same spotlight that he had the opportunity to rise in. And so I did tweet about this and I said he seems to me like a little man. That's what I think. But with the left, you can never win. It's never enough. Right. So even dwarves aren't allowed to play dwarves. Like I just, I don't know where it ends with them.

[Clay]

Clay, my co host has a suggestion that he thinks they should have put Sydney Sweeney in as Snow White. What do you make of this? And I'm going to tell Clay whatever it is that you say here. So I'm just curious.

[Aaron Wexler]

Well, that would have actually been more believable because right now we're supposed to believe that Gal Gadot is jealous of this wide eyed freak. You know, who is. I don't know. Tell me what man is attracted to a woman who's perpetually complaining about everything. Like forget, forget her looks for a second. Just the personality alone, that's enough to just turn off any man. But yeah, I think Sydney's. That would have been way more believable. I'm. I'm with Clay on this one.

[Clay]

Yeah, I said one of the problems in the movie is that when they look at. When you have Gal Gadot and she's doing, you know who is the most beautiful of them all? Rachel Zegler. So that's. That just. There's a, there's a believability gap here. I mean Gal Gadot is very pretty.

[Aaron Wexler]

Well, just goes to show this was actually a good actress because if she was able to, to look in the mirror and say who's the fairest of them all and pretend that as Rachel Zegler Maybe she really does deserve that star.

[Clay]

I really think that they're just. We've been talking about this for a long time on the right and, and how we, we need more influence in the culture. A while ago it was, we don't have a social media platform and now we do. Thank you, Elon. That is truly, you know, global and at scale. I know there's some others that are trying to build up as well. And there truth social. But with, with Twitter now X, there's something for social media that is not a province of the left, but in the, in the creative side of, of the equation or on the creative side of the equation. It. I just feel like it'd be so easy if you got a studio that was going to tell the kind of stories that people actually like. But here's an example. Taylor Sheridan, I know people love Taylor Sheridan, stuff on the right in particular, but I think in general he's got kind of mass market appeal. He's got a couple of cool ideas and then there's a lot of lazy writing and a lot of duplicative stuff. And, and it's actually not that well executed. I'm just being honest with people. Like the last season of Yellowstone was trash. Like, there's.

[Aaron Wexler]

I didn't even watch the last season. Yes, it got to that point.

[Clay]

So, so if you just told stories that people want to see, you would have a very successful business model. But I guess we, because we don't have Netflix, we don't have Amazon, none of the content makers and the people that greenlight this stuff want to go down this pathway yet. But I feel like it's going to break. I feel like eventually, you know, Elon's going to give Mel Gibson $1 billion and be like, go do your thing or something. I don't know.

[Aaron Wexler]

I was actually talking with a friend about this the other day, which is. We just, we do need to convince part of the left to just be normal because at the end of the, at the end of the day, I think we're very different. We, we need both liberals and conservatives in this world. We, we need that balance because there are things that we are better at and things that the left is better at and they've just gone so deranged that now nothing is enjoyable in the theater. But we want like the artsy liberal Hollywood type making movies. And they used to, you used to be able to be a normal liberal and produce great art, and now they've just gone too far away from that, probably because funding encouraged them to do that. We saw even the same thing in tech, all the funding for like, you know, fake green energy stuff. So we're seeing this across the board and I think as those incentives go away, people will just revert back to the mean. But I actually don't really want to encourage the right to get into this. I want to encourage the left to come back to that like normal standard deviation from the center of what most Americans are.

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[Aaron Wexler]

Yeah. I think honestly the news cycle has been really slow. I've been less active on X the last few days in general because I feel like there's just not so much going on. So people are really harping on this. So, yeah, I, I just, I made my final joke about it today on my story because I've just been enjoying joking about this because I think it's like I find the humor in everything. So I'm enjoying this. I just said, you know, message the girls group chat. Anyone want to bomb Yemen today? No replies. And I just think that's how I'm dealing with it, moving on. But I'm ready, I'm ready to move on from this. And we. Trump has. Trump had his response, which is he learned his lesson, we're moving on and I, you know, we just need to not let the left distract us. Although I, I guess I sort of played into that. But I just Enjoyed. I enjoyed the joke and everything, but it's time to move on.

[Clay]

So what are there. Do you have, like, salsa music going on in the background where you. Wherever you are. I mean, you're. You're a South Florida gal. So is that what's happening here? Because the. The viewers at home and listeners on the podcast are gonna be like, what. What is going on? Set. Set some of the scene here. Like, where. Where are the cool kids hanging out?

[Aaron Wexler]

I'm so sorry that my headphones are picking that up. We're in dire straits right now because someone is fixing my dishwasher in my apartment, so it's very noisy. But, yes, we are here in Miami, which is adjacent to the United States of America. And, yeah, we don't have to use our passports to cross over, but you think we would just to go up to Fort Lauderdale. You think they would check?

[Clay]

They said it is. The weather is. Is. Well, especially until you get. In the summer, the weather is great. A lot about South Florida, very much to. To be excited about. But did you see the video of a crocodile and an alligator fighting, comma. Did you know that South Florida is the only place in the world where alligators and crocodiles coexist in the same ecosystem, comma? And do you have a choice for who should win that battle, crocodile or alligator?

[Aaron Wexler]

Wow. I did not know that. I thought we only had gators down here. You're telling me. So my question is, which one do you run in zigzag from? And which one do you punch in the nose or is punching in the nose the sharks? That's what you do.

[Clay]

No, no, you want to run. You want to run from. From gators and from crocs. Crocs are more. Are notoriously more aggressive toward people and more territorial than gators.

[Aaron Wexler]

Was this in the Everglades or was this in an urban area where the alligator and croc were duking it out?

[Clay]

It was like in someone in Fort Lauderdale's backyard, which is why I brought it up to you. Like, there's a video.

[Aaron Wexler]

Yeah, no, I did. I did not see this. I've seen my fair share of iguanas. And, you know when it gets really cold in the winter? There was that years ago. They fall. They fall, and it's very dangerous. It's not a joke, but it is funny.

[Clay]

Yeah. You know, coconuts are also a danger around here. They fall from the trees and they hit people. You have to be careful.

[Aaron Wexler]

I've never seen that, but I have on multiple occasions almost run over in. IGUANA which is a very South Florida experience.

[Clay]

They are. It's funny because, you know, here we in New York, it was on the streets, you had pigeons and rats and. And here it's lizards. And I must say, I do prefer the lizards. Little lizards everywhere. The lizards, they just eat bugs. They don't bother me. You know, they don't really carry disease from what I know of. So I'm just trying to give South Florida some credit on this one. I think the, the switch up for lizards instead of like giant subway rat. That's a, that's something we can get behind. I didn't know we were going to get into zoology today on the podcast, but I just took us in this direction because I figured, I figured, why not? It is the slowest newsweek of the Trump era, of the Trump administration, I think, so far, which is why they're able to pound this Signal story so much. And like, oh my gosh, like all the war plans, like, we bombed, we bombed the sites we wanted to bomb in Yemen. You know, they're not going to do it again. Somebody screwed up on the chat. This stuff can happen. It's not good, non intentional. And I just wish everybody would, you know, I don't know, I wish everybody would just be a little more honest in their assessments of these things.

[Aaron Wexler]

But I agree, especially when, you know, when you know how Signal works. Ben Shapiro was talking about this and I thought it was a very good point that if someone doesn't have to put their full name on their Signal handle, and I'm not really excusing this, I'm actually personally pretty shocked that the government is conducting these types of messages on Signal. I don't know that that's necessarily the place for these things to happen. But either way, they assess that this was safe enough. And so they're on Signal talking about things that are obviously not the war plans themselves, but just communicating generally. And it's really easy to add someone to a chat if it's just the initials, because you can just be in Signal in a more anonymous way where all you would see is those, those two initials that would be similar to someone else they were trying to add in the chat, but also like you're lurking there waiting for them to make a mistake. If I were accidentally added to a chat like that, I would immediately message someone saying, I think I'm. I was put in this chat accidentally. You know, like, I've gotten messages from friends, I'm sure you have too, where they're between two messages and they send you something like a link and you say like, or an address or whatever it is and you say, I think that was meant for the other person you're talking to. So it's weird that he was just lurking, waiting to see if they would mess up. Because as someone who supposedly cares about the United States, you would just immediately tell them and remove yourself from the chat, right?

[Clay]

Yes, I would. I would think so. We'll leave it there for this one. Aaron Wexler, however, go follow her on on the the Instagram. I'm forgetting what these things are called. Instagram.

[Aaron Wexler]

She's got a huge following on the Instagram. Very Buck.

[Clay]

Yeah, on the Instagram. She's great on the Instagram. Great on the Instagram. Probably some people are saying fabulous Instagram. She's doing great work there. And thank you for coming to hang out and we'll talk to you soon.

[Aaron Wexler]

Thanks so much. Buck.

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Hey Clay, if there was a summer camp for critical thinking, we'd be the chief counselors. Those jelly heads in June would be intellectual warriors by August. Be a lot of fun too. Some Bill and Ted's excellent adventure references thrown in this podcast like a daily dose of that. Minus the campfires, archery and pranking the girls. The bonafide boot camp for critical thinking. You can get in on it for free at the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Just search our names. Play and Bach. Listen and subscribe.

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[Aaron Wexler]

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