Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 10 2026

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Daily Review with Clay and Buck – April 10, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Date: April 10, 2026

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode, led by Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, dives into the top stories in U.S. politics, global affairs, and culture—with their signature mix of pointed analysis and witty banter. Central themes include the high-stakes U.S.-Iran negotiations in Pakistan, the economic and political implications of oil prices, shifting American birthrates, and lively commentary on cultural trends like sports fandom and changing family dynamics. Data expert Ryan Girdusky joins to break down polling and demographic trends, and the hosts reflect on the emotional significance of sports for men. The show balances hard news with accessible conversation, appealing to listeners seeking both information and humor.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

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1. U.S.-Iran Negotiations in Pakistan

[Begins ~00:20]

• VP J.D. Vance leads negotiations aiming to reopen the vital Strait of Hormuz and deescalate tensions.
• Buck is skeptical about progress, suggesting Iran is “playing a delay game” using oil for leverage:

  “There’s not going to be a deal. There’s going to be a deal to continue figuring out what the deal looks like. This is Iranian bob and weave… This is exactly what they have been doing all along.” – Buck (03:25)

• The Strait remains largely closed (only ~10% of normal traffic), primarily for Russia and China, with possible under-the-table arrangements hinted.
• Clay raises the economic angle: high oil prices enjoy mixed reception in the U.S. now that America is a net exporter; certain energy stakeholders (especially in Texas) potentially benefit from sustained higher prices, unlike the 1990s.
• Texas oil producers' perspective: they stand to gain at $100/barrel but struggle when prices fall to $50–60.
• The conversation also touches on how CA’s “green” ideals contrast with their heavy dependence (29%) on oil imports from Hormuz.
• Both hosts agree the U.S. goal should be an open strait, but Clay spotlights a shifting calculus:

  “There is a little bit of a disconnect between what the average consumer thinks the price of oil and gas should be and what oil and gas producers think... Now we're net exporters.” – Clay (06:05)

Notable moment: Clay humorously invites Texas oilmen to call in and share their views—“extra points if your name is Tex!” (13:57).

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2. Political Impact of Oil Prices & Iran Conflict

[Ryan Girdusky joins at 16:20]

• Ryan explains Trump’s base originally supported the Iran conflict, but as gas prices climbed, opposition spiked. Among “MAGA” self-identifiers, support remains high, but “whites without a college degree”—core Trump voters—have become majority opposed, primarily due to economic pain from inflation.

  "Opposition has climbed over 55% in almost every poll now, especially because of gas prices and inflation." – Ryan (19:00)

• Discussion on the “political shelf life” of the Iran issue: Buck suggests news cycles move fast; Ryan contends that if high prices disrupt summer travel, voter resentment could last into fall elections.

  “Gas being $4 a gallon is going to really tamper on their summer plans, make it a lot harder to go on vacation... That will be absolutely impactful.” – Ryan (21:27–24:51)

• Clay notes even brief surges in gas prices have lasting psychological and economic effects—anger can linger “two to two and a half months”; local prices (e.g., Alaska, Maine) may swing key Senate races.

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3. America’s Collapsing Birth Rate & Cultural Demographics

[Second half with Ryan: 28:15–33:47, revisit at 35:13–52:10]

• Clay frames the falling U.S. birth rate (now approx. 1.5 per woman) as an “existential threat” overshadowing climate change.

  "Babies are a vote for the future. I really do believe this." – Clay (28:48)

• Ryan interprets new CDC data: U.S. decline mirrors global trends; enforcement on immigration under Trump has sharply reduced immigrant births (double-digit drops among all major origin countries).
• Most dramatic fall: Black American birthrates fell below white rates for the first time. The main causes:
  • 90% reduction in teen pregnancy since the ‘90s
  • Surge in college attendance among Black women—delaying or reducing childbearing

  "[Black women] drop-off is down nearly double digits every single year as a percentage... a true cultural phenomenon happening right now." – Ryan (31:57)

• Data also shows women in their 30s now comprise the bulk of new moms, but delayed first births mathematically diminish the odds of “replacement-level” fertility.
• Ryan quotes: “Rarely are you a celebrity who has their first kid at 45 years old. If you want to have children, you should plan for that early...” (33:16)
• Clay and Buck reflect on cultural messages: the pursuit of career and “girl boss” empowerment sometimes sells women a “bill of goods” about postponing family formation.
• Buck notes men’s and women’s dating and biological timelines are fundamentally different, leading to regrets in later years when career priorities have delayed marriage/children.

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4. Potential Solutions, Science, and Cultural Commentary

• Buck speculates on a surprising future “Ozempic baby boom,” arguing new weight-loss drugs (GLP-1s) could increase fertility by improving health and libido in both sexes:

  “GLPs are the most important health revolution of the 21st century, in my opinion. And also I think are going to help with the baby boom.” – Buck (41:09)

• Clay's practical, if controversial, advice: societal fulfillment via parenting is often greater than mid-level corporate career achievement, yet cultural messaging undervalues this.
• The hosts humorously discuss the medical term “geriatric pregnancy” for pregnancies after age 35, and how women are now rebranding it to “advanced maternal age” (44:38–54:46).

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5. Sports Fandom, Emotional Outlets & Gender Roles

[52:10–66:59]

• Clay and Buck shift into a lighter segment, using a comedy clip (Peter Ravello on sports talk radio) to reflect on why sports are such an emotional outlet for men:

  “Sports are so many men’s emotional outlet, right. If you see a guy screaming at the television... it’s not always just about what’s going on on the screen.” – Clay (52:48)

• Both cite Rush Limbaugh's commentary: sports allow men to “invest total passion without consequence”—a safe space compared to the risks of romantic/personal entanglements.
• Clay relates his experience as a sports radio host during COVID-19, describing the genre as “therapy” for men facing life stressors—a “form of love language.”

  “A huge portion of the conversations that I have with the men in my family is sports related. It’s a form of love language for men that is not defined in that way.” – Clay (65:00)

• Buck muses that small talk, sports, and shared interests (like SEC football) all help men create essential community bonding.

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6. Cultural Commentary on Modern Dating & Gender Roles

[44:56–49:18]

• Both hosts agree: men can “buy time” in the marriage/parenting market, but women face unavoidable biological constraints.

  “You can be a guy and say I want to work 90 hours a week in my 20s and 30s... and then at 45 you can decide, hey, I want to get married.” – Clay (49:18)

• Buck and Clay suggest that high-performing women who pursue grueling career paths sometimes discover, too late, that those credentials don’t aid in the “dating marketplace.”
• “I think a lot of women have been lied to about that. Men will make these tradeoffs [enduring hard jobs for status], but the timelines are different.” – Buck (48:23)

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

• Buck, on the Iran talks:
  “If the Strait is not open right now, what exactly have we gotten in the ceasefire? ... The Strait is not open right now, and no one seems to want to talk about that.” (05:54)

• Clay, on conflicting oil interests:
  “The calculus has changed when it comes to America as a net exporting country... When oil and gas prices go up, Europe becomes a victim, China becomes a victim, not us.” (14:05)

• Ryan Girdusky, on political risk:
  “Gas prices are going to be really hindering him, as they have every previous president. Even if you have an electric car, you see gas prices wherever you go.” (21:27)

• Ryan, on shifting birthrates:
  “Among people who say they are MAGA Republican, it is around 90% [support for Trump]. Among whites without a college degree... opposition has climbed over 55%...” (19:00)

• Clay, summing up birth rate anxiety:
  “If this does not reverse, then humanity starts to decline in population, really, really fast.” (35:13)

• Buck, on the side effects of GLP-1 drugs:
  “You’re more likely to want to get frisky if you are at a healthier weight…There could be something of an Ozempic baby boom, if you will.” (41:09)

• Buck, on modern dating:
  “Women felt a little lied to by the culture that professional success at some level would make them desirable mates. … the truth is the guy working as a gas station attendant and the CEO of the Fortune 100 company kind of looking for a lot of the same things.” (45:59)

• Rush Limbaugh (audio clip), on sports and emotion:
  “The beauty of sports ... is the one thing you can invest total passion without consequence. Try that with a woman!” (62:58)

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TIMESTAMPS OF IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:20 | Show introduction and preview of Iran talks, Artemis landing, and birth rate crisis | | 03:17 | Buck’s skeptical analysis of Iran negotiations, “Iranian bob and weave” | | 06:01 | Discussion of oil producers vs. consumer interests, U.S. as net exporter | | 13:54 | Analysis of the pressure on the U.S./Trump regarding Strait of Hormuz | | 16:20 | Ryan Girdusky joins – polling impacts of gas prices and the Iran conflict | | 19:00 | Changing MAGA core support due to economic issues | | 21:27 | How long political damage from high gas prices can last | | 28:15 | Shift to demographic collapse: U.S. birthrate, replacement level, Trump/immigration | | 29:01 | Black American birthrates fall below whites – cultural ramifications | | 33:47 | Data on delayed childbearing, long-term effects on population replacement | | 35:13 | Discussion resumes: demographic crisis in U.S., China, Japan, and Europe | | 40:06 | Ozempic/GLP-1 drugs and their surprising role in sex drive/fertility | | 44:38 | “Geriatric pregnancy” and shifting cultural messages about career vs. family | | 45:59 | Buck and Clay reflect on women’s dating/career tradeoffs | | 52:10 | Comedy bit on sports talk radio as male therapy; Limbaugh’s sociological view | | 54:46 | Cultural critique: women’s career/family expectations, redefining “AMA” | | 62:58 | Limbaugh quote on sports fandom: “invest total passion without consequence” |

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CONCLUSION

This rich, engaging episode of Clay and Buck offers listeners a crash course in the interplay between world events and everyday lives—from global oil politics to the very personal questions of career, marriage, and family. It pairs pointed, sometimes provocative analysis with plenty of humor and relatable stories. Whether discussing the future of fertility or why men scream at the television on game day, Clay and Buck create a “whole vibe,” mixing the urgent with the entertaining. For anyone interested in where America’s culture and politics are headed, this episode is a thorough, lively must-listen.

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Welcome in Friday Edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you who are hanging out with us. Let's have some fun and get you guys in informed on a variety of different stories as we head into what should be a great weekend Masters action underway. For those of you who are golfers, it is an official sign for many parts of the country that spring has sprung. We will give you the absolute latest on the US Iran situation. Artemis 2 scheduled for a splashdown landing off the coast of San Diego. Our buddy Ryan Garduski going to join us at 1 to talk about a bunch of different topics, including this data coming out that nobody's having babies anymore, which is frankly kind of alarming. Much of Western civilization, the population is collapsing. Nobody really to a large extent is talking about it. The existential threat to America and the world it likely is turning out is not going to be climate change or global warming. It's going to be a bunch of people just deciding not to have babies and the population collapsing as a result. We will talk about all that and more, but we begin with the biggest news, which is high stakes negotiations that are poised to take place in Pakistan over the weekend. And Vice President J.D. vance is leading that charge. And he took off earlier today, I think it was actually maybe even last night for the Iran negotiations in Pakistan. And this is what he said right before he got on the plane to begin that trip cut for we're looking forward to the negotiation. I think it's going to be positive. We'll of course see, as the president United States said, if the Iranians are willing to negotiate in good faith, we're certainly willing to extend the open hand. If they're going to try to play us, then they're going to find that the negotiating team is not that receptive. So we're trying to have a positive negotiation. The president has gave us some pretty clear guidelines and we're going to see. All right, so update on the markets. The Dow down a small amount. S p500 when I last checked up a small amount, not a lot of movement. Oil and gas has stabilized, dropped substantially during the course of this week and as since kind of dot danced around that hundred dollar mark. Buck, are you optimistic at all for these negotiations that are going to take place in Pakistan? What do you expect if anything? Let's predict if we were coming back on Monday. What does our conversation look like with these negotiations, in theory, beginning on Saturday? I think I answer already, but I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna allow you to Debbie Downer us all as we begin the program here on a beautiful spring Friday.

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I cannot tell a lie. As you all know, there's not going to be a deal. There's going to be a deal to continue figuring out what the deal looks like. And this is Iranian bob and weave. This is float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Middle east style. This is exactly what they have been doing all along. I. And I'm going to say this. I. I am, I guess, obviously pessimistic about the chance of this being negotiated to a conclusion, but I am hopeful. And this is one of these ones where I would love it. It will. I will be smiling ear to ear on this show and taking the proverbial paddle and saying, thank you, sir. May I have another? If I'm wrong on this one, some of you will catch the reference to Animal House. It is absolutely the case that the Iranians. I think I should say it in my view, is absolutely the case that the Iranians view this as now a delay game, and they're using the price of oil and our political considerations as their leverage. Clay, the Strait of Hormuz is not open. That was the big thing here. It's a little open. It's a little open. It's not open. I think they're saying 10% of the expected traffic through Hormuz is going through. And guess who's getting waved on through Russia, China, friendlies to Iran. And they may be paying crypto. They may be paying tolls we don't even know about. Just to be clear about this. I don't think that's happening. I think Russia and China would be like, you really don't want to mess with us, too. But. But who knows, right? Who knows? So I am hopeful that this is J.D. vance and Jared Kushner, shining moment. Now, what may happen is the deadline will pass in two weeks. We start bombing them again for a few days. We have press conferences from the Pentagon saying, look at how much we can kick their ass. And then we go, okay, another ceasefire. You guys want to talk? And the Iranians like, oh, fine, fine, we're willing to talk, and so on and so forth. And again, like I said, I am hopeful. I am wrong on this one. But I do not see, Clay, if the straight is not open right now, what exactly have we gotten in the ceasefire and the strait is not open right now and no one seems to want to talk about that.

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I will think this is all that was.

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That was Debbie Downer to the max, wasn't it? That was on a Friday.

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Look, I think the number one thing is the Strait of Hormuz being officially open and Iran eliminating its desire potentially to, to blow up freighters filled with oil. Here's something I don't hear anybody talking about, and this is not Debbie Downer. This is Debbie Realistic. There's a lot of big time Trump donors that are thrilled with what the price of oil and gas is right now. So think about this. If you are, and there are a bunch of Texans listening to us right now, if you are in Texas, you are thrilled with what the price of oil and gas is right now. $50 a barrel, it's hard to make money. $60 a barrel, there's tiny little profit margin, $100 barrel of gas. There are people that are going to be having champagne toast going on while they kick back and watch the Masters all over Texas this weekend. As long as these prices remain higher. The reason why I bring it up is there is a little bit of a disconnect between what the average consumer thinks the price of oil and gas should be and what oil and gas producers think the price of oil and gas can be. And the calculus on this is very different than it was in the 1990s when we had to import all of our oil and gas into this country in order to be able to take care of everything. Now we're net exporters. And, and so, so it's a different kind. So I'm just.

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Wait a minute.

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Hold on, hold on. So this is. Do you think Trump doesn't want the straight. You're saying there are a lot of Trump donors who want the gas price high, so they like this congestion. Are you saying Trump doesn't want the straight open? I'm a little confused now.

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Well, I'm saying I'm not sure that the strait being 100% open is a universal goal of every part of the.

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Sure. But what's Trump's goal?

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Trump's goal, I think is to get oil and gas down to. There's a bit of dispute over this for a while. He thinks the ideal price is $50 a barrel. The. The Texas guys. Maybe some of you can call in

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and I was going to say, can we get somebody to put your Stetson down for a second here? Pick up your phone, Texans who work in oil and gas, and let us know what's going on.

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Yeah, actually, I would love that. You don't have to give us your official designation, but if you are listening to us right now and you are involved in American oil and gas, here's another point, Buck.

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Yeah.

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You don't have to call in and say, my name is John Smith. I'm a senior VP at Exxon. I work in this office. You can just call and be like, this is John.

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I know what I'm talking about. And I just bought a Picasso because in the last month I made an extra $100 million because a barrel of gas doubled. But I do think this, here's another stat book that, that I was reading. I've been doing a bunch of research on oil and gas because I'm, I'm fascinated by this entire industry. You know, that California, which is trying to say, hey, we're all into clean oil and gas and we're, we're going to be the green New. You know that 29% of California's gas is imported according to the Wall Street Journal and comes through the Strait of Hormuz, infinitely more than any other state in the United States. Did you know this? I had no idea. It's a tiny percentage of oil and gas that ultimately ends up in the United States that transits through the Strait of Hormuz. California, I believe. I'm going to pull up that stat and I'll. We'll share that article I was reading. California imports about 29% of its overall oil and gas from the Strait of Hormuz. So right now, if you are listening to us in California, your entire basis for the Green New Deal and everything else, in addition to the fact that you have to pay way more to fill up your cars and your trucks, which is infuriating, I would imagine. But Buck, they are actually bringing in the California dollars, are actually going to these Middle Eastern countries as opposed to staying here at home because California has tons of oil. But they're not deciding to me about

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the oil markets and everything. And it's very interesting. And you know, you really also could run a stock market. Like, you're very into this stuff. You could be sitting there with Kramer. I honestly think you're probably better than Kramer. No offense. Actually, no offense to Kramer.

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You could be doing wrong on everything. If I'm just right about a little bit, I could probably do better.

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But on this issue of where we are with ending the Iran war, not how people in Texas may feel about it, if they happen to have a lot of shares of Exxon or Texaco or whatever. I know there's been all these mergers. I can't remember. Does Trump feel good about where things are right now? Do you think that the administration feels like this is where things are supposed to be? I checked this morning, 10%. There are thousands of ships that are still bottled up. 10% of the Strait traffic is happening. And Iran is claiming now the right for national security purposes to inspect and deter any ships coming into the strait that it wants.

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No, he wants the strait to be clear and open. And I do think that the overall precedent being set of open bodies of water, which is a global trade perspective position, should not be able to enact tolls. Right. That's different than the Panama Canal or something. That is a man made shipping creation where you certainly are extracting tolls. That's the basis for it. Just like a toll road versus an interstate that's paid for. The idea is that this has to be going through. What I am saying is I do think the politics of this is actually a bit more complicated and maybe the pressure is different versus an individual filling up their oil and gas. And the Texas oilman out there, we got loaded lines from the Texas oil men who are saying this is actually incredibly good. And it's a different calculus when much of the money is still coming into this country, when we benefit in some ways from a corporate perspective on higher oil and gas prices and they want to drill more when prices go up. Now this is just big picture. It's hard to get more oil and gas drilling done when there's $50 a barrel because it's hard to make money. And at $100 a barrel, they make way more money. I would bet that the capacity that could be dialed up in the United States is substantial at those dollar figures. I just don't hear anybody talking about the fact that the calculus has changed when it comes to America as a net exporting country of this is a tremendous success story compared to when we had to bring everything else in. A lot of those dollars on oil and gas now stay in America and actually can provide fuel, no pun intended, in a positive direction for the economy. Now the downside is obviously individual consumers have to pay more. But if you look at it on an inflation adjusted basis, oil and gas is one of the greatest buys that exists anywhere in the world. We pay far less now on an inflation adjusted basis. You know, oil and gas I believe is cheaper than bottled water.

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Again, I find all this, and I mean this, I'm not, I would never be supercilious when you're doing your financial. I find all this deeply interesting. We stopped bombing them so they would open the straight and the strait's not open.

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This is the.

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This is the fundamental problem.

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I agree. In general, what I'm saying is I'm not sure that the political pressure is as intense on this issue as maybe the general population.

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Then the strait doesn't need to be open.

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Well, I think it needs to be open eventually. But if it ends up eventually opening in a month, I think that there's a lot of oil and gas people in Texas that would say, hey, that's fine.

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So the pressure valve isn't as tight as one.

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That's my argument.

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I got you. Okay, interesting.

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And I may be wrong, but I want to hear from the Texas guys and gals.

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What are the chances one of them is actually named Tex?

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By the way, extra points if you

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call and you're like, I've been an oil man for 40 years. My name's Texas.

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I think the oil and gas guys are going to say, clay, you're the only person who's actually made this argument in anywhere in media because it is a different calculus than it was in the 90s. And I think not Surprise, a lot of media have not caught up with what oil and gas independence and us being a net exporter actually means when oil and gas prices go up. It used to be we got entirely gouged and we were the victims. Now we are actually having a great deal of success. China arguably becomes a victim. The Europe becomes a victim. The countries that are not energy independent. This is actually what Trump has been arguing for so long, we had to create it. So just in general and oil and gas guys, y' all can tell me if I'm totally wrong on this or if you're saying hallelujah, somebody's trying. Finally pointing out that things are a bit different than they have been in the past. When Rapid Radio is first introduced. Modern day walkie talkies, the kind that connect to anyone anywhere in the U.S. guess what? Buck and I, we were early adopters. Our families were early adopters. And we were lucky because when catastrophe hit, we've been able to stay in touch with our families nationwide. Reviews coming in are outstanding. You guys love this company. One customer wrote, these radios work everywhere. Another writes, we bought them for our family and now everyone carries one. Peace of mind alone is worth it. That's why we have Rapid Radios communication coast to coast, unlimited range. Go online to rapidradios.com right now they're including over $300 in free gear with your order including a tactical tactical radio bag, USB charger, EMP Faraday bag plus every order includes a 30 day money back guarantee. Go to rapid radios.com use code radio for 5% off free shipping from Michigan when you need to be heard no matter where or when. Go to rapidradios.com Rapid Radios Communication Redefined News, politics, sports and a little fun thrown in too. Clay and Buck. It's a whole vibe with Verbo care. Help is always ready before, during and after your stay. We've planned for the plot twists, so support is always available because a great trip starts with peace of mind.

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Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Our numbers guy, the data guru of Clay and Buck world, Ryan Gardusky, is with us now. It's a Numbers Game is his podcast, which many of you have been listening to on the Clay and Buck network. I know that because I get to see the numbers special secret sauce. And Ryan, your podcast is doing phenomenally well because it turns out people like to know the real data, the facts, the figures, the what's going on in politics and you explain it so very well and do such good analysis of it. So congratulations on that.

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Appreciate it. Thank you for giving me this opportunity. I really, really appreciate. I try really hard to make sure that everyone is as well informed as I am.

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Well, absolutely. And this is the thing. If you give Ryan your time, I'm just really going to give him a plug. If you give Ryan your time, you listen to the numbers game, you're going to know more than when you started listening and you're going to know more than a lot of people who think they know a lot about politics, which is this is always. I used to tell Ryan this too. I was like, why do I want to work with Ryan? Why do I have him on as a guest? Because he's one of the rare guests who calls in or joins who teaches me things about politics. You know, I got a lot of people like I'm a political consultant. I'm like, well, that guy knows nothing. Ryan knows a lot. So there's a lot of that, as you know, out there. Yeah, yeah. So let's we want to talk about this birth data situation, which you did a piece on recently for your substack, which is also excellent, the national populist newsletter. But first, what is the truth about support for this Iran situation? I'm sure you've been crunching these numbers, too. Some people say all of all of Republicans are behind Trump. Other people say his Numbers are in the toilet nationally. What's really going on?

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Yeah, the numbers are very bad. I mean, for Republicans. And I said this time and time again, no one was going to care so long as it didn't affect them at home because they just naturally trust Trump. But the thing is, now that gas prices have soared, the numbers have tanked. What you're referencing is, how does MAGA feel? I don't like that question in polls because there's nothing to identify if you are a MAGA Republican or not, aside from you saying so. So I could look at your voter file and say, you're a man, you're between this ages, you live in this area, yada, yada, yada. And that will be a quantifier to say, okay, this person is actually, you know, telling their details but themselves correctly. And we could probably wait the poll. You could be a MAGA Republican today and not a MAGA Republican tomorrow and Split your opinion 10 times over. It basically says, do you or do you not support the president? And among people who say they are MAGA Republican, it is around 90% among most of these polls. What you want to look for, though, is other indicators of likely Trump voters and how they feel. So among Republicans and among people who voted for Donald Trump, opposition or undecidedness, that's the other thing I look for, is if you're undecided about your opinion about it. That has slowly been climbing. It was around 12 to 13% according to the NPR and Washington Post poll back in March 1st when this whole conflict began. By the time you get to the Fox poll and other and other polls since then, like the Quinnipiac poll, that number climbs about 26%. Right. Among Trump's most loyal voting bloc, which is whites without a college degree. Whites without a college degree supported this war very beginning by double digits in some polls, around 55, 56%, according to CNN, the Washington Post and other ones there that support among that demographic, the most important demographic of the Republican coalition. Opposition has climbed over 55% in almost every poll now, especially because of gas prices and inflation. And once again, there's a lot of anxiety about the economy. And anytime Trump talks about foreign policy and gives a lot of emphasis, voters feel that he's not paying enough attention about the economy, which is what they are concerned about.

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Ryan, it wasn't very long ago that Democrats were saying Minneapolis is going to be the story for midterms. No one talks about Minneapolis anymore. I haven't heard Alex Peretti or Renee Good's name In forever. I think it was ultimately a sign of just how quickly our news cycle can move. I don't know when we're going to get a resolution with Iran. I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be, but I feel like it will likely happen in the next couple of months, presuming that that occurs. If we get to June, July, August, which is kind of the summer season, where people tune out, and Trump has managed to turn the conversation back domestically, do you really think in September, October, November, again, if we get some resolution by Memorial Day, which I think we will in Iran, do we really think that we're going to still be talking about the situation in Iran? I get that it's bad for Trump if it still is a story, but I just feel like stories come and go so quickly that the reason they made the decision to attack on February 28 was because they knew by the summer they could pivot back to domestic affairs. And whatever we thought were going to be the big stories for this year, they're just gone and kind of in the waste bin.

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So as long as gas prices go down, because that's contingent. One, people want to go on summer vacation, they want to go to the beach, they want to go on holidays. Gas being $4 a gallon is going to really tamper on their summer plans, make it a lot harder to go on vacation, have, has, have residual effects on the economy. That will be a negative. Right. Also, the thing about gas prices, it's a, it's a, you see a gas price every four blocks wherever you travel in this country. It is an indicator of inflation. He really needs gas prices to go down, whether that be a gas tax holiday, whether it be more domestic, you know, reducing our petroleum reserves, whatever the case may be, gas prices are going to be really hindering him, as they have every previous president. Even if you have an electric guitar. Electric, sorry, guitar. Electric car. You have electric car, you see gas prices no matter where you go, and you're like, wow, that's very, very high right now. That just shows inflation. And what we saw among latest jobs and wages numbers that came out today is that it's because the inflation jumped. With gas prices increasing the wage, the growth in income is being eaten away at higher inflationary costs because of gas prices. So gas prices.

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Ryan, can I just have to jump

[C]

in really quickly then?

[A]

Clay, I think, has a real question for you. But your point about electric cars, not necessarily true. Because when Clay drives by people in his Tesla and sees the price of gas, he says, haha, peasants.

[B]

Well, to be fair, as with all things, I cover both ends of the spectrum here. I have both a Tesla, which I love, and I would encourage everyone to buy and I'm not being paid anything for it, although we should be paid honestly. We need to talk to Elon this. We should get paid by Tesla, but. And by the way, he's got plenty of money to be paying us. I also have an suv, so I only am covering both ends of the spectrum. I'm both paying way less and way more than the average car driver. But going to your point, Ryan, is there any data on. So early voting will start, you know, sometime in October, most places. Right. And then lead into. Is there any data on. Let's presume oil prices are down in October, because I think you're right. If oil prices are high, it's going to be a negative. How much backlog on oil prices? Again, I don't know. What's the average? About $4.10 a gallon or something like that, if I'm not mistaken. And let's say that they're back down around $3. Ish. You know, and again, every time I say this, people are like, I pay. Okay, this is a nationwide average in California, you're getting.

[A]

I love how great Aunt Ethel is the only one who buys gas.

[B]

Every time I mentioned the price of anything, remember when eggs was a big story, I was like, well, you know, eggs. Somebody's like, I paid this morning. You know, it's like, okay, it's a nationwide price egg. Everybody is going to pay a little bit different. All right, so let's say that the average. The average nationwide can be different in California, New York and Florida and Texas and Tennessee, where I am, average is $3. Will people still be angry about gas prices in April, May, June? In other words, how long does gas price anger linger? And if it's back down to around $3, which I predict it will be in the fall, you can grab this one and call me out if I'm wrong on it. Do people still stay angry about what the price was in April and May?

[C]

I think that if it affects their summer plans, I think that anger boils over into the fall. He really has to get it down in a very, very short period of time. The window is very, very small. It's maybe two months. I would say two to two and a half months is where you want to get down. If it is still high in the summer and they're saying, guys, guess what? We're not going on vacations here because we can't afford gas, which in many places is very high. That will be absolutely impactful. It also depends on the places where gas is the highest. One of the highest places for gas right now is Alaska. $4.65 a gallon, according to Alaska has a very, very critical U.S. senate race in it that will guarantee that will decide how this election plays out for the U.S. senate. Control of the Senate. So it depends on where. Also Maine is very high, Maine's $4.06 a gallon. It depends on where and it depends on how fast you want to get it down as fast as possible before it affects people's summer plans and the anger over that and the anger over anxiety over the economy, how long that that, you know, moves forward.

[A]

So, Ryan, can we keep you through? Because I actually want to, want to save this for the discussion, save some time for the discussion about your substack on the CDC data on birth. Fascinating stuff on who's having babies in this country and what's changing and get into immigrants and, you know, immigrants who are coming here, all this stuff. Can, can we keep you through for another segment? And Clay can speak. Okay, well, Ryan Graduski, it's a, It's a Numbers Game is his podcast, guys. He'll stay with us. We'll get into some numbers on Bird. I'm telling you, the birth data stuff is fascinating. So stay with us. And Clay wants to talk about one

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[A]

We're working on. We're gonna build out the roster, buddy. We're working.

[B]

You got to build out the roster and help save humanity. I've got three I, I legitimately, Ryan, tell my boys now that my favorite kid is going to be the one that has the mo, gets married and has the most kids and does the best job of being a dad because I and people sometimes like my boys legit roll their eyes at me over this. But if you look at the numbers, the number of kids that are being born, babies are a vote for the future. I really do believe this. It's hard to be pessimistic if you've got a young baby in your hands and you're thinking about the future that they are going to one day be a part of. And it's incredibly important, obviously, to the furthering of the country. What's going on here?

[C]

Yes. So birth rates are down worldwide. It's not just an American phenomenon. Actually, America for a developed country is still at the higher end at 1.57 children per woman. You measure per woman, not per man. So 1.57 children per woman. You need 2.1 children per woman to meet replacement levels. What we're seeing in the new CDC data for February 2026 is one, an indicator that Trump's immigration crackdown is actually highly effective because among immigrant groups that have more than 1,000 children a month, we're seeing double digit declines. I always say fertility is a lagging indicator of immigration enforcement. In other words, if you are seven months pregnant when Trump came in and you're an illegal alien, you're going to have the kids. Who gets an American citizenship. You're not going to flee. As the crackdowns have happened on legal immigration or illegal immigration, as people have self deported, that number, obviously as time goes on and there's fewer pregnant women, they've had the baby since Trump became president, there will be less children being pregnant and being born afterwards. So among immigrants from China, legal and illegal, the number is down 17.5%, Colombians 10.5%, Ecuadorians 22%, El Salvadorian 15%, Guatemalans 16%, Haitians 16% and Mexicans 13%. These are all the groups that have more than 1,000 children per month. So among that it shows there is clearly an effect of either a self defence deportation and mass deportation happening, because you're seeing it now in the birth data as well. The most interesting thing about fertility data that is coming out, it's a story that no one really is covering, is the massive decline among births happening among Black American women. 2024 was the very first year that whites had more children on average per woman than blacks did in this country. The numbers in 2025. Sorry, sorry, 2026, rather this year so far that number is wildly high. It's an average of 1.55 for white women and 1.44 for black women. And the drop off on black women on how many kids they have is down nearly double digits every single year as a percentage. Right. So in 2020, in January and February of 2025, Black women gave birth to 76,000 children in this country. In January and February 2026, it was 70,000, down nearly 10%. The Black. The percentage of black children being born in this country is usually 13 and a half to 14%. It will be below 12% by next year, by 2027, and could by the end of the decade be as low as 10%. That's a dramatic, dramatic drop in the percentages. And that's really one of the bigger groups that has led to an overall population body. But their decline is larger than any other group in this country and no one's talking about it. Is a true cultural phenomenon happening right now?

[A]

Why is that happening, Ryan?

[C]

Great question. A lot of talk about abortion. It's not abortion. Abortion was obviously way more easily more accessible before road being overturned. It's two things. A 90% reduction in teen pregnancy. Teen pregnancy when I was growing up in the 90s was not super common, but it was common. You know, you could see it in a lot of places. Teen pregnancy has declined more than 90%. Actually. It was more common for a woman between 15 and 19 to have a child and a woman between 20 and 24 to have a child back in the 90s. It is now far less common. It almost never happens. The second thing is the growth in college applications and black women going to college. Nothing delays pregnancy and childbearing more than college for women. And the amount of black women who go to college is substantially larger than has ever been. So those are two big cultural phenomenons. Also having a child by accident is rarer and rarer in this country.

[B]

You really, we only, we only have one minute left. Ryan. The data that I saw was women in their 30s are having almost all the babies now relative to past. Have we oversold from a data perspective? Women on abandoning having kids when they're in their 20s. And also you mentioned teenagers and it's just a math equation. Right. Once you get to your 30s, it's harder to get to 2.1.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You have fewer children and you have them and you have them later on in life. Absolutely. You know, Meghan McCain is a friend of mine. She always says women need to take their fertility as well as serious as they take their job. And that's, that is a, you know, that's the truth. You're not rarely are you a celebrity who has their first kid at 45 years old. If you want to have children, you should plan for that early and try to have it as early as you possibly can in order to make sure you have as many as you want. The number that they want, number they're having is very different. People want more than they're actually having.

[A]

Ryan, one last quick thing. What are you hitting on the podcast next? What's the next episode going to be?

[C]

Why I'm doing the whole episode, this just came out is about this number and the number on my from Monday show is by Maria Salazar. Her long record of advocating for illegal aliens and her so called Dignity act that she has been pushing.

[A]

Oh, you're going to take a two by four to the Dignity Act. That's going to be great listening this weekend. Everybody go check that one out. Ryan Graduski. It's a numbers game. Listen to it. Ryan, thanks so much.

[C]

Thank you.

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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show final hour of the week, 14 hours up. We are working on our number 15 now. Encourage you as always, go subscribe to the podcast on YouTube. Make sure that that you do not miss us on all of the social media platforms and we thank all of you listening on nearly 600am FM stations nationwide as well as satellite radio. The podcast however you are finding us now, we thank you for doing so. Okay, as we head into the weekend, big story ongoing the US Iran talks in Pakistan scheduled to begin on Saturday. Artemis 2 going to land off the coast of San Diego. That is the week long plus moon navigation that took place starting last week. And Buck, we didn't really react to what we talked with our good buddy Ryan Garduski who is also a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network told us. But I do think it's, it's worth here as we dive into hour three, having a little bit of discussion about it. I was jotting down notes because this has been a widely discussed in some circles story, but by and large it's mostly getting ignored. The United States fertility rate has fallen according to the most recent data to 1.5 children per woman per woman. And, and that is relatively easy to explain because, and the math is not crazy complicated. Women need to average 2.1 children in order to exceed replacement level. Again, the math on this is not crazy complicated. And that is not occurring and it's not just happening in the United States. It is collapsing all around the world at many different elite Western civilization countries. Whether it is Japan, which has North South Korea, whether it is Italy and now obviously the United States, wherever and certainly much of Europe. If you look at France and if you look at at what's happening in England, all these different countries with great histories of civilization that have basic human rights, the population is collapsing. And I don't know if this is ever going to reverse. But if it does not, then humanity starts to decline in population, Buck really really fast. China is a great example of this where they're saying by the end of this century, the Chinese population is going to go from around 1.4 billion ish, I believe where it is right now to about 650, 700 million. In other words, before the end of this century, China's going to have half the population that it does right now. There's reading a story this morning. Japan is having a huge issue with just abandoned homes in Japan right now. Huge numbers of homes because the population has collapsed to such an extent. They're just abandoned. Nobody lives there. The government will actually basically give you title to these homes to be able to live there. Is this, should we be talking about this more as a real significant issue and, and whether or how we fix it?

[A]

Well, yes, it's a hugely significant issue and there's a lot of factors that all come together and it's really a pretty new phenomenon in human and human history to have both so many women entering the workforce, delaying child, childbearing. These very well off societies in the west and including democracies in the east like Japan and South Korea, where people aren't having enough kids. That's all very real. Elon, who is certainly a guy who sees the future well, recognizes this as I think the biggest challenge that humanity faces. The good news is there is a solution to it. And the solution is actually quite fun, in fact. In fact, and not only fun, I mean there's of course that part of it, but it's also very rewarding. And being a dad is like my favorite thing ever, as I'm sure it is for you, Clay, three times over. Being a dad is the absolute greatest. Being a mom, I'm sure is. I can't speak. I can't speak to it. You know, I can't identify as, as a mom, but I'm sure that's the same thing. You know what I think is going to actually be increasingly playing a role in this? There's already some data. You've seen little bits of this here and there. GLP drugs.

[B]

Oh, this is an interesting thing.

[A]

Very helpful because once you start taking that sweet, sweet sauce From Ozempic or Tirzapeptide or whatever, you drop those 30 or 40 pounds, you're sleeping better, you're feeling better, you're looking better, you might as well just throw on a little Barry White in the background. Can't get enough of your love, baby. You know, it starts really moving and grooving.

[B]

People are going to get more frisky as they lose weight on the glps because this is Funny. Body positivity was a big thing for what, 10 years. You know, they put in people in spandex who shouldn't be in spandex, like doing, you know, all sorts of body movement and they're like, hey, I feel great about being morbidly obese. And I was like, I don't know, that doesn't seem like a great thing. Body positivity has vanished. And as these GLP1s are becoming more and more affordable, people are dropping weight at a significant level. That's an interesting theory. And it's going to make them in. In the mind of buck sex. Well, you know, there's more frisky.

[A]

There's actually a chemistry behind it too. For the guys out there, if your estrogen levels get too high, your estro, your estradiol, then your libido tends to, you know, if you have low T and high estrogen, it's all about balance. By the way, you need estrogen actually as a guy, but if your estrogen level gets high relative to your testosterone level, it'll affect libido and mood pretty drastically. And so because we also have a T, a testosterone crisis in the west, which people haven't really figured out yet, I think part of it is just, it's our, it's dietary, it's the toxic masculinity hate that men have been getting. There's a lot of things that come together there too. It's not a single factor analysis you can do. But Clay, biochemically you are more likely to want to get frisky if you are at a healthier weight is the bottom line, male and female. So GLPs are the most important health revolution of the 21st century, in my opinion. And also I think are going to help with the baby boom. There could be something of an Ozempic baby boom, if you will.

[B]

This would be fantastic. Here's my concern. I think that by the way, you respect the barrier.

[A]

Barry White. Barry White. I mean, if you're, if you're in the baby making mood, right? Barry White's what you got to throw off.

[B]

Very, very, very, very positive. I would say. Here's my concern and this is, it's, it almost is just a math equation. Just make it very logical. If the average woman, and I believe I'm correct in this is. So let's start with point one. We would like to have children in marriage, right? In an ideal world. So I tell my kids, get married, have as many babies as you can, be a good dad, but you need to get Married, right? So you want a dad and a mom both present. If we are having incredibly declining rates of marriage and we are also simultaneously seeing marriage beginning for women. Now I'm focusing on women here because women have babies. We understand that biologically here we're not a left wing show. If women are not getting married until they're in their 30s, and this is now becoming the standard, right? The average man is over 30. The average woman increasingly is basically 30 years old. The math equation on this, Buck, just gets hard. And I we need to have more women on talking about this. But this is because then inevitably it's just like, well, you're a guy, you don't. It's way harder for women to have babies in their 30s than it is in their 20s. And if we are both simultaneously creating a world where the highest educated, most wealthy among us are not getting married until they're in their 30s, then you just get into a mathematical equation, right, where it takes longer than you expect. You're 33 when you have your first baby. The babies are first, especially first babies, as you've just learned, Buck, very changing to your lifestyle. And then you're like, ok, we got to figure out, do we have the time now to have baby number two? It takes a time. I just think the math on this, when you don't get married until after 30 on average, I think there are a lot of people that would be open to having baby two, baby three, baby one, that don't get in a position where the math adds up. Because a lot of women. Look, when you get into your upper 30s, what is it? A. Jerry, this is crazy, but it's

[A]

called a geriatric pregnancy. Once you hit 35, 35, which doesn't

[B]

feel very old, that is, by the

[A]

way, that is officially, medically, that is not a point of contention. That is not a derogatory thing. That is, it is considered medically a geriatric pregnancy from 35.

[B]

So do you.

[A]

I know because my wife had a geriatric pregnancy. So.

[B]

So this is. I know because my assistant Katie, who has a couple of different babies, she was like, I couldn't believe it. They called me a geriatric pregnant woman because she was 35. I think when she had her second baby. I think it's just a math equation. And. And I think a lot of women out there, and I don't know if it's going to happen, are going to have to decide, hey, what's the most important thing to me? Is it having a baby or is it Getting promoted to mid tier management in a job that frankly isn't that desirable of a job. And I think we have sold this again, people are gonna get mad at me over this. I think we have sold a lot of people a bill of goods. That your success in a major multinational corporation defines you more than your success as a parent. And I think you can speak to this now that you're a dad. I can certainly speak to it as a dad. Like success in life is great in professional career, but it pales in comparison to being a parent.

[A]

This is like a whole different show we're doing now, but I guess I'll just lean into it. A whole different show. Just in terms of how much content and discussion there can be about this stuff. One thing that I've seen from my female peers in New York City, meaning girls who I grew up with and are my age, a lot of them I think feel very. They felt a little lied to by the culture that professional success at some level would make them desirable mates. We've kind of run that experiment. And the truth is the guy working as a gas station attendant and the CEO of the Fortune 100 company kind of looking for a lot of the same things. It's. And it doesn't equate with being VP of the marketing firm. They don't care is the point. It doesn't actually affect your marketability the same way as it does in the dating marketplace. By the way, people can argue with me on this. All the data supports this. I was single a lot in New York City. I've seen a lot. I understand how these dynamics play out. That no matter whether. But what I was referring to, by the way, there's data that shows that whether you're making like $50,000 a year or, you know, $5 million a year, the top three professions that it's not that they don't want. People want educated, you know, they want an educated wife. They want somebody. But in terms of career stuff. Nurse, pediatrician, school teacher, black guys, white guys, Hispanic. Go, go.

[B]

To connect the issue there is all that would be a good moment. This is the job that you think a good mom would. Would have.

[A]

Yes. And so women who sacrifice. This is like the women that I went to Amherst with who went into investment banking, which has just horrendous and really abusive hours in your 20s, which you exchange for money. It's not worth it to gain £30 as a woman in your 20s and have your hair start to fall out, fall out from stress and anxiety and trying to do all this stuff because you're, you know you're going to make like a slightly bigger bonus than if you took the job where you're actually doing something you want to do. And I think a lot of women have been lied to about that. Men will make those trip. By the way. Jordan Peterson's been hitting this for years and years. He's totally right. Men will make these trade offs like the guys listening to us who do the, the crazy like arctic fishing thing off of Alaska and they make you know, 80 grand in the six week season. I'm making up the numbers.

[B]

But they get knocked into the ocean and die. Men make.

[A]

But they might freeze to death in the ocean. Yeah, exactly. They're playing with like big harpoons and hooks and stuff and Captain Ahab stuff. They do that knowing that they come home and they're a, you know, they're a more appealing provider. They got more money in the bank, all this sort of stuff. The economic incentives in mating are not the same for men and women is the bottom line. And women have been largely now, now there are going to be some guys who call in who watch Ms. Now and who are beta males who are like, I want a provider as well. I'm not saying you don't want a woman who has a job. I'm saying that people who sacrificed life for, for job who are women oftentimes because remember the timelines are different. They look back at this now and they're like no one told me. No, no one told me that mortgaging my 20s and deep into my 30s so that I could be on a super aggressive career track had real consequences for me that the men don't have. We can have kids in our 60s.

[B]

This is the key. You can be a guy and say I want to work 90 hours a week in my 20s and 30s. And you can make, put yourself in a position where you're making a lot of money. And then at 45 you can decide, hey, you know what? I want to get married. And there are tons of from frankly from 25 to you know, 35 year old women. You saw it all the time.

[A]

My date, my dating options once I hit 35 were more available than, than in my 20s by like, by like an order of magnitude.

[B]

And so it is a biology is real. And I think again, when you don't get married until your 30s, the math on not surprised honestly because I think the fulfillment you decide, hey, I had one, you're 36, 37, two may or may not happen. And I do think it's a. It's a major issue going forward because the most educated, successful societies are having the least amount of children and that does not seem good. And by the way, the wealthiest societies

[A]

and by the way, they're importing a lot of people from societies where they're not educated and they're having a lot of kids. And there are social costs that come with that too because now you're creating a massive welfare state and there's. There's problems with that. So anyway, see, we got into a whole other conversation here. I might actually want to talk some sports coming up. That's right.

[B]

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[C]

All right.

[A]

Welcome back into clay and buck. Clay, you're have to explain this to me on the flip side. Okay. But I'm going to get to this now. This just popped up in my feed. I learned about the sports media from you because I didn't. I pay no attention to it. Know nothing about it. This is from comedian Peter Ravello. I just think this is kind of fun we could have on a Friday. This. He did this on the. On the tonight show on NBC. But this is a little bit he did on sports talk radio which you used to do play 18.

[B]

I'm going to therapy. And guys run from blue collar New York guys. They don't really do therapy. This is what they do. They call up sports talk radio that's how they get it out. Vinny's calling about the Yankees, but it's not really about the Yankees. He calls up, he's like, mike, what's going on? Yankees doing it this year also. You ever get sad? You ever stare at the moon and wonder if the jets are staring at that same move?

[A]

Clay, you used to do sports talk radio. Is, is it kind of like this for some guys?

[B]

Oh, this is so perfect. Sports are so many men's emotional outlet, right. If you see a guy screaming at the television and trust me, I've been there a lot, it's not always just about what's going on on the screen. And Rush has a fantastic take on this. The team pulled this after we were joking and sharing this clip. We'll play it for you when we come back. No matter how safe you think your neighborhood is, there's always the chance you could fall victim to a home intrusion, a burglary. Statistics show it happens twice a minute on average nationwide. And if you don't want to have a lethal option in the house, maybe you got young kids that are always snooping around, maybe you got grandkids in the house and you want to have access to something that can protect you. But you also want to make sure that your kids and grandkids are safe and they don't have end up messing around with your weapons, your guns. Saber can get you hooked up. They've got non lethal. These are non lethal options that are designed to help make sure that you're safe. You can get a 2 in 1 pepper light flashlight and pepper spray if you're outdoors walking at night, for instance. You can also get the 7 shot pepper projectile launcher. It is amazing. We have every one of these products in our home. You can use them for the kids, for the Grandkids, for yourself. Sabradio.com that's S A B R E radio.com get them all today. Welcome back in Clay. Travis, Buck Sexton show. My awesome assistant Katie was listening. She says that geriatic pregnancy. She just texted me. She was listening to the show. Buck. Now they're starting to move on from geriatric pregnancy because so many women were, I think rocked at the age of 35 by hearing that they were a geriatric pregnancy. They now call it in many places. Buck. This is advanced maternal age or AMA to try to make women less stunned, I think by the concept of a Jerry.

[A]

I totally, I totally disagree with this. I think that they should let, like people should know. You should because it's A biological reality. This isn't about feelings. This is about with each passing year, after 35, your risk of complications goes up. Your chances of getting pregnant goes down, your chance of bringing the baby full term goes down. All of the people women need to know, my female friends that I grew up with, like I said in New York, so many of them were just lied to about this stuff, lied to by the culture. Go be a girl boss. You have plenty of time. You have plenty of time. The guys are partying, you know, go, go to Tulum, Eat, pray, love your way through. Now I understand this may be a very specific thing to people in New York, Louisiana, D.C. boston, Chicago, but it's not a good time in all those places.

[B]

I think it's very common for highly educated women. They are told that they can have it all and some, to be fair, are able to manage all of it better than others. But if you don't find the right person, to your point, like you're hanging out with guys at 25 and 30 and 33 and 34 that can be able to do the fancy vacations and still have the high end success. But those guys might decide at 45, hey, I'm going to get married, I'm going to settle down, I'm going to have kids. And that option is available to them. And you suddenly look around, you're 39 years old, you're in middle management, maybe you're making a decent salary, but I don't think it's that fulfilling. And I think a lot of women have been sold and then they look around and they. The 39 year old guy doesn't feel the same pressure that the 39 year old woman does. And here's the other reality, Buck. It's way harder for women to date young, right? Way harder for 39 year old woman to find. First of all, men are morons in their twenties oftentimes and aren't that serious. So it's hard to find. Like let's say you're 39 and you want to date a 28 year old. 39 year old guy can date a lot of 28 year olds. Most 28 year old guys are not going to seriously date a 39 year old woman to stay with. So the math on this is different. We got a want to play this rush cut? Cause you played a funny clip as we went to break of how male sports talker radio is often before we

[A]

get to the rush cut though, I mean, have you had guys call it? They're like clay, I just want to say, I love what's going on with Auburn. They're doing great. And, you know, my wife and I are having problems. Like, did you ever have to Dr. Phil the situation because you thought you were there to do sports analysis, but really someone just wanted to call into chat.

[B]

Look, this, this has to do with during COVID And I'm not claiming that sports talk radio is saving the world. Far from it. But during COVID March, April, May, June, 2020, I was doing nationwide sports talk radio for Fox Sports Radio leading into Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd, and sports shut down. Sports shutdown just didn't exist. For those of you who have forgotten, I know a lot of you imagine doing three hours a day of sports talk radio. March, April, May, June of 2020. To a large extent, my job then, Buck, I really mean this was to be a therapist for people who are otherwise sports fans. Because a lot of people didn't get the opportunity to just sit at home and eat Cheetos and watch Netflix. A lot of guys, especially early in the morning, are up on the road, they're driving. And sports is their escape from the serious things in life, right? You got a wife who might be sick or not very happy with you. You got a mom and dad who might be aging. Sports is your escape. It is your sanity. And a lot of it is. I mean, I'm telling you, a lot of it is a emotional connection, which is now.

[A]

Now I want to go back and listen to old Clay Travis shows, just to hear some guy call in, like, well, you know, I love Ohio State so much, and, like, they're not playing. And Clay, tell me a story. You know, just like, Clay, tell me it's going to be okay.

[B]

I'm telling you, you go back and you listen to a lot of those March, April, May, and June shows. A lot of it was therapy for guys that were busting their ass and didn't have sports to be able to escape. And the world's falling down around them, and they still got to be in that truck and they got to deliver that beer to a gas station. Or they got to still be, you know, showing up at their jobs when everybody, the higher end, your job was you just slept in, right? You're not waking up at 6am how many remember when, like, everybody was getting up at, like, 10:00am in the morning, they started to look at the data and nobody was waking up early in the morning who had, you know, working from home. Things changed enormously. And a lot of people didn't get that opportunity and still had to go and work, no matter what is very important.

[A]

Being able to separate yourself from just the rudimentary routine that you're in on a day to day basis, whether it's prayer, meditation. I'm actually doing yoga with Carrie after this. Yoga. Sports. I find video games or me, Elon. And I, I find video games are a super easy way to kind of.

[B]

What does your wife think about video games?

[A]

I try not to play them when she, I, I, I feel like women

[B]

hate, women hate men playing video games. Sports. Like, they may not love you watching sports. They really hate walking in. I'm talking about like 20s and 30s.

[A]

I try to like slyly sort of just turn it off. Like just checking to see if it still works, you know.

[B]

But as in, as a general rule, women do not find it attractive for men to play video.

[A]

And we know when I'm like, when I'm like changing diapers and cleaning the kitchen, I get wifey walking around, you know, spandex and feeling great when she catches a little too much video games going on. All of a sudden, wifey's like, triple XL sweatshirt, like Mrs. Doubtfire style out there. It's just, it's amazing how that happens.

[B]

The young men, and I know we have some young men listening, just have this idea that, you know, they're going to have a girlfriend and she's going to be incredibly good looking and she's going to love playing Call of Duty with them, right? Like, there's this, there's this young male fantasy. It's like we're just gonna, we're just gonna be like fighting World War II battles. And then when we're tired of fighting World War II battles on call of Duty, we're gonna make out and it's gonna be, yeah, it's probably. And they sell them, right? They sell them on this idea because there's a couple of pretty girls, like, what was the Olivia Munn back in the days? Like, I love video games and Star wars and I'm gonna dress up like Princess Leia and we're just gonna play

[A]

like all the, all the Maxim magazine models, the heyday of Maxim magazine, they would do some little interview and they're just like, I like a guy with a little bit of a beer belly that I can hug and cuddle. It's like, sure you do. Sure you do. Olga the bikini model. Like, absolutely, yeah.

[B]

Rush, coming back to this clip, when you shared that comedian's take, what was the comedian's name, by the way? Should we give him credit did we

[A]

get credit again for it? I'll, I'll, I'll pull it up right

[B]

now, make sure we get him credit.

[A]

Peter Re. Peter Ravello doing his routine on the. But now I follow him. Cause, like, I just, I thought that was a really funny routine. He's got some other funny bits, too.

[B]

Sports talker. This is one good thing about Instagram, by the way. Comedians have just taken off on the reels function. If you find a couple of funny cuts, like, it's been phenomenal for them. But. So that comedian talking about sports talk radio callers. Rush, obviously, as many of you know, was huge sports fan, was involved in sports for much of his career of a variety of different perspectives and fact. There was talk for a while that Rush was going to buy his own team because of the success he had with this radio program. But here is Rush talking about when he worked for the Kansas City Royals back in the day and what sports teams did and meant to people. I thought this was really interesting. Well done. Pulled by the staff. This is from 2017, I believe. Cut 19.

[D]

One thing about sports fandom, I had a sociologist from Harvard once tell me that the, the great thing about sports, and I've, I've never forgotten this, folks. I was working for Kansas City Royals for their winter meetings one year in Scottsdale, Arizona. We had this Harvard sociologist and I said, what? My first reaction, are you kidding me? We've got some Ivy Leaguer coming down here trying to tell us added techniques on marketing our teams and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went. Well, it was mandatory. I went. And the guy said something that was actually one of those things that, when he said it, yeah, absolute wish you could have thought of it yourself, but you didn't. He said, the beauty of sports. Now, remember, all this is in the context of us who were in marketing and sales trying to expand the number of people that visit the ballpark or watch on TV and ways to exploit their fandom. He said, the unique thing about sports is the one thing you can invest total passion without consequence. He said, try that with a woman. Or there were some women, he looked at them, said, try that with a man. And what he meant by that was, your team may lose and they may disappoint you, but your team will never try to take half of what you've got. Your team will never divorce. Your team will never reject you. Your team will never. Unless you throw beer on a player, they'll never kick you out of the place. But when interpersonal relationships all. Everybody their first time, they get heartbreak or hurt. They're reserved after that. They don't want that to happen again. And so they do not invest their passion totally because there's consequence when you can. This is. This is the definition of uber fandom. Invest total passion without consequence.

[B]

It's really kind of fascinating. And I mean, I think again, there are women who are sports Fans, you know, 25% of sports fandom, but for most die hard sports fans is male. And it is really kind of interesting to think through that. And many of you may be in your relationships with your dad or your brothers or your best friends. A huge portion of the conversations that I have with the men in my family is sports related. Right. The boys in my family still sports related. It's a form of love language for men that is not defined in that way. And I thought the comedian on the flip, on a funny side of it, making that point, and then rush on a more serious side, kind of deconstructing the psychology behind it. Does make sense.

[A]

Well, it's important for people to be able to have conversations that, that share any kind of a common ground, which I know you, this is why. And I have to take credit for this because it's true. It's an observation about Clay and he admits it. He straight up trusts you and likes you more. If you are an SEC football fan, he's like, oh, I can give you the keys to my car. I can. You're like, you're a good dude or gal, you're a good person, you like SEC football. But being able to find common ground with people that you can share is. Is very powerful. And it even reminds me of. I feel like I used to think that small talk was people. There's a lot of people say, I don't do small talk or small talks. Waste of time. Small talk is actually just about establishing the energy and the exchange between two people. It's kind of like, hey, I'm here, I'm a friendly and I'm hoping you're good, and we're all good. And it's putting everyone at ease. Right. Small talk is not about the exchange of information. It's the exchange of energy that comes from it, or the intent, if you will, of the exchange, which is, hey, I'm happy to see you, you're happy to see me. I wish you well, you wish me well. And we're talking about the weather because people don't really care to talk about the weather. But the point is establishing that commonality. And I see that a lot with the people who are sportsball fans.

[B]

Yes. And by the way, you know what? That commonality often is lost in now phones because it used to be that you would have conversations with strangers more. Now what most of us do, and I do this too, is if you're standing in a line or if you're engaged in, you know, some activity. So many people look down at their phones and so you dial out of the circumstances and surroundings around you and your human interaction has now been translated into the phone. We've got a funny clip, somewhat funny. It's, it's good for me from Kamala Harris that we will play out, that we will play to close out the week for all of you.

[A]

Sports Play is going to spike the football early. On his way out this weekend, we'll

[B]

see if any of you are angry about anything that has been said during the course of the week as we get ready for the final segment. Just a reminder, Buck Sexton is the person that you're upset with. He's the if you, if any women out there are angry over the discussion about birth rates and everything, it's Buck is the one that you're mad at. Just a reminder. And now you can take us into the break.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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