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Clay Travis
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And I'm Drew Goins. Each Friday on Impromptu, we talk through.
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Buck Sexton
The questions we can't stop thinking about.
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Colby Ekowitz
Do we need to rethink how much we drink?
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Drew Goins
Why are companies really asking workers to.
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Buck Sexton
Come back to the office?
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Colby Ekowitz
Does boycotting a business actually work?
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Should we quit social media?
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Clay Travis
Visit rapidradios.com to save up to 60% and get free UPS shipping from Michigan. Use code RADIO25 for an extra $25 off and a free EMP protection bag. Order now@rapidradios.com welcome, everybody, to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. We got a lot to dive into with all of you. Thank you so much for rolling with us. We've got, let me see here, Trump's economy. More coming out on the trade deals. Trump, in fact, said it's going to be very, he's going to be very nice to China. We'll see how long that lasts. Is he going to be nice to China? Is this a head fake? What's going on here? Trump is being Trump. Tom Homan laying down the law here. I, you know, I have borderline Homan man crush. This is a guy who is essential to the future of the Republic, who knows his portfolio as well as anybody and who is just doing a fantastic job for the Trump administration. And he is not going to abide any nonsense when it comes to the efforts to sabotage deportation efforts and the whole Abrego Garcia martyrdom industrial complex that is going on right now. We're not gonna allow that to just go or he's not gonna allow that to just be a thing where they turn this guy into a symbol. Elon Musk weighing in again. Rough, rough period here for a Tesla profits. Elon's gonna be heading back. I think pretty soon. He's gonna be going back to focusing on what it is that he needs to be doing, which is other than Doge, which is running some of the most important and innovative companies in the world markets. Just making sure nothing's changed since I last checked. Marking pretty good. Yeah, look at. I could. You know how I can tell, guys? Clay's. Clay's pretty cool as a cucumber right now. You know, if I come in here, the market's down 1200 points. Clay has this look on his face. He's not a happy camper about it because, you know, he's got to manage the Clay, the Clay folio, the portfolio of all things Clay. And he does not like it when that market is getting crushed. But let's, let's have some fun with something else for a moment here because, you know, we had on yesterday David Zweig and, and I know, you know, look, talking Covid, some of you are like, oh, we have to move on. You see what's going on right now is the Democrats are having to exorcise the demons from within a bit here. They're having to at least go through a process of the. The whole Biden dementia cover up. What was that all about? Are they really going to keep pushing on this trans stuff? I think the answer is yes, by the way. But they're at least looking around saying, how do we win on an 80, 20, maybe 90, 10 issue nationally? And then you also have, by the way, Clay, I just one thing I would throw out there, if we had a different Supreme Court. I know this is. I'm weaving here, everybody, but weave with me. If we had a different Supreme Court, you would have trans. The trans agenda would have been mandated the same way Roe v. Wade was. I truly believe that. So if Trump loses and we have a different Supreme Court makeup, you have a diktot from the court years ago saying that, you know, you have to. I actually think that could have happened, as crazy as that may sound now, because we have a more sane court. But on the COVID thing, we had Zweig on yesterday and we were talking to him about the school shutdowns, which is I, you know, Clay, this is tough. So many of. What is the thing that gets you the angriest? And we're going to Randy Weingarten's out there. I'm going to tie this into the news cycle here today in just a moment, everyone. What is the COVID thing that at this point ticks you off the most? I still think the lab leak for our people, for our side, the lie about the lab leak is the one that gets them the most aggravated. What is it for you?
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Drew Goins
It's still that kids weren't able to go to school for almost two years. And, and honestly, I thought David Zweig yesterday really kind of brought it home. But I've tried to hammer this as well. The kids that were the most disadvantaged during COVID were the ones that had the least privilege and the least opportunity in the first place. Because if you're Gavin Newsom's kids, he puts you in a private school even while all the public schools are shut down and his kids are getting an elite education. If you are wealthy enough to have private tutors, if you are fortunate enough to have had parents who could be involved in your education because they weren't having to go to work to try to make sure that you had a roof over your head, then Covid was not ideal, but you were able to make through it, potentially even thrive. I've Said this before, but my. He was, I guess 10 at the time when Covid happened. My 10 year old. When 2020 ended, remember how everybody was celebrating ball drops and they're like, boy, I'm so glad 2020 is over. He was like, no, Dad, 2020 was the best year ever. And I said, well, what do you mean? And he said, dad, we got out of school and didn't have to go back in March. You know, if you're a kid, one snow day is a big deal. They basically got two months of snow days. And he said, and this was, I thought, really kind of touching. He was like, you and mom were home all, all the time. Like you weren't. I wasn't traveling very much for work. Right. So for a lot of young kids, if you were fortunate enough to have parents who were able to be around the household, they came through it fine. They might have even thrived. But on the other hand, if your mom or your dad or you're a single parent household and they're having to bust their ass to try to make sure that you're taken care of and they don't have, quote, non essential jobs where they get to eat Cheetos and watch Netflix from home and order DoorDash, if you don't have all those opportunities, then you might not have had WI fi at home. You didn't have any real educational environment surrounding you. You had no support structure. We threw the least disadvantaged, the kids who needed school in person the most to the wolves. And unfortunately were reaping, I think the consequences of that awful decision. And a big part of it was, was Randy Winegarden who is still trying to claim, and I think it's important to hold these people accountable, that she had nothing to do with why schools didn't reopen. And it's a lie, and it's a really nasty lie.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, it's. It's a Soviet style rewriting of history by the chief teachers union commissar. And I really believe that the chief villain of COVID There were many. The chief villain of COVID is Fauci. But Randy Weingarten was, was right there. You know, if she wasn't Mao, she was Chew and Lay. She was the, the next up on, on the podium. She was somebody who was particularly destructive and dishonest. But here she is. She was on first. Well, first of all, she goes on Martha McCallum show and does something that I can tell you, Martha's a nice lady, but she's very, very serious about what she does. Very professional in what she does. She did not appreciate. This is cut 8. Listen to this.
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Colby Ekowitz
We know that money does not equate a better outcome because in Newark, New Jersey, you have a per student per capita expenditure that is one of the highest in the country and you have actually very, very difficult. Martha, sweetheart, sweetheart, listen to me. Please don't call me sweetheart. She does. I'm sorry, My.
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Clay Travis
My bad, Clay.
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Drew Goins
You know, first of all, I love Martha. I love Martha.
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Clay Travis
First amendment in sweetheart. I was just waiting for her to say it.
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Drew Goins
I do. I do that show with Martha every Friday. She's super smart. I love her. What is Randy Weingarten thinking calling?
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Clay Travis
I don't know.
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Drew Goins
Sweetheart, that is just super. First of all, Randy Weingarten isn't a 90 year old man, right? So in order for Martha McCollum to be like a sweetheart to somebody, it's like a grandfatherly older figure, right? Randy Weingarten is in rough contemporary universe age with Martha. Super weird answer. There's um. And Martha's also really good, like on the fly. A lot of people worry about what the response is going to be. She just like comes back immediately. So good for her. But. But what Martha's pointing out there that Randy's trying to cut off is if we just looked at pure per pupil expenditure, many Democrat cities should have the greatest students of all time because the amount of money that's being spent on public education is legitimately off the charts. If you compared as Martha was just doing Newark, New Jersey with, I bet per pupil spending in North Dakota. And I was just with the former governor of North Dakota, Doug Burgum. So I'm using. He's going to be on with us a little bit after one. I had breakfast with him this morning in Franklin. I bet that North Dakota spends a fraction of the dollar per pupil that Newark, New Jersey does. And I bet they get 10x the results. Right? So the idea of hey, it's all money is what Martha's calling into question. But then, Buck, have you looked at the Supreme Court argument that happened yesterday? The books that they are trying to defend reading to kindergartners and first graders in Montgomery County, Maryland. We need to read some of what these titles were. They managed to unite Christians, Jews and Muslim parents, all of whom were like, what in the world is going on here that you're trying to teach? But this is one of the other parts of this was Randy Weingarten getting asked about this cut seven class who's gay, Right.
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Colby Ekowitz
You have to figure out a Way to create a welcoming and safe environment. But if you also have. We also, if you looked at that same conference, we had tons of time on artificial intelligence on career tech ed. So what teachers have to do is we have to embrace everything. Everything that society throws at us, we have to deal with.
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Drew Goins
Buck. It's a not look, it's crazy.
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Clay Travis
It's always. First of all, they've tried this book banning thing for a long time, which is just a lie, right? If you say you don't want copies of Playboy circulated among grammar school kids, you're not banning Playboy, you're just saying don't give it to kids.
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Drew Goins
Right?
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Clay Travis
I mean, this is pretty straightforward. And that's really what they're talking about. Is the content appropriate for children? No one is gathering, by the way, these gross and often idiotic books, aside from who they're being given to and burning them in big piles or something. But that's the propaganda that they try to push with all of this stuff. But what we're seeing here, I think, is that the teachers unions in general are a malignant force when it comes to children's education, their futures. There should be no such thing as public sector unions for teachers, period. Every state should get rid of them. I know the courts would try to slow this down in places because it's such a source of power. And let's be honest, jobs and money for adults who don't want to have to deal with the accountability that comes along with this. And I could tell a longer version of this story, Clay, but you know, one thing that's, that's getting attention right now is how we need more kids in this country. Elon's talking about it. We'll talk about it today on the show. We need more kids. And another thing is we need more family formation. We need families to take more responsibility and put less responsibility on the state. I know people that went. And did you have anyone from who did Teach for America in your class coming out of gw?
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Drew Goins
Not my class, but Katie, who is my personal assistant now, but initially was helping with the kids. She did Teach for America when she graduated from Florida State, which is how she ended up in, in Nashville in the first place.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, so I mean, my college girlfriend went into Teach for America right out of, you know, sort of my college sweetheart, if you or whatever went into Teach for America. And I remember catching up with her years later. And a very short version of some much more in depth conversation is it doesn't really matter what the resources are in the classroom. It doesn't matter how new the computers are, how many administrative staff are hovering around outside the classroom. It's which kids have parents who show up on Parent Teacher Day. That was the Met. And I've been told this by numerous people in the system. It is. And you could say, look, obviously if someone's mom gets the flu, she can't come. Doesn't mean she's a bad mom. But the point is, the indicators that you can look at are their parents at home. Do the parents care? Are they involved?
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Drew Goins
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Matters more than anything, these teachers unions are going to squeeze out of the taxpayer by orders of magnitude. But Randi Weingarten will never talk about that. Notice how she, she just, she's just there to get more money out of all of you. She's there to talk about how it's for the children, just like it wasn't for the children during COVID lockdowns. That was so adults could sit at home and get paid their full salary and do nothing. It's not about the children now. So much so that she'll have them reading this. Look, remember when Ron DeSantis showed what they were, what they were trying to put in Florida schools, which he banned. Thank you, Governor DeSantis. Or you know, got kicked out of the schools. They couldn't show it on the news. Clay, if you can't show it on a news channel without blurring it, why are you showing it to third graders in school?
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Drew Goins
No, it. It is and I pulled it up. We need to go into some of the things that are being taught. Even the left wing judges on the Supreme Court yesterday seemed taken aback by the idea. Remember, this is something that has building for some time. Florida passed a law that said kindergarten or first, second, third graders, KK to 3 should not be taught any kind of sex or gender ideology. I can't imagine a sane parent listening to us right now that thinks that their kindergarten, kindergarten to third grader needs to be taught sex and gender. Related stories in public school, frankly, any school, but certainly not public school. And again, the thing that's wild about this is Muslim, Christian, Jewish parents in Montgomery county all came together and said this is unacceptable. Why in the world is this happening? We managed to do the unbelievable and unite every religious group in common condemnation of the absurdity of what their kids are being taught.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
I welcome back into Clay and Buck. Clay is sending me some of the actual examples here. At issue with the Supreme Court on the books that are, are in are in schools. I just want to say I am, I am generally militantly pro book. I think Clay is as well.
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Drew Goins
That's fair. Yes.
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Clay Travis
And I'm very pleased. I don't think I mentioned this in the show. I actually went to the Miami beach library and went to donate a whole bunch. I had boxes of books that I just don't have space for anymore. I try not to keep soft covers. I know, I know. But, you know, I don't have space and they fall apart. So I donated. And the, the woman in charge of receiving the donation is a huge Clay and Buck listener. So Charlotte, really appreciate you listening. She was very pleased. She was listening and it was great to see her. I. When I came in, Clay, I thought she was gonna fall over for a second. So it was really nice. She's like, you're here. I was like, yes, I am. So I love books. And I think what they're doing there. I think libraries are fabulous and super important. And I'm all about if you can get your. If you can get your kids to start doing one thing early in life as a habit. I don't know if there's a better or more fundamental one, at least in the realm of, you know, activity than reading.
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Drew Goins
I agree.
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Clay Travis
Whatever that is, just get them reading. Just get them reading. Okay. I'm. I am an absolute evangelist on this. It's the most important thing that my parents encouraged me to do when I was Younger. And it's just. I. Right, Clay? I mean, I think that that's, you know, whether your kid is good or not at geometry, I can speak from experience. Does not matter in his life. Okay. It doesn't matter. Whether your kid reads or not matters. It matters.
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Drew Goins
My rule as a parent has been if you will read it, I will buy it for you. Now, my kids have never tried to get me to buy, I don't know, you know, tantric sex, you know, for you. Never actually. But it. Any book that a kid would want to read, that is a normal book that a kid would read, I would buy for them. Was my rule.
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Clay Travis
But. But to see, I. I just want to establish that. Cause you got two guys here who love truly, like love, but he writes books. My book, by the way, coming out this fall, all ready to go. Publishers got it all lined up. So it actually is happening. CIA finally cleared it. Some cool stuff in there. We're going to throw some book parties out there. It's going to be fun. Gotta do one in Nashville. So, you know, Clay can hang out, but there's gonna be book parties and all that good stuff. But I just wanted to say, do you have two guys here who are, I would say are almost maniacal about pushing books for. For everybody, Adults, kids, everyone. You gotta be reading, gotta be reading. Most important thing as a daily kid, get more sleep, read more, probably drink a little less alcohol. Like this is the most important advice that I think most people could hear. Okay with that. All said, Clay. You like movies, I like movies. We talk about movies on the show. You like watching movies with your kids. There are clearly movies that would be inappropriate for your youngest boy, is what, 10? Am I right?
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Drew Goins
10?
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Molly Roberts
Yeah.
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Drew Goins
10. Fourth grader.
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Clay Travis
There are clearly movies that you would never dream of sitting down with. And I'm not even just talking about like adult movies, obviously, that's a whole other thing I'm talking about. There are clearly movies you wouldn't watch with one of your young boys, and it's not even a conversation.
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Drew Goins
And TV shows. And you all know it as parents. That's why we have PG, PG 13. R rated movies. It's the entire basis of helping parents to decide what's appropriate for kids at different ages. And by the way, every kid's different. Some kids may be ready for advanced material. I've read that earlier than others. Some people might do better with violence than not scary movies. All these things. Parents all understand this. Buck. Listen to these two books.
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Clay Travis
I was going to. I was going to put this, yes, you can, you can dive into. There's so many of these. My point is merely, we do this all the time. With everything else, we should do it with grammar school kids reading lists. Go pick out some of the craziest ones that are before the Supreme Court.
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Drew Goins
They just look, this is Montgomery County, Maryland. They just had a Supreme Court case over this. This is a lot of Christian, Jewish and Muslim parents said, we object to the story time books that you are reading to our kindergartners in public schools. This is from the Wall Street Journal. Here are two of them. My Rainbow is about an autistic child named Trinity who says I need long hair because I'm a transgender girl. It ends with a surprise gift from Trinity's mother, a teal pink and purple wig. It teaches. My Rainbow does that sometimes doctors get biology, gender, sex, wrong kindergartners. Is this a book like if you were, if you were buck in, if you remember being in school or maybe some of you have gone and volunteered and read some of these books to kids. This is like you used to read, you know, the Little Engine that could, you know, something like that. We have something called the Dolly Parton Imagination Library here. Well, they will send you all these books that are perfect for three, four, five year old kids. They are not particularly ideological in any way. It's just green eggs and ham, right? It's. It's Dr. Seuss, it's the Cat in the Hat, it's the, the Little Engine that could. All of these books. Goodnight Moon, that you may have shown up and read to kids of all different groups at some point in time.
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Clay Travis
I just wanted to note that with COVID it was how dare you question doctors or think that doctors could get anything wrong. But it is baked into the gender ideology stuff now that a doctor can get it wrong when he looks at a baby's genitals and determines gender at birth.
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Drew Goins
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Think about how insane that is. They're saying that doctors get. They're not saying that. There's not. Oh, you know, it's impossible for doctors to know. They're saying the doctor gets it wrong.
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Drew Goins
Which they would never say about an instructed to teach. Buck here is directly from what teachers in Montgomery county were instructed to teach. Kindergarteners, first graders. If a child suggests it's weird to say a girl can become a boy. I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal. The proposed response is to say that comment is hurtful and that when each of us is born, people make a guess about our gender. Kindergarten, first grade, second grade, here's another one, Buck. Born Ready is about Penelope, who tells her mother, I don't feel like a boy. I am a boy. After this single discussion, the mother answers with unquestioning affirmation. Yes, we will make a plan to tell everyone we love. This is crazy town, Buck. I mean, legit insane. When I read this, even as a parent, I couldn't believe that any kid would be exposed to this in a school.
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Clay Travis
And I think this is so important because you see this time and again when you're dealing with the left on especially anything having to do with indoctrination in the schools and specifically of young. Of young people, people whose minds are being molded by the adults in their. In their world, the environment around them. Clay, they're being. They're being. First of all, they're being told us what happens if Penelope wakes up the next day and says, no, I'm actually a girl. Right.
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Drew Goins
I guess you flip back. I don't know. Yeah, you have to tell everybody that you're now a girl. Again, the.
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Clay Travis
The notion that the affirmation cannot be switched is simply insane. And here's the other part of this. They want this to be taught. It's not like we have shown this. We have exposed this. And the Democrats, the left, the gender ideologues out there have said, oh, wow, I didn't realize it was like this. You're right. Let's make some adjustments to this. Clay, this is a hill that they will die on over and over again. So ask yourself, why is it so important to them? They try to put the burden on us. Why are you banning books in schools, which is a lie. No one's banning books. We're limiting the reading list or the library list for young children the same way, Clay, you limit movies for your kids the same way I will limit for my son. What movie when he's 8 years old. We're not going to be sitting there watching Terminator 1 together like that's not going to happen. OK? They are the one. Why is it so important to them? And I don't ask that question, Clay, just rhetorically. They clearly think that this is a means of locking in this belief into the broader population so that it's not a 9010 issue in 10 years, in 20 years, so that they can get closer to having the apparatus of the state mandate this insanity.
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Drew Goins
And it's also a function of. You're setting these kids up for a great deal of difficulty in the years ahead. The same people who are screaming that science is under attack are simultaneously telling you that doctors get baby genders wrong. And you know how impressionable young kids are. If you raise young kids. The reason to your point, Buck, that they want 5, 6, and 7 year olds being exposed to these kind of stories is because they're desperately trying to make sense of the world around them, and their minds are so incredibly impressionable. And I just. I think Republicans have done a really poor job responding on this issue because you hit on the attack. It's, oh, they're trying to ban books. And we can have arguments about reasonable. I mean, parent arguments about at what age is it appropriate to read certain aggressively sexual works. Right. Is it 16? Is it 14? Is it 18? Is like, in the same way that we can talk about what age movies are appropriate.
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Clay Travis
Can I just. What you see, though, Clay, is that these are suggested reading lists. It's even more. You see what I know.
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Drew Goins
It's a pernicious buck. This is beyond that. They're actually reading them to the kids in story time.
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Clay Travis
This. This is exactly what I mean.
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Drew Goins
It's not crazy.
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Clay Travis
It's not even. We have to stop kids as they get older from stumbling upon this. It is, this must be read to children as a function of school policy at the youngest possible age. Why does this matter to them so much? It's a little bit like, why do we have to have men dressed as women doing drag queen story hour for kids? They don't do this for adults.
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Drew Goins
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Why are they always doing. Why is it always for the little. And by the way, they don't do it for high school or college kids. Because I'll tell you, when I was in high school, if some guy showed up and was like, I'm really a woman, I'd be like, no, you're not. So why are they doing this to little kids? There's something very dark and very wrong that's going on here, and I will just say it, and you know it. First of all, Randy Weingarten, who's supposed to be the old grandma who cares about the kids so much, she totally defends this. She's all on board for this. Think about that. This is the mainstream education apparatus pushing this nonsense.
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Drew Goins
And this is something where even if you're not like, I'm not a parent who's ever objected to anything that my kids have read in school, and I feel very fortunate. I love the public schools that my kids have gone to. I've got one in public school right now, and I've never objected to anything that my older kids have been asked to read. I appreciate the schools that they are in now. I've got no issues with with my kids schools at all. But if I had a kindergartner, first grader, second grader, third grader, heck, I mean this is crazy town. I would object to them being forced to sit and watch a teacher read books like this to them. And I don't know buck that again. We have the Dolly Parton Imagination Library here. I have read a ton of kids books to my kids over the years and they have fortunately read at least two of them of the three are willing to read. But I can't imagine that there are thousands of books that would be great for a kindergarten teacher to read to kids. That has nothing to do with any particular political slant. That has nothing to do with anything. Anything other than encouraging them to like stories and like reading and maybe also build up their toughness a little bit like the Little Engine that could. Hey, if I think I can do something, I can right? This is wild.
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Clay Travis
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Drew Goins
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Clay Travis
Clay and Buck Podcast network on the one hand trying to stop a war with Iran. On the other hand telling us the day to day on the David Rutherford show of how to be a man, how to be a dad. So we cover a lot of ground.
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Drew Goins
No doubt, absolute wide range. And I covered a lot of ground this morning for breakfast in downtown Franklin, Tennessee, which is a Hallmark town if there's ever been a town. And I was with Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum, formerly the governor of North Dakota. And you've got governor secretary. You got so many different titles now, but we talked about a wide range of, of of issues. But I want to start with this because I remember the first time we had you on was right after you injured yourself playing basketball during the 20 presidential election cycle. You've now recovered from that. But you told me that back in 1998 you got to participate in Michael Jordan's basketball camp. That had to be an unbelievable opportunity. I want our audience to hear what that might have been like.
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Molly Roberts
Well, first of all, Clay, great to have breakfast with you Pockets in your hometown. Fantastic revival any of the great breakfast places in North Dakota. But yeah, what a life experience to go to the Michael Jordan basketball camp. People think, oh, you're going to meet Michael Jordan. Part of the way he ran that it was 80 people over age 35 and you come and they have eight teams of 10, 16 of the top college coaches. My coaches were John Thompson and Dean Smith, my buddy from North Dakota that came to the camp with me. He had Roy Williams and Luke Olson. So we're playing for national championship coaches. I mean, there was one instance we're in a quote game and I got Dean Smith and John Thompson chatting on the sidelines with each other, not even paying attention to us guys out there on the floor. We're playing Coach K. And I was point or I called a timeout and the coach was a little upset. He's like, what do you think your coach now? And I said, he said, you like getting yelled at? I said, well, I think it could help. We're down three in a close game, and this is the only chance I'm ever going to say I was able to play in a team that beat Coach K. But what an. What an experience.
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Clay Travis
Well, Doug, it's Buck. I didn't get to have breakfast with you, but maybe you'll come down to Miami beach sometime. We can go get some ceviche or something. And I want to ask you about your portfolio as Interior Secretary, which doesn't get as much, I think, attention in the news as some of the other major agencies of the federal government. But it is a vast, a vast entity, vast organization with a lot of really important responsibilities. A lot of people think of national parks, but you've also got mining rights. I mean, you got a whole range of things. And we don't have time to go over all of it, obviously. I want you to tell me, what are your top priorities right now? I mean, I know you're working with Tyler Hassan. Funny story, Tyler. I went to school together in New York. We were little kids a long time ago. So I haven't seen him in a while. But he's a Doge guy. So there's a cleaning up, an efficiency part of this. There's a mining part of this. What are the top priorities for the Interior Secretary right now?
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Molly Roberts
Well, it's as simple as this. I mean, we're supporting President Trump's agenda to bring peace abroad, which is, you know, end the wars against us and around the world that are be funding. They're all being funded, whether it's 24 terrorist groups being funded by Iran or the conflicts in Eastern Europe being funded by Russia's oil sales. You know, we need to be in a position with energy dominance, where we're selling energy to our friends and allies so they don't have to buy it from our adversaries so that we can fund both sides of a war. But when we do that, we also bringing prosperity at home. Because energy is not just an industry. Energy is the industry that supports every other. There's a component in the food you eat, the car you drive, the food on your table. There's an energy component. We bring energy prices down, we bring the price of everything down. We bring prosperity at home. And then you say, well, what does Interior have to do with this? Well, you know, with the vision of early leadership and then certainly expanded by Theodore Roosevelt, the United States of America, the Balance sheet of the United States of America. A lot of that in Interior. 500 million acres of surface land, 700 million acres of subsurface filled with rich minerals and energy sources, and then 2.5 billion offshore. If Interior was a standalone company, it would have the largest balance sheet of anyone in the world, any company in the world. And we all hear about every election cycle, oh, this United States woe is us. We got $36.5 trillion in debt. And, yeah, we've got stop spending more each fiscal year than we bring in, start paying down the debt. But the asset side of the balance sheet could be triple what we have there. We could have $100 trillion of assets. So one of the things that we're working on is trying to actually, for the first time, build out the balance sheet of America so we can see just how wealthy we are. And then, of course, using these resources for the benefit and the use of the American people, that's what they were put away for these public lands. And under Obama and Biden, they were going to make sure that we didn't cut a tree. They killed the timber industry. We weren't going to do mining. We weren't going to develop our energy resources, whether it's oil or gas or coal. Now we find ourselves in this battle with China, where they're controlling 85% of the processing of rare earths and critical minerals which we need for defense and electronics. And so this is literally when I say peace abroad, prosperity at home. Interior is right in the mix of the fight on all the core principles of President Trump's agenda.
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Drew Goins
We're talking to Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum. One thing that I think is so incredibly important, and some people get it, but others do not, and we were talking about it some at breakfast, is a lot of these climate change zealots have bought into a process by which they restrict our ability to create clean oil and gas. Here I say clean relative to international standards. And instead of allowing us to produce it here, they then buy it, oftentimes from our enemies that use the money they make from our oil and gas purchases to work against American interest. And it's also produced much less refined. It's dirtier, in other words, and worse for the environment. So they think they are being morally superior, but they're actually creating a dynamic of oil and gas purchase that makes the world worse, less clean, and also gives more power to authoritarians who bear us ill will. Can you break that down a little bit more? Because I think it's so Important for people to understand. And as Secretary of the Interior, it's a huge part of what you do.
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Molly Roberts
Well, that was a fantastic summary. And again, this, yeah, like most recently the Biden climate extremism. You know, they claimed they were saving the planet, but they weren't doing anything, anything to diminish demand. They were just shifting supply. And when you shift supply away from the US to our adversaries who do not approach it with the same care, because if you cared about the environment, you would insist that every electron of electricity, that every ounce of a liquid fuel of any form of energy was produced here in the United States because we do it cleaner, smarter, safer, healthier than anyone else on the planet. And so again, you get these bizarre things were, hey, I'm going to block a pipeline going through New York of clean natural gas from Pennsylvania going into New England. We're going to vote that down because the state of New York and we believe we're saving the planet. Meanwhile, because they do that now in the state of Maine, 80% of the homes are heated by heating oil, 41% of the homes in New Hampshire. At the time of the Russian invasion of New Hampshire, we were offloading in our country 400,000 barrels a day equivalent of dirty Russian heating oil to heat homes in New England because we couldn't get clean Pennsylvania, US Natural gas to them because we're going to block a pipeline. I mean, the absurdities and essentially the lie around somehow stopping energy production or transportation in America was good for the global environment or good for our environment, none of that's true. It's all false. And then it raises the price. I mean, the price of natural gas in New England in some places is triple what it is in Pennsylvania. And that's so unfair to Americans because we. Low priced energy is what's going to bring manufacturing back onshore. It's what's going to help us win the AI arms race against China. It's what's going to help people pay their bills and it's going to bring down even the price of groceries when we have lower energy prices. So again, we're in a battle of common sense here and we're fighting for every American because every American deserves to have access to clean, low cost, affordable, reliable energy.
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Clay Travis
Speaking to Interior Secretary Doug Burgum and Mr. Secretary, Rare Earth minerals getting a lot of attention these days, particularly because of the back and forth with China and the trade negotiations and where we get our rare earth minerals from. First, how does that play into. I mean, maybe you give us A few things. Why do we need them? How does China play into this? And how do we get more rare earth minerals here, domestic sources in America?
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Molly Roberts
Well, the. Because as I said earlier, the massive amounts of federal and public lands that we have, 700 million acres, a lot of it in the western United States that are these public lands that are rich with all kinds of minerals and whether they're minerals, critical minerals, rare earth minerals, I mean, anything, copper, silver, gold, but all the things we need, antimony, we need for ammunition. There's other things that we need just to be able to manage electronic and defense sectors. China has been well here at home with Obama, Biden declaring a war on, on mining in our country, just like they had a war on, on oil and oil and gas production. We are, you know, turning that around 180 degrees. So in addition to drill baby drill with President Trump, we've got a mine, baby mine. And to do that, we've got to be able to permit and we've got to be able to actually be able to get capital from the private sector going to work. We have literally killed the mining industry in this country. And of course, China has exploited that. They now control, as I said earlier, 85% of the processed rare earth minerals that we need. It's a lever that they can use in the battles that we're in with them right now. We've got to get ourselves back in this game and we've got to make sure that we're supporting that. But under President Trump, Trump is starting to happen. And whether that is, you know, again, coal. We need coal for two reasons. We need for producing electricity, we also need it. There's metallurgical coal. In that metallurgical coal, there are rare earth minerals that we need and there's base materials like coke, which we need for steel making in this country. We, I was, I was, you know, we had a thing called Fast 41 that we discovered it was a way to speed up projects. There have only been two mining projects ever put on there. President Trump put 10 on there last week. There's dozens more that are coming soon. Resolution copper mine, 30 year saga of trying to get a permit to start. We tackled this right after President Trump, he put out the executive orders. We have an energy emergency. We need to expedite this stuff in three months. Now we've got approvals for starting of the Resolution Copper Mine in Arizona. And then again at a rare earth mining operation. There's a gold mine in California. They can also pull rare earth minerals out of that same operation, we're fast tracking all of that. So we're working around the clock to get back in the mining game. Because if we don't, this is a situation where again, we could end up losing. Our technology is better, our resources is better, everything we've got is better. But because of bureaucracy and ideology around climate, we end up losing this AI arms race to China. That would be a sad thing.
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Drew Goins
Last question for you. You are going to be, I believe you're going to be bringing a new park into the, into the country. And it's one that President Trump announced earlier this year down in Texas with Jocelyn Nungare and her family. What can you tell us about what you're doing there?
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Molly Roberts
Well, we're heading, we'll be there tomorrow. And this is a existing U.S. fish and Wildlife refuge that had a, is being renamed in honor of Jocelyn Nungare. And of course, unfortunately, America knows her story. A 12 year old, beautiful young woman who was tragically and horribly murdered and killed by illegal immigrants. President Trump acknowledged her mother and her sister. They were present at the, in the House chambers when he was giving his joint address to the two chambers this year. Touching moment for sure. Any of us that are parents, hard to, hard to think about what it would be like to lose your 12 year old daughter for any reason, but for those reasons in particular. But she loved wildlife and loved the outdoors and President Trump wants to make sure that she's remembered forever. And so we're renaming this US Fish and Wildlife refuge. We changed the name on the electronic maps the day after he gave that beautiful speech that he delivered to the whole country. But we'll be there tomorrow with the family. Many extended family members. Could be more than 20 people from the Nungaree family there, including Jocelyn's mother and sister and others. And we'll be there in person and we're going through the physical renaming of all the signage around the park and we'll be there. And I'm sure that's going to be a touching moment for all involved. But again, it's just something that's so genuine of President Trump who, who generally cares about the people in our country. And that's why he's fighting so hard every day to make sure that we've got safe and secure borders and that we've, you know, bring peace to the world.
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Clay Travis
Secretary of the Interior Doug Bergen, appreciate you being with us, sir. Thank you so much.
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Molly Roberts
Well, great to be with both of you and look forward to be back on and thank you both for all you do and helping helping inspire America to be to be reach our fullest potential whether it's the parents or as a country. So thanks for all you do gentlemen.
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Drew Goins
Thank you.
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The president about it this morning. He is not going to give up on ensuring that there are fair trade practices around the world. He is not giving up up on the fact that China has been ripping off the United States of America for far too long. And President Trump has brought hundreds of countries now from around the world to the negotiating table. We have 18 proposals on paper from nations around the world who recognize that they have in fact been ripping off the United States. And there's a president in the Oval Office right now who is no longer going to tolerate it. So this is the art of the deal. President Trump is using the leverage leverage of the United States to bring nations to the negotiating table. That includes China, who he remains very optimistic there will be a fair trade deal with China that finally puts American workers and American industry first.
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Clay Travis
Yep. Part of the deal. Trump's doing his thing as we knew.
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Drew Goins
That he would all along.
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Clay Travis
No one's going to tell him not to. He is the Trumpster and he will be judged by his results on this one. And he knows that. And he also, I think, deserve, you know, a lot of things. Clay, what I've said, look, he's been right on so many things where even a lot of Republicans were saying, oh, no, you can't do that. His whole political story is being right when everyone says you can't do that or pushing through what everyone says it's impossible. But on China specifically, he's the only one who's doing anything, or rather, he's the only one who's been in a position to do anything, who's been willing to look at this issue. You speak to Anybody. And I mean, I saw Mr. Wonderful, Kevin O'Leary was on TV recently talking about how. And I've heard this from other people. You know, I was in. I was in China for a business conference in 2019, and it was very, very interesting, very eerie thing. I don't know how many of you have been to China. Some of you have probably been missionaries there or something, have been there for 20 years and speak Mandarin. But, and I say that not kidding. I'm sure there are a few of you who that's the case place. But when you go there, it is like you're on another planet a lot of ways. Just because things that you cannot take certain things for granted at all. And you're very mindful of who you're speaking to and what you're saying and what you're Googling, or rather not Googling, because you can't Google, but you know, what you're doing on the Internet and the theft of intellectual property. I mean, think about this, Clay. You want to do business in China, you run a company that, you know, makes widget, widgets, you know, the Crockett Widget Company. We decide we're going to set up shop. Oh, we want access to China's market. Ok, cool. So we do a joint venture with a Chinese company because the Chinese government mandates it, and then we do this joint venture with them and then they set up shop down the road with government backing, taking all the stuff that we've brought with us, replicating it, starting a new company, shutting down our joint venture. And we can't sue, we can't do anything. It's see you later here. That is standard operating procedure in the People's Republic of China. That is what goes on there, Clay. It's why companies don't want to do business with them and they get away with this stuff all the time.
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Drew Goins
I would point out that if you question Trump's wisdom on tariffs in the way that he responded to China, do you know that the only thing Joe Biden didn't change when he took office. Yeah, Trump's tariffs on China. And it sort of has slipped under the radar that that occurred. But think about all the executive orders that Joe Biden put in place the minute that he got to the Oval Office. One of the most controversial things that Trump did, we were told, was China trade policy and the tariffs that he implemented to try to make Chinese trade policy fairer with the United States. So many people squawked in opposition. Biden got in office, never changed him, kept them.
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Clay Travis
Biden Here you go. A little Fun throwback here. January 2022, President Biden's administration has left tariffs in place on $350 billion of Chinese goods imposed by his predecessor, Donald Trump. Trump, hmm.
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Drew Goins
It might be the thing they agreed on, Buck. It might. I mean it legitimately. And initially they all said this was unacceptable, it was going to destroy the economy. Biden comes into office, he left them all in place.
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Clay Travis
So I just think that speaks volumes about this. And also you notice how people that were saying, oh, why is he tearing up NAFTA with the US Mexico Canada Agreement? Because the US Mexico Canada Agreement's better. He was right. All the people that were saying, why is he messing with nafta? NAFTA was old. NAFTA needed to be updated. There were problems with nafta, and he did. So do you hear anyone saying, we need to get rid of US Mexico, Canada now? No, of course not. Did Biden try to do that? No, of course not. Right. So there's a track record here, Clay, that I don't think anybody should ignore if they want to have any sense as to what's possible here and what the likely outcomes could be.
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Drew Goins
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Clay Travis
Of Buchanan, there's a lot of people. We could throw it in the mix, but go ahead.
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Drew Goins
But, but I mean, I think Ross Perot, one of his top issues was he said that NAFTA was going to be a net negative for American middle class jobs. And I think that much of the argument that he made has in many ways been proved to be prescient. In other words, he's been proven to be right. And people forget how many voters he got. Back in 1992, as all of this NAFTA free trade discussion was beginning, there were a lot of people kind of tiptoeing into it, not really understanding what we were headed for. And there is an element, I know it's whatever, 40 years later, basically. But there is a strong element of Trump trade policy that is evoking and echoing the arguments that Ross Perot was making as long ago as 92. And to your point, Buck, there are many people who made them, but I just remember Ross Perot in particular getting savaged over these arguments that he was making. And I bet Trump agreed with a lot of them back in the day, because Trump's on record talking about this back in the 80s with Oprah Winfrey. I mean, some of that. Some of that footage has come out of him. The one thing he's been consistent on is the fact that I was getting our lunchies.
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Clay Travis
I don't think you can find, other than liking pretty ladies. I don't think you can find anything that Donald Trump has been more consistent on in public life, period, than tariffs and China. I don't know what else. You know, maybe deal making is important, you know, but there's nothing on a policy level that you can point to where he's been consistent as long as he has on this issue. And I think that for all the reasons we've laid out, we should see where he's able to take this. Here we go. VIP Robert wrote this. Didn't Clay on Trump China pull a line from the movie Roadhouse, Be nice until it's time not to be nice? I think that. First of all, great, great reference. Roadhouse, one of the most watchable, absurd movies ever made.
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Drew Goins
Remade it, and now they're making a roadhouse too, right? You watched? I never saw the remake. No, I.
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Clay Travis
But I. I don't even have to. It had, like, the little Irish MMA guy in it. What's his name? Not the new one. Patty. Yeah. Conor McGregor. No, no, no.
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Drew Goins
I don't know if I want to be on record with Buck as saying that Conor McGregor is a little Irish guy.
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Clay Travis
I'm not sure that's fair. I'm not saying he can't fight and.
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Drew Goins
He can't kick my ass.
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Clay Travis
I'm just saying he's not an actor.
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Drew Goins
I'm gonna be having to get us somewhere, and there's gonna be a tap on my shoulder, and that little Irish guy is gonna be there kicking my ass, and I'm gonna be like, no, it was Baku said it. I didn't have anything to do with it. NJ Gillen all is the bat is playing the. The lead role, right? Yeah. It's set in the. It is a.
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Clay Travis
It. It is a Patrick Swayze classic. For those of you who have not seen it, it is absolutely absurd. Like, the whole. He lives across the lake from the main bad guy. He's like, somehow knows karate. He went to nyu.
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Drew Goins
Like, none of it adds up.
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Clay Travis
The movie makes absolute. He. He goes. He gets stabbed in a knife fight, and the nurse who's tending to him is like a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model who lives in Gorgeous.
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Molly Roberts
Who.
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Clay Travis
Who lives in this small town and then wants to go roll around with this guy in, like, the actual barn that he lives in. I mean, I'M just look, look, not all heroes wear capes. It was pretty amazing that he was able to pull this off in the movie. But yes, it is very, very Sam Elliott. By the way, some great Sam Elliott stuff. What does he keep. Does he call him Kimo Sabe or what's his Me me me Miho. He calls him Miho in the movie.
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Drew Goins
Is there a bet this is a fun debate. Is there a better 1980s era range of actors range than Patrick Swayze for wildly successful movies that had nothing in common? Because if you think about just off the top of my head Ghost, Dirty Dancing and Roadhouse, like the difference between Roadhouse and Ghost is or Roadhouse and.
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Clay Travis
I guess Point break is is 90s.
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Drew Goins
But point break would be another great one to add. And then and some of you are going to remember this and this is the history nerd in me. He also played a Civil War soldier or this is. I don't know how many of you even going to remember this was this Civil War.
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Clay Travis
Civil War Camp Clay.
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Drew Goins
Did you watch this movie?
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Clay Travis
Yeah, this.
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Drew Goins
We just sat around and watched this movie. And he played a Confederate general Ori Maine from South Carolina. The range of Patrick Swayze excellence to your point, if you was point break 1990 it might have been just the very right around that. But I mean if you think about Ghost, if you think about Dirty Dancing, Roadhouse, north and south and Love and War which was like this television miniseries epic based on the John Jakes novels of the Civil War and man, I may well have super nerded myself out there. I don't know how many of you read these in the 80s, but I did. And then because of the miniseries was so popular. Patrick Swayze might have had the best acting career of anyone range super successful movies in the 1980s. I mean like Arnold Schwarzenegger basically played Arnold Schwarzenegger. Right. Sylvester Stallone basically played Sylvester Stallone. I know there's some exceptions. Like Arnold Schwarzenegger was in twins with Danny DeVito where he was funny.
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Clay Travis
What about Kindergarten Cop? It's not a tumor, it's one of his.
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Drew Goins
There are a few expert. Oh oh. Michael Berry, our buddy down in Houston just texted me Red Dawn. I mean remember how good he was Swayze and Red dawn in the 1980s. And as part.
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Clay Travis
I mean I just want to say well played, Mr. Barry. Well played.
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Drew Goins
He's got a great show in Houston for those of you that are listening to us right now. But I mean think about it. Is he. This is a. This may be the most aggressive crazy Argument I've made is Patrick Swayze the most underrated 1980s movie actor of all time?
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Clay Travis
I don't know if he could, I.
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Drew Goins
I, I don't think he's not underrated enough.
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Clay Travis
I don't think he's underrated. I think that, well, he passed away of cancer, sadly, some years ago, but I don't, I just think that he didn't, he didn't stay as big for like, long, but I think that he was, I think in the 80s, he was a true leading man and, and was, was getting his doom. Look at the movies.
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Drew Goins
He's the best 1980s actor. If you consider.
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Clay Travis
Now you're getting, now you're getting crazy.
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Drew Goins
Now you're calling range on range. I think there's a sway, there's an under, under disrespected, under the radar argument for Patrick Swayze's excellence.
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Clay Travis
Your generation, you, you Gen X people like Pacino and De Niro way too much. So that's always, that always comes up in this.
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Drew Goins
I've never been. Robert De Niro plays the same character in everything.
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Clay Travis
Same thing in everything. The same, you know, Italian Mafioso, like, yes, the whole, the whole thing. I, I've never, I think that I would put them in the really overrated category, actually, of actors. Yeah, that's, that's a hot take for you. Some of the people in the Northeast, we got a lot of New Jersey, New York listeners, they're not going to like that one, but I'm just telling you. Okay, yeah, Goodfellas is very watchable, but like, let's calm down. It's not as great as everybody pretends.
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Drew Goins
Michael Barry still firing, by the way. The Outsiders, all 1980s. I'm, I'm going to maybe have to die on this hill, but I think Harris.
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Clay Travis
Harrison Ford was big, was huge in the 80s. Indiana Jones. Right. So you, he, you're, you're saying best actor with range.
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Drew Goins
Range. Like he's Indiana, basically. Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones or Han Solo in those movies across the board. Right. The range of Dirty Dancing to Roadhouse to Red dawn. Is there better 1980s performance than Patrick Swayze? I'm not sure.
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Clay Travis
Sure.
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Drew Goins
I'm not sure we can beat him.
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Clay Travis
I don't, I would, I would love to disagree with you, but I actually can't come up with anything on the fly here to refute your argument, which makes me think that it's not as crazy as my initial.
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Drew Goins
I mean, like, Michael J. Fox was great. And I'm going to talk about testosterone here in a minute. But Michael J. Fox also wasn't taking over, you know, like a, a country right? In a, in a, in a, or a bar or whatever. It wasn't like an action hero. And you know Patrick Swayze in the 80s? You know what I bet he had, Buck Unbelievable levels of testosterone. I bet his testosterone levels were through the roof. You can't make pottery like that in Ghost. And then also simultaneously, simultaneously beat everybody's ass in Roadhouse without incredible levels of testosterone. He's a lover and he was a fighter, Buck. And you might need to be a lover and a fighter someday. And if so, you might need need more testosterone in your life. And that's what chalk does. C-H O Q.com they have all kinds of supplements out there for both men and women. Be the best natural version of yourself. Testosterone is the body's natural source of energy. Over time it declines. We were just talking about this earlier. RFK Jr was on with Jesse Waters talking about this. We had a discussion about how much difference the male vitality can create if you have higher testosterone levels also. So the female vitality stack helps women with hormone health. You can subscribe right now and get the best deal so you can be the Patrick swayze of the 2000s and make sure that you are hooked up with unbelievable levels of testosterone. Chalk.com Chalk.com My name Clay Massive discount on any subscription for life. You can cancel at any time with the without any penalty at all. That's chalk.com my name C L A Y Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast. Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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