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Tom Homan
Yeah, I think it's a big move. And I actually am coming right from the White House, Buck, where I just talked with Tom Homan, and we're gonna play some of that, I think, in the third hour, focusing on exactly what they're going to do to ratchet up this pressure on individuals involved in trying to cover in violation of federal law for illegal immigrants. And this is something that I think we've hit on and I think it's important for people to. And Tom Homan laid it out, and he's laid it out before, and we've made this clear. They believe that because Joe Biden let 10 million illegals into this country over the last four years. Tom Homan just told me, Buck, that he thinks there's over 20 million illegals, is the number that he would put it at roughly in the country right now. And they have made it so difficult to deport illegals from this country that he thinks, and I think the only explanation for this is somewhere down the line they're going to get amnesty. And Democrats think they've added a lot of voters. That's the only thing that makes sense here. And in order to keep that from becoming a reality, you have to deport people. It's one thing to stop. That's the first, you know, if. What's the first rule of being a physician? Do no harm. Right. We've at least stopped the harm on the illegal border crossings because effectively the border is completely shut down. But now they have decided to make the battleground, whether or not you can deport these individuals. And you know how they've done it, Buck? They have basically enlisted 600 some odd federal district court judges who believe that their judicial ruling should overrule the choice of the executive of the United States, that is the president. And so right now, they are of the opinion that they just have to outlast Donald Trump and maybe AOC comes in or whoever the Democrats are able to get elected, border gets wide opened again, and we pour tens of millions of more people right back into the country. That's the big battle that we're fighting. And getting people out is where they've decided that they're going to lay down athwart the Trump train and try to keep it from continuing to move.
Buck Sexton
I think that this is also, Clay, when you see, once again, the people who claim to be. So they're legal formalists when it comes to every layer of process upon process.
Tom Homan
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
To, let's be clear, to stop deportations. I'm not even just talking about, in general stop deportations of criminal illegal aliens. We have to come up with a better term for this. Right. Because an illegal alien has committed a crime. But, I mean, look, we are rational and honest people. We understand there's a difference between somebody who is in their 50s and has been here for 20 years illegally and has been, you know, working in the service industry, or, you know, there's a difference in the urgency to get them out or the urgency of handling their case than there is for somebody who's an MS.13 gang member, who is a threat to kill people, to rob people, has done that, has, as a wife beater, is violent. Right. They want to stop the latter from being deported. We're not even talking about that initial category right now. But, Clay, they're a legal formalist. The law is the law. Oh, we need to bring an MS.13 gang member, which is now a designated terrorist organization. So the gang terrorism thing is, and their narco terrorism has been a real thing for a long. Pablo Escobar was a narco guy and a terrorist.
Tom Homan
Right.
Buck Sexton
I mean, so these things are not mutually exclusive at all. But they want to bring him back into the United States so that we can go through another layer of kicking him out of the United States and hope that they can subvert that layer and keep him in the country. That's what's really going on. But then they look at a statute that lays out, you cannot obstruct an image, you cannot aid and abet. Right. If immigration and Customs Enforcement. Clay was looking for somebody and they, and you know, an illegal came running up to my door and knocked on my door and said, hey, can you hide me? ICE is looking for me. And I said, yeah, sure, go to the back room. And then ICE knocks on my door and I say, I don't know what you're talking about. There's nobody on these premises who's that illegal. I'm obstructing. That's a violation of the same way that if somebody stole a car and I went up to the cops and I said, oh, the guy went that way when he really went the other way, or I was hiding them in my home. Aiding and abetting. You cannot do that. This judge did that. And the judge is not above the law. The judge should be held to the law. Once you start to get deeper, the Democrats have gotten used to, we just ignore the statutes on immigration in all respects that we don't like. That's not the game the Trump administration is going to allow them to play anymore. It's a big change.
Tom Homan
It's a huge change. And I think it's not only. This is one where I'm going to say, the message that you send is incredibly important, not only for the judge who's violating the law, but also for everyone else out there to understand that there are now consequences for doing this. This is one where you are sending not only a message to this individual judge who likely has violated the law based on the FBI arrest. Most people arrested federally have violated the law. Federal prosecutions have pretty good success rates. But it's other judges looking around and saying, oh, they're actually going to enforce it now. You know what's going to happen, don't you, Buck? This judge is going to turn into a left wing hero. This judge is going to be now the new face of judicial restraint. I'm telling you how this is going to play out. They're going to say, well, we wish we had had judges who would have stood up to Adolf Hitler during Nazi era Germany. This judge is going to become the new left wing hero, irrespective of whether she has behaved illegally. Look at who they decided to make their face at El Salvador and wife beating, human trafficking, illegal immigrant who's a member of a gang. You don't think they're going to use this judge in the Milwaukee area in a battleground state as the new flashpoint cultural pivot for defending democracy in America?
Buck Sexton
They may, but I don't think that this serves the Democrat parties.
Tom Homan
I'm not arguing I'm not arguing it's a good decision. I'm just saying this is what I think they're going to do.
Buck Sexton
But I think that's important. I think you're right that there will be people certainly on the left. I don't know if the mainstream Democrat Party is going to rally behind this judge. It really depends. As we find more. It depends, I think, on finding out more about who was she harboring allegedly, what was this individual story? You know, if this is a person, you know, who's got a bunch of DUIs and like, you know, an assault arrest on his record or something, I think that becomes a lot harder for them, and that then may change a little bit of how they position this. But a judge getting arrested by U.S. marshals for obstructing federal law enforcement is. Is a big deal, and we actually need more than. The judiciary is not above the law. That's the real message from this and from a lot of what we see going on right now. We've seemed to be led to believe, first of all, that the judiciary is nonpartisan, which unfortunately is a lie, just like journalism is nonpartisan. It's just. It's always been a lie. The judiciary is not nonpartisan, and I wish that they were different, but I know it's not different. And then beyond that, the judiciary has to be held to the same laws that all the rest of us are, irrespective of how importantly, how powerful their political beliefs may be on. On some issue. So this is. This is going to be very interesting because, Clay, I don't think this is the only one. Every major city in America, pretty much. When I say major, I think if you're talking about over a half a million people, let's say. So every. When I say major, I mean large. Every large city in America is a sanctuary jurisdiction, as far as I know. I think every single one. Well, what's going on with that? Where else are they doing this, right? Where else are these kinds of actions being taken that are violations of law, and what's that going to mean? So we'll. We'll take some. We'll take some calls on this. We'll dive into this some more. Also, our friend Pete Hegseth at the Pentagon is taking some very important steps, specifically with regard to COVID 19. COVID 19. Related service disruption, reinstatement. I can't think of a quicker way to say that than if you lost your job because of COVID in the military. You're getting your job back and they're working on getting that done. So we'll talk about that. I think that's really important. You know, I've got my family in town, so my mom, my dad, my sister, they've all met the baby. It's very exciting. So the New York contingent is here, and it's really fun to have three generations of Sextons all together. And there's a lot of memories that I have recorded from childhood that when James gets a little bit older, I'll be able to show him, thanks to Legacy Box, those old VHS tapes my dad took when I was a baby. We've transferred that on to digitized media thanks to Legacy Box. Legacy Box is so fun. Once you do this, the process of pulling all the stuff together, you fill up the box with it, you send it in. It's so easy. And then you get to enjoy this stuff whenever you have family meetings, family reunions, and then right now, running a $9 per tape sale. Legacy box $9 a tape. And digitizing those tapes means you move that content to the cloud. You can see them then on your phone, your smart TV or laptop, your iPad. Easy to watch and share. Legacy Box makes digitizing your memories easy. You pack up your old tapes, film and photos, and Legacy Box will take care of the rest. Digitize every last tape for just $9 a tape, 65% off regular prices, plus 90 days of free Legacy Box cloud access. Don't wait until it's too late. Visit legacybox.com buck to shop their $9 per tape sale. That's legacybox.com Buck Making America Great again.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Clay is in our nation's capital and he'll bring you some of that. He sat down with Tom Homan for an interview, so he's gonna be helming the show in the third hour. I got fam. I got all family in town here, and we're having a lot of fun with the baby. Clay, I keep being told by everybody that this baby. I'm. I'm. This is external. This is just what I'm being told. Everyone thinks their baby's the cutest baby ever, right? I mean, you thought your three boys were the cutest babies in the history of babies. That I understand. Obviously, I think the same about my little boy, but he's so well behaved that I'm being warned by family members that this is not normal and that we should not expect this the next time.
Tom Homan
He's sleeping. Well, like, no challenges, by and large.
Buck Sexton
He's. He just chills all day. He sleeps through the night. It's amazing.
Tom Homan
He already sleeps through the night.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
I mean, Carrie wakes him up to feed him and that's it. But that's he has to be woken up to feed once, and then he goes right back to sleep and he sleeps through the night and it's like, I don't even know. I. I tell this to people and they're like, what?
Tom Homan
Yeah, I've never heard of that happening. For what. He's.
Buck Sexton
My mom had four kids, right? You've got, you know, your mom had.
Tom Homan
Two and then we had three.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, you had three. My mom's like, I've never seen this before. So granny is coming in here and saying, I've never seen anything like it. So it's been pretty nice that.
Tom Homan
I mean, usually the. By far the toughest thing about having a newborn is the lack of sleep. So if you're handling the sleep already a couple of weeks in, like, that is unprecedented.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. I don't know. Whatever. Keeps saying, are you.
Tom Homan
Are you okay?
Buck Sexton
And everything. I'm like, am I okay? It is a fiddle. It's great. Baby's adorable. Carrie's doing great. You know, Anyway, I'm just. Maybe I shouldn't tell people this because people kind of look at me like, what do you. What do you mean? Like, it's like I'm skipping the hazing, but still joining the fraternity a little bit, you know, like, you're not dressing in a. In a chicken suit and like, you know, running over to sorority row or something. I mean, I'm like, no, I just. No hazing. Just going right to the. The fun part.
Tom Homan
So, yeah, that's pretty amazing. Hopefully it keeps up. But if it does, then that's the part that usually for the first six months or so is. Is brutal. Because once you get to about six months, the baby can start to have a little bit of personality. I mean, real personality, where you can start to kind of interact with the kid in a way. Three months, you start to get those smiles, stuff like that, which is good. But. But yeah, like, prior to that, um, there a lot. But. So if that's true, then that is. That's phenomenal.
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Buck Sexton
If I show up super haggard on the radio in a couple of weeks, we're all going to know it's because I jinxed this. And now the baby is, you know, not sleeping and we're having trouble. But for all of you who have been asking and all of you been so supportive, you, parents out there who have all welcomed me into your fraternity. It's a co ed fraternity. We actually had those at my school. A co ed fraternity. I was like, isn't that not really a fraternity then? But neither Here nor there. But yes, thank you so much for all your. All your well wishes. All right, let's talk about Pete. Secretary of Defense Hegseth. He is doing some important stuff over at the Pentagon. I, I still there. There are things that I will never let go, Clay, and I don't think you will either. About what happened during COVID that anybody involved in who has any bit of integrity, honor, decency, should admit that they were completely wrong, admit that what they did was, was awful, and try to make amends. Now, there are a number of those things, right? I mean, for Foushee, for example. Well, I could do a three hour show and we could just sit here and talk about all the awfulness of Foushee. But one of them was the rejection of natural immunity. One of the longest standing principles in immunology that exists. Remember, they just pretended like, oh, you had Covid. You still have to do all the crazy stuff. What do you mean? I have a positive COVID test. It's been two weeks. Like, shouldn't I just go about my life? The answer should have been yes. So effectively, we all should have been done with COVID once. You know, I got it, you know, in the first wave. Did you get it? Did you get hit with the first wave? When did you get it?
Tom Homan
I got it early, but I didn't have any real issues. Well, first wave, I guess, would have. I had it in like November of, Of.
Buck Sexton
I mean, original Covid, you know, not. Not Covid. Not Covid zero. I mean, original Covid with the, with the sugar, not the corn syrup.
Tom Homan
I had the. I had the OG Covid on in November of 20.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, so, yeah, I got. I got that same. I got in the fall of 20. I also got. Anyway, my point is that there are things that are just unforgivable and people should at least try to get forgiveness for it nonetheless. And one of them is anybody who was a law enforcement, military, first responder, anyone who got fired because they didn't want to get the vaccine. Now, we know there's no doubt whatsoever the vaccine offered zero protection to other people. So the notion that you should have been forced to get a vaccine because of what other people want for you, because you are a risk to them, was completely as a total fallacy, and there's no argument about this, that people were fired from the military, 1000s and 1000s of people fired from the military fire. And please, I know you're going to call me from a different job or a different sector. Anybody who lost their job over this in the government. That, and it's within the power of the Trump administration to fix this. It needs to be fixed. Private sector is a little tougher, but still should be fixed. Here is Pete Hegseth giving an Update. This is cut 1 on the reinstatements for service members who were separated from or taken adverse action against because of.
Clay Travis
COVID Today I'm signing a memorandum that.
Tom Homan
Directs the Undersecretary of Defense for personnel.
Clay Travis
And readiness to provide additional guidance to.
Tom Homan
The boards that are reviewing these cases.
Clay Travis
Concerning the review of requests from service members and former service members adversely impacted.
Tom Homan
By COVID 19 vaccine mandate.
Clay Travis
The guidance also will facilitate the removal of adverse actions on service members solely.
Tom Homan
For refusing to take the COVID 19.
Clay Travis
Vaccine, including discharge upgrades and less than fully honorable discharges for individuals separated for.
Tom Homan
Refusing to take the COVID 19 vaccine. So we're trying to scrub all that. Clean all that up.
Clay Travis
We'll also facilitate appropriate remedies for service.
Tom Homan
Members who have suffered additional career setbacks.
Clay Travis
Resulting from the previous administration's unlawful vaccine mandate.
Buck Sexton
I love it, Clay.
Tom Homan
Yeah. And it's one that Trump promised. And I get it. There are people out there listening, and they're saying, oh, Trump was not perfect on Covid. And you're correct, but he was way better than Joe Biden was. And if he had won reelection in 2020 and been able to stay in office, you would have never had a Covid shot mandate. You wouldn't have had it go to the supreme court.
Buck Sexton
May of 2020. I go to the White House at Trump's invitation and sit down with him to actually talk about being CIA director, which now I can speak to you all about very openly because some of our peers ended up taking cabinet positions, some of our friends. But I talked to Trump about being CIA director for the 2021 term. This was a real conversation that I've mentioned before on the show. This was a real conversation that we had in the Oval. And he's then brought it up several times in front of Clay, which was pretty funny because I was.
Tom Homan
I think I said it on the air.
Buck Sexton
I think he did say it on the air. Yeah. But I remember being there in May of 2020 in the White House. I keep saying the date, just so you remember. This is very early in our whole Covid saga. Nobody in the White House is wearing masks. Trump shook my hand. No masks. It was all, you know, this whole they, like they were trying to live in reality but not, you know, freak everybody out. So I'm just saying there was a clear understanding that there was a paranoia and a freakout going on. And Trump was very clear with me. He's like, look, I don't want to overrule all the states on this, because, remember, what if he had overruled? What if Trump had overruled the states federally and actually there had been some of these interventions, some of these things had gone wrong. And then what if all of a sudden Texas had three? Legitimately, they lied about the data a million different ways, but I mean, legitimately had two or three times the COVID deaths than a state like California. It would have been a political disaster and the whole thing. So I understand why in May of 2020, he was willing to allow states to do the federalist thing and take their own, make their own choices. The separation, remember the vaccine mandate thing is 100% Biden. Trump had nothing to do with that. That happened after he was no longer in office. And it is completely inexcusable. And we have a real debt to those service members, to those law enforcement officers, those first responders, nurses, doctors, anybody who got fired from their job because they wouldn't get the COVID shot. We have to make that up to them. And Pete's taking Secretary of Defense Hegseth is taking important steps to that end.
Tom Homan
I think it's the least we could do. And I would submit, remember, but for Trump's Supreme Court appointments, was it 6:3, that the government couldn't mandate the COVID shot? Basically, for everybody in the whole country, I think it finished 6:3. And if you remember the questioning from Sotomayor and Katanji Brown, Jackson in particular, was moronic. They had not done the basic research. Wasn't it Sotomayor who said there were hundreds of thousands of kids hospitalized with COVID She, I mean, just legitimately had no idea as a part of her questioning, you could tell that she had not done the most basic research on this issue. And but for Trump getting three Supreme Court opinions, appointments, this opinion would have gone out and everybody in America basically would have been forced to get the COVID shot as a condition of employment. And I mean, the fact that Biden got shot down, a lot of people now forget it, but it was. And I give credit to the judges that were in the majority. Remember, for a long time, nobody would stand up and say the Constitution matters the most in times of war and crisis. It's actually when we're in peril and when we face real difficulty that the fabric of the Constitution matters the most. And they were willing, don't forget, huge, majorities of the American public were willing to throw the Constitution on a dumpster fire because they were afraid of COVID They decided that it didn't matter anymore.
Buck Sexton
I completely disagree even with some of the conservatives when it comes to their jurisprudence that allowed them to or that they thought allowed the government to shut down churches because of an aerosols virus that's there. They were wrong. They were scared and they were cowards and they were wrong. You actually can't do that.
Tom Homan
I agree, and I hope that not.
Buck Sexton
While people are gathering to go to weed stores. Sorry, no. You know what I mean? Like, you got to remember, it wasn't. It wasn't shelter in place, everybody. And if you don't, you're going to die. It was, you know, go to Whole Foods, go to your weed store, go to the liquor store, but you can't go to church. Okay.
Tom Homan
One of my favorites, Buck, was remember that they kept open some, like, there's an ice cream shop in my neighborhood that never shut down ice cream cupcake stores. Those were considered essential businesses. So you could go to those. You couldn't go to the church.
Buck Sexton
You know, I'm going to tell you something. It's interesting because, you know, you've made this. You've called this long shot. We're weaving now. You've called this long shot about Andrew Cuomo being the. Being the mayor of New York City and the comeback that you think he's going to have. Now, up to this point, you're right. He's running and he's in the lead. However, Cuomo is horrible. Not just on Covid. My friend Mark Simone on WOR reminded me of this recently when I was talking to him. Cuomo, you can go to the Buck brief. We had a nice conversation about this, the podcast and the Claim Buck Network. Cuomo was the guy who did the. No, no. You know, the. Basically, you get released, no bail. I forget what the phrase is there. He's, you know, no cash bail, I think was the way. But the jailbreak bill, that's what I'm. The jailbreak bill. That was Cuomo. He actually did horrible things as the governor, but he was so bad on Covid that it overshadowed a lot of the terrible stuff that everybody disliked before then. And then the fact that the Democrats pushed him out for grabbing the lady around the stomach and kissing one on the cheek or whatever. It was like this, you know, the. The being handsy stuff. I'm not sure, Clay, he's going to have as easy a time as once. Once other people get It. Remember, no one thought Bill de Blasio was gonna be mayor of New York. There was a woman. I think her name was Christine Quinn. I can't remember. I think that's right. Who was expected to be the far and away. And I think, as people find out, when you look back at Cuomo on Covid and you look back at him on crime and a whole range of issues, he was a terrible governor. Terrible.
Tom Homan
I think the primaries in June, though, I mean, it's gonna be here in like eight weeks. Nobody's gonna even hardly be paying attention. I did see this. You know who just endorsed Cuomo? Kirsten Gillibrand, one of the senators. But you know what's significant to me about that endorsement? She was the one who really forced out Al Franken over that picture on the airplane, on the transport where he's pretending to grab a girl's boobs when she's asleep. I mean, like a decade.
Buck Sexton
I don't like to be in this position. I'm not. They did Al Franken dirty, okay? I think Al Franken's a jerk, but that was wrong. They actually should not have pushed him out for that. Okay, There was that. That was not. That did not rise to the level of, you know, I just think it's.
Tom Homan
An incredible sign of me, too, being over that. Now she's endorsing Cuomo, who was actually forced out for legitimately touching a woman again. I think it's a joke that he got forced out in particular over this, that there's a lot of reasons that he was awful as governor, but now she's backing in and coming and supporting him. We'll talk a little bit about that more, but I think he's going to be the. I think he's going to win. I don't think it's going to be close, and I would love to be wrong, but I unfortunately do not think I am. First round of the NFL draft was last night. Buck, I got it. Yeah, you watch.
Buck Sexton
Any minute, my dad maybe turn it on for a minute. And he started. He was like, oh, I'm so happy that, like, I think one of the guys was named Abdul. Is that. Does that sound right?
Tom Homan
Yeah. Well, the Giants got a great. Your dad's a Giants fan, right?
Buck Sexton
Yes, yes. He was all excited about.
Tom Homan
They got Abdul Carter, who is a elite defensive player, but then they jumped in and got Jackson Dart. So they got a brand new quarterback, too. Another Ole Miss quarterback. So your dad is a Giants fan. Probably happy. The draft was going on last night and you could have had some fun with prize picks with the draft. But also you've got the NBA playoffs, you got the NHL playoffs, you got Major League Baseball. Every day you can get hooked up right now you can play in California, Texas, Georgia. You get $50 instantly when you play $5. If you go to prizepix.com use code CLAY. That's $50 instantly. Texas, California, Georgia, nearly 40 states, 13 million people playing. All you have to do prizepix.com code clay for $50 prizepix.com Code clay Geek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, a new episode every Sunday. Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of variety, a guy who's talked about every subject under the sun and written about a lot of them over the years. Bill O'Reilly, Bill, bringing you in. It's almost 100 days and big broad question to start with you. I think hundred days will officially be early next week. How would you grade the first hundred days of the Trump administration? Has anything surprised you? Has anything stood out to you that maybe you were not anticipating also as a part of that grade that you might give?
Clay Travis
Well, you'd have to do subjects if you want to be fair and give grades. Different subjects, the economy, foreign affairs, immigration, all to get different grades. I think the Tariff Liberation Day stuff was unanticipated certainly by me. And, you know, I have a pretty close contact with the White House. I know what they're doing and why they're doing. And I wasn't ready for that shock and awe at all. So Tuesday is 100 day anniversary. On Wednesday, we'll be doing a two hour town hall on News Nation, kicking it off with President Trump. He'll be on with me, Chris Cuomo, Stephen A. Smith, to go down the list of what has happened. But, you know, a lot of this is emotion, not fact. And that's what I'm trying to get away from. But if you ask me a specific question about a policy that Trump has done in 100 days, I can give you a fairly specific answer.
Buck Sexton
Let's, let's take a look first, Bill, at what you think on, on the economy, because that's been, I think, the primary policy area where even people who are pro Trump maybe have gotten a little unnerved by some of the market moves recently. Right. It's one thing the left, oh yeah, Trump is Hitler. He sent this ms.13 guy. We expect all that stuff. But the economy, the tariffs, some of that I think is where, you know There's a little bit of a have faith in me, trust me attitude from Trump on this one. How do you, how do you assess how he's doing and what that's looking like?
Clay Travis
So well, whenever you mess with people's money, they're going to get emotional. Number one, I don't know if Donald Trump understands that because he's a child of privilege. He's been a wealthy person since he's been born. But I don't know if he understands the emotion that Americans have tied into their cash, because it's everything in this country. This is a capitalistic country, and if you don't have enough money, you're going to have a miserable life, period. So when the stock market began to wobble and then collapse for a few days, people not only started to worry, they got angry. Because when you're surprised in a negative way, usually the first emotion is anger. What are you doing? Get away from me. All right, that's natural. It's all natural. Second thing is, people don't understand tariffs. To this day, they don't know what's going on. You can go out there with charts and you can go to night school or on the Internet and enroll in a macroeconomics course. It'll take you three or four weeks to understand what the tariffs are, Susan, like immigration, which is easy to understand. And so the emotion of the country was, what are you doing to Donald Trump? And that hurt him. Now, I don't know, you know, and I'm going to ask him certainly on Wednesday, you know, do you understand why Americans are disenchanted at this point? That on the record? Because it's all, what I just told you is 100% true. The economy itself is pretty good. And it wasn't bad under Biden either. Prices killed Biden, but prices are coming down under Trump. In my area on Long island, gas prices are down significantly and food is down as well. Now, I don't think the greedy insurance company is going to drop their prices. And that was a big factor to destroying Joe Biden. But you don't know. Increased competition may cause that, but people have jobs, plenty of jobs around. Consumers are spending money, so the economy is okay. But this tariff deal, Trump's going for the big, big payoff here. And maybe he'll get it, but maybe doesn't counter panic.
Tom Homan
We're talking to Bill O'Reilly. He's going to be having the president for 100 days. You've known the president a long time. You know, Buck has known the president for A long time. I've known him the last five or six years. He seems more comfortable to me, Bill, in this iteration of his presidency than he ever has before. I'm curious if you get that vibe from him, whether you would attribute it partly to surviving in Butler. Maybe it's winning the popular vote, maybe despite putting on the 2028 hat, it's knowing that there is an end to the race in sight where he's not necessarily a politician anymore. Do you get that sense? How would you assess him personally as we come up on this hundred day mark?
Clay Travis
Well, certainly he's far more comfortable than he was the first time around, because the first time around, he didn't know what he was doing.
Tom Homan
Yeah.
Clay Travis
So he comes into office and I can tell you this with certainty, knowing that the president before him failed dismally and with a personal grudge against Joe Biden. Donald Trump hates Joe Biden, and I don't use that word often. It's not a dislike, it's a hate. Because Trump believes that Biden was behind many of the legal problems that he experienced. Where's Merrick Garland, by the way? He's in a witness protection program. I never saw a guy get out of town faster.
Tom Homan
Great point.
Clay Travis
All right, so Trump comes in and he goes. He's got an agenda where he didn't have that in the first go around. He was. It was. It took him almost six months to believe he was actually there. Okay. So he gets there and he goes, shock and awe. Shock and awe. Border boom works. Shock and awe. DEI boom works. Shock and awe. Tariffs. Oh, doesn't work now. The first few months before the tariffs, he was riding high and he was very super confident. Now it's a little more tentative. Add that to Putin basically poking him in the eye, because Trump did not anticipate that would happen. They had a structure of a deal before Trump was even elected. Putin and Trump. But Putin is so evil, so massively bad that he's going to cause as much problem as humanly possible before he'll make a deal. And Trump did not anticipate that. So that's throwing him off his game a little bit. Trump with the tariffs and Putin. But certainly he's far more confident now. And I was in a cabinet meeting with him and his advisers on St Patrick's Day than he was the first time around.
Buck Sexton
Bill, could I just jump in on that? Because I think that's really interesting. Do you think that Putin may have underestimated Trump in this exchange? Because it's not looking good And I mean that from the optics side of things, right? I know the deal's not done, nothing's been agreed to formally, etcetera, but for Putin to do the dramatic escalation with some of these strikes, maybe dramatic is too strong a word, escalation with some of these strikes. While this is ongoing, I think Trump feels a little slighted personally. And I just wonder if you think that Putin doesn't realize slighting Trump personally is not. Not smart business.
Clay Travis
You know, I am not a psychiatrist, but I have Vladimir Putin on the COVID of my upcoming book, Confronting Evil, which will be out September 9th. The guy is hardcore. He enjoys inflicting pain on other people. He's unpredictable. So it's hard for me to assess his motivation. I can tell you that Trump was confident because Trump looks at life in a linear way. If the deal is good, you take it. Putin doesn't see it that way. Putin wants to inflict pain on other people. That's what he's done his whole entire life. I don't know if Trump understands that. I actually told him that face to face eight years ago in the first interview he did before being inaugurated when I was on Fox News. And I said, this guy, he's a killer. And you know, the sound bite, it's a famous soundbite. He goes, well, we're not that pure ourselves. That was Trump's answer. Now, I believe that Trump knows that he's going to have to punish Putin in order to get Putin to do anything. And I. That strategy is underway.
Tom Homan
How? You said you were in a cabinet meeting on St Patrick's Day with Trump. How confident are you in Pete Hegseth's stature as Defense secretary? So far, Trump has not had to fire anybody in the first hundred days. I think he wants to set the precedent that he is not going to listen to the media at all because they're never happy and they're always demanding the next head on a platter. How would you assess Hegseth status? And so far, Trump staying behind everybody that's a part of the Cabinet.
Clay Travis
When Hegseth was nominated, I said that was not a good nomination. You'll remember that. I think we talked about it on this program.
Buck Sexton
We did, yeah.
Clay Travis
And the reason was that most people who work in the Pentagon are careerists. Their whole life, they work there. They don't want an agent of change walking in. That's Hegseth. They're going to try to undermine and destroy him. A stronger person with more experience could counter that. Hegseth can't therefore he is not going to survive in that job. Now, your point about Donald Trump not being intimidated by the hate Trump media is an excellent point and everybody should understand it. He's not going to look weak. But I don't believe that Mr. Hegseth is going to be able to run the Pentagon. That will become clear to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who then tell Donald Trump, if they haven't already, you got to get somebody else in there.
Buck Sexton
Let me ask you, Bill, also, we're running close up against the break here, but I did want to get this in. I'm sure you saw this, I guess maybe scuttlebutt about Besant and Elon, two guys with plenty of money and plenty of ego. I think that's fair to say. Really going at it, if you believe the reports. And I haven't seen anybody. I mean, Caroline Levitt was like, you know, boys will be boys. So this wasn't no one has seemed to suggest this is fake. But getting personal, getting nasty over the IRS director, what do you see here? What are the bigger dynamics, maybe within the White House that you think this might allude to? Or is this just two guys, you know, scoping each other out, not liking what they see? What was this all about?
Clay Travis
I don't know what it was about, but I know it happened. So you're not going to see much of Elon Musk this summer. And I think his tenure at the White House. He still has the president's ear, but he's not going to be around very much. Bessing is emerging as a very powerful person in the Trump administration.
Buck Sexton
What do you think about that?
Clay Travis
I don't know. I'm not, I don't know. I do know that he was a moderating force to pull back on the shock and awe with the tariffs and, you know, that worked. The market stabilized to some extent. That's a big plus for him.
Buck Sexton
What is the one thing you want to see? I mean, I'm sure, sorry, I don't want to make you give up some of what you're going to be talking about in a few days, but I think everyone would expect you to ask the focus between now and the fall for Trump, I know there's a lot of things got to walk and chew gum at the same time. Sure. But if there's one area where he could put real points on the board in a way that would help with the momentum to get more of the agenda done, not losing the midterms, et cetera, what would you want to see him you know, what do you think the most important area for racking up wins is for this administration?
Clay Travis
Well, if what I'm hearing is true, he'll have deals with India and Japan to announce almost maybe next week. And if that happens, the EU will follow soon and Mexico and Canada also. If you can get that done in the month of May, then he'll be riding high again.
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Clay Travis
And then China.
Buck Sexton
Where can people go to see the interview? We're running into break here, but we wanted to make sure everyone knows where can they go? And also billorily.com for your daily analysis. Right?
Clay Travis
Yep. That's the place to go. Thanks for having me, guys.
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I'm up in D.C. right now and I spent some time over at the White House earlier today. Got to talk with Tom Homan who is implementing Donald Trump's border policy. And certainly a news breaking day in that arena. We talked a couple of hours ago this morning just next door to the White House in the Old Executive Office Building. This is what it sounded like. And it started with this first question for me, for Tom Homan, how would he assess the first hundred days of the work that they've been able to do so far and how well has it gone? This is what it sounded like.
Christina Quinn
We're kicking ass. I mean, look at the numbers. I mean, in seven weeks we got border crossings down over 90%. And right now as today, we're down 96%. So based on the data, real data, we had the most secure border in the history of this nation today, which is a huge success. And other than just the numbers being down 96%, there's two other metrics I look at on the board that are extraordinary. Under Joe Biden, we averaged 1800 got aways a day. 1800 known gotaways, people we know across the border, but got away because the Borg patrol's too busy changing diapers, making baby form and so forth. Went from 1800 a day to less than 40. 40 is 40 too many. We'll get them. We'll get them too. But. And, and the other number is those that we apprehend every day. Under Joe Biden, we got over 11,000 a day. Today's number was 178. 11,000 to 178. The third metric I look at is how many people got released from the border because President Trump ended catch and release, right? So from inauguration date to April 1st last year, January 20th, April 1st, last run of Biden, they released 184,000 people, illegal aliens into the United States. Same type here. Another Trump 9. Four of them were material witnesses we needed for criminal trial. Four was extremely urgent medical needs that we couldn't remove. Got to take care of the medical needs right away. And one was for a humanitarian reason. I think it was some sort of organ transplant for a dying child. 184,000 to 9. So we have the most secure border in the history of this nation right now.
Tom Homan
Okay, so the border is secure is one of the biggest lies we were ever told that Congress had to act to secure the border.
Christina Quinn
President Trump did in seven weeks with Joe Biden couldn't and wasn't doing four years. Like the President said, you just need a new president. Right? So we already secured the border at record levels during Trump 45. And we knew what we needed to do to get it back. Plus we're taking additional steps in addition to what we did before. Again, he achieved the most secure border in seven weeks. But now is a record achievement because we're even securing it at a higher level. Now. President was able to do this because of his out of box thinker, right? Whether he remained in Mexico program Thursday of Country Games, any intense release plus the consequences. People now know you come to our border, you're not being released in the United States, you'll hide out. So you can't have strong border security if you don't have strong ink Interior enforcement and consequences. So all this is plays into a great success.
Tom Homan
How many people do you think are illegally in the country right now.
Christina Quinn
20 million.
Tom Homan
20 million. If there are 20 million, two part build on that. Do you think some people are now self deporting because they're aware that there are consequences for being here illegally? Do you think that's a real thing that's happening?
Christina Quinn
Yes.
Tom Homan
You do.
Buck Sexton
How significant do you think CBP1 app.
Christina Quinn
I think we're, if I remember correctly, we're over 5,000 already. A lot of people are just self reporting without going through the CBP home map, the intelligence report showing caravans heading south. The daring gap which hundreds of thousands of people go north now. Now people are going south.
Tom Homan
Oh wow.
Christina Quinn
It's not shut down. Yeah, it's going south.
Tom Homan
Yeah.
Christina Quinn
People realize that there's no free ride anymore. You're not going to be arrested at the border and released. You're going to be either immediately returned, you're going to be detained until we return you. You're not walking away from the border.
Tom Homan
Okay. So if, if some people are starting to self deport, obviously much of the media attention has been on the intentional deportations that are occurring inside of the country. And it seems to me, and you correct me if I'm wrong here, we had a policy where Joe Biden lets 10 million plus illegals in. You said you think there's roughly 20 million illegals in the country at best case scenario rates. Right now it would appear that we're deporting around 350,000 people on average a year. It seems like they have set up a policy where as many people illegally basically as possible can come in and then they're trying to restrict clearly the ability to send those people back out by throwing everything in front legal obstacles, everything else. Is that an accurate assessment picture?
Christina Quinn
Absolutely is what they did. They played the long, long term plan. Right. They're playing the long game and they're pretty smart about it. You bring 10.5 million people into the country, you release the vast majority into the country. And not in ICE detention because they're placing ICE detention at $127 a night for a bed. They get a hearing within 35 days. Yeah, we know nine out of 10 do not qualify for asylum. They get immediately removed. And nine out of 10, that's the immigration court data from 10 years. So let's not put them in icy tension because they'll get hearing within 35 days and go home. Let's release them and put them in a hotel room at 500 bucks a night, giving three meals a day, getting free medical care, giving work authorization within 9,120 days. Exactly why they came here, not because of asylum, but to get a better life. I understand that. Purposely overwhelmed the system. So they backed the immigration court up on purpose. So now it's going to take three, five, seven years. If you go through all the appeal process could be as high as nine. Like courts in New York City. They knew if they overwhelmed the system, these people couldn't be returned right away. And maybe by the time that five years rolls around, seven years rolls around, they have a Democratic administration, all of a sudden, boom, Amnesty across the board.
Tom Homan
Yes.
Christina Quinn
So their long game, that's what they intend to do. It's not by accident, isn't incompetence, isn't, you know, it's mismanagement. This is by design. So what we're doing now, we're trying to move people as quick as possible. But now you got radical judges and district court. You got a district court judge issues a national injunction. Yes, District. I used to work district. Right. So that's why we're taking this to the Supreme Court. District court judge shouldn't have to put a nationwide injunction outside of this district. There's some between sanctuary cities, the judges, the radical judges, and the NGOs, and people like AOC says she's going to educate people as to the constitutional rights. Don't open the door for ice. Don't talk to ice. You and I both know her end game is evaded in law enforcement. That's about the change real fast. I'm not going to. I'm not going to talk about it right now, but in the next two weeks, you're going to see. We're no longer going to. We're no longer going to accept that you're going to open the door. Oh, we're gonna prosecute you. We're done. So with all these things working against us, we still got three times. We arrested three times more criminal aliens than Joe Biden did an entire year. We're accomplished that in two months. So ICE is rocking and rolling, but we could do a lot more if we didn't have these radical judges putting a national nationwide injunction on us.
Tom Homan
You are constantly having to answer the accusation that you're raiding schools, that you're raiding churches, that you're going after kids. It's not true. But what do you want people to hear directly from you on that accusation?
Christina Quinn
Sensitive location policy said ICE couldn't make arrests. And sensitive location, churches, schools, hospitals, daycare centers and all this other stuff. We were the only law enforcement, federal law enforcement agency in the Nation who had such a policy. FBI don't have that policy. DEA don't have that policy. ATF don't have that policy. So we did the way the policy could. We're sending a clear message. Significant public safety threats or national security threats have no sanctuary. For instance, we got an MS.13 member who's a senior in high school and we're looking for them. We can't find them. But now we got information. You sit in that classroom right now, significant public safety threat. We're going to that school with local authorities. We're going to place them under arrest. We're not going to sweep the school. We're not going to ask every student at school. Nationality, same thing with. Same thing with churches. We know there's a national security connected with terrorism and he's attending Mass. We're going to go to the church and we'll arrest him. Now, we'll probably arrest him on his way out. We'll send somebody and watch, make sure he leaves. But we're going. There's no sanctuary for criminals and national security threats. And that's what the policy is about. You're not going to see a school being sweeped or a church being sweeped or any of that stuff. It's just garbage. But the left media puts that out and putting fear in the immigrant community to turn the tide against us. Right? I promise from day one, we're going to be transparent with the American people. We can't lose the faith and support the American people. But the left's working real hard to send misinformation out. So people say, okay, maybe ICE is a radical group. I read last night ICE is compared to the Nazis, for God's sakes. And you look at what they're doing, they're concentrating public safety threats and national security threats. And the data collection clearly shows it. Every public safety threat we arrest in deport, this country's that much safer.
Tom Homan
When you see Democrats flying to El Salvador to make, in theory, the focal point of your deportation policy, a alleged wife beater, a guy who was clearly adjudicated to be here illegally. Evidence, a massive amount that he is an MS.13 gang member, and evidence out of Tennessee that he may well have been engaged in human trafficking because he was driving a human trafficker's car. And all the people that were in that vehicle were let go by Joe Biden's FBI. Are you sometimes in disbelief that this is the guy they decided to decide that they need to go to war to defend?
Christina Quinn
Actually, I am. I mean, I knew I'VE said it on numerous radio shows after President Trump won and we're waiting to coming back in. I said day one, they're going to vilify the men and women of ice. They're going to vilify the men and women of the border and everybody in this administration who's going to enforce immigration law, I call it from day one. But I said they're going to capture a video first woman or child crying and play it on a reel over and over again. I never thought for a moment they're going to support an MS.13 gang member designated terrorists that we removed to his homeland. He's home.
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Christina Quinn
And we did the right thing and but I find it, you know, I'm shocked every day that more want to go down there and hug him. Just it's ridiculous. And Van Halen went down there the day before he took went to El Salvador. There was an illegal alien that was charged with murder released from custody. They ignored the ICE detainer released into the street and we took custody back home. Rachel Morin was murdered in Maryland. How come he's not beaten with angel moms and dads? I mean he ought to be fixing the sanctuary status of that state rather than going hugging on Ms. 13 terrorists. I find it shocking but you know, I hope they keep doing it.
Tom Homan
How many hours a day are you working right now?
Christina Quinn
I don't know. I work.
Tom Homan
How many hours do you sleep When.
Christina Quinn
I leave, I can tell you this, since January 20th, I think I've had total days off without working. 4. I mean even I'm home, I'm on my computer working my security detail. I got the best security detail that exists. And these, these guys, they're awesome. And there are a lot of death threats against me and my family and, and I'm working these guys to death. I mean they're working seven days a week and it's, it's a tough job but you know, it's just what we're doing is historic. When I retired for the third time, I'm going to say, okay, I'm done now.
Tom Homan
What are you going to do when you retire?
Christina Quinn
I'll probably keep raising hell. The Democrat administration comes and tries to undo everything we did. I'm hoping Congress fix that. Congress can change a few laws to make this permanent so every four years we don't have to worry about another president coming in, undoing it all.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Daily Review with Clay and Buck (April 25, 2025)
Hosts: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Released: April 25, 2025
Platform: iHeartPodcasts
The episode opens with Clay Travis addressing a significant development in immigration enforcement. Federal law enforcement agents arrested Judge Hannah Dugan of Milwaukee County for allegedly obstructing federal immigration processes. Travis emphasizes the gravity of an official, especially a judge, interfering with federal law enforcement.
Clay Travis [05:10]: "This is a warning shot for the entire sanctuary jurisdiction. It's wrong what these places, what these law enforcement officers at the local and state level are doing."
Buck Sexton concurs, highlighting the implications of this arrest for sanctuary cities and the broader judicial system.
Buck Sexton [09:36]: "The judiciary is not nonpartisan, and the judiciary has to be held to the same laws that all the rest of us are, irrespective of their political beliefs."
The hosts discuss how this incident sets a precedent, signaling that even high-ranking officials cannot undermine federal laws without facing consequences. They argue that this move counters the longstanding protection sanctuary cities have enjoyed and serves as a deterrent for future attempts to obstruct immigration enforcement.
Transitioning from immigration, the discussion shifts to COVID-19 policies, particularly focusing on efforts to reinstate service members who were discharged due to vaccine mandates under the previous administration.
Buck Sexton [26:24]: "Anybody who was a law enforcement, military, first responder, anyone who got fired because they didn't want to get the vaccine... should at least try to get forgiveness for it."
Tom Homan elaborates on the Trump administration’s initiatives to reverse these policies, showcasing a memorandum signed by President Trump aimed at removing adverse actions taken against service members who refused the COVID-19 vaccine.
Clay Travis [27:53]: "We'll also facilitate appropriate remedies for service members who have suffered additional career setbacks resulting from the previous administration's unlawful vaccine mandate."
This reversal underscores the administration’s commitment to rectifying what they deem as unlawful actions taken under Biden, emphasizing support for military personnel's choices concerning their health and employment.
A significant portion of the episode features an interview with former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly, who provides his insights on President Trump’s first 100 days in office.
O’Reilly assesses Trump's economic strategies, particularly his approach to tariffs and their impact on the U.S. economy.
Bill O’Reilly [39:19]: "The economy itself is pretty good... In my area on Long Island, gas prices are down significantly and food is down as well."
He acknowledges that while the economy shows resilience, unexpected challenges such as fluctuating market reactions to tariffs have tested the administration’s policies. O’Reilly anticipates that Trump's tariff negotiations with China and Russia will continue to shape global economic dynamics.
The conversation delves into Trump's handling of foreign relations, especially concerning Vladimir Putin.
Bill O’Reilly [43:22]: "Trump comes in and he goes... shock and awe. Border boom works... Tariffs... Putin is so evil, so massively bad that he's going to cause as much problem as humanly possible before he'll make a deal."
O’Reilly critiques Putin's aggressive stance, suggesting that the Russian leader underestimates Trump’s resilience and strategic responses. He predicts ongoing tensions and potential escalations in their interactions, impacting global politics.
O’Reilly remarks on Trump's personal growth and confidence since assuming office.
Clay Travis [43:14]: "He comes in office and he goes... Oh, this is a big privilege..."
O’Reilly observes that Trump appears more comfortable and effective in his leadership role compared to previous administrations. However, he also notes potential vulnerabilities stemming from Trump's personal vendettas and the unpredictability of international relations under his tenure.
Tom Homan provides a detailed analysis of border security improvements under Trump's administration compared to Biden's.
Homan cites impressive statistics to demonstrate Trump's success in securing the U.S. border:
Christina Quinn [59:02]: "In seven weeks we got border crossings down over 90%. And right now as today, we're down 96%."
He contrasts these numbers with the Biden administration's performance, highlighting a dramatic reduction in illegal crossings and apprehensions.
Christina Quinn [59:02]: "Under Joe Biden, we averaged 1800 gotaways a day... Went from 1800 a day to less than 40."
The discussion addresses the legal hurdles imposed by radical judges and nationwide injunctions that complicate immigration enforcement.
Christina Quinn [63:33]: "The left's working real hard to send misinformation out. So people say, okay, maybe ICE is a radical group. ... But from day one, we're going to be transparent with the American people."
Homan explains how these judicial actions undermine the administration’s efforts, leading to prolonged legal battles and potential shifts in immigration policy with future administrations.
Buck Sexton and Tom Homan critique the media’s portrayal of ICE and immigration enforcement, arguing that it fosters misinformation and public fear.
Buck Sexton [62:46]: "All the left media puts that out is just garbage."
They emphasize that ICE’s focus remains on public safety threats and national security, dismissing claims that the agency indiscriminately targets communities or sanctuaries.
In light of continued attacks on Israel, the hosts take a moment to advocate for humanitarian assistance and support for the nation.
Buck Sexton [57:21]: "These are people that are trying to wipe Israel off the map. They are fighting for their very survival..."
They urge listeners to donate to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, highlighting the organization's role in providing humanitarian aid and security essentials during these tumultuous times.
Buck Sexton shares personal stories about his newborn son, highlighting the challenges and joys of parenthood.
Buck Sexton [23:08]: "He's sleeping through the night and it's amazing."
He humorously attributes their success to not "hazing" their child, contrasting it with traditional fraternity practices. This segment adds a relatable and heartfelt touch to the episode, showcasing the hosts' personal lives amidst serious discussions.
As the episode nears its end, Clay Travis discusses the need to support service members reinstated after the COVID-19 vaccine policy reversals and reflects on Trump’s Supreme Court appointments that impacted COVID mandates.
Clay Travis [31:09]: "We have a real debt to those service members... We have to make that up to them."
He underscores the administration’s commitment to maintaining constitutional integrity, juxtaposing it against perceived overreach by judges and previous policies under Biden.
Additionally, the hosts promote various products and services, such as Chalk’s vitality stacks and Legacy Box’s digitization services, interspersed with brief mentions of upcoming shows and podcast links.
The April 25, 2025, episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a comprehensive examination of the Trump administration's early policies, focusing on immigration enforcement, economic strategies, and foreign relations. Through in-depth discussions and expert interviews, the hosts and guests articulate a narrative of strong leadership and decisive action, while critiquing opposing viewpoints and media portrayals. Personal anecdotes add a human dimension to the discourse, making complex policy discussions accessible and engaging for listeners.
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This structured approach ensures that key topics are thoroughly covered, providing listeners—both regular and new—with a clear understanding of the episode's main discussions, insights, and conclusions.