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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck SEXTON SHOW okay, yesterday during the program, Pam Bondi, attorney general out. Not even very much discussion today about the fact that President Trump moved on from his attorney general yesterday. These are the names that are at the top right now of the poly market. Who will be the next attorney general? Prediction markets. Buck, I'm going to hit these for you. We talked about a variety of different names. Lee Zeldin is a Pretty big favorite, 53% right now. Coin flip. But he's the favorite to be the next attorney general. He is the current EPA head. Then you have Todd Blanch, who is the interim was working as the second in charge of the Department of Justice has now been elevated. For those of you certainly who remember, Todd Blanche was President Trump's private attorney during much of the criminal mess that he had when he was not in office, they seem to have a very good relationship. And then in third place, 25% chance right now that it will be Todd Blanche. In third place, Judge Jeanine Pirro, who is right now the head of the D.C. attorney's office that has been prosecuting as the district attorney basically of the District of Columbia. Many of those cases obviously also very well known to many of you as a panelist on THE Five, which is the most popular show on cable before she was elevated into this job. Couple of other names that are out there, they are substantial underdogs. Ken Paxton. Now, I don't know, Buck, if Ken Paxton could be confirmed by the United States Senate. He is the current attorney general of Texas. He's been on this program many times. He is running against John Cornyn in the Senate primary. This would be kind of a masterstroke for Trump. Ken Paxton has been a longtime ally of President Trump. If he were able and I don't know if he would be able to, but if he were able to be confirmed by the Senate, remember we only have 53 votes. So you assume unified opposition from Democrats. Ken Paxton maybe could be an incredible choice because it would end the Senate battle in Texas and basically take Texas and the amount of money that's going to be spent between now and May, late May, off the table and kind of put Talarico down in a way that he would be unlikely to win. It ends the acrimony of the primary. Ken Paxton would get a more important, I would argue, job as the attorney general than he has right now in the Senate. Those are the top four you and I talked about the fact that we thought Ron DeSantis would be an amazing attorney general. I'll stand by that. If they wanted to go in the Senate, Mike Lee could make a lot of sense because theoretically he would be easy to confirm. That's kind of what I would say. Top five or six. You mentioned Harmeet Dillon. Where do you see this going? Do you think the favorites, do you think it's very likely it's going to be Lee Zeldin and or Todd Blanche? That's about a 85% chance according to the prediction markets. Or do you think Trump could just go off the board?
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Buck Sexton
I think that Trump is running yet another episode of the Apprentice. The Apprentice, Department of Justice, meaning that he wants everyone to be in a, in a tizzy, running around thinking about who could be, who will be. You know, the only person who knows Clay is Donald Trump. I think that he's probably still considering what his options are. He's going to listen to different voices over the days ahead. I think all of these options are strong, the ones that he's talking about. And I don't think Ron DeSantis, I don't think he will be asked, nor do I think he would take the job, quite honestly for a bunch of reasons.
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Clay Travis
Let me ask you this, by the way. Sorry to cut you off, but, but I get a lot of responses on this. What is Ron DeSantis going to do? He is an elite political talent who has transformed the state of Florida in his eight years. His term ends in November. He's not going to run again. Byron Donalds I believe is going to be the next governor of the great state of Florida. I think Byron Donald's going to do a good job. But Ron DeSantis come November, basically, I know he'll serve until January when we have a sworn in swearing in occurring of the new governor. What is he going to do?
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Buck Sexton
Well, the, the easiest thing would be to go into the private sector and make a whole bunch of money, which I think he could easily do. The less easy thing that I actually think is the more likely thing is that he will run for president, but he'll run for president as Ron DeSantis would, saying, Hey, I think I'd be the best for this job, but I'd also be a great secretary of state under a JD Vance or a Marco Rubio or whatever administration. So I think he's going to run. I think he's going to run because I think now we've seen running for president and this has been played out many times in recent elections going back now decades. Running for president is a brand enhancing and sometimes cabinet innate cabinet position enabling maneuver. So why not? So that's what I think.
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Clay Travis
He's so start, I mean, and basically, as we have talked about it sounds like he would be out of office. But the presidential primary starts basically in January of 27 when people come out of Christmas and New Year's. The 2028 presidential cycle will begin. By January and February, March, everybody will be announcing that they are going to be running for president. We'll see how many they end up actually being.
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Buck Sexton
I hope everyone enjoyed the one year of Trump's first or Trump's second term where we weren't essentially gearing up for either a midterm or a presidential election, because that's the way that this goes. We had one year and now we're in the midterm year.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
And then it's going to be the beginning of the presidential cycle. So we're going to be jumping into this right away. But yeah, I think, I think Ron's going to run and I think very much in the way that, you know, he ran. He even ran the last time, which obviously didn't work against Trump, didn't work very well at all. But he'll run on, hey guys, I think I'm great for the job, but he's not, it's, he's, he doesn't, he's not going to get ugly with fellow Republicans. I think he'll probably be. If he does run and I'm right, he'll be smiling at Rubio on the stage again. I don't even know. There's a lot of talk as to whether JD Or Rubio is the heir apparent. I don't really have a, I think they're both really solid choices. I don't really have a dog in that fight. Some people feel very, very strongly about it. I'm somewhat agnostic. I think they're both. If I thought one was much weaker than the other, I'd have a strong opinion on it. But right now I want to see that play out. But I think, yeah, Ron would be somebody who, if he, if he were to run again, it would be, hey, let's see what kind of traction I get. Slash, he would be a really good AG or secretary. Said, I don't think he wants to be the AG at the end of Trump's second term. Quite honestly, that's, that's where he doesn't want to go.
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Clay Travis
Let me give you one. It's a sad story. Justice Alito report came down, sounds like he's fine, but he was hospitalized in March after a Federalist related issue with his health. They said he was dehydrated. He had to be taken to the hospital. If you are looking at the landscape of available candidates for the Supreme Court and you are trying to avoid a Katanji Brown Jackson situation, I think Ron DeSantis would be an incredible Supreme Court justice. I don't know that anybody else has ever said this. Alito and Clarence Thomas, he has a good relationship with both. I don't know that he would want it. I haven't Talked to Ron DeSantis about this, but I'll tell you a story. I don't think I've told this story on the air before. DeSantis is a legal nerd and that's not an attack, that is an endorsement. He reads the actual opinions as one should as the chief executive of a state. He is a strong legal scholar. Some people would prefer at times to be immersed in the policy details, the challenges of legalities. Other people kind of float above it. I don't think Trump is sitting down, pouring through Supreme Court justices like opinions saying what? Can you believe this footnote? Is this dicta or is this the official opinion? I know he was at the argument on Wednesday. I think he gets the big picture impact. I don't think he goes into the nitty gritty. I think Ron DeSantis a nitty gritty guy. I think Ron DeSantis as a replacement for Alito or if Clarence Thomas. These guys are both 75 plus ish and buck. We may lose the Senate and nobody else wants to talk about the fact that if we lose the Senate, Trump has no ability to appoint new Supreme Court justices and who knows when the Republicans will have the Senate and the presidency again. I don't, I, I, I May be I feel like I'm the only person, like, hitting this, hitting this button and talking about it. But we saw what happened with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. When you get to be 75, if you're having every now and then a little bit of a health condition, it can turn in a hurry. And next thing you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg is getting replaced by Amy Coney Barrett. And that reverse could happen. Right. Clarence Thomas could be replaced by the equivalent of Katanji Brown Jackson. If Democrats have the ability to this same thing with Justice Alito. I think there needs to be a real discussion behind closed doors about health and whether in the summer it could make sense when this term ends in June to have a Supreme Court confirmation. And I'll just toss that out there. The timing would be perfect on a Ron DeSantis on the Supreme Court. Have you heard anybody else ever make that suggestion, or have I blown your mind with this idea?
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Buck Sexton
No, that's up there with Linda from Arizona talking about deploying ice to if this were to happen. I've never heard anyone talk about Ron for the Supreme Court.
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Clay Travis
So that would be quite, he's 45, 46 years old. So you got a long Runway. Young.
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Buck Sexton
Right.
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Clay Travis
As judges would go. I think it could make a ton of sense.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. Interesting. I, I, I can see that more than Ted, Ted Cruz wants to be president.
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Clay Travis
You're you and I would be in agreement that Ted Cruz is going to run for president 20, 28. I mean, period. He'll start running in January of 27.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. People are going to say, oh, but what about there's not the same feeling about this which we all very much heard. When people ran, including Ron DeSantis against Trump, it was, it's not their time. It has to be Trump. It has to be Trump. I do. There is not a unified voice of the Republican Party that I think is going to insist that there is only one going forward. I haven't seen that maybe Trump. The only way that changes is if Trump says everyone, maga, JD Or Marco. But let's assume it's JD JD Is my guy. He is the, you know, Trump would have to do that in a very clear, very concerned. I don't know if he'll do that. I think if he just kind of says, you know, I'm going to let MAGA decide, it's up to them. You know, let the Republican base do what it does. I think you're going to have a lot of people run, actually, and I think it'll be much More interesting, there's only one Trump, right? I mean, it's a different thing. No one else is Trump.
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Clay Travis
I'm going to give you a crazy. Take part two that no one else has said that. I don't think anybody else has said. I think there's a possibility that Marco Rubio would rather be commissioner of the NFL after his Secretary of State run than vice president. Because I think he's doing a tremendous job as Secretary of state. We've talked about vp. You know, there's the talk of, hey, Marco's going to run with J.D. i don't know that Marco Rubio wants to be vice president. I think he might see it as a demotion relative to what he gets to do right now as Secretary of state. I think he might be done with government. To Marco Rubio's credit, he's never made any money. He's in his 50s. And everybody out there used to talk about Condoleezza Rice wanting to be one day the NFL commissioner.
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Buck Sexton
Really?
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Clay Travis
Roger Goodell may. Oh, you never heard that story? Oh, yeah. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. She was a top candidate in the public arena to be the Commissioner of the NFL.
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Buck Sexton
This I do know. Goodell makes like 40 or something million a year.
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Mike Rogers
Right.
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Clay Travis
I think there is an argument that the best job in America is commissioner of the NFL when you consider the amount of money they make. The fact that you're selling something that everybody loves football. I think Marco Rubio could be the. When Roger Goodell steps down. Remember, Goodell's dad used to be a senator. I mean, he's of political, you know, background in many ways. I think Marco Rubio could be the next NFL commissioner, and I think he would prefer that. This is where people are going to say, you're crazy.
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Buck Sexton
I'd rather be NFL commissioner than vice president. That's.
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Clay Travis
I think I would, too. I mean, if you gave me the choice right now, would you rather be vp? And I say it only in the context of Marco is getting to do the Secretary of State job at an elite level. Vice president, you're kind of just floating around there, right? Especially vice president. I think JD has found this to be a tough spot. When the president is the sun, the moon, the stars, you're sort of a secondary by far satellite there. Marco Rubio as Secretary of state and I. Sorry. As next NFL Commissioner and Ron DeSantis is next Supreme Court justice. If I hit both those buck, I might have to retire because I don't know. That would be incredible. More incredible predictions if you're looking for
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
code free meat@truenaturemeats.com welcome back in everybody to the third hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Still looking very closely at any updates on the second pilot. One pilot retrieved successfully after a apparent shoot down of an F15 in Iran. We will continue to monitor this and bring you any updates on it that we have something that I think is going to, well, hopefully going into this Easter weekend we'll have both of them back safe and sound and can at least move to the next thing we have to look at in this conflict which continues on Clay, we have much in the economy I think to look at as very powerful, very strong right now despite the fact that there are some high gas prices. We played this one before. This is from the first hour, but just hit it again. U.S. economy adding 178,000 jobs in March. This is cut one.
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Clay Travis
The expectation was what, 60,000 jobs and it's 178. Wow. Yeah, look, the job market bounced back in a big way in March and
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Buck Sexton
Clay, I think one challenge the Trump administration has had from the very beginning with all of this is they're really, they're almost victims of the, of their own success. The expectation is that the Trump economy will be strong. There'll be job growth, stock market boom, all kinds of productivity on the rise, and the American people becoming overall more prosperous in a lot of ways that can be measured. I know prices continue to be a major concern for people out there. This is the challenge of spending trillions of dollars with the COVID madness that we should not have spent because we should not have shut down at all. And the whole thing was just a disaster, a debacle from top to bottom with the government response to all of this. Here we have a moment in time, Clay, where I think the reality of the Trump economy is apparent in that it is so strong that we don't hear much in the way of criticism about it. And the people that would love to talk about what a, a total mishandling of the economy has occurred on Trump's watch have to say or really have to say nothing because there's not a whole lot that they can attack here. The price issue is still very annoying and certainly the price on gas, I think gas prices are gonna go down and I think the overall issue of prices is really still a hangover from COVID You had the highest inflation in 40 years under Biden. You had trillions of dollars of completely unnecessary spending. And we have not dealt with the spending really. And that's just the truth of it, that if you're going to criticize something, it's that both parties refuse to stop spending too much money and getting us deeper into the debt hole.
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Clay Travis
That's 100% accurate. I will say sometimes I think we don't notice some of the positive, transformative things that have happened in the early days of Trump 2.0. And I actually see these two things linked. One, we hit 125 year low in murders, which should be one of the great all time accomplishments. Right? If you said, hey, we're going to have fewer murders than at any point since 1900, seems like that should be like a really good thing.
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Buck Sexton
So, you know, it's interesting, I spoke to and this is actually maybe a pitch for the Clay and Buck podcast network. I spoke to a friend, Rafael Mangual of the Manhattan Institute. He's their criminal, they're a criminal justice senior fellow, analyst, writer, thinker and I spoke to him about this yesterday. Clicks. I said, so we're really at the lowest. And he says, by the way, the answer to your is yes, yes, certainly the lowest in like 60, 70 years. I mean they're saying 120. The, the statistics at some point are not apparently that really reliable. If you go back far Enough. But I think it's fair to say that murders. Although wasn't there a huge spike in murders during prohibition with and Capone and all that for anyway. But per capita, I mean, I think
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Clay Travis
you could go back in time and say the Wild west in a pre1900 era. I think they had a lot of murders. You know, like, I think the murder rate in Tombstone was probably pretty high compared to Phoenix today. For instance, in Arizona. Right. Was it?
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Buck Sexton
I want, I have to look at that. I've never really.
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Clay Travis
Oh yeah. I think the, the murder rate was off the charts back in the day. And by the way, you also just had people disappear. So I don't know that we even found dead bodies that well, you know, back in the day.
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Buck Sexton
Well, think about how easy it would have been to get away with it back in the day before, before video cameras, phones, forensic analysis, fingerprinting, all of these things. It would have been, you know, ballistics analysis. It would have been pretty easy to get away with all kinds of bad stuff. But this was interesting was when I was talking to Raphael about this and you can listen to this on the Buck brief from the Clay and Buck podcast network. He said that there are that in the Trump. The Trump program has worked. But to talk about why the Trump program of lowering crime has worked, you have to look at the specific places where it has been deployed. Memphis, D.C. and they have really done a phenomenal job. Memphis is a great example. Murder rate down 40%. But they have used federal resources that have been really collaborating with local resources. So that gets around some of the, you know, you'll have basically feds and cops in the same, you know, car or going around together working on gang issues, things like that. So that's been brilliant and that has absolutely worked. There are some broader though trends about the murder rate right now, for example, and he noted this. I thought this was interesting. I never heard anyone make this case before. There's been a precipitous drop in drinking in this country.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And I'm not trying to be, you know, church lady over here, like put down that beer. But there's been a precipitous lowering of drinking in recent years and particularly among younger, you know, youngish people and who commits murders. It's overwhelming. People 18 to 35. I mean, that's really where most of the, that's where most of the shootings are happening.
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Clay Travis
Young men, young men who are Pre marriage age 16 to 40 is like every murder.
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Buck Sexton
Right. So I'm not saying, you know, if, if you're sitting on the, on the veranda this weekend enjoying a nice glass of, of Bullet or something. You know, is that a good one? Is that, is that.
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Clay Travis
I look, I, I'm a Buffalo Trace family bourbon guy, so I'll probably have an Old Fashioned at some point this weekend.
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Buck Sexton
If you're a 55 year old enjoying an Old Fashioned this weekend, no one's saying you're going to go incredible, rip your shirt off and get super violent.
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Clay Travis
But yes, Bullet is a nice, is a good choice.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, there we go. So you know that, that's one that I think, for example, I think that's an interesting case to be made. He says the data backs this up, that the drop in drinking, broadly speaking, results in less violence and specifically less murder.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
So that's accurate. And also a lot less. He said that people, because of remote work, there is less concentration of people in cities in some places and particularly in places like people aren't on mass transit in the same numbers. People aren't having the same level of contact with each other because of so much more remote work. And that, that has. I just thought this was really interesting. I never thought of this before and this is a guy, all he does is look at the numbers. I should probably invite him on the show.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, that would be great. We should have him on to do a deep dive on this because I think that's super interesting.
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Buck Sexton
But also, and here's the really big one, the overall incarcerated population under Trump has been going up. Yeah. And that's really. Now the other ones, the other ones are just kind of interesting data nerd stuff. But that's really keep bad, scary, violent criminals off the streets. Clay. This is the big difference. And this is Trump U.S. attorneys because remember any drug stuff, gangs can be hit with rico. Any major drug crimes are federal. A lot of the time if you, if you're involved with a drug gang, you're carrying a weapon illegally and you're selling drugs, that's federal. There's a lot of stuff that falls under federal jurisdiction. And so it's whether the US Attorneys that Trump has appointed are willing to enforce the law meaningfully or not. The answer is yes. And people are getting locked up in Clay. Murder rate gone down a lot. It is possible.
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Clay Travis
So that is occurring. Buck and I would actually connect it with this one because it's also incredibly transformative and it's not getting very much attention either. Fewest federal employees because we added 178,000 new jobs this morning. Was the, was the official March number But simultaneously, we've been firing a lot of people who worked in federal government such that. And this is kind of a crazy stat. Again, it should be getting a lot of attention right now. We have the fewest Federal employees since 1966. Not per capita, the fewest federal employees, our tax dollars paying for federal employees since 1966. And I know everybody wanted to tap dance on Elon Musk and Doge. And it's frustrating that a lot of the Doge spending excesses were not ratified into law. I'm not signifying that's not significant. But the decision to go after the federal workforce and basically say, hey, we'll pay you to leave and go find a job somewhere else. We don't need taxpayer dollars to be able to be continuing to do it. Don't you think that's kind of interesting? Sometimes it's hard to think big picture because in the day to day there's so much noise and it's like we have a fire hose of data that's spraying out every day and it's hard to be on top of things. Two things that happened in the last year, lowest murder rate since 1900, fewest federal employees since 1966. Both of those are really transformative data points which are very beneficial. Now. Buck, is $39 trillion in debt still way too much? Yes. Do Democrats and Republicans join hands and just spend money like drunken sailors? Yes. Are there major structural issues with the level of debt that we have set in place in the United States? Yes. But I do think it's worth looking at some of these green shoots of positivity in Trump's first year and saying, hey, we should really kind of. Sometimes this gets snowed under in all the noise. Who's going to be the next ag? What's going to happen with the Supreme Court? I've got a data point for you on that coming back out of the next break. But I do think these are pretty insign significant details that are not going to get the attention they should.
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Buck Sexton
So yes, it is in fact the case. I looked this up, Clay. You're talking about a 21% decline in the US national homicide rate from, from 2024 through 2025. So that's the one we obviously have the complete year data from. You're looking at about 4 to 100,000 residents. So it's 4 per 100,000 people murders in the United States. Is that this? I'm just reading this off of, you know, AI as we're going here. I believe that's potentially the Lowest since at least 1900.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 125 year low. And again, no, I question in 1904, were we great at counting murders? I have a suspicion that maybe you could have gotten away with a murder in 1904 compared to now.
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Buck Sexton
The 2025 drop was especially steep in 31 of 35 large cities tracked by the Council on Criminal Justice, 40% plus drops in Denver, Omaha, and what now? Washington, D.C. of course, part of the Trump program. Clay, a big part of this is just going after. And this is, I think, something that, you know, we should. We should bring Cash Patel back. Team, reach out to Director Patel, because I want to talk to him about this. I want to hear from the FBI side. I don't think they're getting enough credit for this. I think more needs to be made of this. Think about how many lives you're talking about. Thousands of lives being saved by change in policy here. And I always have to point this out to people, too. Yeah, of course you're saving a life. That's the most important thing. But you're also saving with each life saved. In this case, you're talking about a family that still has a dad, a son, a brother.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Think of how it affects all of them. A community that doesn't have to go to a horrific funeral for someone who's, you know, 20 years old and was shot. I mean, this story. So I can't wait to talk about the story. This baby was killed in Brooklyn at a shooting. I mean, this horrible stuff that happens every time something like that is averted. It's such a blessing. I think the Jewish word is mitzvah. It's like, it's such a beautiful thing, Yiddish word, you know, and it's something that the administration needs to be talking to people about more because this needs to be the way it is going forward. Yeah. People who are bad, who are violent criminals, who are a threat to society need to be the first, the top priority, the number one priority of the FBI. Not people that showed up and took a selfie in the capitol building for 45 seconds and walked out after they had been guided in by law enforcement officers, which happened to a lot of people. Okay. That's not actually the top priority of the FBI. 30% of FBI officers, Clay, were in some way working on January six adjacent cases. People are being raped and murdered on the streets.
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Clay Travis
Yes, they're gang.
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Buck Sexton
They're gang members that are torturing people on video and sending it to, you know, the rival factions and we got, they're chasing down grannies in their, with their fanny packs on because they walked into statuary hall for a second. I mean, you know, really, the Biden FBI was doing. It's, it's, it's disgraceful.
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Clay Travis
Lowest in 125 years. 20, 25. Buck, let me hit you with this data in D.C. right now compared to last season, last year, a 66% decline in murders year over year. D.C. is on pace to be the safest maybe that it has ever been in the history of Washington D.C. certainly on a per capita basis, but maybe on a raw data basis. Remember when President Trump called in the National Guard, everybody said you're crazy. There's no impact that's going to happen here. Or they lied and said crime wasn't bad. 66% decline in murder since last year. We just don't have to allow murders. I think that's what we're learning from Memphis and Washington D.C. we know what we can do and we can drive it down in a substantial way. Look, I want to tell you, I'm looking out right now. I got a ton of new trees that are growing in my yard. It's spring. It's going to be like 85 degrees today here in Nashville, maybe even hotter in Nashville than Miami for the first time in a long time. And there are a lot of people that are going to be out this weekend running around with your families for the Easter weekend but also gardening, getting your homes ready for the brand new warm weather returning. Spring has sprung and fast growing trees can hook you up online nursery offering an amazing variety. Over 2 million customers that number growing every day and right now you get 20% off first time orders. Fast growing trees.com my name clay for 20% off that's fast growing trees.com 20% off. I'm putting them in at my house. If you love trees as much as I do plants, you don't have to have a yard. You can figure out what makes sense in your condo, in your apartment, in your town home and in your yard. If you are like me and have a yard with lots of different plants that you want to grow, well, fast growing trees.com my name Clay for 20% off. That's fast growing trees dot com. My name Clay for 20% off.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Follow and preset Clay and buck on the iHeartRadio. Welcome back in Clay Travis BUCK SEXTON show we are joined now by Mike Rogers. He is going to be the Senate candidate for Republicans running this fall in Michigan. For an open Senate seat there. Let's bring him in. That election, I believe in Michigan and he can correct me if I'm wrong, is August 4th, and in particular Georgia, New Hampshire and Michigan, among others. But those are right now Democrat held seats. Mike, we want you to win. If you win, then there's a virtual certainty Republicans would retain control of the Senate because I would imagine you would agree with this. There's almost no map where Democrats lose their Michigan seat and are able to take a majority in the Senate. So this is both important in Michigan, but it's also supremely important nationwide.
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Mike Rogers
Yeah, this, this is the number one pickup opportunity in the country. We're leading all three Democrat candidates in head to head polling. So they have a primary. It's going to go all the way to August 4th, which is really late. We've eliminated our primary. The whole team is on board and backed this particular race, which is why we're the number one pickup opportunity. So that's huge. And you're right, if they win, we win Michigan. They can't take back the Senate. So if you're looking for a place to invest in a race to make a difference for the future of the country, Michigan is it. This is the place to, if you have a little, a few coins left in the back of those cushions, fellas, this is the place to send that money.
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Buck Sexton
So it's great that you're the Trump endorsed candidate up there in Michigan that'll obviously have a lot of residents with the, the GOP faithful there. Can you speak to in your state? Independents, swing voters, what do they look like as a cohort? Is the primary issue for them just economics? You know what, what do you have to do essentially to get over the line here? Yeah, it's like every election turnout, of course, really matters. But if you're reaching those who are not just going to say, this is Trump's guy, I'm going to vote for him, what are those voters in Michigan look like and how do you reach them?
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Mike Rogers
Yeah, and so this is going to be that. Jobs, economy, wrong track for Michigan. This is a change election. And that's what I think the national pundits don't may have missed. The governor has been a Democrat for the last decade, better part of a decade. And They've had these two Senate seats, they the Democrats for 30 years. We've lost 30,000 manufacturing jobs. Our defense industrial base operations have moved south. We went from top tier education in the country. We're now 44. Our wage, median wage has kind of Flattened out in Michigan. So I worked on a factory floor. I have been in the military, I have been in the private sector. What we're saying is this is the time for change. You want Michigan back up off her knees and building things again. I'm the guy to get it done. And we have a plan to make housing more affordable that doesn't include a big government new government program. We have a way to push down on prices and recapture the defense industrial based jobs that we lost over the last few years. That's all coming back to Michigan. We will once again be the arsenal of democracy. So when you look at independence, they just want a better education, they want a better job opportunity and they want their kids to make the choice to stay in Michigan. And we're going to do all those
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Clay Travis
things three way race. You just hit on it between well funded Democrat candidates. You don't even know who your opponent's going to be. You won't know until August 4th. How much hay can you make given that you're the guy while they fight it out. And again, August 4th is a really late primary. Um, you know, by the time their primary is decided, there's almost early voting that's going to be underway. They're going to have to spend a lot of money to pick a nominee and then that nominee is going to have to spend a ton of money to make people aware of who he or she is. And by the way, we just had a controversy come out of the Democrat side. One of their candidates, a guy named Abdul El Sayed, didn't want to condemn the killing of the Ayatollah because too many people, he said in Dearborn were sad about it. And that actually made him go up in the Democrat Party. This is pretty radical group that you're running against.
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Mike Rogers
Very radical. And think about it, he's now the standard bearer for the party. He's gotten more Act Blue donations because of his embracing the Ayatollah. And by the way, that came on the heels of him saying that the, the individual, the terrorist who tried to kill 140 Jewish school children in, in Michigan by driving his car loaded with explosives into a synagogue. He said, well, if we weren't at war, he probably wouldn't have done that anyway. This is a guy whose father was, or excuse me, brother was a commander in the, in Hezbollah, a terrorist organization. Oh, and by the way, he had been radicalized months before his brother had been killed in an Israeli strike. I mean that just to me is unqualifying. If you're willing to stand with a terrorist. If you're willing to stand with the Ayatollah, the leading terrorist sponsor in the world, man, I just think that makes you unqualified. He's endorsed by Bernie Sanders, very radical. All of his numbers went up. That's why people need to pay attention to places like, Listen, you cannot allow the Democrats that are this radical getting traction in a place like Michigan. It would be devastating for us. And so we got a lot of work to do. But the other two aren't any better. One is, you know, one is a Chuck Schumer candidate. The other one has Chris Murphy as, as their benefactor. They've covered the gamut of radical politics in America. And that's why this race becomes even more important. To let that part of the Democrat Party, which, candidly, the three parts of it is, all of it, that they're not going to gain ground in a working class state like Michigan. And trust me, I worked on a car factory floor. I know these people. I know how important these jobs are to the middle class in Michigan. That's why I think we're going to do exceptionally well. And I think that's why we're leading. You know, it's pretty rare for a Republican to lead the Democrat candidates this early. Normally we close the gap toward the end. We're ahead. We got to keep that momentum, let them fight it out between now and August while we continue to build support around the state and build our team as well.
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Buck Sexton
Mike, what do you think about what's going on in Iran? Obviously, we're still waiting to hear if the second pilot has been retrieved safely. One pilot has been, has been rescued after his plane was downed in this conflict, in this situation. What can you tell us?
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Mike Rogers
Yeah, you know, I think, boy, it's really hard when you have to justify every minute of the war. I think for the President, it's unfortunate. I hope they found the second, get the second pilot. They've rescued the first one. Which tells you that's an incredible feat in and of itself. It wasn't that long after they were shot down that they had that one pilot in custody or retrieved. You think about what's this phase of the warfare. It's going closer to the ground and it's not stealth fighting. So that first part of this conflict in the last month has all been stealth fighters, Stealth bombers, Stealth fighters delivering payloads that are absolutely decimating the enemy like nowhere else in the world has ever really seen. And so this next phase, it's clear to me that they're Using lower capable aircraft. The F15E series can be lower. It can, you know, find smaller targets on the ground and engage them. And that's what that tells me. So with that, you know, you have certain shoulder fired missiles that they can have. You know, it's, those are hard to get all of them, you know, you can get a lucky shot and that sounds like what happened today. But we have to remember this is just a phase and I'm sure they'll address. The US will adjust tactics because of this, but it just tells you how successful. Now they're looking for targets with low. The ability to have low flying aircraft is we walk away from this with a degraded if not eliminated nuclear program capability. Ballistic missiles which by the way made them so dangerous in such terrorist proxy lovers across the Middle East. That's gone. The drone program is decimated and really hard to reconstitute. Being able to build and deploy mines in the straits, decimated, hard to. That's a huge win for safety and security of the region and certainly the United States. For 47 years we've had every president, seven I think talk about we're going to contain Iran. Matter of fact, Hillary Clinton said when she became president she was going to bomb them. People seem to forget that this is the first president that has said, listen, we're not going to let you get a nuclear weapon. We, we decimated your program. You came right back and tried to rebuild it within days. That tells you we had a problem. We're not going to do this forever. I think this is the right thing to do. I do think it will be over quickly because the military piece of this, they're getting down to the last targets which is why you have these low flying aircraft.
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Clay Travis
Last question for you. You mentioned this a second ago. The attempted terror attack thankfully was foiled on a Jewish synagogue in Oakland County. My wife's family, many of them live in Oakland County. I was just up for a bar in Bat Mitzvah in Oakland County's huge Jewish population, large Arab population in that area too. Are you seeing Jewish voters recognizing that many Democrats have turned their backs on them? Again, we mentioned one of the top candidates that you might be running against not wanting to even mention the Ayatollah being killed because some might be angry. Is that moving some of that electorate in Oakland county, which is a huge battleground county and has become in the Trump era, one of the real bellwethers in your state?
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Mike Rogers
Yeah, I think I've seen some of it. It's, it's hard to tell it's, you know, I saw a report where 40% of the Jewish population in New York City voted for Mandami boy, which is a head scratcher to me. I, I don't understand that how. Yeah. Be that high. Candidly.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Mike Rogers
So in Michigan, I think we're experiencing a little bit of that. I think it's starting to come around. I do think the attack on the synagogue brings it home. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to who in and around the state, who that was their kind of synagogue, that was their place of choice. That's where some of them went to school at an on occasion, it's the largest synagogue in the state. So it had a profound impact. I hope that they're coming to the conclusion you can't have a guy who's running who is now the front runner, Abdul El said, I want a Mandami Michigan, which he did. And wonder how, you know, our Jewish population in the state can even allow that to happen. I do see some waking up. We have a long way to go. And here's the other thing. I think it's really important for viewers to understand. We have other very big Arab populations that are Christian. Chaldeans, which are Iraqi Catholics is very big, big in Michigan. We have Lebanese Christians really big in Michigan. And then we have other Muslim groups who are not upset that what's hap, what they see happening in Iran. They know that their homelands have been terrorized all across the Middle east, those Arab countries, by Iran, the leading sponsor of terror. If they're not able to fund Hamas and Hezbollah and The Houthis and 10 other, by the way, small terrorist groups operating in that region, guess what? Things become peaceful. Their families back home become a little more safe. So we do have a pretty activist Muslim population there that's very pro Palestine. They're active and they're working at it. But there's other populations there that I think we're going to be able to get their votes going into November.
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Clay Travis
President Trump did quite well with Arab voters in Michigan, as you well know. And, and so there's a lot of people maybe in non traditional Democrat voting bases that are up for grabs. Mike Rogers, how can people help you if they want to get involved in your Senate campaign, which as you said is the top target to flip a current Democrat held seat.
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Mike Rogers
First of all, Clay is going to call all of his relatives in Oakland county and say, Mike Rogers, that's a little phone time play. That's really important. Secondly, go to Rogers for senate4senate.com if you think that a little bit of money can't go a long way, this is the race, this is the investment. If you want to protect the future of the country, you've got to get engaged in a race like Michigan. Let's win this thing and make it impossible for the Democrats to take back the Michigan Senate. I think that would be great for the country. Certainly great for Michigan. Rogersforcenate.com we'd love to have your volunteer time and any small donation coming across in our donation page means the world to us. So thanks for, thanks for having us.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, no doubt I'll be up. My father in law just had his 80th birthday so we're going to come up and celebrate that in the Detroit area in two weeks. So I will make the pitch to all my relatives at that event that they got to get out and make sure they vote for you.
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Mike Rogers
This speech there. Clay, why this is important.
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Clay Travis
I'll take over. I'll take over the MIC during the 80th birthday party and I'll get up on stage and make sure they all raise their hands and they're getting out to vote for you. Thank you Mike. Encourage everyone, everybody to get out on that website. It could control the future of the United States Senate. Michigan has a lot of important votes in their hands. Thank you sir.
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Mike Rogers
Hey, thanks Clay. Thanks Buck.
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Clay Travis
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Buck before we send you off for the weekend, which everyone has been working for, even if you weren't working, you were getting ready for it. So I want to tell you to go check out the Clay and Buck podcast network, which is fantastic. Some might even say fabulous. Some people are saying thank you for your attention in this matter. So you do that by going to wherever you get your podcast. I think the best place to go is the iHeartRadio app and then you can subscribe. We got great shows on there. Carol Markowitz, Tudor Dixon, Dave Rutherford, Ryan Graduski is crushing it with it's a numbers game there. People love that podcast. They're addicted to the political nerd stuff. So much great stuff there on the podcast network. And over the weekend is a fantastic time to check up and catch up rather on anything that you may have missed. Clay, are you, are you going to be celebrating Easter? Are you going to be a heathen? I saw you wearing pink last weekend on tv because I was wearing pink.
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Clay Travis
I will be at church, I believe, on Sunday. My wife is in charge of all family related obligations this weekend. So we've got family in town, the boys and you're, you've got a one year old. This is going to start to stack up for you. It's unbelievable how many sports and events that they have on an average weekend now. And it's never like super close, but whether it's soccer, my lacrosse, football, I mean, it's just unbelievable. Every weekend it feels like we have 40 different sporting events.
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Buck Sexton
I don't know if you're able to answer this or if this will get you in trouble so you can defer and just kick it into the weekend. As a dad, what sport that your boys play is the most fun to watch?
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Clay Travis
Football. Football. Football is the best sport to watch, I think. No matter, in my opinion, no matter what baseball is, I've coached them all. Baseball, I think is the most fun to coach because, you know, being a first base coach or a third base coach, you get to actually talk to them during the game. And I would say that's probably, I mean, I've coached soccer, baseball, football, basketball, all. And which one do you think you coach the best? Probably that's a good question. I don't. I think baseball, your overall coaching matters the least. I think probably football, it matters the most. So I would probably say basketball is the one that I had the most to impact on. At least it's fun.
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Buck Sexton
I'm going to go play some padel this weekend before I go for Easter.
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Clay Travis
Eat your pistachio ice cream too. Speaking truth and having fun Clay Travis
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