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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in for the Friday Edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us all over the country. I am suntanned, chastened. I had a debacle of a day on the golf course, as is often the case, but thanks to Paw to the guys who played with me who were fabulous across the board and we had a what I would say was a pretty good time across the board. We'll get into that a little bit as we move throughout the program. But Liv going on at Doral, I played yesterday, Buck with Paul Casey and at the turn, Charles Howell the third. So I got nine holes with each guys. Turns out they're both pretty good at golf. In case you wondered. President Trump flew in at the near the end of our round and I don't know if he's staying in Doral, the Miami area, to watch the tournament. I heard he was going to be there a decent amount on his golf course, but saw him walking in yesterday and the drama of the day, though, and I thought about this because I looked down at my phone a little bit as we were, as we were traveling and, and, and then also as I was on the golf course, I tried not to check my phone that much and I was like, oh man, stock market bucks just dodging bullets solo in the show, talking tariffs, taking calls, emails. Everybody's looking at their 401ks. And so I figured we probably should start off talking about this. Also, we'll take some of your calls. We got a loaded show. By the way, Senator Tommy Tuberville gonna be with us. Dave Rutherford, who is a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network, Dave McCormick and his wife Dina Powell, they have a great new book out. And Auburn men's basketball coach Bruce Pearl scheduled to call in. He's a fan of the program and he has got the Auburn Tigers playing in, in the NCAA tournament, which I also heard there Was some controversy surrounding Buck's pronunciation of tournament yesterday. Auburn playing against Florida on one side. Houston against Duke on Saturday.
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Clay Travis
I just need to clarify something, Clay. Cause after some of your video from the golf course made its way online, there's talk that you can hit 330 yards from the blues and that now people are calling you shooter McTravis.
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Buck Sexton
That would be a great. I'd be a great fantasy football team name. Shooter Mc Travis. I. I don't know that anyone has ever put four worse shots together to begin around than I did on yesterday with, you know, a PGA and live pro historically. Paul Casey, super successful guy. It's bad to hit a bad golf shot when you're playing with your buddies. It's really bad to hit a bad golf shot when you're playing with pros. So anyway, four worst shots that have ever existed in the history of gol. Sure, some of you out there listening are raising your hand saying, clay, you should have seen me. But I'm telling you, these were the four worst shots that have ever been strung together in the history of golf. Okay, what's going on? Stock market. I know I tell you not to look, but I'm just going to tell you what the latest is. Stock market right down, right now not going well. The s and P500 down around 4% so far today. And the Dow is down right at three and a half percent. That is not well. Okay, so general rule before, before we begin, I practice this to the best of my ability. I think if you have a 401k, if you have stocks, almost the worst thing you can do, especially if you have index funds, is sit around and look at them all the time and obsess about them. Because what the data reflects is your emotion gets the better of you. My emotion gets the better of me. And people overwhelmingly, when they try to time the market, sell at the time when stocks are near their lowest prices. Because you're looking around, you're saying, oh my goodness, I should have sold three months ago. And if I had, I would have X amount of money. And now that money's gone. This is the way people think. And so you sell at the absolute worst moment. And then you tend to buy at the absolute worst moment, too. Because when stock prices are going up, you look at prices and you say, man, I should have bought six months ago. Why didn't I do it? Well, I better do it now, because they're going to keep going up. And so people who are timing the market very often are buying at peaks and Selling at Valleys. Okay, so let's start there. Now, what is going on? But the way that I would sort of classify this, I was reading this morning, breaking this down. Trump is for better or worse, Trump is trying to correct decades of futility, whether it's with immigration, border policy, whether it's with waste and fraud in the federal government and our expansive and out of control budget processes in general, or trade agreements which have been fundamentally unbalanced against the United States for a long time. He knows he doesn't have very much time because he's only got. I know there's been a lot of talk about, oh, he's going to get a third. He's not. He's got four years. And he knows that he has to act super fast in order for things to start moving in a positive direction. And sometimes in order to fix things, you have to disrupt, you have to destroy, you have to tear down the existing systems. And we have gotten so used. This is the truth. Every politician tells you they're going to fix things, and then they get to Washington, they recognize how much of a swamp it is, how much of a mess it is, and they basically say, I'm just going to pass the buck along. This is why the $36 trillion debt exists in the first place, because most politicians presume that when the penalty is there to be paid, their careers are going to be over and somebody else is going to have to deal with the mess that they created. Trump is unique in that he sees these messes and he is trying to fix them now. I don't know. I wasn't able to listen, so I'm not sure how you kind of dove into it. Buck, my biggest so top line, we should have fairer trade agreements with many countries around the world. Most people would agree with that. The challenge right now is Trump is taking such drastic, radical action that many companies out there that made choices, believing that politicians would never really do anything. For instance, Nike decides, hey, we're going to make all of our shoes now in Vietnam. They spend all this money in Vietnam. They never think that the tariffs are going to come because they never think any politicians actually going to hold them accountable. Apple makes most of their phones over in China, now in India as well. It's much cheaper. And so as a result, they never thought what would happen here is happening. And so there's a bit of a panic over the drastic changes that are occurring. And what's that, what that's going to do to small, medium, large businesses. That's kind of my Biggest takeaway?
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Clay Travis
Well, what we're also seeing is a, a weak seam, if you will, in our, in our system, in that when you try to fix any kind of problem and there's pain associated with it, even if it's short term pain, there's no benefit politically for that. So you have to be willing to give the people their medicine first before things get better. And I've brought this up before, but there was, in order to tame crazy inflation coming out of the Jimmy Carter years, Reagan's policies led into a recession that lasted a couple of years, right? Maybe it was 18 months, something like that. But then you had an absolute boom in America afterwards. And a lot of the people and the so called experts were saying that what Reagan was doing was not the right thing at the time, or people were criticizing him then or they maybe criticize him now. If you're going to fix a problem, especially when it comes to spending, there's going to be a change in the way that the money is flowing and that means there are going to be some people who are unhappy. And it's interesting to see who's particularly unhappy Now, Clay, I don't, I don't sense that you get a lot of upset people on Main Street. I think you have a lot of people on Wall street who have gotten really addicted to just this endless flow of money printing. And as long as, when you're dealing in large numbers, right? So if you're running a multi billion dollar hedge fund or if you're at a massive financial institution and investment bank and the government is printing money and putting it out into the system and you're involved in the transactions and the monetizing, effectively the monetizing of money, you're good. You, you just want the flood to continue, right? But if you're somebody who is making $50,000 a year, well, every year that you're losing 3, 4, 5% of purchasing power and every year that you have a doubling of household goods like eggs or gas or whatever it is, that hurts. And so to deal with that in the system, you're gonna have to, you know, it's like squeezing the balloon somewhere. There's gonna be a cause and effect here. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And I think Trump deserves credit right now for being willing to do something that is a risk. I think there's no question about that. But also I think he's earned the right to take this kind of a risk based upon his stewardship of the economy the last time he was president.
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Buck Sexton
So I Again, I think you look at the border, it's solved. And I know nobody talks about it in terms of being able to have illegals come in. We still have to get a lot of violent predators.
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Clay Travis
Illegal immigration isn't solved, but border security is where we needed to be.
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Buck Sexton
We told, we were told it was impossible to fix without congressional action. Trump comes in and effectively illegal crossings at our southern border have ended. We got Elon Musk going to work trying to fix the larger economic deficit that we have built in our federal budget. And frankly, a lot of what he's finding, I think is blowing his mind and many other people's minds. And this is a lot to bite off. Trump also has decided, hey, by the way, we need to fix global trade imbalance. Here's the other thing, Buck. This is not something that Trump actually benefits from. This is why it's so rare. Almost every politician doesn't take on big challenges when the payoff occurs long after they are gone. The onshoring of jobs to replace the offshoring is something that takes years of investment. It's something, this is what we talked about that requires multiple terms of a probably Republican administration. Because I can't think of anybody who's Democrat and sane on these issues right now. And in the short term, it's gonna create pain. Now, if tariffs are so incredibly awful, as every left wing economist wants to argue now, why do they exist? This is a really difficult question, I think, for them to answer.
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Clay Travis
Well, people should also remember before the constitutional amendment that made it possible for the income tax. Right. Isn't that a constitutional amendment? I'm trying to remember. There's 27. I think that's right before the 20th century when the income tax came into effect, that I can say with confidence. The country was funded with tariffs. So it's interesting, and I know that we're a lot wealthier in, in 2024 than we were in, you know, 1824 as a country or 2025. Sorry, forgot what year it is. But we were growing rapidly and industrializing rapidly when tariffs were, in fact, the way the country was funded. Now, that's not to say that you want to try to fund America with tariffs, although Trump does talk about that a little bit. But it does go to. This clearly isn't the annihilation of, has it annihilated the Chinese economy? China has tariffs that are super aggressive. China Clay has tariffs, has currency manipulation, has IP theft, has. I mean, you add all the things that they're doing. Has their economy been destroyed? China 1980 versus today. Have they gotten richer or poorer with all these things that they have in mind?
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Buck Sexton
No, they definitely been playing the game. I think the best example, China taking advantage of US Buck is they took total advantage of labor laws and the trade agreements by just moving a lot of their production to Mexico. And so they can bring it into the country far cheaper. And that's one reason, you know, the technology has become such that people can just hopscotch around the world. I think Nike used to be in the Philippines. Philippines got too expensive, so they moved to Vietnam. They have just continued to move to the country where their, their pro, their product cost is the lowest. And, and again, the result has been, and I know many of you out there listening, know and feel this, that the average manufacturing worker in America is making a, those jobs just don't exist anymore. And Trump is actually trying to fix much of that in the Rust Belt.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. And look, he's not banning imports. And it is important to keep in mind that we're not hoping that we're going to start making all, you know, T shirts and sneakers necessarily in America. There are some things that would be very difficult for us to make profitably just based upon cost of labor here and expectations for what quality of life would be for a worker here versus in other places. I mean, there are, there's a lot of push, pull. But again, Trump has been very consistent on this clay. Something else we should remind everybody of. It wasn't that long ago when Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and others were talking about the huge problem of our trade deficit. So what happened to that? Where did all that go? And so we'll dive into some more of this. But I know right now this is, I think the Democrats are gearing up to make this their issue. They're hoping they're rooting against the country, let's just say that out loud, they're rooting against the American economy right now, now, because they think this is their pathway to retaking the House and maybe the Senate, although I think that's a stretch unless things get really ugly and stopping the Trump agenda. So we have to be aware of the politics in the background of this, too. And we will, we will take your calls on this. And let's take some pro and, and con. I mean, let's take some. If you really, if you love Trump, but you're really worried about the tariffs, I want to hear from you. And if you either love Trump or if you're iffy on Trump or whatever you think on Trump. But you think the tariffs are absolutely the way to go. We want to hear that too. So strong opinions either direction. Let's get them going. 800-282-2882. The Preborn Network of Clinics has a team of people who live by a mission to save the lives of unborn babies. They see the access and widespread availability of abortion for pregnant women, and they step in on the front lines to save lives by offering love, care and support to moms in need. This is how Preborn does their mission day in and day out. And so often, the first step in this, that's the game changer, is when Preborn welcomes that mother in with open arms and gives her a free ultrasound. Because when mom to be meets her unborn child in the womb and hears the heartbeat and sees the tiny movements of her child within, guess what? She realizes how important this bond is. Each ultrasound costs $28. You and I can make a donation to cover those knowing that it well may save a life. Most often, it does. Preborn operates clinics and communities across our nation where abortion rates are the highest. They do this on purpose to save as many babies as possible. In 20 years, they've saved over 300,000 babies. To donate securely, just dial 250 and say the keyword baby. That's 250, say baby or visit preborn.com buck preborn.com B U C K sponsored.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through the Friday edition of the program. We're going to take a bunch of your calls today. We also have a bunch of guests coming your way, 800-282-2882, if you want to weigh in. But I do think it's important to talk about how many of the people now saying Trump's tariff ideas are unacceptable actually were huge proponents of tariffs not too long ago. We played Nancy Pelosi for you. Here is Bernie Sanders in 2008 saying free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing. Cut for what they have said is that we need to not worry about manufacturing in America because what we should establish is a policy of unfettered free trade.
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Clay Travis
We don't need tariffs.
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Buck Sexton
What we need is to allow corporate.
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Clay Travis
America the freedom, the freedom to throw.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
To create wealth in America and good paying jobs in America. As we shut down plants, we move to China.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
It is kind of interesting here, Buck. This is when, if you remember the 2016 election, there was, and there probably are some of you out there that were deciding between voting for Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump because many people just wanted a disruptive force in the wake of the Barack Obama era. And there were a Lot of people, New Hampshire in particular. I remember this voter buck where people went to vote and they were deciding. It might sound crazy to some of you, but hey, do I want to support Bernie Sanders or do I want to support Donald Trump? That voter was real.
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Clay Travis
Oh, absolutely. And there was, this was an interesting remnant, a memory of that 2016 election cycle when there were Bernie people. And because I was at CNN at the time, there were Bernie supporters who would have to mutter out of the side of their mouth, well, I kind of agree with Trump on, on some of this trade stuff too, because they also took this pro, if you will, pro worker position. And you know, I think that there, there's my view on this, just to be clear. And we're getting a lot of your calls in and we want to take different opinions on this and hear from you. My view on this is as follows. One, the people, or rather there are a number of things. One, the people who are saying this is absolutely terrible, go back and look at them on the most important policy issues, on economics and otherwise in the last decade or two, they're wrong on everything. Okay? Everything they tell you is true, is not true, or everything they tell you will happen does not seem to happen when there's an important decision to be made.
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Clay Travis
We all, we all know that the US Is wealthy. We all know that our economy is very dynamic. But when it comes time for a choice, I don't think that a lot of the voices that are trying to tear Trump down have a good record at all. That's one part of it, right? Another part of it is you look at the effects of the tariffs around, of tariffs around the world and who has been doing them and why they have them. If it was so evidently a, so self evidently destructive, I'm sorry, but Canada, the EU wouldn't have tariffs on our products if it was such a dumb move. And if making people so rich was, what was what not having tariffs does, you'd wonder, well, I guess the EU just doesn't, doesn't want to be making money in these different sectors. So there's, and so I think that's another part of it that there's no real answer to. And then the other thing is if you want change, you have to be willing to change things. And I know that's a tautology, but you have to actually do something different from what you've been experiencing. The status quo is going to give you more status quo. Trump came in and he said he was going to change the border and he did. And as we've talked about, Clay, huge success. He said he was going to look at government waste, fraud and abuse. Doge is doing that. Hopefully they'll get a rescission package from Congress. If they do, I think that'll be a considerable success. This is a big, this is a big move. This is a big call. And Trump is rolling the dice on this one. I think he's earned the right to play the hand as he sees fit. I really, I, and I think that's in the best interest of the country right now. And you know what, Clay, if he's wrong, okay, then we'll double back, we'll bring these things down. It's not, we're not nuking Moscow over this. You know what I'm saying? This is not like a million people are incinerated overnight and you can't say whoopsie after that. I mean, this is about an ongoing negotiation.
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Buck Sexton
Two things. And then I want to play Barack Obama talking about the necessity of reciprocal trade agreements with China when it comes to tariffs. But gas prices are going to be based on the price of oil. Gas prices are going to be the lowest that they've been since the COVID basic shutdown. So a lot of you are going to be seeing gas prices lower than they have been since again in five years, basically. Second part of this, these tariffs are not supposed to impact the price of goods on a day to day basis in a substantial way in grocery stores, meaning whatever you're buying to eat is not likely to be impacted in a price. Those are the two places that I think most Americans notice cost. And, and so I think that if that happens, plus Trump has sent out a message saying, a truth social message saying that interest rates need to be cut again if, if there is a fear that we are sliding towards a recession, Jerome Powell should be cutting interest rates. A cut in interest rates, let me just point out, would free up a lot of the housing market. I just. The number of people out there buck who have 2 and a half or 3% interest rates, don't want to leave their home and yet don't want to be paying 7% for their mortgage rate to go somewhere else has completely discombobulated the entire housing park market. The run up that Joe Biden caused in interest rates going from 2 and a half to 7% as rapidly as it did for mortgages, for instance, has to rectify itself in order for the economic house to get in order. Those are three things that I see moving in a positive direction. Even though the stock market in the short term, as it as, as it is, clearly, I start off the show telling you exactly what's happening is down here. Is Barack Obama demanding reciprocity and trade agreements with China? This is cut six, Barack Obama, 2018.
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Clay Travis
When it comes to the international system of commerce and trade, it's legitimate for poor countries to continue to seek access to wealthier markets. And by the way, wealthier markets, that's not the big problem that you're having. A small African country is sending you tea and flowers. That's not your biggest economic challenge. It's also proper for advanced economies like the United States to insist on reciprocity from nations like China that are no longer solely poor countries to make sure that they're providing access to their markets.
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Buck Sexton
So again, China has eaten our lunch phrase that Trump has used quite a lot. China is saying they're going to reciprocate with tariff increases on United States goods. But I think the economic hand, the United States has much stronger right now than the economic hand that China has. And I would suspect, as a prediction, I would suspect that the phone lines are buzzing at the White House and that there are a lot of countries that want to unilaterally end their tariffs with the United States.
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Clay Travis
Well, some already have some.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Israel, for example, which is not a huge trading partner, but it's an important ally and a trading partner. They've come out and said, Prime Minister Netanyahu said, look, we're just, I like where Trump's head is at on this. Let's get rid of it. And we're going to deepen our relationship even more with America on trade. So there's also been a willingness, I think, to renegotiate some of the Canadian tariffs already. This is all, this is already happening. And the other part of this is it's a dynamic. This is what I meant, Clay, by this can be fixed. Right? This is not a, you know, this is not like the bombing of Pearl harbor where once you start it, you know, it's, it's going right. There's the day to day of how is this looking in the market? What does that other government do to respond? And here's the thing. Whenever, whenever they are upset about this, any country that has a tariff against the United States, on what grounds can they be upset about the United States putting a tariff on their, on their items?
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Buck Sexton
That's the entire crux of this, right? I mean, really, we're in the right. I mean, Trump, I think, in general would prefer just an even playing field for American goods. Compared to other goods. And so instead of us getting lots of other countries, including China, to your point, I mean, yes, look at the average income in China since 1980. The most of that money. To a large extent, that money is coming off of Chinese goods being able to be bought by Americans and the trade imbalance that that has created.
- [33:11]
Clay Travis
And then there's. We didn't even get into this yet. We talked. I talked about it a bit yesterday, Clay, when you were making Happy Gilmore look like a guy who can't even. Can't hit. You know what I mean? Weak swing, Happy Gilmore compared to Clay. But we talked about Stephen Miller and how I played some of his explanations of this. There's also a national security component of this. How can anyone tell me it's not just that we get a lot of our. I mean, when I say a lot, I think it's like 80 or 90% of different kinds of antibiotics and other. Whether it's precursors for computer chips or it's all. It's just a huge range. I mean, I can't even begin to explain, to run off the list of what we rely on China for. Imagine if during the Cold War we said to people, you know what, we need to rely on the Soviets for antibiotics. We need to rely on the Soviets for, you know, simple manufactured goods that are going to be necessary for us in a long conflict. People haven't paid enough attention to this in my mind, Clay. There have been concerns from the US Military, from the Pentagon all along about how long we can even sustain the arms shipments to Ukraine. Stretching our. Think about that. The Ukrainian war is stretching our war supply chain capability. Now, I understand it's far away, but the point is we can't make enough artillery rounds fast enough right now. So domestic industry is more than just whether you can buy cheap flat screen TVs is the point. And I think Stephen Miller's been hitting that point hard.
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Buck Sexton
Not only that, I mean, I've raised the question and I think it's a really tough one that nobody has an answer for. What happens if China actually invades Taiwan? If we had a war start. Our reliance on China to produce many of the goods that the United States has to have is actually, I think maybe buck, the largest national security issue we have. Leaving aside. Look, somebody could get a nuclear weapon and set it off somewhere around the world, right? I'm talking about in a state actor situation. The danger of China controlling so much of the flow of American commerce is that if they decided to engage in some nefarious action. We just have to wear it, I think, because we don't have the ability to produce our own products without China being involved.
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Clay Travis
No, I think we rely a lot on the Taiwanese being able to extract such a high price from a Chinese invasion of and what would probably there's a lot of different theories on this. There's a lot of war gaming around this. What China would most likely do, in my view is they would try to just launch missile and, you know, airstrikes, missile strikes and pummel the island into submission as much as possible. And then maybe they would try some kind of a amphibious landing operation which, you know, Taiwan is not big compared to China, but it's obviously very sophisticated technologically and it's, it's a rough country to invade. The back eastern half of it. There's a lot, it's very rugged. There's a lot of mountains. I'm just saying that we're really relying a lot on the Taiwanese, making it ugly for China much more so than I think we would just be able to ride in like the cavalry in a western movie and save the day. Would not be, it would not be easy or fun for anyone. And that's putting it mildly.
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Buck Sexton
We'll take some of your calls. We come back 800-282-2882. We got a stacked load of awesome guests, including a couple of different senators and a Final four coach, among others. Weekend holy grail for college basketball fans. Final Four coming, two big games Saturday, championship Monday. You can download the Price Picks app right now. Have so much more fun playing along with the Final Four. You know, it's kind of sad. My Atlanta Braves have started off the season. Oh, and seven they have yet to win a baseball game. Padres swept them. Dodgers swept them. Maybe they're finally going to get a win against Buck area. Lowly Miami Marlins playing tonight, I believe. If I'm not mistaken, I think my son's going to be at that game with a bunch of his friends on the Prize Picks app right now. You can play along all over the place. You can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play in Georgia. Get hooked up right now. Prizepix.com Code Clay you get $50 when you play $5. Again, it is prizepix.com Code clay $50 when you pay when you play $5. Pricepix.com Code Clay MasterCard, Visa, Discover. Easy to get your deposits in. Pricepix.com Code clay Geek out with the guys on the Sunday hang with Clay and Buck podcast a new episode every Sunday. Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in, everybody. We have Senator Tuberville with us now. Senator, appreciate you being here. Much to discuss with you today.
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Chad
Thank you very much for having me on it. Yep, there's a lot going on.
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Clay Travis
All right, let's talk first. We got some, some very important sports commentary and all that coming here in a second. But I do have to ask you, because there's a lot of concern out there. The headlines are really all dominated right now by what the market's doing in response to Trump's Liberation Day and the tariffs. You are in the United States Senate, the August legislative body that it is. You have to oversee a lot of what's going on with the economy with your fellow senators. Are you worried? Is this all part of the plan? What do you tell to a lot of our Trump supporting audience that has a little bit of concern right now?
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Chad
Well, everybody's a little concerned. But let me tell you this. It's called a great reset. I've been here four years and I've never seen the destruction of our country so fast. And what the Democrats did for the last four years and then eight years before President Trump went in for four years, he got it back on track to some point. But we're in trouble. This whole country's in trouble. And we cannot continue to run the football up the middle like we've been doing it. We got to start throwing the ball a little bit. That's analogy I've been putting on it. The game plan has changed. We're going to win this game and we're going to do things different because if we stay the course of what we've been doing, $37 trillion in debt will be just a small part of what we'll be in. And then we'll end up being a socialist country with third world mentality of crime and all the things that are going on. We have got to do something different. And it will work because President Trump understands it. So does Scott Bessett, the secretary of Treasurer, Treasurer Howard Ludnick, Commerce Secretary. They've got a great plan. I'm looking forward to it working.
- [39:51]
Buck Sexton
Senator Tuberville with us right now from Alabama. Appreciate you joining us. We're going to talk with Bruce Pearl, actually, a little bit later scheduled to in the show, and I'll ask you about him in a sec. I think he's the AP coach of the year. Not a bad guy, not a bad result there. But you have been sharing this story and our audience has responded to it in a big way. A young woman was in a fencing competition and she decided to take a knee rather than compete against a man who was winning many of these matches. You coached football. You've got a background in sports for a long time. Would you have ever believed that we would be in a position where one political party is saying men should be able to compete in women's sports and the other one is just saying, hey, we think women's sports should just be for women, and that it's truly turned into a Democrat versus Republican issue.
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Chad
It's unbelievable. And it's just a continuing motion of what the Democrats in this city of Washington, D.C. has done to the American dream. They have. They're trying to destroy it. We're not going to allow that to happen. This young girl who was fencing the University of Maryland, I think she was part of university, but she was on the USA fencing team, you know, refused to compete against a man. And she's exactly right. I mean, there's no, no, there's no business whatsoever for young boys or men to participate against girls or women. And you got to think about this, and President Trump's even said this, in a couple years, we're getting ready to have the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. We'll be the laughingstock of the world if we can't get this back going the way it should be. I can remember watching the last Olympics and, and that boy or man boxing against that young lady.
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Buck Sexton
Yep.
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Chad
And it was a mismatch. So we got to get it done. I've been, I've had three bills on the floor. All three of them have not passed. Not one Democrat ever votes to keep men out of women's sports. It is a disaster. Now I've got no men in Olympic sports, and we'll put that on the floor. But they're going to fight against it. I don't understand. I ask them, you know, what do you believe in and what we believe in the rights of everybody. How about the rights for young girls and women? Because we're going to lose women's sports if we don't watch it.
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Buck Sexton
Let me give you a little bit more detail for those of you out there who may not know young woman's name. Stephanie Turner, she said on Fox News this morning. I told them I was refusing to fence because this person is a man and I'm a woman and this is a women's tournament. The USA Fencing Organization then kicked her out of the tournament and, and has expelled her from being able to Compete. But this is a very powerful moment. It's on video, her saying, quite simply, I'm a woman and it's a women's tournament and I'm not going to compete against a man. And the fact that this is a political issue in any way is crazy. I coach Little League baseball. Let me tell you, if somebody had shown up with a 16 year old and tried to play in 12U, every parent in America would have said no. That's why we have age limits. This is also why we have men and women's sports.
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Clay Travis
Fuck, yeah.
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Chad
Yeah. And you'd have parents all over you, too. You'd had parents all over you if.
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Buck Sexton
You no doubt would have won, though.
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Clay Travis
Senator, Senator Tuberville, you know, President Trump has taken a, a very strong posture on this. And specifically in the case of Maine, we recall the governor of Maine got into a little back and forth with him and she said, you know, I'll see you in court. Which is generally not something you want to say to Trump because this guy, this guy lives for, for the conflict. He loves to throw down when he thinks he needs to and when he thinks he's in the right. Now it turns out that it looks like Maine trying to back off a little bit, but the federal funding is going to get cut to Maine if they continue down this pathway. I mean, do you support taking those kinds of, of actions to protect women in sports? What would you like to see done?
- [43:54]
Chad
Everything that we possibly can do. We have to do it. It has started not at the, just the high school or college level. It's got to start out in elementary school. It's got to start out in the, in the levels that we need young girls to be involved and enjoy participating in sports, to get them involved in it. It's made great leadership out of a lot of women over the years. I can remember when I first got into coaching, Title nine just started. And it opened up the avenues for many, many different sports that girls didn't have. Softball, volleyball, track. It got them involved. It's built leadership around this country. And I'm telling you what's going to happen. This transgender nonsense and the NIL at the same time is going to put Title nine and women's sports under because NIL is taking money away. You can't survive without money in athletics. And now you got transgender boys that want to participate. So it's a double whammy on, on women and girls sports. And, you know, it. It's a, it's absolutely ashamed we're even having to talk about it.
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Buck Sexton
We're talking with Senator Tommy Tuberville. I just mentioned Bruce Pearl. He's scheduled to join us in a bit. You're an Auburn guy. War Eagle for all of our Alabama and Auburn out there. You coached Auburn football, which has been a long time. Big winner. You had a lot of success there. Auburn basketball has not. Bruce Pearl has them two wins away from the national championship. He was just named AP coach of the year. How big of a deal is that and how hard are you rooting for Auburn this weekend?
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Chad
Very well deserved. I live in Auburn. I play golf with Bruce all the time. I was at a function with him a couple of weeks ago. He has done an amazing job of that program. I remember I got there in 99, were decent in basketball. Couldn't hardly sell any season tickets. Now you can't get a ticket. I've got. I live in that town and I beg to get a ticket to get into a game. He has done one of the best jobs probably ever done in college athletics to get something turned around. But you got to give kudos to the entire SEC of the. The athletes now that they have in basketball all across other than Kentucky. Used to be just Kentucky. Now they all can play basketball. And Alabama almost made the Final Four and it was close. I thought they had one of the top four teams, but they didn't make it. But Auburn's in it. I'll be voting here tomorrow. Unfortunately, I won't get to go to the game, but I'm looking forward to the game until Bruce. Good luck for me. I talked to him yesterday, but he's getting a little bit tight, uptight and. But that's Bruce Pearl. I mean he takes it very, very seriously.
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Clay Travis
Senator Choperville. You know, Clay twice this week had to go play golf. You know, I had to be here trying to save the Republic and hold together America to the best of my ability while my esteemed co host was out there on the links as one does. I don't know if you saw any video of him, but do you have any? You know, you. You are a phenomenal coach. That is beyond question. Can you give him any coaching on his swing? Because some people are saying some things about, about my friend Clay, about his golf swing and I feel the need to defend him. What do we have here?
- [47:04]
Chad
Well, most things start out with talent and you got talent and athletic ability. You know it. It's good that you can just play any sport and whether you're good at it or not, it takes a lot of pressure off it you know, it's good for exercise and all that, but it all starts with athletic ability. I think he's got some, but he needs to work on it. And again, not elite.
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Buck Sexton
That's right, Coach. You can. Only it ain't the Jimmies and the X's and those all the time. It's the Jimmies and the Jo. And I don't have. I don't have a lot of athletic ability here. When it comes to golf, my swing does not look good. I deserve all the criticism.
- [47:44]
Chad
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's. It. You can't win a lot of games unless you have players.
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Clay Travis
That was not. That was not the inspiring locker room speech from Coach Tuberville that I was expecting. He's basically telling Clay that gotta leave it to the pros. Well, raised some great money for charity earlier this week for Till the Towers and Senator Tuberville. Really appreciate you being with us as always. Thanks for making the time.
- [48:06]
Chad
Thanks, guys. Talk to you soon.
- [48:08]
Clay Travis
Okay, look, I mean, you know, we're talking about Clay's swing, but I got swung at yesterday. The pronunciation police. Oh, I need to hear this big time. Bigly, Bigly. Pronunciation police. Lighting me up over how I pronounce the word that I'm now, I guess, supposed to say tournament. They say it's tournament. I say tournament. Darn it. Like torn a grip. Although maybe it's Turner grip, actually, now that I think about it, which is what I use on my tennis racket. But no matter how you pronounce the word that begins with the T there. Big weekend in sports with the Final Four in the NCAA Men's Basketball tournament. Whether you're watching or listening to the games this Saturday or the championship game on Monday night, make sure you have the Prize Picks app downloaded on your phone. Clay, have you given out the necessary picture? Do we. Do you. You have, right? Or do we. What.
- [48:56]
Buck Sexton
What gave out for the. I have not given out Final Four picks yet. So we may try to do that in the third hour just coming up.
- [49:04]
Clay Travis
Okay. And I will tell you, it is very sad, some people are saying, very sad that Clay is ahead of me right now in the March Madness bracket. So it turns out knowledge of these teams does mean something, which is sad for me, but I'm hoping to catch up to him. But no matter what, see, even if you know as much about NCAA sports as I do, you can have a lot of fun with the Prize Picks app. And if you want to take Clay's expertise into account, he's going to give you those picks but prizepix just makes it all a lot of fun. Easy, fast withdrawals, safe and secure. It just makes watching the games more more interesting, more entertaining. And you get your money in as quickly as 15 minutes. You can use your MasterCard, Visa or Discover card for quick and easy deposits. Get your money quickly. Download the app today. Use my name Buck as your code to get $50 instantly. After you play your first five dollar lineup again, use code BUCK to get $50 instantly. And if you want, you can always just bet against Clay's picks. And then if you're right, you can call into the show and be like, hey, guess what? And you control him. And that's always going to be fun. No matter what you want to do. Use the Prize Picks app. Use promo code Buck Prize Picks. Run your game Stories of freedom, Stories of America.
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Buck Sexton
Inspirational stories that unite us all. Each day, spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Nate Silver
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Tommy Tuberville
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Tommy Tuberville
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Maria Konnikova
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Tommy Tuberville
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Maria Konnikova
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Jeremy Scott
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one.
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Clay Travis
I just knew him as a kid.
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Jeremy Scott
Long, silent voices from his past came.
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Clay Travis
Forward, and he was just staring at me.
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Jeremy Scott
And they had secrets of their own to share.
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Clay Travis
Gilbert King I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.
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Jeremy Scott
I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.
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Clay Travis
Every time I hear about my dad is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
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Jeremy Scott
I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.
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Tommy Tuberville
If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would.
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Clay Travis
Have been in jail. I would have never existed.
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Jeremy Scott
I never expected to find myself in this place. Now I need to tell you how I got here.
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Clay Travis
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Jeremy Scott
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in hour number three, 14 hours up, 15th hour underway. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us, encourage you as always. Go subscribe to the podcast. You can search out my name, Clay Travis. You can search out Buck Sexton. We had record numbers in March as we did on the radio front as well. Rising tide lifting all boats. And we appreciate all of you that are diving in to help make that a reality. We are joined now speaking of that podcast network, we have got a great cadre of phenomenal talent, whether it is Tudor Dixon, whether it is Carol Markowitz, Mary Katherine Ham, our buddy Ryan Garduski. You can find all of their podcasts inside of the Clay and Buck Podcast network. And we used to have, from a military perspective, Sean Parnell. He is now the chief spokesperson of the Pentagon. Kind of a big job to have, Buck. Not bad, right? And we said, hey, we want to find someone who has this same kind of skill set to be able to talk to the same audience that Sean Parnell was and continue to grow that arena. And Buck, why don't you introduce our guest and explain why he's the perfect addition to the podcast network.
- [56:33]
Clay Travis
Well, we wanted somebody who is a true patriot, who is completely supportive of the Trump agenda, but also brings substantial combat experience, is a leader, a mentor, a motivational speaker, former Navy seal. Our friend David Rutherford joins us now. He's launching the David Rutherford show on the Clay and Buck Network. Dave, great to have you, man. When is the first episode dropping?
- [57:01]
Buck Sexton
Get him up. Let me tell you this, Buck. Breaking news that has just happened in the past few minutes, for those of you out there that are active on TikTok, maybe you're learning dances like the dance that Buck learned. The TikTok sale deadline has been extended for 75 days. So the expectation is that an American owned company is going to have 51% or more of the overall TikTok universe. And you've been saying this is likely to happen for some time, I think.
- [57:33]
Clay Travis
Clay, we figured out what our next. You're about to win. This is a little sad for me. You're about to win a steak. Did I tell you this is fun? By the way, first of all, we had our good ranchers feast earlier in this week, and it was absolutely fantastic.
- [57:44]
Buck Sexton
Fantastic.
- [57:44]
Clay Travis
We. We just. Those steaks and Carrie made homemade ice cream. She thinks I'm getting too skinny. I think she's. She's feeding me good rancher steaks and homemade ice cream.
- [57:53]
Buck Sexton
I have to say that ice cream that she made, the homemade ice cream was maybe the best ice cream I've ever had. I mean, I agree. It was incredible.
- [58:03]
Clay Travis
Okay, well, now some of you are like, buck, why'd you get all this weight after you get married? My wife is an amazing cook and specifically can make the best homemade from scratch ice cream you've ever tasted in your. In your life. But we had great steaks. Everything else, you know, my dad, we're going to bring this into the betting conversation here in a second. My dad, Clay, we were down there. I was like, oh, you know, do you want to go to a steakhouse? And he just sort of threw this in there. He's like. He's like, yeah, bucko, we could go to a steakhouse. What about that one where you took Clay where they had all the sparklers and the dance?
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Buck Sexton
Oh, that's great.
- [58:38]
Clay Travis
I was like, buddy, that was great, but that was the most expensive steak in history. I love you, dad, but I don't. You know, that's a, that's a bet, losing, steak, steakhouse kind of thing. But anyway, he was really funny about that. He was like, that looked like fun. I'm like, yeah, it is fun, but, you know, I'm going to go. I'm going to go bankrupt, taking you guys to steak dinners. So instead of, I'm unfortunately, I think, about to lose, although I haven't given up hope. Haven't given up hope. Going to lose our March Madness bracket contest, which I thought I would, but I like to just, you know, like to talk a big game before I get wiped out. Our next bet, Clay, we can do on a, on a political issue. It was either you or I have to post a trendy TikTok dance on TikTok.
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Buck Sexton
That's. That's actually.
- [59:23]
Clay Travis
And this is an elite bet. And share the video from our X account as well. That's going to be the next one. All right, no more steak bets.
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Buck Sexton
We're going to get.
- [59:33]
Clay Travis
These are high, so you better be ready for this one, buddy. If it's like a midterm call or if it's something big in politics, you're going to want to feel solid on this one because Clay doing a shuffle dance, going to blow. Going to blow the flute AI stuff out of the water. And me doing a shuffle dance, I do not have the rhythm necessary for it. So there we go. Did we manage to get Dave on?
- [59:52]
Buck Sexton
Yeah, we've got him. He's ready to roll.
- [59:54]
Clay Travis
Dave Rutherford joins us now. What's up, man? Tell us about. Tell us about the new podcast, what you got in store for us.
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J
Well, I don't want to jump into that yet. I want to talk about how I get into this whole thing with. With my tick tock dance, man. I know I can. I can bring it to you guys. Pretty good, I think.
- [60:12]
Clay Travis
I will tell you this, Rutherford, for a man who has learned substantial skills of firearms, I've been to the range with Dave countless times. He's a great instructor for. For myself, others. We've been out many, many times with Dave. He knows explosives. He knows hand to hand. He's handy with the tennis racket, too. So he's a man of many skills and talents. So if. If we also call him Rut for everybody, because his last name is Rutherford. So if you hear me call him Rut, that's. That's his nickname. But. But Dave, yeah, we can get you in on all these bets, man. Cause you're in the family now. You're part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. I think you're launching Monday. But tell everybody a little bit about yourself, because we only bring studs and winners into the podcast network, as evidenced by how the ratings grow month to month.
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J
Well, I mean, I. It's such an incredible honor to be with you guys. I mean, you guys have been the people that I've been paying attention for as long as I can remember. The way you guys deliver your information, it's just such a privilege and honor. You know, as a former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor, you know, I was like, man, I'm pretty fired up. But this is definitely a little intense getting on with you guys and represent you guys. But I think, you know, with my background and also, you know, my background as a motivational performance coach, you know, I did win a World Series with the Boston Red Sox back in 2018. What I'm stoked to be able to do is to bring all of that except experience to your audience and hopefully develop my own following. But really to dig into all the different ideas. I mean, not just motivation and performance and tactical or security analysis, but more so just opinion on the cultural wars that are taking place, the craziness we're seeing in schools, and then what's going on around the world, man. I mean, this tariff, this tariff war has got me kind of fired up right now, but we're going to hit everything on the David Rutherford show, that's for sure.
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Buck Sexton
What do you think? When you look around now, there are positives starting to kind of show up everywhere. In particular, it seems like a lot of younger guys and gals are willing to serve the country. The Marines, the military, they're hitting their recruitment goals, which they hadn't been doing for a long time. What do you attribute that to? Do you think there's this wellspring of patriotism that hasn't been tended to that long, but that younger guys and gals are starting to respond to?
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J
Clay, that's 100% what it is. I mean, what numbers, you know, prior to Trump getting in office were the lowest numbers we've seen since late 90s. And that's when I, when I first joined. I mean, it was pathetic back in those days. I mean, we. We didn't even have enough money at Seal Team 1 to do a full training profiles. And then obviously the GWAD exclusive exploded and everybody wanted to serve. Patriotism was everything. Flags were everywhere for the first part of that war. And then as people grew tired of it, and then what really I think was the most detrimental thing out of all was just how Iraq wound down, how obviously the Afghanistan pullout was an atrocious abomination in every way, shape or form. In my opinion, it was worse than Saigon. But, you know, I think it's more than that. It was the DEI stuff. It was, you know, a lack of meritocracy in there. But now, man, Pete's back in office, you've got Bongino as Deputy Director of the FBI. You've got a resurgence in American patriotism, American pride. And I think young men out there are ready to put their courage on the line for what American really stands for. And so. So I think that's a direct correlation for sure.
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Clay Travis
Talking to our friend David Rutherford. His David Rutherford show launches in the Clay and Buck Podcast network coming up on this Monday. So make sure you go to the iHeart app, wherever you get your podcasts and subscribe. You know, Dave, I think also one thing that you bring to the table that is going to be really interesting as perspective. And I know you're going to be covering big news of the day, of course, and getting into, as you said, culture war stuff and where things stand based on the news cycle. But. But you're both a seasoned, a grizzled warrior and a girl dad. And in an era of questions about what American masculinity means, I mean, I think to be a seal, to have been to combat, and now to be raising four girls, and, you know, these are voices that we just need to have more out there because there are some folks who are running into this space and building substantial followings who maybe diagnosed the problems of masculinity the right way sometimes, but definitely don't have the solutions. I think you can bring the solutions or you can bring the advice that young men and guys your own age need to hear.
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J
Well, I appreciate you saying that, Buck. I mean, the most thing that I care most about in this light, in this world are my four daughters and my wife. Right. And that's my. My faith and wants me to believe that. But what I also do and I have been doing for the past, you know, 20 plus years is I've been mentoring young men. I've got one young man I've been meant to touring since he was 12 years old. He's 33. He's currently at Seal Team 6. Right. I've got another young man I started mentoring when he was 16. He went on to the Virginia Military Institute and then just left being a Green Beret after eight years. And so I do have a track record of not only, you know, mentoring athletes, but also young men in terms of pursuing their heightened ambitions. You know, the biggest things that I want my daughters to be aware of is strong, confident, courageous and noble young men. And so how do you teach that? How do you teach courageousness? How do you teach nobility? And I think what it really is is going back to those core stories of great men that built this country. And so what I'm really going to focus on doing is bringing those stories back, bringing that culture back to the forefront of the consciousness of young men in this country. And hopefully, you know, as they're out searching for, for the right role models or mentors. I'm sure I'M telling you what, I'm really hoping that I can provide that. That voice and that conduit so that they have something that they can model themselves after.
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Buck Sexton
No doubt. I cannot wait for this podcast to get underway. We are excited about it.
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Clay Travis
I just one thing I want to throw in Clay. First of all, everyone, Dave Rutherford show, first episode Monday. Go check it out. It drops. It's going to be a fantastic show. Dave is a dear friend. He's a great patriot. He's the kind of guy you want to hang out with. He's the kind of guy you want to go shooting with. I've gone many times with Dave Clay. To that end, we're going to now for sure get you out.
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Buck Sexton
I need all the help I get.
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Clay Travis
Range day. We're going to get Clay. I mean, Clay's going to be out there shirtless with the M60. I'm telling you, right? We're going to make this happen.
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J
Well, Clay. Clay's natural athlete, man. I watched the video, him playing golf with the president last week, man, and I was like, okay, that dude, we can get him on. On the range. We can get him doing some I ads, you know, certainly. I hope he doesn't show up wearing shorts like you do, Buck, but. But I know he'll be squared away.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, you know, it's funny, real quick, for those of you who know Tonto from. From 13 hours, I show up at shorts one day to range day. Clay and I go, and Ruth's like, you're wearing shorts. I'm like, tanto wear shorts and ruts like, yeah, but he's Chris Paranto.
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Buck Sexton
That's awesome. Fair. That's awesome. I can't wait to check out the podcast. We appreciate you coming on and being a part of the network and look forward to getting out and you trying to make me look like I can actually hit something.
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J
You got it. Thank you, gentlemen, so much. It's such an honor to be a part of the Claim Buck Podcast Network. Thank you for the opportunity. I promise I won't let you guys down. I'll grind harder than I did when I was in the teams for you.
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Clay Travis
Love it. Thank you.
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Buck Sexton
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Tommy Tuberville
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Jeremy Scott
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season one.
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Clay Travis
Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer.
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Buck Sexton
He's just straight evil.
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Jeremy Scott
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.
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Clay Travis
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Jeremy Scott
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