Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 1 2025

Summary

Summary of "Daily Review with Clay and Buck" – August 1, 2025

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
• Hosts: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
• Episode: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 1, 2025
• Release Date: August 1, 2025
• Description: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics, and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, they guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with engaging conversations and opinions.

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1. Introduction and Overview

Timestamp: [00:04] – [02:30]

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton open the Friday edition of their show on a summer day, expressing optimism for America's current state. They delve into recent news, highlighting Kamala Harris’s first televised interview with Stephen Colbert as a significant event in her political trajectory.

Notable Quotes:

• Buck Sexton [00:04]: "It's a great time for this country, my friends. A great time for this country, and I want you to enjoy it."
• Kamala Harris [01:01]: "This is the first interview she's done since basically she lost the election, she vanished for what are we sitting on now, like seven or eight months, and now suddenly is showing back up..."

2. Critique of Kamala Harris’s Interview

Timestamp: [02:30] – [05:55]

The hosts critique Harris’s presence on Colbert’s show, questioning her decision-making and political future. They express skepticism about her potential runs for higher offices, emphasizing their belief that her leadership has been ineffective.

Notable Quotes:

• Buck Sexton [02:30]: "Kamala is at least going to run. That's not a crazy... but that's obviously our bet."
• Clay Travis [05:55]: "She’s been in the system for her entire life. ... I think her advisor said it's actually a backwards step for you to be governor because you've already been a senator, you've already been a vice president."

3. Discussion on Political Leadership and Party Dynamics

Timestamp: [07:24] – [09:02]

Clay and Buck discuss the broader implications of Harris's actions and statements for the Democratic Party. They highlight the lack of clear leadership within the party and criticize officials like City Council Member Victoria Parks for their response to violent incidents.

Notable Quotes:

• Buck Sexton [07:46]: "She was asked on the Colbert show who the leader of the Democrat party. ... It is a mistake for us who want to figure out how to get out and through this and get out of it. To put it on the shoulders of any one person."
• Buck Sexton [09:02]: "Everything that she says sounds like the HR person at the soulless company lecturing you."

**4. Interview with Senator Bernie Marino on Cincinnati Violence

Timestamp: [05:19] – [31:01]

Introduction of Guest: Buck welcomes Senator Bernie Marino, congratulating him on flipping Ohio's Senate seat and discussing a recent violent incident in Cincinnati that has raised concerns about law enforcement and political leadership.

Key Discussion Points:

• Violent Incident: A middle-aged woman, Holly, attempted to intervene in a street brawl in Cincinnati, resulting in her being brutally attacked by a mob. She suffered severe injuries and faced inadequate support from local authorities.

• Political Leadership Failure: Senator Marino criticizes local leaders, including Congressman Greg Landsman, the mayor, vice mayor, and City Council Member Victoria Parks, for their lack of response and accountability. He highlights the absence of adequate police presence due to a significant shortage of officers.

• Call to Action: Marino demands immediate reforms, including proper staffing of the police force and comprehensive safety plans. He threatens to suspend federal funding if the city fails to act within 30 days.

• Media and Public Response: Marino points out the misleading media portrayal of Holly as a Russian national and emphasizes the need for factual reporting. He contrasts the lack of response with the urgency of addressing violent crimes in American cities.

Notable Quotes:

• Senator Bernie Marino [17:07]: "This is top to bottom system failure in the Cincinnati political leadership. ... They have 30 days to put together a plan to protect the civil rights of their citizens."

• Buck Sexton [25:35]: "Why are you talking about Kamala Harris who's the leader of the Democrat Party? ... This matters."

• Senator Bernie Marino [26:14]: "A middle-aged woman from Ohio should be able to go to dinner in Cincinnati and not get beaten to death. Very simple."

5. Transit to Senate Nominations with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen

Timestamp: [33:13] – [44:43]

Introduction of Guest: Buck introduces Senator Mark Wayne Mullen from Oklahoma to discuss the ongoing bottleneck in Senate nominations, highlighting the unprecedented number of filibusters obstructing the confirmation process.

Key Discussion Points:

• Senate Nomination Bottleneck: Senator Mullen explains how the current Senate rules have led to a stagnation in the confirmation of nominees, contrasting it with past administrations where most nominees passed through via unanimous consent or voice votes.

• Historical Context: He provides statistics comparing past presidents’ nomination success rates, indicating a sharp decline under the current congressional leadership.

• Proposed Solutions: Mullen advocates for the "nuclear option," suggesting significant rule changes to expedite the confirmation process, albeit acknowledging potential resistance from Senate Democrats.

• Impact on Governance: The delays in confirmations are portrayed as detrimental to government functionality, preventing necessary appointments to key positions.

Notable Quotes:

• Senator Mark Wayne Mullen [33:13]: "There is a new unprecedented bottleneck in the Senate, preventing nominations from moving forward efficiently."

• Senator Mark Wayne Mullen [37:23]: "If they won't allow the login to be broke and start allowing bipartisan nominees... we have to change the rules."

6. Data Insights with Ryan Garduski on Party Identification Shifts

Timestamp: [48:12] – [63:26]

Introduction of Guest: Buck brings in Ryan Garduski, host of the "It's a Numbers Game" podcast, to analyze recent data on political party shifts, particularly among young demographics and Latino voters.

Key Discussion Points:

• Shift in Party Identification Among Young Men: Pew Research data indicates a significant swing towards Republicans among men under 30, with a 44-point increase from 36% to 52% identifying as Republican.

• Latino Voter Dynamics: A poll from Equus Research reveals that only 8% of Latinos who voted for Trump in 2024 plan to vote Democrat in 2026, suggesting a lasting realignment rather than temporary defection.

• Impact of COVID-19: The pandemic’s impact on Generation Z is highlighted as a major factor influencing political attitudes and party affiliations, comparing it to historical events like World War II in shaping generational politics.

• Cultural Counter-Revolution: The shift is attributed to a cultural pushback against the "woke agenda," with young voters seeking representation that aligns with their pragmatic and moderate values rather than purely progressive stances.

Notable Quotes:

• Ryan Garduski [48:41]: "There's a trajectory that you'll pay attention to. If you look at the Latino vote, the working-class Latino vote, the fact that 2/3 are saying, no, I'm probably either undecided or I'm definitely sticking with the Republican Party."

• Ryan Garduski [55:59]: "I am more of the side that Kamala Harris is probably finished with politics... a lot of people have missed this."

7. Conclusion and Final Remarks

Timestamp: [63:26] – [64:56]

Clay and Buck wrap up the episode by emphasizing the critical insights shared by their guests. They encourage listeners to stay informed and engaged with the political landscape, highlighting upcoming discussions and promoting their network's other podcasts.

Notable Quotes:

• Buck Sexton [54:00]: "It's a Numbers Game is his podcast on the Clay and Buck network. So go sub, a great time to listen to it this weekend."

• Clay Travis [64:56]: "This is an iHeart podcast."

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Overall Themes and Insights:

• Criticism of Democratic Leadership: The episode consistently critiques the Democratic Party's leadership, particularly focusing on Kamala Harris's perceived shortcomings and the party's inability to address violent incidents effectively.

• Senate Dysfunction: Highlighting procedural deadlock in the Senate, the hosts underscore the inefficiency in the confirmation process and the need for significant rule changes to restore functionality.

• Shifting Political Demographics: Through data analysis, the show discusses the notable realignment of young voters and Latino demographics towards the Republican Party, attributing this shift to cultural factors and dissatisfaction with the current political climate.

• Law and Order Concerns: The violent incident in Cincinnati serves as a focal point for broader concerns about law enforcement shortages, political neglect, and the safety of American cities.

Concluding Thoughts: "Daily Review with Clay and Buck" provides a critical examination of current political dynamics in the United States, combining guest interviews with data-driven analysis. The episode emphasizes the need for leadership reform, efficient governance, and understanding shifting voter landscapes to navigate the evolving political environment.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome, everybody, to the Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. It is a summer Friday. I hope you're all in a. A good mood because it's a great time in America, my friends. A great time for this country, and I want you to enjoy it. August 1st today. Can't believe how quickly the time is going by and we have a lot of news to talk to you about. So we're going to send you off for the weekend with everything you need to know, everything that's going on, Clay. Because I am a team player, a dedicated co host, and somebody who's willing to take one for the team. Somebody who's willing to take those slings and arrows. I didn't just watch the Kamala Harris televised Colbert interview. Oh, no, sir. I watched the entire extended online version.

[Kamala Harris]

Of the interview, which I appreciate you taking the bullet. I have not watched it. I mean, I saw the clips all circulating. This is the first interview. For those of you out there who say, why would you pay attention? This is the first interview she's done since basically she lost the election, she vanished for. What are we sitting on now, like seven or eight months, and now suddenly is showing back up and she chooses, of course, Colbert as her debut.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. And it is such a reminder now, Clay, I, you, I want to be clear here. Clay was not saying. And we have a stake on this one. And I'm, I'm still trying to get back the world's most expensive steak that I had to buy for Clay. Right. So there, there's got to be payback here. It was very good. And there was a whole light show that went along with it. So we had some fun here in Miami Beach. I hear about this place, Bourbon Steak in Nashville, which has incredible views and is very fancy to be fair.

[Kamala Harris]

It's a chain. But. And I'm gonna make enemies today. But if you were visiting Nashville and you were asking for where to go steakhouse, cause it's all the way at the top, like 43rd story. You can see the whole city. I would suggest that that's the best steakhouse to go to.

[Buck Sexton]

I just. Now, as long as it's expensive, as long as you have to take out that Clay credit card and we do substantial damage, that's what I'm really looking for because I'm still smarting over the Miami beach steak. But to be clear, Clay's thinking in a few years, and we're not going to get too into the back and forth on this today, but we did that yesterday. That Kamala is at least going to run.

[Kamala Harris]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

That's not. That's not a crazy. I think that that's not going to happen, but that's obviously our bet. I think we both agree if she runs, that's amazing for Republic, or rather if she were the nominee and won, that would be amazing for Republicans. Which means I think we both see this as this is one of the worst politicians to have been at this level, a vice president stepping in to run as the nominee that we have ever seen. I just wanted to share with some of you so Clay and I could have do a little joyriding here through the Colbert interview. Clay, you haven't even heard all of these yet because some of them are from the.

[Kamala Harris]

I wanted to react to them. In all honesty, I knew this was going to happen. I knew we would lead with it. And I want to react as if a lot of you out there are too. I have not heard one. I've seen the clips circulating, but I purposely did not watch any of them because I knew we'd be reacting to them.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, I just want to point this. Why did I start off today talking about it's a good time for the country and it is. I saw the jobs numbers, not great. I understand it's one month, no big deal, economy overall doing really well. And we'll get into some of those specifics here in a moment. But I think it's important to remind you all that that this person that we're about to play the clips from could have been the president of the United States. Ok. That we could be sitting here talking about President Kamala six months into her administration with a stalled out economy, a wide open border, rise in crime instead of the drops in crime that we're seeing actually nationwide now, never mind all the executive orders that a Harris administration, the staffers who actually run it would have signed. It would have been a nightmare. And I just think when you start to listen, Clay, to some of these Kamala clips, I mean, first of all, we have her saying that she's decided not to run for governor because the system is broken. Clay, play cut. This is Cut five. Play five announcement that you're not running.

[Kamala Harris]

For the governor of California.

[Clay Travis]

Correct.

[Stephen Colbert]

Even though in early polling you beat.

[Kamala Harris]

Every other candidate by double digits.

[Stephen Colbert]

You said you're going to set this one out.

[Buck Sexton]

Why are you sitting this now?

[Stephen Colbert]

Are you sitting yourself for a different office that might be.

[Bernie Moreno]

No, no, no.

[Kamala Harris]

That's what everybody obviously, obviously people project.

[Stephen Colbert]

Onto their hopes and dreams.

[Clay Travis]

And honestly, that it's more perhaps basic than that. I am. Listen, I am a devout public servant. I have spent my entire career in service of the people. And I thought a lot about running for governor. I love my state. I love California. I've serv. Just elected district attorney attorney general and Senator. But to be very candid with you, I. You know, when I was a young. Young in my career, I had to defend my decision to become a prosecutor with my family. And one of the points that I made is, why is it then, when we think we want to improve the system or change it, that we're always on the outside, on bended knee or trying to break down the door? Shouldn't we also be inside the system? And that has been my career. And recently I made the decision that I just. For now, I don't want to go back in the system. I think it's broken.

[Buck Sexton]

It's broken because she didn't win, Clay. That's why it's broken.

[Kamala Harris]

I hate this. I hate this. She's been in the system for her entire life. You and I and every taxpayer out there has funded Kamala Harris's entire life. Has she ever had a private sector job that means taxpayer dollars are not funding her existence? I don't think so. Maybe when she claims to have worked at McDonald's as a teenager, but as an adult, she has worked inside of the state apparatus at California and, and then inside of the federal government apparatus as a senator and as a vice president. You don't get to work inside of a system for 30 years, 35 years, whatever the heck the math is, and then suddenly step outside of it for six months and say, hey, I don't want to go back into it because it's broken. I think, and I said this yesterday, and I am going to die on this Hill. I think her advisor said it's actually a backwards step for you to be governor because you've already been a senator, you've already been a vice president. You don't need to prove anything by being governor. And so just take a little bit of time, just take a little bit of time off, and then you can decide to run next year, a little bit after next year, early 27, to be president.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, and if she lost, I think you and I agree on this point. If she lost the California governor's race.

[Kamala Harris]

And then career is.

[Buck Sexton]

Then she really is toast. Her career, then she really is toast. I still think that really what I'm seeing here with this Colbert appearance, and by the way, this goes to. For anyone who's going to say and we're going to get the emails that momentarily, I'm sure. Why are you talking about Kamala Harris who's the leader of the Democrat Party?

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Who is the leader right now? This matters. And in fact she was asked on the Colbert show who the leader of the Democrat parties. This is cut 8 and you got a very Kamala answer on this one. Listen, who's leading the Democratic Party?

[Bernie Moreno]

I'm just curious.

[Clay Travis]

There are lots of leaders and there's.

[Kamala Harris]

Generally all leader of the Democratic Party.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, like, oh, that's the leader party. Who comes to mind.

[Clay Travis]

I think there are a lot of. I'm not going to go through names because then I'm going to leave somebody out and then I'm going to hear about it. But let me just, let me say this. I think it is a mistake for us who want to figure out how to get out and through this and get out of it. To put it on the shoulders of any one person. It's really on all of our shoulders. It really is.

[Buck Sexton]

Everything that she says, Clay, sounds like the HR person at the soulless company lecturing you as you're forced to have like an all hands for HR purposes. It's all she speaks to everyone like we're all morons and no one can escape the boring inane things that she has to say.

[Kamala Harris]

She is DEI personified. I do think that leave aside her individuality, she is DEI personified. She looks like what Californians think their leader should look like. That is, you know, she's mixed race, Asian mixed race, black woman, attractive. And she is that sort of portrait on the wall of what California wants to see when they see a leader. The problem is she really is an empty suit. And that's I think largely what many people out there have an issue with. Di best man or best woman. Right. Let's apply the meritocracy. It doesn't matter what your background is, doesn't matter who your daddy or your mommy were. This is why I think the sports analogy applies. Nobody gets to start with a different score on the scoreboard. Right. And I think that that is why I'm making this argument in my new book. And I'm curious if you could think of something. Is there anything in sports, anything in the world of American life right now that's more trusted than the scoreboard where people just. And if something's a little bit off, right. If somebody forgets to put a run up or if the clock's a little bit off, everybody's pointing at it. It's a common foundational thing that everybody looks at and says, I trust that to reflect reality.

[Buck Sexton]

I would like to share some sports analysis here.

[Kamala Harris]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

That would build on what you were saying. And that is the desire to always get it right is reflected in some of the recent rule changes. I mean, to me, the fact that I can't remember now, I should know this, but it's either Wimbledon or the French Open in tennis doesn't yet have all of the like for serves. It's still by the eye of the. By the sight of the umps. There's actually technology now that can 100% get.

[Kamala Harris]

They have the lasers basically there, and they're like this. Did or did not go in. They used to look at Roland Garros back in the day. They would look at the clay marks. You remember that the judge would get up and look. Yeah. And you're right.

[Buck Sexton]

But I see this, I see this now also in basketball. You should drive me insane as somebody who used to watch the NBA. People want it to be what it should be because they want the better team to win every time.

[Kamala Harris]

They want the truth to apply facts to matter. Everyone does.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

And.

[Buck Sexton]

And you see it, it is true. You see this with sports where there is a true sense of outrage that people. I mean, I'm still outraged about when the Los Angeles. I mean, when the Sacramento Kings had the LA Lakers steal a series from him and the Kings would have won that. I think this is like 20 years ago now.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, yeah, the most famous. It's one of the most famous. The Lakers, Lakers, Kings, Vladi Divach, Bibby, all those guys back in the day, that series just kind of fell apart.

[Buck Sexton]

And I think we want to get back to feeling in Poland. This goes to election integrity. This goes to the honesty of the transparency. We're seeing a whole range of things. Russia, collusion, everything. We want to know what the real scoreboard is in politics too. And what's gone on here. And Kamala Harris coming out to give everybody a lecture on how the system is broken after she was the vice president for eight years. Why isn't she telling us about how she fixed the system or fixes she made to the system? No, it's all about bitterness, which also goes to Colbert sitting there.

[Kamala Harris]

Talk about bitter.

[Buck Sexton]

The whole thing was just so sad. It was two losers, Colbert and Kamala, who were given far more than they deserve, having a little cry session together because Trump is president.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah. And I do think the symbolism of Kamala picking Colbert as her first Back to the grind interview. To the extent it's a grind in any way. Colbert, if I, if I were sitting in Colbert's chair, I think the math came out. They did the, the deep dive. He had 120 Democrat guests and I believe it was zero Republican guest sitting in that chair. If you are on CBS like that, I don't begrudge Colbert getting Kamala, but he should be begging for Trump to come on too, right? If that. I don't think a true arbiter trying to appeal to everybody.

[Buck Sexton]

We actually, we don't have time for it now. Maybe if we want to play, we come back. I don't think this again, I only watched the extended but I don't think this part of it aired. You should hear what, what, what Colbert calls the sitting President of the United States on his show that is supposedly for all Americans to watch. I mean you should hear what he said about President Trump so we can play that for you. What he calls Trump on this show and how richly he deserves the cancellation and the humiliation professionally that he has received. But Kamala Harris is the most cringe inducing politician to have been at her level, meaning the vice President that I can remember. And it's, it's just, it's funny to see that she's not the leader of the Democrat party. She may not even have a future. We'll see. We'll see. But she may not have a future in politics and there is no leader of the Democrat party and the Democrats clearly need chalk. I got my chalk daily in my hand right here, my friends. Natural choice for men. This is for men here, but there's also chalk for ladies. Go to choq.com chalk chalk daily. It says boost free and total testosterone. Let me tell you guys, I've been working on my testosterone. I'm telling you the truth. I've been working on my testosterone for the last year getting those numbers up. I just got a blood test a week ago. My T levels boosted up. Feeling better, lost some weight. Feeling better. Chalk and proper supplementation in general, which chalk is critical for, helps so much. These are top quality supplements. Go to chalk.com, the male vitality stack set of supplements is specifically designed for the guys out there to give you that boost in T and general wellness and energy and focus and drive. Testosterone is your body's natural source of energy, guys. You need those levels to be as high as you can have them. Go to chalk.com choq.com that's choq.com get set up like I am get chalk delivered monthly to your house. Use promo code buck again that choq.com chalk promo code buck making America great.

[Kamala Harris]

Again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 puck podcast, Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through the Friday edition of the program taking you into what we hope is going to be a fabulous weekend. We got a couple of different guests coming to you this hour. We're to going going to head to the Senate. Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno about to be with us. And then Mark Wayne Mullen from Oklahoma going to be with us at the bottom of the hour. We'll get into a variety of different topics with them. And Senator Marino is with us now. Let's go ahead and bring him up. One of the reasons that Republicans have a 53 to 47 majority in the Senate is he flipped Ohio's Senate seat. And we're gonna get into a bunch of stuff with you. Senator, congratulations again on the big win back in November. But you have been aggressively following a story that went mega viral, an attack on what appears to be innocent people in the streets of Cincinnati. That has been a, it feels like clarion call for many people all over the country to acknowledge crimes of violence taking place in many of our cities and how they've been allowed to happen. So let's start here for people who do not know this story, kind of tell us a little bit about it and what has happened to what appear to be a man and a woman who were victims of violent mob beatings in the Cincinnati area, what the response has been and where we are. And thank you for joining us and congrats again on your election win in November.

[Bernie Moreno]

Well, thank you very much. Let me just start by saying that Cincinnati is a great American city. Amazing people there, amazing companies. This is a storied city with amazing assets but with obscenely awful political leaders. So let me, let me tell you this story from the perspective of Holly. Holly's a middle aged woman. She's a single mom of a special needs child, lives not too far from downtown Cincinnati. She wanted to have a night out. She hadn't had a night out in a long time. You know, for those people who have special needs children, they know what this is like. It's a all consuming mission of love. So she, she decided she was going to go celebrate a friend of her with a friend of hers, his. His 62nd birthday. She's a little bit younger than that, but not much. They went to downtown Cincinnati. They went to a nice club. There's a jazz fest going on. So they participated in those activities and went out to a place as. As they were walking out the door, a gentleman knocked him in the head, and you saw a brawl that ensued. Now, I say brawl, probably a mob of 50 people attacked this gentleman, knocked him unconscious three times on the ground, dragged him by the foot into the middle of the street. Holly, of course, like any woman watching that, tried to stop the fight, and a complete thug beat her to the edge of her life, knocked her down on the ground, her head fell on the ground, she got knocked unconscious. When she woke up, as she told me the story, all she could think about is just how much blood she saw. I mean, just completely drenched with blood all over her. Finally, towards the end, one police officer came over. The mob scattered. The police didn't do much of a report. The society police, unfortunately, are completely overwhelmed. They're down anywhere between 100 to 300 officers. She went home in an Uber, then go home in an ambulance. Didn't go to the hospital, no police report. Literally got on her phone, called an Uber and went home. Of course, when she got home, realized the severity of her injuries, went to the hospital, and has had suffering from breathing problems, from cognitive issues. Again, this is a lady who's literally. This is attempted murder. There's really no other way to say that she was knocked within an inch of her life. And here's what's most distressing about this. You and I understand trolls online and people online say all kinds of stupid things, but I'm going to talk to you about the leadership of the community, the political leadership. The congressman for that area, Greg Landsman, didn't make any comments about this. Instead was tweeting about why we should send more money to Ukraine. Now, however you may feel about Ukraine when your citizens are viciously attacked like that, I think that takes priority. At least I think it should. The mayor had gone to a mayor's misfit concert, a conference of misfit mayors up in Cleveland, and then went to Canada on vacation, didn't come back until yesterday. This thing happened last Friday night. The vice mayor didn't make a statement until yesterday. And basically her statement was, leave us alone, we don't need any help, we're good here. The chief of police blamed social media. Instead of acknowledging that they're down 100 to 300 officers and said that the whole story wasn't exactly told. I'm not sure what other story you want to know other than you had a middle aged woman that got the crap caped out of her. Then City council member Victoria Parks. Remember that name, Victoria Parks. She went on social media and said they deserved the beating they got. You heard that, right? That this middle aged woman who did nothing other than try to stop a mob from killing her friend and got the life almost taken away from her, got the beating she deserved. The judge Mallory had set the guy who beat her up, he had been in front of that judge a few weeks earlier for all kinds of gun charges, led him off on a $400 bail. This is top to bottom system failure in the Cincinnati political leadership. I've told them they have 30 days to put together a plan to protect the civil rights of their citizens, staff the police properly, and come up with a safety plan for their citizens. And if they don't do that in the next 30 days, the only tool I have is to ask the President, United States to suspend federal funding to that city until they do. Now, of course, the citizens have to do the long term work, which is to get rid of these morons and replace them top to bottom.

[Kamala Harris]

That's an incredible story and I want to make sure our team clips it because I think you illustrated it all so very well. We're talking to Senator Bernie Marino who is discussing what happened in Cincinnati. Holly, you shared her photos. I want everybody to see them. And so I have retweeted it. Let's make sure that the Clay and Buck social feed, they're brutal to look at. But to your point, the fact that a police officer let her get into an Uber and after what happened to her is staggering to me. I am somewhat encouraged. JD Vance has spoken out about this. I believe he lives in Cincinnati. Vivek Ramaswamy aggressively has spoken out about this. I know he's running for governor. You are speaking out aggressively about this. And it sounds like a lot of citizens, including restaurant groups. I saw the local downtown restaurant group, the Ruby Conglomerate. I think they have a great steakhouse. I know they've got one in Nashville. They got them all over the place. But it sounds like citizens are using this viral incident as evidence that they're fed up with what's been allowed to take place in Cincinnati. And I think this is a sort of a larger, a smaller story of Cincinnati. But I think every city in America has a story like this, which is why it's caught so much Fire.

[Bernie Moreno]

Yeah, you're exactly right. I think this is a moment where we say enough is enough. We're not just going to continue to move out in the suburbs of rural America to have law and order. We're going to take back our great American cities. And you see, the Mandami movement, I call it on the other side, which is lawlessness, defunding the police, all kinds of insane communist policies. And I think, honestly, as conservatives, by the way, as just normal Americans, we gotta say, no, I'm sorry, we're not going to relinquish our great American cities to these lawless mobs. And we're going to take our cities back. And for me, that is restoring Cincinnati to greatness. Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo, Dayton, these are cities that have been completely mismanaged for decades. You know, my wife is from near Chicago. She used to love going to Chicago after watching that video. My wife is about Holly's age. If that happened to me and my wife, I can't even imagine what this would feel. If that was your mom, what would you feel like if that happened to her? And then I'll give you one little more wrinkle to the story that's happening as I speak to you right now. The police department, now, they deny that they did. The New York Post says they did. They claim that Holly is a Russian national that fled back to her country because, of course, Russia, Russia, Russia. Holly was born and raised in Ohio, has no ties, she's Germanic background, has no. As are a lot of people there, nothing to do with Russia. But you see how they're trying to disparage her and the mob angry machine on the Democrat side. These are evil, horrible people. And I said to the chief of police, I actually told my team to tell her I have no interest in talking to her until they correct that record. Because the New York Times ran a story, the headline was Russian Woman attacked. It's not a Russian woman. It's an American citizen that was brutally attacked. An innocent person. I was on with another friend of yours earlier and he wanted to start a GoFundMe page. I said, please don't do that without Holly's permission. I called Holly just this morning and she said, I really don't want anybody doing that for me. This is somebody who just wanted. She's what? She's just a normal American, wants to live a good life, and the idea that they even attempt to vilify it. I called Jake Tapper on Sunday as Jake Tapper to cover the story. He said he'd look into it. Silence from cnn. Silence.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, by the way, that's a. You called Jake Tapper to cover this story. Let me tell you, Senator Moreno covering the story, that's. That's a waste of your phone call. I've known for a long time.

[Kamala Harris]

But it is interesting to point out because if you flip the races here in any way, it would be the number one story in America. We'd be having a national conversation about white supremacy and how unsafe it is for black people to go anywhere in this country. And the fact that you got a mom of a special needs kid getting knocked out in the streets of Cincinnati. It does say something that CNN and MSNBC just.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I mean, there was also. There's no. We all saw the video. The woman getting attacked, she's doing. She's just trying to stop somebody from being beaten to death in the street and then punch her in the face is such a vicious and criminal thing to do. Felony criminal thing to do. Where's Governor DeWine on this, Senator Moreno? What's up with him?

[Bernie Moreno]

So the governor has offered. This is even crazier part of the story. So the governor offered the city of Cincinnati, state highway patrols, all kinds of assets, different task forces that he can bear, that bring to bear for Cincinnati. No charge, by the way, saying, look, the state will provide this. We won't charge you a cent. The vice mayor turned it all down and then the mayor overrode her and they took just a piece of it, which is just the troopers doing traffic, routine traffic stops. But this was the mayor's like, we don't need any help. We're good.

[Buck Sexton]

So Governor DeWine wants to help and they don't want the help like they've got.

[Bernie Moreno]

They don't want to help. Great. And what's happened as a result? Two big conventions have been canceled this week in Cincinnati. One, companies leaving downtown. We again, we can't let this happen. We can't let our city cities just be taken over by these lunatics. And by the way, this is about the destruction of America. Let's just be clear about that. This isn't about just Hawley. This is a pattern of destruction of our country, starting with our big cities. And we have to take those cities back. And that's why I'm on this story. That's why we'll be relentless on this story. Because we cannot just turn the other way and say, well, yeah, New York's and so is Chicago and oh, well, no, we're going to take these cities back. Look what President Trump has Done here in Washington D.C. this is becoming a different place because President Trump has said, I'm not putting up with it. This should be a shining city. This is our nation's capital and it's not going to be disgraced by moronic leaders.

[Kamala Harris]

Bernie, you mentioned the disaster. I thought press conference from Cincinnati's sheriff or the person who's in charge in theory of protecting the people of Cincinnati. What in the world are they even saying when she said, oh, we don't have the full context of the video? Buck and I came on and talked about this. I don't know what context you need to see to know that 20 dudes trying to beat up one other guy is, is, is not in any way justified. I mean this is not self defense. This is not it. No matter what happened. Have they even tried to contextualize that and say what she was even attempting to explain? Do we have any idea?

[Bernie Moreno]

Well, what she's trying to do is just brush it all under the carpet. Right? She's not explaining why she didn't get called into an ambulance and taken to a hospital immediately, why there weren't cops on the scene. And the answer is because she has to then admit they're down anywhere between 110 to 300 police officers. And how do you let that happen? How are you a leader of a police department, a police chief in a major American city and you're down 100 or 300 officers? This is insanity. And then to disparage the victim, by the way, there's no context you need for Hawley. Holly's a middle aged woman that almost got murdered by a mob. Totally right. So there's no context needed. That's it. So look, the chief is a mess. We need a top to bottom flushing out of political leaders there. People just care about one. It's very simple. This isn't a complicated thing. When you get elected, your job is to ensure the safety and prosperity of your citizens. That's it. That's all you have to do. And this is the opposite of that. It's sad because look again, Cincinnati is an amazing, great. We have all kinds of incredible assets there with incredible people and they just deserve better. And these leaders just. Can you imagine the mayors in Canada? In Canada, right. Flip the script. And was there any context to George Floyd? Was there any conversations about maybe this or maybe that, when in reality there needed to be a lot more conversation there, but instead that caused their entire country to have our cities burned down. And here it's like, well, it doesn't Fit our narrative. Jake Tapper would become a citizen of Cincinnati. If the races were flipped. He'd be broadcasting there live for 10 years.

[Kamala Harris]

Totally true. Is it a hate crime in your mind based on what you've seen, do you think race played in? We got to go quickly, but I'm just curious.

[Bernie Moreno]

She thinks it did. You know, I wasn't there with her. She feels definitely that it did, that they were 100% targeted. They think it was a setup. That's why they think so many cameras are there. I don't know about that. You know, Kash Patel and Teresa General, Pam Bondi and Harvey Dillon are going to be leading an investigation there. So they're going to answer those questions. All I know is a middle aged woman from Ohio should be able to go to dinner in Cincinnati and not get beaten to death. Very simple.

[Kamala Harris]

Amen.

[Buck Sexton]

Senator Marino, Sanity, thank you so much. Appreciate you calling in. We'll talk to you. And anytime you need someone who's going to talk about important stories and bring some ethics to it, you know, to come to Clay and Buck. Don't go over to CNN, man.

[Bernie Moreno]

Well, by the way, you have 10 times more people that listen to you so that you're.

[Buck Sexton]

Also true. Also true. Welcome anytime, Senator. Thank you so much.

[Bernie Moreno]

Thank you guys.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Kamala Harris]

Stories of freedom, stories of America, inspirational stories that unite us all each day. Spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. You just heard us talking with Senator Bernie Marino about everything going on right now surrounding that awful situation in Cincinnati. I mentioned that we would be talking to another senator. He's joining us now. Mark Wayne Mullen, Senator, appreciate you joining us. I think the last time I saw you was pretty awesome event was the NCAA Wrestling Championships. President Trump was there. It was incredible in Philadelphia. So it was good to meet you in person there. There's a huge back bottleneck right now inside of the Senate, 150 different, some odd nominations being held up. What's the latest there and what should happen in your mind with that bottleneck?

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

Well, yeah, I wanted to talk about that because I just want to point out something. The Democrats always talk about diversity, but I want to talk about the diversity inside the, inside the Republican Congress. I mean, just look at the difference, the way that Bernie and I are built. I mean, Bernie's built like a tech guy and I'm built like an athlete. See, there's a big diversity between the two. I mean, if you know Bernie, I mean, he's a, he's a car salesman and I was a, I was a plumber. But if you also also know that he, he, Bernie could become professional in one sport, by the way, you're not fighting, obviously. He's probably one of the best pickleball players I've ever played against. It's ridiculous.

[Kamala Harris]

What is his strength on, you know, by the way, I played pickleball for the first time ever. My wife Laura got me out there. We had a good time. Yeah. What's his, what's his strength as a pickleball player?

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

He is very precise with his hits and he can get more spin, lift off the ball that I've ever seen. He is, he is a technician when it comes to it and it drives me freaking nice. He will make me run all over a court and he won't move two steps. And it makes me so mad. And the matter you get at pickleball, the worse you get. And that is not my street sport.

[Kamala Harris]

That's really funny.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

So the bottleneck. So dealing with the bottleneck, we have a unique situation going on right now and I just want to throw some numbers out there to you. In Bush 41, 98% of his civilian nominees, which is 99% of the nominees we do, 98% went by either UC, which is unanimous consent, or a voice vote, meaning that the Senate actually never had to take a vote on it, and it speeds the process up. And Obama or Clinton, I'm sorry, 98% of his nominees also went through by voice vote or unanimous consent. Underneath Bush 43, 90% of his went through. 90% of Obama's went through. And then when Trump came in, that's when this first term, that's when the bottleneck happened. And so this time last year or this time in 2017, there was only 55 nominees that Trump had got through. Now, we have already confirmed 121 nominees, but this is the first time in history, in history that a president, United States, has not had one single nominee go by unanimous consent or voice vote. In fact, the only nominee that hasn't been filibustered is Marco Rubio, and that was our very first one. Ever since then, they have literally filibustered every single nominee, which is why we had this bottleneck. But we're still, we still have 121 compared to President Trump's first term, to 55. So Boone has done really good at saying we're going to do this hard way or the law or the easy way. And that's why this Congress has voted more times than any Congress in 300 or the last 35 years, because we're having to take. It takes four votes per nominee to get him confirmed. And that's crazy if you think about that, because we have to vote to go in and out of session, meaning we got to go from legislative session to executive session. We got a vote to invoke culture, we got to invoke to end culture, and then we got to vote on the nominee. So it is a long process. And underneath the current process, it's impossible to do if you do it all in one day. If you take everyone those votes every day, it's almost impossible to do more.

[Stephen Colbert]

Than two a day.

[Buck Sexton]

So what should happen now, Senator? What do you want to see to break the logjam? We've had a few of your colleagues on talking about this. I've been very frustrated by this. I've seen Democrats once again, of course, they're in the break the glass era of anything goes to stop Donald Trump in whatever way they can. As petty as it has to be, they don't care. They're stopping US Attorneys from getting through, they're stopping judges from getting through all good faith out the window. So what do we do? What do you want to see your Republican colleagues do?

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

It only leaves us with really one choice. If they won't allow the login to be broke and start allowing bipartisan nominees, at least those that are come out of committee in a bipartisan vote, we have 55 of those setting right now. If they would at least allow those 55 to come through in a voice vote or a UC unanimous consent, then if they won't allow us at least do that, then we don't have a choice but to change the rules. That's kind of the nuclear option because it goes two ways, right? If you do the nuclear option and then the nuclear option will always stay in place. Harry Reid kind of did this and then Chuck Schumer really did this in 2017, which Mitch McConnell. The irony of that Mitch McConnell actually warned about where we're going to be if that happens. And sure enough, it's exactly what he said in 2017 is where we're at. And that's when they ended the debate on every nominee being 30 hours to two hours. And what you're probably going to see is that we're going to have to take that option even farther to where instead of having four votes where we got to go in and out of executive session, we'll do a day where you just, you stay in executive session all day and you limit debate to maybe 15 minutes or you limit the bait to 10 minutes or you, or you limit are you or that you make the nominees where they're non debatable even at that with the way the rules are in the Senate. You could get done about two an hour if you were to do, if you could get that passed. The problem we have in the Senate is we have some old guards that wanted to want to protect the, the quorum, what they call it, the way the Senate's always operated and they don't want to change it. And so we have some people that.

[Stephen Colbert]

Are very protective of those rules.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

And to get 51 votes on there, I believe we can do that. I wouldn't be surprised if, if JD Vance would have to come up here or vice President would have to come up here and break the tie because I think we'd probably lose some and he would have to come up and break it. However, that's probably going to be our option and that's actually what we're currently talking about as you and I speak. I stepped out of a conference that we're having and this has been a Very structured and passionate meeting that I stepped out of to discuss what our next options are. And I believe the Democrats are going to force this. So it wouldn't be us changing the rules. They have got away from the decorum, the senators and on the Senate side, from the Democrats on the, on the Democrat side, I mean, underneath the leadership of Chuck Schumer, they have got away from the decorum of the Senate, which is going to force the rules change.

[Kamala Harris]

We were just talking about earlier in the show the craziness. You were talking about the difference in the Republican caucus. In the Senate. You got Eric Swalwell posting videos of him bench pressing 135 pounds, which is good. You know, I may be good for my ninth grade son who's trying out for his football team.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

135 pounds.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, man, rough day for Swalwell. Yeah.

[Kamala Harris]

So you understand, like, yeah, hey, if you're a one plate on the bench guy, like, that doesn't really motivate a lot of guys to think, hey, this is a big. This is a dude that I can look up to. But you also have, you know, this Sydney Sweeney thing has taken over all week where you got a pretty girl doing a jeans commercial and Democrats have decided basically that that's just a code word for Nazism. Big picture here. Did you ever think that Democrats would go this insane? And what Buck and I were talking about is privately, are there guys on the Senate floor who are Democrats and they just will say to you privately, like, this whole men and women's sports is just absolutely insane. I mean, they still have to have some dudes, right. Even on the Democrat side who privately will point out that this is just absolute insanity. Or are they like that in private too? I'm not asking you to out guys who say it necessarily, but I'm just kind of curious. In normal guy conversations, do Democrats acknowledge how ridiculous all this is?

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

They, this is, this is, quote, what they say, we have lost. Lost our effing mind. I didn't say the whole word. I said they. They say that. And yes, there is several of the guys and some of the ladies.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, did they just snipe him right as he's giving us. Oh, wait, there we go. So you got cut off there for a sec. You said there's several guys and some of the women that will say privately, this is crazy.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

Yeah, well, they actually say we've lost our ever loving mind or their Epping mind.

[Bernie Moreno]

Yeah.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

And. And they absolutely have. But this, that they can't move. And the reason why they can't move is because they would lose their primary election because their party has went so far that they can, yes, win a primary, but they're going to have a hard time winning the general. That's why you see these polls, if there's a 30 point swing between favorable and unfavorable is because this base, their base has become so woke, so socialist, so anti, everything that makes common sense that they can't move off of it. But that's the base they built. And it started honestly during the 2015, 2016 election. And they, and then, and then they just fed into it for four years underneath President Trump's first term. And they, they wanted the, I mean, I debatable if they want an election. I actually don't say that, but I'm just saying they put Biden office one way or the next. And then during that four years, it destroyed our economy, destroyed morale in the service industry, it destroyed the morale within our men and women in uniform. It destroyed the morale of our, you know, just common sense and any day walk of life. We saw what happened in schools, we saw what happened during school boards. I mean, it just got crazy. And American people woke up and said, we're not doing that anymore. And they put President Trump back in office. They can't get away from that base though. But privately they know it's destroying their party. I think if they had their choice, they would love to go back and to the, the JFK Democrats. But you see what happened to Chuck Schumer. Let's just look at what happened to Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer voted with us to do a continued resolution to keep the, to keep the government open. He got destroyed at home. I mean, here's a guy that's never had a tough reelection and he got destroyed at home. And now AOC is threatened to run against him. His behavior changed so much because now he can't allow AOC to be to his left that now he has to behave just like that, which is causing them to not be reasonable on anything we're doing moving forward.

[Kamala Harris]

Good stuff, Senator. We appreciate the time. Good luck on the pickleball court. Tell Bernie that, that, that we'll challenge him at some point.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

I will never play Bernie Marino in impeccable ever again. Ever. It was the most humbling thing I've ever had done to me in my life.

[Kamala Harris]

Tell your wife congrats, by the way, on being able to out bench the most manly Democrat of all, which is obviously. Yeah, Mr. Fang.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

Yeah, all right. Appreciate it.

[Kamala Harris]

Appreciate that.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

Have a good weekend.

[Kamala Harris]

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[Buck Sexton]

Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?

[Kamala Harris]

Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name is brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

[Kamala Harris]

Smart move to stick with brics. We know what happens when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, that's an understatement. BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

[Kamala Harris]

Now that sounds like the plotline of a movie. I'm listening.

[Buck Sexton]

Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.

[Kamala Harris]

Can he give us some inside intel?

[Buck Sexton]

Absolutely. He's been there since day one. In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the US Dollar in global trade.

[Kamala Harris]

Yikes. That doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip on the line, stat.

[Buck Sexton]

Already did. And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

The world is moving on from the dollar.

[Stephen Colbert]

Quietly but steadily, these nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade, and the US Dollar is no longer the centerpiece.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

That shift doesn't happen overnight, but make.

[Stephen Colbert]

No mistake, it's already begun.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Stephen Colbert]

Thanks for having me back.

[Buck Sexton]

So let's talk. What's the most interesting stuff you're seeing right now? I mean, I've seen some of the numbers, for example, I mean, I was going to just lay it out to you, but actually I want to know about this. The, the, the switch from Democrat to Republican for men. I think the number that I saw was under 40, basically, or maybe it was under 45 over the last two years is stunning stuff. Are those numbers real to you? Is the data good on that and what's going on?

[Stephen Colbert]

So this comes out of Pew Research. Pew Research reported that a party identification for men under the age of 30 had a 44 point swing towards Republicans from Republicans having 36% to 52%. And among women under 30, there was a 14 point swing from women having 30 to 37. Obviously Democrats lost seven in that mix is where you get the 14 from. Now is those numbers real? They're not based off of party registration numbers. Right. So they didn't go to every state that registers people by party. And most states don't register people by party. You just register to vote. But they went through the overall. How do you think of yourself overall? Do you lean Republican and you lean Democrat? Interesting enough, there's a man named David Shore, a very, very smart progressive. Data scientist. David Shor said that in the 2024 election, not only did Donald Trump win young white men and young white women under the age of 20, he won young non white men under the age of 20 and young white men under the age of 20 were the most Republican group of voters in the country. Trump went out 75% of their support. So do I think that it's true? Probably. I mean, there's a lot of data to back that up that young young men especially, but young white men especially are kind of pedal to the metal for the Republican Party. Now, does that mean that they love Trump and everything he's done? No. Trump's favorable numbers among young people is down. It's not, you know, in any, in any situation where it's down like 60 or 70 points, but it has gone down. Remember, when someone's in office, numbers likely go down because you have to make good in all your campaign promises. And Americans are a very fickle bunch. We want things. We want things immediately.

[Kamala Harris]

I would say this because I've got three young boys, 17, 14 and 10 in my household and I'm around their teams that they're on and everything else. Ryan, what I see is most 17 year olds, 16, 14 year olds, they don't have advanced opinions on what tax policy should be or how tariffs should be implemented. But what they do see is a scolding sort of school mom like quality of the Democrat Party constantly wagging their finger at young men. And I think this Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad is representative of that. How much of this do you think is a cultural sort of counter revolution to the woke agenda that so many of these kids have been raised in? Because that's what I see as primarily motivating this response.

[Stephen Colbert]

Well, there's two things that are primarily motivating this response. And I've spoken to a number of data analysts about this and data scientists. One was Covid. Right. Kids who grew up with COVID losing graduation. It really was. I mean, I don't want to sound over, you know, overextended when I say this, but it is true. It was kind of like world. Growing up during World War II or growing up during the war on terror or growing up during Vietnam. It is a defining thing for your generation that will impact your politics, probably.

[Kamala Harris]

Let me cut you off for a moment there because I do think a lot of people have missed this. If you didn't get to go to prom or you didn't get to play your high school football season, and a lot of these kids, they're 16 and suddenly they don't go back to school again till they're 18. That's such a formative, transformative era. I don't think that you're over analyzing that in fact I think it's been under discussed. I just want to kind of emphasize that aspect here because I think it hasn't been talked about enough about culturally.

[Stephen Colbert]

Right. And the other big thing that no one else has talked about that a number of people brought up to me is that older gen zers, right. Their parents are still mo are still like half baby boomers which are now becoming one of the more progressive. Younger baby boomers are far more progressive than older baby boomers are. Most younger gen zers or almost all younger gen zers parents are Gen Xers and they are the most Republican demographic in the country today. So the who is these gen zers parents also plays a significant part in why their politics have shifted. Their politics are more right wing for these kids in part because the parents have changed and the parents are more right wing than the parents that came before. That plays a significant role in why these kids are more younger. I mean listen, if you grew up and you were a baby boomer and you were a younger baby boomer, like let's say you're 60 now and your politics revolved around, I don't know, not protesting the Vietnam War, you might have been too young for that. But you remember it certainly versus if you are a younger baby. If you're a Gen Xer and you grew up watching Jay in Silent Bob Strikes Back and you thought, you know, you were non conformist and you had Johnny Depp posters in your bedroom versus like David Cassidy, that's an entirely different cultural reference point. And a lot of Gen X's are more countercultural in that respect. And they do had a nonconformity and they don't like authoritarianism like the way we saw during COVID Speaking of Ryan.

[Buck Sexton]

Garduski, It's a Numbers Game is his podcast on the Clay and Buck network. So go subs a great time to listen to it this weekend. Go check it out. You'll be really up to speed. Ryan, what else is really top of your radar for the data out there to tell us about how things are trending right now for Trump, the Republicans, the country at large.

[Stephen Colbert]

Right. So there's a new poll out that I find very, very interesting. It's by a Democratic firm, so I'm going to take it with a big grain of salt. But it is a question I have thought about over and over and that is Latinos who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and then Donald Trump and then 2024. This is the group that will affect a number of congressional districts this is the group that, that we are redistricting Texas around, right? So the poll, which once again is a Democratic pollster, and they weren't particularly amazing in, during 2024, but they were like way, way off. So it's called Equus research. They said that only 8% of Latinos who voted for Donald Trump in 2024 plan on voting for the Democrat in 2026. That is not a major defection at all. Specifically among Biden Trump voters. These are what they call the Biden defectors. 30% say they are planning on voting for the Democrat. That is 10 points down from three months ago. That said that when it says 40% would vote for the Democrat. So of those group of people who are new to the Republican Party, who have a long, lifelong history of voting for Democrats, two out of three are not returning home for the Democratic Party. Now, you may say 30% is a huge chunk, but in long trajectories of and long history of when groups of people switch party unification, you're talking ethnic whites in the 60s or Jews or which not or working class people. There's always bumps, ups and downs. They switch, they come back, they go, they come back. But there's a trajectory that you'll pay attention to. If you look at the Latino vote, the working class Latino vote, the fact that 2/3 are sitting there and saying, no, I'm probably either undecided or I'm definitely sticking with the Republican Party, that continues that trajectory going forward. And it's just for the Democrats and say you're not going to wake up and all of a sudden be in 2012 again. These people kind of have come to stay and you're gonna have to either figure out a new coalition or change your policies or your vibes or whatever to bring them back.

[Buck Sexton]

Ryan, some people think that Kamala Harris has a political future. Other people think that Kamala Harris is finished. What do you think?

[Stephen Colbert]

I am more of the side that Kamala Harris is probably finished with politics. I don't think anyone in the Democratic Party that I have spoken to, I know, you know, a few Democratic consultants take her seriously and they didn't. Most did not take her seriously in 2020 when she was picked as the VP and they certainly didn't take her seriously now, no matter how many bitches are in it, she said she had the perfect campaign. The perfect campaign genuinely leaves you in the White House. She's, she's going on Stephen Colbert. It's a much different life.

[Kamala Harris]

On the House for next year. The five Potential additions. In Texas there's lots of talk about a variety of different state moves and everything else. But it seems to me, and you correct me if I'm wrong, that everybody trying to claim oh, only one side gerrymanders is completely wrong. Basically red states are going to do whatever makes sense for red states by and large. Blue states are going to do whatever makes sense for blue states by and large. If you assess the overall map, is one party more or less guilty of gerrymandering than the other? And how much movement do you think might happen before next year when I think most people agree the House is likely to come down to five or six seats, it's going to be a fine line between who controls it.

[Stephen Colbert]

Well, there is one party that overly gerrymanders and that's Democrats. Remember, the Democrats don't have control of many different states as re proportionate. Right. They have control. In 2020 they had control essential of seven states. Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Those are the only seven states they had full control of. In all seven states there are a total of six elected Republicans out of dozens of congressional seats. They gerrymander them to the Republicans. The absolute corners where they couldn't basically get rid of all them, but every chance that they had to get rid of them. Oregon should have easily two Republicans, Nevada two Republicans, New Mexico one Maryland, two. Illinois should have five or six. Massachusetts should have won. They all have none. Now if you look at the Republican districts, Texas, everyone's talking Texas. Texas, you know, so, so gerrymandered. Texas is less gerrymandered than Illinois, than Maryland, than New Jersey, than California, than Oregon, than New Mexico, than all of these states. Right. They are super, super gerrymandered. And where they could knock Republicans off, they did. The problem is Democrats have sat there and changed to commission based redistricting which has to at least look semi fair even when it's not in the case of California and New Jersey and Washington. So Governor Gavin Newsom pouting his chest saying I'm going to fight, you know, I'm going to fight Abbott, I'm going to change these my lines and I'm going to give Democrats six new seats. Is it possible? Sure. So is like a flying pig. It's not really ever going to happen because it would take so many hurdles. It had to do a Constitutional Convention. If they pass 2/3 majority have to go to a vote for the people. Millions of dollars in several years would have to be spent in order for Gavin Newsom to get that same thing. With New York, same thing with New Jersey. These people pouting their chest and pretending like Democrats have been working in such a sanctimonious way to give fair representation are lying to themselves and most of them are lying to the voters about how they're going to fight back. It's basically to sit there and say, I'm going to be the candidate to take on Trump when they run for president in four years.

[Buck Sexton]

Who is the leader of the Democrat Party right now, as far as you can see, Ryan, Because Kamala was asked last night on Colbert and didn't even. She didn't do what I would expect a Democrat to do, which is say, oh, we have so many people and rattle off the first four or five names that come to mind. She said nothing. What do you think?

[Stephen Colbert]

Well, isn't that typical of Kamala Harris to say nothing? I would sit there and say it's probably Bernie Sanders as a right, I think.

[Buck Sexton]

Bernie Sanders.

[Bernie Moreno]

Wow.

[Buck Sexton]

I thought you were going to say Newsom. Bernie Sanders.

[Stephen Colbert]

No, no, it's not even close. Bernie has the highest air ability rating of any elected Democrat. Second is aoc. The progressive wing is, is on the rise. And there's just no, there's no derailing it at this point. And you know, we are, we, they are going to switch the chairs and the deck on the Titanic. The deck chairs on Titanic to try to get more moderates to be elected. They'll move the primaries of South Carolina. They'll do everything they can. But we are just, you know, maybe an election cycle, maybe two away from the Democrats going full Mandani nationwide. And, you know, we're just going to be in a new progressive phase where they go far left on a number of issues.

[Kamala Harris]

Let me, let me make the case and I want to get your reaction quickly here. If I'm advising Kamala, right. I'm not saying that I agree with all of this, all right, Just to be fair. But I look at guys and gals who are likely to run. Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Josh Shapiro, Andy Bashir, JB Pritzker, and all of these so called Mayor Pete, many of them are basically white people, right, that are attempting to persuade college educated white voters that they're the right choice. Like Mayor Pete, for instance, has zero percent support among black people. Meanwhile, you know, if you're a, if you're a college educated woman out there, you love him, right? He is your favorite gay friend. And so, and so if you look on the minority side, right. Cory Booker is a joke, right? I mean, Every time a guy opens his mouth, he looks like crazy eyes from the curb, your enthusiasm. I mean, he just looks like an insane person. I think he has no larger political future. Wesmore is uncertain. Aoc. My point is, if you're looking at the minority black side of the Democrat party, if I'm advising Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams is done. Karen Bass is done. There's almost no one else in that lane. And she doesn't have to be hugely popular. She just has to get that 25%. Am I crazy or who is going to contend with her for that lane if she were to run?

[Stephen Colbert]

Well, the one thing I would say I, I, I understand your presumption, but I just want to put one little context in here, is that the black vote, especially in the south, doesn't always vote for the black candidate. They vote for the candidate they can win. They are much more moderate and pragmatic than I think you're giving them credit for. So I would sit there and say, if you're Kamala Harris and you wanna have a footprint in politics, realizing that your weaknesses as a candidate, I would go and do what Richard Nixon did, former super pac, campaign for the next Democrat, be a kingmaker. And then if they don't win, come on your white horse and give it eight years in the wilderness. She can aff afford that time if she wants to do that. I don't think she even can. But I don't think the presumption is that the black vote is going to only vote for a black candidate. I think that they're going to, they'll be okay with a black candidate being on the ticket, but I don't think that they need a black candidate. Because in the long history from Clinton onwards, remember Clinton ran against Jesse Jackson, I mean, and Obama was the only one that they sat there and said, we have to have it. So I think that they're more pragmatic than that and more moderate.

[Kamala Harris]

Good stuff. Ryan Gardusky, you can find him in the Clay and Buck podcast network. We appreciate the time, my man.

[Stephen Colbert]

Thank you.

[Kamala Harris]

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