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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. I am back from vacation. Clay held it down. We got a lot of big news to talk to you about here. I will say, Clay, some people are saying, Highlands, North Carolina, beautiful place, beautiful place. Big fan. But I had to spend my morning today in preparation for the show watching a doozy of a press conference. I think that's a fair way to describe it, the biggest takeaway from it, although there are many takeaways and we shall describe in some detail for you what's going on here. But the big, biggest single takeaway is that President Trump has decided that he will invoke his section 740 of the Home Rule act power for the District of Columbia, Washington, D.C. which gives the President of the United States the ability to commandeer the Metro Police Department, which is the local police in Washington, D.C. because of an emergency situation. We have the president describing this. Actually, let's just, let's let you hear from President Trump directly on this. It was a, it was quite a moment. This is Cut one play it.
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Donald Trump
Under the authorities vested in me as the President of the United States, I'm officially invoking Section 740 of the District of Columbia Home Rule act, you know what that is, and placing the D.C. metropolitan Police Department under direct federal control. And you'll be meeting the people that will be directly involved with that. Very good people, but they're tough and they know what's happening and they've done it before. In addition, I'm deploying the National Guard to help re establish law order of public safety in Washington, D.C. and they're going to be allowed to do their job properly.
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Buck Sexton
This is a big move from the President. I have to say. I really like this and support this and we'll get into some of the details of this, Clay. But essentially the president is saying enough is enough. D.C. which as we are very honest with You. I am, I am fond of the District, as is Clay. We've both lived there. Clay went to college there. I lived there as a CIA analyst way back in the day, and then later on in life as a media personality for a short while. So we've both spent a lot of time in D.C. the crime situation there is way too high, let's just put it that way, Clay. They're running all these stories now. Oh, crime is the lowest. It is.
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Jim Jordan
Don't we all want there to be.
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Buck Sexton
No crime in our nation's capital? Like, shouldn't this be something where we can get some degree and we'll get into why there isn't bipartisan agreement? There are a number of reasons for this, but there's a whole range, I think, of options and opportunities here to bring the crime level down to Tokyo levels. I mean, that's really what we would like to see instead of, we've had fewer carjackings by 15 year olds, fewer people shot and murdered in the streets of our nation's capital for no reason. How about shooting for none, Clay? How about deciding that we're not going to allow this madness to continue? Because you and I are both familiar with it. D.C. was always more dangerous when I lived there than post New York City, post Giuliani, rather New York City. It wasn't even close. DC Was always a far more rough place to be, starting around the early 2000s.
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Jim Jordan
This is an example of something that Trump is doing that should have 100% approval that Democrats will automatically hate. And I think it's indicative of why the Democrat brand is in the toilet. Because whether you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent, or just somebody who doesn't vote at all, you should want our nation's capital to be safe. No matter what your politics are, you should want big cities in this country to be safe everywhere. And I think Trump sees Washington, D.C. as a jewel of the nation. As we talked about last week, if you look at the rates of murder in D.C. compared to virtually every major city in the world, D.C. is off the charts, unacceptably violent. And you've got Judge Jeanine, who is in position now as the D.C. attorney of Record there. And, and I think what we are basically seeing is Trump wants to fix problems that exist everywhere. And even in that press conference, said, hey, we've solved everything at the border. We are in the process of resolving many different issues associated with trade imbalances and economic issues and everything else. But even in that, in that press conference, which was a tour de force, let's be honest. We went from Joe Biden. Can't even take a question from the press without it being written out in advance on a note card for him to, as you said, buck. Yes, the ostensible purpose of the press conference was to discuss D.C. but Trump took questions on China. He took questions on Putin and Russia and the situation in Ukraine. Basically everything under the sun with no preconceived, to my knowledge, knowledge of where the questions were coming from. And he handled them with aplomb. Right.
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Buck Sexton
We'll address that as well. He talked because, of course, the press asked him about a big thing on the horizon, the planned meeting in Alaska of Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump to try to bring an end to the Ukraine conflict. Trump got into some specifics there. Also some discussion of. Well, Trump's brought up the transports issue. Clay, basically, just to be like you.
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Jim Jordan
Be like you point out how crazy they are.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, just. You guys are nuts. Just to be clear, Democrats, you're nuts. Trump just threw that in. I appreciate that. You know, he had to season the sauce a little bit. You know, he had to spice it up. He's like, hey, by the way, you are the lunatics who think that men should play against women in sports. So not really that into hearing what the Democrats have to say on any particular issue. But he also talked about Nvidia with a deal to sell chips to China. He addressed some of the concerns around that. So to your point, Clay covered a whole range of issues and also makes jokes and is funny and the whole thing. I mean, it was a trumpathon. Ok? It was a Trump bonanza up there. You also had Pete Hegseth in the mix, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General. Judge Jeanine, this is very important. Judge Jeanine is the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. Because there's the police and the prosecution components of this that have to get aligned to. And that's a big deal. We've all seen, I'm sure, Law and Order, right? I mean, I remember waking up hungover in college, and I think I would watch sometimes like six hours of Law and Order in a row on a rainy Saturday. Law and Order is addictive, but it's. It's the. It's the police, you know, the detectives who investigate crimes, and then the prosecutors who handle them. It's actually a good way to think about these issues, Clay. The issue isn't just in D.C. getting to the arrest. And Judge Jeanine made this very clear. It's what happens to the people that do the very bad thing. Once the prosecution is supposed to bring a case against them. And a huge problem they have in D.C. is you have these youths. I think that's how they're generally referred to in the press. People under 18 who are doing very adult crimes. And you know, this, this gets into this area of okay, if you shot somebody and didn't kill them and you're 17, Judge Jeanine says that you can get probation for this. I, this is stunning, right? I mean if you don't murder somebody, rape somebody, you know, forcible rape somebody, there's a few other crimes that she pointed out. You can be 16 or 17 and get essentially, you know, you can be 14 or 15. By the way, what the heck is going on when we have a society that is producing 14 year olds who are trying to carjack people. 14 year olds. This is not that I went unusual.
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Jim Jordan
In D.C. i think it's just there's no dads in homes. I mean, I think you really get down when you have a 14 year old trying to carjack somebody. It's a fundamental failure of parenting because those kids are so young. That should never be happening. And I think it's that we've knocked dads out of so many of these homes. I bet every 14 year old in America almost that is getting arrested for something like carjacking. There is no dad at home. Almost 100%.
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Buck Sexton
Well that's. You're going now to even more upstream or root cause of the problem. And that's obviously true. And the data on this about. And people get very upset about this. But it is just the truth. We're talking data. When we talk data and statistics, I don't really care if people get upset by it. In fact, it's probably a good thing that people hear data and statistics that upsets them because they need to hear it. If they don't already know it or they don't already understand the implications, they need to hear it. Which basically means almost every Democrat that, you know, I will say, Clay, I have, I have a close, close friend who let's just say has been very close to the mayor of D.C. and the interesting thing here is that Mayor Bowser would like crime to go down and would like to do more. What prevents her from doing more politically speaking? I'm not saying that, you know, I'm not absolving her here, you know, but Trump, you'll notice Trump isn't as hard on Bowser as he is on like a Gavin, you know, Gavin Newscomb or you know, the mayor of Chicago. I mean, there are, there are people who are in positions of authority in this country, mayors and police commissioners specifically, and city councils, who are just flatly insane. They're pro crime. They're all Democrats. There are no Republicans who are actively pro crime. There are Democrats who are actively pro crime. And the problem in a place like DC Is that the city council is insane. And there are considerable contingents of the Black community in D.C. that react very angrily and politically to any crackdown by police. So what this does is it creates a situation where President Trump now, by federalizing this issue, could dramatically bring down the crime rate in our nation's capital. I said could, but it is possible. And then you would have Bowser, the mayor, obviously, she's a black woman. She's the mayor of D.C. been mayor for years, is in a sense insulated from the political blowback among some members of the black community for the crackdown that will make all members of the black community and all D.C. residents safer. This is, you know, this goes very deep, but this is the problem. Why is there such pushback? Because Democrats play this game and elected Democrats. A city council plays this game. Clay, people forget this. We can get into a little more of the Home Rule of 1973 act and how, you know, how it affects D.C. congress has ultimate responsibility for D.C. there is. The home rule means that there's the mayor and there's, there is a local jurisdictional situation for. And you know, you can vote for the people in charge of your day to day life in D.C. but the president Trump actually has some specific authorities as the president, especially under an emergency declaration like this. Congress not only can deal with budgets in the district, Congress can override legislation passed by the D.C. city Council. And I would remind everybody that I forget the year, but it was pretty recent where Congress stepped in to override the D.C. city Council, making the punishment for carjacking less. Yeah. Too crazy even for Democrats. So this gives you a sense of what they're dealing with, Clay, in the city of. Well, in our capital city.
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Jim Jordan
Yeah. And here is the data that I think ultimately brings this home. Let me hit you with this as we, as we go into the first break. And I, I would just say open phone lines, by the way. We're gonna talk with Congressman Jim Jordan at the bottom of the hour. He's got some news. We'll discuss what he thinks about whether there should be more control taken over of D.C. among other things. But, Buck, we mentioned this last week. The White House just shared this. I want anyone out there to Defend this regardless of your politics. 800-282-2882. The 2024 murder rate in Washington D.C. was 27.5 per 100,000. Right. Residents. Listen to these other cities that aren't exactly known for being wildly safe. Bogota, Colombia, you heard Trump talking about at 15.1. Mexico City, 10.6. So our murder rate is nearly triple what the Mexico City murder rate is. Listen to some of these.
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Buck Sexton
London's is easy because you can barely measure it. Per 100,000, which is what they usually do. Per hundred thousand homicides is how you get these numbers. London's is one.
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Jim Jordan
Yes, one. But I mean, Islamabad, do we think, hey, this is 9, let's see, 9.2. Lima, Peru, 7.6. Paris, 1.6. You heard Buck mention that, that London is 1, Madrid is under 1. Delhi in India is 1.5. Havana, Cuba is 1.5. Why would anyone. I think this is a sign of how broken Democrat ideas are. We've got a clip, we'll share it for you eventually, of MSNBC coming in, analysts coming on and saying, well, this is evidence of Trump's racism, that he's trying to crack down on crime in Washington D.C. their ideas are broken and they don't want good things to happen if Trump is involved in them because that points out how they were unable to fix that things.
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Buck Sexton
One of the initial points you made, Clay, this is something that everyone reasonably rationally should be behind. Democrats won't. And this is both the right thing to do and the smart thing to do. The right thing to do because it'll mean fewer carjackings, fewer murders, fewer rapes, fewer gang stabbings, which will disproportionately, by the way, mean less of that happening in the black community in DC.
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Jim Jordan
I already gave the stats.
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Buck Sexton
We know what the stats are. Over 90% of those who are incarcerated in the District of Columbia for crimes committed there are black. So it will disproportionately affect members of the black community who are law abiding, who want to be able to go on the metro or go to work or just walk through the park and not be stabbed or attacked. And it's going to be high profile. This is why it's smart. It's going to be something that even the press is going to have to cover. They don't want to, but they will because it is our nation's capital and they live there. Where does the media live? New York and D.C. if this is going on in their backyard, guess what? They're going to have to deal with this. And this can show the failure of Democrat policies on crime and the success of Trump and the Republicans on this issue in a way that will become unavoidable. I think it's a really big deal, a big moment. I'm very pleased to see the president doing it. Let's talk about gold for a second. Gold is the precious metal that people have gone for centuries to find to start their fortune right? Because we all know that gold is valuable. It has been valuable for really all of human civilization. Owning gold is good. It makes sense. And physical gold, the kind you can hold in your hand, is a smart investment. I've been buying gold for over a decade now, and you know you can invest in your 401k or IRA with gold. You can buy a gold IRA or 401k. Thanks to our friends at the Birch Gold Group, in just the last year, gold's value has increased some 43%. That's just data available for anyone to pull and take a look at themselves. 43% in a year. We're waiting for Trump's economy to fully blossom, but there's still a lot of spending and a lot of challenges. Long term, you need to take action for you can't rely on what the federal government's doing, no matter how good this administration is. And they've been pretty fantastic. You have to take action for yourself. That's why Birch Gold is there for you. They make owning physical gold very easy. And they can also convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax shelter. IRA and physical gold so easy. To get started, just do this. Text my name. Buck to 989898 Birch Gold will send you a free info kit. Text buck to 989898 today you ain't imagining it.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio is joining us here. Wants to chat about some of the biggest things happening today in this big beautiful country of ours. Congressman, great to have you on.
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Jim Jordan
Good be with you guys. Hope you had a good weekend.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, it was fantastic. You ever been Congressman to Highlands, North Carolina? I highly recommend.
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Jim Jordan
Yep, yep. Down in that area. My, my good buddy Mark Meadows, former colleague of ours and great congressman, great chief of staff down in that neck of the woods. So yeah, beautiful down there.
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Buck Sexton
I'm like, I'm spreading, I'm spreading the word. So Congressman, let's, let's dive right into this. I watched the whole press conference this morning which was enthralling. Both, both very informative and enthralling. Trump in fuego. But on this issue of crime, you know, you got two guys here, Clay and Buck, who have both lived in D.C. and I feel very passionately about this. That place should be a lot safer than it is. It's go time.
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Jim Jordan
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. And the president is, I think that made the right decision and I think he's going to notify Congress because he can do this for like a month, 30 days. I think is what the law says. And then of course, there has to be a vote. But I think he's going to send, you know, what he, you know, his justification for why this is necessary. And I certainly think it is. What are we, the capitals around the world, we have the highest violent crime rate of just about any, I believe. And of course we know what's happening day to day. We even happened had a, what a member of Congress a while back get their car taken from them. So I think that's justified and then it'll come to Congress. And frankly, I think we should support the president if he thinks this is something that needs to go longer than the 30 days.
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You, Congressman, appreciate you coming on. I just want to hit this because we talk about how crazy this is in general, but whatever Trump does, Democrats line up to oppose. This is the majority leader in the House for the, for the Democrat Party, Hakeem Jeffries just tweeted. Violent Crime in Washington D.C. is at 30 year low. I think that's very disputable. But let's go ahead and accept Donald Trump has no basis to take over the local police department and zero credibility on the issue of law and order. Get lost. I mean, even within the construct of craziness for Trump, Derangement syndrome is being opposed to a lower crime rate in Washington, D.C. staggering to even see Democrats stand up in favor of.
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Now, the left doesn't make sense. I always say not all Democrats are crazy, but the left that controls their party is. And they got all these just wild ideas. And as you point out, Clay, they're just constantly against the president. That Trump Derangement syndrome is truly a real phenomenon, no doubt about it. But, yeah, this, you know, think about all the people who come to our capital as tourists, particularly during the spring and summer, spring month, during, during cherry blossom, when their cherry blossoms are full blown, the number of people who come, they would like to know that their, their capital is safe. And more and more we're hearing about things happening not only to citizens, but the actual members of Congress that are just wrong. So you want a safe capital. You want to, I think everything the President said, you want a beautiful capital, you want a safe capital, you want people to want to come to your capital to celebrate the history of the country in the world. And I think that's all in play here if we have this, this level of crime. So again, I think the president is doing the common sense thing. He says this all the time, that the difference between Republicans and Democrats today, between conservatives and the left is the difference between normal and crazy. And we're the common sense normal party. They're now the party of crazy. Defund the police, let men compete against women in sports. Don't, don't allow violent crime to happen. And on and on it goes. So I think this is just consistent with that common sense theme and a good move.
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Buck Sexton
Speaking of common sense or maybe the lack thereof, Congressman, to the degree that you can speak to this, I'm not asking you to name any of your colleagues in the Congress, but the Democrats, you know, this is something that does affect them because they got to walk around and live in the environs of both Capitol hill and Washington, D.C. capitol Hill. Sketchy stuff happens around there. Really bad stuff happens around there on a far too regular basis. Do they all privately admit that the Capitol's got way too much crime, or have they diluted themselves into it really is at a 30 year low?
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Jim Jordan
Well, I think, I think what happens, Buck, is, I mean, I just think about, you know, the way Polly and I, the way we handle it. We don't go, we don't stray far from the Capitol. And if you do, you're in a car. So it's literally there are days where the most I'm outside is a half a block from the Cannon House Office Building. There's three, you know, three office complex to the Capitol Hill Club, which is a half a block away. Everything else is actually either in the building, in the tunnel over to the Capitol. You're just not outside. So we live in this in somewhat of a, I think, a bubble where we may not feel what so many other citizens are feeling, what tourists are feeling. Now, some people walk a little farther and they're a little farther out on campus. My guess is they're a little nervous, particularly if they, we got late votes, late committee hearings, you're walking home at night. So normally what we'll do is if we got something like that and we're going to go somewhere, we, we're always in a car and we're getting picked up right outside the garage or maybe even in the garage there at the, at the Rayburn office building. So I think we live in a different world. But for the families coming or federal employees who are working there like this, this young man worked for Doge and who was attacked, I think that's a different story. But that's who we're supposed to be serving. That's who we're supposed to be protecting. And that's what President Trump's decision is all about today.
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Yeah, and we had a young intern, I believe, from Illinois, if I'm not mistaken, who was shot and killed on the street. I know it was a big deal on Capitol H. Now, also today, your committee. I just came from the Atlanta Braves. Your committee has sent letters to the heads of the NHL, NFL, Major League Baseball, and the NBA going after blackouts on television. Bucks got brothers who I better frustrated by this. I know I have been supremely frustrated by this, and many sports fans are. It's getting more expensive and harder to watch. What are you working on there?
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Yeah, the whole system now is really complicated for sports fans, and frankly, it's really expensive. If you want to watch your team play their games. You know, some people want to buy the package and watch. But it. This all stems from the 1961 Broadcasting act, which gave an antitrust exemption to. To major sports leagues. We understand that, but we're not in just a broadcast world anymore. We got streaming. We got. We got all kinds of things. Cable, streaming. You name it, we have it. And so we're concerned about how this impacts fans who. I think you tweeted this out, Clay. You want to watch your team play every game. You want to buy a package. It could cost as much as like, a thousand bucks a year to watch. I remember growing up, I could watch the Reds every weekend. Any game you wanted to see the Reds were on Cincinnati or Dayton television, you could watch that. That's not always the case today because of the blackouts and other things that take place. So that's our concern, how expensive it is, how complicated it is. If you want to watch and then, oh, well, you can watch this game. But if you're. You don't live in the market, the actual network market, you're somewhere else. But you still want to watch the team you grew up watching. And they're blacked out in the city you now have because they're not sold out or some other reason. It's like, what is going on? So we just want to talk to these folks, and it's. It's a concern we have with. We've got concerns with college sports. It's a slightly different thing there. We're trying to work on that. Americans love sports. They love to watch their team, their college, their pro team. So we just want to talk with these major league or these professional sports leagues and see what's exactly going on.
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Are you optimistic, by the way, that you're going to get an antitrust bill, pass the SCORE Act, I think it's called, to help regulate what's going to happen with college athletics in particular?
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Well, it's out of the committee and we have a handful of Democrats who had co sponsored it. So I do think we have a real chance to get this done. And as I think we talked a few weeks back, our focus when we started this was we want to maintain real competition, not just have a few teams with all the money always dominate. We want real competition. We want to maintain opportunity. So we're concerned about women's sports and particularly Olympic sports. The USOC has been in to talk to us about the direction college sports are headed if we didn't do something. And we also want to try to remember that this is supposed to be about getting an education as well, because in this current environment, you got people playing seven years with red shirts and Olympic red shirts and different things and making all kinds of money and transferring five times and never getting a degree. So that's what we're trying to do. We think that bill is good. We're hopeful it's going to be on the floor. We get it past the House and then move on. And we think our legislation, frankly is also entirely consistent with the executive order that President Trump put out, who's also very concerned about the Olympic movement, Olympic sports and the fact that we got the Olympics coming here in a few years to the United States.
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Buck Sexton
Congressman Jim Jordan, appreciate you, sir. Thanks for coming by.
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Jim Jordan
You bet, guys, take care. Keep up the good work.
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Buck Sexton
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Jim Jordan
Much to dive into in the next hour we will jump into Trump a lot of answers of questions relating to the big meeting scheduled in Alaska with Putin surrounding the Ukraine Russia war. But last week we talked a lot about the redistricting battle going on surrounding Texas. And we talked about, look, whatever your ideas are on this, the idea that of all the places the Texan lawmakers could have fled to, they went to Illinois, which is one of the most gerrymandered states in the entire country. Maybe JB Pritzker was paying for all their hotel rooms and everything else, but even left wing media were not able to overlook how hypocritical that was. And so JB Pritzker went on Meet the Press to try to make the argument that this was unacceptable. And we've got a couple of different cuts here of Meet the Press. I referred to this, I think, on social media, Buck, as the equivalent of of the Russian judge disqualifying the Russian skater. You've got the whole rig job in your favor and you still get absolutely lambasted like this. Here is cut 11 JB Pritzer Pritzker getting challenged on Meet the Press.
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Kristen Welker
Every major group that grades the fairness of congressional maps gives your state an F common cause. A nonpartisan government watchdog even says your map, and I'm going to quote, represents a nearly perfect model for everything that can go wrong with redistricting. We talk about preserving democracy. How do you preserve democracy if you're using the same tactics that you've criticized Texas Republicans for?
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J.B. Pritzker
What they're talking about is a distraction. The reality is that the violation of people's voting rights is What Texas is attempting to do, that's what's wrong with their efforts right now. And the fact that, that the President of the United States knows it and nevertheless is asking them to do it. That is what's wrong with what we're seeing right now. Democracy is at stake.
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Buck Sexton
This is. This is him. Yeah. This is him thinking I can just talking points steamroll the fact that my argument is trash. The argument that is being made by Democrats on this, especially people like Pritzker who are coming from a state like Illinois, is garbage. All they're saying is, I don't like when they do what I do. When they do it, it's bad. When I do it, it's good. That is the sum total of their argument. To be clear, there's nothing beyond that. It's. Republicans are icky, they're bad, I'm good, so I get to do the things that they do. And you're supposed to like it when I do it and not like it. I mean, this is. This is like arguing with toddlers. They have nothing beyond that. Notice he didn't even engage with what she said. You don't have to know anything about gerrymandering. If you look at a map of congressional districts in Illinois, you'd say to yourself, the heck is that?
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Jim Jordan
Yeah, it's bizarre. And she followed up. But. But I do think this is important, what you just said. And I think the media is getting a little bit embarrassed. Even as shameless as they are, they're starting to recognize that Texas is just catching up and doing what California and Illinois and New York already did. In other words, the redistricting in Texas is just lagging behind. And we had Greg Abbott on last week essentially in many ways making that argument. But Buck, to her credit, Kristen Welker followed up after that non answer from J.B. pritzker and said, wait a minute. President Trump, as we told you on this program, won 44% of the vote in 2024. It was. Look, Texas and Florida were actually not as competitive as Illinois was. I believe if you look at the raw numbers, Illinois, which is a deep blue state, Trump got almost 45% of the vote. Listen to cut 12.
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Kristen Welker
I do want to look at the map of Illinois. Let's take a look at this. Despite President Trump winning 44% of the statewide vote in 2024, Republicans hold only 3 of Illinois, 17 districts. These districts seem to be designed to maximize Democratic advantage. What do you say to those who argue that it's hypocritical for you to Criticize Texas for partisanship when your state also drew maps to boost your party's standing.
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J.B. Pritzker
Well, remember that what Texas is trying to do is again, violate the Voting Rights Act. You talked about how rare it is to do what he's doing. Yes, it is. What's even rarer is to do it at the behest of the President of the United States, who's clearly attempting to and says that he deserves to have five more seats.
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Buck Sexton
He's wrong. I mean, it's a non argument. He doesn't even make an argument.
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Jim Jordan
I just look at so many of these political figures, and there are Republicans in this camp, too. They're just not serious, intellectual, intelligent individuals who should be representing us. I mean, J.B. pritzker is supposed to be one of the forerunner favorites for Democrats in 2028. He's been elected multiple times, I believe, already in Illinois. His daddy's a billionaire, and so he's a billionaire. He's not an impressive person. And, and to go on knowing that these questions are coming. First of all, if I were advising J.B. pritzker, I would have said, hey, moron, we shouldn't be the place that is hosting all these Texas Democrats. I know you want to get your face on television, but you're just going to expose our hypocrisy. And when Kristen Welker is, is pointing it out, Kirsten Welker, whatever her first name is, is pointing it out on Meet the Press, you know that you've really engaged in hypocritical behavior.
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Buck Sexton
This is, this is where you're getting to the, we've been to the border level. When, when you have journalists who are friendly journalists and I, you know, journals, we can all, it's obviously in quotes. But, but when they won't go along because your argument is so dumb that it will make them look dumb, too. That's the line here that Pritzker is crossing. Same thing you saw with Lester Hold. And he's like, look, Kamala, I like you. You know, I'm proud. Although Lester hold maybe is a little bit actually of a centrist, but whatever, put that aside. I don't know. But clearly he liked Kamala Harris. But he's not going to sit there while she says, we've been to the border. And he's not going to, you know, clap for that and pretend like that's normal. Of course not. Right. That he's not going to look like a moron on her behalf. And even Welker, I think here is like, look, buddy, you guys do what they do. So you got to explain this, because I don't want to sit here and look dumb. I'll be partisan, but I don't want to look like I don't have a enough brain power to understand the argument. So I'm going to have to ask you this question. And Pritzker's answers are absurd. I mean, this is a guy who bought the governorship of a very blue state and there's nothing impressive about him. I mean, Pritzker, Heavy P, needs to figure out better answers to questions like this.
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Jim Jordan
MVP is a great nickname, except he might use it in a positive context. I just, I do think that what you're seeing here is Trump is delivering a masterclass. Time after time, Democrats try to argue and they get embarrassed. And now we'll talk here in a minute about the pivot that's going to happen with the big conversation going on in Alaska on Friday. And just as they are calling Trump racist because he's trying to decrease the amount of violent crime that's taking place in D.C. i guarantee you, no matter what happens on Friday, they're going to say, oh, Trump is Putin's stooge. They're going to try with the whole Russia collusion argument again. The problem for them, I think, is Democrats have reached the boy who cries wolf scenario. We saw it in 2024. I thought they would learn from it in the first 200 days of Trump. They have not. They've continued with the same arguments and they're failing. Time after time. We'll get to some of your talkbacks. By the way, close out the hour. We'll dive into the Ukraine and Russia situation. Top of our three and more all coming your way. But some of you may be aware football is basically back. Preseason football is underway and that means that Bucks favorite player George Pickles has taken the field again. A new and we're going to be giving you I'll start maybe on Thursday of this week, picks for the NFL and for college football. As all of this is starting to roll back into the season and that means it's fun for prize picks. We're going to try to win. Really easy to use. I give you a pick. We hope to hit a 5 to 1, 10 to 1. All we have to do is pick more or less on player achievement. I put them out there for you and we are ready to roll. It is super easy to use. You can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play in Georgia, you can play in Buck, where Buck is in Florida. Where I am in Tennessee. Thirteen million of you signed up. You get fifty bucks when you play five dollars. All you have to do is go to prizepix.com code clay that's prizepix.com Code clay fifty dollars instantly when you play five dollars. If you love football, and I know a lot of you do, football season is back. You can still stay. Major League Baseball, NBA, NHL, tennis, golf, whatever sport you like is out there. Nascar. But get hooked up. Right now we're going to be giving you picks. And football. That's prizepix.com code clay prizepix.com code Clay.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, have you heard of the Rio reset?
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Jim Jordan
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.
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Buck Sexton
It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name is brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
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Jim Jordan
Smart move to stick with brics. We know what happens when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's an understatement. BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
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Jim Jordan
Now that sounds like the plotline of a movie I'm listening to.
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Buck Sexton
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.
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Jim Jordan
Can he give us some inside intel?
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Buck Sexton
Absolutely. He's been there since day one. In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
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Jim Jordan
Yikes. That doesn't sound good. We gotta get Philip on the line, stat.
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Buck Sexton
Already did. And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message. The world is moving on from the dollar. Quietly but steadily, these nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade. And the US Dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun. Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your Savings account, your 401k, your IRA, all of them, by purchasing gold and placing it into those accounts and reducing your exposure to a declining dollar value. Text my name, Buck, to 9898. 98. You get the free information you'll need to make the right decision. You can rely on Birch Gold Group, as I do, to give you the information you need to make an informed decision. One more time, text my name, Buck, to 98. 98. 98. All right, here we go. Clay and Buck continuing on our conversation of the most important things going on today across this great land of ours and around the world. As we said, Trump meeting on Friday with Putin. He's going to sit down with him and try to hammer out some kind of a deal. He says there'll be land swaps. I watched the whole press conference this morning and it was, like I said, both very informative and very entertaining. That's one thing about Trump. This is just a quick aside. One thing about Trump that when he's no longer president, I think everybody, everybody will miss. Politics is never going to be as, as at that level, as amusing and engaging as it has been for us in the Trump era. Like, you're just not going to have somebody, I think, very unlikely you're going to have anybody who, I mean, Trump is just such a phenomenon when it comes to just the things he says and the way he says it and how he presents. You know, I remember even during, excuse me, I remember during the Obama years having to watch press conferences. So boring, so boring. Remember watching Jay Carney, everybody watching smarmy Jay Carney up there. This is what the President thinks. It's like, it was so boring. It was like. That felt like a job. Watching a Trump press conference is entertainment. It's not really a job. It's like I'm getting paid to watch soap opera or something.
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Jim Jordan
I just want, I mean, to reiterate that. Enjoy it, because I don't know, not only just in terms of sheer enjoyment, but also just in terms of trying to fix everything that's wrong at once, which Trump is uniquely focused on. Most politicians are obsessed with trying to get reelected. Trump is obviously, I know he's saying, hey, I'd like to run again. And by the way, I think a lot of people would like to vote for him again. His term is going to end in January of 29. And this is what I've said on the show for some time, and some of you immediately respond and tell me I'm crazy, but I think you actually agree with this take. As soon as the midterms are over, Democrats are going to pivot from Trump is Hitler to Republicans are never going to have a politician as good as Trump. He's a one in one in a million. They're never going to. The MAGA base is not going to follow the new guy. He's a once in a lifetime president. Watch how quickly that pivot happens from he's Hitler, democracy is over to. You guys are never going to have anybody this good. And it's going to make your head spin how quickly it happens. But as soon as the midterms are over, boom, we're on to the next race.
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Buck Sexton
You know, I was, I told everybody that I was in, I was in Highlands, North Carolina. Not to be confused with the Highlands of Scotland, Highland, North Carolina. Highlands, North Carolina. Loved it. You know what's funny though, is we flew into Asheville you know what? I was unable to attend, unfortunately, Clay, there was a big Bernie Sanders rally in Asheville. Now, I can't throw too much shade at Asheville because despite the fact that it is a place of a lot of leftism, it's very beautiful area, but a lot of leftism. A lot of people walking around as well, with purple hair, nose rings and a tremendous amount of indecipherable tattoos. I'm just saying, this is what I observed, man. Do they have good brunch, food and coffee shops? I got to say, I don't know what it is. Something about anarchists who look like they haven't talked to their parents in a very long time and have a lot of piercings and, and whatever. The gauge, I think it's called a gauge when you have the big round thing in your ear. Right? Man, they make a good latte. I don't know what to say, you know, I'm a coffee guy, as we all know. They make a good latte. But Bernie did a rally there and I just think it's. This is the guy. He is still the guy. For Democrats, the biggest draw on the stump is Bernie Sanders. Here he is on the. Do you want to. Here he is on the gerrymanning. This is 14. This is Bernie Sanders weighing in, laying into it. Play it. You think Democratic governors should try to push back?
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Bernie Sanders
I think it's safe.
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Bernie Sanders
Well, I think they have no choice. I mean, what Trump is trying to do, he understands that there is a good chance that Republicans will lose control over the House. I would hope the Senate as well. That'll be a tougher fight. So he's trying to make, you know, in his authoritarian way say, hey, I don't want to lose elections. Let's rig the system, give me five more votes in Texas, maybe some other states. So what should Democrats do? Sit back and say, oh gee, Trump is doing is terrible. We can't do anything. Let them win the election when they shouldn't. So Democrats have got to fight back. I think it's pathetic, but I think that's what they've got to do.
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Buck Sexton
What is pathetic? First of all, it's the Texas state legislature that's going to do the redistricting, not Trump. It's just funny, like Trump is behind every scary thing. Trump is hiding under Democrats beds now. Every bad thing that they don't like, Trump is behind.
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Jim Jordan
Yeah. And also, let me give credit, and this is probably going to shock people. It doesn't surprise me that Bernie has an AUDIENCE Because I think he's wrong about everything, but he has a coherent worldview. What is the world like, what you understand, for better or worse? Bernie is a socialist and he thinks that things are broken in America. And I go back to a lot of you will remember this in the 2015 early 2016 New Hampshire primary, for instance. I guarantee you listening to us right now are some died in the wool Trump people who when they were going to vote, they were going to vote trying to decide between Bernie and Trump in 2016 because they were the most disruptive candidates out there, both the Republican side and the Democrat side. And for people out there who feel like things are broken, what Bernie offers, I think it makes things worse, but it is a coherent worldview. What does the Democrat Party stand for outside of socialism and outside of Bernie? And I would argue that somewhat this is what is appealing to individuals about Mamdani. What does Hakeem Jeffries represent? What does Chuck Schumer represent? I don't really think they have a coherent philosophical, philosophical worldview that responds to people.
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Buck Sexton
I think the central ethos of the Democrat Party up up to this moment and stretching back now for really a couple of decades has been race politics or race communism. I really believe this, that that's, that's the there's other things, you know, there's gender communism or whatever you want to call it to there's these other things as well where they take this collectivist and anti traditionalist, anti God, anti morality point of view. There's a lot of things you could But I think that if you're looking for the one thing that you've had to be willing to go along with more than any other for 20 years in the Democrat Party, it is race communism. It is the race politics, identity politics, identity politics. It's all the, you know, I prefer race communism because I want to be very clear that I think it should be completely disparaged and dismissed. And what's so critical of what Trump or so important about what Trump is doing is he's going right at that. The Supreme Court has too, I might add, which gets ignored by a lot of people. All this race communism stuff is illegal that these places are still doing. They're not actually supposed to do this. If the Constitution matters, then Supreme Court matters to Democrats. And what we see across the board is these universities playing games, people still playing games with hiring HR departments, still trying to, you know, get away with this stuff. But that is has been the central unifying characteristic of the Democrat party for 24 I would, you know, 20 years is kind of just a rough estimate of it, because more so than class. It used to be class warfare. Early 2000, I think it was more class warfare stuff.
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Jim Jordan
Yeah, that's right.
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Buck Sexton
And now, especially going into 2008 era with the Wall street meltdown, but now it really has turned into race politics and Trump is breaking that. And that's why I think the Democrats are in such disarray, because the race coalition of the Democrats is being shattered. When you see things like, hold on a second, a majority of black and a majority of Latino voters, for example, agree with Trump on deportations. Well, you know, the, oh, it's so racist stuff doesn't work the same way that it used to be.
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Jim Jordan
I also think, and this ties in with what we started the show with, what did black voters get from blm? Nothing. In fact, worse than nothing.
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Buck Sexton
Nothing but downside.
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Jim Jordan
Yeah, yeah, everything got worse from blm. And I think a lot of black voters are looking around now and saying, boy, we spray painted a street Black matter, Black Lives Matter Plaza. But thousands of black kids got killed because we said cops shouldn't be able to do the job. And now I think you're going to see, I think a lot of black voters are going to say, yeah, I kind of support Trump calling in more security and more individuals to stop violent, violent crime from happening. And the Democrat perspective of violent crime isn't that bad. Do you think that a mom in St. Louis or inner city Memphis or Washington, D.C. or Philadelphia, do you think she's looking around saying, you know what, Democrats are right, crime's not that bad, we don't need more here. Or do you think for her son and daughter, do you think she wants more security on the streets? I think most black moms and dads want more security on the streets because they're not unfortunate, unfortunately, they're aware of the people committing the crimes, unfortunately.
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Buck Sexton
I think, to take your example, though, a lot of people are told that the problems, especially the problems of poverty and problems of crime and everything, that this is all caused by racism. And the belief that the Democrats have instilled in black, white, Asian, Hispanic, you name it. The belief the Democrats have instilled in their true believers is that the problems of crime in major American cities are all attributable to racism of the other, that that's actually the problem. And that's certainly the case with how they approach police. It's certainly the case with how they approach who they're going to vote for. They're going to Vote for the people who are going to continue to tell them, hey, it's racism that causes all these problems, and if you put me in power, I will attack your racist enemies and I will protect you. And unfortunately, that just results in more of what we see, which is the. The degradation of these urban centers, in particular, high crime, fatherlessness, poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, go down the whole list.
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Jim Jordan
I think, though, that it is increasingly not resonating. And I think BLM actually exposed it because that was them saying, hey, we're going to speak out for black lives. And thousands of innocent black people ended up dead because cops weren't able to work and play.
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Buck Sexton
The only people who know that data listen to shows like this. That's the problem.
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Jim Jordan
But I think.
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Buck Sexton
Do you think they talk about this on shows where the audience is overwhelmingly urban? Do you think they talk about this on.
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Jim Jordan
It's a great.
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Buck Sexton
God, give people that stat. They do not. They will not tell people that the D.C. murder rate in 2023 into 2024 when was one of the highest in history of that city.
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Jim Jordan
But I think they feel that they're being lied to. And I hope. I mean, look, think about this. In 2024, and I know it's green shoots. I mean, it's just starting over. One in every five black guys voted Trump. One in every five. Now, I think it should have been three in every five, right? Because men overwhelmingly voted Trump. But one out of every five is a big difference. That means, you know, a group of five guys on average that voted, one of them was a Trump guy. For black voters, that's transformative because that one guy, and I know a bunch of you are listening to us right now in that one, that, that, that guy, that black guy out there who voted Trump. You're now with your buddies, sitting around talking, and you can share those stats, because when it's 1 in 10 or it's 1 in 20, it's hard to be the guy that broaches that topic. I think when it gets to 1 in 5 in. In the same way you sit around and talk about sports, the conversation is a more natural one. And I think every day more people are like, wait a minute, we're being sold a bill of goods. I'm optimistic on the direction this is going. Could it be going faster? Yes.
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Buck Sexton
And.
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Jim Jordan
But I really think it's happening.
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Buck Sexton
Clay is once again the optimistic one here. I'm Eeyore sitting here telling you be grumpy about this because it's not happening fast. People are not Realizing the truth nearly fast enough on this.
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Jim Jordan
I just. I just know. Buck, let me give you an example. I was in Atlanta for the All Star Game. I don't think I mentioned this on the. On the audio. I was, you know, they had a lot of large security presence for the All Star Game, right? So I'm staying next door to the All Star Game. Three different black cops on my walk from the exit of my hotel to the stadium area stopped me, said, hey, I'm hearing what you're saying. Thanks for having our back in Atlanta. Three different black cops. As I was just walk. I mean, I'm telling you, that conversation, I am super optimistic is happening in a real way. Well, that he was.
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Buck Sexton
That doesn't surprise me. People who, you know, you're talking about cops. We have cops back. We have the back of black law enforcement. We have the back of black people who want to live in peace and security in their own neighborhoods, in their own communities. But it's just tough to get that word out because people are still just. Honestly, they're just lying about this stuff. Like I said, I would debate. I'll put it out there now, but not that this stuff really, I'll debate anybody in the country on D.C. crime from the left. Anybody, right? There's not a single person in the country that I wouldn't be willing to go up who's worth the time because they would get smoked. And I'm totally confident in that.
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Jim Jordan
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Buck Sexton
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