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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox One, we live for live streaming now. Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?
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Clay Travis
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.
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Buck Sexton
It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name is brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
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Clay Travis
Smart move to stick with brics. We know what happens when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's an understatement. BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
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Clay Travis
Now that sounds like the plotline of a movie. I'm listening.
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Buck Sexton
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.
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Clay Travis
Can he give us some inside intel?
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Buck Sexton
Absolutely. He's been there since day one. In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
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Clay Travis
Yikes. That doesn't sound good. We gotta get Philip on the line, Stat.
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Buck Sexton
Already did. And he left the Clay and Buck audience. This mess. The world is moving on from the dollar. Quietly but steadily, these nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade. And the US Dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That shift doesn't happen overnight. But make no mistake, it's already begun. Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your Savings account, your 401k, your IRA, all of them, by purchasing gold and placing it into those accounts and reducing your exposure to a declining dollar value. Text my name. Buck to 98. 98. 98. You get the free information you'll need to make the right decision. You can rely on Birch Gold Group, as I do, to give you the information you need to make an informed decision. One more time, Text my name. Buck to 98. 98. 98.
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Clay Travis
Welcome in Tuesday Edition. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling into the show today. Our friend Congressman Chip Roy from Texas will be on in the second hour. He is running for Attorney General of the State of Texas. And by the way, that Primary is in March. So I know we've got the New York City mayor's race, we've got the election going on in Virginia and in New Jersey. Buck, do you remember for the first several years we did this show, everything was basically a loss, except we got the win in Virginia, like in that first year, and that then we had to kind of feed off that for a long time.
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Buck Sexton
Youngkin gave us, gave us some hope, some prayer for the future. And then the midterms, it was. It was Governor Ron in Florida, credit where it's due, massive.
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Clay Travis
And we did win. We did win the House of Representatives back, but it was still a tough. There was a lot of tough situations. I feel like every day we wake up now, there's celebratory spirit as there should be across the country for most of the decisions that are being made. But in the first several years that we were together, there were not a lot of victories to celebrate. So I do think as we get ready for the Virginia, New Jersey election, New York City mayor, and then obviously as we move into next year, the Texas primary is going to be a major, major event In March of 2026, as I know many of you in Texas are aware. But as the state of Texas is football mad, frankly almost unlike any other state in America with high school, college and pro. This going to be hard to cut through the noise in Texas in September, October, November, December, if the Cowboys actually win, sorry, Cowboy fans, even January 2nd, when the playoffs happen. And as a result, that primary, you're going to look up from the holidays and it's going to be right on top of you. So that is underway. We will talk with Chip Roy, who is running for Attorney General there. Uh, I would say it is a huge event. We will be covering quite a lot as we move closer to that. But President Trump, I believe, about to have his seventh public cabinet meeting. Remember, Joe Biden didn't have a Cabinet meeting and everybody just forgot and didn't pay very much attention to it for basically the final two years of his term in office. There were no meetings as they were hiding him. Trump had three different public events yesterday, Buck. He basically had rolling press conferences for hours. I bet he'll be talking for hours today.
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Buck Sexton
I'm. I'm just going to try to give credit where it's due here, Clay, because we always like to call balls and strikes, as, you know, hiding Biden was the right move. Yeah, this is. We can talk about how, like depraved and craven and everything it is, but hiding Biden was actually a pretty sound strategy, and I'm. I'm going to go even further. I think hiding Kamala probably would have been a better move for them. I know that they had maybe got too loud for her to appear in public, but it's better to have MSNBC pretend that you know who these people are than to actually see what they say when they don't have a script or a teleprompter in front of them.
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Clay Travis
Remember, they didn't actually do an interview with Kamala Harris for a month. And then when they finally did one, I think it was with Dana Bash, if I remember correctly, on cnn. And Tim Walls was there with her. Uh, so they waited until, I mean, late August, if I remember correctly, before they even let her talk to anybody, which raised expectations. Unfortunately, even with that going on, she couldn't meet them. But I do think there is a story that is becoming pretty intriguing, and it is Joe Scarborough probably, and potentially still smarting from the public humiliation that he suffered because he said that Joe Biden 2024 was just as good of a Biden as he had ever seen. In fact, the best version of Biden. And after the June 27th debate, I think Joe Scarborough was embarrassed on a level that it's hard to be embarrassed in public prognostication. And I think he has decided a bit to go to war with the die hard NBC View MSNBC viewing audience. Remember, he and Mika initially were very favorable with Trump. Then that relationship turned negative. Then they went and kissed the ring after Trump won reelection, which led many of the people in the MSNBC audience to be furious. The MSNBC audience has not been galvanized this time by the Trump administration. In fact, audience ratings have continued to be weak and to frankly collapse. And maybe that has emboldened Joe Scarborough to actually start being a journalist. Because, Buck, you shared this this morning. I went and watched and I got to give Joe Scarborough credit. He had on Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. And let's set the table here. I think brilliantly, in the summer months here, Trump has changed the agenda from, from basically tariffs and worrying about the economy because we're at record stock market highs. And he has said we're going to go to war with violent crime. And D.C. was the first place that he decided to bring out the National Guard. I believe we are now, and correct me if I'm wrong, team, I think we're at either day 12 or day 13 without a murder in D.C. overall, crime rates have fallen precipitously in. And now Trump is talking about bringing the National Guard to Chicago and Baltimore and other American cities that he believes have far too high of a crime rate. And Joe Scarborough asked Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson this morning on MSNBC a very simple question. Would having more police officers make the city of Chicago safer? And I want to play. I'm going to call for each of these in succession. I want to play you, the mayor of Chicago, refusing to answer if more police officers would make the city safer. Here is part one.
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Joe Scarborough
Would you also like to get federal funding to help put 5,000 more cops on the street in Chicago? Would that help drive down crime?
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Brandon Johnson
Well, look, policing by itself is not the full strategy.
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Joe Scarborough
I understand you talked about the other things you want, and I said those are good and important programs. But I'm asking also, would 5,000 more police officers on the street in Chicago be helpful to go along with all of those social programs that a lot of cities are engaging in and having success with?
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Brandon Johnson
Look, here's the best way I can put it, Joe, is that in the 90s, when I was in high school, we had 3,000 more police officers and we had 900 people being murdered every single year in Chicago. It's just not policing alone.
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Clay Travis
Okay, this continues. Can I just reel, you know, because.
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Buck Sexton
The way we set this up is would more cops be helpful? Joe Scarborough is actually conceding as part of his questioning here, he says, if we give you all the money you want for your violence Interrupters, for your, your, you know, community organizers, for your, all these, by the way, things that do absolutely nothing, I know you'll find some radicals will say, oh, my gosh, the history of violence Interrupters. Please, give me a break. Okay, Social workers, he says, with all that, would you also want more cops? And now, Clay, you could continue to work through that. It's astonishing. This guy, the mayor of Chicago.
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Clay Travis
Here is part two. Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson. He of the recent 6% approval rating, asked again, yes or no, would 5,000 cops help MSNBC this morning.
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Brandon Johnson
Of course we want more detectives.
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Joe Scarborough
I know it's not policing alone. I know it's not policing alone. You've told me everything else you want. I'm curious. And this, this come down to an ideological difference between people. Do you believe that the streets of Chicago would be safer if there were more uniformed police officers on the streets of Chicago?
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Brandon Johnson
I believe the city of Chicago, in cities across America, would be safer if we actually had, you know, affordable housing.
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Joe Scarborough
Look, that's not the question I asked. My question is, and I just need a yes or a no. Do you believe the streets of Chicago would be safer if you got all of those other extraordinary programs put back into place, which do have a history of being successful? If that's. If that's complemented by having 5,000 more cops on the streets of Chicago, I.
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Brandon Johnson
Don'T believe that we should narrow it down to just police officers. What I'm saying, that is an antiquated approach.
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Congressman Chip Roy
Okay.
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Clay Travis
It continues, Buck. And I just think I got to give Scotch Joe Scarborough credit. He sounds a bit like me back in the day with Mike Pence, when you just can't get an answer from a question that you think is actually an important one. Here is more. Brandon Johnson, mayor of Chicago, having his feet held to the fire on a simple question. Hey, would more cops help cut three?
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Congressman Chip Roy
I'm saying we've invested in detention.
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Joe Scarborough
You're hearing what I'm saying. I'm agreeing with you. That all of these other social programs are extraordinarily important. I just need a yes or a no. And then be the last time I asked if you get all of those other social programs that.
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Clay Travis
That.
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Joe Scarborough
That 800 million that. That New York City does, Los Angeles, other people do with great success. Would an additional 5,000 cops on the streets in Chicago help complement those programs to make Chicago safer?
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Brandon Johnson
Look, we are working hard to make sure that our police department is fully supported. I don't believe that that just simply putting out an arbitrary number around police officers is the answer. What I'm saying is policing. And affordable housing is policing. And mental and behavioral healthcare services is policing and youth employment.
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Clay Travis
Okay, Clay, this is important.
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Buck Sexton
I think Joe Scarborough is basically begging this guy. Yes, begging. He's like, hey, moron, I'll give you everything else you want. We'll pretend all these programs that don't do a darn thing in any of these places that anyone can measure will also be in place here. But can you just say more cops would help with the crime problem. Could you please just say it? He won't say it. The mayor of Chicago. And it's because the mayor of Chicago is anti cop. He's anti law enforcement. He thinks cops are the problem. He thinks that crime in the south and west sides of Chicago, where there are a lot of homicides even for an American city, a lot of homicides going on. He thinks that the issue is mass incarceration and over policing play. That's the bottom line. And he won't change his mind.
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Clay Travis
Yes. And I think this is brilliant of Trump. I just think it is absolutely brilliant. And I Am staggered at the stupidity of Democrats responding to this. Trump is trying to lower violent crime. In so doing, he is going to save more black lives by far than anyone who marched in BLM protests and argued for defunding the police ever did. In fact, that cost black lives. And most of you out there, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight, male, female, all of you say, yeah, more cops would help. Why can Democrats not say it? Because the base of the Democrat Party still believes that police are the problem. They believe a lie. And I think this is why Trump has cut through the noise and the results here. You know, we sometimes talk buck and I think it's important that there are two tracks on everything. Is it politically smart and does it actually make the country better? Sometimes those don't overlap. Here they do. It's both politically smart and the country is better if we lower the overall rate of violent crime. And Trump has cut through the noise. And right now the debate we're having in the summer of his first term is should we have more police? And is Trump trying to lower violent crime too aggressively? It's brilliant. I just, I got to give him credit for it. It is absolutely brilliant.
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Buck Sexton
And we're going to have more for you, by the way, because right now, just a couple minutes ago, Trump started a cabinet meeting and you know what that means. It's a Trumpathon, everybody. He's got stuff on the economy, on crime, on Ukraine, on everything. We, because we have the best team in the radio business, are monitoring in real time as we talk to you, bringing you all of the highlights of this. We might even join it live if he gets onto a particular topic that we think is necessary to get into every detail about. But Clay the Trump a thon begins once again, no doubt.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome in everybody. It is the second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. We started off talking about the situation in Chicago and Trump trying to create a new paradigm of less crime in D.C. and then perhaps a template for other American cities as well. Trump has fired Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook. We didn't get into that yet this is interesting, Clay, just because does the Federal Reserve exist outside of executive branch authority? If so, how? And then from, from where or whence does it derive said authority if it isn't within the executive branch's purview? This is interesting to see how that, how that goes, I think. And Clay, did you see also an update on the Cracker Barrel branding issue? Oh yeah, from Cracker Barrel, which we shall discuss in a little bit.
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Clay Travis
An all time own goal. But yes, let's dive into that in a little while.
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Buck Sexton
I do think that you and I with AI, not that either of us are particularly good artists, but you or I with AI, could have come up with a better logo rebrand in an hour than what this reran was. But put that aside for a second. We'll get to that in, in just a little bit. We just had President Trump a few moments ago having a cabinet meeting, his seventh cabinet meeting of his first administration. Well, I'm sorry, his second term, his first year of his second term. And this is interesting. There was an exchange. Now, it might be a little hard to hear the reporter for some of you out there, so we'll fill in a bit of it because this was an exchange of back and forth. You'll be able to hear Trump obviously, but the reporter. But I wanted to hear a reporter tells the story of how she was mugged in Washington D.C. and wanted you to hear how this went. Play 33 so more than two years.
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Epic Times Reporter
Ago was a Saturday morning in broad daylight. I was on my way to work and a young man with a black ski mask pointed a gun at my face and threatened me to hand over my phone, my wallet, my laptop and everything else. And when I refused, he used the butt of his handgun to strike me across the face in the cheek, or what some people call pistol whip me before running away. That has deeply traumatized myself and my family ever since. I've never dared to walk and the street of D.C. at night ever. And my family was extremely worried. So, Mr. President, thank you so much.
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Congressman Chip Roy
For what you're doing right now.
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Donald Trump
Thank you for being honest.
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Epic Times Reporter
Such incidents involve not just me, but also my family. If he had shot me, I could have died right there in the middle of nowhere without my families or my friends knowing. At the age of, back then, I think 20, 23.
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Donald Trump
Right.
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Epic Times Reporter
Just starting my career here in D.C. without even starting a family. And now I'm very blessed to have this opportunity.
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Donald Trump
So you had a gun pointed at your head and you probably figured that he's going to pull the Trigger, because these are animals that don't know what the hell they. They couldn't care less. The pulling the trigger to him is a very minor event, and I'm sure he's done it before. So how did you. And you. And you did refuse to give it, which would probably. Maybe somebody would say that was not the right decision. Right. But you refused. But I understand that. So, so. And then he hit you real hard.
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Epic Times Reporter
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Okay. Clay, this is. Here's a reporter I saw on the exchange. She's. She looks to be Asian American.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. She's a young porter at the Epic Times. I believe some people may get that newspaper weekly. I believe that goes out many different places.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. So he's a young woman. She's not physically large, formidable person. She. First of all, she's a woman, and beyond that, you know, she's not a. Somebody who would be in a particularly strong position to defend herself. Broad daylight, guy with a ski mask pulls a gun, says, I'm going to murder you if you don't give me your stuff. And then he pistol whips her in the face. People hear stories like this in dc, Clay, and you know what the response is? Oh, yeah. I know a few other people that. That's happened to. And remember, this is happening in the nice neighborhoods. Indeed. You know, she. She's talking. I. I could probably tell you, I'm just guessing, she probably lived in, like, Adams Morgan or something. We're talking about in Northwest D.C. this stuff happens. We're not even getting into how often this stuff goes on in Southeast D.C. and here, Trump actually continues on this exchange. So just wanted you to hear what's going on here. Here Trump continues with this. Oh, you want to jump in?
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Clay Travis
Oh, sorry, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm much less serious news, but I lost with my wife, so I was just texting her during the.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's not. I thought you lost a bet with me. And I was going to say, hold the phone, stop the press. That's. That's always good news.
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Clay Travis
This is all very serious. But Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift just got engaged and I just got texted about it. So this is going to take over all the pop culture news.
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Buck Sexton
We're going to put a pin in that one. We're going to go back.
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Clay Travis
That's what I was doing. That was my face reacting to the.
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Buck Sexton
News you were on was usually, usually, usually serious news. We can read. I can read his face usually. And I know when he's. He's fired up and you make a point Whatever. And he's an honest guy and he's telling you we're having a very serious important discussion and he's fired up that he lost a bet over Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Honest man. We'll come back to that. Clay. We'll let you, we'll let you weigh in on that in a second. Let's get back here to this woman, this reporter, pistol whipped in the face, the whole thing. So remember, there's also the trauma of these things that lingers with individuals, especially for a woman to be attacked like this. I mean it be trauma for a guy too. But for a woman to be attacked like this broad daylight, guy has a ski mask on. And Trump and the reporter Continue the exchange play 34.
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Donald Trump
It's really amazing that you weren't shot though, isn't it?
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Epic Times Reporter
I'm very blessed and that's why having this opportunity to stand here to share my story story today, one I'm very grateful for God for allowing me to still survive to this day. But also to Mr. President, thank you for now making D.C. safe. Thank you very much for us, for our families, for my parents, my, on my behalf of my parents and now my, my baby on the way.
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Clay Travis
Thank you so much.
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Donald Trump
And there are other reporters and journalists, good people and you don't have to say it but that have also been attacked violently and not violently too pretty, pretty badly but and I bet you see a big difference on the streets right now. And this is only 12 days but people are telling me they're going out to dinner now they haven't I told to serve my friend but I have a lot of friends that are going out to dinner all the time now in D.C. and they weren't, they weren't doing it 12 days ago. They would never even think. One of my friends went out five times. It was four times the last time I told now it's five times he said. I love going out to dinner. And restaurants are starting to open again. A lot of them closed because you know, they weren't nobody wanted to go into a restaurant. Nobody wanted to get to a restaurant or even sit in the restaurant. But you see a big difference now, don't you? I do.
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Epic Times Reporter
I do pass by Union Station every day on my way home. And I do feel lasting for seeing the trucks right outside, see the National Guard troops members right outside just make me feel like I'm hopeful about these kicking and one day hopefully we can raise our family here.
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Donald Trump
Thank you very much.
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Clay Travis
I think this is fantastic and there's going to Be a lot of criticism because we've got a cut and I want to play it. This is cut 10. A woman at the DNC yesterday saying, ho hum, there's not actually crimes like this because this is now where Democrats are relegated. Cut 10.
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DNC Woman
Where does Trump go? Migrant crime, carjackings, the really lurid, awful stuff. That is a crazy, crazy visual. Don't take the bait. Because most Americans are more worried about how are we going to address mental health issues, the visible homelessness that we see on streets and how do we deal with mental health and other issues that drive the sort of random incidents that scare all of us. That's what you should be talking about. That's where you should be focused. Don't take the bait in talking about migrant crime, crime or carjackings or the things that actually don't matter to that many Americans.
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Clay Travis
Don't take the bait on violent crime mattering to that many Americans. And I do think again, this woman's story is echoed by almost everybody that is listening to us in the country. Somewhere in a city, somewhere in your state, innocent people are being victimized by crime. And Trump has just said, no longer. We're not going to stand for this and Buck. 12 days since a murder happened in Washington D.C. at some point there will be a murder. But when I see 12 days, based on the history of Washington D.C. in the summer, over decades, at some point you have to start to say, hey, maybe this is not a total statistical anomaly. Maybe Trump really is starting to drive down violent crime in Washington D.C. and this is why it's ultimately scary to Democrats, because if Trump can do this, Trump shut down the border. Remember the whole story that we heard for years was Congress has to act in order for there to be border security. Trump showed up and shut down the border security. And I think what's happening now with DC Violent crime is Democrats are becoming terrified. Chicago, we started off Baltimore, Memphis, Kansas City, New Orleans, whatever city you want to point to with a huge violent crime rate. It's a failure of will. It's a failure of caring enough to actually drive down crime. We can do it.
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Buck Sexton
If you look at what most of the homicides are in a place like Washington, D.C. they are not, you know, it's not like people are having a random property dispute and they both pull out guns or something. It's overwhelmingly drug, gang related and theft, slash armed robbery, crime related. Right? I mean, this is people are being shot because someone's trying to take something from them, or people are being shot and, or shooting at each other because they want to be able to sell drugs in a certain area without, without competition. I mean, that's, this is what drives most of the homicides in a place like Washington, D.C. and a lot of places across the country. Those things can be made more difficult if there are more law enforcement officers on the streets and if they are told that arrests will be turned over to prosecutors who will do something with those arrests. That's a huge component of this. Remember, law and order. Dun Dun. You know, it's about the police who investigate crimes and the prosecutors who bring them to bring the offenders to justice in a court, it has to be a one, two punch. But Clay, of course, you can address these things.
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Clay Travis
You make it, you make it harder.
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Buck Sexton
For somebody to get away with going and doing a drive by shooting on a, on a rival's turf. You make it harder for somebody to think, I'm going to put on a ski mask, as was done to this young female reporter, and in broad daylight pull out a gun and smack you in the face with it and think that I'm going to get away. This is really straightforward stuff. And I like that Trump is doing this for the reasons we've all discussed about saving lives and helping people and making the streets better, but also he just don't let Democrats squirm out on this one. Don't let them get away with what they're doing here, which is they are defending the status quo of unacceptable criminality in American cities. That's what they are doing.
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Clay Travis
And again, 12 days without a murder, are they going to be in a position where they're actually now rooting for murders to occur? This is why the Trump move is so brilliant, both politically and also morally right. Sometimes, thankfully, these things overlap where you can do the right thing politically, hey, we should have less crime. That's something Republicans should be behind. And also morally, because even the people that Trump is protecting, remember, almost none of them voted for him. D.C. was at what, 95, 5 voting for Democrats. It's taken a Republican president to be willing to say, I'm going to make you safer. And it's not necessarily politically beneficial in Washington, D.C. for Trump. These are people that are not Republican voters. Same thing Chicago. Same thing in all these different blue cities. But it's just the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do, and it's something Democrats should have done, are unwilling. And Trump looked at it and said, I'm going to fix this. God bless him for it.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
All right. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We're joined by Congressman Chip Roy of Texas. Congressman, appreciate you being with us, sir.
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Congressman Chip Roy
Great to be on, fellas. Hope you're doing well. As college football just starts to heat up, it's good time.
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Buck Sexton
And well, there's, and there's the very exciting news that Clay is going to get your take on at some point, I'm sure. Speaking of football, of Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift's engagement. Congressman. So we got that going on, but we'll get to that in just a few minutes maybe. In the meantime, talk to me about the congressional stock trading ban. Let's, let's see, where does that actually stand? Because I see this, lots of talk about it and it doesn't seem to be clear what are the rules and what should the rules be?
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Congressman Chip Roy
Well, existing. Yeah, thanks for that question. It's something that's been important to me for a long time. When I got to Congress, I introduced legislation in 2020 to address this issue because it just did not make sense to me. The members of Congress were sitting here making serious decisions about key issues while they're also trading stocks directly impacted by it. Right. Whether you're talking about breaking up big tech companies, you're talking about health care monopolies, you're talking about defense contractors, I feel like that ought to be separated. So, you know, current law, you've got to have disclosure, but you're allowed to do whatever you want to do. And in that disclosure, obviously, there's a lot of trades. And by the way, this is a bipartisan problem. Obviously, Nancy Pelosi gets a lot of the headlines because of her prolific trading. But a lot of Democrats and Republicans both do it. And I just think we ought to clean it up. I've got legislation that would do it. But we're now working currently through this August on a bipartisan bill that would bring together a number of different approaches, including what the Senate passed out a committee right before August break and try to bring those together. And look forward to a pretty big, I think, news announcement when we get back up in D.C. next week with a good group of Dems and Republicans with a bill that would restrict stock trading and require, you know, there to be penalties if you're engaging in that and you need to be in broadly traded mutual funds instead of independent stocks.
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Buck Sexton
The congressman actually, since since I got you on this one and you're talking what's going to happen, you come back, something else that I think is really important for any of us who have wondered why is it we have to wait hours at the gate at the airport because the crew is not there and sometimes because there's no pilot there, I think this could really help a whole lot. You're a sponsor of the Let Experience Pilots Fly Act. I know you introduced the original version a few years ago. Senator Lindsey Graham has a Senate companion bill. So they're trying to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67 because of pilot shortages. These pilots, these are some of the most experienced pilots. My father in law is a super experienced pilot who's coming up to that period of his career. And so many of these great pilots want to stay on board. This is sort of able to be done. It's even bipartisan. How can this get out of committee and actually get done so that we have some of our most experienced pilots training the next generation of pilots and more pilots so we don't wait at airports for hours because we have shortages?
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Congressman Chip Roy
Yeah, this is certainly something I've tried to elevate with, you know, Secretary Duffy and his team. We've just got to basically beat back the lobby, the lobby that opposes it, which as you might, you know, understand, is a powerful union lobby that would say, well, they've got more bargaining power and more leverage. They've got, you know, tighter numbers there. And I think we ought to increase. I mean, look, this is in line with a lot of international standards. For example, the Japanese pilots and others. I mean, it's not unusual. And importantly, we're now getting to the place where we have greater and longer lifespans. And the notion that someone who's 67 is any worse off necessarily than, you know, a 50 year old who could, you know, drop dead from a heart attack or something. You have two pilots, you have safety mechanisms to deal with this sort of thing. I think it's really important for us to have an adequate number of experienced pilots. And that's my biggest concern, is that we're going to be running through a bunch of people trying to fill up the jobs of pilots and that would endanger the American people by putting more inexperienced pilots in the cockpit. So let's, let's relieve that pressure valve a little bit by increasing that age and allowing more experienced pilots to fly.
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Buck Sexton
How does that happen? Like, how do we get this? You said beat back the unions, so who is this? Just members of the Senate who want to keep getting that union cash or something. How do we get this into committee and get it through?
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Congressman Chip Roy
Well, we've Got to move it through the Transportation Committee. And we've got to make sure that enough people know that this is a legitimate issue and that there's no reason to block it. And we're getting some traction and some ground on that. My colleague, Troy Nelson, Texas, led the bill in committee. It was mine, my bill to start with, but I handed it off to him because he's on the Transportation Committee and, you know, that's the easiest way to try to move things. So we're trying to work it through the committee this time. The speaker is aware of it. I think it's just something that we need to elevate and look at the American. American people are tired of waiting in lines and tired of our concerns about inexperienced pilots. It's got to let your members of Congress know that this is an important issue and it's an easy solution.
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Buck Sexton
Absolutely. Clay.
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Clay Travis
All right. You have announced that you are running for Attorney General of Texas. The. We talked about this a little bit earlier. The primary in Texas happens very soon. Relative speaking, it's March. You are a monster football fan. Texas got a huge game coming up against Ohio State. I'll let you talk about that. But I would imagine one of the challenges of campaigning for an early primary is so many Texans out there with high school, college and NFL football about to take off. A lot of people's entire attention just goes into the football world and not necessarily to the battle for the primary. So why do you want to be Texas aggressive and what's going to happen this weekend in the biggest game between Texas and Ohio State?
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Congressman Chip Roy
Well, dress the AG first, because then we maybe have a little more fun talking about football on the back end. But you know, I appreciate your all show being a good balance of sports and politics. It's. It's good for our world. But look, I want to be AG for a simple reason, and that is how are we going to secure Texas? Because if we don't secure Texas, we're going to lose America. That's the bottom line. I will have served four terms, eight years in Congress. I've done what I think I can do so far up there to try to change things. I'm very proud of the record of trying to fight spending and stand with the border security individuals and law enforcement officials that are trying to secure our border. Stand with the Trump administration to deliver on the big beautiful bill, but make it better, actually deliver on spending restraint. All of the things that I've been able to do, fighting stock trading, fight for healthcare freedom, a lot of things that I feel very good about. But it's time as someone who is a former federal prosecutor, as someone who is the former first Assistant Attorney General of Texas, to come back to Texas and stand up and stand side by side with our sheriffs, our constables, police officers, Department of Public Safety, people I saw in action during the Kerrville floods, which I proudly represent. But we just dealt with that big tragedy this summer. And I was working with law enforcement and it just reminded me how important it is. And I can assure you Texas will have no better advocate, no better partner as Chip Roy in the Office of the Attorney General. Combating drug cartels, combating human traffickers, going after street level thugs. The Office of the Attorney General has one of the biggest law firms in the state. It's the most important Attorney General's office in the country. And you gotta have somebody ready on day one. Like I said, I've been there, I've been a prosecutor, I've been in AG's office. And at the end of the day, you gotta have somebody who's unafraid to fight and unafraid to win. And I've been doing that. And look, we're under assault by radical progressive leftists, you know, George Soros, of funding DAs in Texas, Guys, I mean, like, people don't realize how bad it is in our blue cities in Texas because of what George Soros and the radical leftists are doing. And we gotta change that. We gotta back the blue, we gotta secure our streets. They don't realize how bad it is, the pressure at our border with the cartels notwithstanding. Trump, because he's doing the right job. But when you get another bad president like Biden, Texas has got to be even more prepared to hold that line. Hold the line against Chinese Communists buying up our lands. Hold the line against faceless bureaucrats and corporations buying up our small businesses and making our health care more expensive. That's what the AG's office has a lot of power to do. And so I'd be ready to rumble on day one.
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Clay Travis
All right, well, sorry to cut you off, but you. I can't believe. I would be stunned if he picked Ohio State, given that he's running for office in the state of Texas. But it is the biggest game of the weekend. 10 million plus people are going to be watching much of Texas for sure. Much of Ohio. What happens this weekend between Texas and Ohio State?
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Congressman Chip Roy
Well, look, obviously a lot is going to be riding on the arm of Arch Manning. I think Texas defense is in a good position to be able to hold the line and be able to give him a little bit of room to deliver. I still like Texas in this. I know we're having to go up to Ohio State. I know that it's, you know, a big game and the entire eyes of the nation, so to speak, are going to be looking at Texas here to see what they can do. But I like our. I like our chances to get up there. And look, I think Arch has proved himself formidable and. And look, it's going to be a big game. Everybody's going to be watching it but Texas defense. Texas defense holds the line. It holds Ohio State. Arch will deliver. That's my basic summary.
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Buck Sexton
I always bet on Arch.
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Clay Travis
That's a great take, by the way. I'm also on Texas.
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Buck Sexton
I'm just saying, I. Yeah, Texas. Arch is doing a great job.
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Congressman Chip Roy
Well, look, I mean, you know, hook them. It goes without saying. And you know, as a graduate of Texas Law School, I was going to pick Texas no matter what, but I actually believe what I just said. The spread's very close. I mean, look, it's. It's close to a toss up. I know that the odds makers are giving a little edge to Ohio State and probably a home field advantage. But I like Texas. I like our energy. I like where we are. I like what Sarkeesians philosophy is. I like what I'm seeing out of the entire university. And even though my Aggie wife might have to hold her nose while watching the game over the weekend and my Red Raider father as well, we'll all be pulling for the state of Texas this weekend.
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Clay Travis
Oh, well, good luck on the campaign. We know it's going to be a crazy fall for you as you get ready for that, I guess late winter, technically primary season. And good luck to the Longhorns this weekend. I know we probably just alienated. I know. Oh, I'm going to get deluge from Ohio because I think we're number one in Cincinnati, Columbus and. And also Cleveland at different times of the year. So we're going to get lit up here. But Congressman, we appreciate you. Good luck in the AG campaign.
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Congressman Chip Roy
Hey, God bless you guys. Take care.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with the True Love edition. The program as Buck has just been glowing with the news coming down that Taylor Swift and her football playing boyfriend Travis Kelce have become engaged. Oh true love wins again. We are running through a bunch of different stories out there. The ongoing battle of Trump deploying resources to Washington D.C. crime coming down, the discussion about whether it should also happen in Chicago, Baltimore, potentially other New York City. I think he even mentioned potentially other blue cities out there. This is going to continue to be the battle as Trump has made that fair to say. Buck the story of the summer 2025. What he is trying to do when it comes to violent crime, I think it's fair to say that given that the tariff panic appears to be over. We have set all time record highs in the stock market this summer. Given that the border is completely shut down. I said, and I think you signed off on this for years, that the election was as easy as ebc, economy, border crime. The border is secure. Now we're going through the process of deporting many different illegals that were here. But that scenario of the border being wide open and millions of illegals continuing to flood in, as occurred under Joe Biden, that's solved. Trump has solved much of the border crisis. Crime is the economy. With the tariffs now basically agreed to, with the big beautiful bill passed which locked in the Trump tax cuts for the next decade plus the economy I think is on very sound footing and continuing to get better. And Trump has now pivoted his attention to a large degree to crime and he's managed to do the impossible. He has managed for Democrats to now be arguing he's trying to lower crime too fast. We are opposed to his attempts to lower crime. That is where we are right now. I wanted to play a couple of cuts of what is going on. Trump has been doing his press conference. So our team has been running on that. We've got several different Trump takes. Let me hit you with all of these. Trump on the trans issue as this has come back to the forefront. State of Virginia win some Sears running against Abigail Spanberger. I believe there was today news about Roanoke College allowing the women on the swimming team there to sue for what they were put through here. Is Trump reacting, I would imagine, somewhat that cut 31, they said that's an 80 20.
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Donald Trump
No, it's a 97 3. It's 97 3, like transgender for everybody. They fought for it. They're still fighting for it. I saw a guy today, a politician that you all know very well, well, fighting like hell for men playing in women's sports. You don't understand. They're human beings also. Well, I agree they're human beings, but you can't have a seven foot guy playing basketball with the women. You know, just one of those little problems in life. And we all have our place. That's okay. I've got my place too.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so that is Trump weighing in common sense issue that I think is one that honestly put him into the White House. That's the thesis of my new book that's coming out in November. And Then he got asked a ton about crime. And we played you, the epic Times reporter who pointed out, hey, I had a gun pulled on me. I was pistol whipped. Now, I appreciate everything you're doing to try to lower crime in D.C. here is Trump saying, they say I'm a dictator, but I'm just trying to stop crime. Cut 32.
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Donald Trump
And they're going to fight me like this slob of a governor you have in Illinois. This poor guy got thrown out of his business by his family. Know the family. I was partners with the family. Nice family. I like the family. But he was no good. He was. They threw him out. He's governor of Illinois. And he goes about, Trump, we don't need his help. Chicago is the worst. These places are really bad. But then he goes on television says, oh, Trump is a dictator. He's a. And a lot of people here, so. So the line is that I'm a dictator, but I stop crime. So a lot of people say, you know, if that's the case, I'd rather have a dictator, but I'm not a dictator. I just know how to stop crime. And you would think that Illinois, where they have such a problem with crime, such a bad governor, he should be calling me and he should be saying, could you send over the troops, please? It's out of control.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so this is the topic. Trump has pivoted it and buck. Democrats are now arguing, as Trump said, he's a dictator. He's working too hard to try to lower crime. It's kind of crazy.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. I hope the Democrats continue on this, because when there's a problem, we would like to think that the people who are empowered, politicians and others empowered to deal with it, would at least have an alternative solution to what the Republicans have on this issue. Democrats just have shut up. There is no problem, even though we all know there's a problem. And that's why this won't work. And that's why Trump is right to continue to pound this, continue to hammer this. You know, we hammer Democrats on the border. And sure enough, that was a critical issue in this last election cycle and one that we were able to now, with Trump in charge, prove beyond any doubt was a choice, not an inevitable reality. As in the open border did not have to happen. Trump showed that the people saying that it was a choice, that was correct. It was a choice. And we've made another choice. Now we can do the same thing with crime. And this is, I think, a. You see people say this Clay online, too. Hey, you know, you can just do things when you're in power. You don't have to actually, you know, mother, may I? With the Democrats all the time, you can find areas where things can be improved and just do them and show people. And then that affects the political outcome too, because results are nice. I think we grew up in a political climate, Clay, just very broadly speaking of politicians all lie. Nothing ever gets done. It's all a unit party. It's all. I think Trump has shattered that narrative more than anybody else we've seen in our lifetime where it's just, oh, it has to be this way. Go along to get along the Potomac two step. All this stuff, nonsense. And on this issue of crime, it's a. By the way, the timing on this is perfect now. Things are a little slowed down with the news cycle. It's August. A lot of journos are on vacation. Less stuff has happened. A lot of people in general are on vacation. You know, all of Europe is on vacation. So this is a great moment to bring focus to this issue and to show people where the two sides stand. So, I mean, saying he's a dictator, it's just so pathetic. After all, what is the dictatorship? What's the issue here, really? Ask this. What's the downside of what he has done? What are we going to pretend the Democrats care about spending all the, all the overtime, you know, that's been spent on this? Oh, no. I'm sorry.
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Clay Travis
This is, this is where I come back to both politically and morally. This is the right choice. Politically, it's smart because being against crime is something that the vast majority of Americans are connected to and carry and care a great deal about. So it's good to be on this side. Morally, it's better if less people die, just especially young people who are overwhelmingly victims of violent crime. We're talking about people with decades of their life. We played the clip of the, of the I. This even makes me a little bit sick. And I bet it's gonna make you sick to the stomach to even think about Buck now that you're a dad. We should play the woman who talked about being a victim of violent crime getting pistol whipped. And as she said now she's, she feels very fortunate. She's pregnant and she's going to have a baby and she wants the city to be safer. One of the worst things, and I'm going to be dark. One of the worst things that could happen to anyone out there is that your child is a victim of violent crime. That woman in the press conference and I give her credit from the epic times, talked about the psychic trauma that she still feels from the attack that she had levied against her, the violent crime attempt. I would also point out that anyone who loses a child is dealing with psychic trauma for the rest of their lives. And when you consider who tends to be the victims of violent crime, it is overwhelmingly young men and their moms are never going to recover. So leave aside politics. We should do everything we can to make it the case that there are less victims of violent crime in America. And I just, I give tremendous credit to Trump for this because a lot of politicians assume that things should stay as they are. Trump's radical gift is he looks at problems and he actually tries to come up with solutions. Hey, why don't we fix this? And again, I think it's the builder background, because any of you out there that have worked in housing or building it, and it does, by the way, it doesn't have to be just a building, can be building a business. All you do all day long is find problems and try to solve them. That's how you build a business. A successful business is really just an exercise in problem solving. How do we increase our profit margin? How do we hire the right people? How do we look at this situation and solve it to create a better situation? Trump comes in with fresh eyes because he's not a lifelong politician. And I think, frankly, when he looked at the data and realized we have a 30x murder rate in Washington, D.C. compared to London and Paris, that's unacceptable. And I think a lot of left wing journals, they're rich. They live in gated communities. They oftentimes have security to help protect them at their jobs. They don't want to acknowledge the problem because Democrats aren't solving it. And if Trump comes in and solves it like he solved the border, it would require them being honest and giving him some credit. And what's unique about this is Trump is actually trying to save the lives of people in cities who either didn't vote or were highly unlikely to vote for him based on statistics. So he's doing the right thing, even though it doesn't necessarily benefit his base. The reality is Washington, D.C. voted more than any community in America against Trump. And Trump's still saying, okay, they may not have voted for me, but I want them to be safer. I want less of them to die. It's actually an incredibly noble goal.
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Buck Sexton
Look, when I lived in New York City and Bloom, look, Bloomberg was essentially a Democrat. I know he was technically ran as a Republican. But he was doing a good job and he was keeping crime down and I was thankful for it. And I actually remember early in my career saying some nice things about Mayor Bloomberg as mayor and people getting angry at me because. Yeah, is he bad? You know, was he a little nanny state on the big sodas? Sure. Is he horrible on guns? Sure. Is he. But did he keep the city running in a way that it was efficient and safe? Yeah. And so that matters. So you would think that there are some things that can transcend just the most basic tribal politics. Like if you're doing a good job making me safer in my city, I am thankful for that. And I, I approve of or I agree with that. No Democrats, it's. They would rather be unsafe and Trump be wrong than be safe and have to say thank you to Trump. I think that's really an explanation of Trump derangement syndrome.
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Clay Travis
Yes. I mean, they had that one. Did you see the lady that went viral where she said, in Chicago, I was attacked and my wrist was broken in a violent assault, but I don't want crime to decline because I don't want Trump to be involved. And this is someone.
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Buck Sexton
I didn't see that, but I just, I know that mentality is pervasive. Unfortunately, these.
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Clay Travis
That's what I'm saying. This woman did a whole video that went mega viral where she said, I would rather be physically assaulted and have my safety question than to have Trump in position of power in any way in Chicago. And I think it goes directly to your point. When you are actively supporting policies that put you and your family in danger because you disagree with the politician putting them in place, your brain is broken and you are not behaving logically, irrationally.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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