Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 27 2025

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Daily Review – August 27, 2025

Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Theme: Breaking News – Minneapolis Catholic Church Mass Shooting, Analysis & National Context

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the breaking and tragic mass shooting at the Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota, occurring during a children's Mass to start the school year. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton provide real-time updates, analysis, and context as events unfold. The discussion also expands into broader debates on religious targeting, gun violence, security in schools and churches, and the response (or lack thereof) from law enforcement and the media. Additional topics include the possible connection to an earlier Catholic-targeted shooting, the profile and motive of the shooter, and caller and guest reactions—including from security expert David Rutherford.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Details of the Shooting

• Initial Reporting and Context

  • The shooting occurred at Annunciation Catholic Church during a Mass with Catholic school students.
  • It was the school's opening day Mass—a tradition in many Catholic schools.
  • Two children, ages 8 and 10, were killed and several others were wounded.
  • Shooter fired into the church through stained glass windows with multiple firearms (rifle, shotgun, pistol).
  • Shooter is confirmed dead via self-inflicted gunshot. [02:00–05:00]

  Clay Travis:

  “If there is a final circle of hell, someone who would shoot children in a church belongs there. This is about as evil as anything as any act could be.” [04:55]

• Police Update and Investigation

  • Police Chief Brian O’Hara described it as a “deliberate act of violence against innocent children.”
  • Seventeen people were injured, fourteen of them children; two children remain in critical condition.

  Chief Brian O’Hara:

  “The sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible." [08:17]

2. Potential Connection to Prior Shooting

• A mass shooting occurred the previous day next to a Catholic high school in south Minneapolis (seven shot, one killed).

• Hosts strongly suspect a link due to location, targets (Catholic institutions), and weapon style, though police have not officially connected the incidents. [05:00–07:00, 27:15–28:32]

  Buck Sexton:

  "There’s a high likelihood, Clay, that these are related up, but maybe not... Maybe there’s details we don’t have yet and that’s why law enforcement is not connecting them. But it certainly seems to be the case.” [05:00]

3. Shooter Identity, Motive, and Ideological Elements

• Emerging evidence suggests the shooter was transgender, with a history of mental instability and anti-Christian/anti-Trump ideology.

• Messages found on gun: "Kill Donald Trump", "RIP and tear", "Where is your God?", "Why so queerious?" [24:48–25:30]

• Manifesto references, photos at a gun range shooting at images of Jesus, and a possible link to previous trans shooters (such as the Nashville Covenant School attack).

• Shooter allegedly had a YouTube channel with videos and potential manifestos, now removed. [24:48–28:32]

  Clay Travis:

  “It appears based on all the evidence out there that this is a Christian-targeted shooting by someone who clearly is mentally unstable... as facts develop, we’ll learn more.” [25:30–27:46]

4. Security Failures and Policy Debates

• Discussion of the wider pattern of violence in Minneapolis, police shortages since the 2020 riots, and the ongoing consequences of demoralizing law enforcement. [09:17–10:52]

• Extended debate on the necessity of armed security at schools and religious institutions; hosts argue that every school in America should have armed guards.

• Callers and guests reinforce the importance of security measures at "soft targets" (churches, schools). [15:03–16:29, 38:48–40:33, 52:03–55:23]

  David Rutherford (Navy SEAL/Security Expert):

  “This is absolutely preventable. The problem is it requires a focused and concerted effort by organizations that are soft targets... Yes, if you were to have an armed security guard at the front gate, it would change things.” [52:50–54:35]

5. Mental Health, Transgender Policy, and Cultural Critique

• Hosts heavily critique the medical and social response to transgender issues, especially as they relate to youth, arguing that "affirmation" and medical interventions for gender dysphoric youths can lead to long-term harm.

• Parallels drawn to historical medical atrocities, arguing current trans-related surgeries are "monstrous."

• Caller Joseph argues doctors performing surgeries on children should lose their licenses; hosts predict wave of lawsuits against such practitioners. [32:48–36:42]

  Buck Sexton:

  “If you were 12 and you had your body permanently sterilized by a doctor... you’re going to sit back and say I can’t believe what adults let me do to myself.” [33:10]

6. Media and Political Response

• Hosts and guest Carol Markowitz decry what they see as deliberate delays and narrative-spinning from authorities and media, particularly when perpetrators do not fit "right-wing" stereotypes.

• Criticism of Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey's response, especially comments about the effectiveness of "thoughts and prayers," and lack of immediate focus on the shooter's ideology.

• Discussion of left-leaning figures (e.g., Jen Psaki) using the tragedy to make political points perceived as detached from the reality of the attack’s motivation. [31:05–32:28, 42:17–44:26]

  Clay Travis:

  “The mayor of Minneapolis is a gutless little weasel... he’s a coward who thinks that, you know, singing Kumbaya and everyone holding hands together... is important, but I would just say this, Clay. I knew. And a lot of you knew this, too...” [42:17]

7. Callers’ Reactions and Community Voices

• Parents and listeners express fear, demands for better security, and emotional solidarity ("you should know your community... demand that somebody is outside at least protecting" — Katie, Southern CA parent) [36:42–38:48]
• Emotional resonance of tragedy, especially for those with children the same age as victims. [13:12–16:29]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the evil of the act:

  "If there is a final circle of hell, someone who would shoot children in a church belongs there."
  — Clay Travis [04:55]

• On the police chief's reaction:

  “It sounds like he’s struggling... To even get through having to inform everybody of those details. I would bet that he’s a dad."
  — Buck Sexton [11:29]

• Security expert's recommendation:

  “I said, here’s your options...you create a fortress...you arm your teachers...or you hire an armed security guard...they chose the third one...we felt great because the guy’s an armed security guard."
  — David Rutherford [52:50–54:35]

• On media bias:

  “MSNBC and CNN and the New York Times...are going to mostly not cover the trans terrorist angle to this shooting.”
  — Clay Travis [44:26]

• On the need for security:

  “I want every school in America to have armed security inside of it. I want your kids, my kids, everybody. I think it’s important...”
  — Clay Travis [38:48]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:58] – Start of shooting coverage
• [03:54] – Police chief statement (sheer cruelty, details on fatalities)
• [08:17] – Full audio of police chief Brian O’Hara
• [10:52] – Additional police statement on casualties
• [14:16] – Discussion of security in religious institutions
• [24:48] – Details emerging about shooter's motives/ideology
• [26:25] – Carol Markowitz joins, discusses shooter background
• [32:48] – Callers react, discussion of medical ethics in trans care
• [36:53] – Parent calls in about school security
• [52:03] – David Rutherford (Navy SEAL) on security and medical response

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Tone and Language

Throughout the episode, the hosts’ tone is grave yet urgent, blending their typical directness and occasional sarcasm with genuine emotion, particularly on the subject of child victims and religious targeting. Conversation is punctuated by outrage at both the crime and what they characterize as lackluster, ideologically motivated media/political responses. Humor and banter are largely set aside in favor of focused commentary.

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Summary

This episode provides a comprehensive, real-time walk-through of a breaking mass shooting targeting Catholic children in Minneapolis, interwoven with commentary on crime, American policing, religious security, medical ethics in relation to gender transition, and media bias. Insights from security experts and community members reinforce the episode's core argument: that acts of violence targeting religious and educational institutions demand immediate, unapologetic analysis and robust security measures. The hosts repeatedly critique the cultural and institutional unwillingness to confront certain motives or trends when inconvenient to dominant narratives, especially when it comes to ideology, identity, or mental health factors. The conversation closes on a somber reminder to pray for the victims—with a clear call to action for parents, officials, and listeners alike.

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Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off right now. We have a lot of news to get to but the big tragic breaking news story of this morning is our our first, our first thing we have to discuss here a shooting at a church that was in it's in Minneapolis, Minnesota. A Catholic church, a shooting there. It was the school that is attached to this parish that was having its opening day Mass. This is something that when I was in Catholic school we used to do as well. You begin the school year with a mass and at this Annunciation Catholic Church this morning there was a Mass shooting the students had gathered in this church. The reports are as follows. There are going to be updates on this. We will bring you updates as soon as we have them in real time over the next three hours of this program. Here's what has been reported so far that there are two fatalities from this many more wounded taken to local hospitals in Minneapolis. We don't know the extent of those wounds. The the shooter was shooting through stained glass windows and this there, there could be additional bullet wounds of those who have been taking these hospitals. Likely that is the case. There also though may be glass or debris wounds which would hopefully be considerably less serious than if anybody was was hit by actual gunfire from this shooter. We know that there are a number of additional injuries and we don't know the status of those who have been taken to those area hospitals. They are being worked on and treated currently. Press conferences are underway. I just saw Mayor Fry of Minneapolis giving a press conference where he was expressing his condolences to the families.

[Buck Sexton]

I was just going to update this is just come down. This is courtesy of FOX News. Let me hit you with these two details. Literally in the last minute, police chief confirmed shooter and we'll play this audio for you. I just sent it to producer Greg armed with a rifle, shotgun and a pistol, quote, this was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children. Sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full of children, absolutely incomprehensible. And here is the awful fatality news. Two young kids 8 and 10 years old were killed sitting in the church pews. So that is just announced by the head of the Minneapolis police chief Brian o'. Hara. And again we'll get you the official audio of that. But literally in the last minute that breaking news. So two, two innocent kids, eight and a ten year old shot and killed sitting in the church pews this morning.

[Clay Travis]

If there is a final circle of hell, someone who would shoot children in a church belongs there. This is about as evil as anything as any act could be. Clay, also in the news, this is I'm wondering why they haven't made this connection or rather police are not saying they are connected, but there was a separate mass shooting right next to a Catholic high school in south Minneapolis yesterday. Seven people were shot there, one fatally. And the suspect escaped. He fired 30 rounds from a rifle. So someone fired 30 rounds from a rifle in south Minneapolis yesterday, killed someone. Seven people shot. And today at another church setting in this, I think the first one it was near a Catholic high school. In this case it's a church that has a school attached to it. And the students were gathered for their. We used to call it convocation mass when I was at a Catholic high school. That. So I would. I would think that there's a high likelihood, Clay, that these are related up, but maybe not. Maybe that's why. Maybe there's details we don't have yet and that's why law enforcement is not connecting them. But it certainly seems to be the case. The shooter is dead. Self inflicted gunshot wound is the reporting we're getting so far. Which would we. Which. Which would, under the circumstances often be the case with a mass shooting like this. The. The cowardly gunman will take his own life as soon as he has committed massive carnage and destruction. Clay, we don't have any information on the shooter yet. I have been in contact with a couple of reporters who are friends of the show who are trying to get that information from law enforcement asap, just because then we might get some sense of motive. We know the shooter is all dressed in black. We don't have anything be. And the weapons that. That he had and it was a he. Beyond that, I don't think we have any identifying information. But this is a reminder of some things that unfortunately are going to be very. There's no answers for this other than it's incredibly evil and evil exists in the world. I think that there is a turning toward church generally in this country and to the Catholic church specifically. That is an incredibly good thing for the nation and a beautiful thing. I'm among those who has returned, who have returned to the church in recent years and really am a believer and working on my faith. And so you see this and you think, well, we don't know the motive. You know, it's tough to get beyond the. The reality of this is just such an evil and heinous thing. And obviously it seems to be anti Catholic in nature. I can't get beyond that description. I don't know, you know, Clay, is it. Is it someone who is a. Someone along the lines of the Nashville school shooter, for example, who's a anti Catholic, anti traditionalist terrorist? Is it. Is it a jihadist? We don't know. All we know right now is the tragedy of the shooting.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's play a couple of these cuts that just have come in. Buck from the Minneapolis police chief. This is Brian O' Hara addressing the media. Cut 27.

[David Rutherford]

During the mass, a gunman approached on the outside on the side of the building and began firing a rifle through the church windows towards the children sitting in the Pews at the mess. Shooting through the windows. He struck children and worshippers that were inside the building. The shooter was armed with a rifle, a shotgun and a pistol. This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children and other people worshiping. The sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible.

[Buck Sexton]

I would also point this out, Buck. I thought everything you said was, was very well articulated. Minneapolis has had a, for a city of its size, a lot of really awful violent acts. I mean first of all the George Floyd riots we all know, which basically burned down huge parts race race riots.

[Clay Travis]

That burned down a section of the downtown. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

We just had in the Minneapolis area, if I'm not mistaken, the guy show up and shoot politicians and then we had the massive search for that and now we have this shooting and again there's violence everywhere. But I would point out, I believe Minneapolis because the police were so attacked in that community is still operating at an unprecedented level of lack of police. In other words, I think they still need to hire back hundreds of police officers to be able to do the job. There's. And there's been just a cascading series of violent acts over the last five years. I would just suggest maybe possibly having not demonized the police and having hundreds of more police officers there. Because Buck, as you know, during the race riot, blm burning down of that city in many parts of it, a lot of police just said I'm fed up. Nobody has our back here at all. And there are massive needs for hiring of police officers. Here is cut 28. This is awful news but I want you to hear it from the police chief. These were Catholic school kids celebrating morning mass targeted by the shooter. And the two deaths, 8 year old and a 10 year old sitting in the church pews. Listen.

[David Rutherford]

Two young children in ages 8 and 10 were killed where they sat in the pews. Their parents have been notified. Seventeen other people were injured, 14 of them being children. Two of those children are in critical condition. The coward who fired these shots ultimately took his own life in the rear of the church. Our hearts are broken for the families who have lost their. Their children.

[Buck Sexton]

It sounds like. And I know this police officer has probably seen a lot of awful things in his life. It sounds like he's struggling. Brian, Brian o' Hara there. To even get through having to inform everybody of those details. I would bet that he's a dad. A lot of dads and moms 8 and 10 year old to die is. Is just beyond comprehension from from cops.

[Clay Travis]

I knew on the job in the NYPD, Clay, who had been on for 20 years. The hardest thing for them was always the bad stuff and the, the deaths. Sometimes murders.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Abuse or through something like this, through a. Through a gang shooting, the deaths of kids was always a thing that, you know, the cops can't even. They can't even really talk about it. They can't go there. It's too upsetting, understandably. But that's something that comes with the job that they carry. And you see that with law enforcement officers, you know, across the country when they deal with these situations. And unfortunately, it comes up and it's something that's. It's obviously hit here. I know there's, there's going to be, I think, a lot of discussion about motive here. Once we know who the individual is, the much. We'll see how much of this is delayed because that always tells us a bit about how the media is trying to. To frame this issue. I was just talking to friends of mine here about the concealed carry rules in Florida. You can, in some religious institutions, concealed carry, I believe you have to get specific permission, though. But in this case, I'm not even sure how much that would have. Look, I'm a big. I. Concealed carry. I'm a big concealed carry advocate. I think it's the only thing that can reliably reduce violent crime in. From a civilian. We're talking about not for what cops can do from a civilian standpoint, but in this case, the guy walked up to a building and just started firing into the building.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

You know, I'm not sure that there would be even reaction time. And this is also, it's. It's in one of these situations when, when parents are going to be finding out, you know, two families are finding out, they're burying their little boy, little girl is the worst thing imaginable. You have kids, Clay? I have a son now. It's like, hard to. Hard to even think about in process and honestly haunting to even imagine what the pain is those parents are going through. This is a situation, though, if you're asking for a. Just a pure tactical and law enforcement analysis. The fact that it's not 20 or 30 kids dead is, is. It could have very easily been that under these circumstances. Right. So the, The. The shooter here fortunately, and I know this is a horrific circumstance, but fortunately had not planned this out with a degree of proficiency where the body count could have been much higher. And I know that's not any. It doesn't comfort any of the families who have either lost their children or their children have been gravely wounded in this. But just as a society, it's a reminder. This could have been a lot worse based on the fact pattern that we know.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, this happened at the Covenant School here in Nashville, as you mentioned earlier. And I think religious institutions, sadly, certainly synagogues and Jewish schools have had to do this, but a lot of them now have armed security because this unfortunately has begun to happen too frequently. To your point, when you have somebody.

[Clay Travis]

There are synagogues here in South Florida that I know of specifically are concealed carry friendly and they should be. I agree. I think that is an excellent decision for those, those. Let me tell you this, I'm sitting in that. I was just in church on Sunday with Carrie and the baby. I want to know there's a, you know, a law abiding American patriot in that, in that church who's concealed, you know, if it's not me, I want somebody to be concealed carrying in there.

[Buck Sexton]

I've been arguing this for a long time. I mean my kids have armed security at their schools. I think it should be standard to have armed security, unfortunately, because of where we are in a lot of schools and unfortunately a lot of religious institutions as well.

[Clay Travis]

Again, in this case, speaking, speaking to the facts here. If someone's going to go up to a building and just start firing a rifle off through a glass window, you know, the. Now you could say maybe, you know, I'm wondering, he did move into the structure at some point, so I'm not sure at what stage were the children hit initially. I'm just looking at this from a security, security review, security analysis perspective. If, if the children were hit when he initially fired in, that's going to be very difficult for anybody, good guy with a gun, law enforcement officer, anybody to react to beforehand because he's just opening fire from a distance. But then if he entered the facility and continued to shoot, that's where having somebody conceal carry might have made a difference. But I don't know how you know, this is where you need to know the timeline. I don't know how quickly this guy shot himself in the back of the church. I don't know what exactly happened. We'll find out more about this, but it's just, it's just the most awful thing and it's, you know, it's tough Clay, even, even to be in our. This is the one of those days where to be in the, in the world of talking about the news is, is. Is emotionally and spiritually challenging, honestly, because there's no, there's no way to make this better for people. And I wish that there was.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. And I think again, from the parent perspective, I think you're experiencing this now differently as everyone who becomes a mom and dad is when you hear this story. I mean, I've got a 10 year old, a lot of you out there have 10 year olds, have 8 year olds, have kids, grandkids. And again, I think you could hear it in the police officer's voice as he's trying to describe what exactly happened. So we'll continue to update you on this. Again. Minneapolis, two young kids tragically killed while they were sitting in church pews this morning by a deranged lunatic mass shooter in Minneapolis, a city that has certainly had its share of awfulness. And we'll also update you on the need to continue to hire more police officers to do our best to try to limit all of these different incidents. In the meantime, more than 15 million PayPal users have had their online credentials allegedly stolen by cyber thief. Supposedly credentials now for sale on the dark web, but PayPal disputes there's been a breach. Regardless all of these companies, it's amazing and unfortunate how often all of your identities get stolen all over the web. If you do become a victim of identity theft and you're a Lifelock member, you can rely on a dedicated US based restoration specialist at LifeLock to work with you to fix it. Guaranteed or your money back. Become a Lifelock member if you aren't already. Join now. Save 40% off your first year with promo code Clay call 1-800-LIFELOCK or go online to lifelock.com my name Clay as the promo code for 40% off, that's lifelock.com promo code Clay Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Mic drops that never sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts this Labor Day.

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[Buck Sexton]

Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.

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It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name is brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

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Smart move to stick with brics. We know what happens when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

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Well, that's an understatement. BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

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[Buck Sexton]

Can he give us some inside intel?

[Clay Travis]

Absolutely. He's been there since day one. In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the US Dollar in global trade.

[Buck Sexton]

Yikes. That doesn't sound good. We gotta get Philip on the line, stat.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, already did. And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message. The world is moving on from the dollar.

[Buck Sexton]

Quietly but steadily, these nations are making.

[Clay Travis]

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[David Rutherford]

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[Clay Travis]

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[David Rutherford]

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[Buck Sexton]

Okay. Welcome back in. We are getting more and more news about the shooter. Try to avoid saying the shooter's name because that's what these guys want and sometimes gals but there this Guy had a YouTube channel that has since been taken down. But there are many pictures being taken and shared online including of the gun itself on and it appears that this is another trans shooter not dissimilar to what happened at the Covenant School in the Nashville area. All written on the gun barrel is Kill Donald Trump rip and tear written on the gun magazine. This is pretty awful. I'm just sharing with you where is your God? Why so queerious? Pretty awful. Carol Markowitz joins us now. Carol, we're trying to avoid sharing this guy's name. I know you shared it, the pictures and everything else. It appears based on all the evidence out there that this is a Christian targeted shooting by someone who clearly is mentally unstable. Based on the videos and the pictures out there, what can you tell us about this individual so far that you've been able to uncover from your sources?

[Carol Markowitz]

You know, it's all developing and of course it took a little while for them to clear the building because it was several buildings and they were worried about things being booby trapped. And so I can tell you that the original name that I had heard was actually his father's name because he had had his father's car. I don't know if there's a manifesto yet. I see the same rumors that you guys do but I haven't had that confirmed yet. It's a horrible story and it really crushes me to imagine that somebody had such hate in their hearts for these Catholic children and school officials that they would do something like this. And it's a horrible tragedy. I pray for all the people involved and there's just no words.

[Clay Travis]

Carol, how much have you seen that is solid on the reporting? Again, this goes to motive and motivation for this also. First of all, is it your belief right now? Would you. I know we don't know. But the shooting yesterday, the shooting today, they're the same shooter most likely, right? Why aren't law enforcement making this connection?

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah, I haven't heard about whether that there is a connection. It Seems to me related, but I don't know for sure. I know that also, you know, it's.

[Clay Travis]

Where just to be clear for everybody, it's two mass shootings at two Catholic institutions with a. With a semiautomatic rifle. I mean, in the same area.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah. And the fact that this connection hasn't been made, I don't know what to make of that. I'm going to definitely keep you posted if I hear of anything. And, you know, these pictures of whether this person was trans or not is also a question mark there. Definitely seem. Seems to be, just based on the photos I've seen. But I also have a confirmation of that. I think as things develop, as facts develop of this case, we'll learn more. Right now we just have the pictures of the weapons and the pictures of this individual, and really things are still very much developing.

[Buck Sexton]

There are pictures out there of this guy at a gun range firing at an image of Jesus. He had a YouTube page that has since been removed that has a manifesto of sorts posted. Clearly, this guy is deranged. Carol, you've been on the front of getting a lot of these stories out there in terms of figuring out motivation shooters, all these different things. What comes next in your experience of an investigation like this? I presume they head to wherever his residence is, worry about booby traps, things like that, to try to figure out what else might be out there. Is that typically the next step?

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah, absolutely. I think that they're likely searching his home right now trying to find evidence of motive. And like, as you guys said, it's clear that this person was mentally not well. And it's crazy also because a lot of this is very public. Right. There's these, you know, the video and the picture of him shooting at the Jesus Christ picture. All that kind of stuff is out there. And it's interesting because what are the next steps that we need to take as a society when we come across stuff like this? What should be the next step when law enforcement gets a tip about somebody being unstable, I think that that's something that the Trump administration can look at and say, you know, we keep having these tells of these shooters in advance. What should we do? How should we handle that? Could be a really interesting path for the Trump administration to take.

[Buck Sexton]

Care.

[Clay Travis]

Appreciate you being with us. Incredible reporting that you do on these incidents and to get the information, the facts out there as quickly as possible. And I mean, to me, the longer they delay on the. Whether these two incidents or. It just seems to me like law enforcement doesn't I mean some aspects of this they just don't want to get out there quickly. But Carol, thank you for being with us. You guys know Carol has a podcast with us. Thanks Carol. Carol has a podcast with us. Carol Markowitz show. She does fantastic work. Go subscribe to the Claim Buck podcast to hear Carol weekly. And one of the best, honestly, Clay, one of the best breaking news reporters on mass shootings in the country. And that's not even something that I think she's, you know, she's known for, but that's not her, her day to day job. But she just has incredible law enforcement sources. She's a huge asset to this program. Clay, let's come back in and talk more about this. I mean, I mean this is, I think we're going to find that these shootings are connected and I think that the trans connection to this is going to get bigger and bigger, which means.

[Buck Sexton]

That a lot of people are not going to want you to hear any of the details that we're talking about right now. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show. A lot of you weighing in. Awful news coming out of Minneapolis and I do think, remember when Jen Psaki was supposed to be the star of MSNBC and she was going to be the Rachel Maddow replacement. You might be wondering how people are responding on the left to what has happened to innocent 8 and 10 year old kids killed in Minneapolis. Jen Psaki tweeted when kids are getting shot in the pews at a Catholic school mass and your crime plan is to have National Guard put mulch down around D.C. maybe rethink your strategy.

[Clay Travis]

She's, she's a, I mean I know she was the press secretary but that means nothing. She's a moron. That, that has nothing to do with anything. But what does trying to beautify Washington D.C. have to do with a left wing trans terrorist who probably watched MSNBC a lot, by the way, just throwing that out there, killing a bunch of kids in a church like Clay. What? How could someone's brain affect a functional brain? Connect these two things. I would say she should be ashamed of herself. But she's an airhead. I mean she's truly an imbecile.

[Buck Sexton]

A lot of you weighing in. We haven't taken any reactions yet. Let's hit some of this. Q. Q. Joseph in South Carolina. I, I think he's actually got a really interesting and good take. This is 94.3 in South Carolina, our news radio station there. Joseph, South Carolina.

[David Rutherford]

I think a lot of this problem is that they should do something about these doctors performing all this stuff on these young kids. I know they take oath about not hurting anybody or you know, and this and destroying some little kids life at 12 or 13 or 14 years old, that's against their oath. I don't understand why they don't lose their license. You know, what is wrong with these people.

[Buck Sexton]

I think he hit on a really, really important story that I believe is going to grow in significance over the next day, decade plus. A lot of these people who have gotten trans surgeries are still relatively young. I think that there are going to be lawsuits that bankrupt some of these doctors. Because if you were 12 and you had your body permanently sterilized by a doctor, you're going to suddenly wake up one day at 22, you're going to have come through puberty, you're going to be a more knowledgeable adult and you're going to sit back and say I can't believe what adults let me do to myself. The fact that doctors were doing these tops and bottom surgeries that permanently sterilized young kids when they are minors, I think you're going to see juries are going to get some of these cases, they are going to bankrupt some of these doctors. I'm just telling you where it's coming and we're going to go back and we're going to look at this. I really believe, particularly as it pertains to young kids as the equivalent of when so many people were getting lobotomized and that was considered to be just kind of standard operating procedure for doctors. I think this is going to be, it's going to take financial pain raining down on some of these doctors and hospitals that made this a part of their business. And I think it's actually a really kind of forward thinking comment there.

[Clay Travis]

You know, I think about in just in the context, you know, I was basically a, I was a political science major in college. This will make sense in a second. Everyone but I was really an Islamic studies major as much as or sort of Islamic history and politics. I could have been a double major because of all the classes. And I remember classes I took in both disciplines. But I remember that when they passed under Zia in Pakistan, they passed laws, the hadood hadud ordinances. It's like right around 1980 they passed laws about hand amputation. And so you know, you can cut like the Quranic punishment, cut off your hand for stealing. One of the problems they ran into was that actual trained doctors were like, I'm not going to do that, you know, to their. To their doctor's credit. Yeah. And there's also. There's been other instances. You know, the Malaysian Medical association, for example, under a similar. In one of the states in Malaysia, refused, like, the doctors refused to do the amputations, even though the state was mandating that this would be a punishment. They're like, sorry, we don't, you know, we're doctors. We don't cut off healthy hands. Yeah. And this wasn't that long ago, everybody, right. This is in. Roughly speaking, in my. It was in Clay's lifetime, roughly speaking, in my lifetime. And my point here is. But doctors in this country are removing healthy breasts or healthy genitals from people because of feelings. Think. Think about this. The Pakistani doctors under a dictator who were told, get ready to remove people's hands for Koranic punishment were like, sorry, not doing it. But in this country, you have major medical. Major medical hospitals or children's hospitals who are saying, yeah, we're going to give puberty blockers and we're going to remove breasts in teenage girls. It's monstrous. I don't know what else to say. This is monstrous stuff. They should not be doing this.

[Buck Sexton]

I agree. A couple of callers, by the way. Let's start with Katie in Southern California. Katie, you say you just dropped your kids off at a Catholic school this morning?

[Katie (Caller)]

Yeah, I did, kate. It's a TK through 8th grade school here in Southern California. And after I heard about it and was getting ready for work and literally called the security guard at our school, and I said, dude, put your head on a swivel. He already knew about it, which I'm going to implore parents right now. You need to get involved. And if you should know, if you don't have a security guard at your school, you should demand one. They have a couple of them. And the first thing he. I said, he said, he actually said to me, katie, I know we deterred people here because I see them, we're in Southern California. We have a homeless population. We have mental problems, mental health issues, people going up and down the street. And he's like, I know we've deterred people from coming in here. And I can only say that. That it hits home. Those kids were praying. And for the mayor of Minneapolis to come out and say things like, this is not the time for prayers or whatever he said. I'm not going to say what I said to myself. It was a cuss word. He can go himself. But at the end of the day, right now, I Can assure you all the Catholics in my kids school are praying because they know about it and any Christian around the world should be. And that is what you do. You pray more. And this is an act. I even told our security guard today, if you need more resources, you let us know. We will find the money. And I think more parents need to get involved in knowing that. And you should know your community at a public school or a private school and that you demand that somebody is outside at least protecting because that church where my kids go to, to pray when they have mass is a lot more fortified than the one probably that was there today. And I doubt that they had security guard because that person would have been dead in about half a second.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you for the call, Katie. I endorse everything that she said. I said this right after the Covenant School shooting. We have armed officers at my public school kids school. We have armed officers at my older kids private school. I want every school in America to have armed security inside of it. I want your kids, my kids, everybody. I think it's important Buck what she just said. I also think a lot of kids need to learn that they can trust police officers, especially when they're young. That police officers are their allies, not their enemies. I think that having armed security at every school makes sense. K to 12, public, private, all of them. I soundly endorse it. And if your school doesn't, I would say it's probably worth having conversations about why they don't.

[Clay Travis]

I mean you could, you could hire right now a hundred thousand veterans and pay them $100,000 a year. You know, a nice salary. That's depends where you are. I mean if you're in a like midwestern state, that's a really nice salary. If you're in, you know, some of the major cities, it's a fight, it's a fine salary, depends. But it's a good living, right? You're making six figures, it's a good living and it cost $10 billion. 10. Now I know that's a lot of money, but for our federal government, I mean for, for the money that we.

[Buck Sexton]

You going to tell me what we spend on public schools that doesn't have anything to do with direct safety of kids? Again, I want for your kids, same thing I want for my kids. Public, private. I want everybody to have armed security. By the way, she referenced the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey Fry.

[Clay Travis]

I knew it was going to be a. Sorry, Go ahead, go ahead.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I was just going to say we haven't played this because I'm not surprised. This is the same guy who cried and got on his knee and wept at the George Floyd funeral. He said, now's not the time for prayer. Basically, I think that's what she's referencing, and let's go ahead and play it for you guys. I didn't want to play it early on because it's predictable. And also, I think it actually detracts from the legitimate things we're talking about, trying to pray for the innocent victims, the four kids who had to potentially have surgery at the Minneapolis Area Hospital. But this is Mayor Jacob Frey Fry right after the shooting. Every one of us needs to be wrapping our arms around these families, giving them every ounce that we can muster. These were Minneapolis families. These were American families. And the amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary. And don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now. These kids were literally pulling, praying. It was the first week of school. They were in a church. These are kids that should be learning with their friends. They should be playing on the playground. They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence. And their parents should have the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of basic assurances that every family should have every step of the day, regardless of where they are in our country. Okay, that's different than what I thought we were playing. He basically. He basically said as part of this discussion, your prayers effectively don't matter. And that is what many people are reacting to. And what, you know, frankly, is. Is the real conversation here should be, we got a trans terrorist. How do we stop this from ever happening again?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I mean, the mayor of Minneapolis is a gutless little weasel just putting that out there. We've seen that for a long time. No surprise. A lot of people have been harmed. A lot of bad things have happened. Because he's a coward who thinks that, you know, singing Kumbaya and everyone holding hands together and doing vigils for social justice instead of allowing people to be safe, you know, in their homes and walking down the streets is important, but I would just say this, Clay. I knew. And a lot of you knew this, too. Look, we don't want to do that thing here on the show of throwing out guesses just on the gut feeling. But if you had, I can tell you this. I texted him.

[Buck Sexton]

We said it off air. We said it off air. We were like, hey, so we'll say.

[Clay Travis]

It to each other. Because I. You know, we don't. We don't want to be. We don't want to tell you information that we have to correct ever. That's why we try to be very precise as the breaking news is coming out. And then if we're ever wrong, as you know, we'll code red ourselves on it and we'll come out. You know, I mean, I got one wrong recently on the economy size. I mean, things happen. I'm still sad about it. My point is, Clay, if you had asked me, I texted my family this morning, they said, who do you think this is? And. Or, you know, who do you think is behind this? As soon as the. I saw I was at church as kids, I mean, this is a left wing loon sent them right away. It was just, it just based on what happened here, left wing Luna immediately went to Coventry. In my head, and you and I were talking, this looks like Coventry looks like almost a copycat to the Coventry shooting. And what I can tell you is when the mayor came out and he was, you know, rending garments and crying and all emotional about it. I'm not saying that's not the proper response. It is the proper response. However, if it had been a situation of a shooting and it was a white male who was in any way identifiable with Trump or with, you know, guns, militia, whatever, anything that is right wing coded, he would have come out sad and then transitioned right away to righteous indignation. Why hasn't President Trump condemned, you know, blah, blah, you know, Exactly. But he didn't. And he didn't because he already knew that this was a he she situation and that's what we were dealing with.

[Buck Sexton]

That's 100% right. And a lot of you are hearing all of this. MSNBC and CNN and the New York Times and the Washington Post are going to mostly not cover the trans terrorist angle to this shooting.

[Clay Travis]

And if they can. I tell you what I said, I think there's going to be actually coverage of it in this. They're not really. Here's what they're going to do, Clay. And any of you are curious about this, I want you to, if you can stomach it, check out like a prime time, just the opening monologues. And I miss. They're going to cover this in a strictly news like, okay, here's what happened, everybody, here's what happened. Here's what happened. And then if there's converse, they're not really going to do analysis of it. And then tomorrow the analysis will be on these shows we have to be on guard for anti trans violence from the maga community. This is what they do.

[Buck Sexton]

That is very likely. I also think the way they'll cover it is as criticism. They'll say Trump supporters immediately addressed the trans terrorist connection here as if we're the ones who are behaving in an inappropriate fashion. And then you're right, it will lead to. But the trans community is actually always the victim.

[Clay Travis]

The real victims here, the real victims in the broader sense, they will say the real victims of MAGA are the trans community. And you'll say the victims are the little children who are just shocked by this left wing psychopath who believes in all of this left wing ideology, including his hatred of, of Donald Trump, which is very explicit, written on his gun. And the I'm a terrorist thing, I think is a tip off that he's a terrorist. Putting that out there, too. All right, look, no way to talk about this other than a big hard turn. Let's, let's, let's all shake off for a second. We're talking about really serious stuff. I'm taking you to a totally different direction for a minute. So take a breather, take a breath and get ready for some Good Ranchers because it's going to be steak night. Coming up here this weekend in the Sexton household. I got my trusty cast iron skillet and man, I get that thing so hot to get the perfect sear on my Good Rancher steaks. I've cooked for Clay and actually I was the one doing the cooking. I haven't had Clay really good, but we know, we know that, we know that may not go so well. Clay's not really into the chefing, but he doesn't chef it up as much. But Clay said it was good. Good Ranchers is fantastic steaks, but also quality beef, chicken, pork and salmon, all of it together. And Good Ranchers is all about supporting American ranchers and American farmers, raising cattle, chicken and pigs here in America the right way. I'm a subscriber. Clay's a subscriber to Good Ranchers, getting a new shipment every month. And when you get your own subscription, you'll be getting 25 bucks off each month. You'll also get free shipping and a free gift in every order for life. Choose from their bacon, their seed oil free chicken nuggets, which are also gluten free. I absolutely love these things. Or their wagyu burgers. You can swap each gift every month to try something new. It's an amazing deal because they really want you to try this. You're going to love it. Visit good ranchers.com good ranchers.com use my name Buck as your promo code. Get a one time $40 discount plus a $25 discount ongoing in future months. That's Good Ranchers.com promo code.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Clay Travis]

We're joined now by our friend David Rutherford. He's a former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor, a combat veteran, and host of the Dave David Rutherford Show Podcast, which is on the Clay and Buck network and is growing every single month since we've had them on, as I knew it would. Because more and more of you realize that's a show you should be listening to. Dave Rut, as I call him. Rut, tell me. Let's start with this. You see this? We know it's heartbreaking from a security and tactical perspective. This guy comes. It's a guy. This guy comes in, he's firing off rifle a few minutes there. Do you think that armed security presence at the church is the only thing? I mean, how do you assess this in terms of the security aspects of this.

[David Rutherford]

Buck, thanks once. First of all, thank you to you and Clay for having me on. My heart goes out to the families, to the people who work at the church and to the police officers, everybody involved in this, people who work at the hospitals and the kids, most especially. This is absolutely preventable. The problem is it requires a focus and concerted effort by organizations that are soft targets like churches, like schools. And I think, you know, yes, if you were to have a armed security guard at the front gate, it would change things. I remember back after the shooting down here in South Florida a few years back, I went into my kid's school and I gave, I laid it out for him and I said, here's your options. You know, one, you create a fortress so nobody can penetrate the perimeter, which is incredibly expensive. Two, you arm your teachers, your staff, the people who work there. Or three, which requires a tremendous amount of training. Or three, you hired an armed security guard, a former cop, a former military, someone that's got a lot of training, understands, you know, control in the different levels of threat and how to respond. And they chose the third one, put this wonderful guy Aubrey out in front of the school and all the parents felt great because the guy's an armed security guard at the exterior of the school. So, yeah, that's the way you respond to the possibility of these types of things because they're going to keep happening.

[Buck Sexton]

I agree with everything you just said. We had a caller from Southern California, I believe her name was Katie, a mom who said, hey, my kids go to Catholics school and we've got armed security. My kids have gone both to public school K to 6 and then they go to private school 7 to 12 and we have armed security at all of their schools. Is it a no brainer to you that as we look at all of these situations, the reason schools are often attacked is because they do not have. In fact, we know with the trans shooter, she actually staked out in Nashville, the school, in advance, to see what she needed to do to get to those schools and chose a school that did not have security. Isn't it just a no brainer in all 50 states that we should have armed security at every school?

[David Rutherford]

Absolutely, Clay. I mean, now where we're at, whether you go to Uvalde, you go to Audrey Hale or you go to Devon Erickson, or you go to all these, Dylan Butler, all these shooters that are coming out. Yeah, they're picking soft targets for a reason. I mean, I can't even Tell you how many times where we would do an assessment of a target that we were going to go hit or take down or do a snatch. And when we did the assessment after, you know, the. We did a reconnaissance on the, you know, the, the place we were going to hit and we saw, oh, God, there's two dudes there. They've got old AKs, they don't have kit. I mean, it's like, oh, this is incredible. Well, it's the same thing that these demented, mentally unstable human beings are looking for. They're looking for soft targets. So what should be the most fundamental thing that we predict above all else in this world, and that's our children. So, yeah, 100%. We should have armed guards.

[Clay Travis]

Speaking of David Rutherford, host of the David Rutherford show on the Clam Buck Podcast Network. Hope you have all had a chance to listen. If you haven't, please go check it out. You can listen wherever you get your. Wherever you get your podcast. The iHeart app is the best place to start. IHeartradio app. And David, you know, you're also. I mean, because I know Rudd very well. Rudd was a combat medic. So you understand and have seen gunshot wounds in real life and had to deal with them. What can you tell us? I mean, I don't know if you heard Dave, but we played earlier in the show, one of a representative from the hospital who was saying, we've got four who are in critical and then we've got a number of others who have been treated in the hospital, but they are state. Sorry, how many, Clay? Seven. Seven who are treated but stable in the hospital. So we. Those. The seven that are stable. Right. That's looking good. Those look like kids are adults. They're going to be okay. The four. The four who are critical is the primary at this point. Is, is it just. They've stopped the bleeding. Is. Is it organ damage and repair that these doctors are working against the clock to do? Like what has to happen here that we can get the best possible news out of this hospital that there are no more fatalities?

[David Rutherford]

I, I think, you know, the challenge is. And I watched the, the video that was on YouTube before they pulled it. There's a bunch of people posting it right now. So I went through and he, he has a vivid breakdown of the weapon systems that he brought into it. You know, he had an AR platform, a shotgun. He had a 9 what looked like a 9 mil and a 38 that he said he was going to use for his. For his own death if it came to that. So, I mean, when you look at every one of those calibers, they're all catastrophic injuries. If you hit in, obviously.

[Clay Travis]

Any vitals.

[David Rutherford]

Yeah, any vital. So like femoral, brachial arteries, anything like that. But you also have, if you have like an open sucking chest wound and, you know, a penetrating trauma to the thoracic cavity. You know, and the challenge is you have first responders who show up who don't have any medical training. So just being able to contain bleeding out, like direct pressure probably. You know, if cops are first responders, thank God they'll have tourniquets on their kits and then. But, you know, the other ones that are difficult are that penetrating trauma to the chest because then all of a sudden you can go into tension pneumo, hemothorax, where that. You know, that your lung collapses from, you know, the thoracic cavity filling with blood. And the problem with those is typically most patients, adults, adult men that I've seen have suffered from those injuries. They can resist. But kids. Kids crash fast, especially with these types of catastrophic injuries. So that's the real concern I would have as a combat medic showing up is one absolutely triaging. Who has the worst injuries. Stopping blood and then really fixating on airway. Right. Making sure they're perfusing oxygen in the best possible way. But yeah, I, you know, regardless.

[Clay Travis]

So. So this. But the seven who are stable, rut, they're gonna be okay. It's those four that we're praying for who are still critical. Right.

[David Rutherford]

Maybe they. They could have. They could have. They could. You know, let's say it grew. It grazed their liver or their kidneys or their stomach. You know, post infection from operations is a significant.

[Clay Travis]

Okay. So there's additional. So there's additional concerns. So we gotta have prayers up for every single person who's been treated in that hospital. Meaning that no one's. No one's out of the woods totally yet.

[Buck Sexton]

Let me also.

[David Rutherford]

Is like, you're. You're. You're only okay when you're okay, right? Because the nature of gunshot injuries can. Can. Is really difficult to know until you're all the way through and you're through recovery.

[Buck Sexton]

A couple of other details that are coming out. Let me hit you guys with this. It's looking more and more like a Covenant school shooting situation. Reports that this shooter, that his mom was a former employee at the school. So there was a connection potentially from this trans shooter, as the prior trans shooter also had a connection to the religious school that she shot up Appears this guy may have also done it. And we've mentioned this before, but I just want to reiterate. Court documents show that when this person was 17 years old, he legally changed his name from male to female and began to identify as a woman. So as a minor, for people out there, as a minor, this individual who went on to shoot up the school was deciding to identify as a different. As a different gender. So this was happening again in youth and person, I think is 22 years old. Now what should we do? Buck and I both are of the opinion, and I understand we're probably going to get attacked to the high heavens for this, but I think Buck said it well, where if someone has bulimia, you don't tell them they look great and they should continue to not eat. If you are well, that's anorexia.

[Clay Travis]

Bulimia is throwing up. But yeah, similar. Okay.

[Buck Sexton]

Thankfully not an expert in the, in the eating disorder universe, but you don't reinforce the health condition and the mental illness when you say, hey, yes, you are an actual girl or you're an actual boy. Aren't we just creating, in conjunction with all of these drugs that we're pumping into people's bodies during this, a recipe for disaster after disaster?

[David Rutherford]

100%, absolutely. I think what we've categorically proven over the last, you know, all the way back to Columbine, is that many, many, many, many children, thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of children are being medicated at early ages. Right. Much less, you know, the hormone blockers and the stuff that's going on with, with that type of madness out there for these young kids. What's interesting is when I read the pages from his manifesto, he was very complimentary to his parents. You didn't do anything wrong. This is just me. You know, he even told his siblings, I'm sorry, what I'm going to do to your life. You know, but the key, you know, is the last piece on that manifesto for me, and it says, you know, pps, he does a PS to his sibling, you know, get over the argument with your mom and you. Then he goes to PPS and he goes, I wouldn't recommend any of you to read my journals, comma, unless you really want to, comma, but be warned. So, you know, there is a mental health reality to this individual that goes way before 2017. And I'm sure if we, if a psychologist or a forensic psychologist or whoever, criminal psychologist goes, and we look at the profile of these journals and these other manifestos, you see a fundamentally broken human being that no longer is able to concoct a reason for living. And you. And he actually says this in the earlier pages of that I hate how painful life is. I don't find a reason for shooting. And then when you watch the video of him walking around, it is, it's, it's homicidal in nature. Right. There's a underlying concurrent, like there's pleasure that he's going to receive from this final act of his, you know, very problematic and confused life.

[Clay Travis]

David Rutherford. Go, everyone. Check out the David Rutherford podcast. Former Navy Seal and good friend of ours, Dave Rut. Appreciate you being with us, man. We'll talk to you again soon.

[David Rutherford]

Thank you. God bless you, gents.

[Clay Travis]

You too. Look, it wasn't even a year ago that there was a dementia puppet in the White House who had given up when it comes to the AI race and figured we'll let other people take the lead. Well, thankfully, the Trump administration has taken the stance that the AI race is critical to our future. Trump sees this as a crucial technology for Americans, for businesses in this country, for our defense capabilities, all of it. And he has identified a White House AI and crypto czar, as you know, to be very involved in this race. And there's this period right now we're in, we're developing AI technology is going to determine the future of America. I'm calling this the Manhattan Project, too, because it's necessary for us to take a lead now in the AI arms race. And this administration is preparing a 2 point trillion, $2.2 trillion counter strike against the Chinese advances in this. Look, it's a really important story, and I break it all down for you in a brand new interview. And there are companies that I believe could soar as a result of this as well. This is a new, exciting project I'm a part of. I want you to really please go check this out. Find this interview and all the details online at a new website. We're going to take this off air, so to speak. The website is off air25.com Let me repeat this. Off air25.com It's a deep dive for you to see on what Trump is doing to help us win the AI race, but also the companies that can be affected by this, that can make a huge difference when it comes to investments and your portfolio. Off air25.com this is my new project that I have launched. I want you to please go check it out. Buck Sexton, for those of you. Sometimes you get me confused with the other guy. Paid for by Paradigm Press.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Now just get to know them as.

[Buck Sexton]

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