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Buck Sexton
This is an iHeart podcast. Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?
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Clay Travis
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.
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Buck Sexton
It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name is brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
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Clay Travis
Smart move to stick with brics. We know what happens when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's an understatement. BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
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Clay Travis
Now that sounds like the.
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Buck Sexton
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.
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Clay Travis
Can he give us some inside intel?
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Buck Sexton
Absolutely. He's been there since day one. In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
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Clay Travis
Yikes. That doesn't sound good. We gotta get Philip on the line, Stat.
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Buck Sexton
Already did. And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message. The world is moving on from the dollar. Quietly but steadily, these nations are making.
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Clay Travis
Real progress towards reshaping global trade.
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Miranda Devine
And the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome in. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we roll through the Wednesday edition of the program. We got a couple of great guests coming. Miranda Devine, our friend from the New York Post, which now is going to open a version of the New York Post in California. Super interesting. They said their second biggest market was la, and so there will now be a California edition of the New York Post. But we'll talk about that and more with Miranda Devine at 1. She knows more about the lies of the Biden administration and the Democrat Party than pretty much anyone in the country. We will discuss that with her at 2 o' clock Eastern Time. 1 o' clock in the Central time zone where Austin, Texas is located. We will discuss with Governor Greg Abbott of Texas the Texas redistricting mess and the Democrats having fled the state and what the absolute latest is on that story. So all of that is coming in your direction. But, Buck, I thought Trump yesterday, first of all, walking around on the roof of the White House was great, and we played some of those cuts, but I was a little bit surprised this didn't get more attention. There has been a lot of discussion about what comes after Trump. What is the Republican Party going to do, who is going to be the next to pick up the Trump mantle and run with it. And so far, Trump has kind of avoided discussing that very much. In fact, he's tended to say, hey, that basically he would like to continue to be able to run. He's flirted with the concept of running in 2028. He's talked about it openly, notwithstanding the fact that there are term limits obviously in play for him. And yesterday he was asked, I believe, by Peter Doocy, a question about J.D. vance. And I think it is probably the most intense or most furthest along the road of a potential endorsement that we have seen. I want to play it for you and I want to get your reaction, Buck, and also many of yours out there. I know it's early, but already the discussion of what is going to happen after Trump is happening. Sorry, this is Peter Doocy asking that question yesterday. Cut to President Trump. Nice to see you got off the roof.
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Buck Sexton
All right.
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Donald Trump
Yeah. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
You said this morning that you probably won't be running for a third term this weekend. Secretary of State Rubio said that he thought J.D. vance would be a great nominee. You could clear the entire Republican field right now. Do you agree that the heir apparent to Maga is J.D.
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Buck Sexton
Vance?
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Donald Trump
Well, I think most likely, in all fairness, he's the vice president. I think Marco is also somebody that maybe would get together with JD in some form. I also think we have incredible people, some of the people on the stage right here. So it's too early, obviously, to talk about it, but certainly he's doing a great job and he would be probably favored at at this point.
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Clay Travis
What do you think, Buck? I mean, I know it's early, but the idea of a J.D. vance for president, Marco Rubio for vice president ticket right out of the gate, I think would forestall a lot of people running against, against JD and everyone else. Again, I know it's a ways into the future, but this is the most expansive that Trump has been on the subject so far. What do you think?
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Buck Sexton
Well, it's very Trump. He says it's too early to talk about, but JD's fantastic and would be a great one and probably is the one, but we can't know who the one is. But probably. Maybe we'll talk about it some other time, including today. Yeah, I think that the vice president is always considered to be. Unless it's Joe Biden after eight years, but the vice president is considered the good point. Isn't it amazing who would have taken the odds on Biden will end up as president and Hillary will not for the Democrats in 20, you know, starting in 2015 when it was clear that Hillary was the. Well, it actually wasn't that clear. It was Bernie and Hillary. Anyway, you get what I'm saying, that.
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Clay Travis
It would play out the way it did. Would have been a 10,000 to 1 bet because I think most people would have just done basic math. You could have said, hey, Hillary might have a health condition. She might have to drop that drop out. But if you had asked in like October of 16, when Hillary was a prohibitive favorite, what are the odds that Biden would ever end up president United States, you could have gotten him at an unbelievable rate.
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Buck Sexton
It also, though, just goes to. And this isn't, this isn't. Oh, rah, rah. Our team, the other team stinks. Although that's true, too. We have a deep bench. They don't. And they'll pretend like that's not the case. But we all know that that's what's going on here. Could with J.D. vance. If Trump blesses a J.D. vance campaign when the time comes, remember, it's not eight years out, it's a few years out. Now, that's the thing. It is very different. It's not like Trump has two terms to go. He's got this term and that's it.
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Clay Travis
It's a year and a half buck, which sounds crazy, but people will start officially announcing in like January and February of 27.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's not that far out. But J.D. vance, I think, would be a great standard bearer for the Republican Party. I think Marco Rubio would be a great standard bearer. I think there are about four or five other people you could throw into the mix there who, whether you love them or they're your top choice or your third choice or whatever, they're serious candidates who could win votes at Ron DeSantis, serious candidates who could win a lot of votes and do very well in a national election. And we still sit here and laugh about how the Democrats, what Gavin Newsom. I think Kamala's finished. You think maybe she makes one more run at it? Bernie Sanders is too old. The too old thing is real now. I think everyone recognizes you're right. Yeah. In the post Biden era, you can't just pretend somebody who can't walk without assistance basically is going to be the president anymore. And anyone who says, oh, well, Trump's too old, as we know, it's about the indicators you see of how someone speaks and how they move even more so than just their age. Trump is running around making fun of how people can't hit 300 yards or whatever off the tees like he can. Like Trump's doing great. So, yeah, I think that JD And Rubio would be the first. That would be the first team that most people would think of. But it is very early, Clay, and there's a lot of baseball left to play.
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Clay Travis
I do think that, to your point, on the Democrat side, there is kind of a quiet panic setting in. I think that's why they're reacting to the redistricting as they are. And again, it needs to be talked about more. The way that Covid has realigned all of the different states. You're an example of this leaving New York, going to Miami, the amount of power that is going to reside in red states for generations to come. Democrats can't win. I got a call yesterday. I don't know if it's. I don't know how it's going to end up turning out. So just be aware. I talked to a reporter from the New York Times. He called you, said he's been listening to some of our show and he wanted to talk about Sydney Sweeney and, and the impact there. And one of the questions he asked.
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Buck Sexton
Was, well, New York Times called you about this.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, yeah, they're doing this. I think they're doing a story about Sidney Sweeney and the reaction to it and, and right wing Sydney Sweeney, slash.
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Buck Sexton
First Amendment and boobs expert Clay Travis.
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Clay Travis
This is, this is my, this is my wheelhouse. So I'm not saying that I am the focal point of the story. I think Sydney Sweeney is the FOC focal point of the story. But this show now has grown to the point where I think people are like, oh, wow, you know, Clay and Buck actually talked to a lot of people and Outkick has obviously been outspoken on this and all those things. But he asked me a question. I thought it was an interesting question because I hadn't thought about it. He said, okay, so you're pointing out all the left wing Nazism accusations against Sydney Sweeney. He said, who are the Democrat politicians that have actually taken an aggressive stance on this? He said, you know, President Trump has talked about it. J.D. vance has talked about it. A lot of people have. And I said, you know, it's an interesting way of asking it because I said, whenever a Republican says something ridiculous or someone who is connected to the Republican Party, the media shows up and demands that everybody answer for it. This is, this is how you can tell how the rig job goes on. I said, yeah, you may be right that there haven't been a lot of Democrat elected officials reacting to the Sydney Sweeney ad. But let me point this out. None of them have come out and said, hey, it's crazy to call Sydney Sweeney a Nazi. And, and what I was analogizing there is at some point, Gavin Newsom has tiptoed up to it, but somebody is going to have to have the balls inside of the Democrat Party to actually call out the crazy wing of the Democrat Party. And so far, everyone is terrified of it. And that is where I think kind of the quiet panic has set in. Because who is the truth teller who will say men can't compete in women's sports? Pretty girls in Jean commercials is not the equivalent of Nazism. There is no vote voice right now for basic common sense in any way on the Democrat Party.
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Buck Sexton
The Democrat Party became, and this really happened, it started in the Obama era, and I think it reached, it reached its full, its pinnacle under the Biden administration. But it became the party of people who are just, and I mean people in the broadest sense, everybody, gender, race, everything. People who feel victimized, don't take accountability, are resentful, are bitter and, and feel lost without a political party to give them some sense of identity to make up for that whole. And that is not a happy place for people to be. It's really the party of malcontents, which is not unusual. I mean, the race politics of Democrat Party, the class warfare politics, the Democrat Party, all of that goes toward people who are generally resentful of others in some capacity. But I think now you've seen it more than ever. The Democrat Party is full of a lot of people who are just unhappy. Yeah, I know there are happy Democrats. We're talking about, you know, 150 million people on one side, 150 million people, give or take, on the other. But overall, the ethos of the Democrat Party, what is the. They don't celebrate American greatness, they don't celebrate American history without spitting on it. All the time. They don't seem like a happy bunch of people based on their politics and what they talk about and what they focus on.
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Clay Travis
I think that's well said. I would also kind of distill it in this way. It's. The Democrat Party has become the party of envy. They. They wish that they had things that other people have. I think Sydney Sweeney is a funny example of this because almost every woman that has criticized Sydney Sweeney publicly on the Democrat side is fat, unattractive and ugly. I'm sorry. It's just the truth. And it doesn't surprise me that the party that is angry that people have more money than them would also be featuring women who are angry that there are other more attractive women. And I think in general, the Republican Party is the party of meritocracy. We tend to believe that individual excellence over time wins and that you should be able to enable as much individual excellence as possible in sports and politics and business.
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Buck Sexton
Just. There's something aspirational.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
The Republican Party celebrates achievement in. And you know, this is at its most basic level, Republicans, conservatives, people on the right, let's just say the right, they look at things in around us and they say, wow, that person's really beautiful. Isn't that cool? Or that person's really brilliant. That person's so successful. Isn't that some. How'd they get there? How do we get more people to get there? Yeah. What led to that? Democrats see it and they say, you didn't build that. It took a village. You're not as good as you think. You have unearned privilege. They have all these things, all these excuses. Which, which is why increasingly I think you see people who are, you know, it's not just. I know there's a lot of very rich Democrats, people who are happy in their lives with their choices. That's really the different. I know. Misery, you know, plenty of miserable, very R people. Yes. You know, I don't think J.B. pritzker, for example, is a happy guy, even though he's a billionaire. And I could get into a whole bunch of reasons why, you know. Yeah. I think he's a. I think he's a guy with enormous insecurities. And, you know, that's just one that comes to mind as I'm talking to everybody. But I think the people who view their day to day and are feel confident in who they are and what they do, whether you're a street sweeper or you're a Fortune 100 CEO, I think that they tend to lean Right. Because that's just the way they see the world.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I think that's right. And believe in the meritocracy and individual excellence. And I do think that as time has progressed, the Democrat Party has just become increasingly angry, embittered and envious of people who have success that they wish they had. And that's a very tough place to live. It's also almost impossible to win a national election with that prism through which you're seeing the world.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I really think the Democrat Party is a coalition of bitterness. I mean, that's. At least that's what it feels like. And people. I could sit here all day and get into, oh, we had to change all the. Now, now our movies all suck. Everybody we know this movies got really bad. What happened? Democrats had to change who was writing them, who was in them, all this stuff. Same with, you know, a lot of the new Netflix shows and everything else. Fifteen years ago, Netflix was doing amazing stuff. You could talk about this in the publishing industry, too. Who's getting published? You know, it has to be like, you know, non binary Eskimo talking about the challenges of. I'm going to get angry Eskimo emails now. They're like, we're Inuit, not Eskimo. Whatever. They've done this all over the place. What have they made more beautiful, more exciting, better? What have they. Look at what they've done to cities. Have they made them more beautiful, safer, more aspirational or worse? I could do this all day. We do a whole show on just how Democrats ruin everything they're in charge of. And their philosophy is full. Their political philosophy is full of bitterness and no accountability.
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Clay Travis
An opposition to beauty, you know, in both buildings, in cities, inside and out.
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Buck Sexton
Beauty as human beings. Not just on the, on the, you know. Yes, that too, obviously, there's the Sydney Sweeney part of things, but there's also, you know, people who are tremendously courageous and, you know, unless you're talking about race or gender issues or redistribution of wealth or free health care, Democrats don't really care. That doesn't really. Doesn't really get on the. Get on the radar. So all of what we're seeing is referenced in the data.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Started off with the discussion about hey, what might be coming after Trump. Trump weighing in on who the potential heir apparent is. This is actually unfortunately a sad story and I saw the data on this and I was just shaking my head at the fact that it could have gotten this bad. One of the guys who worked with Doge that was called Big balls that the media had a ton of fun and criticism associated with him being there. Young guy was beaten up pretty bad in Washington D.C. trying to stop a mob from picking on a girl is the report that I have seen that is out there. And Trump weighed in cut three on the crime issues that are occurring in D.C. but right before I play that Buck end Wokeness shared these numbers. And I do think it kind of characterizes the degree to which we have allowed the nation's capital to descend into a great deal of.
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Buck Sexton
They were trying to carjack somebody. Just to be clear, it was a carjacking attempt. It wasn't just like a general harassment. They were trying to carjack a woman.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, listen to, listen to this data, because this is in Wokeness. Capital city homicide rates, Washington, D.C. 41 per 100,000 residents, which is an extraordinarily awful number. And then listen to some of these other countries, many of which I don't think we look at and say, boy, they've, they're really safe and Incredible. Lima, Peru, 7 per 100,000. Havana, Cuba, 4 per 100,000. Nairobi, Kenya, 5 per 100,000. Brasilia, Brazil, 13 per 100,000. Lagos, Nigeria, 15 per 100,000. Bogota, Colombia, 11 per 100,000. Mexico City, 8 per 100,000. Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, 6 per 100,000. All of those places, we are basically triple, quadruple, quintuple, 10 times the amount of violent crime. The fact that we are allowing DC to have the violence that it does is simply unacceptable. And President Trump talked about that. Listen.
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Donald Trump
By the way, I have to say that somebody from Doge was very badly hurt last night. You saw that a young man who was beat up by a bunch of thugs in D.C. and either they're going to straighten their act out in terms of government and in terms of protection, or we're going to have to federalize and run it the way it's supposed to be run.
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Clay Travis
I mean, I don't begrudge Trump making the decision, but that rate of violence that I just shared and Buck and I both love D.C. you've lived there, I've lived there. The fact that that's been allowed to occur and the Democrats who have run D.C. for generations have not stopped the violence from ensuing is. I never had looked at it as a capital city in comparison to others. It's simply unacceptable.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's a mob of teenagers trying to carjack a woman. And this is far too common, unfortunately, in D.C. because they're minors. We're going to get very few details other than the ages of these individuals. I think we can assume they were not wearing MAGA hats for sure. So, you know, this is D.C. we like D.C. clay, we talk about it. There's only One part, it's, it's a four section grid. Now, some sections are larger than others, but there's whole areas of D.C. you just don't go to. It's just considered on. I mean, there's no reason to go for a lot of people because that's not where government or the jobs are. And it's considered very unsafe at night. And so you just don't go. And it shouldn't be that way. It's, it's a shame because there are other cities, I mean, you mentioned some of them around the world. You know, Mexico has its problems where there are cartels, but overall Mexico is actually quite safe in Mexico City and you know, relatively speaking for a city of its size. But you go to a place like, like Tokyo, Japan and there's almost no violent crime. We don't have to deal with this. The reality though is you have to enforce the law irrespective of the demographic characteristics of the people who are breaking serious laws, hurting people and committing violence. That's it. You can clean this up really fast. You just can't then cry about, oh my gosh, we don't have enough Asian Americans in our prisons. There's a problem here. We need to find some more Asian Americans to put in prison. Well, no, they're not committing crimes. So that's why they're like less than 1% of the population at Rikers island in New York. And whatever the D.C. jail is, you know, it's not Korean immigrants who are committing the crimes, that's for sure. Korean Americans. So that's it. I mean, it really just comes down to you, either enforce the law and the statutes that are there and I know people are going to say, oh, well, part of the problem here is that minors know, and you know, some 15, 16 year olds, they know that they can carry guns, they can commit serious crimes and they will be effectively unpunished. Meaning, you know, they might go to juvie for a while or whatever. Unless they murder somebody, they're not going to be charged as adults. So they can steal cars, they can, you know, hold people up at gunpoint. And this is what ends up happening in D.C. you get these, these mobs of youth who, you know, I mean, 16 years old, I was like almost 6ft tall and 180 pounds at 16, like 16, you can actually be very formidable physical presence, especially if you're a guy. But you know, they're going to act like they're children and oh my gosh, they can't be seriously punished. This is what happens? There's just lack of political will to do anything.
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Clay Travis
I also think when you run through all of those other capital cities, most of those countries, even if they have extreme violence, other places, as you mentioned, Mexico, with the cartel violence, for instance, they say we will not allow this to happen in the capital city, at minimum, because they want the capital city to be seen as a jewel and representative of the overall magnificence of their country. Why would we not want the same in Washington, D.C. i mean, I have not heard this debate. I've never seen the violence rates in D.C. put in context compared to other capital cities. But I do think it is a incredible black eye for the country. And we mentioned this kid who got beaten up. I mean, this hit close to home for me because I did a couple of weeks. You came for part of them. My son was doing an internship. He's a just finished his junior year in high school. A kid got shot in Northwest D.C. where you're supposed to be safe, just walking on the streets because gun violence among the criminal class is so common that there are just gunshots spraying out all the time. And this kid, I believe he was from Illinois, was up for an internship during college, just walking basically down a street at night in D.C. and he was killed, murdered. And he wasn't the target of the violent act, but that's how common gunshots are. This is something that I think Trump is right on. And Trump cares about symbolism, he cares about beauty. And I think he sees the nation's capital being a killing ground as a black eye for all of us, no matter where we live. And it should be cleaned up. And I speak as somebody who lived as a resident in Washington, D.C. you did as well. It is a city that has the potential, notwithstanding the fact that it is filled with Democrats, to be a shining city on the hill for many different places around the world, including citizens of all over the United States. Trump's right on this. We shouldn't stand for 41 murders per 100,000 residents. We should clean this place up. And I think if we have to federalize more aspects of security and protection in the nation's capital, that's something that we have to consider and should do.
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Buck Sexton
You know, it's. You look at the data, which I'm looking at right now, and I believe this is from. This is from the Bureau of justice statistics and U.S. census Bureau data from the Prison Policy Initiative. And they're talking and they're bringing, just to be clear, they're bringing this up to decry the racial disparity. So they're, they're showing this data to say, look at how unfair this is. But the D.C. incarceration rates are per 100,000 D.C. residents, people incarcerated in District jails. Per 100,000 D.C. it's 33 white per 100,000, 135 Hispanic and 543 black. And there's no. And all the rest of the ethnic categories have actually basically zero. I mean, there's effectively zero statistically. So you have, based on this, the population. I'm trying to do the math in my head, but I mean, 543 versus 33, talking about, call it 15 times, 15 times the incarceration rate in D.C. and that's for a left wing group that's upset about it. My point is they don't want to enforce laws because they don't like what happens when they enforce laws. And so you have more lawlessness and you've seen this in every city. Well, and it's a shame because D.C. has a vibrant black middle class and upper middle class who, a lot of whom work for the federal government, who are law abiding, who deserve to have safe communities, who deserve to go to school or go to work every day and not worry about being robbed. Because most of the crime is happening in predominantly black areas. But the politicians play this game. So this is why it doesn't get better.
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Clay Travis
And I'm glad you raised all that. This is an example of where fear of being labeled racist actually has incredibly significant consequences for black communities. Because the reality is this. 13% of the population roughly is black in America. Over 50% of all murders in America are committed by people who are black. That's the reality. Okay. And so for fear of being labeled racist, almost no politicians will even talk about this. But if you truly want to lower the violent crime rate in America, the place where you have the most impact and could have the most significant saving of lives is by focusing in the black community. And you remember this as someone who lived in New York, they attacked Mayor Bloomberg like crazy for stop and frisk and saying, oh, this is racist. And Bloomberg just said what? The data reflects that stopping and frisking people all over New York City doesn't make sense. Stop and frisk makes sense in places where violent gun crimes are occurring on a regular basis. You can't stop crime by stopping and frisking everybody who's going to, I don't know what's the highest in place in New York City. You're more likely to the Harvard Club on a random, you know, Friday. The crime is taking place in very significant known neighborhoods. That's where the resources need to go.
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Buck Sexton
I mean this is also stop. It's the real policy was stop questioning, frisk. They just stop and frisk to make it seem more arbitrary. But they would ask people questions and then if they thought they had a basis for the search, they would, they would pat them down. You know, I mean I get. You get patted down to go to the airport. I get patted down when I go into sports arenas. I get patted down when I go, when I've gone to certain bars actually, surprisingly enough. So, you know, I think that unfortunately the, the left won that argument and the Soros das got their way for a while and a lot more people died. It is, it is shameful that DC is as dangerous as it is. It is entirely in Democrat control. It is a 95% democrat voting city and it just doesn't have to be this way. And the people in charge should be ashamed. The people making these, you know, the prosecutors, the mayor, the head of the police force, they should feel ashamed of their inability to protect people who are paying high taxes, who are disarmed. By the way, you're not allowed. Only bad guys get to carry guns in DC. I remember this Clay when I was going up to train with, with D.J. shipley and his GBRS outfit that I was flying into Norfolk, Virginia and there's this one cop I talked to, he's like, be careful. You want to make sure you don't get flown into D.C. because of weather because they'll arrest you in the D.C. airport for having a handgun.
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Clay Travis
It's crazy.
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Buck Sexton
Even though I've checked it and it's, you know, I'm like, they would arrest me because. Oh yeah, no, they'll arrest you there. Shameless. Shameless. The gang bangers all can get guns in Virginia or wherever and just drive across the river. But they take law abiding citizens and they disarm them. So that's why Big balls has to step in with, you know, a mob of dangerous youth and just use his fist to defend a woman who's being carjacked. These kids wanted to steal a car and Ali producer Ali pointed this out the most, the most that a youth, a youth and a minor can be sentenced for a crime, even including murder is detention until 21 Clay. 17 year old murders somebody in D.C. most they can get detention center till they're 21 years old and you know who they're killing.
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Clay Travis
Unfortunately, by and large the data would reflect young black kids. So if you truly believe that black lives matter, right, the number one thing you could do is actually drive down the black murder rate. Most people won't even have that conversation because again, they're afraid of acknowledging that race is involved. When you look at the data and look, you know, who knows this? People who live in inner city neighborhoods. That's why they overwhelmingly did not support the idea of defunding the police. The people who wanted to defund the police, as you well know and many of you know, they all live behind gates with their own security forces, including this clown Mamdani, who had his own security force following him around everywhere in Uganda. These guys never give up their own personal security details while they're arguing that everybody else shouldn't have the police. That's the hypocrisy is pretty glaring.
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Clay Travis
Know when you're on The Go the Team 47 podcast Trump highlights from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app. We're joined now by the Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott. He has been in the midst of midst of a big battle. And Governor, I appreciate you joining us. Let's start with this. The redistricting that would potentially add five Republican seats has led to Democrats fleeing your state. Most of them, it appears, have gone to Illinois, which is among the most gerrymandered of all states. They have 14 Democrat seats, three Republican seats. Despite the fact that President Trump got around 45% of the vote there in 2024. Of all the places they could have run, that seems like a really interesting choice to have made. What's the latest you can tell us about them potentially having to come back and do their jobs as elected legislator members?
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Greg Abbott
Well, for one, you know, you just pointed out the hypocrisy of these Democrats. It's not just the hypocrisy of the Democrats in Texas. It's the hypocrisy of the Democrats in Illinois as well as across the entire country who are saying that Texas should not be doing this redistricting. When you look at Illinois, when you look at California, when you look at New York, when you look at Massachusetts, when you look at all the, all the blue states, that is the epitome of gerrymandering what the Democrats have done and what Texas is doing. We're just trying to draw lines to allow voters to vote for the candidate of the choice. Easy example. And that in each of these five seats that we're going to add, Trump won those five seats, the candidate of choice is Donald Trump and a Republican. Democrats have a problem in Texas because they think they had a, quote, ownership right to Hispanic and black voters. And now it turned out that Hispanic voters and black voters are voting Republican, not Democrat. So they have all kinds of problems. But where we stand procedurally in all of this, and that is that I took action yesterday in a proceeding to vacate or remove from office the leader of this runaway renegade group of Democrats and followed proceeding in the Texas Supreme Court. Texas Supreme Court immediately ordered the leader of the runaway Democrats, his name is Jean Wu, to file papers in the Supreme Court by Friday to respond to my allegations. Because we are seeking to remove him from office and to hold these people accountable. And because we cannot conduct business in the state of Texas because they've broken a quorum. And so for one, we're going to hold them accountable. For another, arrest warrants are out for all of them. And we're searching across the state of Texas to find out if there are any Democrats in the state of Texas. And if there are, we're going to be arresting them. And we will have Department of Public Safety officers working across the country to try to identify them. And know this, because I think the Democrats who are in illinois, New York, etc. Don't know this. And that is the FBI is out looking for them also. So we're going to track them down and get them back. But the last point is this. This is total futility by The Democrats, they've tried this before, multiple times since I've been governor. And what happens is a special session in Texas, last 30 days and they eventually have to come back. And when they come back, they'll be arrested, sent to the Capitol and we're going to get past what was on the agenda just like we have every other time.
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Clay Travis
Why do you think they're doing this? Like, let's pretend that you were not the governor of Texas trying to enact the law as you were elected to do. And instead you were trying to just sit out there and you're looking at this and you're saying, what is their game plan here? You just laid out why it's not going to work. What do you think they are thinking they are gaining from this?
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Greg Abbott
I don't think that they are thinking, to be honest.
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Clay Travis
That's a good, that's a good answer, by the way.
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Greg Abbott
The reality is they're losing bad from this and we've seen it happen before. I'll tell you what's happened in the past and why it's going to be repeated again. And that is everyone listening to this show. Not every, every average Texan in the state of Texas. They have to show up for work. And if they don't show up for us, I'm going to boycott today. I'm going to break quorum. I'm not going to go do my job. I'm going to leave and go to Illinois. They'd be fired. And so what these Democrats are doing, they're angering the average Texas voter, the swing voter, if you would, who thinks, well, they got to go to work, but these rogue Democrats don't have to go to work. And then to make this even more impactful against these Democrats, I called a special session which lasts 30 days, and I put 18 items on that session, the first of which were four items to deal with the tragic floods that took place in Central Texas, where we lost more than 100 Texans. They lost their life because of that flood. And we need remedies such as warning systems, other strategies for rivers and flooding. We need laws passed that will protect the lives of Texans in the future. And the reason why those laws are not being passed, the reason why the resources are not being provided to the fellow Texans who need those resources, is because Democrats are holed up in Chicago and New York and leftist states across the country.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott. One of the things that I think is a huge part of this story that isn't being talked about enough. And I'd like to get your reaction to this is one reason you can redraw congressional maps and redraw lines is because of the surge in Hispanic support for Republicans across the state of Texas. Some people out there on the left are saying, oh, this is racist. What it actually represents is the majority of Hispanics in Texas voted for Donald Trump. They're now voting for you. They are voting Republican. And it has fundamentally altered the map, including in particular down along the border in South Texas for people who may not know what has happened. What has the data shown about Hispanic voters, men in particular, but also a lot of women flooding in to support Republicans?
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Greg Abbott
Well, all you had to do was take a look at the map of Texas on the night of the presidential election and saw all of the counties on the border that Donald Trump won that had been blue for more than 100 years, and they were red under Donald Trump. But Clay, get this very important fact because this just obliterates any claim of racism. Let me tell you what these maps do. Four of the new districts we are creating are predominant Hispanic districts. And it just turns out they're Hispanic Republicans. But this is these are going to be Hispanic districts. And we preserve the Barbara Jordan district in Houston. Barbara Jordan was well known black member of Congress for a long time and her district had been broken apart. And we're putting it back together. We're restoring that district. And so any allegations about race playing a role adverse to Democrats here is nothing but just an outright lie.
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Clay Travis
Are you concerned at all you can make the right decision for Texas? I'm sure you've heard Gavin Newsom say, well, if this happens, we're going to do that in California. And Kathy Hochul in New York, the governor's there. I'm sure you know those guys and gals well. And JB Pritzker even said maybe we'll take away some. Are you concerned about other states responding to Texas? And how would you respond to governors there making those threats?
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Greg Abbott
Well, let's walk through that. For one, those states are so gerrymandered, it's hard to pick up any more seats. I think I saw in the map of Illinois of all the members of Congress, there are only three Republican seats left and it's so gerrymandered, I don't think they could rig it any more than they have right now in California. If I understand the facts correctly, Gavin Newsom is trying to place, I think, a constitutional amendment on the ballot that would allow them to take action. The point being that unlike in Texas. He, as governor, he doesn't have the unilateral authority to call for redistricting in Texas. We do. We don't have a commission here like they do in California. And so bottom line is this. They have. The Democrats have hurdles that may not be able to be cleared in order for them to be able to do any of their own redistricting.
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Clay Travis
What should we know? You mentioned that one of the reasons you're having this special legislative session was what happened with the flooding. What should this audience, both in Texas and certainly outside of Texas, know about the latest there and how things are going to be handled when it comes to that response?
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Greg Abbott
So with regard to what happened in the Kerrville area as well as many other areas in the state that got ravaged by flooding and where we lost so many lives, first, in the Kerrville area, we are still missing two people. I want everyone to know that we continue and will continue the search for the two people who remain missing. And we will be deploying new strategies to make sure that we're using every tool possible to find everybody who is missing. Second, after a disaster like this, there are several steps that have to be taken, and they're all being taken. One is to clean up the debris. The other is to begin the rebuilding process. Because of the generosity of so many of our fellow Texans and Americans, there is a lot of money available. Well, we're going to start working to immediately rebuild homes and get people back with a roof over their head. It could be rebuilding it from scratch. It could be making repairs to it. In that area, there were a lot of RV homes and those are being provided by Samaritan's Purse. And so we have so many organizations like that in addition to the resources the state has. But then in addition to that, we want to make sure that the state is passing laws and providing resources to make sure events like this don't happen again.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, much less significant. So we talked to redistricting, the battle there. We talked obviously, the flood, all of that. The Texas Longhorns are number one in the country and open the season on the road at Ohio State in about, I think, four weeks from when we're talking right now. Are the Longhorns the best team in the country?
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Greg Abbott
So I think the Longhorns have the best defense in the country, a lot of returners, and at every position, whether we on the line, they may have the best two defensive ends in the country, the best linebacking corps, the best defensive backfield. So their defense, which I think was ranked something like number third in the nation last year, is going to be very stout, very hard to score upon on offense. You know, there's a lot of new faces on the offensive line at quarterback. Obviously it's going to be the big debut of Arch Manning. And because the offensive line players, they played a lot of snaps and because Arch himself was able to play a lot of snaps, they have a sense of what to do. That said, as you know, if you go into the Ohio State Stadium and play a game there, it kind of doesn't matter who you are, that's a tough game. I will remind you of this, however, the last time that the University of Texas Longhorns played at the shoe at Ohio State, they won. They defeated Ohio State led by quarterback Vince Young. And we have a transformational quarterback like that in Arch Manning this year. And I think he's going to be able to go there, lead them to victory once again against an Ohio State team that itself is having to go through a rebuilding year.
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Clay Travis
No doubt, Governor, feel free. Come on anytime. We're different times of the year. Number one in Austin, number one in Houston. Highly rated all over your state. So we appreciate everybody out there listening in the Lone Star State. Good luck to the Longhorns and only about four weeks till football season gets rolling.
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Greg Abbott
Take care. Always great to visit with you. Thanks so much, Clay.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Our friend Miranda Devine joins. She is the New York Post columnist extraordinaire, Authority Laptop from Hell, among others and Pod Force One host and Miranda, as always, great to have you on the program.
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Miranda Devine
Great to be with you. Hope this sounds okay.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's Great. It's fantastic. So tell us this Comer. Let's start with this one. Comer's subpoenas for every attorney general that I think anybody can name going back 20 years, and also Hillary and Bill Clinton, all this stuff. Do you think this goes somewhere? Clay and I. I don't know if you heard any part of this, but we're both skeptical. But what do you think? What does this mean? What happens?
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Miranda Devine
Look, I mean, there's a lot of people trying to do a lot of things. So just setting Congress aside, because I think we've seen, you know, through the Biden administration, even when the Republicans did take the House for all their best efforts, it's pretty much a toothless tiger, unless it's in the hands of someone very Machiavellian like Nancy Pelosi, who manages to put people like Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro in jail for contempt of Congress. I don't know that the Republicans in Congress are quite that ruthless yet. But certainly Donald Trump and his, you know, Justice Department people, whether it be Pam Bondi or Kash Patel and then CIA Director John Ratcliffe, backed up by Chuck Grassley, the senator, who's been sort of the champion of transparency and whistleblowers forever, they are determined. They mean business. And I think that's backed by the fact that Donald Trump has a different attitude this term to his first term. He told me in an interview that he, yes, he did feel angry about these new revelations that Tulsi Gabbard has been tabling about the origins of the Russia hoax, about how Obama directed his national security intelligence people to concoct this intelligence that said that Putin favored Trump and that's why he won the 2016 election. That wasn't true. And it was just sort of a decoy from Hillary Clinton's problems and trying to salve Obama's ego, because Donald Trump's victory was a repudiation of his eight years. So all of that has made Donald Trump more determined. And he said in his first term he wanted to show mercy. He thought the country should heal. He. Even though his rallies, his supporters were saying, lock her up about Hillary Clinton, he figured, well, look, she's the wife of a former president. She's a former secretary of state. I just don't want to go after her and cause the country to be in turmoil and chaos. I just want to concentrate on fixing the economy, et cetera. Well, then in the ensuing eight years, look what happened to him. They targeted him with, you know, impeachments, the Russia hoax, lawfare assassination attempts, you name it, and he's still standing. The American people saw through it all. He won a comprehensive victory that they can't try and deal legitimized like they did in 2016. And now he wants accountability and he said so, and he's told all his people. And I think, I think his people want accountability. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel both have been targeted by the deep state by, well, in Tulsi Gabbard's place, allies of Hillary Clinton who wanted to get their revenge on her and put her on the Quiet Skies program. You have so many people within the Trump orbit who were targeted like he was and are victims of that deep state and are tougher and stronger as a result. So they are all on the same page. They want accountability and not about, you know, retribution and vendettas. It is about a deterrence. You can't trust these people not to do it again to the next Republican or MAGA president because the last time that Trump showed mercy, they just doubled down. So never again, I think, is the motto of the Trump administration.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to Miranda Devine, who was right on basically everything over the years. Let me ask you a big question here, Miranda. Let's pretend that Jeff Bezos called you. Let's pretend that whoever is the Salzburgers or whoever heck runs the New York Times now, those two entities gave themselves, through their friends in the media, Pulitzer Prizes. And I think as a result of awarding what has been proven to be legitimately untrue scoops that were given the highest order of award that can happen, they just refuse to acknowledge that everything they wrote about Russia collusion was wrong. I think if you look, Buck and I talked about this a little bit, Jason Blair, back in the day, the New York Times did a huge front page story when they realized that he was a fabulous, that he had made everything up. And they said, you know, we expect when we get things wrong, that we acknowledge that we got things wrong. What should the New York Times and the Washington Post do today? We all know they screwed up for a decade. If you were asked your best advice for those institutions based on the false reporting that they did surrounding Russia and.
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Miranda Devine
More, that's a really good example to use the Jason Blair example. Back in the day when these newspaper institutions were regarded as being the sort of pinnacle of journalism and everybody wanted to work there, well, I mean, I think they're too far gone. But, you know, if they wanted to try and clean house and make amends, they ought to start by giving back those dirty Pulitzer Prizes. I mean, the Pulitzer foundation ought to be rescinding them. But unfortunately, I think like the Nobel Prize, it's lost any cachet since they traduced it by giving it to undeserving people. The Nobel Peace Prize, remember, went to Barack Obama when he barely had his feet under the desk. And you know, Donald Trump, who did the Abraham Accords, it just was ignored. And the Pulitzers are the same. So I start by giving back the Pulitzers and then you do a comprehensive investigation of what went wrong and you do front page mea culpas. Chelsea Gabbard pointed out that these organizations, you know, whether it be the Times, the Post, The Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, they devoted something like 2,000 minutes to the Russia hoax. And so far they've devoted two minutes to collectively to the revelations of the last two weeks that show that this was a total hoax, a plan, a coup to bring down Donald Trump, to sabotage his presidency, to delegitimize his election victory and to sow discord with Russia. This was all Obama and Hillary Clinton and they sticked their, you know, CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey and James Clapper, the NSA guy. So all of that should be gone into with seven byline extravaganzas that they devoted to the original hoax. And it ought to be. They should be in sackcloth and ashes and they should fire people. They should humiliate former editors who've left for their so called leadership of that newsroom. I think, I mean, it's the only way that they could restore their reputations. But unfortunately, the way they've curated their audiences, I think they would lose subscriptions. I think their readers would go ballistic because they don't want to know the truth. They just stick their fingers in their ears and continue on blithely. You know, the Rachel Maddow is this patron saint of journalism we're speaking of Miranda Devine.
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Buck Sexton
Pod Force One is her podcast. And Miranda, I had the distinct honor and pleasure of getting to a segment with you on Will Kane show a couple of days ago. And you were fabulous, by the way. Just throwing that out there, as always appreciated. Getting to hang out with you and with Will is like a great, it was always a great time. But we were talking about this grand jury component of the Russia collusion, I guess now transparency effort that the administration is going through. I know that it's early and we don't really know, but what is your sense? Do you think that the administration is preparing for the possibility, at least politically, of indictments to come down against people like Brennan and Clapper. Or is that just way too far afield in your mind?
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Miranda Devine
No, I absolutely think that's the case. I mean, there are very smart prosecutors in the Department of Justice who are looking at this being creative. Look how creative the Biden Department of Justice was when they were coming after Donald Trump and various other of his allies. So there are multiple laws on the books, probably too many, and they can be employed and deployed in various ways to certainly bring charges against these coup plotters. And, you know, at first, John Ratcliffe, CIA director, kicks the ball rolling, I think, at the beginning of July with that review of the, you know, the bogus intelligence assessment. And he was talking then about perjury charges. And then, you know, there was talk that the statute of limitations will have run out, it's only five years. But then that, you know, certainly Brennan and some of the others may have also allegedly perjured themselves when they gave testimony to some of the Biden impeachment inquiries. And so which is more recent. So that was then. And now I think there's the whole conversation has moved on to looking at conspiracy charges. And as John Ratcliffe said just on Sunday to Maria Bartiroma that that conspiracy continued through to this day through the Biden administration and to this day. So I think, you know, they have a lot of leeway there to look at tying up a lot of people. And I'm hearing that there's more than one grand jury that they're contemplating, and paneling in Florida would be one, maybe in D.C. just ease of access for documents. And I think it's going to be a big issue. And why wouldn't it be? You know, you have the immense power of the federal government, Department of Justice, you now have Tulsi Gabbard, who's really relentless in pushing through any deep state obstruction she's getting from these agencies to get documents, and she's just referring them straight to the doj. So I think it's going to be fruitful for them. And as we've heard, I mean, James Clapper said himself, he's lawyering up. Jonathan Turley says that all of D.C. is lawyering up, and the lawyers are more than busy and some of them are having to lawyer up themselves. I think it's good.
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Clay Travis
And it's, you know, you're in a tough spot, Miranda, when your lawyer wants to get his own lawyer, that's, I always say, well, that's a, that's a tough Spot. Let me ask you this quickly. On the way out, I would say the number one concern of our audience is we've heard all this. It's a lot of, you know, flapping of the gum, so to speak, a lot of talk. It has never actually led to anybody being charged with crimes, not even talking about conviction. What do you think the chances are that there are people indicted for crimes and that there is in some way at least that or an arrest for crimes? If you were setting odds more or less likely than 50%, I'd say more.
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Miranda Devine
And in part, that's because exactly as you say, we're all cynical, we're all fed up. The boy has cried wolf a million times and nothing's ever happened. And so I think that that actually is an issue for Donald Trump with the loyalty of his base, because they're sick of promises, they're sick of being led down the garden path and nobody ever is brought to account. And therefore, the deep state, the bad guys, the wrongdoers, whatever you call them, the coup plotters, they just, they just get more and more emboldened. And it's very dangerous for the Republic. It goes beyond Donald Trump, it goes to the very survival of this country, that you cannot have this two tiered system of justice where one side gets just killed for the most minor issue and the other side gets away with murder, literally.
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Buck Sexton
Rand, appreciate you being with us. Thank you. As always.
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Miranda Devine
Thank you. Great to talk to you both.
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Buck Sexton
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