Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Dec 11 2025

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Daily Review with Clay and Buck – December 11, 2025

Overview

This episode, hosted solo by Buck Sexton (with Clay Travis in transit), offers a deep-dive into the major issues shaping American politics as the year nears its end. Buck leads a candid, energetic, and personal discussion focused on two principal topics: the state of the U.S. economy—especially affordability concerns—and the ever-controversial matters at the border and immigration policy under Trump’s second term. He analyzes policy, public sentiment, political strategy, and media narratives, weaving in listener perspectives and external expert commentary.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Economic Challenges: Affordability and The Political Stakes

• Affordability Crisis:

  • Buck highlights widespread concerns over high costs of living—particularly housing, healthcare, and education.
  • He traces persistent inflation and elevated prices back to COVID-era shutdowns, aggressive government spending, and monetary policy—decisions which both parties were involved in.
  • “It's really hard to bring down prices once they've gone up considerably. And this is a legacy of the madness of COVID...” (Buck, [05:36])

• Current Data and Trade Trends:

  • Buck plays a soundbite from CNBC’s Rick Santelli discussing the reduced trade deficit, noting “Trump is establishing a rebalancing of our global trade, America’s global trade, with the tariffs.” (Santelli via Buck, [06:40])

• Young Voters & Urban Politics:

  • Discusses the recent Democratic victory in downtown Miami—first time in 30 years—attributing it to younger voters frustrated with high living costs.
  • “Miami has become incredibly expensive as a city. It used to be a great deal… now, not so much.” (Buck, [07:40])

• Strategic Imperatives for GOP:

  • Buck stresses Republicans must craft and communicate clear solutions—not just blame Biden—for affordability and inflation, or risk losing the House, which would, he warns, “turn into impeachment number three, it will be a circus.” (Buck, [04:32])
  • Notable quote:
    “Republicans, where's the big legislation, guys? ...Where’s the new approach to healthcare? Got to get together on this one and make some things happen.” (Buck, [13:50])

• Expert View:

  • Former SEC chair Jay Clayton describes the affordability crisis as “the 22% increase in prices and inflation under Biden... that's the affordability issue, and you ought to be able to explain that.” (Clayton, [10:14])

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Healthcare Policy: The Unaffordable Care Act?

• Obamacare’s Real-World Impact:

  • Buck critiques Obamacare for increasing health care premiums and failing to make care more affordable.
  • Criticizes ongoing Senate debates about “dueling Obamacare plans,” including both GOP and Democratic proposals—with the Schumer bill set to extend ACA subsidies.
  • Explains how “your health care premiums…are going to subsidize illegal aliens who aren’t even supposed to be in the country.” (Buck, [23:00])

• Political Framing:

  • Lambasts Democratic naming conventions as misleading: “Democrats call it the Affordable Care Act, and it has… made healthcare far less affordable… just like the Inflation Reduction Act didn’t reduce inflation at all.” (Buck, [24:30])

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Conservative Media, Movement Unity, and Audience Matters

• Avoiding Right-Wing “Food Fights”:

  • Buck thanks the show’s audience for rising above petty infighting within conservative media, emphasizing the importance of focusing on defeating the left and promoting policy solutions over personality disputes.
  • “If you’re on my team for 90% or 95% of stuff, you’re on my team…” (Buck, [22:00])

• Rush Limbaugh’s Legacy:

  • Buck affirms Clay and his commitment to “authenticity… and integrity” on-air—a conscious continuation of Rush’s example. (Buck, [27:56])

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Immigration: Crisis, Policy, and Cultural Consequences

The Abrego Garcia Case and The State of Immigration Enforcement

• Overview of the Case:

  • Federal Judge Paula Xinis ordered ICE to release Kilmar Abrego Garcia, alleged MS-13 member, sparking outrage and concern for public safety.
  • Buck outlines the back-and-forth: deportation orders, Supreme Court involvement, and failed attempts to deport Abrego Garcia to third countries (including El Salvador and nations in Africa). (Buck, [41:05])
  • “This has turned into a huge political football.” (Buck, [05:54])

• Systemic Critique:

  • Buck argues that America’s immigration system is broken—both parties bear blame, but Democrats “are complete liars and frauds on immigration, top to bottom, 100%... half of Republicans… are pretty terrible too.” (Buck, [43:09])

• Stephen Miller’s Perspective:

  • Miller argues mass migration affects everything from education to crime rates:
    "If you subtract immigration out of test scores, all of a sudden our test scores skyrocket..." (Stephen Miller, [46:20])

• Political Stakes:

  • Warns that failure to fix illegal immigration will have dire, perhaps irreversible, effects, especially if Democrats regain the presidency: “If Trump can’t get this done with the House and the Senate, who’s going to reverse the flood?” (Buck, [52:12])

Broader Immigration Philosophy

• Trump on Immigration Origins:

  • Buck plays a clip of Trump:
    “Why can't we have some people from Norway, Sweden…But we always take people from Somalia. Places that are a disaster, right? Filthy, dirty, disgusting, ridden with crime…” (Trump, [48:08])

• Assimilation and Cultural Concerns:

  • Buck repeatedly insists that immigration policy should serve Americans’ interests, not function as a “global DEI crusade.”
  • He challenges simplistic “nation of immigrants” rhetoric, drawing comparisons with strict point-based systems like Canada’s.
  • Notable quote:
    “Are there incredible… Amazingly productive immigrants from all over the world? Of course. But policy has to be designed for what is generally true.” (Paraphrased from Buck’s discussion, [62:00])

• Media and Liberal Narratives:

  • Slams left-wing and liberal media for their naiveté or dishonesty about immigration history, especially regarding assimilation and crime data.
  • Explains European examples (Sweden et al.) where large numbers of poorly integrated immigrants have challenged social cohesion, and draws parallels to the U.S. (Buck, [59:30])

• English as a Unifier:

  • Buck calls for stronger action to establish English as the national language: “Everyone here should be able to speak English.” (Buck, [67:50])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the GOP’s Challenge with Affordability:
  “The power balance in D.C.…is going to be largely determined…by affordability and immigration. Election midterms, that’s going to move the needle.” (Buck, [12:40])

• On Conservative Movement Unity:
  “I think that you are people who come at this, this saving of the country, caring about the country with so much good faith and enough wisdom to know you don’t want your time wasted on petty nonsense.” (Buck, [21:00])

• On Obamacare’s Lasting Effects:
  “You with your tax dollars, but also more specifically…your health care premiums that you pay, are going to subsidize illegal aliens who aren’t even supposed to be in the country.” (Buck, [23:00])

• On the Grim Reality of the Immigration System:
  “Our whole immigration system has been turned into a massive scam and a third-world invasion of this country…taking advantage of the American people.” (Buck, [43:00])

• On Assimilation vs. Multicultural Policy:
  “A nation, at some level, is a people who come together around ideas and those shared things…But it is a people, meaning that it’s a place in time and a people in that place. You can’t just say all of you go over here to some other place and we’re going to replace all of you at once. And it’s the same country. That’s just not true.” (Buck, [68:22])

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Start of substantive content—Buck solo hosting, lays out main topics: [02:37]
• CNBC’s Santelli on trade numbers: [06:40]
• Former SEC Chair Jay Clayton on affordability crisis: [10:14]
• Healthcare costs, Senate votes, and the real impact of Obamacare (Un-Affordable Care Act): [23:00]
• Unity over petty fights in conservative media: [21:00]
• Buck pitches his book ‘Manufacturing Delusion’—the importance of recognizing propaganda: [26:32]
• Beginning of in-depth immigration discussion—Abrego Garcia case: [41:05]
• Stephen Miller on how immigration impacts all domestic policy: [46:20]
• Trump on immigration origin countries (Norway vs. Somalia): [48:08]
• Comparisons to European immigration problems: [59:30]
• Sweden as an assimilation case study: [61:45]
• Buck’s argument for English as a binding national language: [67:50]

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode’s tone is fluent, conversational, and impassioned, with Buck moving seamlessly between expertise, personal anecdotes, humor, and pointed critique. He emphasizes seriousness (“we are trying to save the country here”) but brings levity discussing his personal life and the show’s fate. The overall message is a call to strategic focus: do not become complacent, distracted, or divided—especially with economic uncertainty and immigration issues shaping the next election and the future of America.

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For New Listeners

If you’re new to the show or missed the episode:

• You’ll find a nuanced conservative take on the economy and immigration that goes beyond talking points.
• You’ll hear calls for unity and responsibility within conservative ranks.
• You’ll get both data-driven and philosophical arguments about why current economic and immigration policies matter for everyday Americans and for the long-term direction of the country.

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End of Summary

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Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. It kicks off right now. Mr. Clay is in transit so he is in the sky. I will be your solo pilot for the next three hours. My co pilot is on another plane, but we've got a lot to talk to you about. He'll be back tomorrow. We'll actually be together here in South Florida doing the show. And in the meantime, I want to bring you up to speed on all of the things that are happening out there right now. So many of them. So many things. So many things happening. You have DHS Secretary Noem up on Capitol Hill. You have business leaders talking to Trump about the state of the economy and this affordability question. Some people are concerned, and I mean people on our side, capitalists, reasonable, intelligent people concerned about how things are looking going into the end of the year here and what it will mean for the midterms. Now, for those who are saying the concern should be fix the economy, not the political consequences of problems in the economy, well, let me tell you something. It's getting a lot worse. If Democrats can throw sand in the gears of the Trump administration, if they can play spoiler just by having a majority in the House, we will get to impeachment number three, it will be a circus, the whole thing. So it is important that we get into a good place here and also that the Trump administration continues to tell everybody what the plans are. More on immigration and ICE enforcement as well. We've got some important sound to share with you. Some, some clips to share with you on that. I'm going to start off actually with a little bit of talk on the economy. There's, there's news today that we will dive into shortly about a federal judge now saying that Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the alleged Ms. 13 gang member, who for over a year now has been at the center of all these administration efforts to deport this guy. And it's, it's turned into a huge political football. This has turned into a Supreme Court weighing in. Guy got sent to El Salvador. We're going to send him to a bunch of other countries, but then we can. And now you got a federal judge saying you got to let him out right now. So we will see. And that's going on while DHS Secretary Noemi is up on Capitol Hill. So that's certainly in our sights and an important story. Let's though just for a bit here, talk about where we stand on the economy. People are concerned and I hear that concern from many of you that prices are quite high. And I understand the challenge here is it's really hard to bring down prices once they've gone up considerably. And this is a legacy of the madness of COVID I think everyone should Keep that in mind. That many of us. Well, not many. Some of us. There were even some conservatives who were pretty bad on the COVID stuff, especially on on lockdowns. And all the rest of it were saying you can't just tell people, stay home, don't do anything and print money. And then you can't just spend as much money as you want to juice the economy after that shutdown. Unfortunately, that is largely what happened and we are still dealing with the reality of that. Now I will give you some of these details or we will discuss some of these details. But first up here, CNBC. This is cut 11, Rick Santelli. He's talking some numbers talking trade deficit. Let's hear from the man over at CNBC. Play it. Trade balance minus 52.8 billion. That's a better lower trade deficit than we expected. We were looking for a number closer to 62 billion. And that follows a revised minus 59 billion. Minus 52 billion would be the lightest going back to. Wow, we're really going back. Well, my records go back to 1992 and to find a smaller number, the -52 billion. We're all the way back to June of 2020. So this is important because Trump is establishing a rebalancing of our global trade, America's global trade, with the tariffs. And as I've said all along, you don't have to be an expert in tariffs to understand that something is up when all of these other countries have tariffs on us. We don't have tariffs on really anyone. And we're the ones who can't figure this out. Or you know, we're the odd man out, but it's cuz we're so much smarter than every other country. Or is it because we've been convinced by the globalist elite in our own country that entirely free trade, that does not take an America first perspective that allows all the offshoring and all the stuff that we have seen decimate the American, for example, American manufacturing sector, auto industry, all these things that that is somehow to our benefit. Well, it's really to the, perhaps the stock price benefit of a handful of companies. But people are changing their tune on this. They're seeing what's really going on. Um, but the problem is prices. The problem is that stuff is still expensive and people are upset about it. In fact, even here in my home, well, I live in Miami beach, as you know, and that's next door to Miami. I didn't even know this until I moved down here. Technically, different cities, they're not part of one city. And so Miami proper just elected downtown Miami, elected a Democrat for the first time in 30 years. And it was a combination of two things that we're going to have to really get right for the next year for the purposes of the midterm election, but also just because they will be central, I think, to the success or failure of the Trump agenda in his second term. Cost of stuff, particularly housing. Young people came out. Miami has become incredibly expensive as a city. It used to be a great deal. I mean, if you, if you were smart enough to come here in 2009, 10, and start buying up some condos, you've done phenomenally well. Now, not so much. But the price of things, especially housing in Miami is very high. So that factors in. We saw this also in New York City, when you have mamdaniism largely built around the promise of bringing housing prices down, it was going to bring the cost of rent down. Now, if you know anything about economics, you know that his solutions to these problems will actually make things worse. But they sound good, and you can get a lot of power by saying things that sound good, no matter how bad the results are actually going to be. One of the issues we're gonna have is that going into a midterm year. Right. It's. We're, we're at the end of year one of Trump's second term.

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A lot of us can point to the status of the Biden economy and what was going on, but that is not going to be compelling enough to win in key in challenging races. Former SEC chair Jay Clayton had this to say about the economy. I thought you should hear this. This is cut 12. The affordability issue is from the 22% increase in prices and inflation under Biden. There's just full stop right there. That's the affordability issue. And you ought to be able to explain that. That's right. And look, I think that with the economic team, President Trump and the economic team led by Scott Benson, you have people who very much understand this. And it was a. They were, they were thrown. You know what I would say the worst economy for the average American in my adult lifetime in terms of the, like you said, the incredible increase in prices at the household. This is true and the case has to be made, but it is not sufficient on its own. All of you who call in, write in and say, hey, guys. Hey, Clay. Hey, Buck. This stuff is just too expensive. Where I am, particularly healthcare, housing, education, these things are just. The prices are out of control in some aspects. Depends on the product. But groceries, gas prices are down. But many of you and the truckers out there, we love our truckers are saying diesel prices are still considerably higher than we would want to see them for a robust economy. Spending at Christmas time. I've seen some of the data on this one. Spending at Christmas time seems to be quite a bit down. People are not shelling out the kind of cash that they did even compared to last year. Now, I think there was tremendous ebullience about the economy because of Trump's victory. So that explains in part why last year people were spending cuz they thought, oh, we're going to have a good economy. And they were right. But now it's twofold. The challenge ahead on prices, affordability, a word I'm as I've said along, you have to prepare yourself to hear about this more than any of us are going to want to. But the power balance in D.C. and therefore the future of the country for the next few years is going to be largely determined. I think based upon that, the two big issues, it's going to be the affordability and immigration. Election midterms, that's what's going to, that's what's going to move the needle. And this is Republicans are seeing this early enough. Thankfully, I'm not having this talk with all of you in August of the election year or September of the election year. Hey Republicans, it's time to make the case. I think they're actually seeing this in advance and they have Scott Bessen, who is both very good at the job of Treasury Secretary and a very good spokesman for what this administration, the treasury, the economy, the Fed, all of this is doing. He's a very good mind, a very good mouthpiece on these issues. But this is what Democrats are going to hammer. They're going to hammer the discontent of the prices. Isn't this the most classic move that the Democrats could possibly come up with? They made it so prices get all jacked up. We told them don't. We said don't do it. This is going back to 2021. We said don't do it, guys. It's crazy. Don't spend the trillions. We've already put a lot, a lot of pressure, a lot of heat into the economy with all the shutdown spending. And that was under Trump. But that was both sides were saying, oh, the world's gonna end. And you know, the whole thing, Trump left it to the states whether to stay open or not. And with the exception of Florida, states generally did not stay open South Dakota stayed open, but there's not very many people in South Dakota. So that was easier. Most states shut down, as you know. And so we had to do something. There was that whole emergency. But now telling people that the worst inflation in 40 years started four years ago is not really a winning strategy. Right. Or in five years ago. Whatever it's, that's not enough. I think that unfortunately is going to be insufficient as part of the narrative. Which brings me to the solutions and the things that Trump and his team are trying to do. Look at what has happened on trade alone. That's why I started with that. Look at where he is on tariffs. They said the so called intelligentsia, Trump's going to crash the economy based on the tariffs. He's going to mess everything up. No, in fact, the economy, the stock market has been booming, but prices have remained high. The only way to bring prices down is, well, if we want to get really technical about it. Technical about it, you got to see a, you can have a cessation of demand or you could have an increase in supply, but the best thing that we could see is an increase in efficiency of manufacturing of goods and services and, you know, and spending and investment. And that's what will bring prices down. Mandates the Mamdani approach. Price controls. Price controls not only have made New York City and the whole state of California, but because of government regulation, but price controls in New York City have made real estate far more expensive. Anywhere where they try this, it makes real estate more expensive. And overall price controls in the economy is part of what has destroyed a large part of what destroyed the Venezuelan economy. I mean, there's many things, but price controls is at the heart of it. Oh, we're just going to seize assets and then we can't make this stuff. We're going to seize the factories. Right. This is the Maduro approach. We'll seize the factories and we'll make the stuff, but we can't make much money off of it and we're not very good at making it. So we'll just say it has to cost this. Well, that doesn't work that way because you can't make them at that price. So guess what happens? Shortages. And then the black market comes in with the real price. And all of this is very well established, but the Trump team has to get very dialed in. On here is, yes, talk about what the Biden inflation was and that's why I played that former SEC chair. Talk about what the Biden inflation was, but also how it is coming down, how it is being addressed and how it is going to get better over the next year year because of what Trump is doing. Republicans got to focus in on this because it is not an overstatement to say if we have a weak year of not just policy but a weak year of messaging. And I'm going to say Republicans, where's the big legislation, guys? Ah, the big beautiful bill. Ok, it's a spending bill. Where's the legislation? Where's the, you know, the new approach to health care? Got to get together on this one and make some things happen. If you lose the House and you're Donald Trump, then it just turns into, all right, we gotta wait for the next election. We gotta wait for the, you know, the heir apparent of the Republican Party to take over for MAGA because the Democrats will just tilt. They will, what's the phrase, cut off their nose to spite their face. I mean they will just make everything stink and then blame it all on Trump. And you know that. So economy, economy, economy. Very, very important. And we will talk about immigration here shortly in the Abrego Garcia order that has come down. Want to talk to you about Sabre Sabre makes world class non lethal self protection tools. They also happen to make the number one pepper spray projectiles trusted by law enforcement. 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A candle on the Menorah or placing Baby Jesus in the Nativity, we hope your holiday is full of grace, wonder and love. And maybe even a little snow. Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah from all of us at the Clay and Buck show almost in the middle of December. I can't believe it. Christmas gonna be here before you know it, you know, my wife's birthday is Christmas, so I can do the two for one on the presents. I'm just saying I got that going for me, which is nice. And then my birthday's a few days later on December 28th, so I will not be on air that day. But I will be turning, I am not kidding, I forget right now, 44. I'll be 44 years old. As the gray in my little kind of almost, almost beard is indicating I'm getting older. But I'm very excited for the Christmas season. I've got my in laws here. Actually right now I'll be seeing more and more family and I'm sure many of you will too, and that's fantastic. So on the one hand, I am in a really good mood and I think that it has been a great year. I've had a great year. I've loved doing this show. And we'll talk more about this next week. In the last couple of days, I'm live on the air with you. It's been a great year for this program and we're so thankful for all of you, honestly, who listen and who are with us through this. I feel blessed that I get to do this show every day. I love my job. There is no other job that I would rather have than this job, which is an incredible thing to be able to say. And I say that as somebody who was asked at one point to maybe have a cabinet level position in the government, I still would rather do this job, you know, full stop. I love what we get to do here, but there's a responsibility with that as well. Of course, not just to do the best show possible, but to try to help, help save the country in what little way we can. There's so many competing voices out there. And that then brings me to the. I keep calling it the food fight. You know, there's all this stuff that's happening right now and I'm not even sure how many of you are aware of it. You know, you haven't brought it up very much. And I always tell you this, your calls, your emails, even the ones that don't make it on the air, the team reads them. Clay and I read them. So we have an ongoing conversation every day. All the VIP emails, all the talkbacks, and even if you don't get on the air, but you call in and you talk to, usually it's producer Greg to come on live on the show. He tells us what you were going to say so we know where you are. As much as we can. And we're always trying to be up, up on your thoughts on how the country is going. And we haven't seen very much of, hey, where are you on the food fight? And, you know, I really appreciate that and I like it because there is a decency and a maturity in this audience that is, I think, second to none in the entire world of media, but also in, certainly in conservative media. I think that you are people who come at this, this saving of the country, caring about the country with so much good faith and enough wisdom to know that you don't want your time wasted on petty nonsense. Petty nonsense. So, and Clay and I talk about this, you know, because we see what's going on out there and we choose not to get into the, into the mudslugging and everything else. Some of these are people that are involved that we like. Some of them I don't even really know. Some of them I don't want to know. It doesn't really matter. I'm telling you about all this one, just so you know that we're, we're for any of you who are asking, why haven't you gotten into. We're trying to save the country here. And I don't say that to be grandiose or, you know, we're trying to get as many people as informed, as fired up, as engaged and get more people. We want more young people. We want digital audience too. We want YouTube subscribers. We want, you know, as well as our fantastic 560something stations. Who's counting? We are, but we want to focus on what really matters here. And I just want to say, I think it is to your tremendous credit that you want to as well, because we're not getting a lot of, we don't get a lot of chirping at us about, well, what about this crazy thing that this lunatic said, you know, yeah, we make fun of the left and the Democrats who say things, but we, I don't, I don't get into squabbles with people on the right. If you're on my team for 90% or 95% of stuff, you're on my team as it, as it pertains to policy, as it pertains to saving the country. And I just think that you give us the latitude and the leeway to continue to focus on what matters. Which brings me to. We are in a real fight here for the stuff that is affecting you every day. And I think we're, we're losing. And when I say we, the Republicans are losing a little bit of ground on this right now. How many even knew about this? That there are competing Obamacare plans being voted on right now in the Senate? In fact, I think the Republican one just right Producer Alley just got voted on and failed. Now of course, of course it failed. That's not the surprise. But they need to be talking about what's involved here. And now we've got these, these different plans. This is the stuff that really affects your day to day life. You're talking to me about prices. Everyone needs to understand Obamacare, which was passed with a Senate super majority, right? Remember the disaster of the McCain 2008 campaign and a huge recession and you know, the Great Recession. All this stuff they had wide open, wide open pathway to slam through whatever they wanted essentially. And this is what they did. They pushed this reorganization of health care that has really put us on a glide path to single payer. And it's a glide, I shouldn't say glide path. It's more like a train that has gone off the tracks and is eventually going to like implode. Right. But, but they know that that's what has happened. There's nothing gliding about this. It's not nice because the failures that occur along the way, your family's health care premiums, the cost that you are paying every time you go to the doctor, every time you're going to have an elective surgery or an emergency surgery, whatever it may be, all of that is worse now than it was before they passed Obamacare. And you with your tax dollars, but also more specifically, specifically with your health care premiums that you pay are going to subsidize illegal aliens who aren't even supposed to be the country in the first place. That's happening. They can pretend it's not happening. It absolutely is happening. Because the whole premise of this is that people are going, people with more, you know, this is from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs played out via healthcare. And it's a disaster for all of us because it's not increasing. I said how do you deal with costs? How do you make stuff cheaper, make more of it, make it more efficiently, put more out there, do it better or you have shortages. Especially with something like healthcare. What they've really done actually is incentivize people who have care to use more of it, irrespective of the outcomes. The insurance companies get rich on this because they have guaranteed customer bases now who have no choice and no say. The whole thing is an absolute mess. And how many People right now even know about the dueling Senate bills. And the Schumer bill is going to just extend the Affordable Care subsidies. First of all, isn't it funny? Notice a trend here. Democrats call it the Affordable Care act, and it has without question. There is no counter argument here rooted in numbers and reality. Okay? It has made health care far less affordable. Premiums are up 100, 150%. You want to talk about prices, that's something you're going to be paying every month. That affects, by the way, the bottom line. If you own a business or you work for a business, that is affecting everything because you're expected to, you know, you gotta have this stuff or you're gonna go bear. And then you're just gonna deal with the realities of the healthcare system as somebody who's not an illegal alien, but doesn't have insurance, but could have insurance. And the whole thing is a mess. So what the Democrats want to do is extend the subsidies. Yeah, it is the Unaffordable Care act, and that's the truth. Just like the Inflation Reduction Act. Remember, under Biden, they passed the Inflation Reduction act didn't reduce inflation at all. If anything, it increased inflation. And the whole bill really wasn't about inflation anyway. They lie. It is straight out of News Speak from Orwell. It is straight out of the propaganda playbook. By the way, great time to check one portion of Manufacturing Delusion that really the book is in, is in thirds. It's brainwashing. It's indoctrination. It's propaganda, and it's stories and hit stories from my life and history about these things. So the back third of the book is about propaganda. Go buy this book, Manufacturing Delusion. I really mean this. It is worth all of you reading. And you know, I would not say that people say, buck, you've been doing this 15 years. Why haven't you written a book before? Because I wanted to write a book that I cared about. I was gonna write it. I had the time to write it, and I had the ability to make the book matter because of this platform, because of this radio show, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show, which I share with my main man who's up in the sky right now on a plane. He's okay. But Clay, that gives me the ability to have the critical mass where it's. It was worth the time because I didn't want to do the like, oh, I am defeating the libs. Buck's way to defeat the libs and, you know, and pay someone else to write Some book that I'm going to. Then hawk, and I'm sorry, you know, I don't call out names. People do their own thing, but they're just saturating the. Saturating the conservative book market with forgettable, you know, slop written by somebody else. That's what's been going on in recent years. It's just the truth. You know, it. I researched, I wrote, I put this book together because I think it matters. I think that the manipulation of minds to political ends, the creation of mass delusion, the playbook to do it, is the scariest thing we face. Yes, Covid, of course, is a type of. Or the, you know, the pinnacle example that comes to mind for many. But there's so many examples of this that play out. There are so many aspects of this in our politics today. People believe in all kinds of insane stuff, you know, and we are increasingly in a world where, you know, if you're not saying the most inflammatory, conspiratorial people think that, you're, like, a sellout. Well, what I always want to say to people is, how often are we wrong on this show? How often have I had to come to you or Clay and say, look, we make predictions, and we like to joke around about that, Although a lot of our predictions, you know, end up coming true. So. But. But I'm talking about telling you something that is fact or that we know to be true. And then we go, actually, we really. We missed that one in a big way. We tell you, we speak to you on this show in the same way and with the same respect that I speak to my closest friends and my family members about these issues. Again, that is our currency with you, that authenticity, that integrity that we bring to the show. I do it, and Clay does it. And this is honestly why we get along so well on the air and off the air, because we are completely united in that mission. And, yes, it's the continuation, it's the. The honoring of Rush's legacy, because Rush did that before. But that's what all this is supposed to be about. It's not supposed to be people who are just, you know, sniping at this person or that person with little things on. On Twitter and. And getting all nasty with each other. And you're. You're fake. You're a fed. You're. You know, no, guys, the communists want to ruin the country. Do you understand? They still want to do this. And I know that we've had a year where it feels like we're winning, but that can Change in the blink of an eye. It can change in the blink of an eye. And then all of a sudden you want to talk about having a rough go of things. A fractured right with an ascendant lunatic. AOC Mamdani. Left is a very scary country for us. So again, how do we get there? How can people believe this? The book, Manufacturing Delusion. Manufacturing Delusion is the book. Please go. And I know you say, oh, Buck, I'm going to wait, no, just go get it now. And then February, it'll arrive at your front door on the day of. I'm also there. You can get the audio book, too, by the way. I'm going to be recording that in a couple of weeks, but that'll be out on. The Release date is February 17th. I really want all of you to get the book, and I truly mean that. I don't know if I'm ever going to write a book beyond this. I don't know. This one took me two years and it's not long. You can read the whole thing. It is not a long book either. I think it matters and I want you to read it. And you can get. There's a link up atclay and buck.com, but please go get the book. Because like I said, this is this show. The things that we do are supposed to have purpose. And it's beyond ego and it's beyond self congratulation. And a lot of the stuff that I see going on with the right these days, we got to fix health care, we got to fix costs, we got to fix inflation. We have to not just secure the border, we got to ramp up these deportations way more than what we've already seen. I know they're working on that, but we have to stay focused. Now is not the time to get into intramural squabbles and lose sight of what really matters. And to that end, I will come back and discuss the Abrego Garcia and just the overall immigration enforcement picture because like I've said, economy, it's going to be number one the next 12 months. I'm telling you, this economy and how we talk about it and what happens is critical. But also, yeah, the border secure. What do we do about all the people who are here illegally and what that has done to our system? All right, two weeks from today is Christmas Day. That's enough time for you to do something really creative for your family. Hear me out on this, because I know Clay and I are saying, oh, gifts. Well, yeah, but that's. That's getting somebody a leather belt for the fourth year in a row. Not that anybody would do that, but maybe that's happened to one of us. That's like a gift that doesn't have any thought behind it. What about a gift that has tremendous thought behind it that brings you to a place where you can enjoy cherish memories with family members and also you enjoy the whole process because it makes you think about it. You sit down with your family, oh, look at this VHS tape. Remember this, this school play? Remember this family reunion Legacy box. 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Let's jump into the biggest immigration story today. A federal judge has ordered. Ordered President Trump, well, the Department of Justice to release Kilmar Abrego Garcia from ice, Immigration and Customs Enforcement from ICE custody. This is Judge Paula Zinnis. X I N I S I guess. Yeah. So he is supposed to be released immediately. T monitor this one for me. Let me know if in fact he does get released immediately. I have a, I have a feeling the administration is going to say, not sure that's how this is going to go. We'll see. But this has been quite a story and the Democrats are going to continue to push very hard on this. Let's just take a little, a little trip down memory lane, shall we? This guy, Abrego Garcia, he is the alleged MS.13 gang member who had an order of deportation against him at some point, wasn't deported, fighting his deportation, all this stuff. And on March 15th of this year, he was sent from the US to El Salvador where he was detained in the Seacot, the Center for Terrorism Confinement. And the Supreme Court weighed in on this one and I believe it was nine. Oh. And they said, look, you guys, you can't just remove this guy to El Salvador. And this removal to El Salvador was illegal. So the US Then brought him back in. The Trump administration brought him back in. They there's now all this legal wrangling about is he a member of Ms. 13, is he not? Abrego Garcia says he is not a member of Ms. 13. Now that matters because that gang has been designated a foreign terrorist organization. So from a legal perspective, the Trump administration seeks to treat or now does treat at some, in some ways, Ms. 13, like Al Qaeda. And this guy is now supposed to be released. There was one point at which, at which the Trump administration was trying to remove him to Liberia, Uganda, Ghana or Eswatini. I gotta tell you, we're getting really deep into geography knowledge here with that one. That's one of these really tiny countries in Africa. There's some very, very small countries in Africa that are not well known. And yeah, he was not removed to those countries, but that was what was happening. Here's what's at issue with all of this. There has been, there's going to be the continued legal fighting over this and is there a detainee order. Our whole immigration system has been turned into a massive scam and a third world invasion of this country as a result of the misleading of the American people, the taking advantage of the American people and has been largely bipartisan. Democrats have been complete liars and frauds. On this top to bottom, a hundred, 100% of Democrats are terrible on immigration and half of Republicans, I would say in the 21st century, roughly half of Republicans are, are pretty terrible on immigration. I think that would be fair. May. You know, in recent years the numbers changed a lot because of Trump. But if you were to take this all the way back to say the year 2000, you take this back to the, the Bush era. Republicans have been bad too. So this has been a huge, huge issue. And a little bit like where we are with the debt. And I'm not somebody who traffics in despair on this program. Quite the opposite, right? We talk about the problems, we also talk about the solutions. We look at what's gone wrong. We never forget what's going right. But the immigration situation is a bit like our, for our soon to be $40 trillion of debt, it is massive, it is affecting everything. And I don't know if we're going to be able to fix it, this is just the truth. We're going to try. I certainly am advocating for it. But you hear people like Stephen Miller, who knows this issue and is of sound mind on this issue at the absolute peak. I mean, he's like at the top of his game on immigration. This is cut 16. He's pointing out that this issue of immigration, and more specifically legal immigration, it is messing up everything in this country. You cannot bring tens of millions. We don't know the number, I would guess. See, whatever I say, you're going to say, buck, how could you? It's more or it's less. Most of you would say, I think there are 20 to 30 million illegals in the country right now. 20 to 30 million. And I don't think that's even. I think that's like definitely 20, 25, and maybe it's 30, 35. It's a lot. It's a lot. Tens of millions, for sure. The number they were telling us it's 11 million. Please. They let 10 million in under Biden and they're planning to never leave. So we know. We know we're in the 20s. I think we're in the 30s. Some of you are going to say, buck, we're in the 40s maybe, but it's definitely 20s, 30s, millions that we're talking about here. And this is Stephen Miller on what a big issue it is. Place 16. We mask the impact of immigration. Every public policy issue we discuss, we talk about test scores. If you subtract immigration out of test scores, all of a sudden our test scores skyrocket. If you subtract immigration out of health care, all of a sudden we don't have nearly the size of the health care challenges our country faces. If you subtract immigration out of public safety, all of a sudden we don't have violent crime in so many of our cities. Issue after issue, we talk about these things as if they just happen to us. The schools just suddenly fail. Violent crime just suddenly explodes. The deficit just suddenly skyrockets. These are a result of social policy choices that we made through immigration. It's all true. It's all true. Now, the way that this issue has been. And this is why the Abrego Garcia thing, isn't it fascinating? Democrats, aclu, these types. Oh, my gosh. Anything to keep Abrego Garcia in this country. This guy's an illegal. He's been accused of crimes. He's illegal. He should go. Whatever it is they wanted, whatever it is they have to do. They will do. The left, the Democrats will do to keep illegals in this country. They want to keep them all. If they could keep them all, they would keep them all occasionally. And they'll say, what about Obama and all this? Yeah. In order to fool just enough people to stay in power, Democrats will occasionally go through a period of, oh, you know, you're right, this is a problem. Oh, maybe we should. And what Obama did was change the definition of a deportation such that people who were caught and turned away immediately at the border, they counted as a deportation. So they were, they were juicing the numbers there, but they were also doing that so they could create the political momentum with the Gang of Eight bill, with the, with the gang, the Senate Gang of eight. They were trying to create the political momentum for a mass amnesty, which is, and by the way, that's game over. Do you know that the Reagan amnesty, the worst thing that Reagan did when he was president was the amnesty they did under Eisenhower, the deportation operation they ran, I think it was over a million. It was like 1.2, 1.3 million in one year deported. And that was in 1950 something. So we've been here before and the country at some points has said, you know what, this is crazy, you gotta go, you gotta go. Also note, people act like it's so, oh, you've been in America for a year or three years or whatever it may be, the notion of going back to the country you lived in your whole life until you snuck into this country, it's so horrible, it's so unthinkable. What does that mean? Well, actually, it's interesting. Trump is just saying stuff out loud that you're, you're not supposed to say, you're not allowed to say, but we say it now. There are countries that people want to live in and countries that are crappy. This is true. There are cultures that produce countries where people live in security, prosperity, able to achieve some degree of, of, you know, of relative happiness. And, and there are countries where that's just not, not going on at all, where people live a far more Hobbesian, you know, life is brutish, nasty and short. Hobbesian existence. And Somalia is at very, very high on that list of, of what Hobbes would say. That's a rough place. Here is Trump saying, you know, we should be bringing in more people from countries that produce extremely law abiding, extremely high productivity, aligned with our values, immigrants. That's what we should be doing. This is cut 15. This is what Trump says We had a meeting and I say, why is it we only take people from whole countries, right? Why can't we have some people from Norway, Sweden, just a few. Let us have a few from, from Denmark. Do you mind sending us a few people? Send us some nice people. Do you mind? But we always take people from Somalia. Places that are a disaster, right? Filthy, dirty, disgusting, ridden with crime. The only thing they're good at is going after ships. You can tell Trump, not a fan of Somalia. It's definitely seen Black Hawk Down a few times. Not a fan of Somalia. And a lot of Somalis aren't either. You know, we talk about the Somali population here in Minneapolis. There's a tremendous amount of displacement of Somalis into Kenya, which is right next door, which is still a country with a lot of, tremendous amount of crime, unfortunately, a lot of problems, but functional country. Notice though that it's, you're not supposed to say we want people from happy, good countries. And you say, well, hold on, I thought our immigration system. We were, we have been told all this time that we're taking the next founder of Google and we're, this is, you know, immigration, doing the jobs Americans won't do and we're a nation of immigrants. You have hear all this propaganda, all this stuff all the time. It's supposed, the system is supposed to benefit the people. Here is the system. Is our immigration system in the 21st century benefiting those who are already here on a aggregate, you know, net net on an aggregate basis or have we turned into a immigration from third world countries welfare ward that we constantly are lied to? And because most of the very poor countries in the world, this starts to get into other conversations about immigration and about the nation state. Most of the very poor countries in the world are non white countries. And so when you start to look at countries that you don't necessarily want to take a lot of immigrants from because they're going to have. Again, this is just objective stuff. It's not about not liking the way someone looks. It's not about judging someone because of their skin color. It's. We're making policies to benefit Americans. If you're taking people from countries with high levels of crime and, or terrorism, low level of education, do not speak English and have no, you know, cultural tie or affinity to America other than we're really rich here and they get to be safe and get free stuff. And then of course, as soon as possible, start voting in the directions that will undermine all of that, right? Start voting for socialism, start voting for Islamism. Start voting for whatever. We are told that that's not what's happening, but that has been happening and people are allowed to notice that and be upset about it. And the American people are allowed to say this bait and switch cannot happen anymore. Where you say it is to our benefit, but really it is part of some global DEI crusade of we need to have the most non white immigration possible. And look, there are a lot. There are plenty of countries that are non white countries that are wonderful places. People are doing great. You know, I know everyone always is attacking Japan, for example, for its lack of, you know, replacement. They gotta have more kids. That's true. But it's an amazing. Taiwan, which I just came back from, is an amazing country, phenomenal in so many ways. Wonderful people, incredibly smart, incredibly civilized. And, you know, there are many, many others. There are a lot, lot of great countries all around the world. Our immigration system is absolutely not set up to prioritize those people. We say the reality of immigration is kind of the way. If you had like a, you know, a Gavin Newsom voting California, you know, wine swilling lib, you know, with the chardonnay glass and, oh, let's, let's take as many people from war torn. Fill in the blank as possible because that'll make me feel I'm going to live in Beverly Hills, but it'll make me feel good about myself to say that we're going to take as many people from. What do they call it in Team America? Durka, Durkistan. Right? To take as many people from whatever country is some jihadist hellhole of the moment or whatever, going through some famine or civil war, supposed to have a very small percentage of asylum seekers. Look what happened. These millions and millions of people came in. They're all say they're here for asylum. They're not here for asylum. They're here for the spoil system. Can we get enough of them to actually go back to their home countries that America can be saved? This is the question. This is where we are and certainly where the Trump administration is on this. But I'm. Is it too late? We'll see. What do you think happens if a Democrat wins the next election? They're going to open the floodgates again? Of course. Of course they are. If Trump can't get this done with the House and the Senate, who's going to. Who's going to reverse the flood? I. We need to talk about this. We have to be honest about this. All right? This holiday season, think food. 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And I just want to point out, whenever you start to hear a liberal talk about this country and they're the worst on guns. This is just kind of funny for those of you, which is pretty much not all of you, but a vast, vast majority of you who are gun people. Democrats will speak about guns and it's like their first day of learning Mandarin Chinese. Like they just know nothing and they don't care. They know nothing. They'll talk about chainsaw, bayonets and machine gun, flamethrower, you know, laser pods. They just have no idea. They just know. They want to ban them. They want to take them from you and everything else. When they talk about the history of immigration, they also have no idea. They don't know what they're talking about. And they leave out very Key things, things that we need to know today and we need to have people familiar with in order to have reasonable immigration policy going forward. And I think we've reached a point in America where the foreign born population is too high, meaning that we need to slow things down. It's not a knock on anybody who's an immigrant legally. It's not a knock on anybody's background who's an immigrant, or anyone's religion or skin color who's an immigrant. It's just, okay, the history of America and its immigration policies has been we take in a bunch of people and then we say, okay, we need to let everyone do the America thing for a while here. And then, all right, we take in a bunch of people and then we say, hold on a second, it's time to let everybody get to know each other. Americanize the new arrivals. And this is now something you can talk about. You couldn't even say this stuff really 10, 15 years ago without, oh my gosh, how could you? Look what's happening in Europe. You have large constituencies, including of, of asylum seekers or refugees in European countries who make it very explicit they hate the country. That I mean, when I say hate it. They love the welfare, they love that they're now safe and fed and warm and housed and all of that courtesy of the host country. But they despise the beliefs and the people and the culture and everything else. You have this in the uk, you have this in Sweden, you have this in the Netherlands, you have this in Belgium, you have this in France, you have this in Spain. You know, you have Germany, you have this in these countries now. Large populations of new arrivals who are not saying, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna be there for you. We're gonna do the best stuff we can. And we're so grateful. We're so grateful. Do you get the sense that, that the illegals that have come into America who go to these protests, for example, and create all these, all this, this spectacle in places like Los Angeles. Remember we saw that Trump called the National Guard. Do they ever speak of the gratitude they have for this country? No, they think, they just, they think that it's owed to them. I came here and I'm just as American as you. But you're not, you're not lawfully in this country. You violated the compact. The law of the United States is something that binds all Americans and you, the illegal, have violated that. You are not as American as everybody else. Sorry, but you go on place like CNN and they will say things that are just counterfactual about the history of immigration and how these processes have all worked. And I've even gotten to the point now where I like to say to people, you know, pick a country. Pick a country like Sweden. It's a good example for a bunch of reasons. I think Sweden has 10 million people, you know, 10 million people, and they've let in something like a million migrants in the last decade or two from the Middle east, from Muslim countries. And they've got some problems. Some challenges by the data on particularly violent crimes, of sexual. Sexual crimes show that the new arrivals, unfortunately, in these countries from the Muslim world are wildly, disproportionately represented in the ranks of the offenders. Just a fact. So much so that countries like Sweden try to hide it as a matter of state policy. We have that too, I might add. In this country, you have a lot of. In the stats about who's committing crimes, you'll have illegals who look like they're on MS.13, but they'll be counted in prison data as white. So wait, so now we're dealing with the white Hispanic thing again. Remember that with, with George Zimmerman, which they only could pull off. They thought the media on the Trayvon Martin situation because his last name was Zimmerman, if his name was, you know, was George Dominguez, might have been a little harder to say, he's a white guy. But that's, that's what they tried for a while, the white Hispanic. I'd never, I had truly never, I'm trying to think in the media, have I, had I ever heard that term? I don't think I'd ever heard that term in a media report, at least before the George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin trial, which Obama weighed in on, if you recall, and said if he had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon. Because Obama was really interested in harmony and racial healing in this country. Sure. How did that all go for us? Regardless, I am now on a mission to try to do all I can to educate people who were willing to listen about what really happened at various times in this country's history when it comes to immigration. Oh, sorry, Sweden. I have to finish my Sweden. My Sweden model. I'm weaving. I'm weaving as Trump says, right? He says, I'm weaving. I'm weaving a story, weaving a tale. Okay, Sweden has 10 million people. Would it still be Sweden if they brought in 5 million Syrians, Iraqis and Somalis? Just take that one. Would it still be Sweden? Technically, yes. Maybe you would call it that. Is it the same country? Is it the same country? Oh, so people will admit when you go through this, that at some point, if you change the people in a country enough, it is a different country. That's obvious. And if that, and if the 5 million of the 10 million coming from very different cultures, very different backgrounds doesn't, okay, what if we brought in 10 million? What if we brought in 10? What, what if all of a sudden you'll also notice that it is only countries, according to the left and according to Democrats, that are predominantly or overwhelmingly white Caucasian, that are supposed to just say this is a process, that this is as natural as it can be. We want as many people from the third world as possible. The Japanese aren't doing that. Quite, quite the opposite, in fact, they. Japan is for Japanese. China's not doing that. Second biggest country in the world. India is not doing that. The biggest country in the world. They're not saying, give me everyone from everywhere else. But why is it that America, Canada and Western European countries are supposed to do that without protest, no matter the consequences? Well, we start to see what the awakening in this country has been all about. And I would also, again, just work through this piece by piece. If all countries are the same in terms of where we should be privileging those who come here legally, why even have a system that pretends to be sorting and making decisions? It's all the same. Of course it's not all the same. Canada had a point system, an explicit point system for how much money you have, your education. And they still have all kinds of problems up there now with assimilation and with unity of the Canadian people and still have a lot of problems. But they were just like, we're going to take the people that are going to do the best for us. And that was, I think, well, I'll let the Canadians speak on that one. But it's been a big change in perception about that. So why even have a system that allows some in but not others if all, if it's all the same? Clearly some countries are going to send. And this is not, this is again, about policy. Are there amazing. Are there Incredible. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is Somali. She's brilliant. She's brave. She's incredible. Incredible woman. Read her book Infidel, whatever it was 20 something years ago. She is gutsy. She's an amazing woman. She's Somali. It's not about holding anything against any individual when we talk about immigration. It's about we got to make, we got to draw the line somewhere. We have to have some, what's generally true policies and it is generally true that taking people from, I've talked about Taiwan a fair bit because I was just there from Taiwan is going to result in more people who are highly productive, highly law abiding than taking people who have, have come here from pick, pick a kind of, you know, from Yemen. Yemen's been in rough shape for a long time now. Very poor country, war torn country ideologically, a lot of jihadism. Okay, so, and then this goes back even to what the so called Muslim bent. We have to start to look at this. Okay, I wanted to do CNN. Here's CNN's Abby Phillip taking shots at Stephen Miller over his role in Trump Administration Immigration Policy Play 17. Why are you assuming that assimilation is not happening? Because you know, when, when Stephen Miller's ancestors came here in the early 1900s, they didn't speak a lick of English. Okay. They were working factory jobs. There is a generational shift that happens where sometimes the first generation, they don't speak speak English, but they have children. And those people are Americans and they become people who are no different from you or you or you or you. Assimilation actually is happening and does happen. So that's not the policy that we have been told is in effect, which is just take anybody. Eventually they'll learn English and their kids will be born here and they'll be as American as everybody else. And I'd also note in the, in the context of a place like Europe we've seen, it's not always true, not always true. They even learn the language. And I'm gonna tell you this, I'm here in South Florida. There are, I did not really come across this very much in New York city in my 30 something years living in New York. It is more common here. There are people here who speak no English, who live here, who are here forever. They speak no English. They're immigrants to this country. They do not speak any English. That's a problem. Everybody who's here should be able to speak English. English Trump signed, you know, English is the national language. Executive order. I would like to see actually more action on this with Congress. You have to have shared law, shared language, shared culture, shared history. Because a nation at some level is a people who come together around ideas and those shared things that I just laid out. But it is a people, meaning that it's a place in time and a people in that place. And you can't just say all of you go over here to some other place and we're going to Replace all of you at once. And it's the same country. That's just not true. And so we've had to look at this at a very baseline level. What is going on in America today? How rapidly is the. Are the American people not as American in the sense that you've got tens of millions of illegals who are here and you've got people who are arriving here and in the case of what we see in Minneapolis, immediately becoming dependent on the state? Immediately they want their benefits, and that's on all of us to pay those bills. The Americans who are already here, we're allowed to say, I don't want to be. 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