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Invest in Our Land Representative
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Buck Sexton
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Congressman Jim Jordan
I've done my part.
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Buck Sexton
But now I'm sitting on potentially a large sum that is owed to you. My bills are coming due at the end of the year, but I can't.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Even finalize my plans for next year.
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Buck Sexton
It's pretty frustrating.
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Clay Travis
Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show We appreciate all of you, especially those of you who heard the clarion call to show up Yesterday, in the final election of 2025 in Tennessee's 7th congressional district, where you guys got out the vote and comfortably helped Matt Van Epps become my congressman, he won by around nine points in a, frankly, turnout that was roughly half of what typically happens in congressional races. This was, you're going to hear a lot of spin, although it seems to me that they have already kind of dropped this story in the legacy media. Um, and as a result, they are not paying a lot of attention to this because the result was a very comfortable win for Matt Van Epps. Nine points. They initially tried to say, well, Trump won this district by 22 points in 2024. And yeah, that's true. Way less people showed up to vote. The Democrat crazy base shows up to vote in all of these special elections. This was their best opportunity to get a steal in this seat, and they lost by 9 points. So congrats to Matt Van Epps. It took a lot of effort to. To make people aware that this race was happening yesterday in the middle of the holiday season, the week after Thanksgiving. We had him on this show twice. President Trump, speaker of the House Mike Johnson. They all got out. And I want to say thank you to everybody who showed up for this race. And frankly, Buck, I think there are a lot of people out there who would have been voting Van Epps that still had no idea this race was taking place. Because it was a December election. The week after Thanksgiving, special election, new congressional districts just very difficult to mobilize. This was the best case scenario for the Democrat Party. I watched the results come in. I celebrated by kicking back and finishing the first four episodes of season five of Stranger Things with the Travis boys. So it was a fun night in the. In the Travis household. That's how we celebrated.
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Buck Sexton
Buck, I'm of two minds on this. Okay. On the one hand, yes, of course, this is a Republican win. Good for the country. Afton Bain was clearly a lunatic, and the good guys won this round. That's all true. And it's important for the midterms that they didn't get some crazy off, you know, off year, special election win that they could turn into. All of that is true. But there's a little part of me that is sad. A little part of me that has had to sit here while you have thrown all sorts of columnies. Is that the right word at New York City for Mom Donnie's win? And I was going to have some fun with the fact that your district might have been full commie. There perhaps could have been breadlines outside of Peg Leg Porker, my favorite Nashville barbecue, there would have been girls on those outdoor bar bicycle things singing the Soviet national anthem and drinking nothing but cheap vodka because that's how the motherland of the Soviet Union would have wanted it. So on the one hand, yes, Clay, the good guys won. On the other hand, the opportunity for all of us to troll you for living in a communist dystopia district is now gone. So I just wanted to be honest about that.
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Clay Travis
I am so glad that, that I don't have to worry about having this crazy chick representing me. Afton Bain. She got kicked to the curb and.
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Buck Sexton
I do think, you know, she's going to be tweeting at you and, and, and all the Daily Wire guys at the trolling that you were going to have to endure would have just been very difficult.
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Clay Travis
Oh, the, the, the cope now in my mentions, the cope now is, well, this is a crazy right wing district where racists like Clay Travis lived. It's really hard to, to win. And let me just tell you, thank the ward that I live where I do. I live in Williamson County, Tennessee. God's country. I am never leaving for the rest of my life. I am living right here in this county. I think I've said this on the air before, Buck. I don't know if I think I've told you. I don't know if I've said it on the air. After Covid, I told my wife, I said, you know, we, we've been picking a new place to live in the area because the boys are getting bigger and they want to be a little bit closer to their school. All those things. I said, you can find us a spot. I said, I will not live in Davidson County. That is Nashville's Davidson county where I was born and raised. Because I'm still so angry of how they handled Covid. I said, you know, look, it's a small thing, but I will not give them property tax dollars because I am so angry about the choices they made during COVID So Williamson county, which is, for those of, you know, the Nashville area, Brentwood, for Franklin, it is the greatest place, I think, anywhere in the country. I do not ever want to leave here. And when you looked at the results, Williamson county showed up for Matt Van Epps in big numbers. And I do think this is a, an important story going forward, Buck, because the nation may be saying, okay, this, this race is over. What do we learn?
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One, you got to run towards Trump. You cannot run away from him. I mean, this is the story this.
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Buck Sexton
Is what, this is what Congressman elect Van Epps just said. This is cut one. Listen to him say it.
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Cut one.
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Clay Travis
And with President Donald J. Trump and stood firmly behind our campaign, I am humbled beyond belief to stand before you tonight as your next representative. I say this to my friends in the liberal media and to the professional panickers in my own party. Tonight we showed running from Trump is how you lose. Running with Trump is how you win.
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Yeah, look, I think it's going to be a big decision in 26, and I am super optimistic, as we have talked about on this program, that the economy is going to be very good by the summer. And that is going to be ultimately, I believe, the deciding factor in many of these different races out there. But there are going to be a lot of people who have to make decisions about how to win without Trump on the ballot. And Donald Trump is never going to be on the ballot again for the rest of our lives. There are a lot of people who show up to support Trump that do not show up in races when Trump's not on the ballot. So I am cautiously optimistic for 26. But I do think one of the lessons of what happened here was Trump is doing a good job. You cannot run away from him. And you absolutely, positively need to motivate the base that is the Republican Party because there's a lot of non traditional voters. And this is going to be true. All these off year elections, to the extent that people are out there listening, I would really implore, if you're a Republican in Congress, I get that you may be unhappy or there may be life related concerns. I don't understand why you would leave and force an off year election or an off calendar election at this point. Please stay. The opportunity here was created because my congressman, Mark Green decided to step down. The only way these people win in Trump districts is by relying on these off calendar elections. When the crazy Democrat voters show up, they're more loyal. They just are.
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Buck Sexton
And hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Loyalty. I can't. They have less to do. They tend not to have jobs and families the same way that our voters do. You know, they're, they're, they're sitting around without a whole lot on the calendar except dyeing their hair purple and talking about fascism in Trump's America. So, yes, they show up. I'm not sure it's a loyalty thing. Our people are busy picking the kids up from soccer players.
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Clay Travis
But maybe when I say loyal, I mean their political belief is all that defines them. I think we're saying somewhat similar things. If you're a Trump voter, there's a lot of things going on in your life. You're probably religious, you're committed to a church, you probably have a family. You're obligated to be running your kids or your grandkids all over the place. There are a lot of people for whom the Democrat Party has become their sun, moon and stars. It's their religion, it's their life, it's their entire value system. It is something that fundamentally defines them.
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Buck Sexton
It gives them identity. That is who they are. And that's why they're so annoying about it. When you are sitting next to them at any kind of a function, or if they figure out what you or I do, for example, they want to start telling us what's really going on. Let me tell you a thing, sir.
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Clay Travis
I mean, I'll be honest with you, Buck. When I went and voted yesterday, it was cold. You know, it's 35 degrees. Like the worst weather that Nashville can have.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, none of that down here in South Florida, my Florida peeps, none of that.
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Clay Travis
I know the best thing about when I lived in the, in the, in the Caribbean for a couple of years when I was a young kid, when you watch bad weather, other places and you live in great weather, you're just like, why do people do this? You know, you're already doing it. All you Miami people, you sit in your warm in, in your perfect weather and you're like, why would you be a place where it snows? You know, you're watching a football game on television or you're watching the weather reports and you're just like, what a crazy idea that these people have to just go sit in the cold. The Afton Bain supporters, Buck, old women. It was super cold. They were standing outside on the street for hours, no cover, with Afton Bain signs. And I'm not talking. I mean, these are not like 20 year old college kids. This is like 75 year old women. Their entire life purpose is the Democrat party. And I think there are a lot of women that they have, that they have grabbed, that they have captivated as your life's purpose is to show up and do this work for the Democrat party. And that those people show up in these special elections in a way that I would say, quote, unquote, people with lives.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Do not necessarily.
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Buck Sexton
Well, this is also why being a Democrat means, and I'm talking about going back for decades, never having to address personal accountability. Being a Democrat means that you can have this Whole system that will justify choices you made based on convenience, based on emotion, based on how it made you feel at the time. I would argue that the central ethos of the Democrat party runs contrary to the wisdom that you accrue from life. And so if you are a woman in your 60s or your 70s who has always, always, always voted Democrat, it is in fact in some ways more important than ever that you perpetuate that system. Because the moment you start to question it, you question a lot of things that you have thought and done in your life previously.
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Clay Travis
I'm weird in this way, probably many ways. Many of you out there are going to say, I'm willing to accept that I could be wrong about everything. And I don't know what that is. I mean, maybe it's partly legal training, maybe partly it's just a willingness to accept and acknowledge.
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Larger questions out there. I think a lot of our listeners are. I think a lot of our listeners are in that camp. And with age comes wisdom. And I don't, you know, when there's a 20 year old running around who has an opinion, I tend to think and hope that as they have life experience, they will become more educated. You have kids, you have different experiences, you become a grandparent, you have different experiences. But you're right, I think a lot of these crazy left wing people, they're so committed to it being their identity, how they vote, that if they ever examine that even the party that they vote for is no longer the party of the 1980s or the 1990s, it would require them to revoke much of their entire life's work and they're unwilling to have that, that realization.
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Buck Sexton
A lot of things that they have believed for a long time would start to crumble before their eyes. So that's why they're like Afton Payne, Free Palestine. Climate change is an existential threat. Because if they stopped the hysteria, they would look around and they'd have to think, I really wasn't very nice to people who were important in my life at different times. I really didn't think about others. I really didn't put my country or my community first in any meaningful way. I just pretended and voted for these silly commies. That's my view of it, at least. All right, look, last night I, you know, Clay, I'm a modest guy, but I got to tell everybody about this one. I was all cozy on the couch and I mean, I was in a great spot. I had Ginger next to me. Speed had already gone to sleep and I'm sitting There I'm drinking my tea and I've just got this wonderful blanket from Cozy Earth that is wrapped around my legs.
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Clay Travis
It is pretty awesome.
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Buck Sexton
Bubble cuddle blanket.
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Clay Travis
And my wife, South Florida, this is. You got. Your air conditioning was going.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I was going to say the air conditioning is very strong here. So my. My beautiful wife is also on the couch, and she has some flimsy. I'm just gonna say it. Some flimsy kind of sad blanket. Sad, exclamation point blanket on her feet. And I don't even know where this thing came from. You know what I did? I said, honey, we can share. So we shared our Cozy Earth blanket. And it was great. Let me tell you, it's big, it's warm. It's the coziest you're gonna find anywhere. It is a perfect blanket gift for anyone who is important in your life this holiday season, including yourself. You can get one for yourself and then to the husbands out there, because you can even get one in pink. But you share it with your wife and you're a hero. Not all heroes wear capes. Get yourself a bubble cuddle blanket. That is a universal favorite. I've got to get probably another one now because Carrie's going to make sure it's on her side of the couch every night. Cozy Earth has a whole range of incredible products, though. I just recommend, no matter what situation you're in, you get some new sheets from Cozy Earth because they're better than whatever sheets. You've got time to refresh those sheets. This holiday season, you sleep on your bed hopefully seven, eight hours a night, maybe six, seven hours a night. You want to be comfortable. Cozy Earth comes through for you. We love this company. Amazing stuff. All of the gifts for my family in New York this year. Cozy Earth Cuddle blanket, pajamas, towels. One Stop Shop got it all done and they're very happy. Go check it out right now. Cozy earth.com cozy earth z o cozy earth.com use my name Buck for up to 40% off. Make sure to order by December 12th. So you've only got a little bit of time here, but, you know, 10 days or so. December 12th for guaranteed Christmas delivery. Guaranteed Christmas delivery. If you get this, get it done this week. Get it done today. Go to cozyearth.com code buck for up to 40% off.
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Clay Travis
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Mic drops. That never sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
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How are USDA staff cuts and budget challenges affecting farmers?
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Clay Travis
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show. Wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Welcome back in Clay Travis. Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Let's have a little bit of fun here. We'll get some of your calls here momentarily. But Buck, I saw this stat this morning as I surveyed the landscape of the stock market. American Eagle Outfitters. You remember when American Eagle was in the news back in the summer when they brought Sydney Sweeney, the buxom, I think is the way that you described her buxom lass.
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Into their, into their advertising world. They did the great jeans commercial. For those of you out there that have forgotten about this, I do think culturally this is significant. It's just a pretty girl wearing jeans. They sold out of the jeans. But then she said she had and.
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Buck Sexton
It upset a lot of people. That's the evening that's the craziest part.
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Clay Travis
People on the left said, well this is Nazi eugenics. You know, how can a blonde blue eyed girl say that she has great genes? They had the big discussion all through left wing media. American Eagle stock is soaring again today, Buck. After they beat earnings estimates, they now have gone up over over $3 today. If you bought the stock the day the ad campaign began, Stock is up 120%. You would have more than doubled your money if you had simply seen a buxom lass in a jeans commercial that was being criticized and thought, you know what, I think America might respond well to a pretty girl selling blue jeans. And guess what? America has responded quite well to it. I think what you're seeing and people say okay, well why does this matter? We were so lied to. When you were walking through the mall and you saw a fat androgynous chick in a bra and a panty in the window at Victoria's Secret and you thought to yourself, boy, I don't know that, you know, I want to buy underwear when the model looks like Clay Travis might as well have a beard and a bra and panties on. I don't know that that's really Going to make a lot of sense. But they tried to slam this home through the culture. Advertising agencies are among the wokest of all brands in the entire world. They try to make you think that the world looks differently than it does and that you should like things that you don't. It's all going up in flames, all of it. And I thought that anyway, as I'm watching that stock price soar, I did think it was super interesting in that respect. We got a bunch of people who want to weigh in. Carmen in Florida, let's take some of your calls. Carmen, what you got for us?
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Listener Caller
How you doing, guys? Listen, this is my take on it. I'm so glad that Van won as a for the Republicans because had it been the other Democrat AOC would have, would have thought that her, you know, her movement, her socialist movement would have been the way to go, validated, you know, and not only that, because she was so successful with Mandani, she thought that she can do the same with this, with this Democrat lady. I just think that that would have blown her head even more.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, look, I think in general, when you start to look through all of, all of the arguments that are going to be out there, what you're going to see is what works in New York City and la, and this should be common sense, but for a lot of Democrats, it's not. What works in New York City and in LA is not going to work in the same way in the larger, you know, the battleground states. I was looking at numbers coming out of Michigan, for instance. I think we got a real shot in Michigan of flipping the governor's seat and the Senate seat there. Remember, Trump won Michigan by relatively small, you know, tight margin, but there are big battleground states out there that I think the idea of Mom, Donnie and this crazy Afton Bain chick are not going to pan out. Tom in Tampa, what you got for us?
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Listener Caller
Hey, first, I do want to talk about that I'm so happy about David Zakaria woods and carry so forth, but I do want to give you a free plug for the audiobook Balls.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Okay.
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Listener Caller
I, I not only got my copy, but a former sales manager, my best friend used to draw the balls up on easel and I got him one for Christmas. So Joe, this one's for you. Clay on the election, obviously praise God for you for what you did and, and everything. But I have to also say I am totally shocked that that spread was only nine points. I, I, I'm sitting there saying like, I've spent a lot of Time in Davis, the county, Winston County. Even though I'm in Tampa, like that. That spread should have been 25, 30 points. And also, one last thing on Balls. You and I have the same grandfather. Mine came through Ellis island, so I'll listen to you.
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Buck Sexton
So you, you got. You have family members calling in now, Clay, this makes sense, given how much this guy loves you.
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Clay Travis
I don't know how we have this same grandfather here, but. But I appreciate Tom in Tampa. I don't have any relatives.
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Buck Sexton
I thought he was a member of your family before he even said the part about genealogy. That guy loves.
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Clay Travis
What are you saying? How do we have the same grandfather, Tom? I didn't know I had any relatives in Tampa.
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Listener Caller
The same grandfather has to do with. People have to get your audio book to understand your dynamic about, about grandparents. And, and just so you know, I, I, I stay up at night worrying about the birth rate, just like you do. If I had a critique of Balls, if I had a critique, it would only be because I know because of demographics that people buy the most crap in their life, the most luxury crap of their life between 48 and 58. And without the, Without a birthright to support that, guess what? We're screwed. So I am totally on point with you. Get balls.
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Clay Travis
Thank you.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Not.
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Clay Travis
Not an actual relative there, Buck. I was, like, trying to figure out what exactly was the play. But yes, look, the book, by the way, you can get it autographed, and you get coffee. What we said yesterday. This is a good play. You go right now to crockettcoffee.com. you will get an autograph. Copy that. I'm holding a pen in my hand. I will actually sign it, unlike Joe Biden. And you get coffee. So you can give a book as a gift, read it, get credit for it as a gift, and you can get delectable Crockett coffee, which I am in the process right now of drinking@crockett coffee.com. please go join our revolution there, Nancy in Michigan. Nancy, what you got for us?
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Listener Caller
Oh, hey, guys. Congratulations on Tennessee. Awesome. But I was listening last week. I wasn't able to get through. Well, this, this guy from New York called, and he was dissing Trump because he's trying to get along with the commie mayor elect. Well, you know, it's all about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer, and people should not give up on Trump that quick. He knows what he's doing. You got to trust the guy. You know, he's incredible what he does.
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Buck Sexton
Well, we were saying this too. And this is, this is Buck speaking from the New Yorker perspective, or I guess, former New Yorker. Now, there was no upside for Trump being gruff or rude to. Mamdani hasn't done anything other than run a campaign where he said, you know, and said some things in the past that Trump disagrees with. But Trump's approach of, hey, if you want to be more reasonable than people expect, you know, we're willing to meet you on some of the issues where you're going to be reasonable. Yeah, maybe Mamdani forgets all that and acts like the lunatic we think he'll be. But, but at least Trump gave him the opportunity. At least Trump's. At least Trump was willing to be the bigger man and say to him, if you want to be a good mayor, we're here for you. And I think that's absolutely the approach. What's the alternative? Trump looking like some petulant child. I can't believe you won. You're terrible. This is the White House. He's the president. He did exactly the right thing.
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Clay Travis
I think once they made the decision to have the face to face meeting, if Trump wanted to continue to snipe and go back and forth, I think he would have not done the meeting, if that makes sense. Once you're going to be face to face in the White House, I don't think you win substantially by having that battle in public in that same way, if, if that makes sense. By the way, 800-282-2882. We will continue to take some of your calls during the course of the program.
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Buck Sexton
I want to know why. Sometimes I legitimately get curious. You know, you guys who want to get on the air anytime that you leave us with a little bit of a tease, like I just was told here that someone wants to pull my man card, I'm like, what did I, what did I do? This is Truck Driver Steve. We love our truckers. You guys are with us three hours a day. A lot of you all across this country. Truck Driver Steve, Clay, this is CC Says he's pulling my man card. I don't even know what I did yet. Play, cc hey, guys, Truck Driver Steve here. You know, we might have to seriously consider pulling bucks, man. I mean, the, the drinking tea thing, giving the wife the blanket for her fee. Come on, dude, get me drinking a beer and putting the empty beer box on her feet. I gotta tell you, Truck Driver Steve, happy carry means a happy everybody around here. If I got, if I gotta give her the blanket, I gotta, you know, give her a Foot rub. Whatever wifey needs, wifey gets. Okay? There's no man card getting pulled over that one.
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Clay Travis
The fact that you have got the air conditioner turned up too high, that you need a blanket while you're watching the show, it's a little bit of a taunt on the rest of America right now, which is dealing with snow apocalypse all over. When we have northeaster, I think with.
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Buck Sexton
The AC indoors here in South Florida, sometimes it'll get to 68 or 69 degrees. And that's just. Oh, it's chilly.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. I'm gonna be down next week. I'm not gonna lie.
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Buck Sexton
I'm looking.
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Clay Travis
I'm looking forward to.
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Buck Sexton
He's gonna be wearing flip flops appropriately next week instead of having his toes turned blue in Tennessee. So that's.
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Clay Travis
I went down to get my newspaper this morning in my flip flops and. But it was cool. It was cold.
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Buck Sexton
That'll wake you. That'll wake you up in the morning.
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Clay Travis
I'm the only person who still get. I'm living in fear buck every time I open my email that they're going to stop delivering print newspapers. This is. I moved to a new location here and I had to switch. And I was like, oh, my goodness, are they still going to be able to get my newspapers here or not? And that's got me a little bit nervous. Not going to lie, my friends.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Second hour playing Buck kicks off now. Thanks for being here, everybody. And we're gonna probably, probably be joined by Congressman Jim Jordan here in a few moments. Oh, we already got him. I was about to dive into the Minnesota Somali fraud story, but Congressman Jordan, it's Buck. It's Clay. Appreciate you being with us, sir.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Good to be with you guys. Thanks for all you do. Buck, Congratulations. Congratulations. I've seen the athletic prowess, the hundred miles per hour serve that you are championing and putting out there for the entire planet to, to view. So I stand corrected. I've seen it now multiple times.
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Buck Sexton
You're, you're, you're a big man to come on the air and admit that you were among the doubters. There were some doubters out there. Jim was very supportive of me in general Clay, but a doubter. And it was 103 miles an hour, but, you know, who's counting? So appreciate that, especially Dragon.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Yeah, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
From somebody with, with the athletic background that you have, being like a state champion wrestler. I appreciate that. Easier for people to judge. A lot of people in the cheap seat saying, hey, middle aged guy, Buck, stay with Call of Duty. I still got some juice in this arm. I still got some juice in this arm. All right, Congressman, thank you. Thank you for that. You're, you're a good man. Now tell us, what are you guys in the Congress while you still have the majority? Let's hope that continues for well through the rest of this administration and beyond. What are you trying to get done by the end of this, this session? Because it's coming upon us very quickly. What's top of the agenda?
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Well, I do think, you know, because the Democrats raised this issue, they shut the government down, you know, for 43 days, a month and a half, I think, largely to go after President Trump. But they said their stated reason was it was about health care. I do think it makes sense for us to look at ways to bring down premiums, but it's not a further subsidy of Obamacare. I learned a long time ago subsidies typically don't bring down costs. In fact, they normally drive cost up and better approach is choice and competition, which is what we want to do. So we're looking to put together a healthcare package. The speaker, I think, was talking about this yesterday on health savings accounts, associations, health plans, giving families the ability to purchase kind of plan that fits their needs. Younger families don't need some of the same coverage that older Americans need. So there's ways to do that that I think makes sense. And so we're looking to do that. Of course, this we've got, we've got a big bill on the floor today that we'll be speaking on later this afternoon on college sports. We got the January 30 issue on funding the government and a host of other things. I think, frankly, we got to make a decision on we're going to do a second reconciliation package or not, because the first one I thought was great. And it's going to, I think, starting to have impact on our economy. But all those are things that I think we need to focus on getting done here for the American people and build on the great record we've seen with securing the border, cutting taxes and, and some of the success that President Trump has had on the international scene as well.
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Clay Travis
When you look ahead to 2026, we've had the last win, thankfully, in my congressional district here. Matt Van Epp is going to be joining you as A colleague and I know Speaker Johnson was on with us earlier this week campaigning for him. When do you think in your mind the pivot to the official start of the 2026 election becomes, and the reason why I'm asking is, you know, we're finishing 2025. This is the last of all those races happened last night. Is it August in your mind where it officially flips to campaign season? You've been through a lot of these. Yeah. When to you does the campaign really start next year?
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Yeah, I mean largely it's when we, when, you know, Congress has this historic break in the month of August. So that's sort of the traditional time where, okay, now it's just full tilt politics until the November election. But you know, you guys know this, I mean you're on, you're on the radio, you're talking to this, this huge audience every day. We're pretty much in the perpetual campaign. I mean it's like, you know, no sooner is one race done till they're already talking about the next one. And then the states that have the off year elections like New Jersey and Virginia and so it's almost perpetual. I don't know if it's necessarily good or bad, but certainly the traditional timeframe is next summer. But I think it probably gets here a little sooner. And with the Democrats and they're constant attack on the President, in some ways it feels like it's never stopped.
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Buck Sexton
What's the way to, to actually deal with affordability for the administration and for the Congress to the degree that it's even possible? I mean there's the structural issues, Congressman, of, of the inflation that we have, the, the trillion spent under Biden that spiked us to a 40 year high in inflation. Still trying to deal with that prices though, bringing them down very tough. Even keeping them static would seem to be in some ways a challenge. Depends on what we're talking about. But healthcare specifically, it's just completely out of control. I mean anybody who looks at their premiums now versus their premiums a decade ago, I mean you go back to the beginnings of Obamacare really a decade and a half ago, and people's premiums have gone up two or three times monthly. Premiums.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
And they told us, remember they told us, you like your plan, you can keep your plan, you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor and premiums will go down. They were 0 for 3. And now what Democrats are saying, oh, the expanded credit, the expanded subsidy in the Obamacare plan that we want to give to insurance companies, we want to Extend that.
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Listener Caller
Well, how does that make any sense?
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Congressman Jim Jordan
And how is that going to bring down costs and make things more affordable? It's not. So you got to go back to what I said. Choice and competition bring down costs. Let's focus on that in health care. Let's also look at the fact that these taxing cuts that we had in the big beautiful bill are just now starting to kick in. I think they're going to have pay real dividends for American families as we move into 26 and we get closer to the election. I think that will help us politically, certainly will help families in a real way, help our economy, but also help us politically. I think all that is going to improve. And then finally, the last point I make, and you were saying this buck, it was so bad under Biden, the spending inflation was off the charts. Nine percent was like going crazy levels, record levels of inflation, never seen those levels before. President Trump and Republicans bring it down significantly, but things still cost too much. When you have that, the curve is going straight up and you bring the curve down to almost flat, it's still way too high. So it's going to take a while for the big beautiful bill, the tax cuts, the regulatory reform that we had in there to really impact. And we can do some good things. On health care, I think we can bring down cost even more. We're seeing that the gas pump right now, lower price and everything else. But I think that's how it has to play out. And I think it can as we move into next year, moving and get closer to the election.
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Clay Travis
I think you hit on the signature issue that's going to be out there in 2026 or talking to Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio. And that is people are just frustrated with what things cost. And it went up so fast under Joe Biden that even if you start to bring back sanity to pricing, the prices still feel like too much. I mean, I ordered, I had Chick Fil A with my kids yesterday. The amount I have to pay for Chick Fil A, it blows my mind every time I do it. Everyone out there knows what that feeling is. When you go to buy something and in your head it feels like it should cost 20 bucks and instead it costs 30. Everybody knows that feeling. And I've used the analogy, Congressman, of back when the same thing happened with Jimmy Carter, Reagan, it took a while for people to stabilize their.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Great point. We were talking about the same thing yesterday. Great point.
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Clay Travis
Will it register with enough people by the time we get to November of next year? That's my biggest concern, because I think by 28 it will. By 26, I'm not sure.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Yeah, I mean, that's, that's the, you know, that's the big question. I think it will. I'm confident. One of my colleagues, excuse me, one of my colleagues said yesterday he thinks when the big beautiful bill really kicks in, he thinks it will have that kind of impact. And he's sharp guy, is on the Budget Committee. I mean, understand this stuff. So I tend to think it will. And I'm always the optimist about these good policies that we put in place. So let's hope so. I think so. But we'll just have to see and we're going to have to go out and tell people. And remember, campaigns aren't just about that. They're also about telling voters what the other side wants to do. Never forget, I've said this many times, not all Democrats are crazy, but the left that controls their party is. And they're the party that says we want to defund the police, which is crazy. They're the party that says men should compete against women in sports, which is crazy. They're the party that says we shouldn't have a border, should just be wide open, which we saw for four years. That is crazy. So we got to highlight those things as well and then point to the positives that we've accomplished that make life better for families across this country. That's how the campaign is going to unfold, in my judgment. And I think we're going to have a pretty good story to tell.
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Buck Sexton
Congressman, do you think that Democrats, after the longest shutdown, the complete own goal of the shutdown, but do you think that they have politically learned a lesson from this, as in this isn't something they want to try again? Or what do you think? I mean, looking at the way that they operated then and what you're hearing now, being up on Capitol Hill and obviously having to work with Democrats on a whole range of things and deal with them, what's their takeaway from all of that? What do you think they're going to do going forward with continuing resolutions? Like how are they going to play.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
It well, how they're going to play January 30th? Who knows, they might try it again. But I do not think they've learned any, any lesson that in any in a way we would really, I think, wow. I think look at Chuck Schumer. Six months ago he voted for the CR and then this time he wouldn't. He let people who were retiring or Others in safer seats who weren't up for reelection, whether they could vote for it to open back up the government. So I don't think they've learned anything because again, remember, the left controls their party. And the left was adamantly opposed to opening up the government. The left is the left. In the Democrat Party were the people who persuaded them to shut down the government. So the left controls that party. That's where all the energy is. That's the Mom Donnie wing, that in the AOC wing. That's the control and the energy in the party. So I do not think, I think they're going to, they're double down on that. I mean, they ran in a district in Tennessee, Mad Van Epps, great guy, West Point grad, helicopter pilot, wonderful family, good guy. We endorse that guy early. Great guy, great candidate. They ran the what, the AOC of Tennessee. This is Tennessee, for goodness sake. And you're talking about some left wing person is going to win a seat in Tennessee that's got a bunch of rural counties around Nashville, like that makes no sense. But that's today's left. So I don't, I think the lesson is we're just going to keep pushing ahead with all the left wing policies.
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Clay Travis
What else is out there? We should know, Jim, as we get ready and we get a lot of questions about, hey, you know, we know that we're going to have control of the House and the Senate for one more year, right, until you guys take your recess in the summer to start the campaign season. And we know that if we lose the House, President Trump's probably going to get impeached for a third time. And you know better than anybody, that stuff will drag debt drag on. It'll be very difficult to get anything passed. What to you is the most important thing that can be passed in the next year, that, that that's your top priority or that you think should be the top priority of the Republican Party?
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Well, I'll mention two things. One, first is just more general. I just think we should do our job. I mean, there hasn't been a budget passed. The budget sets the framework for doing the appropriations. I think we should do our job, pass the budget, moving the appropriations on the government, follow the process that's tried and true versus all these CRs and all these shutdown talk and everything else. So just do our job, show up at committee, focus on good policy, get the kind of health care that gives choice and competition versus more subsidies that they want to do under Obamacare. So I think that's sort of in a general sense. Second, I do think when you look at the weaponization of government over the last years that we've all been a part of and seen and uncovered, I do think we have this Pfizer reauthorization coming up in the spring. I think it's important we get that right and protect Americans liberties. I mean, I just found out two weeks ago that Jack Smith and his team were getting my phone records, spying and surveilling me for two and a half years. They knew who I called, who called me when they called me, how long the call lasted, if I initiated the call, they knew where I was at when I initiated the call. You talk about patterning someone's life. You figure out every morning, Clay or Buck, you call, you text your wife when you go to work, you call at this time, you call your brother, you call your colleague Clay. Like they can pattern all that. That's creepy, but that's what they were doing. And so I do think with this FISA reauthorization, we need to focus on protecting the fourth Amendment, your First Amendment liberties, making sure those are strong protections in place. Because that's our system, that's the Constitution, that's the Bill of Rights and that's what we need to do. So I think that's an important element that we have to get right that comes up for reauthorization this coming April and it's in this, you know, right in our committee of.
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Clay Travis
Awesome. Well, we appreciate the time.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
You bet. Thanks guys. Thanks for all the good work you do. Buck, congratulations. I'll be watching.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
Next year.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you. I appreciate the congrats, especially because my shoulder is still a little sore. But that's a conversation for another time. Old man Sexton over here. Thank you, Congressman Jordan.
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Congressman Jim Jordan
See you guys.
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Buck Sexton
Buck Sexton here. The entire Clay and Buck show. Wish you and your family a warm Christmas season and a joyful new year. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. I want to dive into what Trump has said about the, the Somali community in Minneapolis here in just a second. Getting a lot of attention on this. But first up, I just, I just have to because this is going to be fun. We have, as you know, we have robust audience in all 50 states. But I'm particularly pleased because it just shows how cool it is at radio. People can listen to us in Alaska on the radio and they do, including Pam who listens on Ken I 650 Keni up in Anchorage and this is what she had to say.
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Listener Caller
HH okay, Buck, you're, you're trying my patience a little bit here. So last week I was, I was wounded by your cobbler hatred. And on behalf of the entire state of Alaska who goes, you know, weeks in sub zero weather.
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Clay Travis
Stop.
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Listener Caller
Just stop with your blankie and your air conditioning.
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Buck Sexton
Look, sometimes the air conditioning is really whistling over here in South Florida and I'm wearing shorts and a T shirt all the time because that's just as one does here. But I will, for our Alaska listeners, Clay, I will put this out there. It is my understanding that if you rub your hands together and blow on them a few times. That can help. Or perhaps Alaskans take your heads, put them in your armpits, let them warm up a little bit, and then it'll be just like South Florida. Ball me. Perfect.
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Clay Travis
I need. I've said this before. I'm going to take a trip. You've been. Because, in fact, with your dad, when we were out to dinner recently.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Your brother was complaining about you guys getting dropped off and grizzly bears and everything else on your family trip to. To Alaska, where your dad just kind of took you into the wild.
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Buck Sexton
I will tell the quick. The quick version of the story is that we actually. I mean, now this is gonna sound a little. A little frou frouy, but we. We had these little very small helicopters that would drop us off for fly fishing in some streams in some areas. And you could see in these streams because you're up in the. There's no roads. There's nowhere to get here. This was off the Kenai Peninsula, I think it was. This is now going back 2009. So I got to go to the memory here a bit. But when we landed, we just landed to do some fly fishing. But the only way to get in and out was helicopter. And we were told via radio, oh, you guys, there's a big. Like a storm came in suddenly. You may have to just hang out. And then they were like, you may have to. Overnight, we had nothing. We had no food, we had no packs, we had nothing.
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Clay Travis
So.
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Buck Sexton
And there were grizzly bears all over the place. Now they're. The good thing is the grizzly bears are just eating salmon and creating a lot of blubber for themselves, for hibernation. So the grizzly bears are actually in a very good mood, but they're still large and have teeth and claws and they could get annoyed at you. We had a couple of.50 cal handguns among us. But the guides who had been one of our guides had actually been a marine in Fallujah and was. Was a great dude. He was just like, look, man, 50 cal. Like, it's better to try to scare the bear away. And also, if you shoot a bear in Alaska and it's not in physical, you can't prove that it was actually attacking you. It treated like a murder investigation. I mean, state authorities kind of like, you absolutely cannot just be like, I thought the bear was. It basically has to be mauling you and then you can defend yourself. So he's like, it's better if you had to.
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Clay Travis
You want to shoot in the air.
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Buck Sexton
And Try to scare it away because he's like a handgun.50 cal with a full grown grizzly bear charging. Good luck.
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Clay Travis
It doesn't stop. In other words, like it just keeps coming. Yeah. And I think again, I've never been. I need to go. But because there it was, The S&W.
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Buck Sexton
500 by the way, for any who are wondering, that's we were carrying revolvers.
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Clay Travis
So.
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A lot of people have to travel in Alaska and helicopter and plane because there aren't roads in the same way that there are for many other parts. Such a voluminous and expansive place.
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Buck Sexton
I'm not gonna lie. I'm also desperately trying to get back my man card here after that other guy with his devastating salvo of man card violations. He what? Clay, when he put them all out there, I was like, man, that is kind of rough. So, you know, sometimes I go grizzly bear, grizzly bear fishing or fishing near grizzly bears and do man stuff, you know what I mean?
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Clay Travis
So you're gonna, you post a ton of videos of you shooting things like that. Your, your social media accounts from now on.
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Buck Sexton
I'm getting out the bazooka. I'm taking out the full auto this weekend. I gotta make up for some things here. But you and Laura, in all seriousness, and the boys, Alaska, I mean, we went in summer, but Alaska. And it's amazingly beautiful and the stuff you see is incredible. I actually thought the seeing moose was really, was really cool too. They're so much bigger than you think. When you even get close enough to have some understanding of them, they're absolutely incredible. All right, all right, back to politics, back to Trump. Sorry about that little, little diversion there. Try to rack up a couple of man card points for me.
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We have Trump weighing in on the Somali fraud story. Listen to what the President United States said. I'm just going to let you hear it. This is cut 10.
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Donald Trump
When I watch what is happening in Minnesota, the land of a thousand lakes, or however many lakes they have, they got a lot of lakes but this beautiful place. And I see these people ripping it off. And now I'm understanding and you're going to look into that's. I hear they ripped off Somalians, ripped off that state for billions of dollars. Billions every year, billions of dollars. And they contribute nothing. The Welfare is like 88%. They contribute nothing. I don't want them in our country. I'll be honest with you. Somebody would say, oh, that's not politically correct. I don't care. I don't want them in our country. Their country is no good for a reason. Their country stinks.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, as you can imagine, the anti Trump media, the Democrats, they are all in it, all in a tizzy about what Trump said here.
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Clay Travis
This is interesting. The popular. I'm reading from our friend, he has a great account at Maze. More literally. This popped up as we're talking about this.
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During a 20 month period, the feeding our future scammers billed for over 125 million fake meals. Think about this population of Minnesota, he says about 6 million people and only 1.3 million people are under the age of 18. So we're not talking. When you're billing for 125 million fake meals, some of the fake kid names they came up with were Man Sincere and John Doe. I mean this is this. The, the scale of this fraud should have been so easy to catch because according to this 125 million meals. Wouldn't you have sat back and said, I mean just think about the sheer scale that of volume of food you would need to have to prepare 125 million meals.
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Buck Sexton
There's, I have many thoughts on this. One is to steal under the guise of charity, specifically a charity. Feeding needy children.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Is particularly grotesque, right?
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
You know, it's, it's bad and you'll go to prison for a long time for defrauding the federal government for Medicare or Medicaid or something. But to say, hey, give me all this money, I'm pretending to feed needy children. Right. There's something particularly gross and particularly detestable about that. That's, that's, you know, one aspect of this. And then there's also, I think, the recognition, Clay, that of course, the Somali community in Minneapolis and we'll get to Jacob. I think it's Mayor Frey, is Jacob. Jacob Frey, I forget his name. Yes, yes, that's right.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
The mayor of Minneapolis here in a second who now starts speaking Somali in government, you know, meetings and public announcements. Not very well, I would guess, but he does speak Somali. There's a political constituency now in that state that operates as a unit and this is what happened. This is an assimilation, ok? This is something much more akin to a fifth column. This is a group operating as a. You give us what we want specifically and in this case a group that is operating with a percentage. I understand it's only, you know, a small number overall of the, of the group, but billions of dollars of criminality that, you know, how many people actually touched that money. You start to look at it, it would be interesting. And Clay, then there's also how much of this was able to continue because people in a Democrat state like Minneapolis just felt uncomfortable with what was going on with the Somali community. Meaning it will look racist, it will look xenophobic. I don't want to touch this. One of the most horrific examples of this phenomenon of a foreign immigrant group that people don't want to address. The criminality going, going on was in. Was Rotherham. And in the UK where you had a pack, you had these Pakistani child rape gangs that were operating. And when they went back, this was just a few years ago, and when they went back and they kept girls, little girls and their parents, 12, 13 years old, were going into the police and saying that this is what happened to me and the police when they finally, this became too much of an issue. And by the way, the US Media did not spend nearly enough time on this. Rotherham is the really infamous case. That's the name of the town, the city. Clay, you know what they were saying? Well, we didn't want this to reflect badly. The police were saying, we didn't want this to reflect badly on the broader Pakistani, British community.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Is that phenomenon alive and well here? That same idea of, well, we don't want to enforce the law because people will realize we got a real problem in the Somali community in Minneapolis. I think Trump certainly thinks that's real.
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Clay Travis
Well, one of the defenses that's going on, they have a child rape allegation case. That's that I was reading about in Somali, in a Somali immigrant in Minnesota. And the defense that is being offered on his behalf. Did you see this? Is he hasn't really assimilated yet to American culture and he's still still participating in Somali culture, which means sex with 12 year olds is considered standard behavior in Somalia. And so this to me goes to the culture of the people that we are actually bringing to this country. And again, this is why I don't think there's a historical.
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Buck Sexton
This also came up, by the way, in the UK with those Pakistani rape. They call them grooming gangs. I don't, I think that term is, is way too, you know, sort of sanitized. They're rape gangs. They were child rape gangs that were operating. Um, and it. When they would say, well, in Pakistan, I mean, there effectively is no. I mean the age of consent is not enforced and it doesn't really exist. Right. So they were saying, well, meaning the police, everyone, the police in the UK were like, well, to be fair, it's like, no, you're in the UK and these are Children. And you're supposed to defend them. They should be the first people to be defended in a civilized place. Clay, the fact that that's even being brought up here in America is pretty, pretty shocking and horrifying.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. And again, I think it goes to why there's not a great historical analogy in play here to people who say, well, we've always had a, you know, massive immigration policy. Go back to Ellis island, look at what's written on the Statue of Liberty. The people who came to America in the late 1800s and the early 1900s, that huge wave of immigration were coming from Western civilization. They are culturally similar. Yes. There is a corresponding degree of agreement because it comes out of a Judeo Christian culture with what should be considered acceptable in the world that doesn't exist. When you're talking about the defense being offered for a Somali individual in the United States who is accused of raping a 12 year old, the defense is, well, he hasn't assimilated enough to American culture. What you're saying is the culture completely condones 12 year old sex in Somalia.
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Buck Sexton
This is, I mean, this is a thing that I'll tell you. In Afghanistan, a lot of our soldiers who worked very closely with the indigenous forces and some of the indigenous elements there, one of the terrible things that they would become aware, you know, they weren't the police force of Afghanistan, so to speak. What they become aware of is what is culturally allowed in a place like Afghanistan is barbarous. It is barbarous, truly. Ok. And we were trying to just, you know, stop the Taliban. And we were told, you know, that you aren't the local police force. I mean, this, this, you guys who served in. The guys and gals listening served in Afghanistan. You know, exactly what I'm talking about. The kind of stuff that would go on over there culturally and specifically when it came to the, the, the sexual abuse of, of, of children, that was not, you know, they, we weren't, they weren't talking about it and the press didn't want to talk about it because Afghanistan has its own, you know, had its own cultural standards. It was horrific, Horrific, the stuff that was going on over there. And anyway, and we import the third world and we wonder what's going on. This is the point. We're bringing people in from these places and then they act a certain way and we go, wait a second. You, you know, you mean, this isn't what the founders intended. And Trump is saying, you know, we got to look at this a little bit more. And Trump is right all right, look. The team of dedicated people at preborn clinics feel like they are in the most critical battle imaginable. It's saving lives every day, and it's saving lives through love and support for women who are having a crisis pregnancy. Over 350,000 babies have been saved through preborn's efforts. Day in and day out. The clinics at preborn runs provide unconditional love and support for moms who are making that critical decision about whether to give life to their baby or have an abortion. And they start this process by a free ultrasound, which costs just $28.
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