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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
20%.
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Buck Sexton
You nailed it. Between 19 to 24, depending on the year, but about 20%. So 80% of the private industry is still working today, but it's called a federal holiday. We didn't get it. So, you know, perhaps this year I will take off Juneteenth, in fact, which is also.
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Clay Travis
We don't get. We don't get Juneteenth MLK Day. We're live Columbus Day, and we're live on President's Day, if I'm not mistaken, and also a lot of times the Friday after Thanksgiving. So we are, I think it's fair to say in the media world probably working way more days than the vast majority of people are.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, one day we'll be on that Rachel Maddow one day a week, $30 million a year gig. But in the meantime, it's a good gig. In the meantime, we're here to bring you all the news. And for those of you who are in that fortunate 25%, you can kick back, relax all three hours. You can also take this time to get your copy of Manufacturing Delusion, which comes out tomorrow officially, My friends, how the left uses brainwashing, indoctrination and propaganda against you. Run up those numbers. Go to clayandbuck.com if you want, or go to Amazon or wherever you get your books. We need a lot of books sold. People are saying things like, no one reads anymore. Let's prove them wrong. Let's prove them wrong. Conservatives, people listen to this show.
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Clay Travis
We read.
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Buck Sexton
So go check that out. Speaking of people who don't read, this is a perfect transition, I might say. AOC and Gretchen Whitmer at the Munich Security conference, no doubt. Two women who are going to be running probably along with Kamala, which we don't need to talk about that right now. It's sad. Probably going to be running for president, and that means that they need to burnish their national security credentials. Now, I will say Clay and I pre show had the discussion. Do we get into Rubio's speech, which was truly magnificent, the best secretary of state speech I have heard, or certainly that I. I know, I just. Just watched it, but. But that I can remember, it was phenomenal. It addressed a lot of things. The defense of Western civilization, the ties between America and Europe, the bond that goes far beyond just a treaty or obligation of statute. This is something that is much deeper. We'll talk about that. But, Clay, let's start with this. AOC ask some questions about some things. I want to start with her. Should the US Defend. This is cut eight. Should the US Defend Taiwan if China goes for it? Play eight.
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Clay Travis
Would.
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Guest or Interviewee
And should the US Actually commit US Troops to defend Taiwan if China were to move? You know, I think that this is such a. You know, I think that this is a. This is of course, a very long standing policy of the United States. And I think what we are hoping for is that we want to make sure that we never get to that point and we want to make sure that we are moving in all of our economics research and our global positions to avoid any such confrontation and for that question to even arise.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, it's law school class and AOC got called on by the professor, and not only did she fail to do the reading, she doesn't know what case they're talking about.
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Clay Travis
It's worse than that, Buck. It's like she doesn't know that there is a legislative, executive and judicial branch of the United States government. Um, this sounded like, if you remember, the mega viral answer, the Iraq from Miss South Carolina back in the day that went. Maybe we can grab that and. And interspice them. Because I think that would be a fun take. To me, this kind of answer is disqualifying. And you might say, okay, Clay, what do you mean by that? AOC has been in Congress now, Buck, for what, eight years, basically? Didn't she get elected back in 2018? Ish, if I'm not mistaken. So I think she's been in Congress for around eight years. That's my. That's my recollection of her career. What we should do if China invades Taiwan is one of the constant hypotheticals that has existed for basically two, three generations. Where people have answered here is an easy answer that AOC could give if she had in any way a functional brain. Right now, I am a congresswoman. I don't dictate foreign policy. But I think it's important that we maintain our longstanding policy of strategic ambiguity. Maybe one day down the line, if I remember sitting behind the Resolute desk, I'll have to reconcile what strategic ambiguity actually means. But today is not that day. Next question. I just did it off the top of my head. You and I are not eight year congresspeople. We are not professional politicians. You probably know way more about this by far than most professional politicians do because you just came back from Taiwan. But to be this poor at responding to a question that is not in any way difficult. Buck, if, if she had been asked, hey, there is a major issue right now on the border between India and Pakistan. Where should the border actually be drawn based on the inherent tensions that have existed in that region since the 1940s? What parallels should the line be? AOC like some questions you get asked and you could say, okay, like I understand why there's not a definitive answer there. This is not one of those. It's one of the most basic questions of rudimentary knowledge that anyone in American politics should be able to answer just immediately without even any difficulty whatsoever.
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Buck Sexton
I would, I would even raise the ante and do what you just did. It's even worse than that, Clay, because usually AOC knows what answer her audience wants to hear because she has come across this before. She doesn't even know which side of this she's supposed to be on.
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Clay Travis
Well, that's partly true for her side, right?
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Buck Sexton
So usually it would be, you know, if it's anything having to do with Israel, take the anti Israel side. And that's what, that's what her team wants. That's what the left, that's what the commies want. Anti Israel. That's what AOC has to do, right? There are some issues where it just falls into this bucket. Is it white people and brown people anywhere in the world, any issue got to favor the brown people. That's just what her audience demands. That's what her supporters expect. And then you sit here, you go, ok, on this one, she doesn't even know what side of it her supporters want her to be on. So it's yes, there's the lack of knowledge, the lack of information, that's clear. But beyond that there is, she hasn't even thought about this enough to know what rote answer she's supposed to give this. And I'm.
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Clay Travis
But I was going to say this ties in directly to your point, Buck. When she answered about Rubio saying, hey, there's a history of Europe even founded in the cowboys and how they came to exist. This ties in with that buck, where her default is just white people bad, brown, black people good. And that's going to be the metric under which I try to answer any question, but it just exposes her. Listen to this, Buck. Cut six. Talking about cowboys.
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Guest or Interviewee
Rubio's speech was a pure appeal to Western culture. My favorite part was when he said that American cowboys came from Spain.
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Cindy Crawford
I thought they came from Winnie.
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Guest or Interviewee
I believe the Mexicans and descendants of African enslaved peoples would like to have a word on that.
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Buck Sexton
She doesn't know. To be clear, that wasn't a misstatement. She doesn't know that there were no horses, nor was there any domestication of animals in the Americas, with the exception, as I pointed out on Twitter, of llamas by the Incas in South America. There was no. There were no horses. There were no cows that were domesticated in North America or at least in the, you know, 50 states or 48 states of America and Mexico and Clay. She doesn't know that the natives got their horses from the Spanish conquistadors. She doesn't know, it seems that Mexicans are descendants of Spaniards.
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Clay Travis
That's why they speak Spanish.
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Buck Sexton
There's a reason for. I was going to say there's a reason for unespanol in Mexico. They're not speaking Aztec down there.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, right. I also think her opening criticism. We've got one more cut from her. And I do think the disconnect in the average intellectual heft between Marco Rubio and AOC is, I don't know, 30, 40 IQ points, potentially, in terms of their ability to communicate and understand larger issues. Yes, Marco Rubio defended Western civilization because Western civilization is the foundation of all basically human progress throughout the past thousand years, 2,000 years, however far back you want to go. And this is also tying in to your point with she just kind of falls back on this identity politics clap trap, which is a camouflage for morons from having to actually engage on an intellectual level with complicated ideas where she says, again, brown and black people heroes. Whiteness is imaginary. I don't even know what that means. Cut seven.
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Guest or Interviewee
There's a very big difference between whiteness and national, like your actual culture. Right. Whiteness is an imaginary thing. Being German is real. Being Italian is real. You know, being English. These are rich Cultural heritages that are based on values, and they are so much a part of what make our. Our. Our cultures and our societies what they are.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, let's. Let's. Let's play this game for a second, though. So what is blackness? Just to be clear, what is. What is black culture, anyone? To play this game for a second? If you start saying things like, you know, jazz music, you know, I don't know, you know, basketball. That's African American. That's black American culture.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
So to her point, how is it any different? I'm pretty sure that the people of Mozambique think of themselves as living a different culture and different life than people who grew up in the suburbs of Philly or Chicago or in the city center. Pretty sure. So what exactly is her point? Somebody who talks about black and brown people all the time. Oh, that's right. Brown people, Peruvians and people from Malaysia. Very similar culture. Very similar. Well, are they all brown? They're brown. So what is brownness? What are black and brown people? In her context? This is what's so.
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Clay Travis
I mean, I think it's also funny, Buck. She says Western civilization isn't a thing, and then she goes and says British, German and Italian cultures are real and they should be proud. Like, she isn't even capable of maintaining a coherent line of thought because, and I do think this is important, identity politics has so overtaken the Democrat Party that they cannot look at anything outside the prism of colonizer and colonized. It so overtakes oppressor and oppressed. It so overtakes their mind and destroys their ability to think that they can't, cannot even acknowledge or understand historical context. As a result, we'll have some fun with this. We'll open up phone lines. I don't think we have any guests. Like Buck said, we are working when a lot of people are not, even though the vast majority of you in the private sector are working. A lot of public employees out today. 800-282-2882. Is that phone number. You can grab the iHeart app and you can give us talkbacks. We had a Great Week on YouTube. Want to encourage you to continue to interact there. Go subscribe. Impressive numbers starting to pop on a lot of the video version of this audio. And a reminder, we are now on satellite radio, channel123. So if you're on the road for some reason, driving back President's Day, and you're moving through different parts of the country, then you can grab us on channel 123noon Eastern Monday through Friday all over the country and I would imagine indeed around many parts of the world. But I want to tell you right now it's President's Day and Prize Picks is available in all 50 states including California, Texas, Florida and Georgia. You can download the prizepix app today. Use My name Clay as the code. You get $50 instantly in lineups when you play $5. Code Clay on Price Picks right now. Great company. They have had tremendous success. You guys love playing this super easy. All you have to do is pick more or less for two or more athletes in the sport of your choice. You can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play in Georgia all over the country. Download the Prize Picks app today. My Name Clay is the code $50 instantly in lineups when you play $5. That's code clay on prize picks for 50 bucks in lineups when you play $five win or lose $50 in lineups prizepix.com code clay.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Some sad news. Robert Duvall, 95 years old, legendary actor, Godfather, Apocalypse Now, To Kill a Mockingbird. I loved him. In one of the great westerns of all time, Lonesome Dove. For those of you out there who remember the miniseries based on the Larry McMurtry Pulitzer Prize winning book, he was McCall, Gus. He was Gus. And Call was played by Tommy Lee Jones. One of the great westerns. I think it was a miniseries on television. Probably the greatest miniseries of all time. Incredible thousand page book about a cattle drive from Texas to Montana. But Robert Duvall, and a lot of you obviously are going to remember him from Godfather. But Robert Duvall, dead at the age of 95. That has just come down in the past couple of minutes. You have a favorite Robert Duvall character.
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Buck Sexton
One in the Consulari Consolieri. And the Godfather is I think the. That's just. You can't be more iconic in a non leading role than that. I think, I think that was really. He was really good, sir, German, Irish, you know, I remember the whole Beverly goes. He goes, the guy, oh yeah, he wants the role. And he's like. And if he tries any rough stuff, I ain't a boy scout. Remember that whole thing then the horse's head in his bed. Godfather 1 is an incredible holds up and an incredible lot of old movies. People don't like to hear this. There's a lot of indicating not acting. They're too slow, whatever. Godfather 1 is incredible still to this day.
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Clay Travis
Great. I think you can make an argument Godfather 2 is better than Godfather 1, which is one of the rare of all time sequels that you can even make an argument is better than the original.
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Buck Sexton
A lot of people say that I'm. I'm in the camp that the original, the first one is still the best one. The second one is obviously a phenomenal movie too. I like the first one better just as a movie. I enjoyed it more. A lot of people of our parents generation I think would say that the Godfather is there. They think the best movie of all time. There's definitely a. Fair enough. If you look on like, like top 100 all time movie lists. Godfather is routinely 1 and 2 are routinely top 10, top 5.
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Clay Travis
Truly phenomenal. In fact, I was talking about the Godfather this weekend with my kids who haven't seen it yet. I was telling them I need to, to get it on. All right, let's play a couple of these other cuts we mentioned. Well, should I mention, should I update the Nancy Guthrie thing? I mean they still lead the news with it every single day. And so I figure there must be a huge segment of this population that is following it every single instant. Here is the latest on Nancy. Nancy Guthrie. Let me play it for you. TMZ now says that they have received a fourth different ransom note and that this, this email that they have received says that Nancy Guthrie is now in Mexico. It has been what, 16 days, I believe, since she went missing out in Arizona. And that is. Let me make sure I get this cut right. That is cut 32, I believe it is.
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News Reporter
Monday morning we have received a fourth letter from the same person who says that he knows where Nancy Guthrie is. And, and he wants money in return for the information. Essentially he wants the reward. So I have something to say to you, and I have already talked to the FBI about this, that if you are not real, you're committing A crime. And you should know that. And this is a serious federal crime if you are real. This is the fourth letter you've sent and I should tell everybody that in this letter it says I know what I saw 5 days ago south of the border and I was told to shut up. So I know who he is. And that was definitely Nancy with them. So I don't know if you're real or not if you're watching this, but if you are, if you're worried about getting this money and you really do have this information, send it to us. You're sending us these letters. Send it to us. We will forward it to the FBI.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so that is ongoing. It is obsessive coverage for two straight weeks. And candidly, very little in the in the realm of certainty that has come out. Savannah Guthrie has put out a video trying to address the people who have kidnapped her mom. Allegedly the search for the guy who was on, I'm presume it's a man that was on the video does not seem to have led to any tangible result there. So that is the latest on that one Buck, you were mentioning Obama. We'll get to him in the third hour for everything he had to say. But I did want to play this. Gavin Newsom, who is certainly running for president, went overseas to Munich and he said in Germany that ICE are basically Nazis. And this is the argument that is continuing to be made to go overseas to Germany, the birthplace of actual Nazis. And, and make this argument is I think even beyond the pale for Gavin Newsom. It also confirms that basically everybody that Democrats don't like is a Nazi or is Hitler. This is just a never ending argument that they are on the constant Nazi merry go round with. But here was Gavin Newsom saying this in Germany, the country that did produce actual Nazis owe today ICE agents enforcing America's immigration law. They're Nazis.
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Caller or Listener
Listen, I want to remember all those images of masked men, the secret police, something familiar in Germany. Those first images came out of my state, the second largest city in the United States of America. We saw 4,000 National Guard federalized, first time. We'd never seen anything like this. And 700 active duty Marines sent not overseas but to the second largest city in the United States of America. Militarizing the streets of my city. Masked men. Masked men showing up. Unaccountable. No idea. IDs.
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Clay Travis
Okay. I mean, look, as ridiculous as these arguments are, it's even more absurd to go to the birthplace of legitimate Nazis and argue that ICE are Nazis. And I will point Out Buck that right after President Trump got shot In July of 2024, Democrats came out and said, oh, the Nazi rhetoric has to stop. And then lasted about, what, two weeks? And then they went right back to, republicans are Nazis. Donald Trump's Nazi. Everybody that votes for Donald Trump is Nazi adjacent. And now ICE are the new Nazis.
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Buck Sexton
Well, but the problem that they have is, if Trump is a Nazi, why should the Nazi rhetoric stop?
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Clay Travis
And then you should go back to not kill him. Right. I mean, that's the real challenge of this. Right.
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Buck Sexton
He's actually the next level of the analysis.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, but they should kill it.
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Buck Sexton
The people who are saying, hey, maybe we tone down the Nazi rhetoric are people who have said, he's a Nazi. So if you've said he's a Nazi, why would you tone it down? If you've said it as a Nazi and he's not, that's the only reason you would tone it down. So they're essentially admitting that they're scumbag liars, which is not a surprise, but that's. That's where things are. It's also tiresome. But, Clay, that kind of psychological manipulation is very common among demagogues and among leftist totalitarian movements, which I get into in some detail in Manufacturing Delusion, the fantastic book available tomorrow on wherever fine.
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Clay Travis
Books are sold, including how many interviews are you. Where will people hear you promoting the new book, which is out tomorrow? And everybody should go by a whole.
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Buck Sexton
A whole bunch of shows. Some of. Some of your favorite conservatives are very kindly going to be having me on their programs, which you know will be a lot of fun. Not going to get on Rogan. I don't. I don't know what it is at this point. At this point, like, Rogan's had so many episodes. Neither you nor I have been on that show. Yeah, and at this point, it's like, what? I'm going to be episode number 6,000 in, like, the year 2055 or something. Like, you know, there's like, comedians I've.
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Clay Travis
Never heard of that.
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Buck Sexton
No one's ever heard of that. Go on there. People are coming back for, like, their eighth round. I'm just like, all right, man.
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Clay Travis
No love.
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Buck Sexton
No love from Joe. What can I tell you? It is. It is what it is. There are only two CIA guy writes what's clearly going to be a bestseller about mind control. Why would Joe Rogan want to talk about that book? I don't know. No interest.
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Clay Travis
Only two outlets that I would want to do that I haven't done. I mean, this honestly, Bill Maher, for whatever reason won't have me on. I think it has to do with the, the banning from CNN because they're owned, HBO and cnn. Same parent company, Warner Brothers. I would go on that show. You went on that show you've been on several times. It fun sort of Donny Brook over a variety of different issues. And then Joe Rogan is the other one I would put on. Otherwise like I don't even. I feel like I've done every. Well, the View. Right. I mean there are some that would just be fun to go on.
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Buck Sexton
I have a dream, Clay. I have a dream that one day the two of us will get to do the View together. And, and now maybe this is a fantasy more than a dream, but it would be a lot of fun. That's all I could say. It would be great time for everybody, all involved.
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Clay Travis
Well, were you on when I had Brendan Carr on, I think you were out that day, the chairman of the fcc. And I said, just so you know, because he's got. Continues to give guidance about the fact. I don't know if you saw this story. I think it's a huge story. I meant to share it on my Twitter feed about the unfair treatment of political ideas. Did you see Apple News, which is among the biggest of all news sources, has basically not linked Fox News, the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal. It only links left leaning news sources. And so if you're out there and you were just super busy and you get your iPhone and you used Apple News to inform you as to what is going on in the world. Apple News only cites left wing news organizations. It never ever cites, I'm talking about big organisms. I mean Fox News kind of big, the Wall Street Journal kind of big. New York Post, pretty big, never cites him. And so it's actually not only the citation, the site traffic that a site like that sends is a basically in kind contribution to the overall business itself. Because if you go look, and I know this because I ran outkick for a long time and you go look at the data on where traffic comes from. Even now in an AI age, Google Apple News, these big sort of news aggregating sites drive tremendous traffic that is translated into real dollars from an advertising perspective. And they're not even citing it. But we had Brendan Carr on, I pointed out to him, hey, you know, Buck and I emailed the ladies at the View because they argued that they invite conservatives but they just don't come on. And I thought Bill Maher was funny about this.
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Buck Sexton
Too.
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Clay Travis
Because Bill Maher said, yeah, basically every conservative that I invite comes on the show. Lots of left wingers won't come on because they are afraid of leaving their bubble where no one challenges their arguments.
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Buck Sexton
This is, this is something that I've been saying, Clay, for a very long time, which is starting even on like, I was a college Republican in the year, the first time in the year 2000. Okay? So going back quite a ways, starting in college and then all the way up through. If you happen to do anything in media, writing, TV work, any of that kind of stuff, radio, the right wing ecosystem was one of constant, you know, iron sharpens iron, right? It was constant heat and challenge and difficulty. And, you know, how do you get stronger? Through overcoming challenges, through resilience, through. Whereas the left wing, you got to just bounce from easy, overpaid gig. The easy overpaid gig. Huge ecosystem for you to go to, never challenged or whatever. They got intellectually flabby and flimsy and they got the media that they deserve as a result of that. It's really true. I, Clay and I have said talk about this before. We could sit here. There's a whole. I could name a dozen. And I mean big name people, right? Because the left, like, what about this guy who's like an assistant professor of this at Harvard who's also writing for, you know, HuffPost on the, on occasion. No, I mean their big names, our big names are way more competent and way more capable and intelligent than their big names in media. It's not even close. Not even close would absolutely smoke them. Not just Clay and me, a lot of the others out there too, our team, just better, smarter individuals because we've had to be. Because it wasn't, it wasn't possible to just go everywhere you wanted to go and have everyone applaud whatever dumbass stuff you had to say, which is true of a lot of people that worked at, you know, CNN and then ABC and then, you know, and at the BBC and then, you know, all these different. It's all the same crap.
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Clay Travis
Well, you have to know the full scope of arguments, which is the only way that you can actually be well versed. And I still think most people on the left have no earthly idea what arguments we make on this show. And I said, I mean, they don't even hear when their side people like AOC embarrass themselves at the Munich conference. It just doesn't even echo or ricochet inside of their world such that they can realize that they're supporting true ignoramuses.
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Show Promo Voice
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Buck Sexton
Third hour of clay and Buck on this President's Day where Clay and Buck are both working, as is our amazing team located in New York City. Some of you are on holiday, some of you get to celebrate the presidents. Kind of a weird holiday, isn't it, when you think about it? Well, what exactly is the holiday?
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Clay Travis
Well, it's just Washington's birthday and then they expanded it to Lincoln and now it's just kind of a weird construction.
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Buck Sexton
There's like expanded to Lincoln, but it's like we're doing a dual birthday. So what kind of, kind of nonsense is this? This is a little, little bit of. It's a weird. Let's be honest. Let's be honest, everybody. What is President's Day really for? Getting a great deal on a mattress, maybe a lawnmower, perhaps some outdoor furniture. Like, that's really what President's Day is all about. It's a time for businesses to establish a post Christmas sale when they can move inventory. Am I right or am I right?
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Clay Travis
I mean, that certainly is the thing you would see back in the day. I don't know that they advertise that as much. Back in the day when newspapers existed, there were always mattress cells. That was the big President's Day. I don't know that they really pull that anymore. But by the way, since it is President's Day and I know we're going to get to Obama, but did you see. I was actually stunned by something that I saw come down which I think is indicative of how successful they have been in defining modern day ideas of the presidency. Do you see the rankings for people today of who the best presidents are?
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Buck Sexton
Oh, no. Okay. I thought you were off roading as you tend to do and all of a sudden we're going to be talking about some football thing. No, this is actually about presidents directly on Presidents Day.
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Clay Travis
I mean, some of this is not going to surprise you. According to Americans. This is from YouGov. Abraham Lincoln is seen as the greatest president of all time. I think a lot of people would kind of nod along and say, you know, winning the Civil War, kind of a big deal. Ending slavery. George Washington, you don't like.
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Buck Sexton
I think you got to give G. I think G Dubs. It's got to be G Dubs.
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Clay Travis
I'm sorry, he's in third. This one really surprised me. John F. Kennedy is second.
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Buck Sexton
What? Get out of here. Trash. Trash.
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Clay Travis
Listen to this.
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Buck Sexton
A la poo bell in the trash.
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Clay Travis
Abraham Lincoln 1. John F. Kennedy, 2. George Washington, 3. This one surprised me a little bit. I think it's actually just a sign that people don't know there's more than one Roosevelt. Theodore Roosevelt, fourth place. And then Franklin Roosevelt, sixth place. Thomas Jefferson in fifth place. This one also surprised me. John Adams, who is like the big John Adams fans out there like that. He would be the seventh best president of all time. A little bit of a surprise.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I. Look, I think the founders, you got to give the, the early guys a little bit of a, you know, extra points for, you know, Washington. It's like if he, you know, Kamala messes up, she goes on a book tour, Washington messed up. He was going to get hanged. Right. It's a different deal.
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Clay Travis
And the whole country was potentially going to cease to exist either. Either way. Yes.
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Buck Sexton
But I'm saying maybe a little bit.
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Clay Travis
More significant for Washington than others.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah. I think you got to give Washington a little bit more. I think it's interesting that Jefferson doesn't appear on these lists.
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Clay Travis
Well, Jefferson is at 5 FD.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, he's at 5.
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Clay Travis
Okay, yeah. John Adams, 7. Ronald Reagan, 8. Madison, 9. And then it starts to get wonky. Obama, 9.
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Buck Sexton
Get out of. What list is this? Is this, is this communist.com?
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Clay Travis
What is this list of how Americans rate presidents? And this one blew my mind. Jimmy Carter plus six.
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Buck Sexton
The communists. This is all trash. The bots from India have made this thing up. There's no way.
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Clay Travis
What, what jumped out to me is, okay, Richard Nixon, not very popular. Joe Biden, not very popular. George W. Bush, a lot of current presidents, by and large, not very popular. But this one, Andrew Jackson minus three. And I don't think a lot of people think about this, but when they were trying to take Jackson off the $20 bill, which seems to basically have ended, they have basically created in the world the idea that all Andrew Jackson did in his eight years as president was the Trail of Tears. And I thought this was interesting because when you and I were in school, Andrew Jackson would have been considered one of the best presidents in the country. And they have been so successful at defining Jackson entirely based on the Trail of Tears that he now has collapsed in his overall popularity.
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Buck Sexton
Well, this is why this stuff matters, is because these fights over history are actually fights over the narrative in the present. Right? This is it all. It all is meant to influence our thinking and our feelings about what is in the here and now. There is power at the end stake with the history that we believe or with the history that we accept. And so that's why the left is always rewriting history as fast as they can. And you noted Nixon. I know we're all supposed to hate Nixon so much. The Democrat party in this country hated Nixon because he was a staunch anti communist and he was right about the fact that they were a bunch of damn commies and sold out the country at the highest levels. So they were kind of ticked off about that, so they tried to get him back. There's a lot of stuff that people don't. And you look up the Venona Project, which was a top secret military program about the penetrations of the United States government, all Democrats, by the way, including at some of the very highest levels of our government. This was a real thing. It was declassified in the 80s, I think it was. And the communist menace was far more. Kids don't even learn about this in school. And how many people even know about the Project Venona? There's very, very few. But Clay, my point on all this is, yeah, of course they want to find presidents of the past and Elevate them that are meant to push certain ideas and policies today. I mean, the notion of Barack Obama as a great president, that's, that's absurd. The notion of Jimmy Carter as a great president.
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Clay Travis
Jimmy Carter is even crazy.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I mean, I actually think that Carter probably did less damage actively. Barack Obama's signature thing. Well, you know, should we get into the Obama.
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Clay Travis
Well, yeah, let's get into. Let me hit you with one more thing because I think you made a good point about the fact that the history is being used to dictate the way we talk. Today. They tried to replace Andrew Jackson with Harriet Tubman. I think that's been somewhat forestalled. But remember, they were going to replace Alexander Hamilton on the $10 bill. But Hamilton the musical was so popular that they rescinded the idea of taking him off money. This is 200 years after he died in the duel with Aaron Burr. So if you're out there and you're thinking, oh, a lot of these guys have to have fixed historical records because it's been 200 years since they died. Jackson has been torn down really in the 21st century. Meanwhile, Alexander Hamilton, who was obviously never a president, has surged up entirely based on the way they're talked about today. It's not like they're continuing to alter the trajectory of their presidencies or we're still having fallout from it.
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Buck Sexton
That's because a lot of Americans, unfortunately, when they think of Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton, they think of a Puerto Rican guy rapping badly. So that's true.
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Clay Travis
That's why they get to stay on the $10 bill. I mean it is really crazy. Okay, on Obama, he did a sit down interview. He said a lot of things. Let's start running through this.
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Buck Sexton
This is the most, this is the most quintessential Obama thing in existence, which is to say something that is that he in fact is self refuting in the statement itself. He was sitting down with some left wing podcast guy and here we go. Obama, this is cut nine about how we, the right are angry and mean and divisive. Unlike them, the left, they, them who are warm, cuddly, fantastic and inclusive.
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Obama Clip
Play 9 the other side does the mean angry demagoguery. You know, exclusive us them, you know, divisive politics. That's their, that's, that's their home court. Our court is coming together. Our court is, look, you know, a great example. Wasn't political Bad bunnies halftime show.
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Caller or Listener
I knew you were going to say that.
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Obama Clip
Well, it was, it resonated. It was smart because it wasn't preaching, it was showing. It was demonstrating and displaying. This is what a community is, Clay.
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Buck Sexton
He's wrong on all counts. But I also love the unlike those other jerks, we're really nice and inclusive. We're the inclusive side while being exclusive of them. Barack Obama's tenure was, I think more than anything else, characterized by bringing back race riots in the 21st century. BLM 1.0. It brought people together while they were burning down neighborhoods out of anti white rage. That's not good.
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Clay Travis
I wonder how plugged in Obama actually is on very much that's going on. How much is him knowingly lying versus just not really paying that much attention to the day to day trajectories of politics. And the reason why I ask that is remember Kamala tried to call him out, you know, go to the bullpen, so to speak. And Obama came and tried to campaign for Kamala and I thought was really bad and seemed tone deaf. He lectured black guys that they needed to vote for her and that it was sexist of them not to be supporting Kamala in the same way that he was supported. And he never really got engaged with Biden at all because I think Obama knew Biden was out to lunch and wasn't able to actually do the job. And so when I see and hear these sit downs, he sounds pretty out of touch with what's going on right now. And obviously when you're the president of the United States, you have to be at least aware of what's going on. I think he's just a rich, out of touch leftist like many of the people that are in Hollywood right now. And what cut exactly did you play because there's so many of you?
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Buck Sexton
I played nine, but there's so many, so many others we can get into here. We could do the whole show just on Obama.
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Clay Travis
Cut 11. Obama says they have a much harder job than Republicans because they're not as mean other than trying to kill Trump a couple of times. Cut 11.
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Obama Clip
Yes, we have a harder job because sometimes I think we're tough on Democrats saying, why aren't you being as mean and tough and nasty as they're? Well, you know, when I was president of the United States, I suppose I could have simply unilaterally ordered the military to go into some red state and harass and intimidate a governor there or cut off funding for states that didn't vote for me. I could have exercised that prerogative. But that is contrary to how I think our democracy is supposed to work. And I think we shouldn't get discouraged by the fact that we have a tougher job.
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Buck Sexton
We should.
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Obama Clip
What we should do is expect that our side is smart enough to figure it out.
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Buck Sexton
Clay Obama explicitly threatened to cut off education funds to I think it was North Carolina over the bathroom gender policy bill. Essentially you have to let trannies use whatever bathroom they want or else we're going to in school or else we're going to cut off.
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Clay Travis
That's when the NBA. So he actually was star game, remember that?
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Buck Sexton
He was thuggish in his use of government power. He sued nuns for heaven's sakes. And he's complaining about Trump enforcing immigration law. Really, he's a nice guy.
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Clay Travis
I would like to hear someone interviewed who is on the left and I would like the question to be we hit a 125 year low in murders. Do you think Donald Trump deserves any credit for that at all? Because you're talking about him sending troops into red states and sorry, whether Obama could have done it sending troops into blue states. The results of that have been that way. More people who tended to vote Democrat are alive today than otherwise would I would just like to hear somebody say does Trump deserve any credit at all? Do you think the southern border being the most secure than it's ever been in our life, do you think that is in any way connected to us setting 125 year low for murders? What answer will they I'd like to hear AOC really answer that because whatever you think about Obama, he's smart. AOC is a moron. We'll continue to talk about this. We'll take your calls. We got some interesting talkbacks. As I said to finish off the second hour of the program, I did not expect to be criticized for what we are being criticized for, but we will play it. Power outages can happen without warning weather disruptions. One reason wildfire preparation, another, protecting homes and lands from downed power lines that are live. We just had to deal with hundreds of thousands of people being without power, some for as many as nearly two weeks in my hometown of Nashville. I'm down in Florida right now and I was talking to people here who were in the Oxford, Mississippi area which was maybe the most hard hit in the entire country with the recent huge winter storm that swept through some people without power hour for weeks in the Mississippi area. Rapid radios can help you stay in touch no matter what happens. When it comes to catastrophic weather, whether it's tornado, tornadoes, whether it's snowstorms, whether it's hurricanes, this can make a ton of difference for you. If you go to rapidradios.com right now, you can check out the new Rad1, see the full emergency features and grab the launch offer while it's still live. When the world goes quiet, make sure you don't communication redefined only@rapidradios.com that's rapidradios.com.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Of Martin I Know it for a Shaft. That's the only place I ever remember hearing that intro.
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Buck Sexton
Is this Crash. Are you just. You just running a playlist in circa 1970-1975? Is that what you are? Is that how you're rolling here for the show? Just so I know. So we're all clear on this one because this up. Oh, okay. That's. He's not even picking it all. I thought he was in charge of. Of DJing this thing because I'm learning new songs here. I have no idea what some of this stuff is. So some of some of the funky tunes. Oh, Mike left. Producer Mike is out right now and he left some Some tracks behind for us to.
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Clay Travis
To groove out having surgery. We wish him well. I don't know if he'll be listening to the program as he's recuperating, but we hope he's getting back safe and sound.
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Buck Sexton
So we have a bunch of things to get to. We were just though, talking about the. The Mafia thing. I will say that was always the problem we had. We had a listener get very mad that we're promoting them like the Mafia, which I don't think that's what we're doing. The Godfather is kind of a universally celebrated film. There are plenty of movies, you know.
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Clay Travis
I could say the Exorcist things that we could get. By the way, the reason we were talking about the Godfather is this is a sad story. Robert Duvall died 95 years old. So we were talking about all the movies that he had been in that were iconic. And the Godfather is one of those roles. I said Lonesome Dove, which is one of the great westerns of all time. I did not anticipate that we would be criticized for saying The God Godfather 1 and 2 are good films worthy.
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Buck Sexton
I didn't see that one coming. But I will say I. I think in general that the. The Italian mafia in America has gotten far more generous pop culture treatment than it actually deserves. That's my. And I had a. An uncle in law enforcement who worked against the mob in New York for a while. And he. This was a thing. He would. He would kind of. To stand on this one. He would. He would say he would stand on this hill and he would say that the notion that these guys, they're all just, you know, they're honorable family guys who got to do what they got to do. I mean, there may be a little bit of that, but there was a lot of. I'm sending two thugs to collect the gambling debt and I'm going to break, you know, this single father's kneecaps unless they give me the money. Like that's actually what they were doing.
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Clay Travis
So is it fair to say, I think this is probably accurate, that whatever criminal element you were in, it has been better received? Like there aren't that many in the last 20 years. I would say good guy, bad guy setups. It feels like the bad guys have become the anti hero. No matter whether it's the mob, whether it's drug dealing, whatever it is, they have flipped the script on good guys.
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Buck Sexton
Right?
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Clay Travis
Like, who is the last real good guy that was popular in popular culture? And he didn't have a dark side. I Was why. The reason I was actually thinking about this because Laura last night as we got ready for bed was watching Little House on the Prairie. Whatever you think about Little House on the Prairie, it was a top show for eight or nine years. And all we talked about this before. All of the father figures are just really good. Like Michael Landon is just a really. Pa. Is a really good guy. When's the last show that was popular where the good guys are just good?
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Buck Sexton
Well, this is now you're getting into the broader, broader theme of. I think in general, Hollywood has. And the creative industries in this country in general have just have pushed a lot of degeneracy. And a lot of, you know, we grew up and there would be shows. And now I'm giving up the game here because Clay and I actually watch the same shows because he would have been in high school at the same time. But the we. There were shows like Full House. Danny Tanner, which is funny because Bob Saget in Rest in Peace in real life was kind of a salty comedian. But. But Danny Tanner, salty on. On Full House, was like lovable, reliable dad, all about his kids. You know, wife had died, I think of cancer or something on the show. I forget what the backstory was, but. Same thing with Carl from Full House. I'm sorry, not Full House. Family Matters. Lovable dad, cop, middle class, black family. You know, everybody.
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Clay Travis
Same thing with Fresh Prince, Uncle Phil the Kid. I know what happened with Bill Cosby, but.
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Buck Sexton
No, I know this is. We always do the Cosby thing. Like, you know, there's Cosby the character versus. You got to be able to separate these things a little bit. So. Yeah, Fresh Prince, by the way, you know, that house is up for. That house is like a 60 million dollar house now that they.
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Clay Travis
That they used as the base.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. No, it's not like a nice house. It's a crazy nice house. Is that.
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Clay Travis
Well, that they. The growing pains, like you run through Tony Danza, who's the boss, every dad, Tim Allen.
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Buck Sexton
These dads were dedicated, competent, masculine, handsome, or handsome enough. And then we kind of got into the era of dads are all kind of schlubs. Or the only dads that can be competent are dads that are sort of non traditional. You know, they have something about them that is, you know, maybe there's two dads. Then the dads can be good. Like, you start to look at this and you go, what really is the messaging that is being sent? I think that this is. I think it's very real. I don't Think this is something that we sound like church lady from SNL over here. Like well isn't that special? Like I think that there's actually a real thing behind this and it's. You know who I would say? Coach Eric Taylor.
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Clay Travis
Friday Night Lights, last great dad character on television.
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Buck Sexton
He's a great. I also, I'm like a Carl Kyle Chandler super fan is like I like him at everything he's in, I think. And if you haven't seen Friday Night Lights, it's a little weird because they have like 30 year old Abercrombie models playing like 16 year old high school kids. You got to get past that for a second which is they don't really do. You know they actually have people that play their age much more now know there. It wasn't too long ago I even showed you Clay. Well, my mom played a high school student in Summer of My German Soldier. She was in her 20s and had two kids. She was playing a 16 year old.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, right. It was very common. I mean very common. 210 is the most like back in the day, I mean you had people who were in their 30s.
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Buck Sexton
Like Andrea was in her 30s playing.
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Clay Travis
Zuckerman was like 35 playing a 16.
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Buck Sexton
I've never seen someone in their 30s and I'm like they look like they're in high school. Like that's not a thing. So that was something that we all just accepted in television for a while. Was very weird. Friday Night Lights has a little bit of that. Like some of the characters are well cast but some of them look way my. The guy who gets paralyzed in the show, to me he looks like he's, you know, in his late twenties. And also Tyra. There are no high school girls that look like Tyra. She went on to play like a Marvel superheroine or whatever right after this. Like that's.
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Clay Travis
I met her in high school. I got to meet her once. I. I was such a fan of Friday Night Light. She was in the. At the hotel bar by the Fox lot and, and I went over and said I'm a huge fan. But I mean to your point, we basically have eliminated dads from pop culture and there are no positive dad pop culture characters. And I think there is a huge opportunity to push back against the counterculture and solve this issue. I think there's a demand for it.
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Guest or Interviewee
Have you.
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Buck Sexton
Is the Tim Allen show is that one that I didn't forget what people. I. I always get lit up for not having watched. I really have not seen Tim Allen's st stuff And I know everyone says he's great, and is he a dad?
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Clay Travis
The Last man standing is good. He's great in the Santa Claus, which a lot of people will see every Christmas season as a, you know, failed or struggling dad. But I think there just became this idea. We're talking about the mob. Tony Soprano, to me, became the ideal father figure, and it just descent meaning in terms of what they wanted to create in. In. In art, in. In shows. And then it descended from Soprano and just got worse and worse.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I guess they. They have to, because they can't have. You hate the guy. But the truth is, they're always like, he's not really a mobster, because he always will kind of draw this line of not doing the thing that's like, really goes too far. And the truth is, that's not the way that these guys operate.
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Clay Travis
And, well, and then they.
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Buck Sexton
They hurt a lot of. They hurt and threaten a lot of. Of innocent, defenseless people. That's actually what organized crime does. Like, no one makes these excuses for the Russian mob. Like, the Russian mob is particularly ruthless with what they do back home in Russia. It's one of the ways they enforce. I worked with an NYPD guy who spent his whole career in the Russian mob. I used to ask him questions about this all the time. And he says that they hear. They just want to rip people off and run scams. But if you're part of the Russian community and you rat or you do, they'll get your family back in Russia. That's actually how they. They go after people a lot of the time, and they're absolutely ruthless. No one's like, yeah, but they're family guys, you know what I mean?
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Clay Travis
You know, who never has a positive portrayal, probably deservedly so. Cartels. There's no, like, oh, the cartels are actually pretty good guys.
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Buck Sexton
And, I mean, Sosa and Scarface is pretty slick, but I hear you, Sosa. You're like, if I have to hang out with a cartel guy, this guy, I bet he throws great dinner parties.
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Clay Travis
Most of the Mexican cartel stories or the Latin American stories, the bad guys are pretty bad. But anyway, I. I do think it's emblematic that this conversation came out of the guy being upset. The movie is fantastic. It isn't aspirational. And it reminds me of. Do you remember when I thought Julia Roberts actually had a great response on this, but when Pretty Woman came out, so the Julia Roberts started getting criticized, and they said, you know, my daughter now wants to grow up and be a hooker.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, I agree with the Pretty Woman criticism. I think Pretty Woman is a trash movie. It's bizarre. The whole thing makes no sense.
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Clay Travis
But her argument was, well, it's. You shouldn't be showing Pretty Woman to like a 10 year old.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's like, that's a, that's also true. Yeah, but, but I think that's a little bit of a cop out because the whole. If you think about Pretty Woman, it's a horrible movie. Like, I mean, I would say horrible. I'm not saying it's not entertaining. I'm not saying it's not entertaining. But if you look at what this is about, first of all, I mean, I don't know, you know, are you.
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Clay Travis
Suggesting that super rich guys who are good looking like Richard Gere don't and.
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Buck Sexton
Fundamentally kind and decent aren't picking up hookers on rodeo or not a rodeo drive on Hollywood Boulevard and then having them live with them for the week? Yeah, not so much. It is an absurd and honestly grotesque movie, but it's got a good soundtrack and you know, everyone's supposed. I'm also, by the way, Julia Roberts overrated. Oh maybe, maybe even, I mean not quite as overrated as Natalie Portman, but still overrated. I don't care what anyone says.
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Clay Travis
I think Julia Roberts back in the day, I was going to say, you know what movie really doesn't stand up big.
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Buck Sexton
Oh yeah.
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Clay Travis
Weird, weird, big, which made like $500 million back in the day and starred Tom Hanks, is. If you watch big today, you're like, this is a super, super weird movie, like on so many different levels. Go back, go back.
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Buck Sexton
I thought that, I thought the recent movie with the. I said it's the woman who falls in love with her aquarium pet, the shape of water this woman falls in. It won the best picture clay like five years ago or something. It's a woman who basically like a weird amphibious thing. Amphibious? Well, she's saying. Producer Alley's saying splash.
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Clay Travis
Splash is like mermaid.
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Buck Sexton
Mermaids are, you know, I mean, a mermaid. You got the top half. This human.
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Clay Travis
Also, the mermaid is clearly not real. Right. Like, right. Just FYI, I don't want to kill any of the big mermaid truthers out.
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Buck Sexton
There, but, but the, the shape of water. This is a full on like amphibious monster. And she's like, let's, let's, let's get down with some, some naughty time.
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Clay Travis
Were you on a date? How did this end up on your repertoire of watching films?
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Buck Sexton
It was years ago. I probably was on a date. I. Everything that's really bad that I get dragged.
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Clay Travis
This doesn't sound like what. Hey, you know what I want to do in my free time? I want to watch the Shape of Water. This sounds like something you got dragged.
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Buck Sexton
Picture Oscar. Not like it was nominated, Clay. It won Best Picture. It's not even a good movie. And it has. This woman was falling in love with a. The whole thing is bizarre degeneracy, pure degeneration. And people get mad at me because they say I don't like everything. That's not true because like on Netflix, I said the rip, which you liked, by the way, which is a totally. Clay. Clay.
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Clay Travis
My standard for movies is do I sit and watch it for two hours and not look at my watch to know how I couldn't get through it?
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Buck Sexton
I couldn't even fit. I bailed. Last like half hour. I'm like, this movie is so, so dumb. Makes no sense at all. But people ask the Netflix. Netflix has got great movies. The recent Frankenstein movie on Netflix, if those of you who actually read the original, I heard that.
- [67:21]
Clay Travis
I've seen it advertised.
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Buck Sexton
Really good. It's a beautiful rendition of the true Frankenstein tale. And it's done by. Not Benicio del Toro, the other del Toro, whatever his name is. You know, the. Not the actor, but the directors. Guillermo. Guillermo del Toro and. And also the. The All Quiet on the Western front. Netflix movies. One of the best. One of the best movies I've ever seen. Maybe even a top 10 war movie. Definitely top 20. So they do do some good stuff. I'm not just here to trash things, but man, the Shape of Water was like brain damage.
- [67:55]
Clay Travis
I think there's a lot of. Again, I just go back and I was thinking about it even more as I watched Little House. I think I'm just telling you, if you're out there, Full House, Fresh Prince, Family Matters, Growing Pains, Cosby show, who's the Boss? If you grew up in the 80s or the 90s, you have very positive association with that. That there is a huge demand, I think for dads and moms who live in a house and like each other, sometimes argue and. Or the family ties, like all of these shows back in the day, they were so good and so popular. I don't believe that that demand has vanished. I really don't. I think that there is an ample opportunity to satisfy a market that has not been served in a long time with good options there. But I gotta tell you, if you want to relive some nostalgia, if you want to go back into the 80s, the 90s, maybe the 70s, the 60s, the 50s. Whatever old media you have, if you would like to digitize it and have it available for everyone out there in your world, that's exactly what Legacy Box does. They take old VHS tapes, slides, film reels, boxes of loose photos, and they digitize them so you can make sure they're preserved forever. Legacy Box is the company that does it best. Founded over a decade ago, Legacy Box has a team of 200 technicians. I went into their Chattanooga studio. I was blown away by what good work they do. And I'm actually going to be seeing these guys on Monday. We're doing an event in the Nashville area. And I love everything that Nick and Adam have done. The company that they have built. Get hooked up right now with a great offer. 50% off today. If you go to legacybox.com clay you get to keep your originals. They'll digitize them, they'll send it. You can share it with the entire family. Preserve your family's history for the rest of your lives and the young people out there. Legacybox.com clay for 50 off, that's legacybox.com.
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I think when you're diagnosed with cancer.
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Buck Sexton
You crave a semblance of normalcy and control.
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Guest or Interviewee
And so work allowed me to be me.
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Clay Travis
So I think it's really important that companies stay flexible.
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Guest or Interviewee
Cancer in A diagnosis can be all.
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Clay Travis
Consuming, but it doesn't have to be.
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Buck Sexton
Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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