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Clay Travis
In Clay Travis BUCK Sexton Show Rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Buck will be back tomorrow. We are joined now by Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt. Lots going on. Let's just start here. Senator, appreciate you making the time to come on. What is the latest on the on the shutdown? We haven't even really hardly talked about it very much. I know it's going to in theory be resolved sooner rather than later, but what should we know about the latest details on that front?
Senator Eric Schmitt
Yeah, essentially last Friday the Senate passed out all of the appropriations bills, the Democrats in a two week CR for the DHS funding and that is what's now in front of the House. And so the Democrats, here's my perspective. I want to thank them actually for giving us two weeks now to talk about illegal immigration. I mean this is a home game for us. And all these ridiculous demands that they have related to ice, they just don't work. It makes it harder for ICE to do their jobs. But what we should be demanding on our end if we're going to do anything is ending sanctuary cities. That's the root cause of all this play. You don't see this trouble anywhere else in the country where these operations are happening in red states and blue states, except in the sanctuary jurisdictions where they're making it very difficult for ICE officers to do their jobs. And the politicians are fomenting this rage and encouraging people into these confrontations. So the punchline is my hope is that the House probably tomorrow passes that and then that continuing resolution will last for two weeks. The Democrat Democrats will want some stupid stuff. We'll say no. We want good stuff. They may say no to that and then we'll fund dhs. The other last thing I'll say is in the working class tax cut from last summer, the one big beautiful bill we front loaded because we knew this was coming. Front loaded. Four years worth of funding for deportations in that bill. So the Democrats can whine all they want, but these deportations are going to continue.
Clay Travis
You're a lawyer. I'm a lawyer. I am totally still in disbelief of a couple of things that are that are occurring and I'll go to the first one. Sanctuary city seem to me to be a flagrant violation of federal law. We have the Supremacy clause. How in the world. Is this even allowed to occur legally?
Senator Eric Schmitt
That's a great question. It shouldn't be. But one of the things I think worth pointing out is what we haven't done yet, what I and Senator Graham are proposing, went on the floor last week to propose was to say we're going to end sanctuary cities. And here's how if you're violating federal law, you're going to go to jail. The politicians, because they know better, it's obvious, it's clear you don't get to. What they do is, Clay, is they withhold information. Think how ridiculous this is. They really won't tell ICE agents when rapists and child molesters are getting out of prison. That's how messed up this is. They don't even want that because illegal immigration is effectively the Democrats religion now. Everything begins and ends with the idea that they don't actually believe in sovereignty. They don't really believe borders should matter. They think anybody can come here and stay as long as they want and you can't be a sovereign country, no country can, if that's what you believe. And so I think we're at a really important moment right now in the history of our country and Republicans cannot yield here. We cannot back down. And that's the role that I'm sort.
Todd Ricketts
Of playing right now.
Clay Travis
All right. One other one that I think is significant, we actually had the attorney general of Missouri on talking about it last week with us, the continued counting. And I think this impacts Missouri certainly when it comes to congressional seats, the continued counting of illegal immigrants for purposes of census. Supreme Court hopefully will take this up and give us an answer once and for all. But it artificially creates a great disconnect between where the congressional seats are being allocated. I keep talking about it because I think very few people are actually aware nationwide that illegal immigrants are counted for purposes of the 435 seat House apportionment.
Senator Eric Schmitt
Yeah, no, that's right. I'm in the same position with that, Clay. I don't think a lot of people know that, that you don't actually have to be a citizen to be counted in the census. And that affects congressional districts, it affects where federal dollars go. There's all sorts of consequences to it. And if we solve that issue, which if you ask a straight up question to the American people, do you believe that illegal immigrants should be counted or should be able to vote? I mean, that's it. We talk about 80, 20 issues. That's a 9010 issue. And we have to take that on because the Democrats and that's why ultimately, they're losing their minds over the deportations. If you want to really understand why. It's about power. They know that if we did things where. If we deported people and only counted citizens in this country, the Democrats would be in a. I don't want to say a permanent minority, but they wouldn't be able to have these. These spells of being a majority party. It's all based on, honestly, why illegal immigration is so important to them.
Clay Travis
Okay, let's go into something you and I both love. It's super bowl week, and I know your Chiefs are not going to be in the super bowl for the first time in what feels like 40 years, but college football and college basketball is a complete and total mess. And I ran into you in D.C. and we talked about it a little bit. Is there a role for the federal government to try and figure out what should happen going forward with college sports? I heard one of your interviews you did recently talking about this, and what do you think it should be? How do we fix this? Because I think there's a. There's an idea that this is broken, and it's correct that it is broken. Yeah.
Senator Eric Schmitt
And I think the way to look at this. So I was skeptical for a long time of Congress playing a role. I think most people would. You know, they love their sports, and they don't want Congress to have anything to do with it. But I do think we're approaching a time where Congress needs to come in, and here's why. There's been litigation over the last half dozen years or so, or going back a decade on name, image and likeness, where effectively, college players, their images were being used for EA Sports and they weren't compensated. Maybe they'd throw them a, you know, an Xbox or something, but they were never being compensated. They're never being paid. And I think that was, you know, one end of the spectrum that was wrong. As a practical matter, I think these guys should get paid. I think they should be able to transfer. Probably once something like that, if a coach leaves, they should be able to leave. Things like that. But. But basically, these court decisions, Clay, have ruled the NCAA totally ineffective. Like, they can't. And the NCAAs had a lot of problems, but they can't establish any rules. And so now you have really kind of a wild west where people are moving every. I mean, you probably have a player, really, if you talk to these SEC coaches like you and I do for maybe six months, you're in a constant negotiation. Things are moving. There's agents that are in here that shouldn't be agents. There's, there's a lot of bad advice. So there's two aspects of this. The first is governance. In exchange for Congress giving liability protection to the NCA or some other governing body, they would establish rules of the road, like transparency with who the agents are. You have a two year contract, you can transfer once. Unless a coach leaves. Things like that that make total common sense, there'd be an entity empowered to go do that. The second piece of it is the revenue side. And so a lot of people are talking about this. Like if you think about it, the NBA has half the audience of college football, but twice the revenue. The NBA all kind of rights include.
Todd Ricketts
Is about 8 billion.
Senator Eric Schmitt
If you pool all of college football or all of college football, you're a little short of 4 billion. Now if they were able to pool that like the NFL does, MLB does, the NBA does, they could probably double the revenue that the, that the NBA has. And then you solve this really important issue that the SCORE act that Cody Campbell's talking about of protecting Olympic sports, protecting the non revenue sports, there's enough money to have those programs in place. College football is the juggernaut here, would make gobs and gobs more money than.
Todd Ricketts
They have right now.
Senator Eric Schmitt
And I really believe you could probably get to a place where the big ten in the sec, which are the big dogs in this and rightfully so, that they don't feel like they're losing out either, that everybody really benefits. You got the governance side and then you have the revenue side. And the only way that works is if Congress gives them liability protection to go do both of those things and.
Clay Travis
Some form of antitrust protection in that context of liability. Right. Because otherwise you're getting sued. So is there a bill that's working on that? Because I think a lot of people who are college sports fans are kind of nodding along and saying, yes, this is broken. And I think a lot of people are skeptical that Congress candidly can fix anything. But is there a bill that would fix all of what you just laid out? What's the process?
Senator Eric Schmitt
Yeah, and first and foremost, you know, we're talking about, obviously I have a passion for sports, so do you. So this is stuff that I actually love. I don't want a bunch of politicians messing this up either. But the only entity in our country that can give the antitrust, you know, sort of accept exemption that effectively MLB and NFL has to bargain with with rights holders is Congress. So Congress, if you're going to Fix it has some role in at least allowing them to go negotiate what this thing looks like. So there's the SCORE act, which really deals with the governance piece. It's hey, let's protect, you know, these Olympic sports and all these other non revenue sports by having certain rules. You have transparency, you have contracts, things that are kind of like basic governance. And then, you know, something that a lot of us are looking at, including me being on the Commerce Committee, is how do you address that revenue side? How do you allow the NCA or how do you allow college football really effectively to go negotiate, get a lot more money, more bang for your buck and then make everybody whole and do much better? Because I think if you've ever been around in like state house politics, anytime they want to do something with like a school funding formula, like which district gets which money, you know, for this, if you're dealing with a mentality of scarcity, it's really, really hard to do. But if people feel like everybody could benefit in different ways, that's how you could ultimately get there. So that's something that I'm working on. And there's a few of us, Senator Cruz is involved with it. There's a lot of people on the Commerce Committee because the Commerce Committee has a jurisdiction over amateur and professional sports.
Clay Travis
And that's some sort of sports broadcast act. Is that what I understand that there is for the second part?
Todd Ricketts
Yeah, yeah.
Senator Eric Schmitt
So a sports broadcasting act was adopted in the early 1960s that gave these professional sports leagues the ability to negotiate as one. Because look, if you were the NFL and you were trying to negotiate with CBS or Fox, there would clearly you're under typical antitrust law, you'd be colluding, you'd be all be kind of colluding to do it. So Congress said, no, you're a league, you can go do that collectively. And that's what the sports. If you amended the Sports Broadcasting act you do for college football, you say, look, all these member institutions are protected from being sued for antitrust by colluding to, you know, negotiate with CBS or Fox or whoever, because everybody would benefit. But again, if they tried to do that without amending the Sports Broadcasting act, they just wouldn't be able to do it. So that's why Congress has a role potentially here.
Clay Travis
This is all super interesting. I know a lot of people who get in the weeds on this love that analysis. Who's going to win the super bowl this weekend? Are you taking the Seahawks or the Patriots?
Senator Eric Schmitt
Man, I don't know.
Clay Travis
I love that you have answers for every subject under the sun. But when I asked you a Super bowl pick, you're like, oh, man, this is a tough one.
Senator Eric Schmitt
I don't know. I think the Seahawks. If I. I think the Seahawks. I just. I think the Seahawks.
Todd Ricketts
That's what I'll go with.
Clay Travis
I'm picking Seahawks 24, 21 over the Patriots. That's my pick. I'm giving it out early this week. I'm headed up for the to do program that should.
Senator Eric Schmitt
We'll see what happens. But this year, Josh Shirts has done a great job with slu.
Clay Travis
I know they're great. Only had one loss last time I checked, and they are on a roll. Appreciate the time, Senator. We'll have you on again, I'm sure. But in the meantime, appreciate all this. Enjoy the game.
Senator Eric Schmitt
All right, brother. Take care.
Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Our number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck is at Kennedy Space center hanging out with Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War and the new head of NASA. Jared Isaacman I believe is his name. Team can correct me if I blew that or not. Andy said that we may be invited to watch a spaceship take off on the trip to the moon. That's pretty fun. So thanks to Buck for running around there as we get ready for I believe it's Artemis 2 which is going to be the next big NASA departure that is scheduled to travel around the moon. We will find out all the details on Buck's trip tomorrow when he will be back in studio with us. I am out in Los Angeles right now. I'm in California for the week. And so I'm hanging out with a lot of you who are behind enemy lines. It feels like one of our biggest audiences, not surprisingly, on the raid, maybe it does surprise some of you. Partly it's a function of population, but one of my favorite stats blew people's minds. Didn't happen in 2024, but more people in California voted for Donald Trump in 2020 than voted for Donald Trump in Texas. Let me repeat that because a lot of people say now, again, partly it's a function of the population, but I think it goes to show how many people are behind enemy lines here. In the 2020 election, more people voted for Donald Trump in California than voted for Donald Trump in Texas. Everybody thinks of Texas deep red state and thinks of California as a deep blue state. But I do think it's always worth keeping in mind that whatever political persuasion you have, in most parts of the country, at most it's 65, 35, 60, 40 in one way or the other. Even Wyoming and West Virginia, which are the two biggest Trump states in the country, have 30% blue voters. Now. They're drastically overwhelmed. But no matter what state you live in, I do think it's worth remembering that there are lots of people that agree with you. Even if we generally speaking say red or blue states, there are still a lot of people in California behind enemy lines, so to speak. Okay, so we just played you the cut as we went to break of a Rolling Stone reporter asking Jelly Roll the entertainer what he thought about the anti ice comments from one of the entertainers, Billie Eilish, among others, who were just ripping ice to shreds last night during the Grammys. And I said, I want to take you behind the scenes and let you know exactly what's going there on there. Because once you see it, I think you'll be able to understand even more so how this narrative story is created. So we have historically opinion people and we have news people. Right? That is the general concept. And it's designed in a way so that old school. If you were in the newspaper, the front part of the newspaper you would read would theoretically be the news. News, the facts, what actually happened, laying it out for you so that you could understand what exactly was going on. And then in the back you would have the editorial pages where you would have columnists or opinion, guest op ed writers, they would tell you what they think of the news. And so there was a difference between news and opinion. And then the Internet happened. And in the Internet something really interesting happened. And I've written A lot about this. And if you're really fascinated by it, you should go read some of my books. But I think you're going to understand, and I think it's important for you to understand how everything shifted back in the day. Media companies, most of them, and a lot of them still do, like this show, for instance. But really, in media, there's only two ways to make money. There's only two ways that you really make money in media. One is advertising. If you listen to this radio program, the reason why this radio program makes money is advertising. We have commercial reads, people who want to reach you with their product. They pay. I heart and buck and I talk to you. And the way that this show makes money is advertising dollars. Which is why we say we always want you to support the advertisers here because they are the reason that this show exists. Okay, so advertising. And it's been an advertising media dominated industry for a long time. But of late, subscriptions have come in and subscriptions have changed the way that media operates, because subscriptions basically fuel everything. At the New York Times, at the Washington Post, subscriptions are the reason now that they make money. And if you think about when most of us grew up, if you got a newspaper and I got three of them printed for myself this morning, I may be the only person in America who's got the Wall Street Journal, the LA Times and the New York Times sitting in front of him in print right now. When I was on my Southwest Airlines flight last night, I got on with a bunch of newspapers and the flight attendant said, do you know how long it's been since I've seen anybody old school with actual newspapers? I am the last print reader. What made money back in the day for newspapers? They made money by delivering ads to you. And the way that they charged more money. Think about it from a business perspective. The only reason the newspaper existed was to deliver ads to your front porch. All of the articles were the reason that you might buy the newspaper. And remember back in the day, classified advertisements was the place that newspapers made the most money and Craigslist destroyed that business. But primarily, they didn't make money off subscriptions. They would give you the newspaper for free. Often if they knew that, you would read it. Remember USA Today? Probably the worst newspaper that exists in America today. You stayed in a hotel room, you got a USA Today. It was the nation's most widely distributed newspaper. Mostly trash. But the entire business model was, we want to get the newspaper in front of you. And then the advertising market collapsed to A large extent, because classified ads, which were the most valuable part for newspapers, it collapsed. Most people don't get printed newspapers anymore. I'm old school, I do. And as if that were not bad enough, the Internet dollars for advertising were a pin prick of what you could get in print advertising. Why? Because back in the day you used to be able to restrict how many ads you could have in a newspaper. Right? A full page ad in a newspaper, there's only so many of them. Same thing for magazine. Okay, I'm giving you the history of media here and explaining what's happening. So they had to shift and they had to become subscription based businesses. Advertising doesn't work for many of these media companies anymore. New York Times, L.A. times, Wall Street Journal. When they were trying to reach the broadest possible audience, they at least had to have some modicum of even handedness because you wanted to reach everybody, Democrat, Republican, Independent. In all honesty, the New York Times wanted to sell to everybody. The LA Times, the Wall Street Journal, okay? When they shifted to a subscription model, then people only wanted to hear good things about their favorite team. So all of these newspapers, they no longer break news, they're just propaganda because they shifted from ad to subscription based businesses. What is one way I talked about the news in the front of the newspaper, the opinion in the back? Reporters are becoming least less and less valuable. But many of them are super political in nature. The idea of a 100% unbiased reporter has mostly blown up in social media because you've seen the way that these people behave. But most of them don't have very substantial audiences and most of them want to be in the opinion business, but they're in the news business. So how do they get to the actual opinion side? They ask slanted questions that allow them to use the answers they get that have the opinions that they have. They slant it. Can I play the jelly roll question again for you? I want you to listen to this. This is a Rolling Stone reporter. She's supposed to be there just covering the news. She wants ICE to be ripped by a celebrity who is more famous than her so that her news story can be celebrity rips ice. Listen to that question again. We just had Billie Eilish Win and she mentioned in her speech, she talked about this topic that's so big tonight.
Todd Ricketts
Would you be willing to comment on.
Clay Travis
What'S going on in our country right now? Would you be willing to say what I'm not allowed to say because I'm an unbiased newscaster? Jelly Roll, will you Say what I wish I could say. And it's happening in sports and there's almost no pushback. Well, we've started to push back. Steve Kerr said, for those of you who do not know, he is the Golden State warriors coach. He said that ICE wasn't arresting any violent criminals recently in a press conference. Well, outkick the site that I sold to Fox, got credentialed, went to a Golden State Warrior game and asked this question this weekend of Steve Kerr holding him accountable for the lies that he told. This is what we need more of if celebrities are going to decide that they are going to be outspoken when it comes to politics. Listen, you're right. I definitely misspoke. And I knew that ICE was arresting.
Todd Ricketts
Two criminals, and I think I immediately.
Clay Travis
Regretted it because I knew that to be the case. But my point is that they're also arresting people and detaining citizens and people who should not be being detained. I misspoke. And so I apologize for the misinformation. So I hope everybody else out there.
Todd Ricketts
Who'S, you know, saying stuff that's not.
Clay Travis
True, please apologize, too. You did highlight that missing. No, no, no. I addressed everything I wanted to address in Minneapolis, but I am glad you said that because that was false what I said. And so I want to correct that for the record.
Todd Ricketts
So thank you.
Clay Travis
Okay. And we'll get. I'd like to grab the question that Dan Zach Shesky, who is an outkick reporter, asked for Doc Rivers, and then also the. The question that Alejandro Avila asked there of Steve Kerr, because I think the questions are important. But Steve Kerr actually apologized. He apologized for being inaccurate. Now, Doc Rivers is the coach of the. Of the Timber of the Bucks up in Minneapolis, up in Milwaukee. And he was asked about the fact that he said ICE agents are committing murder, and he actually doubled down on it. Listen to this. A few weeks ago, you said the shooting of Renee Good in Minnesota was, quote, a straight up murder. And you called the broader ICE situation a, quote, travesty. Now that some time has passed, do you still stand by those words? And when you said murder, can you.
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Clay Travis
Legal sense or as a moral condemnation of the situation?
Senator Eric Schmitt
I don't both.
Todd Ricketts
And I don't change that at all. I look at our league, look at.
Senator Eric Schmitt
The NBA, we're celebrating Pioneers Day today, right? And I look at our league and I think Olajuwon could have been taken off the streets, but we would right now. The way brown people feel, only the.
Clay Travis
Brown people would be taken off the.
Senator Eric Schmitt
Streets and it's just not right and it's not morally right.
Clay Travis
Okay, so Doc Rivers is a moron. But you have to push back on these narratives because what the reporters are doing who sit in those newsrooms is they're asking left wing coded questions. They're getting famous people like Doc Rivers, Steve Kerr, Jelly roll, whoever it is to say what they wish they could say. And then they are covering it as quote, unquote news. So they're claiming that this is not opinion based media. Now here's something else that's interesting about this and I think it's so important. Most of those answers don't get covered. Steve Kerr's apology. Almost no news site covered it, but they all covered him saying that ICE was only arresting 5 year olds and wasn't arresting violent criminals. Doc Rivers doubling down on murder. The New York Times covered it. Steve Kerr saying, hey, I apologize for getting that wrong. The New York Times didn't cover it. What they select as quote, unquote news is actually the foundation of opinion based journalism. Them, they're disguising everything that is actually opinion as news and they're cloaking it in far left wing media because that's what their subscribers want. You don't want to subscribe to the New York Times and find out that your political views aren't true. You want to subscribe to the Washington Post and find out that everything you believe about awful Nazi conservatives is actually true. These organizations in leaving advertising and moving to subscription based businesses have actually wildly polarized their audiences because subscribers overwhelmingly index far left wing. And what might have been somewhat, at least of an organization that attempted to try and bring actual news has now just become left wing propaganda. Now there's not really right wing equivalents to the New York Times or the Washington Post. And that's sometimes why it feels like metaphorically conservative ideas are so overwhelmingly outgunned. We'll talk about this when we come back. I'll take some of your calls. By the way, we're going to be joined by Todd Ricketts. I bet he has some thoughts on this at the bottom of the hour. He owns the Chicago Cubs and he's trying to companies that have more balance. Will it work? We will discuss. But I want to tell you all about Price Picks. I mentioned that I'm out in California. Well, I am headed up to San Francisco. I'm going to be doing a lot of meetings with advertisers. I'm going to be doing a lot of shows up there and I'm going to be meeting with a lot of people that are in town for the Super Bowl. Seahawks going up against the Patriots. If you love sports and you're going to be watching the super bowl this weekend, I am going to give you a pick. You can now play in all 50 states, California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, everywhere. In fact, I will give you a pick an hour. Number three, the pick that I will give you all week long that you can play along with us in the super bowl. And you can get $50 deposited in your account when you use Code clay. Go to prizepix.com Code Clay C L A Y. That is prizepix.com Code clay. You get $50 instantly in lineups when you play $5. That's Code Clay on prize picks to get 50 bucks in lineups when you play $five win or lose 50 bucks just for playing in all 50 states. Super bowl pick coming in our number three, pricepix.com Code Clay. You can download the app, put in Code clay. You get 50 bucks. That's pricepix.com code clay stories of freedom, stories of America, inspirational stories that unite us all. Each day. Spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay. Travis BUCK SEXTON show we are joined now by a guy who's probably ready for Major League Baseball season to be back. He is Todd Ricketts, a co owner of the Chicago Cubs. And he's got something that I think is super important that he's focused on how technology is biased, in particular Google and big tech. And let me tell you a story here that kind of goes to that when we had Donald Trump on my sports talk radio show for the first time. Mr. Rick, it's back in July of 2020. We had him on and did the interview sports talk radio show, wrote it up at Outkick and overnight our Facebook traffic and our Google traffic vanished. We lost 80% of our traffic. Basically. I've testified under oath about it and it was entirely because we had a lot of positive things that were written about Donald Trump and the algorithm that they, that they created disfavored us. And I don't think most people understand and you're focused on this just how rigged big tech can be in favor of left wing politics. What have you seen and what are you trying to do? And thanks for joining us.
Todd Ricketts
Well, yeah, thanks for having me today. And that's actually a fascinating story that you just told there. Really. I started off with respoke coming at this from not actually having hard data like you just mentioned, but really just a hunch. When I would search for things in Google, I was thinking the results I was getting were not the results I expected. And so I kind of went down this like this rabbit hole of saying like the left is running big tech. And I think there's kind of two aspects of it. There's the guys that work in the field, like the programmers at Google, that are just naturally left leaning and then there's a little bit of institutional left leaning from the executives. And what happens is you end up having these outcomes that are kind of left leaning. And so we started Free Spoke not to be a right leaning searcher, but we said, you know, what we want to do is we want to put something out there that is just trying to give good results and balancing all the information that you have out there. And so we sort of Free Spoke to try to be fair, to try to show everything and not suppress any sort of information, whether it be labeled misinformation or whatnot. And so we kind of, we came at that. And then since then we've discovered that Google most definitely has been left leaning for a long time. They said they were not, but then you hear like the executive director from the UN on climate change talking about how they work with Google to suppress any sort of, like any sort of thinking on climate change that goes against the narrative. And then you saw, I think you had Eric Schmidt talking about how, you know, the Biden administration worked with the big tech companies to suppress anything that was anti vaccine. And the list kind of just goes on and on and on. And so what we've done at Pre Spoke is try to create a search engine. And then the way the world is evolving, I'd call it more than more of a, an AI digital news assistant to help you sort through everything that's out there to help you form your own opinion. And that's really what we're going for at Free Spoke.
Clay Travis
I think that's super important because the search engine is now becoming diminished through AI because so many people, my kids included, just pull their phones out and go to a AI location, whether it's ChatGPT, whether it's Grok on Twitter. So how do you balance that as you move forward? Because Google's power may be diminish, but Google has their own AI device. I'm sure you're having to evolve in real time where back in the day somebody would sit down in front of a computer or even on their phone and type in a query to try to find information. Now it's moved from the traditional search engine to this AI device. And arguably, I would think the algorithms that are powering AI are even more impactful going forward than search has been.
Todd Ricketts
Yeah, that's. You're 100% right there. And really what we've seen is that people are shifting away from, away from Google to your ChatGPT. But again, the ChatGPT have, like, their biases built into them as well. So we built our own competitor that if you go to Free Spoke and you search for things, it has, you know, an agentic AI sort of interface where you can ask, ask a question, get it, get a AI answer and then kind of elaborate that and build just like you do in the Chat GPT sort of environment. But what we've tried to do is like, we've tried to train our AI to be really, I say just the facts, ma'.
Clay Travis
Am.
Todd Ricketts
We try, we're trying not to lean anywhere. We try to get both sides and kind of like show some middle ground is where things overlap. So we've kind of developed that same sort of technology. And so if you're using ChatGPT, then come over to Free Spoke and try us out and see if you find the difference.
Clay Travis
We're talking to Todd Ricketts, co owner of the Chicago Cubs, co founder of Free Spoke, the independent search engine, trying to take on Google's political bias and combat big tech censor. As you well know, it's not only bias, it's also burying what you can find. And one of the things that's so important is scale and all of these iterations, because the more scale you have, the more success you can build, the better iterations you create. How do you get big enough to make Free Spoke be able to build off of the queries that it's getting to build a more efficient sort of reply system?
Todd Ricketts
Gosh, that's a great question. And really it is, it is the big, the big obstacle that we were trying to get over. It's like, how do we get out there and get people using our products? Because once they get there and they start using it, they generally stay and they use it more and more and more. And we've got a few million users, but this is the year where we've decided to really go out there and kind of advertise a little bit more and try to get more users and stickier users. And so it's really, it is a tough, it's a tough market to break into, though. That's for sure.
Clay Travis
Well, and there's all these obstacles that are built up. I mean, there's been a ton of antitrust investigations into this, because once these organizations get big, they try to keep anybody else from being able to get in. And that makes it even more challenging. And again, in an AI age, I think it's going to matter even more. What are you seeing in terms of youth? Is there an understanding among young people that they are being sort of sometimes fed false information? How active are young people in your experience, based on what you're seeing, aware of how the world is shifting and not only young people. Who's more susceptible to being manipulated in your mind? Is it older people, younger people? The answer is everybody. But who are you seeing be the most impacted and maybe not even realize it?
Todd Ricketts
Yeah, I don't know if you can put an age range or a type of person, but what we're seeing, though is like. But I think that a big part of, like, big tech and the social media we have out there, it just reinforces your point of view. Because when you get on an Instagram or a TikTok or something and you like something you see, you just get more of it. And so what's happening is the algorithms are driving us to the content that we like, because their whole idea is to keep you there.
Clay Travis
Right.
Todd Ricketts
So they're not going to show you stuff that disagrees with you. And so people are just kind of like fed into this echo chamber and it really drives the divide. So it's like sometimes if I get onto one of these platforms and I'm watching and I'm seeing stuff that, you know, like, identify. That I identify with. And I'm like, yeah, damn right. And then I think, well, my neighbor's probably not saying that.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Todd Ricketts
And that's what's leading to the divide in this. And like, and I think a long time ago, before social media and before the technology was so prevalent in our lives, if your neighbor didn't agree with you, you didn't necessarily know it. Right. You get beers with your neighbors and your, your neighbor may have some crazy ideas about how the world works and may be extreme to one way or the other, but you didn't always have to talk about it. Like, you could still have a beer and talk about, you know, the favorite sports team or what's going on in the neighborhood, but now you can't help but know because either your neighbor is posting stuff out there and you're like, oh, my God, I can't believe Bill believes This. And on the flip side, when he's going there and just, you know, kind of surfing through social media, he's only seeing things that reinforce his point of view, not saying things that like kind of counter it. I think that's like a big issue we have in the country right now is that that divide is getting driven by that. And so at Free Spoke, what we're trying to do, especially on our news side is like kind of show all sides and let you see like what both sides are writing about on the same topics. And so then you can see the crossover of like, okay, well the truth probably lies somewhere in between.
Clay Travis
I think that's hugely important. I was making fun of myself because I'm the last person who still reads print. I'm out in LA right now. I've got the New York Times, the LA Times, Wall Street Journal in front of me. One reason that I love print is serendipity. It puts articles that I might not otherwise read in front of me because the algorithm only is going to give me things that it already knows I like. But there might be things that I want to be exposed to that I would never see. And that sounds like something you're trying to address with your product.
Todd Ricketts
100%. 100%. I'm going to say I'm with you. I actually, I still get a hard newspaper every day. Do I like that? I like the tactile feeling of flipping through the paper itself as well as what you said about like reading articles that you would never think to search on or, or go look for yourself.
Clay Travis
We're talking to Todd Ricketts. Okay, you mentioned sports. You are one of the co owners of the Chicago Cubs. I'm a big baseball fan, Braves fan, unfortunately for you competitor. But you've got one of the great all time brands in sports, the Cubs. You know, Wrigley Field, wgn, back in the day, nationwide audience. Are you nervous? I'm in LA right now. The Dodgers are spending money like crazy. The Cubs are a big brand team. But are you nervous about where baseball is going when you see the contracts that some teams can sign and others cannot or you think it's going to get itself solved? How much time do you spend thinking about that?
Todd Ricketts
You know, I think that eventually it's going to get solved. I think that like at some point we're going to come up with a system that kind of like is a little bit more like the other leagues out there that has a little bit more of a hard cap. But also I think if you've seen in baseball that, you know, spending doesn't necessarily equate to championships. I mean, it did this year for the Dodgers, but historically speaking, you know, the Yankees, you know, for the last 125 years, call it, or whatever, the Yankees have outspent everybody, but they haven't won the World Series every single year. So I think there's a lot of examples in baseball where money doesn't equate to World Series championships. It certainly helps. So we'll see, we'll see where this leads. I think it's going to lead us to a place where we get a little bit more of a hard cap that will put a little bit of balance of talent or at least a balance of money out there. But also I looked down, I look at our team and I'm like, we have a rock solid team. I think we have a really great, a really great team coming up this year. And if we're going to make the playoffs, you know, knock on wood and see where that goes from there.
Clay Travis
For people out there who are listening and they're saying, boy, I do need to have a better, more aggressive understanding of how things are playing on the Internet. Tell us one more time about your search engine, how they can can start to use it in their lives.
Todd Ricketts
You can go to free spoke.com or you can go to the app store and download the Free Spoke app. And really what I'll give you each morning is like a whole list of headlines and both sides like what multiple newspapers are writing on the same topic. And I think it'll just really help you to inform your opinion. And I think it'd be good for our country if everybody spends a little time thinking about how the other side thinks and kind of bridge that divide.
Clay Travis
Todd Ricketts, co owner of the Chicago Cubs co founder of Free Spoke we appreciate the time. Pitchers and catchers report soon. It's a good time of year.
Senator Eric Schmitt
Yep.
Todd Ricketts
On the 11th. On the 11th, baseball is almost here. I can't wait.
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Our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you. Buck is out. He is with the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. He is with the head of NASA Jared Isaacson. Isaac Mun Isaacson something like that. And he has spent the day at Kennedy Space center as we prepare for a major launch into space. Another tour. I think it's Artemis 2 that is planning to head to the moon and engage in many different aspects of that space mission. And I believe he said that we have been invited to potentially watch a rocket ship take off, which would be pretty cool. So hopefully we can, we can find that and be able to to share some more experience with you. Buck will have some good stories I would imagine. Tomorrow when he is back, we're going to be joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn at the bottom of the hour. We've already talked with Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri and Chicago Cubs co owner Todd Ricketts. Really enjoyable conversations. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. 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In addition to the 555 stations in all 50 states, you will be able to listen to the program starting a week from Today on Sirius XM channel 123. The show has never been on satellite radio before. We are continuing to expand and grow across all of the platforms. Because people consume shows so many different ways now than compared to the 80s and the 90s. We want to be everywhere. So starting in June we will have three hours of video every single day that you'll be able to see that hopefully will look pretty good that will be on YouTube and other locations will be on satellite radio starting Monday. In addition to all of the ways that you are already experiencing this program. So something to look forward to there. I want to give you a positive story. I've been teasing this a little bit. Two super positive stories that I think are connected. Data from Washington D.C. during the course of the month of January. Homicides compared to last year down 80% robberies down 58% burglaries down 28% motor vehicle theft down 57% all crime down 26%. Washington D.C. is on pace to be the safest it has ever been in the history of any of our lives. Last year was the safest year in the history of any of our lives. We had 125 year low. When it comes to the murder rate, all of this is stacking up in a very significant way and people are voting with their feet as well to support good government. Lots of times people say, oh, it's also negative. I near never hear anything positive. Just in the last two weeks, two of the greatest stories that I've ever seen. We hit a new record for average lifespan in this country last year and we also hit a 125 year low for murders. Both of those are connected. Do you think maybe ICE deporting violent criminals has been impactful there? Do you think maybe having a secure border has been impactful there and all associated with that, that good government is actually winning? This is the data from the census in the last year. Where are people moving? Overwhelmingly two states that Donald Trump won. Where are people leaving? Overwhelmingly states that Kamala Harris won. Let me give you some of this. Top 10 places people moved in the United States. North Carolina number one. Texas, number two. South Carolina, number three. My home state of Tennessee, number four. This is in the last year according to the census. Arizona, number five. Georgia, six, Alabama, seven. Florida, eight, Idaho, nine and Nebraska, sorry, Nevada, 10. What do all 10 of those states have in common? Donald Trump won all of them. So people are moving, they are choosing to move to red states where people leaving. Connecticut, Hawaii, Colorado, Maryland, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Illinois, New York, California. Only one of those states was won by Donald Trump. People are leaving blue states and they are moving to red states. Now I know some of you who live in those states. You're already blowing me up. I don't even have to check my mentions. I don't even have to check my emails. Clay, they're locusts. They destroy the blue state. You're in California right now. It's a perfect example. They vote for awful things and then they bail and they go and they bring their politics with them. Them. I understand that argument. Data doesn't support it. The red states are actually getting redder. The people that are the most fed up and are relocating tend to be redder even than the states that they are going to. Florida is a prime example of this. You remember when Florida was a toss up state. Remember we had to sit around for hours, weeks, months Even back in 2000 to find out who won the state of Florida. Now we know about three hours after the votes are cast. Overwhelmingly red state voters have flowed into Florida. My state of Tennessee has gotten deep red because people are coming to Tennessee and they are voting even redder than the people that are already there. What we are seeing is there are a lot of people making reasonable, rational choices based on the governance of where they are and saying, I'm done with this. I'm moving Census data. Top 10 movers, all Trump states. Top 10 losers, nine of them, Kamala states. What we are seeing is Republicans make choices and govern in a way that makes everybody's lives better. And all of these blue states are starting to fall apart even more. Over the weekend. We got a lot of people with the show that work out of New York City. They've had a snowstorm in New York City and right now, mom Donnie can't get the streets clean and he can't get the garbage picked up. We're going to talk with Marsha Blackburn, senator from Tennessee here shortly. Unfortunately, Nashville has got a moron Democrat mayor. They also have got a electric service that had over a hundred DEI meetings and trainings last year. If you're sitting around and you're thinking to yourself, why does the electric service need to have DEI instruction? I think you're asking good questions. Because the electric service where I am has to serve everybody. I don't know why you would need to be trained in diversity, equity and inclusion over a hundred different times. What I care about is turn the power on and get it back flowing. I grew up in a part of Nashville called Goodlettsville. Maybe some of you are listening in goodlettsville right now. Zip code 37072. It's on the north side of Davidson County. I lived my entire life in Goodlettsville. Right now, the Nashville electric service has put out a projection of how long it's going to take to turn the power back on after the ice storm in Nashville. Goodlettsville, Tennessee is the last place, the last zip code to get power. Three weeks. Let me repeat three weeks. We're not talking about a epic hurricane of unimaginable detail and destruction. We're talking about a winter storm that was on the forecast for weeks that everybody knew was coming. And this left mayor and this, this nes DEI obsessed electric service can't turn the power back on for people. I made the decision in my life after Covid. I was so angry. I was a born and raised Nashville kid. I went to public school K through 12. I lived in Nashville for much of my life. A decade ago, we moved out to Franklin, Tennessee, which is Utopia, one of the greatest cities on the planet. We just moved again. My wife was looking, she said, where do we want to move? We want to be closer to the kids school. We want to be able to live in a better, closer place to where we had to go every single day. I said I will not leave Williamson county because I am so angry still over how Nashville handled Covid that I won't give them my property tax dollars. I made a conscious decision that I want to live in a better run community based on political decisions. And I think a lot of you are making those choices too. Now I also understand, I talked about it earlier. I'm in LA 2020. More people in California voted Trump than voted for Trump in 2020 in Texas. One of my favorite stats. I understand a lot of you are still behind enemy lines and you're having to deal with the incompetence and you can't move because you got kids in school or you got jobs that aren't easily able to translate. But increasingly more and more people are saying, I can't put up with this anymore. So if you're out there and you feel frustrated by the stupidity that you see at the Grammy Awards, if you're out there and like Todd Ricketts who just talked with us, you sometimes think, how in the world can people believe the things that they do? There are tens of millions of people thinking like you and every single day more and more people are moving to red states and strengthening those red states and making them better. And the blue states are going to get worse. And this is a cycle that is going to repeat itself. And I think it is going to become one of the biggest stories that exists out there in all of the country's history. Because my big thesis is post Covid, a lot of people realize they can live anywhere in the country they want and people are fed up with government that doesn't work, with government that fails them and they are going to take their dollars like I did to places that make good decisions and they're going to pay their taxes in places that are going to make good choices and more people are going to move there and they're going to make better choices and the flip side is going to be true. When you're making poor choices, things are going to continue to get worse. I think that's what the data is reflecting. And by the way, Donald Trump is making it better even for blue cities. That story on DC is incredible. Murder rate may hit an all time low this year in Washington D.C. do you remember when they said, hey, this is not going to be effective. Oh, what is Trump going to do? It is going to be a disaster. It's going to be a disaster. That's what they said. Oh, there's no way to make it safer. Guess what? Everything got better. Trump was right yet again. Take some of your calls. Marsha Black we're going to join us at the bottom of the hour. We will discuss the latest on all the different issues dealing with power in both Mississippi and Tennessee as it continues to be awful in the wake of a ice storm and a failure, especially in the state of Tennessee, by left wing government to be able to actually turn the power on for people out there who are increasingly fed up with the poor leadership that they are getting. 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Episode: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Feb 2, 2026
Date: February 2, 2026
Host: Clay Travis (Buck Sexton out, returns tomorrow)
Guests: Senator Eric Schmitt (R-MO), Todd Ricketts (Chicago Cubs co-owner, FreeSpoke co-founder)
This episode dives into some of the most pressing political and cultural topics of the day, delivered with Clay Travis' signature blend of legal insight, skepticism toward left-wing orthodoxy, and irreverent humor. The show tackles the status of the government shutdown and immigration debates, the broken landscape of college sports, the inner workings of biased big tech platforms, and the blue-to-red state migration trend in America. Clay is joined by Missouri Senator Eric Schmitt to discuss border policy and college athletics, and by Chicago Cubs co-owner Todd Ricketts to explore the challenges of tech and news bias, especially in search engines and AI.
Guest: Senator Eric Schmitt (02:42 – 07:39)
Shutdown Status & Continuing Resolution:
Sanctuary Cities:
Census and Congressional Apportionment:
Guest: Senator Eric Schmitt (07:39 – 13:52)
Chaos in College Athletics:
Role for Congress:
Legislation:
Super Bowl Picks:
Clay Travis Monologue (20:42 – 38:36)
How Journalism Drifted Left:
Celebrity/Reporter Feedback Loop:
Pushback and Corrections:
Guest: Todd Ricketts, FreeSpoke/Chicago Cubs (38:36 – 49:07)
Big Tech Bias:
FreeSpoke’s Mission:
AI and the Future of Search:
Algorithmic Echo Chambers:
Challenges:
Clay Travis Monologue (54:12 – 69:42)
Crime Down, Lifespan Up:
Migration Trends:
Red State Resilience:
Failures of Blue State Governance:
Optimism for the Future:
Schmitt on Sanctuary Cities:
“Illegal immigration is effectively the Democrats’ religion now...they don’t really believe borders should matter.” (05:43)
Clay on Media Economics:
“When [media companies] shifted to a subscription model, then people only wanted to hear good things about their favorite team. So all of these newspapers, they no longer break news—they’re just propaganda.” (22:43)
Schmitt on College Sports Regulation:
“The NCAA’s had a lot of problems, but they can’t establish any rules...now you have really kind of a Wild West.” (08:34)
Ricketts on Search Engine Bias:
“Google most definitely has been left-leaning for a long time. They said they were not, but then you hear... they work with Google to suppress any sort of thinking on climate change that goes against the narrative." (39:57)
Clay on Red State Migration:
“The red states are actually getting redder. The people that are the most fed up and are relocating tend to be redder even than the states that they are going to.” (55:10)
The episode features Clay Travis’ signature blend: direct, skeptical, at times archly funny, and unafraid to challenge received narratives from mainstream media or blue state political leaders. With Buck Sexton out, Clay’s voice dominates, mixing legal analysis, populist empathy, and personal anecdotes.
If you want to understand hot-button political conflicts, how the internet and media shape perception, and why Americans are voting with their feet, this episode is a must-listen.