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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Do it now. All right. The Olympics. Let's talk about this. This is a great moment here. US Hockey player Jack Hughes after scoring the game winning goal in overtime. Cut eight. Play it. This is all about our country right now. I love the usa.
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Producer Greg and Producer Mark
I love my teammates.
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Buck Sexton
It's unbelievable. The USA hockey brotherhood is so strong and we have so much support from next players. And I'm so proud to be American today. This is what we want to see from our Olympians in general. I know that there was a departure from this, of some of the. What was it like, downhill skiers or something? This kind of patriotism, love of country. It's a great moment for this team. It's a great moment for. For all Americans who were watching and celebrating with them. And it's what, the first time that we've won this since 1980. Is that right? You know, we have two super hockey fans on the Clay and Buck staff. Two super hockey fans, producer Greg and producer Mark. I want to let them weigh in on this because they watched every second of this game. They watched all the ice hockey in the Olympics. They love their NHL. They love their Olympic hockey. And so here from two guys who. Because I'm very happy for America and for the patriotism of it, I didn't even know that hockey was going on. So I'm always going to be honest with you. I wasn't even aware until the game, the final was happening that there was anything even to speak of. So I'm bringing you some expertise courtesy of the Clay and Buck team. This is producer Greg play listener Talkback A. The Olympic win yesterday by Team USA men's hockey was great. It was such sweet revenge over last year's Four nations tournament where Canada beat the USA 3, 2 in overtime. The Olympics are a much bigger stage than the Four nations tournament anyway. We're also really proud of USA women. Way to go. Gold medal there as well. Usa. Usa. USA. That's to all you poutine eaters up north. I did see some pretty fun memes of like an American bald eagle with its talons just crushing a Canada goose, which is, I think, very apropos for what we just witnessed. Producer Mark, also a super hockey fan on our team. He waited. These guys are jumping for joy all. All throughout the the night after this big win. Play Lister, talk back. B.
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Producer Greg and Producer Mark
Hey, Buck, producer Mark here. It must be an important hockey story if you're actually talking about it on the air. Just a monumental victory for Team USA yesterday to win the gold medal. One of the best hockey games I've ever seen. As a person who's watched hockey his entire life, just to see the best of the best in the NHL face off against each other for their countries. It was incredible and a great chance for everyone to see how great of a sport hockey is on the national scale. And I hope it translates to more people Watching hockey down the line. So glad that Team USA was finally able to win gold for the first time since 1980.
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Buck Sexton
It was awesome. I did love the celebrations. It's really fun as an American to see your country represented so well. And it was actually at producer Mark's recommendation that I watch the miracle movie, which I had to admit, even as a non hockey watcher, that's a. That's a really great movie. Really great movie and a great story. So there's been some phenomenal sports stories this year. Clay is out today. Our sports guy is out today. It's a shame, but we've had some phenomenal sports moments, whether it was the Hoosiers winning the football national championship, ncaa, or now the gold medal by the US Men's hockey team. So great stuff there. Congratulations to. Oh, and I'm sorry, the ladies won the gold medal as well, which is also very exciting. I do not know that much about women's hockey, but I do know that the gold medal is very impressive and they should be very pleased with themselves. So I like starting off with a good story when we can, because when we start talking about the cartels and stuff here, it's going to get. It's going to get a little bleak. That's some very tough stuff going on down there in Mexico. Oh, something else from over the weekend. Yeah. Now we're taking the hard turn. We celebrated. I wanted to start you off on this Monday with amazing usa, USA Hockey win. Incredible. Some other stuff happened over the weekend, though. An intruder was shot and killed at Mar a Lago. Here, Secret Service, this is Cut four. Secret Service Special Agent in Charge Rafael Barros talking about what happened here.
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Producer Greg and Producer Mark
Play for the individual was armed with a shotgun in a possession of a gasoline canister. Agents and the deputy discharged firearms to stop the threat. At this time, no law enforcement personnel were injured during the incident. We want to be clear the President of the United States was not in the state of Florida and this remains an active investigation by the FBI.
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Buck Sexton
So shot and killed, as I understand it. I actually know some folks who are at Mar a Lago when this happened. You can imagine it's quite a. I'm sure if you were anywhere on the grounds, you would have heard the gunfire. So yet again, I mean, this is a president who has had. Who's been shot, who has had another very close call assassination attempt and continues to be under this. This threat from these maniacs in a way that no president before him that I can think of has certainly not in my lifetime. I know Reagan was shot. You'd have to go back to Reagan. For somebody who's been under this level of, of threat from maniacs would be assassins, political hitmen, all of the above, and just say a prayer, spare a prayer for Trump and his family and the Secret Service and everybody around them. And they dealt with this quickly. The guy had a shotgun. I think he scaled a fence. He's on the grounds of Mar a Lago, and they engaged the threat, and the guy was killed. There's reporting out there that he was obsessed with the Epstein files released. That's all that I've seen so far on him. I'm not even clear really what that means other than this is a guy who was spending way too much time on that. But this is a president who is someone that is defining a political era, really defining an era of American history and doing things that, yes, you and I can sit here and talk about how powerful they are and how much they benefit the country, but when someone is shaking things up and changing the way, the way the presidency governs, as this president is, there's going to be efforts, there's going to be those who take it upon themselves to try to stop it by any means. And it's still, if we had had a Democrat president, for example, who had been through this, we would hear about it all the time. There was nothing like any of this that I can remember under Biden. Certainly he wasn't shot. Certainly they didn't find a gunman once after he had been shot, waiting for him on his golf course somewhere. There's, there's clearly an elevated threat level against Donald Trump now. I think the Secret Service is more prepared for this now than they had been previously. I would certainly hope so, because the failures of, of security in that field in Butler, Pennsylvania, were all too clear and obvious to everyone who observed what was going on there. But I find that it's. It's just interesting how little there is in the narrative in the media about the bravery that Trump has when he goes about all the things that he does and all the events and all the time, he doesn't slow down one bit. And this president is under, clearly, I don't think there's any doubt, more active threat than certainly any president in the 21st century. And I think you would have to go back to Reagan for anybody who is even close to as consequential a president. And then also with that, with being so consequential, I think comes the elevated risk from a whole range of things, people that are trying to stop people that are part of the, the evil or the, the enemy that want to just stop this president from continuing to rack up wins. People that are just so insane that they view themselves as. They want to do something essentially go down in the history books ignominiously, but they want to go down the history books for stopping this president in some way. So I just think that there's not nearly enough time, or not nearly enough, in fairness, that is said about how President Trump really has done a very brave thing by running again, by continuing to go on after getting shot. It didn't even faze him. It didn't even faze him that this guy took a 5, 5, 6 round through the year. He just kept going. He really is on a mission. Many of you would say he's on a mission from God. I think Trump would say he's on a mission from God. But, you know, he has chosen to do this at some level, and we need to understand that, but also count our blessings that he's still able to go and do what he does and continue on with, with what his task has been up to this point. You think about this, there's just, there are so many forces arrayed against this guy, which on the one hand is, I think, a massive indicator of how consequential, as I said, he is, of how much of a disruptor he is, how much that he's willing to take the fight to the enemy in a whole range of ways, internationally, domestically, spiritually, you name it. But when you hear that there's some maniac roaming Mar a Lago with a gun, now, the President wasn't there, the President wasn't under threat in this case. But clearly, like I said, say a prayer for this president because he's got. He's got a few years left here and still has a lot to do. And we have to keep this president safe. So good work from the Secret Service. 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Buck Sexton
all right, welcome into the second hour of Clay and Buck and let's talk about this, shall we? Had President Trump host assisting the families of crime victims angel families at the White House. Yes, I'm sorry, this morning. Wait, is it yesterday or today? I think it was this morning. He participated in. Yeah, it was this morning. That's right. In an angel families remembrance ceremony in the East Room. This event honored angel families, relatives of individuals killed or harmed in crimes allegedly committed by. Oh, gosh, when you read the official description of this, as I was just doing, they go to undocumented immigrants, often referred to as legal aliens. No, referred to as legal aliens because that is the proper legal term. This is. I was actually not going to think of this as an opportunity to sell manufacturing delusion copies. But on the propaganda section, there's a whole all this stuff about immigration and the change in our language that has been in the service of pushing for illegal immigration has been profound. And you'll notice it went from illegal alien to illegal immigrant to undocumented immigrant to undocumented to now, I don't know, like non citizen, soon to be American or something. So they do this on purpose. Obviously. They change the words that are used so that you have essentially seeded ground in the debate before you've even had it. If you're undocumented, well, how do you fix that? Well, get them the documents. Right. That's the way you, if you're undocumented, how do you fix it? Get them documents. Oh, that shouldn't be too hard. You see the way that this works works and that's always been the plan. The American people have been put through one of the most sustained campaigns of lies around immigration on any major policy issue in this country. It's up there with whatever else you think. The Democrat left has been spreading untruth mistruths about Democrat media and, and really, unfortunately, a lot of Republicans too, we were led to believe so many things, even though, for example, I think it was John McCain was a sponsor of the Secure Fences Act. I mean, you go back to the early 2000s, there were all these, there were all these moments where Republicans would say that they were going to build the, build the dang fence and things like that. But the Bush administration was terrible on this stuff. The Obama administration was, was very bad. The Biden administration, though, was in a class by itself. The Biden administration just decided, you know what, we've gotten to a critical mass here of illegals coming into the country where we might as well just, just sort of take the gloves off and just let it rip. Just let them all in. Just let them all. And everybody wants to come in. And remember there were videos of illegals coming to our border. And the occasional journalists would say, hey, what are you doing here? And they would say like, I'm here because Biden is going to let me stay. That really happened. I forget what the exact words were used, but that really happened. Oh, speaking of Biden, we actually, the team did pull this because I brought it up before. What did Biden say about Obama? Here we go. This is 28. There's a flashback to 2007. Play 28 for me. You got the first sort of mainstream African American who is articulate and bright
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Gavin Newsom
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Buck Sexton
And cut out there. Did he say clean? Because that's also in the nice looking guy there. There you go. Yeah, that's a strange thing to say. Didn't Biden ended up being his vp? This is what I'm saying, Democrats, this is part of the advantage, part of the privilege package of being a Democrat in politics or just somebody who the Democrat party finds useful. That's really what it is. It's not about loyalty, it's not about what you stand for. It's are you useful to the power and the interest of the Democratic Party? If the answer is yes, racism, it doesn't matter. That doesn't affect you really, because there's always a chance for you to beg forgiveness later or to do more for the oppressed groups that you've offended or something like that. No, really, racism, predominantly in political discourse in this country in the last, well, few decades at least, is just something that you particularly try to weaponize in bad faith against Republicans to scare them and shut them down and stop them from doing things that would be good policy, including, and disproportionately for the black community in this country, things like safer streets, more support for cops, more enforcement of the law. You've got the left saying that that stuff is racist. Meanwhile, it's not racist. And actually it really does in major cities, for example, help black people more than anybody else. So there's all that happening in the background here of this discussion on immigration. And Trump decided, you know, one thing I've been saying that there's all these lies around this. One of the big lies or one of the things that they will do, I should say part of the propaganda around immigration has been, you know, we have to, this is the founder of the next founder of Google or they do the jobs Americans won't do or they're more law abiding than Americans. Or a big part of immigration discourse has been they are better than us illegals. I'm not talking about legal migrants. I'm talking about illegal migrants, people who just come here and break the law. They're better than the Americans who are actually here. Which is quite a thing to say for an American and especially an American politician. But that was very common. Doing the jobs Americans won't do. Yeah, not for, not if, if the choice is being here or being in Nicaragua. A lot of people would rather be here even if they're being paid below market wages. It's a better country. That's not, not some huge mystery. It doesn't, doesn't go to the inherent work ethic of any group of people one way or the other. But the other part of this is I, I used to say this when I would debate people years ago. This has been a big issue for me for a long time, certainly for the last, really well, really since Trump came into office, since 2016 and since Ann Coulter's excellent Adios America was published. Very, very good book. And you know, you see the way that the immigration story was laid out for so many people in this country and it was just a big lie. It wasn't true. And one of the things that I would ask people when I would debate them on this, especially at CNN places like that is is there any downside to illegal immigration. Because if you ask somebody from like the Cato Institute, which is an open borders shell lunatic factory, if you ask people from places like this, libertarians, you know, far left, bleeding heart types, any, any and all of the above, they never have an answer for you. And so then I always say to them, if there's no downside to illegal immigration, why don't we just go open borders? Oh, no, we can't do that. Why? You won't identify a downside. You won't tell me what the trade off is. Ah, well, Trump will tell you what the trade off is. One of the trade offs is that there are thousands and thousands of people in this country who aren't supposed to be here, who kill people, who rape people, who steal, who commit armed robberies, all of the above, all these kinds of things. And this is Trump here at the, at the ceremony honoring these families. This is cut one from this morning for the angel families. Play it.
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Donald Trump
We're willing to tell the story and that, I don't know why the news doesn't want to hear it. The Democrats don't want to hear it. The radical left, they don't want to hear it. What's not to hear? We want to stop murderers and criminals from coming into our country. I watch the mayor of Minneapolis. I watch these people think we want to protect murderers. I don't get something sick. They're sick. Can't have a country like that. So we appreciate the bravery of everybody in this room.
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Buck Sexton
Actually, Again, this is something that the media overall will not tell you about. This is the, the other side of, you know, they love to run these stories, particularly if it's that they'll run some story about a dreamer. They used to, you notice the dreamer thing has fallen away a little bit. But they'd say some dreamers, like this dreamer is a valedictorian. Isn't this amazing? You know, dreamer being somebody who allegedly was brought here when they were still a minor by their parents. And as I have to note, and this sounds kind of harsh to some people, but it's true. You know, if, if my, if, if dad steals a million dollars from a bank and gives it to me to fund my, you know, my laboratory where I'm going to do great things for researching different medicines. It's still stolen money. You're not supposed to benefit from criminal activity. And entering the country illegally is, in fact illegal. But you would always hear these stories about the valedictorian. You would never hear the story about the illegal who had been arrested 10 times and drunk driving five times and then finally, you know, killed a family of three on the highway. Media won't tell that story. In fact, if anything, they'll, they'll do the, it's such and such. You know, it's a Michigan man or a Florida man or a, you know, whatever kills three people in a car accident. Well, actually, this guy is not an American at all. He's, you know, from some third world country and has been in this country nothing but a drain on our resources and breaking our laws and a giant net negative for us. Trump spoke about how much, also the, how much pain there has been as a result of the, as a result of some of these illegals, the things they've done. This is cut to where he just says to these angel families, look, your loss is infinite. And I'm very sorry, very sorry for what's happened. Play two.
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Donald Trump
Everyone in this room not only suffered an infinite loss, they were the victims of politicians who put the comfort of foreign criminals before the safety of American citizens and American patriots. Their stories were censored and suppressed like maybe almost never before so that the politicians could open our borders and allow our nation to be invaded. If we didn't win the election, our nation would right now be destroyed.
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Buck Sexton
Let's just take that last part for a second. If Biden, well, in this case, it would have been Kamala, right? If Kamala had won the election, we would have gone back to the posture, Remember, they would have told us it's impossible to secure the border, which was always a lie, a lie that Trump has now exposed once and for all. But they would have told us it's impossible to secure the border. And we would have had millions and millions of more people coming into the country and staying here and availing themselves of all kinds of benefits and really just taking from the American people. I mean, this is the, the part of it that was a wake up call for so many, I think was when, and give Texas Governor Greg Abbott credit, when he just started saying, fine, we're just going to bust these illegals to where they want to go. We'll send them to New York, we'll send them to Chicago. And then you see what happens in these cities. They're not coming here because as they're about to start the next great tech company, they're coming here because they think that there's a free lunch. In many cases, this is what these illegals are doing. If they were coming here because they thought that they could contribute right away, you'd think the legal immigration process might be more to their liking. And beyond that, there's also the issue of how do you have a country that has anything that feels cohesive about it? If you're going to be bringing millions of different people in year after year after year from all over the world, disparate cultures, different languages, different religions, different political beliefs and everything else, you could say, well, that's always been the story of America. That's actually not true. Another lie that they tell, the story of America is temporary waves of migration, legal migration, followed by real clampdowns, like, all right, now we all get to live. Now we've let some more people into the house. Now we all live in the house together for a while. We get to know each other. It's not supposed to be just open door policy forever. That's actually not how immigration has worked in America. And it's also quite a different thing to show up here as a, a settler or a pioneer than it is to show up, get chauffeured around a taxpayer expense, be given a, you know, EBT card, free health care, and effectively told that you are now going to be taken care of by the people who are already here just by virtue of our sense of guilt or obligation or something. It's a very different thing. They're not, they're not hacking it out of the wilderness with their own two hands here in this country. Okay, this is a different thing. So if we look at the immigration, immigration waves that have come in the 21st century illegally, the, the American economy is, or rather the American system is already straining under the weight of the promises we've made to Americans. Do you really think that you're going to be paying more? Or rather they're, this is when they go. The GDP is growing. GDP is not, that's not, that's not everything. Of course, GDP grows. If you have a million more people, what is the quality of life of those people? How, how are they contributing to the society around them and how are they assimilating into that society? These are all the questions. But this is why Trump, he just needs to tell these stories. People understand there are in fact huge costs to illegal immigration, including the loss of life and something that should be taken into account whenever we discuss this. Protecting yourself and your family is the number one job for every parent. The moment I became a father, that sense of protection, it just became front and center in my, in our home, we have tools to protect ourselves from, from an intruder. Put aside the contents of our gun safes. We keep Locked. We have Sabers non lethal products as well, including their home defense launchers. It's the kind of protection you need in your home as well. Now's a good time to secure your home with a Sabre home defense launcher. They make several. Some that look like pistols, other look like rifles. The Sabre home defense launcher delivers powerful impact pepper projectiles. That's two more than most competitors, and that matters in the moment you need it most. When fear hits and you have to defend yourself, having extra stopping power can change everything. Protection doesn't stop at your front door when you're on the move. Sabre pepper sprays, pepper gels and stun guns gives you compact, reliable protection wherever life takes you. When safety matters, America chooses Sabre, the number one brand trusted by police and millions worldwide. Sabre is how it's spelled. Don't wait for a close call. Get protection now@sabreradio.com that's s A-B-R-E-Radio.com or call 844-824 safe.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome, everybody. Third hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off right now. Clay. Clay is out today doing Clay things on a Clay adventure. He'll be back with us tomorrow. Just me today, and I am recovering from a stomach bug over the weekend, so drinking my Pedialyte does not taste great, but it does get the job done. And I got a lot of news to talk to you all about. Here we have. Oh, boy. A few things. First of all, let's start with the happy. We mentioned this. Top of the show, U.S. men's hockey team gold medal in the Olympics. Yay. Very exciting. A lot of patriotism, a lot of USA and the player who had his tooth broken by the stick and stayed in the game. And I think he did. He scored the winning goal too, didn't he? It's a crazy story with half of his tooth missing front tooth as well. Like, there's different. Some, some teeth you can, you can get chipped or knocked out and you're like, that's not great. But the front teeth, it's that, that's the. But he stayed in there. Those hockey guys are tough, I gotta say. You don't want to fight hockey guys that, that I know. Even if they're retired or whatever, you don't want to mess with the hockey guys. And then you got what else happening over the Weekend, the we talked about the military operation that took out El Mencho, the Jalisco cartel. Jalisco, new generation cartel guy. And yep, that happened. Let me see. Jack Hughes, they're saying, yeah, Jack Hughes, that's the guy's a tough dude. So anyway, there's a cartel guy got taken out of the weekend, $15 million bounty on his head. I guess the Mexican military doesn't get to collect that, but they really wanted him. They took him out. A gunman at Mar a Lago, about an hour from where I am here up north. Gunman from Mar a Lago shot and killed, entered the grounds, had a shotgun. Assuming Secret Service said halt. He didn't halt. And that was all. That was all went down there. And so we've got that another threat against President Trump, something that I thought was, was worth revisiting though, from last week. So we got those big news stories about the gold medal shooting at Mar A Lago, Mexican cartel leader taken out. But then last week we had that Supreme Court decision and Trump was, to put it mildly, unhappy with the 6:3 decision that went against him in the Supreme Court. Learning Resources Incorporated v. Trump International Emergency Powers act, iepa, as we call it, does not authorize him to impose these tariffs, they said. Well, Trump, in a press conference shortly afterward, said this was deeply disappointing, said he was ashamed of certain members of the court, ashamed for not having the courage to do what's right for our country. He thanked the justices in. He thanked the justices or sorry, he personally attacked some of the justices, said that they were just loyal and unpatriotic fools and lap dogs. Whoa. And said the ruling was terrible and ridiculous. But he announced that he would work around the ruling using other legal authorities. He signed off on a new temporary 10% global tariff under section 122 of the Trade act of 1974. Just went to a different statute, a different authority for this. He posted about this on Truth Social, by the way, you can read some of this off of Truth Social if you want. Then the next day, he raised the tariff to the global tariff to 15%, called the Supreme Court's opinion ridiculous, poorly written and extraordinarily anti American. He praised dissenting Justices Kavanaugh, Thomas and Alito for wanting to make America great, great again. So Trump was annoyed by it, but he's not stopping and he's not stopping the tariffs either. And Scott Besant, his very capable Secretary of the treasury, who I think has become one of the most impressive members of the Trump cabinet. I think that Bessen has really shown. First of all, just look at the way the economy and people can say, oh, it's not like the Treasury Secretary is responsible for it all, okay, but if the economy was trash, don't you think we'd all be hearing about how terrible Scott Besant was? If inflation was going through the roof, don't you think we'd be hearing about how terrible Trump and Besant were on this? So maybe you get more credit when the things are good and you get more blame when things are bad, but that's the way it goes. Besant has presided over a very strong economy, very rapidly growing economy, but on the Supreme Court ruling, he had some, some very straightforward analysis of all this. This is cut 22, and here's what he had to say. Play 22.
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Scott Bessen
It's very interesting that the Supreme Court said that the president can't raise $1 of revenue with tariffs, but he can't put on a full embargo. So they reaffirmed his ability to block all trade. He just cannot accept $1 for the trade. And I will tell you, like the tariff revenues, they have come into the Treasury. But more importantly, the ultimate goal of tariff is rebalancing trade and bringing our trade deficits into balance. We've seen our good sector, the deficit with our trading partners drop by 17%. We've seen our bilateral deficit with China drop substantially. And we are seeing trillions of investments and factories coming back to the US because of the tariffs.
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Buck Sexton
So the policy overall seems to have worked very well if you look at it from the perspective of what will benefit the American economy, and looking at what they wanted to have happen once they put these in place in calendar year 2025, tariffs were $264 billion. That's some real money, friends. Some say it's actually more like $287 billion in customs duty, taxes and fees altogether. So this is a lot of money that came in and yet the economy was still strong. Unemployment, inflation, growth, all these things, wages, things are going well. Now, the one place where people have been citing challenges is on affordability and high prices. High prices, as we know, were kicked into place by the worst economic decision making imaginable during COVID some of which occurred on Trump's watch, but would have very quickly been turned around. But then Biden came in and did a whole lot of crazy stuff, spending trillions of dollars completely unnecessarily, after we had already seen that Covid was not something we should have shut down the economy for, shut down schools for everything. Else. But, yeah, if you're going to just tell people not to work and print trillions of dollars, you're going to inflate your currency and you're going to have problems. So none of that was, was a surprise. I think all of that exactly lined up the way that we would have assumed. But Trump inherited those high prices. As president, he's trying to deal with it. He doesn't sit around whining about it, but he's trying to deal with it. And that is going to take some time. But in the meantime, there are a lot of things that I think are going exactly the way that he would like them to with regard to the economy. And the Supreme Court ruling, to me, seemed very much like the justices in the majority. Well, there are a few justices who just hate Trump, and anything that he does, they're going to oppose. Pretty much, we know who they are. And then there are a few other justices, notably Roberts, but also Kagan, and in this case, I'm sorry, Gorsuch and Coney Barrett, who are institutionalists for the court at some level, they believe in keeping the public's, whatever that means to them, view of the court favorable. And I think that they stepped in here and I think they make political decisions, they go, well, we're going to knock him down on this one because some of the other ones that are coming down the pipeline, Clay and I talked about this last week. I think it's correct. I think it's true. Some of the other ones coming down the pipeline are going to go Trump's way. And there are going to be people who are very unhappy, very unhappy about that. But on this tariff issue, they are saying, yes, he can embargo, he can shut down all trade, but he cannot. He can regulate it, but he can't take a dollar. Isn't it interesting? The interstate commerce clause has been used in so many abusive ways for government overreach, all under the idea that regulate means, you know, you can do, like, whatever you want. Regulate means, oh, it's crossing state lines. We can do whatever we want. And yet on this one, regulate cannot mean imposing any kind of a, of a tariff, import duty, whatever you want to call it. Scott Bessen spoke about this. Again, this is cut 23, and he talked more about the plan continues, just like Trump's view of this. They're not stopping, they're not slowing this down. Play 23.
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Scott Bessen
I want to point to what we're doing. The president, the administration remains undeterred in reshoring American factories and getting rid of these massive trade imbalances. That's the big story here, is that we are immediately going to go to Section 122 tariffs and that the revenue for the U.S. treasury for 2026, the projections are unchanged.
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Buck Sexton
So he's saying they march along as expected on this one and they're going to keep pushing in the same direction because despite what everyone in the so called economic or economist intelligentsia had said, it did not destroy the economy, it did not create out of control prices. All these things. The parade of horribles that we were told would result from this did not happen. And so you would think that would be indicative of, well, maybe Trump's onto something here and he has been on so many of these things. I remember in the first Trump administration, the desire that Trump had not only to change trade with China, but to renegotiate nafta. And all these people who were supposedly experts were saying, that's crazy, that's crazy. Of course it's not crazy. NAFTA was negotiated in the 90s. The Internet was barely a thing. Plenty of reason to look at the trade agreements that we have with neighboring countries and review them. And so he was fundamentally correct on that. And in dealing with China, there was the collective wisdom, communist wisdom. The general consensus was if you do anything to China on trade, you're going to antagonize them and cause all these problems for the United States. Meanwhile, they were antagonizing us. We were in a trade war. It was just a one way trade war, China against us. And we were sitting here like, we're free trade. We don't do that. Well, hold on a second. It's not free trade. If they're not free trade, it just means that they're taking advantage of us. Trump, free, fundamentally understood that power dynamic and took the necessary action to deal with it. So, so effectively, I might add, that the Biden administration pretty much continued on with Trump policies on China on trade. So not that Biden was really awake long enough to know what was going on. Point is, I think that he earned the leeway to let him cook, as they say, as the kids say these days, let him cook, let Trump cook. And I think that he's doing a good job with this specifically and he knows what's going to be to our benefit. And fine, they don't like the authority he was using. Now he's using a different authority. He's pointing, they've already cited what the statute is. They're going to use that statute and they're going to keep going, and I think that it's going to be to the benefit of this country. You're not alone if you're continuing to think the people of Israel. Think about the people of Israel and how they've adapted to life after all the attacks in their communities these past few years. We as a nation care about the Israeli people. They are our steadfast allies in the Middle east, and many of our families have direct connections to people living in Israel. Today, even outside of Israel, we see anti Semitic sentiment on the rise. At a time when Jewish communities are experiencing more hostility, more threats and more violence than ever, Christians have a powerful opportunity to say you are not alone. When Christians choose to bless Israel, you're not taking a political stand, you're honoring the root of your faith and standing against hatred. Supporting Israel is more than a belief. And by partnering with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, the ifcj, an organization doing so much for so many Israeli Israelis in need, you're empowering the IFCJ to help those in Israel. Go online today. Visit ifcj.org Again, that's ifcj.org you'll be amazed at all they are accomplishing with our donations.
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Buck Sexton
Judge Eileen Cannon for the win. You might not have even heard of this story. This one is worth a couple minutes on Judge Cannon down here in Florida. The great state of Florida has ordered the Jack Smith Special Counsel Report to be kept under wraps. There you go. This is the Washington Post. A federal judge in Florida blocked public release of Special Counsel Jack Smith's extensive report extensive on the classified documents case against President Donald Trump. A resounding victory for Trump's efforts to block public viewing of what probably would be damaging details. That's what they're saying about his retention of classified materials after he left the White House in 2021. The decision Monday morning from U.S. district Judge Cannon resulted from litigation has dragged on for more than a year. Cannon ruled that releasing the special counsel report could violate grand jury secrecy rules and result in impugning their presumption of innocence. For Trump and his co defendants in a case that did not result in guilty verdicts, the ruling can be appealed. Trump and the Justice Department opposed the public release. First Amendment. Advocacy groups and media outlets pushed in Cannons Court for release. Yeah, no surprise there. Smith charged Trump in 2023 with 40 counts. Little trip down memory lane. 40 counts of illegally retaining classified defense information and obstructing government efforts to retrieve the materials. Two of Trump's personal aides were charged with obstruction alongside him. 40 counts of illegally. I mean, it's almost hard to. You go back in time, you think about what they tried to do to Trump and all the stuff they did. You say 40 counts, and that's just that one case, the 35 or 36 counts of the nonsense in New York. All these different judges, rather prosecutors, just completely abdicating their most basic ethical responsibilities, all on the surface of politics. And the craziest part of it all is that it helped propel Trump to be president again. The whole thing backfired. I mean, I think that is very clear now. The whole thing backfired on them. Thank you. Thank heavens. I mean, thankfully, that's the way it went. But it is, in retrospect, just stunning that we went through this, that Trump went through this. You know, a lot of people get indicted for minor stuff and they can't sleep at night. You know, they're a wreck, they look gaunt, they lose weight. What's going to happen to me? Trump took four criminal cases in four different criminal cases, all bogus, but he took them in stride. That is pretty amazing. And he took a bullet through the year, and he took that in stride, too. This guy is. He said it. He is built different. There is something very different about him. He is able to keep going and keep pushing forward. Maybe there is something to drinking 15 Diet Cokes a day. I don't know. I like Diet Coke. Trump's got some secret that he could share with all the rest of us. Gavin Newsom, on the other hand. Gavin Newsom. Oh, boy. We're going to be talking about him a lot. We're not going to have a choice because he's going to run and he is going to make a lot of noise while he's running. And I think he's probably going to be the Democrat nominee. Maybe some other options that come up, but I still think that Gavin Newsom ends up winning. This thing tells you a lot. There's 350 million people in this country, give or take. The best the Democrats can do is this guy. Just so you know, I'm just like all of you. I got a 960 on the SAT and I can't read.
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Buck Sexton
Gavin, Whoa, buddy. Here he is on cnn. Another issue that he likes to weigh in on. Talking with Dana Bash about the trans athlete issue. This is 29, hit it.
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Gavin Newsom
There's no doubt that the Democratic Party needs to be, dare I say, more culturally normal. I believe that. Less prone to spending disproportionate amount of time on pronouns, identity politics, more focused on tabletop issues. But I think if you can't hold the line on social media, on competitive sports, again sports, it's a, there's some nuance in this larger conversation. But competitive metal sports, if we can't find that nuance, I think we're going to lose a lot of people that aren't. We're not going to get invited to a larger conversation. So I do think we have to be more sensitive in that respect.
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Buck Sexton
Listen, the way he kind of speaks about the issue, but also dances around the issue. Dudes have an advantage over chicks in sports. Ok? That's what we're talking about here. That's obvious. We all know this. And that there is a lunatic 20% of the country, all Democrats who want to pretend like that's not the case is a huge problem for Democrats, at least in national elections. And there's a whole chapter in my book Manufacturing Dilution about this, where we talk about this issue where rather where I write about this issue and, and how it's not a fringe issue to Democrats, it's a critical issue to Democrats because first of all, they have invested so much in this. You have to remember they can't just walk away from this now. They can't just say, oh, yeah, we were wrong about that. Think of all the damage, all the wreckage that has been left as a result of their lunacy. No, they want to keep, they want to keep fighting on this. They want to keep pushing forward on this because they also want to make people bend the knee to whatever madness is mandated. They want to make you agree. They want to make you nod and mouth the preferred slogans whenever they tell you to, however they tell you to because they know they've got you. Then if they can make you say that a man is a woman or that a man can compete against a woman in sports and there's no disadvantage for the woman. They can get you to say everything, anything, however they want to, and that's the real power that they seek. There's also a huge apparatus behind this, this trans agenda stuff of, you know, what happens to like the gay rights movement, for example, all these entities that were supporting that. Well, then you Had Obergefell and then that sort of was that. And now what do all these organizations, entities do? Oh, it has to be on the trans issue. Now, where does a, how does a progressive. Progressive in the realm of gender and race and these things in an America that has gay marriage in all 50 states and in which, if you actually look at the data on race, there's. There is no. Oh, here we go. There is no legalized systemic racism against non white, non Asian minorities in America. In fact, there are legalized racial benefits for those groups in this country. That's the truth. That's what the Supreme Court just found, which I know also contrary to what we have been told for a very long time, another manufactured delusion out there that the only racism that we could speak about was the kind of ephemeral or, you know, in the ether racism, the bigotry of broad perception all. What about like minority contracting out of D.C. in the government where people pretend that there's some like Alaskan, you know, Inuit that is running their contracting company and really it's just a bunch of rich guys who run this thing as. It's just a mess, okay? The whole thing, it's a racial spoil system and it must stop and it's madness. So, yeah, that's another component. That's another component of all this. But Gavin Newsom is going to be out there making his case to the American people and doing everything that he can to appeal to anyone and everyone. And that means he's going to do the, you know, hey, like, I'm cool just like you, and I'm going to kind of, I'm even going to change the way I talk a little bit and all of a sudden be a little more street, you know, a little more down to earth. And again, I could tell you that this is going to backfire on him. I don't think it is. I think if anything, Gavin Newsom is, he's willing to say whatever he needs to say to any audience in the moment. And that's what Democrats expect. Actually, this is not. There's a. We often talk about the different broad cultural themes of being on the right or being on the left in this country. But there's different political cultures too. Democrats going around. And remember Hillary did her thing when she went to a black church and she spoke and everyone was Democrats doing this thing where they pander. They're expected to pander. Now there are some Republicans who pander a bit too. I get, I get it. But it, we're a little more like, you know, slow down, slow down on that. And particularly pandering to minorities or different religious groups is something that I think Republicans have less of a, well, tolerance of. Yes. But also, we don't, we don't demand it of our politicians. Democrats demand this. You have to play this game. And Gavin Newsom will certainly play it. But when he says that they're going to lose people unless they're willing to say that there's a fundamental issue of fairness in all of this. Yeah, there's also. It's a dude saying he's a chick. This is not right. This is not true. They're lying to you. It's a person with problems. They're lying to you. We all see the lie. And I'm sure you've seen these. This guy who's like trying to compete in the Olympics. Powerlifting. It's a large man, says he's a woman, grows his hair out a little bit. Now he's going to compete against women. The whole point of sex segregated sports is we understand that there are massive biological differences. And look, any, any, go ask any of your bodybuilder bro friends out there or, you know, go online and just see what they have to say about this. You can run, you know, you can. As I say, you could pin testosterone at a certain level and it starts to function pretty similarly to steroids. It's not technically like the same as some of these big nasty steroids that bodybuilders will take and people will talk about, but just the hormone in, in super physiological levels. Testosterone will result in more muscle growth, more strength, these kinds of things. And men have a heck of a lot more testosterone naturally than women do. So it's also. I saw, I think it was, I'm trying to remember who it was shared online. They just finished this like, big study that found out that men overwhelmingly have a higher sex drive than women do. I was like, I can't believe we're still studying this stuff. It's like 75% of men are more interested in sex more of the time than, than women are. Yeah, that sounds about right. That sounds about right. I think that is, that is definitely the case. But the rejection of basic biology and the enforcement of a sameness over all of us that does not exist. This is also a dream of totalitarian regimes and has been for a long time. You'll notice something, whether it's in the Soviet Union or in Maoist China, people are men and women dress far more similarly. It's very drab. Part of this is because they don't have the resources to like make nice clothing in those con in those places at the time. But there, there was a huge move toward women doing the same roles as men, women going to the factories alongside men, all of this kind of stuff. It's actually why the Soviet Union had a whole. I'm talking about the Soviet Union, not modern Russia, had a whole universal child care program. Oh yeah, you can read about it. You can check it out. Universal child care. You know, give your. Give your child into the local, you know, commissar facility and then go work in the factory for 10 hours, you and your wife. So there's something about being able to break down the gender differences between us that is really also a form of ultimate control. And also I think that they recognize that for really most people, your immediate and most intense loyalty is to your family and husbands, to wives. And there are gender roles that our society is built on. If they can break those down and replace it with some other framework, some other thing, they can recreate society entirely. That's like a much deeper philosophical view of the collectivist left. But that all comes into play as well with the gender discussion and why they're always doing this gender. And it's not even just the trans thing. It's now it's, you know, non gender, agender, bigender, trigender, whatever this stuff is. So they come up with new stuff every day. All right, Cell phone service is no longer expensive. $120 a month. Bills should be more like $25 a month. And this is where Pure Talk has your back. Switch your cell phone service to PureTalk and save as much. And save as much as $70 or more a month. Your savings can add up to $800 or more per year. If your current cell phone company is AT and T T Mobile or Verizon. Make the switch and save money while not sacrificing any quality Pure Talk services on the same phone towers and network and has the exact same 5G nationwide service. For $25 a month, PureTalk gives you unlimited talk, text and plenty of data. PureTalk is an American wireless company with an all US only customer service team. 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