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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
the Wednesday edition of the Clay and Buck Show. My friends, it was the best State of the Union speech I've ever seen. I'm just gonna come right out and say it. A little bit of a mea culpa, actually, because I am a little salty about State of the Unions. Most of them are boring because they go too long. I watched every minute of this one, as I tend to always do because this is our job. But it was not boring. It was. It was soaring, it was majestic, it was pageantry. It was fantastic. Honestly, I feel like a movie reviewer. I laughed, I cried, I felt my heart soar. It was fantastic. I mean, it was the best. I could not say enough good things about Trump's State of the Union. He was absolutely dialed in, locked in en fuego, all of the above. Now we will dive into some of the policy, of course, as well as the very well deserved victory lap. That would mean that was the bulk of the opening, certainly, of the speech. And the Democrat responses, oh, my gosh, this Democrat Party is nuts. In fact, I think one of the most powerful moments, Clay, of the entire. Now, look, before I get into the Democrats, actually, I want to focus on the positive here because many of you are probably familiar with Internet terminology and for example, the red pill, which comes from the Matrix, which I've been saying for a long time, actually, I used to say this on my show, Clay, when I was doing a Saturday show for like five people on the Internet. I would say, guys, you know, we got to take the red pill here. And it became very popular because of the movie the Matrix. And it means to see things as they truly are. But now there are different pills with corresponding colors. And there are people on the right. There's. There are people that will say, you're taking a. A white pill means you're seeing things in a very sort of benevolent light. Red pill is you're seeing things as they are. Blue pill is you're part of the normies, or you still have the. The world sort of shrouded and presented to you without seeing with clarity and. Which is from the Matrix. And then the black pill is. I'm just, Everything is bad. We're never going to win. Everything is terrible. There's some black pilling that happens sometimes on the right where people just want to get down. And I saw a little this in the commentary of. But what about this And Trump didn't do that. Clay, I just want to set this marker because, I don't know, I don't say that every State of the Union address is great. In fact, most of them, I think are a waste of time. Most of them I do because it's my job. Not only was this the best State of the Union speech, that was a marker, a high point, I think, for looking back at what has been, in its totality, an unbelievable first year of Trump's second term. And I'm somebody who was there in the trenches with the fighting back against the Russia collusion stuff, which was totally messing Trump up in the first term and, and sandbagging and, and, you know, undermining everything he was doing and dealing with the bad picks that he had in that first administration. I'm not a, oh, rose colored glasses guy. Everything is awesome. Clay, before we get anything else, I just, I think it's worth taking this moment of this administration has delivered on an enormously on securing the border, on bringing down the crime rate nationally, on a booming economy. We can go through this piece by piece. The data speaks to it. Everyone needs to take a moment, enjoy the win, enjoy the victory, because unfortunately, this too shall pass. He will not be president forever. He might not even have the House for more than another year. And the Democrats will get into this. Clay, they're insane. They are a wacko party.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I mean, I think that to me is. Everything comes down to a couple of moments. Even more so in a social media age. Most people did not watch a two hour speech and you loved it. I gotta be honest with you, it would have been better if it were an hour 15 instead of nearly two hours. So I was watching. I was also doing what a lot of other people are doing probably. I was watching a basketball game simultaneously on a second screen.
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Clay Travis
This is the most Clay thing ever. You're watching a basketball. We're switching roles here. Usually you're the one that loved the movie, so to speak, and I trash it. You're not trashing it, but you're saying it was too long, which is what I was worried was going to happen. I actually sat through the whole thing and thought that he really pulled the whole thing off without it. I mean, I, look, I think all State of the union should be 30 minutes, but that's me, I'm crazy.
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Buck Sexton
I thought that it went on too long with that in as my criticism because I, I, I think it just dragged to me. I thought it was the most optimistic, patriotic speech that Trump may have Ever given. And if you were just a reasonable person.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
Not someone who is a Trump deranged psychopath. And you just watch that. I think the results would be somewhat similar to what CNN actually showed, which was 64% of the speech. Viewers really liked it. I would say there's about 35% of people TRUMP could have come out last night and said I cured cancer. All of your grandmas and grandpas are now going to be resurrected because of massive technological advantages and you're going to get to hang out with your family again. And they still would complain. Right. Whatever the greatest thing, and I balance the budget and whatever the greatest accomplishment that you think a president could render, there's about 35% of the population that would hate it just because Trump has broken their brains. And I thought there were two things that really stood out Buck. One was when Trump said they're insane. And the second one was when they're not willing to stand for, for things that are completely non political in nature. And I think this is going to bounce back in Democrats disfavor in a fairly substantial way because being retro, sort of retroactively opposed to whatever Trump is in favor of, it is working against them. And I thought Trump did a good job of making a case. If I were giving advice, I would have said do it in 115 instead of 145. I think 30 minutes of that speech could have been cleaned up. But so much of it was just a spectacularly optimistic story about America and how our lives intersect with the 250-year-old history of the country. And in that way I thought it was very well done and the most optimistic, probable speech that Trump has maybe ever given in his presidency.
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Clay Travis
You noted two of the most important policy, which I think pretty universally people felt like the Democrats not standing for. We want to put citizens above foreigners, basically. Like Americans matter more to the American government. Their future and their well being matters more to the American government than other people. Democrats just fundamentally don't believe that actually Democrats view anyone from anywhere in the world, no matter what their, their, their background, their language, their politics, their, their credo, whatever as well. Maybe that could be a voter. You know, I'll just start giving them welfare and turn them into a voter. That's how they view that anyone from anywhere, anyone is as American as any of you. As long as that person is going to be on the government dole and vote Democrat. That is truly how they feel and how they think of this country, which I think is a huge vulnerability for them. Politically, it should be, or else we're just on a slow glide path into the side of the mountain and our sovereignty is done. But Clay, the two moments for me that were particularly just powerful, the USA Hockey team thing, that I'm not a hockey.
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Buck Sexton
So many, I got so many thoughts on this too, that we can dive into eventually, but that moment was pure cinematic gold.
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Clay Travis
It was, it was, you know, Ronald Reagan high fiving Hulk Hogan on the back of a triceratops with, with American flags fluttering in the background, you know, flanked by eagles, like, I mean, it was, it was amazing.
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Buck Sexton
All right.
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Clay Travis
It was an absolutely beautiful moment for, for the country. And it was just so cool. Those young guys there, you know, the big win and it really is about America. And I think I, I would hope that even somebody that despises every aspect of Trump's policy at least had their, had their moment. You know, they smiled and looked at those guys and said, they are, they're our boys and they did a great job. And our gals, they weren't, they weren't there last night, but, you know, the gals team did a great job too. And I just think that that national pride is something that I want to see in everybody, irrespective of who they vote for. Unfortunately, Democrats, a lot of them, not all of them. It's not fair to say all of them, but a lot of them don't. And Clay, the other moment for me was when he told the story of the pilot, Chief Warrant Officer Slover.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Going into Venezuela, getting his legs. I mean, I'm assuming it was probably getting hit by seven, six, two rounds. I mean, I don't know. They didn't talk about this, but getting hit by, you know, getting hit in the legs and in the hip and continuing as a Chinook pilot to make sure that, that that bird came down and the mission was completed. And that guy, you could tell he's still recovering, there's still probably a lot of pain he's dealing with and, and immobility issues from, you know, you get hit with those kind of rounds, especially talking about hip stuff. That's very. Point is, man, that guy's just an American hero, an American badass, and be able to give him the Medal of Honor. I know there are other Medal of Honor winners too, and they had amazing stories, but this guy just happened. I just. That, that wasn't about Trump, right?
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Buck Sexton
Yes, totally.
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Clay Travis
It's about the country, truly. So how can they not love that? How can, how can you be an American and not say, you know, this is one of the best of ours right here. This guy who put it on the line and got the mission done.
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Buck Sexton
Eric Slover is his name. And what. First of all, he looked uncomfortable being there because I guarantee you, if they had given him a mic, he would say, well, I was just one of insert number of guys doing my job.
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Clay Travis
That's how those guys are at the highest level, the operators. That's how they are.
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Buck Sexton
But as he stood there and he was still, as you said, recovering, he had a, I think, crutches basically to help him walk. He looked like an American badass monster. In a good way, right? Just huge. I don't know how many, you know, reps on 3, 15 that guy could do, but I would go for a high number. I mean, he looks like a guy who had committed his heart and soul to defending America, to touch such an extent that he was there to get the utmost of his body and give the utmost of his body on behalf of the country. And that to your point, they had 200-year-old, a World War II veteran, a guy who flew missions, I think they said, in World War II, Korea and Vietnam. I mean, both of whom were getting the awards. I thought it was the most patriotic, pro American speech that Trump may have ever given. And here's what stood out to me, Buck. And I think this ties in with the US Men. And I've got so many thoughts on a deep level about this. You can argue, as we have said on this program, about what the tax rate should be on corporations, and you can argue about what policy should be in place when it comes to ice raids and all these other different things. But really, what I think President Trump distilled with this address is there is one party that is proud of this country and proud of the United States and feels intense patriotic loyalty to America, and that is Republicans. And then there is a party that is ashamed of America and everything that it represents, and that is Democrats. And that is a big, major issue writ large that doesn't have anything to do direct with policy. And I thought Trump's address was delivered right at that intersection of conflict over the existential and supported and super important question of is America a good and just country or not? Republicans say yes, Democrats say no. And I think that goes to the very essence of our political battles in this day and age. And I thought that address really focused on it also.
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Clay Travis
Trump just taking a moment for him here, because there was a lot of stuff that really was about the country and that was. It was beautiful. And all of the victory laps that he started out with are just, they're just factual, too. This isn't. When Biden says things like American jobs, we brought back the economy, it's like, you mean you Democrat maniacs allowed people to go back to work because they had already gotten a nasty cold that they weren't going to die from in the first place because they weren't, you know, at high risk. Like, that's your great economic contribution to stop ruining everything and spending us into oblivion. The accomplishments that Trump was laying out last night are just that they're accomplishments, no matter how you slice it. The reality is he's done incredible things. But the other part of this, Clay, is he's just a showman, man. I mean, when he goes up, when the Democrats are, you know, oh, they're, they're, they're shrieking and howling and they're all so upset and they're acting like, really acting like the, you know, the unruly children in the school auditorium that the dean has to go and give a talking to. You know, Trump is just like, yeah, you're crazy. You know, he's shouting them down. The guy just puts on a show. It's. There's nothing else like it. We have seen nothing else like it. And I thought it, I thought it was phenomenal. Do I always think that a speech could be short or short? But I actually, last night was the first time that I wasn't like, this has gotten brutal. That was, that was kind of my meaning. Got got way too long. So overall I thought it was his best State of the Union speech. And I go into these things pretty with low expectations. So we'll talk about some of the Democrat stuff, some of the big policy moments. Also, Clay, I think worth discussing this. Setting aside money for American children in accounts, understand, like, basically putting everybody in a place where they will benefit from the American economy and the financial system. There's some big things about this that I think really matter and we should discuss because this is, this is a way you want to deal with like, the wealth gap and you want to deal with quality of life and all these things. There's, there's a lot to this.
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Buck Sexton
Uh, by the way, we should have taken George W. Bush's advice a long time ago and indexed Social Security to S&P 500 index funds. If we had, the country would be on much sounder financial shape. Instead of you giving all your money and getting back 3% returns or whatever the heck it is, 40 years later, it's a Social Security the way it's set up is just, it's a joke. Throughout the State of the Union speech, President Trump honored our military old and young. Frequently referenced this year's the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. This year also marks the 25th anniversary of the 911 attacks. And the Tunnel of the Towers foundation has been helping America's heroes ever since. Heroes like Fire Lieutenant Michael Wells. Inspired by the heroism of firefighters on 9 11, Michael felt a calling to pursue his dream of serving his community as a firefighter. He devoted 14 years to his fire department, rose to the rank of lieutenant, save lives and earned the badge of Honor for his bravery. Despite his courage, faith and unwavering smile, he lost his battle with occupational cancer. On the 25th anniversary of 9 11, Michael's story reminds us of the profound impact of that day on America's heroes and their families. Michael leaves behind his loving wife Katie, their three kids, and a legacy of service and love. The Tunnel of Towers foundation honored Michael by paying off the Wells family mortgage. Help Tunnel the Tower, support more families like the Wells family. Join us in donating $11 a month and amplify your impact with a car or land donation. Go to t2t.org that's t the number two t.org Clay Travis and Buck Sexton mic drops that never sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
It's the day after a State of the Union that was spectacularly well received as President Trump made the case that his policies have drastically improved life in America for many. And he ran through all of those arguments. I just come back to again, Buck, he ran on EBC economy border crime. After one year, the economy is very strong. Growth rate in the third quarter 4.4%. Inflation down to 2.4%. Mortgage rates just hit a four year low. For those of you out there in the housing market looking for 15 or 30 years, you are now getting lower rates than at any time since 2022 before the Biden inflation took over. You've got record high stock prices at the s and P500. The Dow Jones effectively you have as we talked about and I think it's such a huge deal. The safest country from a murder perspective that any of us have ever lived in. You have basically everything going really, really great. And by the way, 800-282-2882 if you want to weigh in, but I want to you mentioned Buck and I think you're right. And it seems to be the part that is echoing very strongly today. The US Men and Trump basically calling Democrats crazy for refusing to stand when he asked them, hey, do you think you should try to improve the lives I'm paraphrasing of citizens more than illegals. And one of the angles that is, that is being used to attack Trump and by proxy the US Men for visiting with Trump who had won the gold medal for the first time in 46 years. I mean these U. S men are being attacked mercilessly by many in left wing media. And I thought that, that we should maybe dive into this. I think. Do we have producer Greg this clip ready now? Okay, so if you're out there and you're wondering, okay, why are they getting attacked? Yes, they're getting attacked because they went to the White House because they're unapologetically pro America. All those things are true. But if you push back on that and you point out what is indisputably true, which is people have always visited the president, President, Democrat, Republican has always congratulated gold medal winners and had them visit the White House. What they circle back to, Buck, is Trump insulted the US Women's hockey team. And this is a Laura Travis special. Buck, this is a Laura Travis special because she's fired up about this because she said, I'm seeing this all over my social media feeds. I don't know if you saw this story. A Canadian hockey player shared a photo of him with his daughter at Disney World. He is a Canadian NHL hockey player. He was not on Team Canada. He was not on Team USA and he was Attacked mercilessly on social media because people said, how dare you laugh at a joke about women's hockey players and then have a photo posted of you with your two year old daughter at Disney World talking about how you're a girl. Dad, this is real. I don't know if you saw this.
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Clay Travis
I mean, they're insane. But how do they know he laughed at the joke?
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Buck Sexton
He didn't. He wasn't even there. That's my point.
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Clay Travis
They're just attacking.
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Buck Sexton
No, they're just attacking every hockey player right now because they're saying, oh, he's a misogynist. He laughed at a joke. And so I wanted to play the joke because it's much less significant. But this reminds me of the very Fine people hoax when they spent years telling you that Trump, oh, Trump loves Nazis. He said they were very fine people and he didn't. But they so embedded the idea that what he had done was say that Nazis were very fine people and white supremacists. And in fact, he had done the opposite. He had actually condemned them. So usually when you go and deconstruct a joke, this is what losers do because you either laugh or you don't laugh to at a joke and you don't go back and then say, oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't think about the, the larger context of the joke and how it was going to impact the indigenous people whose land we stole. And I feel, oh, so please forgive me. This is what they're saying. They're saying they want the US Men to apologize for laughing at a joke. So here is the joke. I want you to listen to it and then I'm going to do an actual deconstruction of the joke and show you how dishonest the coverage of this has been. So producer Greg, this was in the locker room. Cash Patel's holding up his phone. President Trump is congratulating the team. Listen, we'll get the cash and we'll
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Clay Travis
get the military to get you guys out.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you, Mr. President. What would really be cool?
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Clay Travis
And we'll do the White House the next say, we'll just have some fun. We have medals for you guys and
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Buck Sexton
we have to, I must tell you,
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Clay Travis
we're going to have to bring the woman's team.
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Buck Sexton
You do know that. I do believe I probably would be impeached. Okay, okay, so he's making a joke, but I want to deconstruct this. And by the way, if you couldn't hear it, the men in the background are actually cheering and Saying two for two, meaning they both won gold medals. But when he says that, he says, otherwise, I'll be impeached. The joke is at the expense of Democrats and anti Trump deranged people who would attack him if he had just invited the men and not the women. They would say, oh, you're super sexist. Oh, you're misogynistic. So the joke is actually at the expense of his critics. Second part of this book, the women who are outraged by this, and it's everywhere on social media, the crazy cat lady battalion is fired up because they're so outraged that people laughed at that joke, which was actually at their expense, and they're not smart enough to see it, or they didn't actually listen to the joke themselves. Here's the second part of this. Buck. If Trump had delivered the most perfect invitation to the White House that has ever occurred to the US Women's gold medal hockey winning team, the same women who claim that they are offended by that joke that we just played would actually immediately demand that the US Women's gold medal hockey team not go to the White House because to go would be offensive to their politics and therefore the women can't go. So what you have here is an entirely manufactured story which has caught fire on the left that is not rooted in the joke itself. And you also have primarily women complaining about the way an invitation was conveyed when they would never want the invitation to be accepted in the first place. And Buck, I want to play this. This is msnbc. If you're out there, maybe you're like me. Maybe you voted Democrat in the past and there's a ton of you out there listening. Maybe you weren't like Buck and at nine years old, you weren't reading William F. Buckley and convinced little bow tie
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Clay Travis
yes, drinking Earl Grey tea, thinking about the future.
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Buck Sexton
Maybe you weren't like Buck. Maybe you're a little bit more like me. And if you're looking around at the society, you think to yourself, I haven't really changed that much and the world, as President Trump said, has just gone crazy around you. This is 2012. This is 2012. On MSNBC, a hockey player chose not to visit Barack Obama's White House. And this was how they covered it on msnbc. This was left wing orthodoxy just a few short years ago.
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Clay Travis
Listen, Boston Bruins goalie Tim Thomas rsvp. Thanks, but no thanks to a White House invitation. What do we make of that? Tim Thomas said, I exercise my free right and my right as a free, free citizen and did not visit The White House. This is not about politics or party as in my opinion both parties are
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Clay Travis
I mean I think this is kind of the hyper partisanship that just irritates everybody. It's like just go to the White House. You don't have to do run an ad or cut a commercial or anything.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Just go to the White House, take part, celebrate.
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Clay Travis
Just like everybody else celebrates with Republicans or Democratic presidents, especially when you're getting honored. Obama made sense specific mention of him during his six minute address.
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Buck Sexton
Buck not going to the White House was actually the insult. Now this is my position writ large. So if you want to clip this in 20 years and I've got a different opinion, you can play it. For 20 years I've been saying if you're on a sports team and you get invited to the White House, I think you should go. I don't see it as an endorsement of the President. I see it as a celebration of you and your teammates accomplishments. Everybody in America basically had that opinion, Democrats, Republicans, independents until a few short years ago. And this is why this is important. The US men haven't said a single thing about politics. They haven't told us what they think about any issue under the political sun. And during this entire attack that has been going on on them, it's entirely based on the fact that they are patriotic, that they respect the office of the presidency and that they are willing to celebrate the accomplishments of the country which they think is the best in the history of the world. Isn't this kind of. It's important to understand that their very patriotism is being used against them by the left because the left, I really do believe this is important to Slam Home hates the country and the country's history. And they are using these US men who are super popular as a way to attack all of this. And I think it's important to put it into context just how illegitimate and unfair all of this has been.
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Clay Travis
I also think that it highlights Clay when you have Spam Spam Burger. I know it's Spam Burger but I think Spam Burger is more, more apropos when you have her. Isn't it interesting? Also you have Slotkin and Spangler Spammer, both former government analysts like yours truly. So what I tell you guys, there are a lot of commies in the government, that's for sure, you know, doing the civil servant thing. But when she's the one giving the response, which I watched some of it, I honestly at some point turned it off. But when you're watching this thing, Democrats to attain power have to pretend that the soul and the plan of their party is something other than that, which it is. The problem Republicans run into is when they're in power, they can't get everything done that they want to get done. And sometimes that's because of some Republicans standing in the way, but it's not, oh, we're doing something totally different than what we sold you on. Joe Biden ran as a calm unifier and then said, get the shot with your vaccine passport or you can't go to work and you can't go to school and you can't do anything, ok? These people run on a mountain of lies to get power and then they just ram through as much crazy left wing nonsense as they can as fast as they can and hope that through propaganda and through manufactured delusions, they might be able to fool people, or rather, well, fool people, but also make people forget what they've done in the past. The Democrats last night, Rashida Tlaib had a, you know, a profanity, you know, like, sounds a bit like my name. And then ice on her button and you're like, what, you're a member of Congress at a State of the Union address. You're not part of the Marxist student alliance at, at CUNY at City University of New York or something like, what are you doing? But this is who they are. They're malcontents. And the ones at the top, the ones that are like the more sort of elevated than the street communist types like Nancy Pelosi, they're so corrupt and so venal and so self dealing and just soulless. This is who they are.
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Buck Sexton
Amen. And I do think that for people who watched last night with persuadable minds, and I understand a lot of people, it doesn't matter what happens. I said Trump could have come out and said he's cured cancer and brought everybody's grandma and grandpa back to life and there'd be people who are angry at him. But for the people who are persuadable, the data reflects that there is still a substantial majority of Americans that believes in the country's history and greatness and that this is the best country in the history of the world. And that is the reality under which the Democrats are opposed. And I think that's significant. And by the way, 800-282-2882, we'll take your calls, get your talk backs. We only have one guest today. Marsha Blackburn, Senator from Tennessee, is on next hour. But that is the only guest. So you guys can weigh in and tell us what you thought in addition to everything that we have already broken down based on last night's State of the Union
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
But you could on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast the right place.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back into Play and Box. And we got a bunch of calls, a bunch of things to get to and discuss talk about. If you want to talk for a second to Clay about the book situation here.
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Buck Sexton
Oh yeah, I tease that. I think this is important. I appreciate him calling. You might think, oh, what is the impact of distribution in bookstores?
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Clay Travis
It's huge.
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Buck Sexton
They don't put by and large conservative books in the front of bookstores. They intentionally under buy them. So I mean, what did the guy say? There were two copies of your book and there were three copies of your book in huge bookstores with a brand new release. That's been the case with every one of my books too. They which is why Amazon is actually where most of them get sold. They said that 90% of conservative books are sold is the number that I've heard on Amazon because you can go right to it. It gets shipped to your home and that's great. But it means that only people who know you exist get exposed to your ideas. Right? They don't play John Meacham in the front and you walk in and you're just shopping and you think to yourself, oh, who is this guy? What's the arguments that he or she is making? We don't get any of those opportunities in the cultural landscape. They bury the book in new releases. They've got two copies or three copies, they sell them out immediately. And then this guy's going in because he's, you know, a book buyer and he expects for the book to be widely distributed and it's just not. It's not an even playing field in that respect.
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Clay Travis
If any of you see a copy of Manufacturing Delusion, if you're happen to be going through an airport this week and you see it on display, please take a photo and tag me and let me know in any of those. Because that's another big thing is, is the airport book by situation. But I'm wondering if any of those stores that carry those books, whatever they're called, the stores, if they have manufacturing illusion, if they're trying to sell it. Because, yeah, to your point, Clay, you don't get the benefit of. I mean, you imagine if I walked into a Barnes and Noble and there was a big display of my book, maybe a dashing photo of me with windswept hair and Manufacturing Delusion in both hands, you know, just like letting it go. No, that's not what happens. They, they. And to be clear, it's not about money. They'd be making more money. They don't want to make more money. They don't like us. That's what it comes down to. Don't like us, don't want to help. And unfortunately, there are some of these industries still where the grip, the political grip on the throat of the business is very strong. Advertising still, overall, and ad buyers, libs. Lib dominated. Totally lib dominated. And publishing. Now there are conservative imprints at big publishing houses. Obviously one of them printed me. I'm not saying that it's entirely. But in terms of the distribution side of it, like who's buying the books for the stores to put out, Totally lib dominated. And it's just, you know, I just wish we could do something about this. I can't say have Elon buy Barnes and Noble, but maybe he could probably get us. He could probably get it for a song.
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Buck Sexton
It just matters a tremendous amount in the marketplace of ideas. You can mention bookstores, and that's the perfect example because people theoretically going into bookstores are going there to buy books. And one of the fun things about going to a bookstore is the serendipity of finding a book that you did not anticipate or know existed and you think, oh, this would be a great read. Book browsing is still a big deal. Here's the other one that I think is even more significant. Buck airports.
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Clay Travis
Well, that's what I was just saying. I want to see books in the airports. This is.
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Buck Sexton
What's the last time you saw a conservative book walking through the terminals at a display where you would see it when you're in an airport? How many people buy books in airports? Huge percentages. They don't exist. They do not exist in that way. So the caller's right. I mean, this is a, this is a significant issue. And we've got a bunch of callers, by the way.
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Clay Travis
Yes, we have a bunch of callers, which we'll get to know. Andrew in Kentucky, you're up. What's going on? Love your show. Just wanted to call and mention my favorite moment from the State of the Union last night. It was when Trump was talking about the SAVE act and he was talking about the hypocrisy of the left and mentioning the Communist mayor of New York, Mondami, and talking about how he was asking for snow shovelers, but those snow
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Buck Sexton
shovelers needed to bring in two forms
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Clay Travis
of ID and a Social Security guard.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's. I mean, look, we hope everybody in W O R land is doing well out there and certainly on Long island where they got over two feet of snow. And if you're listening to us in Rhode Island, I think they got three feet of snow. And by the way, mentioning Momdani, did you see the videos that have gone
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Clay Travis
viral of all snow, of the cops or the snow getting. I, I think it is absolutely despicable. I don't think it's funny. I wish that those cops could have caught a few of those guys with a nice truncheon to, you know, the side of the knee. I think it's, it's horrible because I know people. Oh, it's a snowball fight, actually. First of all, if you don't want to be in a snowball fight and you're getting hit from multiple side. It's just assault. It's actually assault and battery. And, you know, some of these guys are throwing things that are basically ice. So you're throwing like a handful of ice at a cop from close range, and there's so many people that they can't do it. You know, they're not able to do anything about it. I thought it was grotesquely disrespectful. I hope people get arrested for it. They won't get prosecuted in any meaningful way because it's brag. But it just goes to show you how disrespectful the, some of the, unfortunately, some of the residents of New York City and just, you know, these are all leftists, the people that are saying it's not a big deal. They're all leftists. They hate cops because cops force the reality of accountability on people. And the whole game of the left is no one's ever accountable. It's always, you're always a victim, it's always someone else's fault.
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Buck Sexton
Also, I just can't even imagine if you are the kind of person who's going to run up. And some of these were, they've got some photos out of people they're trying to arrest. Some people were running up with basically boulders of ice to throw at cops.
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Clay Travis
Smacking on the cops. Yeah, it was really, really nasty. I mean, they clearly were taking advantage of the situation. And look, these people deserve a good, swift punch in the face. You know, I don't know what else to say. I mean, they, they deserve to get an ass kicking.
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Buck Sexton
And also, to your point, what do you think the odds are that people who have been completely law abiding their entire life decide to attack police officers with snowballs? I would bet those people have records that are a mile long. Likely because it's such a moronic thing to even think to do for most people.
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Clay Travis
Look, and the cops have a tough job day in and day out. They do all over the country. And you know, it's often a thankless job. Not always. You know, they do sometimes perform the Heimlich on a baby and save a life. I mean, you know, there's, there's obviously thanks with it too. And you know, I think a lot of communities, I said here in Miami beach, we're very supportive of our cops. And you know, there's a very safe community. Cops are very well respected here, which I really like that. And you know, the NYPD went through a post 911 period where new Yorkers, I think were particularly prone to show gratitude toward the nypd. That's of course faded though. And when you see this kind of disorder where you have these people doing this to police officers, like what, what is the mindset of somebody who thinks that this is funny? Like that's someone's husband out there probably, you know, those cops probably married, probably have some kids and you're all smacking them with ice in the face because they wear a uniform and they're trying to keep the streets safe and Trying to keep bad things from happening to people. What part of that is funny? What part of that is amusing? So you know this, but this is Alvin Bragg. He's a scumbag, He's a bad person, he's immoral, He's a race hustler. He clearly has a tremendous amount of animosity for certain people of certain backgrounds. And he won't do anything about this. Guarantee you even if they're arrested, he'll do the bare minimum. And I think what you're going to see is Jessica Tisch. And you know, I grew up knowing the Tisch family a little bit in New York and they're good people and they love the city. I think you're going to see Jesse Tish say, I'm out because. Because there's not the back. If you don't have the. If you don't have the district attorney and the mayor catching your back as the police commissioner and doing the right thing for law and order, your. Your hands are tied. Doesn't matter.
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Buck Sexton
This is one thing that Eric Adams got right. The safety in New York City got far better during his tenure than it was before. And I think the fact that he is a former cop, it's not coincidental that that was the. That was the outcome. He got it. I'm not saying he was perfect. Clearly he wasn't an ideal leader. But you see the story.
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Clay Travis
Serious. Yeah, He, Eric Adams, Clay had serious managerial limitations. Like he just doesn't. He's not a guy you want running a hundred billion dollar city budget operation and all the different. He's just not up. He wasn't up for that task. He doesn't have the ability to experience, you know, he. But he was in over his head. But he doesn't hate cops and he doesn't actually think that like criminals are good people. And that was an improvement over de Blasio, to be fair. Into what you're saying, that was an improvement over de Blasio. You know, Mamdani is much more of the de Blasio mold and we're going to see, I think, more and more of this. And just wait until you have your first major incident with a cop in New York. It will happen. It's inevitable at some point and see which side of the equation Momdani falls on. But you know, the statement guys pull, the statement that Mamdani made about was very. Oh, it's. Well, here is. We have it. OK, play cut 37. Here's Momdani speaking about these cops who were. They were Being assaulted. I know people. Oh, it's just snowballs. Okay. You can watch the video yourself and tell me if you think that the cops were enjoying this. Play it. I've said that what I saw was a snowball fight.
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Buck Sexton
It should be treated accordingly.
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Clay Travis
It was one that got out of hand, but that's what it was. I'm not going to be banning snowball fights or organized snowball fights. I've shared my thoughts with New Yorkers. I mean, what if people just walk by cops and just. Just smacked eggs in their faces? Is that funny? Is that a joke? It's against the law. Mamdani is also, unfortunately. And by the way, Trump is too nice about him. He was, too. And I know this is. Sometimes Trump is. He's funny because they all say, Clay, that Trump is. Trump's actually very nice as long as you don't try to, you know, go toe to toe with him. He's very charming. Mandani's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. He's actually not a nice guy. He's a bad guy. He just smiles a lot and is, you know, smooth with people.
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Buck Sexton
The. Yes, I agree with all of that. And he's falling rapidly on his face with a lot of the different decisions that he's made. And one of them you were talking about, Jessica Tish, is that New York City is basically deciding, due to a budget crisis, to not fund 5,000 police officers that they had previously anticipated and expected to fund. That's going to eventually blow up on them. There's no other way this is going to go. And believing that you can be kind to criminals is a luxury of a low crime environment. And inevitably it leads to more violence. And I would just come back. I mean, I guarantee you if they arrest the people who were throwing cops, throwing snowballs at cops aggressively, they will discover that those guys have been arrested multiple times before. Because I just don't buy. We're not talking about, like, a fun. If the cops are actually engaged in the snowball fight, too, that's a snowball fight. Running up to somebody and pelting them constantly with snowballs because they're wearing uniforms is not a snowball fight. To your point, if it were eggs, it would be an assault. These guys should be charged. And I think when they're charged, you will find out that they've been charged with multiple offenses before.
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Clay Travis
Right. I mean, I could walk up to someone and say, I'm patting them on the back and whack them as hard as I can and do real damage and be like, I was just patting you on the back. I mean, right? We all know these games. We all know that. And this is of course a classic leftist thing. But what Mamdani said there is disgusting. What I saw was a snowball fight, you sniveling little coward. Someone I don't want. I don't want to go. He's just the worst, man. He's just the worst. And it's a disgrace, A disgrace that New York has this guy calling the shots.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
We are joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn of the great state of Tennessee, which has given us both a fantastic Senator and a fantastic Clay Travis. So we have so much to be thankful for Tennessee and thank you for being here, Senator.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Well, I'm always so delighted to join you all. Thanks for having me back.
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Clay Travis
It really was an incredible State of the Union and that comes Senator Blackburn from somebody who thinks even his own team, State of the Unions are usually kind of boring and go too long. I thought last night was remarkable. I just wanted to get your top line thoughts on it and how was
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
was remarkable. And the two hours absolutely flew by because the President just kept rolling right on through all the objections that the left side of the aisle was throwing their way. I was so pleased. He laid out where we were a year and a half ago with 9% inflation, with chaos in the world, and, and then he drew it to today where we're at 2.4% inflation, the price of gas coming down, the price of groceries beginning to normalize, wages going up and job opportunities increasing and our standing in the world is restored. Our allies are working with us, our adversaries and enemies fear us. They know that President Trump means business and that he has the backing of Republicans in the House and the Senate.
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Buck Sexton
Were you stunned, even as someone who has been involved in politics for a long time, that when they had the mom of a murdered innocent woman and they had her stand and when they had Charlie Kirk's wife Erica stand and when even on a much less serious front they brought in the U.S. men's Olympic team, that every Democrat didn't stand up and clap. I wish there had been even more of a camera on the larger viewing area so you could see it. But I got to admit I was kind of staggered. I don't know who gave Democrats that advice, but including, hey, do you think your job is to take care of citizens or illegal immigrants?
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
That's right.
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Buck Sexton
I couldn't believe the way they behaved.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Their behavior was appalling. And the fact that they would stay sitting in their seats and not stand to honor these who have lost loved ones to honor those that have served our country, to honor the oath that they took to protect and defend and honor the people who voted for them and elected them to make certain that they were there to serve the people. It was absolutely astounding. But you know what? This is where the line of distinction is. What we have seen is the current Democrat Party, which is led by the far left wing of the Democrat Party, the Democrat Socialists. They would rather take care of illegal immigrants than they would take care of the people that voted for them. They would rather provide for illegal immigrants than provide for the citizens of their states and the citizens of this nation. It is astounding.
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Clay Travis
Senator Blackburn, you also wanted to talk to us today about this case currently with the courts involving social media. And there's the Kids Online Safety Act. There's a whole range of issues coming together here. Can you just tell us first what is going on right now? We've got Mark Zuckerberg recently had to show up in Los Angeles County Superior Court. He testified he's a CEO of Meta. There's this whole court case going on. It's with the jury right now. What are the items at issue and what do you want to see from this case?
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Yes, indeed, this case, which I will say this, Mark Zuckerberg being on the stand in this case, I don't know what the outcome, the legal ramifications of the case are going to end up being. No one can tell us exactly because there's a jury involved. But what I do know is this, that Mark Zuckerberg lost in the court of public opinion because he continued to say that social media had nothing to do with the accelerated levels of anxiety and depression, eating disorders, teen suicide and this bucket of mental health issues. When the research that Meta has and whistleblowers have given that research to us and of course it was presented in court. And you know that they know what they are doing to kids. You know that they are designing programming to capture younger kids. We all know that the valuation of Meta and Google and all of these big tech companies, it is based on, on the number of eyeballs they draw to the page and the amount of time they can keep those eyeballs focused on their platform. So I think he lost in the court of public opinion. It has brought forward the need to pass the Kids Online Safety act that came out of the Senate 91 to 3. We have 75 Senate co sponsors on it. It is significant. It would put in place a duty of care, a product by design safety standard for the virtual space that is Something at this point, we do not
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Buck Sexton
have your grandkids, Mike. My sons go to a similar school in the Nashville area that has a good technology policy, which is. And I know they probably maybe cheating right now, but they're not supposed to have their phones, they're not supposed to be able to text message during school. And if they're caught with cell phones during school hours, there are consequences. Shouldn't this be the standard for every school? Basically, in America, you're a grandma. Before that you were a mom. As a dad. I think it's a no brainer and I think it's super bipartisan. Are you in favor of this? More and more schools not allowing kids to be on phones during the day?
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
Oh, yes, indeed. Bell to bell, no cell. That is a very good policy for kids. And you know, there is an, there's a growing body of research that shows that children who do not have a cell phone on their desk, in their backpack, within reach, their test scores go up, their achievement goes up, their participation in class increases. And the more you see this research, the more you know that it does matter and you realize what a massive distraction it is to have that cell phone at the ready. I think one of the things that is so interesting about this also is talking to parents, teachers and principals. Most of the behavioral issues that take place on school, school campuses find their nexus at the cell phone. And the bullying is 24 7. It never stops. So putting those phones away for that period of the academic day forces kids to focus on what they are studying. It means that kids that go to study hall are actually doing research work. They're writing papers, they're pulling books out of the library shelves. And hearing from librarians about the change in behavior during those study halls is something that has not been lost on me.
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Clay Travis
Speaking to Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. When you talk about. I just want to bring us back to this for a second. The social media issues for kids and online duty of care. Are the social media companies, are they just saying that that's impossible, it's too expensive, it's not necessary? I mean, what's the counterargument? Because usually when it comes to any political issue about children, everyone at least pretends that they care about the kids, right? I mean, even the big companies pretend. So what are they saying in response to this? Why, why would they, you know, will they go along with it? I mean, why does it even require an act by Congress?
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
They have proven they cannot police themselves. They have also proven that when kids are on those phones Kids are the product. And you know, one of the interesting things is that every industrial sector in this country has product safety standards. Whether it's an automobile, a toaster, a mattress, a curling iron, everything has a safety standard. Everything except the virtual space. And the reason for that, Big Tech has spent millions of dollars lobbying. Last year, fourth quarter of the year, in order to take down the Kids Online Safety act, Meta hired one lobbyist for every six members of Congress and spent $20 million. I'm somebody that knows what it feels like to have Big Tech come barreling after them with lots of lobbyists, lawyers, and millions of dollars because they do not want to change their business model. They would have to change that business model. If you put in place a safety by design standard and if you delink the algorithm so that the algorithm can be controlled by the parents and the kids and not controlled by the platform, they don't want that.
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Buck Sexton
Senator Blackburn, last night I was at a In the Black is what it's called event about trying to balance a budget. A bunch of people, you know were there. It was awesome. I know you're running for governor, but the federal government inability to remotely make decisions that have to do. Let's, let's use as an example right now basic election integrity. You're going to be on the ballot in November. Tennessee, thankfully, has really great election integrity. But the fact that white, black, Asian, Hispanic people overwhelmingly believe that you should have to show a photo ID in order to vote to prove you're who you are, what's going to happen with that in the Senate? I think there might be a filibuster. How's that process going to play out? I still can't believe this is unpassable. Basically based on the Democrat response.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
You know, it's an 80% issue with the American people across all different demographic groups. And that's the thing that is so interesting, the fact that it has such a. Such broad bipartisan support. I mean, Zoran Mandami wants you to show two forms of ID in order to go shovel snow in New York, but he doesn't want you to show an ID to vote. What they're trying to do is make it easy to cheat and hard to vote. We want to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat, and we have got to have photo ID in the Senate. We are going to push the Save America act first forward. I look forward to having a vote on the floor. It should be common sense, standard practice that you have to be a citizen of the United States in order to vote in our elections and you have to show an ID and prove who you are. When it comes to the issue of the balance budget, it I have supported a balance of budget amendment for the United States. We have that in Tennessee. We have to balance our budget. We can't borrow money or print money. We have to be very careful about that and be a good fiscal steward. It means that some years, the leaner years, you cannot do some projects you want to do. And then it means when you do have years where you have a surplus, you have to be wise about where you place those dollars. The federal government should do likewise, and they would be well served to do likewise.
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Clay Travis
Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn
You got it. Take care.
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Clay Travis
There's a specific reason why the price of gold grew by 65% last year. Economic uncertainty. When there's turmoil, when there's uncertainty, the value of gold goes up. Investors looking for safe havens is. Well, that makes a lot of sense, right? Safe havens. Gold is just one of those. A solid, reliable investment. Over the last 20 years, gold's up over 700% in value. Think about that. Over 20 years, up 700%. And you don't have to trade in, trade out, and play all kinds of games. No, no. You just buy gold and hold gold and that value creation happened. Birch Gold Group can help you purchase gold. That's who I rely on. That's who I get my gold from. They help you diversify your savings with gold, particularly within your existing 401k and IRA accounts. Birch Gold Group walks you through the process of buying gold in clear, straightforward terms. When I work with them, couldn't be any easier. No pressure, no complexity. They educate you and they give you options. If protecting a portion of retirement savings makes sense to you, it's worth a conversation. Remember, you can also put gold into your existing 401k or IRA accounts. By doing a transfer, they can diversify gold into those account. Diverse accounts with gold Text my name Buck to 989898 Text Buck to 989898
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Buck Sexton
Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history. On the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck highlight Trump Replay from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Feeling overwhelmed by stress and uncertainty? You're not alone, and encouragement is closer than you think. @intouch.org Dr. Charles Stanley's ministry provides powerful sermons, daily devotionals, and resources designed to strengthen your faith. It's more than information. It's transformation. Discover peace in the chaos, clarity in confusion and and practical wisdom for everyday life. Whether you're seeking hope, guidance or simply a reminder of God's presence, InTouch.org is here for you. Visit today. You'll be glad you did.
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