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Clay Travis
Clay Travis Buck Sexton show wins, wins wins. We just keep stacking wins. As I am speaking with you and as Buck is speaking with you, Elon Musk and Donald Trump are having a joint news conference in the White House. We have been rolling on that. We will have several different clips of newsworthy commentary from that media availability. We've got a loaded show for you. Let me give you a little bit of a roadmap of where we are headed during the course of the program next hour. Byron Donalds will join us. Congressman from the Naples area of Florida. He announced last night on our friend Sean Hannity show that he is going to be running for governor of Florida. Donald Trump has endorsed him. He will be speaking with all of you at the top of the next hour. And I will rest ass. In addition to talking about him being potentially the next governor of Florida, hold him accountable for the Florida State Seminole collapse in football last season. Because Buck, you'll remember one of the last times Congressman Donalds was on the program, he just wanted to debate me about whether Florida State should have been in the College Football Playoff. And then since that debate, basically Florida State's wheels have come off and so we'll have some fun with that as well. Uh, then a guy who is doing an incredible job. He's been on with us before, but he has not been on with us since he became border czar. Tom Homan is going to be on with us next hour as well. So that is where we are sitting on the guest front. But I wanted to start Buck with the newest angle of attack on Trump which I think is going to be one of the least effective attacks on Trump ever. It is Trump is a dictator and he is trying to control the media too much around him. Now I have some stats for you that were shared this morning on Fox News because I think it basically ends this argument to a large extent when you look at the number of questions. This is prior to today when Trump has been up there answering questions like crazy in his first month in office. This is January 20th to February 19th. Donald Trump, Buck, according to Fox News took 1009 questions from the media. 1009 Joe Biden in the same time frame his first month in office took 141 questions from the media. And Buck, those numbers declined precipitously for Biden as he stayed in office longer. You can criticize Trump for a lot. Not being willing to talk to the media and tell you exactly what he thinks is maybe the lowest level of criticism for Trump. But this is the latest desperation because the White House is remaking the credentialing process in real time for who is allowed to be at many different events.
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Tom Holman
I love watching the White House Correspondents association get publicly dismembered. I drink their tears. I I joyride in the wreckage of their souls. I can't get enough of this and let me tell you why. Have you ever been to a White House Correspondents association dinner, Clay? I went once very early.
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Clay Travis
I've never been invited. I don't think I'M cool enough to even get invited. I would. I'm not going to pretend that I'm cool enough to say no. I have legitimately never been invited to the White House Correspondents Dinner.
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Tom Holman
I'm going to tell you something, Clay. The White House Correspondents association dinner is worse than being forced to watch the new Beverly Hills Cop movie on Netflix. It is.
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Clay Travis
That means it would be amazing.
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Tom Holman
It is absolutely brutal because you have all of these incredibly self important people. We're the ones holding up democracy. We're the ones speaking truth to power. All lies by the way, which everyone knows now more than ever. But the whole thing was a preposterous joke and I absolutely loathed it. There were some fun other like after parties, I'm not gonna lie about that. But the actual event itself was just one giant self congratulation for what's effectively a lib journo cartel. Why should this continue? Why should some establishment media outlet, or rather media collective, that's really what it is, a bunch of commies. Why should they get to determine who gets access to the West Wing? Why shouldn't the administration determine who gets access? And what you've noticed is that the expectation is Republican presidents have to have enemy regime media meeting Democrat aligned media full access all the time. And that's just the way it is. But you know, if a Barack Obama wants to, wants to just trash Fox News and say that it's an enemy of democracy and block them from interviews and everything else. Finally we've woken up.
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Tom Holman
Side, look, it took Donald Trump coming along and metaphorically punching the other side in the face over and over again for us to see, hey, we don't have to put up with this anymore. And it's such a breath of fresh air. You know, my, my only complaint would be I still think that we give too much to the legacy media when it comes to the debates and we did even in this last cycle. But it was one debate with Trump and you know, he did great and obviously we saw what the result was. So I'm not going to, I'm not going to get too aggravated over that. But the point is this shift that Caroline Levitt as the White House press secretary and obviously on behalf of Trump, this shift that's happening right now is long overdue. And also from Jeff Bezos saying, you know, Clay, on the one hand, I like that Bezos is just talking about the Washington Post having to be, be pro capitalism and pro individual liberty as a mission statement. Did he not know what he was buying.
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Unknown Business Announcer
He's so rich.
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Tom Holman
I know that sounds crazy, but he's so rich that he may have just written the check for the Washington Post based on its reputation without actually knowing what the heck did he. He bought a communist rag of lunatics.
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Clay Travis
All right, I'm going to try to defend Bezos on this just like you're.
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Tom Holman
Defending Beverly Hills Cop.
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Clay Travis
I am going to defend Bezos here. I'm going to attempt to. I think that. Well, how old is Jeff Bezos? 52 or 53, something like that?
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Tom Holman
I mean, before or after the stack.
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Clay Travis
If you know how. Well, yeah, he is now. You know, he's going to. I was texting with some friends and they were saying that Bezos has gone full Latimer in the program. For those of you out there who remember the great college football movie the Program, one of the guys just gets loaded up on, on steroids, is a great player but can't pass a drug test at all and just starts behaving like crazy, beating up people left and right. Bezos is the Latimer of media right now. He has suddenly gotten loaded up on testosterone. He's moved to Buckstown in Miami. There's hot chicks walking around everywhere. Miami is the best looking city in America.
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Tom Holman
I'm sorry, number one, it's insane. If you're just a normal person walking around here, you feel like you're in the worst shape of any human being on the planet.
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Clay Travis
I don't. The percentage of women that just wear spandex every day in Miami is. It's off the charts. Like I would walk to Buck's Buck.
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Tom Holman
Studio, including the moms that have like four kids in strollers.
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Clay Travis
That's what I'm saying. Even the moms are just walking around in spandex. Nobody's got any clothes on. Everybody's incredibly good looking. Bezos moved to Miami, he got a hot girlfriend. He gets loaded up suddenly on testosterone. He now can bench press more than £225, which, Buck, if I had to tell you one thing that you could point to, to guess how someone would vote for men who can bench press £225. How many of them do you think.
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Tom Holman
Vote Democrat, 10 to 1, Republican to Democrat, 10 to 1.
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Clay Travis
Or, you know, they just don't care about. About doing anything political. But I agree, if they actually vote, it's got to be 10 to 1, Republican to Democrat. If you're a man and you can bench press £225. So I think what happened, Buck is Bezos read the Washington Post historically, and I've talked about this on the program because I went to college in D.C. the Washington Post was left of center, there was no doubt. But Republicans in the 90s and the early 2000s respected the Washington Post.
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Tom Holman
Well, they carried, just to point out, they carried Krauthammer, you know, his column George Warren, and they didn't carry it with disdain. I mean, he was one of their featured columnists, and Charles was a great columnist. I grew up reading Krauthammer among many other columnists. Also George Will, who, unfortunately, he could probably use some of the Bezos treatment these days, but put that aside, he could use some chalk. You know, they. There wasn't. It wasn't that they were right of center, to your point, but there also wasn't an outright undermining disdain and hatred of anybody who was put.
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Clay Travis
Democracy dies and dies at the top of the newspaper.
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Tom Holman
I mean, they've gotten crazy, for sure.
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Clay Travis
You could read Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon. They would make you laugh. You know, they weren't obsessed with toxic masculinity. They didn't employ people like Taylor Lorenzo and that crazy Jennifer Rubenstein or whatever her name is. It was left of center, but normal, like much of the country was. And one of the things that I think Trump is doing is we're returning to the days of the 80s, 90s and early 2000s slowly. The revolution that is occurring is just a revolution of common sense. And so, Buck, I think what happened was Bezos is super busy turning Amazon into one of the most successful businesses in the history of the world. And he recognizes that he wants to have an influence on something other than lowering the price of diapers and managing to get flip flops to you in six hours, which is something that's happened, like I ordered flip flops the other day.
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Tom Holman
It's pretty awesome. Let's respect.
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Clay Travis
You know, I mean, the business that he built is incredible. And I think he thought, this is a part of giving back. It's a small fraction of his overall net worth. And then he started to read the paper. When he retired, he moved to Miami. He got a hot girlfriend, probably went from benching a hundred pounds to suddenly being swoles. Jeff Bezos, right? He's. He's throwing up weight everywhere. And I think, I believe they call.
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Tom Holman
Him Beast Mode Bezos.
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Clay Travis
Around the beast most Bezos has shown up, and I think he finally decided that he was willing to stand up to the newspaper. He started to hire people. He hired a former Wall Street Journal editor, he started to fire people. And I've said this for a long time, there's no point in having FU money if occasionally you don't say f you. And if you're one of the richest men in the world and you own a media outlet and you think that media outlet is producing really poor journalism, which it was, and far left wing biased journalism, some of which Buck actually would cover Amazon and him. So I think the coverage of the newspaper, of him personally, he looked at and said, this is not very good. And I think he finally stood up and said, I'm going to try to drag this paper back towards some measure of decency.
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Tom Holman
A couple things to throw into the mix here. One is the winds are blowing really hard in this direction right now. So I'm not about to give somebody a big old high five for their love of the Constitution and patriotism because.
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Clay Travis
They realize the Trump, certainly the Trump.
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Tom Holman
Juggernaut is, is going where it's going and you might as well get out of the way or hop on the, hop on the train, right? So that's part one, part two. And I think we've seen this from a number of the Silicon Valley barons, which Bezos, yes, Amazon. But he's in a little bit of a different category than, than some of those other guys. I would, I would argue, although he's been in the game a very long time, but they didn't realize how crazy their side really was. There has been some of that. There certainly has been that with Elon. He's admitted that. And there have been others as well who were so focused on what they were doing building these online companies and these global behemoths that were worth, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars that they didn't recognize that the party that they had become, that they had long been used to voting as a part of, had just basically gone insane on a whole range of issues. I do think it was a, it was a surprise to Elon. I don't think he was the only one. I don't think Naval Ravikant would have considered himself right wing. I don't think he is right wing even now. I just think he's a sound thinker. And it became impossible to be a sound and logical thinker and still be in the good graces of the Democrat Party. So for some of these guys, that's been a big, a big break with the left wing consensus.
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Clay Travis
Look, I'm about five or six years ahead of some of these guys. So I tend to, in terms of my Political evolution. So I tend to be more lenient than you do. I get it. Because you and, like, frankly, me have been dealing with these guys, guys putting up roadblocks to us being able to just argue what we believe. The Washington Post has not been very kind to me when they've written articles about me. Facebook censored both of us. So Bezos and Zuckerberg are not my bros. Like, I'm not like, hey, I want to go grab a beer with these guys.
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Tom Holman
I don't think I've. I mean, I don't really check it on Facebook. I don't think I've gained, like, a person on Facebook in years. Yeah, how is that possible? Right? I mean, it's because. Because I'm in the back end. There's some out. You know, I get slapped. By the way, conservatives, a lot of them who have done really well on Facebook, there's something going on there. I don't know what it is, but they've got some hookup or they've got. Because if you've been speaking the truth for years, you have been shut down on Facebook. No question about it. And a lot of good conservatives have just stopped using it because of that. But the people that are still, like, has spent years. If you made it through the pandemic and you still had millions of followers on Facebook and you consider yourself a conservative, you sold out somewhere. I don't know how that's possible.
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Clay Travis
This is such a big point in general on so much of the media evolving in real time. Evolution is very kind. I think that the cost of saying, hey, I'm a Trump guy has got. Has vanished. That is the social cost. You mentioned it, Buck. Like, we're hearing from people, hey, you go to the gym in New York City, somebody's in a maga hat. You lived in New York City. You would have never seen somebody at, like, Equinox.
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Tom Holman
Jack, before I met my amazing wife, I had people who. Who broke. I would meet them in person, and if I asked them out on a date, they would bail on me because they were like, I cannot believe the things that you publicly say about Donald Trump. That happened a few times. You know, you're at a party. I don't know what someone's politics are necessarily. You get the phone number. I'm a single guy. Bailed on the date because I like Trump. So I paid my dues.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Well, first of all, it's great to be with you guys. Yep, I'm running for governor of Florida. I announced last night. And, you know, look, for me, I came to the state at 17, I got it. I, you know, I got off a Greyhound bus in Tallahassee, Florida, to go to college. I had a trunk full of clothes and that was about it. And I was able to build a family, a career in finance, not even dealing with politics, it was before politics, and build a career in this state. And it's been wonderful to me and I want to make sure that it continues to be the best state in the country, bar none. You know, we've had great leadership by Ron DeSantis and there's been so much work that's been done to move Florida from a purple, from a blue state to a purple state to now a red state. And my mission is just to keep it going and make it better than it's ever been.
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Clay Travis
Byron, we're going to get into the governor race and all those things, but I said in the first hour that I had to ask you the most important question in the mind of many people in Florida. What in the world happened to your Florida State Seminoles? One of the last times you were on with us, you were arguing that you should have been in the playoff Now, I mean, are you guys even going to be able to beat anybody in the ACC this coming year?
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Buck Sexton
You know what? That's a low blow. You weren't even supposed to do that. But that's all right. Listen, Florida State, it was a tough year last year. Well, we'll be back. But I still stand by what I said the year before. We should have been in the playoffs because we had a fantastic season. But last year just things didn't work out. So, you know, we're going to retool and we're going to rebuild and we'll be back. Don't even worry about it. One thing you got to know about the Florida State Seminoles, we're unconquered. We're going to make sure we return. We're going to be back better.
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Clay Travis
You know, I don't know if you know this, Byron But Buck's wife is a Florida Gator grad. What should Buck has never been to an FSU UF game and it's one of the great rivalries in all of college football. What should he know about that in state? Florida rivalry and how bitter and frankly fantastic it has been for football fans over the years.
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Buck Sexton
Listen, it's one of the best rivalries in football. It's intense. Make sure you go and then when you go, make sure you go. It doesn't even matter if you're in Doak Campbell or you're in Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. It's always a great time. The teams come out and play hard. The records don't even matter in these games. It's smash mouth football. It is a great time and it's the same type of rivalry like Michigan and Ohio State, like Alabama and Auburn. It's just a great time, great feeling, great event. You know, somebody wins, somebody loses. You know, Florida State's won a lot of them, but so has the University of Florida. But look, make sure you get out there and watch that game. It's phenomenal. I try not to miss it.
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Tom Holman
Speaking of Congressman Byron Donalds, he is running for the next opening in the Governor's Mansion here in Florida. But Congressman, I want to broaden and out nationally here for a second if I could. You and President Trump have a great relationship and obviously he has already come forward with a full throated endorsement of you for Governor of Florida. What are you thinking right now about how it's all going? I mean, as you're seeing Trump and Doge, with Elon acting on behalf of the president, shaking up the system, the media in retreat. Just I wanted to get your take on is this all moving even faster than you anticipated and how do you want to get in on the action and help?
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Buck Sexton
It's actually moving faster than even I thought. But I will tell you that the team has been committed to having this be done. And it's one thing when you just have a chief executive who's mission minded, but when you have a team around him, that's also about the same mission. These are the results that you get. They've been moving at warp speed and it's a great thing to see. And I think in terms of getting in on the action, that's just Congress doing its job. Last night we were able to pass through a budget resolution to start moving the President's agenda through Congress. We've passed one, the bigger one, the Senate passed a smaller one. But we're going to start Rocking and rolling in Congress to meet the moment and meet the urgency that the Trump administration has come back to Washington with. And it's been a great thing. Listen. I was listening to the Breakfast Club. There was a clip of the Breakfast Club the other day from somebody who's a federal employee. And she was saying, like, she doesn't even understand why people are complaining about how you have to, like, send out an email talking about what you did. And if you can, if you could have put that email out, then, you know, what are you doing? You might need to go find another job. And that's on the Breakfast Club. I mean, they're not known to be a bastion of conservatism in America first policy, but that's what the American people are looking for. It's time to be efficient. It's time to just get the job done. And if you're just gonna be an impediment to that, you gotta get out the way. It's about the American people first, second and third. It's not about special interests. It's not about a bloated federal bureaucracy that just gets to continue operating regard regardless of elections, regardless of what are the needs of the American people.
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Clay Travis
I know, Byron, you have a huge amount of support already in Florida. And as you mentioned, Florida is a red state now. The Republican nominee is going to be the governor. I think that's going to be you. Do you expect very many other people to get in the race? What do you think this Republican primary is going to look like going forward?
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Buck Sexton
Honestly, I really don't know. I will see. I mean, look, my focus is just run the best race I can, work hard, get to every part of our state, talk to the people and earn their support. And, you know, whether it's 2 people, 3 people, 10 people, I think we'll be successful. Really. I'm honored to have the President's support. We're building support all over the state from people that I served with, with my time in Tallahassee, people that I've worked with in my time in Congress. And it's really a humbling feeling to know that so many people support you and have your back. But we're just going to take this campaign to the people. It's about seeing people in their communities, addressing their concerns and earning their support. And look, I have the, you know, I have the biggest endorsement in politics with President Trump, but I want to go earn the endorsement from every Floridian because, you know, for our state to continue on the trajectory we're going, everybody's got to be a part of it. It's going to be a total team effort.
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Clay Travis
You got the endorsement of Trump again, in my opinion, you're going to be the nominee. And I don't want to spike the football before we get too early. Appreciate you announcing. Do you think that Governor Ron DeSantis will endorse how do you think that he will play it out? He's term limited out for people out there who may not know. So he cannot run again. 2026, there's going to be a new governor regardless. Are you going to ask for seek his endorsement? What do you think he'll do with the race?
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Buck Sexton
I mean I would love to earn it. And I think the reason and I think honestly, you know, back in 2018, you know, when Governor DeSantis, then candidate DeSantis had won the primary and the radical tried to go at him because, you know of a phrase he used about referring to his opponent. You know, I went and did media and stood in the gap for him because I believed he was going to be a great governor and I was proven right. He has been a great governor. You know, I was there to help him win in 2018. Campaign Forum have always supported him. And I think at the end of the day I just want to be able to pick his brain, you know, learn from him. You know, being the chief executive is not easy. And so there's a lot of I know there's a lot of advice he has. I want to be able to lean on that. And so I would love to be able to earn his support. And I think there'll be a time for that. We'll see how that goes. You know, but in terms of how the rest of the rest of the race unfolds, too soon to tell. I'm just going to focus on my business and really go see the people of Florida and earn their support.
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Tom Holman
What do you think about the recent move from the governor's office, Congressman Donalds to get rid of property taxes here in the state of Florida? I mean that's something that it sounds, it sounds too good to be true. But he seems serious about it. If he's not able to get that done before the end of his term, is that something you would look at? We already think of Florida as a low tax state, but which is great. But I think other states also look at this and say, well, hold on a second. Are there other efficiencies, other things that we can do to make this an even more not just attractive climate for businesses, but for Individuals who don't want to feel like they have to rent their house from the state every year, which is really what property taxes end up being.
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Buck Sexton
No, that's 100% correct. I think, you know, even when Governor DeSantis was in Congress, this is something I believe he was advocated for, and so I think he's serious about it. If they're successful in Tallahassee, I would love for them to be able to do that. And it's something I definitely want to look at. I think it's important for people to understand there are a lot of nuances when you get rid of property taxes. So I'm not trying to hedge. I'm trying to make sure people understand all the ramifications associated with it. But I would be in support of getting rid of property taxes in our state. There are other ways to raise revenue for local government so they can provide for police, for fire, for roadways, and for capital improvements and building schools. There's ways to do that. I think this is a golden opportunity, not just in Florida's history, but in the country's history, to really examine new ways of doing business that are far more efficient, far more responsive to the needs and to the will of the people. And just as a quick pushback for people who would say, oh, well, getting rid of property taxes only favors people who have means or who are wealthy. Let's be perfectly honest. Let's be intellectually honest. If you rent property in Florida, you are paying property taxes because if you rent property from somebody else, you're paying in part the property taxes through your rent. So it affects everybody, whether you're a renter, whether you're an owner, rich or poor. Everybody's affected. So let's if we're going to do this, let's look at it intellectually, honestly, and let's make sure we're doing the best thing for everybody in our state. So especially people who are or they have more access to be able to own a home or buy a home or whatever the case might be. But then from a government perspective, we are efficient in how we are levying taxes on our citizens and that we have to be responsive with the dollars that we're taking from citizens to run government.
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Clay Travis
Byron Donalds, he's announced, Congressman from South Florida, that he is going to be running for governor of the state of Florida. Last question for you here. I own property in Florida. I love it. 30. A beautiful place, Buck.
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Tom Holman
The Gulf of America. In fact, Congressman Donalds, he owns property on the Gulf of America.
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Clay Travis
I do I own property on the Gulf of America. Buck is, is going to be voting in your race. He is a citizen of the state of Florida. What does it say? I want to go back to how you started it off because I think it's super compelling. You came to Florida with nothing at 17 years old. Now you are. It's a great American success story running to be the governor of the state of Florida. What does it say about the opportunity that the Sunshine State offers, your career path and the life trajectory that you have had?
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Buck Sexton
We're a meritocracy. That's what Florida is. Florida is a meritocracy. If you work hard enough, if you grind and look, nothing's perfect. There's pitfalls everywhere. That's just life. But if you work hard and you and you grind and you constantly are looking forward to the next successes, things can really happen for you in our state. You know, and I look at, look, our current governor, he grew up poor. I think it was Dunedin is where he grew up. He grew up poor, and look what he's done for himself and his life. It has been a phenomenal life for him. Governor Scott, Governor Scott, single parent household, like me, grew up poor. And look at what he's been able to do in his life. And so I think that when you take, when you peel back the layers of the, you know, the last two men, the current man to lead our state, Governor Scott before him, potentially me, I think what it demonstrates is in our state, anything and everything is possible. It's hard work, it's determination. It's having your family and good people around you. And as long as you could try to put those things together and just walk through the pitfalls that come in everybody's life, success is really around the corner. So, you know, if that's what it means is being the state's next governor, that that's really a symbol of what's possible, so be it. But it's really about everybody in our state just chasing that dream and Florida being the of freedom and opportunity for everybody in the Sunshine State, Congressman Byron.
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Tom Holman
Donalds, and hopefully the next governor of my beautiful state of Florida, Congressman, appreciate you, sir. We'll talk to you more as the race continues on there. And we really thank you for making the time.
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Buck Sexton
Listen, thanks, guys. I really appreciate it. You guys take it easy.
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Clay Travis
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Tom Holman
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck Immigration. Perhaps the biggest, certainly top two in the mission set for the Trump administration coming in here to this term. And we may be joined here momentarily by border czar Tom Homan. He's busy again. Just like when we had the Secretary of State on. They got a call the next day, they got to call the next day. This is we're going to have a lot of administration people joining us over the next four years and particularly the next 18 months. So you know we are at their disposal, right. Like they know open invite to get these cabinet secretaries to join us when they can. But Trump said this about immigration and this was not an idea I had heard before. It is getting some conversation going. That's one way of putting it. Cut three, play it.
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Donald Trump
We're gonna be doing something else. It's gonna be very, very good. We're gonna be selling a gold card. You have a green card. This is a gold gold card. We're going to be putting a price on that card of about $5 million. And that's going to give you green card privileges. Plus, it's going to be a route to citizenship. And wealthy people will be coming into our country by buying this card. They'll be wealthy and they'll be successful and they'll be spending a lot of money and paying a lot of taxes and employing a lot of people. And we think it's going to be extremely successful.
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Tom Holman
I have a few thoughts on this. First of all, Well, I think 10 million sounds like a better number if we're going to be selling green cards and calling it a gold card. That's the first thing that I thought about. I'm also not sure this is going to get through, but we'll see.
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Clay Travis
I kind of think it's genius. I'm not going to lie. And let me tell you why. There are a lot of countries. So I'm going to put my wife on blast here. Pre Trump reelection my well, hold on. I'll tell you this story. We got Tom Holman, we got this. Who is joining us now? My wife. I'll tell you this story still, unless she blows up my phone, but Tom Holman is with us.
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Tom Holman
TOM holman, BORDER CZAR sir, thank you for taking a moment in the break from among the most important, if not the most important mission of the Trump administration so far. Sir, can you just tell us we've been covering and this audience is very familiar with the details of what has been going on, the total shutdown of illegal crossings by over 90%. All that. Can you tell us what comes now? What are the escalations? What are the things that we should expect in the weeks and months ahead from the perspective of border security?
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H
Well, as far as border security, I'm looking at the numbers this morning. Our crossings compared to by administration, we're down 97%. We're looking at about 200 apprehensions a day, and that's down from 17,000 under Biden. So it's a 97% decrease. The most impressive number I saw was the number of gotaways and 20, 2300. Biden got away. And these are known got aways. These are people who capture on video drone traffic or sensor traffic that got away. They weren't apprehended because Borg patrol was too busy dealing with the humanitarian crisis, families and all that other stuff. So they're dealing about 1800 on average a day. They got away yesterday 41, 41 across 2000 miles of border. So, you know, I'VE been doing this since 1984. I've never seen that number ever. So the southern borders, it's at the best place I remember it being. And President Trump was able to do that, that in one month. Right. So we got some more work to do because 41 got aways are 41 too many got aways. I want zero got aways. Once we get zero got aways, we can say we have total operational control of the southern border and we're going to get there. And I really, truly believe that. So we got some more things to do. Where the Galloways are, we're flexing resources, reinforcement personnel, DoD and Border Patrol to those areas and just see if we squeeze them out. We're asking Mexico now that President Trump forced Mexico, put military on the board, arrest them to appease and deny entry, which means they shouldn't be touching your soil. So we're working on that. We'll get to that endgame very soon. As far as interior enforcement, you know, I looked at numbers more. We're just shy of 25,000 arrests in the interior United States by ICE, vast majority of them being criminals. We need to do better. Like the numbers are more than twice as much as Biden a year ago today. We've doubled the amount of criminal arrests, we've doubled amounts of gang arrests, we've doubled amounts of aliens arrested. But I'm happy, but I'm not satisfied. The number needs to be more. Twice of a president that did virtually nothing is not impressive to me. We can do more. So we're putting more teams out there. We just brought in some contractors on the to increase the targeting, put more targets out there, the field teams to go look for. We got the whole again, we've got the FBI, US Marshals, dea, atf, all these agencies are bringing any criminal investigation they have have to deal with foreign nationals. So we're working on that. I got Pam Binding at the table now soon. Sanctuary cities are constantly putting roadblocks up and causing us to be less efficient. So we got a lot of things working. So I expect those arrests and interior to rise in the very near future, and then I'll be happier how much.
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Clay Travis
Thanks for coming on and thank you for all the work you're doing. We're talking to Tom Homan. 97% down on border crossings, 25,000 arrests, 2 times what Biden was doing on arrest violent criminals. And again, the work you've done in a speaks for itself. You mentioned a little bit there at the end, Pam Bondi being in now Is Department of Justice. You got cash and you've got Dan Bongino now running the FBI. How much opposition? There have been reports that sometimes ICE is getting the raids are being tipped off in advance from deep staters who may well oppose what you're trying to do. How much do you think that is actually going on and to what extent does there need to be an investigation into opposition from inside of our own government?
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H
Well, to what extent? Like I. One is too many. But we, we have identified how the leak occurred for Aurora, Colorado. That's being investigated now. We've identified that person, so we'll see how that investigate turns out. But more likely going to end up in a removal and prosecution. The secretary has information that maybe a leaker came out of the FBI. I'm not privy to that, that if there is, they'll be dealt with too. But I want to say this because the vast majority of agents saw that 99.9% of these agents out there, including FBI agents, are doing a great job. And you know, they're out there taking bad guys off the street. So look, one's too many. We've identified one and maybe another one. But I just came back from Houston, Texas. I ran an operation of colony Ridge, arrested 119 people. That operation went seamless, seamless, flawless. We took a lot of bad guys out there. That's a cartel presence there. But they got cartel presence, no more. So we're going to keep doing it and we're not going to stop. The biggest problem is, is the sanctuary cities who are constantly, for instance, in la, they're putting pictures up of our officers, their names, their phone numbers or address, doxing them. And I actually, I met with Pam Bondi this morning. I want DOJ painting opinion. When you put an agent's picture, name, address, phone number in a public view, said huge. Other people doing this stuff, I think that's impediment. I think that crosses the line. So I want her opinion on if we can go identify who's doing this to arrest them, but handcuffs on them. So I'm waiting that opinion. I should get it any day now.
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Tom Holman
Speaking new border czar Tom Holman, who spent decades as a guy on the front line of our border and the national security implications of our border and understands all the ins and outs of this. And Tom, on the issue of the ramp up, I mean, you've talked about the numbers, first of all, the shutting down the border, illegal crossings the way that you've already done, it's been phenomenal. It has Shown the Democrats wanted the wide open border. So it's a huge win already that the Trump administration has deliberated delivered for the whole country. But then there's the issue of the 10 million plus who came in under Biden and the millions and millions of others who are at various stages of illegal status here. You know, the overall number is not something that we seem to have a real definite sense of. But to get to the kind of numbers that Trump was talking about on the campaign trail would have to be a dramatic increase in deportations. And there is some talk that's already circulating of a private sector auxiliary, if you will. Erik Prince's name has been floated as somebody involved in this. Is that something the administration would consider meaning bringing in private sector to help with the deportations? And if so, or if not, what is the plan to get these numbers to where there are, you know, hundreds of thousands being deported a month instead of of whatever the current number is?
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H
Well, I can tell you I've been told that I've been sent that plan, but I haven't seen it again. Again, I'm dealing with a 500 emails a day without a thousand texts. I'm slammed. I haven't seen that plan. But I've said from the beginning we need a contract. A lot of this work out what I mean non law enforcement work, right? We got badges and gun with immigration story processing. We got them writing warrants, we got them doing transportation, we got them doing intelligence work. We got them on transfer ground in air transport. I want to take every badge and gun with immigration authority and put them on the street. Things that don't like we spend thousands of hours a week processing illegal aliens. That doesn't take a badging gun, doesn't take immigration authorities. It takes somebody speaks Spanish to process these people for us. So I'm looking at now to build out a large contract contracts in machine to take law enforcement officers out of those non law enforcement duties and put them on the street. Of course that takes money, takes a lot of money. So I've been up on the Hill several times in the last couple weeks telling Congress you need to pass this border bill, get us money to do that. And the more money we have, the more successful we will be. It puts more agents on the street, it puts more bad guys in jail and our deportation flights will go a lot higher. But I can tell you this, you know, I was contacted by media first. You know, push this false narrative that removal numbers are behind Biden. Let's remember Biden was counting border Patrol removals with ICE removals. So of course his number's higher. Millions of people, they were crossing the border. We got the border locked down. But if you look at interior arrest, just those arrested in the interior by ice, we more than double them. But again, I'm not halfway there. We tend 10 times more than Biden because Biden wasn't doing very much. So that's. That is the plan right now doing contract and allow this work. I haven't seen the plan you talked about. Looking forward to reading it. But right now we got to get law enforcement officers, every one of them on the street, take them away from these non enforcement duties and get them doing they should be doing, putting handcuffs on a bad guy. So certainly looking forward to reading it. We'll see where we go from there. But the whole concept of contracting that workout makes sense to me. It's what we need to do.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to Tom Holman. Borders are doing incredible work so far. Two part question here. One, how has E. Adams, New York City's mayor cooperation, been with you so far? I saw the Roosevelt Hotel was getting shut down. Second part, can Buck and I come with you on an ICE raid at some point to see for ourselves what your crew's doing?
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H
Answer the second question. We'll make that work. We've had a lot of media out there and we pulled back the media just because we want to verify the leaks. But I'm certainly. Thank you guys.
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Clay Travis
You don't have to worry about us.
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H
Yeah, well certainly, we're certainly looking at right now. Media ride alongs are, are just on hold while we can.
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Tom Holman
I say something, Tom. Clay hasn't really even been to the border. So we would love to get with border patrol, get up in a Hilo, see what's going on. I mean I've been down many times, but we, I want to get down with Clay. So we want to talk to your team about that.
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H
Look, we'll make that happen. Look, I've been from day one I said I want to be transparent with the American people. Show me exactly what we're doing, exactly who we're arresting, exactly why we're doing it. We put a hold on it just while we're dealing with these leagues, but we're getting close, getting beyond that now. So we'll fire them back up. As far as Mayor Adams, well, I'll find out next week. I'll be with him next week. And, and he's supposed to be right in the executive orders. Get back in Rikers if he does that getting us in the Rikers, that's a game changer. But I know he wants to do the right thing. And what, what irritates me is that he wants to be a law and order mayor and because he wants to be a law order mayor, because he's talking to Tom Holman. You know, Governor Hochul wants to fire. And this is the same lady who stood on national TV a month ago when illegal aliens were beating up on NYPD when they were, you know, setting a woman on fire on the subway. She says she fully supports the arrest and deportation of criminal aliens, yet she wants to fire the mayor that's going to let us into Rikers Island. You kidding me? Me. And plus, she still has a green light law, which means if you're a nice agent, if you're a Border patrol agent, you can't have access to New York State DMV data, which means if you're in a patrol car, you're getting ready to pull somebody over like law enforcement does every day. You run a license plate number, it's probably find out who's in that car, who owns the car. See if there's wants and warrants in that car. The men and women of ICE and Borbato do not have access to that data. So, so much for her words. Since she supports the deportation of criminals, she continues instead of her foreign. Mayor Adams, the voters in New York need to fire her because she talks out of one side of her mouth and acts differently on the other side. So she should be removed. That's my opinion.
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Tom Holman
Tom Homan, I think you are the definition of the right man for the job, and it is an absolutely critical job for the nation right now. So we are thankful for your many years of service and we are very thankful that you are in this position now as borders are. And we'll be in touch with you and, you know, let us know we can get the truth out about what's happening there. So. So thank you so much, sir, and please keep up the great work.
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H
And God bless the men and women of the United States Border Patrol. God bless the women, women of immigration, customer enforcement, their boots on the ground. They're making this happen. So God bless them.
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Clay Travis
One reason and by the way, I encourage you as always, go subscribe to the podcast Byron Donalds and Tom Holman both on in the last hour. I think you will really enjoy those conversations. Lots of information from inside of the administration breakdown. I think Byron Donald's going to be elected Governor of Florida next year. That would be my prediction Obviously, there's lots of different things that happen between now and then. Tom Holman is doing a phenomenal job. I think I got us invited on an ICE raid, which, I'm gonna be honest, sounds kind of fun and badass.
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Tom Holman
I think, Clay, you gotta be first through the door. Swinging. Swinging the sledgehammer or the battering ram. I think I. I think I. Clay, have you ever worn tactical gear before where to get you all kitted out?
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Clay Travis
I went, no. When I was a law student, I did a ride around with Nashville local police because they wanted. When we were doing criminal law, they were like, hey, you should actually see what a cop does. And I've been involved in criminal cases, not myself, but as a lawyer.
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Tom Holman
This is lawyers. I'm talking about Clay. I'm talking throwing some flashbangs, throwing some elbows, you know, getting into the.
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Clay Travis
But I remember one of the thing that I found so interesting was my criminal law professor at Vanderbilt University, Don hall, amazing guy, just a great guy, rest in peace. Taught generations of Vanderbilt lawyers criminal law. He said that when he would go, he would like to go because he loved to kind of learn in real time, how do police officer. It's really very fascinating. How do police officers in a dynamic situation apply the law so that the evidence that they collect or the arrest they make are able to stand up under the challenges of defense attorneys?
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Tom Holman
I mean, you're going very academic on this. I just want video of Clay tackling some gang members.
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Clay Travis
This is where I was going. He said he had assisted as a law professor in arresting bad guys. Guys, because on one of the raids that he was on, they had too many bad guys and not enough cops. And he just dove and tackled somebody.
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Tom Holman
There we go. That's what I'm talking about.
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Clay Travis
When it happened, he was thinking, like, this is going to be the craziest legal hypothesis ever. Dorky law professor. And he was in good shape and like. But. But, you know, actually assisting in an arrest would be one of the all time great factground hypotheticals. And that's what he said was going through his mind when he dove and made the tap tackle. I think he, by the way, was an FSU grad. Like Byron Donald's an fsu.
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Tom Holman
We could get you dep. Deputized by ice. But, you know, you know, just. Just remember, you know, it's. It's never. It's fine to throw the elbow, Clay, you know what I'm saying? If somebody tries to take you down, you got to do what you got to do.
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Clay Travis
So I would love to do the raid now. So I encourage you to go listen to our number two. When I asked if we could go on an ICE raid, as other members of the media have, I also love that Tom Holman said that he wasn't worried about us leaking, seeing the ICE raid coming. I think that's a good. I think that's a good hypothesis from him. He's been on a bunch of times over the years, even as Biden had failed with the border. Okay. So we started as we brought in Tom Homan to talk about this Trump gold card idea. And for those of you who haven't seen this, one reason I love Trump is every now and then he says something that I've never heard anybody talk about, like, I've never heard this discussed in any kind of substantial way. And he said, look, there are a lot of countries where you can buy citizenship and you will pay a certain amount of money and you can become a citizen. And let me. I started to, to explain this. My wife, Laura, who you well know, Buck, I would say, has a few prepper tendencies, meaning we're adding a lot of guns. She's got to go back. She's talked about building a, a underground bunker. In the event she has looked during COVID she got really afraid about where the country was going. And when Biden was elected, she did research on, hey, how do you become a citizen, for instance, of a Caribbean nation? How do you become a citizen of a place where you theoretically could be removed? There's an ocean to protect you from chaos elsewhere. Elsewhere. And so she was telling me all this stuff. She's got a law background, too, that there are actually tons of countries out there. And I never really had looked into it or experienced it, where you can basically buy a passport. And it's not just Caribbean nations, I believe the island of Malta, you can pay and you get an EU passport. So it would entitle you to travel, for instance, all throughout the European Union. You're. You and your family. Family. Meanwhile, we got all these people coming illegally into our country trying to become citizens, and we don't, by and large, monetize that in any way. So Trump, the ultimate businessman, has said we should have a golden ticket, basically, where you pay $5 million and you and your family can come to the United States and become citizens. Citizens. And he took it a step further, and he said, if 10 million people around the world did this, we could eliminate our entire national debt. Now, I'm trusting trump on this. 10 million times 5 million. Is that 50 trillion I don't know. I know it's a big number. I tried to do it on my calculator, Buck, and then I got that E and a bunch of zeros, and I'm not good enough at math to know. Can somebody with a calculator confirm Trump's math? He here. In the meantime, listen to the audio.
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Donald Trump
We'll be able to sell maybe a million of these cards, maybe more than that. And if you add up the numbers, they're pretty good. As an example, a million cards would be worth $5 trillion. Five trillion.
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Clay Travis
Wow.
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Donald Trump
And if you sell 10 million of the cards, that's a total of $50 trillion. Well, we have 35 trillion in debt. That would be nice. So we'll see. But it could be great. Maybe it will be fantastic. We have it all worked out. From the legal standpoint. It's totally legal to do.
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Clay Travis
Oh, Buck, this is brilliant to me. And if the math adds up and I'm trusting Trump here because my calculator is not good enough, I don't see what the downside is. You're skeptical. I can see Buck's face. He's like, I don't know. I think this is actually genius. Super rich people, all their assets coming here, eliminating a substantial swath of our national debt. We've got 10 million illegals that came in during Biden with almost no assets. I would much rather have 10 million insanely rich people from around the world paying off our national debt and bring as many of their assets here as possible. What am I missing? What are you. What are you skeptical about?
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Tom Holman
About? First off, I just think the number should be 10 million.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so you actually think we're not charging enough? That I don't think it's enough?
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Tom Holman
Yeah, I don't think that's. I don't think that you should just be able to get to the front of the line on this. Look, here's the. My. My position is that really we've actually had too much immigration for too long and that we need to just be America for a while. Like, we're good. We need to get. We need to deport a lot of illegals. We need to allow assimilation of the illegal immigrants who have been here to occur, which is just part of, you know, time and culture and exposure and being here, you know, that we. It's kind of no room at the end is a little bit of how I feel right now, to be honest with you. I shouldn't say no room, but it's been crazy. All right. And just look at the numbers, the country's never been through anything like this before. We've never had the level of both legal and illegal immigration together in such a condensed period of time to the tune of millions, millions, tens of millions. We have more foreign born Americans than at any time, certainly in the last 150 years. And so we need, we need a little, you know, America gets to just be America for a while. And that means, I think we got to look what Canada is doing. Canada went through this. And by the way, Canada has a point system. How much money do you have? What level of education do you have? And they got all kinds of problems from this. So am I, am I opposed to this in principle? So on the one hand, there's just the, I don't, I don't like, I don't want more H1BS, you know, being added into the mix. I very much disagreed. And we didn't get to talk about this. The whole Vivek take on that I thought was horrendous and wrong and just like blasphemy as far as I'm concerned for America. But anyway, I think that there needs to be a change in the way that we're taking illegal immigrants. Fine. I think it needs to be led. Do we want very rich people to come here? Yes, that's a good thing. They will bring assets, they will create jobs. If it's going to be so easy that you can just buy it, I think the number should be higher than 5 million personally. So that's one thing. Maybe Trump will be with me on that. And I think it would have to be capped. Right. So what he's talking about would be anybody who wants it could come here.
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Clay Travis
Well, first of all, the question that I would have, and this is the data nerd in me is, is what is the total addressable market? How many people actually have the ability to pay? 5. Or in your case, I don't necessarily disagree, 10 million to become citizens. And that's people who are not obviously already in the United States. Because, and I understand people talk like.
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Tom Holman
Can I just throw this out there?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
What do you think there are, there.
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Tom Holman
Are 6 million millionaires in China. Wow, 6 million millionaires in China alone. Is America gonna really feel that much like the America we know if you let in, let's just even say half that, if 3 million Chinese millionaires are here? This is, we're getting into some real numbers. You know, that's a lot of people.
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Clay Travis
Well, what I would say point out is a lot of these people would already own homes in America. So the richer you are, are, the more likely you are, frankly, to stash your cash here.
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Tom Holman
And also should you, should you have to give up your. I don't think you should be allowed to be a dual citizen with this. I don't like that for a whole bunch of.
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Clay Travis
That's an interesting.
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Tom Holman
So I think you have to be only a US Citizen. I don't think you could keep your EU passport or keep your Chinese passport. If you're going to do this program that Trump's talking about, you got to be all in on America. So, again, there's some details that need to be worked out. I'm not, I mean, I, I see the numbers, but. But I feel like there also has to be a component of this that, you know, like, that's a little more of the old school. You love America. You want to be America. Do you speak English? You know, these are all things that I think need to be added into the mix as well, which, by the way, we haven't been doing that. To be clear, I would overhaul the whole immigration system dramatically.
- [67:59]
Clay Travis
What I look at is, if you ask me right now, what is the biggest threat to American power, I would say it's our $36 trillion national debt. And I have heard very few legitimately intelligent takes on how we could ever eliminate that in any of our lives. Because you can't. The math doesn't add up. Right. You can't tax enough to eliminate the 36 trillion. Remember, what Elon's trying to do right now is just get it to the point where we're only spending a trillion more than we bring in and then hope that the growth in the nation is going to be fast enough to eliminate that over time.
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Tom Holman
He's trying to slow down the monster. He's not trying to slay them.
- [68:39]
Clay Travis
That's right.
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Tom Holman
It's impossible for him to slay the monster, and he knows that.
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Clay Travis
My concern is, and this is big picture as we're getting ready for a break, but is the reason why crypto is taking off is a lot of very smart people are looking at our fiat currency, that is the dollar, and they are saying the dollar is diminishing in value every day because Americans have borrowed so much again against it that at some point in time, the borrowing cabal collapses. And when it does, whether you're a billionaire or you're living paycheck to paycheck, you are going to bear the consequences. And I would argue we're all bearing the consequences now, with 7% mortgages with 20 some odd percent credit card interest with the amount, you're not getting a lot of 60 month, 0% interest when you buy a car now. Right. All of that adds up. It takes money out of your pocket. Pocket. So your concern, I think is an interesting one on like geopolitical tensions, who the loyalty of these individuals owe their loyalty to. My concern is if you told me, Clay, you have a magic wand, you can erase one major concern in the United States. To me, it is the national debt. And I've never heard anybody come up with an idea of how to actually eliminate the national debt. My question is, I don't know that the total addressable market of people willing to do this, this is 10 million.
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Tom Holman
But if it is, I don't think it is either.
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Clay Travis
But if it were or if you doubled the cost like you said, and it's 5 million, you could eliminate the whole national debt just with this program.
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Tom Holman
Well, it's also amazing. You think about you can pay $5 million through the legal way, or until recently, you could pay $5,000 to the cartel, run across the border and basically get a lot of the same value out of it, especially if there's ever an amnesty that comes, which the Democrats still want. So, you know, I, I don't, I'm not comfortable the idea of America as an economic zone. And when you're selling citizenship, it starts to feel more and more like there's there should, to me, there should be something more about America than just this is a place where you can have assets, make money and that, you know, there should be some, like we agree on that.
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Clay Travis
We could be.
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Tom Holman
I mean, I could be. I think you're too old now, Clay. But I could still be drafted, you know, like there's something more to this country.
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Clay Travis
That's why you want me going in first on the ice thing. You got too many good years of life yet. I got to take the. I got to take the bullet to the chest.
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Tom Holman
Oh, man. So we'll see. I'm very curious. Let's open this one. This is a real talker. I think this is a fascinating idea from Trump.
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Clay Travis
Have you ever heard it discussed ever?
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Tom Holman
Never. Not really, no. So for and against, for and against, Trump's $5 million, instead of a green card, he's calling it a gold card. What do you think about it? 800-282-2882.
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