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Clay Travis
Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show we are excited to hang out with all of you for the next three hours. Let me hit you with the guests that we have coming down the pike here in the second hour. The chairman of the FCC will be with us. And then that is Brendan Carr. There are a bunch of moving parts in the fcc. Buck probably has not been following it as closely as I have, but also the Paramount versus Netflix battle for Warner Brothers has really heated up and I love all these media stories and so maybe answer questions about that and more. At 2:30 we will be joined by the FDA commissioner, Marty McCary, and we will dive into a bunch of different discussions with him. So both of those stories are on the horizon, Both of those guests on the horizon as well. Several things that are happening as we start off the day. Hillary Clinton is testifying about Jeffrey Epstein and basically she is saying, I've never met him and I've never been on his plane. Uh, tomorrow her husband Bill Clinton will testify and we'll see what happens there.
Buck Sexton
I just really want her to look into the cameras and go, what difference
Clay Travis
at this point does it make?
Buck Sexton
Just for old time's sake, you know what I mean? Just go full Hillary.
Clay Travis
Go full Hillary. And here is that cut that Buck just referenced. Old school producer Greg on the ball. This is a flashback to 2013.
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Buck Sexton
I didn't even know that we had that on the cut sheet. That was, that was a mind meld there. Look at that.
Clay Travis
There's a story that I think should be a way bigger story. In fact, I know she doesn't do media very often, but producer Ali, can you put in a request for Susie Wiles, the chief of staff for President Trump? I'm guessing she's probably not going to want to come on the show because she doesn't do very much media at all. In fact, I've only seen her speak in public a few times. She's doing a great job. But Buck, this story is wild. There are reports that Susie Wiles, when she was Donald Trump's campaign manager in the 2024 election, was under surveillance, as was Cash Patel, who is now the director of the FBI. But that Susie Wiles own attorney was aware that their conversation was being listened to by the FBI, but she was not. Have you seen that report? I, I just, as a lawyer, the number of situ. First of all, I, I can't imagine ever agreeing while I was representing someone without my client knowing that we were being listened to. While, in theory, I am providing legal advice to him or her to allow this to. To occur. This report, this story is out there. The fact that she was under FBI surveillance while being the campaign manager is crazy in and of itself. I mean, it is much more of a substantial infringement probably, than anything related to Watergate. But that her attorney would have been in that situation is really kind of a crazy story. So I don't know how much attention you pay to that buck, but it's one that I think there could be more revelations from. And I would actually like to hear from Susie Wiles herself.
Buck Sexton
Well, if you think about it, it's not surprising at all that the previous administration would have done that. One thing that I was. One thing that I was mulling over during the State of the Union as Trump was verbally slapping around the Democrats here and there, was that essentially most, almost all of those politicians wanted, hoped, and thought Donald Trump would be sitting in prison right now. In prison, actually, in prison. Now, we have gone past this. We have, you know, moved on, I think, quite a bit too fast from where we were in the election year. I know it's been, you know, a year and a few months, but the whole plan was to bring criminal prosecutions against Donald Trump and lock him up. Why would anyone think that they would just be bringing prosecutions against Trump and not trying to ensnare. If you're gonna lock up a former president, why not try to lock up his advisors? Why not try to lock up people around him? And we know, even, like, I forget, like a facilities manager at Mar? A Lago at one point was included in one of the indictments. These Democrats were. Were on a ruthless rampage of political retribution against Trump. The retribution just for him having been president for four years. I mean, they really were after him. And I think we've forgotten because it did get a bit. The escalation of Trump taking a bullet in the ear and then another guy hiding in the woods. And you saw exactly where that was and how close that was and that he got a rifle there and they had to shoot at this guy to stop him. It was the second would be assassin of Trump. I know we just had a guy with a shotgun. Now, Trump wasn't at Mar A Lago Then. But it just goes to show you, there are still crazies out there trying to, trying to assassinate this president because Trump took a bullet in the air. We forget that it was completely normalized among Democrats to weaponize the justice system and try to lock Trump up. It wasn't just, oh, we're going to, we're going to illicitly remove him from the ballot. Another thing that they tried to do that everyone seems to have. When I say forgotten, I just mean it. It's not talked about anymore. It's not. Remember, they tried to take him off the ballot in. Well, certainly in Colorado and we're early stage in this in Maine, but they actually wanted to put this guy in a prison cell. Yeah, that was the plan here. And I just think that. So when you read this stuff, Clay, I think there's even more that we don't know about that's going to come to light about the surveillance, state abuses.
Clay Travis
And there's also reports, and look, you and I told everybody that this was going on, that our good friend Fannie Willis from Atlanta was traveling to D.C. to coordinate her charges that she was bringing against President Trump. And we talked about this a lot. But I know it's easy to forget their plan, and it was foiled by, thankfully, judges who actually applied the law. But their plan was to keep President Trump in courtrooms. They started in New York City. They wanted to have him in Atlanta. They wanted to have him in Washington, D.C. they wanted to have him in South Florida. Their plan was to keep President Trump in courtrooms for the entirety of the 2024 political cycle. That was their concerted effort. They wanted him to jump from one courtroom to another. They wanted to imprison him for the rest of his life. They wanted to bankrupt him. And instead, I do think we didn't even mention this yesterday on the show. And I, and, and I think some of you, sometimes, I think, Buck, because of our age, we don't notice things that other people who are older than us do. Trump stood up and spoke for nearly two hours at 80 years old in the front of that State of the Union and showed no ill effects at all. I do think it's worth constantly reminding people of the difference between Joe Biden and President Trump just from a physical and mental capacity. I was with my parents yesterday. They are both 81, about to be 82, and they were saying, hey, you know, you should, you should point out that President Trump is 80 years old and he's doing that, and just how remarkable it is for that context And I think for a lot of you that are in your 70s, or certainly for those of you who have been fortunate enough to reach your 80s, even people who are retired and in their 60s, they may understand the energy and, and, and, and, and requirements on that that frankly you and I might not. And I do think that's pretty extraordinary.
Buck Sexton
I recently had to do Clay a, a commercial of sorts because, you know, got a lot of, got a lot of hats, a lot of things going on. Speaking of hats, number four in the New York Times bestseller list. It's not really a hat.
Clay Travis
Congratulations.
Buck Sexton
There we go.
Clay Travis
Thank you everyone for. I want there to be an investigation into Jon Meacham ending up in front
Buck Sexton
of you on the absolute, absolute nonsense total.
Clay Travis
It's like Biden getting 81 million votes to meet you.
Buck Sexton
There's just no way. Because I know his Amazon ranking. So somehow, I mean I know that they push his book at every. I mean we crushed him on Amazon.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
Which is where about 80 to 80 something percent of books are sold on Amazon. He wasn't even top 10 on Amazon after the first couple of days. But he's number three in the New York Times bestseller list.
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Buck Sexton
Someone explained that to me. I know they built like shrines to him everywhere because he's a smug lib. They built shrines to him in these little bookstores with the purple haired nose rings, you know, left wing Kamala voters. But I don't think that's enough to make up for the deficit on. Unless they were doing bulk. But now there's all these games they play too. They go, oh well, there were bulk buys, by the way. I didn't have any major bulk buys because they put a little thing next to you, a little knife or something.
Clay Travis
Dagger death.
Buck Sexton
I didn't have bulk buys. I just had people like you. Thank you. Buying the book. And I still love. My favorite thing is the review that I'm getting from people where they're saying it's actually really good and there's real research in it, which is sort of like this is a little bit like when clay bench press 225 ten times. People are like, wow, Clay actually can bench press. It was a lot of surprises. Like why is that so surprising everybody?
Clay Travis
But it's a similar vibe. I think it is. To be, to be fair, I think a lot of people have come to recognize that most people who are famous and famous is being defined broadly here are famous enough to write a book. Like 90% of them do not write their books, right. Oh yeah. If you Go and look. And I think people are getting smart enough to recognize that. So not only did we write them, uh, we also recorded. You can get the audiobook of Manufacturing Delusion, which is entirely read by you as well.
Buck Sexton
Yes, indeed. Thank you. Oh, but going back to hats, other than the book, which is New York Times bestseller, Yay. Go get your copy. Manufacturing Delusion, it's actually a good book. That's. I should put that on the COVID It's actually a good book. You will enjoy it because of all the surprise people are having when they read it. And there's really cool history and you'll learn some interesting things. But I did an infomercial, basically like a commercial, you know, got to pay bills.
Clay Travis
Where's this going to air?
Buck Sexton
You don't need to worry.
Clay Travis
I just want to know, am I going to look up on television and just see you doing a commercial?
Buck Sexton
I mean, quite shamwow, but it was stuff, you know, I said, very nice product. Sometimes Buckster's got a hustle. The point is, I had to stand up for like over an hour. I had to change my shirt just from being standing in the lights and everything else, whatever, to so Trump being up there. Because I got, I got so wet. They were like, they were like, you're leaking. I mean, I was just like having a rough time there. So Trump standing up and doing the speech as long as he did, I have tremendous respect for that. Because standing and talking, believe it or not, is tiring. In fact, sitting and talking for three hours, I know you're all taking out your small violins, but it is kind of tiring.
Clay Travis
Two hours standing up there for an 80 year old. I do not think very many people could have done that. And we actually now are starting to see some of the results that are coming in. And let me make sure that I get that. I get the one that I wanted to have here. Cnn, as we told you, would likely be the case if you just watched and you said, hey, you know what, I want to objectively watch this and see what I think. It was the most patriotic pro America state of the Union that we have seen in a very, very long time. And Here was. Cut five. CNN admitting the President Trump surged 10 points during his address. Cut five.
Buck Sexton
Look at the growth President Trump made over the speech. So pre speech it was. 54% of speech watchers said his policies
Clay Travis
will move the US in the right direction.
Buck Sexton
After the speech, that number goes up 10 percentage points. So Donald Trump made some progress with people watching the speech from their pre speech expectations to what they saw in the speech itself. And that 64% number that's pretty much in range across all of his State of the Union addresses in his first term last year, the joint session that's about what we've seen is roughly two thirds have walked away from his speeches thinking he's going to move it in the right direction.
Clay Travis
Yeah, look, and I think that's a credit to Trump. Now, a lot of people who watch State of the Unions already agree with the president. You know, there's not as much hate watching necessarily, but for the persuadable middle out there, that was, I thought, a very significant result going on. By the way, if you're out there and you're thinking, okay, 2028 voting is underway, Buck, Tuesday is the Texas primary. We're going to have a lot of the Texas primary people on, but this will be, I think, the first real test. If you're listening to us in Texas, which I think is our number one state in the whole country in terms of audience. Yes, you got to get out and vote. These are big decisions that you're making, particularly on the Senate side.
Buck Sexton
I've got to tell you, I'm seeing some numbers that show you've been a little dismissive of our lady, Ms. Jasmine Crockett. She would love. She is within striking distance.
Clay Travis
Jasmine Crockett won the Democrat nomination.
Buck Sexton
She is not, it is not the Talarico campaign. It's not a joke, man. She's within five points, which is clearly a doable situation. This is what I'm hearing. This is what I'm being told, that she's, she's in striking. Now, how many of our listeners at the Farm, what do you think, Buck?
Clay Travis
How many of our listeners do you think in fact, I'll open up the phone lines. We will give you immunity. Are die hard Republicans and they're voting for Jasmine Crockett in the Texas primary.
Buck Sexton
You mean Russia's Operation Chaos continues on?
Clay Travis
Is, is Operation Chaos underway right now in Texas where a lot of people look very competitive. Three great candidates, I would say, on the Republican side, Jasmine Crockett. I think this one is interesting. We'll open it up. Phone lines. You can also talk back. Are you voting for Jasmine Crockett as a Republican to help her be the nominee?
Buck Sexton
Just curious.
Clay Travis
If it's going to be tight. That would be fascinating.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Joining us now, the Chairman of the fcc, Brendan Carr came on last week I believe to talk about the late night TV battle And the fact I think you saw that we'll start there because the primary is Tuesday. It feels to me like that was a clear attempt to help James Talarico in the battle against Jasmine Crockett and that the media was not smart enough to see what was going on in the way that that played out. And I think it's become even clearer since because Tal raised $2.4 million and and the YouTube video got watched way more than if he had just been a guest. Nobody would have cared. Nobody would have noticed. And unless I'm wrong, Jasmine Crockett still hasn't gotten an invite yet to appear on the Colbert Show.
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Yeah, look, I think you, you nailed it. Great to be with you again. This was a really interesting story where one Democrat candidate tried to create a hoax to get clicks and views and money over another Democrat candidate in the primary. And so much of the traditional legacy media just played right into it. They're more than happy to do it. What's interesting though is there's now reporting that a number of TV stations in Texas, not the CBS ones, but actually Disney affiliated ones, have filed equal time notices with the FCC saying that because of Talarico's appearance on the View, which happened a couple weeks ago, they're offering the opportunity for any other legally qualified candidate, including the Crockett campaign, to reach out and get comparable time and placement. So we'll see if that happens. But that's an interesting development that you've got Texas TV station saying or appearing to say that yeah, the View is not bonafide news programming.
Clay Travis
Well, and I want to build on that for a sec because I know you're going to talk about a new story that we're super fascinated about here too. But the idea we've got a super competitive Texas primary. We started talking about that on Tuesday and we will soon have a nominee on the Republican side, Democrat side as these primaries play out. Would it be your suggestion contention under equal time based on the way we have seen these late night shows rig super left wing guests without offering an opportunity for the other side that post primary the equal time doctrine could be in play for if you're going to have on a Senate candidate, let's say from Texas who's the Democrat nominee. To me it's even more incumbent then that you should offer equal time to the Republican candidate. Because I think what we'll see is some of these shows, Colbert and Kimmel certainly where they have a lot of these guys on for the midterms on the Democrat side and don't give any opportunities at all to Republicans.
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
I think that's exactly what we could see happen here. So remember, Congress passed this law. It wasn't me, it was Congress itself. And Congress was worried. They did not want media gatekeepers to be able to put their thumb on the scale for one candidate or one political party. What they wanted was for individual voters to be able to make their own mind up. And so if you're not a bona fide news program and you have a legally qualified candidate on, then you have to offer comparable time and placement to all others. And that empowers individuals. It's not a censorship provision. It doesn't stop you from having anybody on. And in fact, you don't even have to have the other legally qualified candidate on. If Colbert has an issue with Jasmine Crockett, he doesn't have to interview her, but the TV stations do have to give her and other legally qualified candidates equal time. So the FCC's been clear, we're going to start insisting on this. And there's programs out there like the View, like the Late show, that simply have not made the case to the FCC at this point that they qualify as a bona fide news program. And again, the key there is, under the FCC's own test, are you motivated by partisan political motivations or are you really more of a straight news program that asks legitimate, hard hitting questions?
Buck Sexton
Commissioner, it's Buck. Thanks for being here with us. I have a question that certainly falls under your area, but it's a little bit of a different direction. It has to do with spectrum policy and expansion of, of the spectrum out there. I mean, essentially with things like satellite to device connectivity. You know, Elon's got all these SpaceX satellites up there now and people are able to get their Internet, you know, directly from satellites. This is increasingly common, even something that we talk about in my little community here in Florida. As an option, what role does the FCC play in streamlining, assisting, making sure that as these technologies become more available, basically free, not free, but, you know, super fast, super reliable Internet, everywhere, anywhere, anytime is a reality, because I feel like we're getting closer to that technologically. The regulations obviously need to be kept up to that.
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
This is one area in particular where I'm really excited about what President Trump is accomplishing. You may recall back during the Biden years, Congress passed this $42 billion to connect millions of Americans to the Internet and not a single shovel's worth of dirt was turned, not a single home was connected. President Trump has come in and fundamentally transformed that program where we're going to start to see shovels in the ground very quickly here. At the same time, as you noted, Trump has been clear that we're going to get the airwaves out there to power this new generation of low earth orbit satellites. Starlink has this. Amazon's coming online with theirs. And so we are heading in a great direction right now in terms of more spectrum, increased connectivity, real competition. It's a good time to be a consumer. Prices right now are already down significantly year over year because we're getting more spectrum out there and more competition.
Clay Travis
Okay, let's go into something that's got me super fired up. Whatever you think about me, I'm in the 99th percentile for sports viewing. I watch sports all the time. I know you're a big sports fan, too, and it's not moving in a good direction. Put simply, everybody out there who's listening to us right now, in 2010, it was easier, it feels like, to watch your favorite team than it is in 2026. And the cost to do so has been skyrocketing. The number of streaming services, channels, everything else out there continues to grow. The consumer is paying more and getting less. That seems like a bad combination. What are you trying to do now as it pertains to sports rights and looking into this increased cost and not increased ability to consume product?
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Well, for decades, Americans love to sit down, turn on the TV and just quickly find the game they wanted to watch. And in recent years, it's gotten a lot more complicated. People have to sign up for bespoke streaming services. They can't find the game they want to watch. They're having to sign up for trials of one platform just to get a playoff game. And they got to remember to cancel it down the road. And to your point, a lot of them are paying more out of pocket. And that's a problem. It's a real frustration. There's a role for the FCC here too, though, because as sports are broadcast over the air on tv, that helps drive advertiser to local broadcasters and that's what ends up funding local news and local reporting. So we're exploring this relationship between sports and broadcast because a lot of people don't know this, but many years ago, Congress passed a law, the Sports Broadcasting act, that created antitrust exemptions for the sports leagues. And that law was passed when all of the games, if you weren't there in person, were broadcast for free over the year. And so as more and more games start to go behind Paywalls, it starts to tug some of the underpinnings of that Sports Broadcasting Act. I think people are right to start to ask questions of do we have the right regulatory framework right now?
Clay Travis
Okay, this is very specific and I don't know how much attention you're paying to this, but 2029, the NFL can opt out of his existing contracts. NFL is the biggest sports league in America. Clearly, in terms of audience. Right now, the games air over the air, free in quotation marks, but on cbs, NBC and Fox. Right. So for a lot of people out there, they watch their favorite local team on cbs, NBC and Fox. There is some talk that the NFL may decide to leave cbs, NBC and Fox. Do you believe the FCC has an interest in the NFL airing on cbs, NBC and Fox? Would the NFL if they just pulled out and said we're no longer going to air on those networks? I don't know. To your point that broadcast television even can exist as a viable business given how much money they make in an audience they grow off of the NFL, are you paying attention to that? Is there a role given those games on cbs, NBC and Fox?
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Yeah, this is one of the most significant features of broadcast TV right now. So much that local news and local reporting works and there's funding for it. Because that great relationship between broadcasters in the NFL, as that contract comes due, if too many of those games start to go behind the paywall, it's a problem on many fronts. I think it's a problem for local news and for broadcasters. I think it's a problem for consumers who will, I think, continue to be frustrated with an inability to find the games. And again, it starts to undermine some of the reasons why we have that sports Broadcasting act. Now, look, there's some good reasons that come from this as well. There are more games that are available now. So there is some upside, but there's a real consumer frustration. So I hope that the NFL ultimately finds the right balance where we still get these free over the air games. That helps grow the game. It brings additional audience to it. I just don't think it's a great thing if we see a critical mass start to go behind all sorts of different paywalls.
Clay Travis
Yeah, because I mean, as a sports fan, if suddenly cbs, NBC and Fox don't have games, then you're demanding effectively that everybody go subscribe and it's not better for the consumer. I wouldn't think so that there's a role in theory because of where those games are for the FCC and you're working through on that angle.
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. We're working at all. I mean, the very first sports game ever to be broadcast went back, I think, to the 1939 World's Fair in New York. It was a college baseball, a barn burner that was won 2 to 1 in 10 innings. And Americans have just had so much fun over the years, sitting down, grabbing a drink, bowl of chips, watching the game. It's just become a frustrating experience. There's so much in our lives right now that's frustrating that drives Americans apart. I do want to see us continue to have games on the air where lots of different Americans are being brought together. I think it's been a great beneficial relationship for sports leagues, for broadcasters, but really for the American people.
Clay Travis
No doubt. We appreciate the time. FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr, if people are interested in this, what should they do to let you know their perspective?
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
The public notice it would just put up on the FCC's website, fcc.gov I posted it out on X and people can file their comments in that proceeding. And we're going to take a look at it.
Clay Travis
Awesome. We appreciate the time, sir. Keep up the good work. We'll talk to you again soon.
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
Thanks much. Appreciate it.
Clay Travis
That's FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr. Super interesting story there among many others. When we come back, we'll dive in a little bit into this who's going to buy Warner Brothers discussion as well as Hillary Clinton testifying. And coming up in the next hour, we got some fun with some hockey reactions. Even in New Jersey, they're fired up with how crazy people have gotten in sports media.
Buck Sexton
Buck, I've also got a little update on the kerfuffle around the Hillary testimony from from a Mr. Benny Johnson himself. He's saying he's crying foul over their cries of foul.
Clay Travis
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Welcome back into clay and box. Dr. Marty McCary is with us now. He is the commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration. Dr. Makary, thanks for being here.
Dr. Marty Makary
Good to be with you guys.
Buck Sexton
So we have so many questions to throw your way, and one of them that I wanted to ask you about actually has to do with the status of getting things expedited on the approval side of of the equation here. What are the last time we talked to you, this was something that was a focus of yours and even using AI to move faster on this. What can you tell us about now that we're a year in? Tell us about the FDA approval pipeline being more efficient, moving faster, not delaying. I mean, I'm here in Florida and people are already talking all the time about Retta true Tide doc, which is the G, you know, the next generation of glp. This is all the rage down here. People are already talking. And I go, hold on, it's not even FDA approved yet. And a lot of people go, yeah, well, the FDA is slow. And I go, whoa, hold on a second. What's happening here? Is it going fast? Is it going faster? What's happening?
Dr. Marty Makary
Well, look, the FDA was slow. We have a very clear mission, more cures and meaningful treatments for the American people. And so we're doing things differently. We are cutting idle time. We're reducing red tape. And we have an announcement today of a new drug that was approved in 44 days. That's unheard of. Typically it takes a year or so. And so we're doing things at operation warp speed, like speed. We need to treat every potential cure and powerful treatment for somebody who's suffering with that same level of urgency. So we're getting it done right now. We have the fastest approval times in US Government history, and we're going to be moving even faster without cutting any corners on quality or safety.
Clay Travis
I know you have a editorial that was up at the Wall Street Journal about how you're trying to move quickly and in particular with rare diseases and this jumped out at me. Rare. I mean, we know certain diseases that impact tons of people. But this data, roughly 1 in 11 people are impacted by quote, unquote rare diseases, comes to about 30 million Americans. More common than asthma and type 1 diabetes combined, is what you write. Sometimes those markets are challenging because it's harder for drug companies to make substantial sums of money when they don't have a huge audience necessarily to, to, to treat. What is the impact of the moves you've made there?
Dr. Marty Makary
Well, you're exactly right. When you add up the number of people with a rare disease, it's like 1 in 11Americans. It's not actually rare. Now, the system was set up for common diseases at the fda, but we're unleashing an entire sector of investment and research by creating incentives to work on rare diseases. Now, some incentives existed, but we were able to get the priority review voucher program, which creates market incentives, extends market exclusivity, expedites reviews, provides tax credits for clinical trials. Signed by President Trump three weeks ago. But we're not stopping there. We have a new pathway called the plausible mechanism pathway, where if the mechanism of the drug sounds plausible and it's an ultra rare disease, you don't need to do a randomized trial. Just doesn't make sense. And we also announced regulatory flexibilities. We want to see companies thrive. If you're working on a rare disease, we want to see you succeed.
Buck Sexton
And what can you tell me, doc, about. I was talking about GLP1s before, which obviously is a huge new drug class which has been approved with Ozempic and Wegovy and all these things. Something like 1 in 10Americans, I think, have already tried these. There's all these other peptides that are all over the place. And some people think that this is an important part of the future of medicine. Now, I know that some of these are not FDA approved, but this is still in broad usage. And people talk about this stuff all the time, things like BPC 157 for recovery. You'll see people talking about this online. Is the FDA going to look at these peptides, run studies on them? I'm just wondering where that stands because it seems like there's this big gray area right now of things that are certainly not banned, but are not approved, but are becoming in common usage because of the FDA's. The perception is the FDA slowness to see what's already happening.
Dr. Marty Makary
Yeah. So first of all, people ask me what do I think of peptides? And I point out that the Term peptides is a big tent. It's like saying, what do you think about molecules? And there are some that are effective, some that are not effective, some that are unknown, and many that are safe. So we'd like to see the data, we'd like to see research go into a proper placebo controlled trial so that people who are describing a benefit can have that benefit sort of codified in the medical literature and other people can benefit from it. But we have not taken any restrictive actions on peptides unless they are direct copycats of drugs that other companies have put through the formal FDA process. And you gave the example of retatrutide, which is a new weight loss drug. There are copycat drugs out there While the phase 3 clinical trial is still going on. And so we are going to take action. When it is a sort of a knockoff of a drug that companies have put through the process properly, we get
Buck Sexton
a lot of questions. Sorry, we've got a lot of. I was going to ask about food supply stuff now because that's obviously been a huge focus of RFK Jr. One of your colleagues here in the MAHA movement, trying to get improvements to, well, what's in the food supply. What the guidance is about this. How is the FDA playing into that these days?
Dr. Marty Makary
Well, look, we have never been taught, we have never talked in the medical establishment about the root causes of our chronic disease epidemic. Instead, we just blame patients for being sick. But it's not a willpower problem. We have to look at school lunch programs and the microbiome and we rewrote the food pyramid because the open secret was that old food pyramid was corrupt. We're talking about the importance of protein that you get from foods like steak and other meats, poultry, fish, nuts. You don't need to tiptoe around natural, healthy fats in your diet. So we're telling people the truth. And it's going to inform all of the government purchasing that is done through SNAP and other programs. In the Trump administration, for the first time, we have SNAP waivers. Now. We taxpayer dollars don't have to go to sugary drinks and ultra processed junk food.
Clay Travis
We're talking to FDA Commissioner chair Marty Makary. One of the things we get asked about a lot. Buck's got a young son, I've got three kids. But this is a common topic among parents. Why does so many kids today have allergies? And what, what is causing that? I know you've kind of started to look into this. What should parents know?
Dr. Marty Makary
Well, there are some things every parent should Know, but it is amazing, Clay, that when we were growing up, I don't remember a single parent person with a peanut or food allergy. And there was one person I met when I was young who had a food allergy, but it was mild. Look at where we are today. What happened? One in 10 kids now has a peanut or food allergy. Well, part of it may be something that's unknown, that is changes to the microbiome. But the modern day peanut and food allergy epidemic may have been ignited by bad advice from the medical establishment. About 25 years ago, the American Academy of Pediatrics told folks and disseminated across the country that kids should avoid peanut butter until they turned three. They thought that would reduce the risk of peanut allergies in the future, but they got it perfectly backwards. You reduce your risk of a peanut allergy later in life through early introduction, as soon as a kid can eat at five, six, seven months of age. Early introduction and a sustained introduction of a little bit of peanut butter, a little bit of milk and eggs and other allergens. It's called immune tolerance. And every parent needs to know best practices on this, which is why we put together an FDA roundtable yesterday that parents can watch on this topic.
Buck Sexton
Is there any reform that is underway to try to make it so that things can. I mean, I was talking about moving more quickly in this process, but just getting information out to people about what the FDA is looking at. I mean, obviously you're on this show and you're the commissioner and a lot of people listen to the show, but I think that I get questions a lot. Dr. McCary, I'll just put it this way. You know, when's the FDA going to do this? In the next six months? Are they looking at that? Are they still moving on this? How do, how do people best find this stuff? Or things like immunizations, for example? I have so many listeners who want to know, are they looking into this? Are they going to have more recommendations about the immunization schedule, things along those lines? How are you getting the information out there?
Dr. Marty Makary
Well, great question. I've been in office about 10 months and we've announced 45 major reforms. We've had numerous roundtables where we're telling people the truth, like telling women the truth about hormone replacement therapy and the profound short and long term benefits. And there's actually a poll on the supply chain right now of hormone therapy. Since we've removed those scary black box warnings. We're doing it with testosterone. So many topics we're putting out there on our social media channels. People need to know the truth. And when it comes to peanut and food allergies, I want every parent to know that you can Significantly, by over 80%, reduce the risk of your kid developing one of these allergies through early and sustained introduction. We got a little boy at home, he's about eight months old. We started introducing a little bit of peanut powder, a little bit of peanut butter, a little bit of milk, a little bit of eggs, early, as early as five months. And that is critical in reducing the risk of allergies amidst this modern day epidemic.
Clay Travis
What do you think? I know we've had you on a lot over the years surrounding Covid and I know it's been six years now and you were in the midst of all the COVID fight and everything else, but it feels like to me everybody just wants to pretend the whole Covid shot era never happened, that there weren't all these demands that you didn't have to carry around your papers. What is the and Covid this winter seems to, I think the flu. You would know better than me. I think the flu has been more prevalent this winter and it's actually been a pretty nasty flu. Then Covid. Even you would know better than me as head of the the fda. Where are we now with COVID and the COVID shots and the interplay with the flu here in winter?
Dr. Marty Makary
Well, you're right. Influenza was much more common this past, this current season than Covid and the flu shot didn't work very well. It wasn't really a match for what was circulating out there. You know, Clay, I look back and what a disaster the public health response was to Covid shutting kids out of school for nearly two years. Cloth masks on toddlers for three years. Covid boosters in perpetuity. I mean, they literally had a program here at the FDA to approve Covid boosters every year in perpetuity for young, healthy kids without any clinical trial data. We said we're getting back to gold standard science and we are keeping to Bobby Kennedy's promise. We're not going to take anyone's vaccines away. But you're seeing a significant renaissance now where people are recognizing where the risks are, really are, what the core essential vaccines really are. And by and large, young, healthy people are not taking that Covid booster every year.
Buck Sexton
What else is top? I mean, we've covered a lot here. I know, Dr. McGary, whenever you come on our show, it's like the rapid fire because we just have a lot of Questions. And. And obviously, we know you from when during COVID you were a voice of sanity amidst so much craziness. And so we have tremendous respect for what you did then and what you're trying to do now. But is there anything, just quite honestly, is there anything else that all the folks listening, a lot of parents, grandparents that you're working on, that's a core goal of the fda as long as you're in charge that they should know about?
Dr. Marty Makary
Well, thanks for asking, Buck. Look, I want to be very clear with everybody. We want to see a cure for type 1 diabetes in the current Trump administration. We want to see a powerful treatment for stage four cancer for certain GI cancers. There's a priority voucher that's been issued to an amazing treatment that melts cancer away in the GI tract for the 5 to 10% of people with a certain mutation. We want to see a powerful treatment for. For ptsd. Many of our soldiers are still dying even though the wars are over. Our men and women are still dying. The battle is still raging in their minds. We owe it to them to have a powerful treatment. We're going to see what those clinical trials show, and we'd like to see a universal flu shot so you don't have to guess every year what the strain is going to be and sometimes get it wrong like we did this year. You can get one shot for life. That gives you broad protection without the annual flu roundup.
Buck Sexton
How do we get Clay to be able to bench 315? Dr. Makary, is there anything in the pipeline that can help clay get to 315?
Dr. Marty Makary
Gosh, we could. We could check his testosterone level, but I can't imagine he's low on it. But if he were there, we go have some ideas.
Buck Sexton
No, Clay. Clay is nodding in agreement. He's got no worries there. But 315 is pretty heavy. Our.
Clay Travis
Our secretary did it. I mean, that's pretty impressive.
Buck Sexton
That's a big.
Clay Travis
That's a big number.
Buck Sexton
Well, Dr. Makary, really appreciate you being with us.
Dr. Marty Makary
When I go to the gym.
Buck Sexton
Go ahead.
Dr. Marty Makary
When I go to the gym, it's more like a rehab than it is a workout. Compared to what? Bucks?
Buck Sexton
Yeah, I'm really. I'm more of. I'm turning into more of a stretching guy these days, Dr. McCary, than a bench guy. You know, that's really trying to keep my back clear. So. Yeah, Doctor, appreciate you.
Clay Travis
As always.
Buck Sexton
Anytime. Anything, priority that we can help get the word out about what you're doing. And Maha and FDA and Everything else, please just let us know. Good to talk to you.
Dr. Marty Makary
All right, love you guys. Thanks a lot.
Clay Travis
That is Marty McCary doing great work. And I really am never gonna forget how many, few, how few the numbers were buck of people that were in the trenches six years ago during COVID pointing out how crazy this is. And I still. I mean, I know it's been six years. Every time I fly, the number of people still wearing masks is. It's staggering to me.
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Well, look at you, you random sports bro. I was doing a political show. You're doing a sports show. And producer Mark, who's actually like a normal American who loves sports, was like, you got to find this sports guy named Clay. And I was like, who? And he's like, clay. He's really good on masks. Clay. There were so few people who were good on masks that I had to go to the sports guy who knew that masks didn't work.
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I mean, happily ever after. Yeah. But six years later, there's still a lot of people walking around in masks. And it's like people forget about everything that we went through. And I'm still pretty radicalized, I think, over this. I'm not over it. But you can get hooked up right now. From prize picks. If you love sports like I do. You love basketball, you love baseball. Coming up, we've already got spring training underway. NHL hockey. Whatever your sport is, you can find it on prize picks. And you can play in all 50 states right now, from California to Florida to New York, York to Minnesota. All points in between, you can get hooked up right now. Prizepix.com Code Clay when you play $5, you get $50 deposited in your account. It's awesome. You'll love it. If you haven't already, go sign up today. Pricepix.com Code Clay that's prizepix.com Code C L-A-Y want to be in the know when you're on the go? The Team 47 podcasts drop highlights from
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Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show some news for you. Something that went mega viral and we talked about on the program. Police officers being pelted by by bystanders during this big snowstorm in New York City. They shared photos of the individuals that they were seeking to arrest this morning. According to the nypd, they arrested a man named Guzman Koulibali. That's my best guess, 27 years old. So they tried to say, oh, these were just kids, 27 year old for assaulting officers. He was one of the guys who had one of the big, it wasn't even a snowball. It was like an ice boulder almost. And we said on the program, hey, or I said, I would bet a ton of money that whoever these guys were that they had criminal charges.
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Yeah. So the guy was arrested and what do you think? He had, of course, a previous arrest record. Less than three weeks ago, he was arrested for attempted robbery on the transit system. Again, if you are the kind of person to see a police officer and think I want to pelt these officers with snowballs and continue to do so, then you are the kind of person who likely has engaged in criminal behavior in the past. But again, NYPD has officially arrested this guy. Now. We'll see how soon mom Donnie lets him out and whether there is any, any actual process here. But again, 27, they tried to say we played this cut, but Mayor Mamdani said, oh, these are just little kids in a snowball fight. 27 year old who had been arrested for armed robbery probably shouldn't have been out on the street anyway. Um, and he has now been arrested. So I hope mom Donnie will speak out and say, you know, I didn't handle this as well as I could have, but I doubt that he will. There are reports, however, that mom Donnie is meeting with President Trump in the Oval Office today. So there is a possibility that he could be asked about this arrest because I would imagine, Buck, that the president and Mamdani might have another one of those joint press conferences, reports that the two of them are going to work on trying to build more housing in New York City, which would theoretically bring down the overall cost of rent and, and other aspects associated with residential cost there. So that news is out there as we get ready to go into the third hour here.
Buck Sexton
Look, bringing down the cost of building residential units because that's really, you're not really talking so much about single family home in New York. You're going to be talking about apartment complexes. Bringing down that cost would be a remarkably wise thing to do. The cost, Clay, in specifically New York state, or I should say New York City and then across the whole state of California, the additional costs of building places to live that have nothing to do with lumber contract work, like just the environmental crap, the regulatory nonsense, the tax burden, all this. It is astronomical.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
Astronomical. And what people say is they go, oh, well, the rents are so high. It's a market. The rents are high because there's supply and demand and people want to live in these places.
Clay Travis
Yeah. And they have such zoning restrictions that they will not allow additional housing to be created.
Buck Sexton
Artificial scarcity and demand.
Clay Travis
That's why demand, it's just supply, demand. I mean, we're not reinventing the wheel here. And remember when they criticized J.D. vance when he said, hey, you know, if we had fewer illegal immigrants, it would mean costs would come down for overall rent. Guess what? Cost in many different places are starting to come down. When we come back, New Jersey stood up and said, stop picking on the US Men's hockey team gold medalist. We've got some fun reaction to that. Also, can we get the audio pulled of Kamala Harris saying she might be running? Does Buck want to go ahead and relent and admit that yet again, I have won another stake? We will discuss third hour. Rolling in next.
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton navigate the biggest headlines in news, politics, and current events, blending sharp analysis with wit. This episode dives into heated political battles, media bias, regulatory policy, sports broadcasting controversies, and major public health reforms.
Hillary Clinton Testifies on Epstein:
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Media Bias and Equal Time (23:02–27:08):
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Drug and Device Approval Reforms (36:24–39:01):
Peptides, Weight Loss Drugs, and Public Safety (40:01–41:57):
Food Allergy Epidemic & School Lunches (43:10–44:54):
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Buck Sexton (on targeting Trump and his associates):
“It was completely normalized among Democrats to weaponize the justice system and try to lock Trump up. It wasn’t just, ‘Oh, we’re going to illicitly remove him from the ballot.’ They tried to take him off the ballot in Colorado... and they actually wanted to put this guy in a prison cell.” (06:25–09:04)
Clay Travis (on Trump’s stamina):
“Trump stood up and spoke for nearly two hours at 80 years old and showed no ill effects at all. I do think it’s worth constantly reminding people of the difference between Joe Biden and President Trump just from a physical and mental capacity.” (10:26)
FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr (on sports and over-the-air access):
“If too many of those games start to go behind the paywall, it’s a problem on many fronts. I think it’s a problem for local news and for broadcasters. I think it’s a problem for consumers...” (32:14)
FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary (on allergies):
“The modern day peanut and food allergy epidemic may have been ignited by bad advice from the medical establishment... You reduce your risk... through early introduction.” (43:34)
This episode is packed with high-level political analysis, regulatory insights, and lively debate on everything from media bias and courtroom strategy to FDA reform and sports broadcasting. In classic Clay and Buck style, the hosts blend deep dives with humor, frequent jabs at their political rivals, and interactive listener commentary.
Best for listeners seeking sharp conservative commentary, insider policy insights, and real-time reactions to America’s most pressing headlines.