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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Thursday Edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show we appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Tom Holman started off the day bright and Early, 8am Eastern 7am in Minneapolis. I love it. As a guy who used to get up early for radio, I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt, Buck, when I was on live at 5am Central every day for five years, nobody in media elsewhere was awake. I have been on radio row for 5am starts when I was the only guy there. Media hates getting up early in the morning. So I actually love Tom Holman starting off the day and setting the agenda for the entire day with what I thought was an incredibly fantastic performance at his press conference and we're going to get into that. President Trump right now is having a live Cabinet meeting. It has been going for about 20 minutes. Judging by how these Cabinet meetings have gone in the past, he may be talking for a couple of hours. The most transparent and open administration that we have ever seen, answering questions on every object under the sun. We will discuss that when we as we are continuing to move through the program. But Buck, I would say major blockbuster revelations on Alex Preddy, the hero nurse who was alleged to have been completely killed with no idea he was just a quiet standby protester. And this video that came out was it is echoed across the entire Internet Such that I think it's hard for reasonable people who are not in complete left wing silos to not say, my goodness, this guy. Again, I encourage you. If you haven't seen the video, I understand a lot of you may not be active on social media. Buck, about 10 days before the shooting, this pretty character was out on the street screaming. I don't even think we can play the video because there's so many curse words in it. At ICE agents to basically fight him with a lot of expletives included. He then spits on them and he kicks out the taillight of the vehicle that they are in. The ICE agents get out of the vehicle, they tackle him. And this to me is a good example of toxic empathy because 1 billion percent the guy should have been arrested for attacking the vehicle for assault on ICE officials for his behavior. This was not a mentally stable individual and anybody who watches this is going to have a hard time believing. And I want to play this. Anna Navarro cut 17 on CNN. This whole narrative, much like the mom who just dropped her kids off story, it's completely gone up in smoke. But here was Anna Navarro saying, this is the perfect guy, the guy you want to date your daughter, the man you want your son to be. This is embarrassing for her. In the wake of this latest video, cut 17, they killed the wrong guy, right?
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Buck Sexton
Because this is like, this is like the perfect guy. Alex Pardy is the guy you would want to date your daughter, the one. The guy you want your son to grow up to be a decent human being who was serving humanity, serving sick veterans who is, you know, there is nothing that has been said about that man that isn't wonderful. And so they can't malign him. They can't malign him because we have the videos.
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Clay Travis
All right, Buck, this video came out. I know you've been reacting to it. I've been reacting to it. My hope is my mother in law staying with us because her power still out. She said nobody who needs to see this video is going to see it. So there may be wisdom from, from my mother in law there. But what were your thoughts when you saw this video of hero nurse Alex Preddy?
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Buck Sexton
Well, first off, on, on the CNN side of this, if you think that she's going to be embarrassed by the truth, you don't understand the nature of cnn. As I put on X. This is her job. Her job is to lie, to make the audience believe whatever they want to believe. So she did her job. There's no shame in lying at CNN as long as they're pleasant lies that libs wish to hear. That is the gig. And as for watching this video, it's interesting, Clay, because we were trying to be, as we always try to be, very fair and adhere to the facts as they came out about all of this. And yet yesterday, several times, I used the word to describe this guy, that he was a loon, a lunatic. And that was quite obvious even from just the initial exchange. Now, while you have Ana Navarro and CNN saying this guy was basically some kind of saint, and you have MSNBC pretending that he's much more handsome than he was, which, by the way, shouldn't matter at all. But it matters to that audience because they're creating a narrative and they're making a fable. This is a myth. This is myth making they are engaged in. But then you turn on this program and we're saying, well, the guy's clearly a lunatic. And then video comes out showing, yeah, he's clearly a lunatic. But we were saying that before the video came out, because we actually do analysis here and use deductive reasoning and think things through and care about being right and be honest with you all the time. So it's just interesting to see how quickly this thing caved yet again. There are people especially, you know, I would say Monday, Clay, there are a lot of conservatives, maybe put that in quotes, but a lot of people on the right put that in quotes. Oh, I think we need to, like, really reassess everything. No, we do not need to reassess deporting millions of illegals who don't have a right to be in the country. And we certainly don't need to reassess prioritizing the deportation of. Of true public safety threats, scary violent criminals, in many cases rapists, murderers, etcetera, who are in the country illegally and already have deportation orders and who Democrats are harboring and sheltering and obstructing law enforcement efforts to deport. You know, this is. Some people fell for this. And I sit here and I go, you know, these are like. It's the same routine from the lib media over and over again. No, now you finally. You finally have to agree with us because of how horrible this. No, no, sorry, that's not gonna work this time. Didn't work last time or the time before that. Not on this show. But I think it just goes to show you, man, they will do anything, Clay. They will lie, they will cheat, they will steal, they will use AI to give someone a square jaw and a winning smile, whatever they have to do to get the easily fooled, the low IQ and the cowardly to go along with the abandonment of this central effort of the Trump administration. So I just, I feel very good about the analysis we did here on this, by the way. I still think he's probably going to get a huge judgment from the city because now you're going to get into. Well, that doesn't change the. Ok, but we all know what really went on here, right? You know, we all know that this guy was quite, quite, truly, literally asking for it in that video. Yeah, assault me. You, you know, MF and this and cursing and everything.
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Clay Travis
Can we pull that for the team and edit the. But I do think the vile nature of his interactions with ice. This audience should hear what he was screaming on that video. Again, we've got FCC restrictions, so we'll edit out the curse words. But yes, look, and do you agree with me, by the way, that if that guy, if he had been arrested, if he had been arrested on that day, I think there's a decent chance he might well still be alive because one of the things that unfortunately happens when you allow violent crazy behavior to continue, you incentivize more violent crazy behavior. And look, this is why I said people got mad at me. Some people were like, oh, my God, how. This is why I said Tim Walls and Jacob Fry have blood on their hands. Because this guy thinks he's a hero and he is taking direction from them. And so the family, by the way, for anybody out there who is questioning, is this video real? Because it is a reality, sadly, that we're going to be in now, where every video that comes out, people are going to say it's AI if it has a story that may have evidence that they don't like. The family has acknowledged it's him. There is zero dispute that he attacked ICE agents in the time leading up Buck. I bet there's a bunch of other videos of him engaging in behavior just like this. He wanted to have a confrontation with ice. It's why he had the gun. It's why he behaved the way that he did. And, you know, frankly, I just, it's, it's a reality of where we are, that he engaged in behavior that was intended to provoke confrontation. And unfortunately for him, he got a confrontation that ended up being fatal. But this was not some accidental incident or some completely innocent bystander who found himself dragged into a violent encounter. He'd been seeking this for weeks.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I mean, this is the, the reality of, of the situation unfolded unfolding before us. Clay is they tried to convince everyone. This guy, as we heard that one preposterous clip on cnn. But her job, that woman, she's one of the dumbest commentators on tv and her job is to say stuff like that. So like I said, she's not embarrassed. Wouldn't change, wouldn't change a word of it. Now, it doesn't matter. This guy was supposed to be, oh, it could have been your dad. It could have been your brother or your friend or your coworker, your next door neighbor. He's just. This guy's as American as apple pieces. No, he's actually a lunatic who runs at cops and spits in their faces and kicks their cars because he doesn't want the enforcement of completely legitimate laws passed by the United States Congress, enforced by people like Barack Obama, I might add, among other Democrats. We might get to some of those old Obama clips coming up. He's like, look, I know people want to be here, but you got to go, you know, so we're seeing that once again, the martyrs of the left are maniacs. And their heroes are actually often criminals, frauds, maniacs themselves. So this is something that I, I think is a, is a reminder for anybody who started to, to fall for this. Look, it doesn't mean that the shooting wasn't possibly a, an overreaction by ICE under the situation. We got to have a full investigation, we got to see all the body camera footage. But this guy was truly asking for exactly what we saw, which is multiple violent encounters with Immigration Customs Enforcement. If you play this game with cops and you get shot, you ask for the dangerous situation to happen. And that is what that is, unfortunately, how this tragedy came to an end.
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Clay Travis
And for anybody out there to build on Buck who said, oh, my goodness, we've got to consider, oh, we've got to pull out of Minneapolis. Oh, my goodness, this is unacceptable. This is, I think, a strong evidence yet again, to wait and see. Most of these people are engaging in violent behavior and trying to incite this kind of outcome, sadly, and Democrats bragged about wanting it in July. The other thing I would say about this Buck as we get ready to go to break here, is I do think this could be substantial evidence of his behavior. Now, it doesn't justify the shooting, but if they find more and more videos of him engaging in behavior and there is some sort of knowledge about this guy, which maybe there was, it wouldn't be crazy to say, hey, this guy kicked our tail lights out. These guys talk. I believe that was ice. Border Patrol was involved in the shooting There are a bunch of different agencies involved here, but this is yet again evidence that these are not heroes. These are to a large part mentally unstable wackadoodles who are trying to create violent situations for our federal law enforcement.
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Buck Sexton
And there are people, and this is, I think this is important, Clay. There are people who are making, you know, 2, 300 grand to sit around and write garbage at the Washington Post. And people making millions of dollars sitting in CNN studios and Ms. Now and ABC News in these places who know that they are preying on the deranged and know that they are going to get people like this guy so riled up that they do stupid and dangerous things and they don't care. Because if it's in any way allowing them to play out their emotional combat with Donald Trump, they're totally accepting of whatever casualties in that battle are necessary. That's the real truth. The really, the sick part of this all is that they encourage Preddy to do what he did. He died. They're using him. And they don't actually care about the next Preddy at all because if they did, they would stop saying that these are Nazis or even worse than Nazis in Minneapolis. They don't care.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Totally using these people. Totally using Jimmy Kimmel tears. Natalie Portman, by the way, among the most overrated in every respect on the planet. Natalie Portman. My list of the most overrated. I'm not trying to get into a whole digression. Natalie Portman. Absolutely.
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Clay Travis
Oh, I can't co sign there. I think she's actually a talented actress.
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Buck Sexton
No.
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Clay Travis
Did you see the Black Swan? She was very good in the Black Swan. That's an awful garbage, scary movie. Garbage.
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Buck Sexton
Not. She's not. Look, she's not that pretty because we're always told. And I don't even say that's mean. She's a famous like actress worth $100 million. We're always told she's the most beautiful.
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Clay Travis
Woman in the world.
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Buck Sexton
She's okay.
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Clay Travis
She's okay. Natalie Portman. I did not think you were just gonna take a two by four to Natalie Portman today.
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Buck Sexton
Just not that, just not that good. Not that cute. Not that good.
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Clay Travis
She's pretty good.
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Buck Sexton
Lame. In the Star wars movies, a lot of, you know, kind of, kind of looks like a 14 year old boy a lot of the time. I'm just saying I'm not a fan. Not a fan.
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Clay Travis
Where were we?
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Buck Sexton
We're.
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Clay Travis
You got to read. I mean Natalie, Natalie Portman was a secret fan and she's just driving to her Set. Oh, definitely not right now. Definitely not. She's quite. She's under the radar. She loves Clay and Buck. And you just torpedoed that right off the bat here, off the top of the show.
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Buck Sexton
You know, her name was Natalie. Her name was True Story. Her name was Natalie Horschlog. That's her real name.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I understand why she changed her name.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
In Clay Travis Buck Sexton show President Trump having a Cabinet meeting today and we've got a funny cut from President Trump about trying to keep the Cabinet meeting shorter because even he got bored when it went on for so long recently. But I believe we have removed the expletives from this. But I did think it was important for you to hear what Alex Preddy was saying to the ICE agents about 11 days before he was shot. Here he is.
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Buck Sexton
Well, just, I mean it was think of like the Founding Fathers and the great rhetoric of our nation. I was amazed. You know, he came forth and he said, hear ye, hear ye. I speaketh on behalf of my First Amendment rights of this great nation of patriots to address you with my grievances. Or Clay this way.
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Clay Travis
Yes, listen. Okay, so it's a little bit hard.
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Buck Sexton
To hear give me liberty or give me death to this Patrick. It's a little bit of a. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
I would say, Buck, this was devastating to the argument of Alex Preddy's overall saintly, if only for this reason. When I first shared this video, I actually went in the comments. I don't spend a lot of time in the comments necessarily unless I think you're gonna make me laugh. And a lot of times you guys do. But I went in and I was surprised by how many left wingers were in the comments immediately saying this is AI. This isn't real. Because I think they recognized. And then almost immediately, to their credit, the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is basically left wing slop in Minneapolis, they came out and they said, oh, sorry, this is, this is real. And it feels like the story has to a large extent, Buck vanished. Like I'm watching my quad box here. Nobody is talking about Alex Preddy today. After that video came out, they've actually shifted to talking a lot about the FBI seizing 700 boxes in in Atlanta.
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Buck Sexton
This is a very, very prescient moment to talk about Manufacturing Delusion, which is available for pre sale now, Clay, where there's a whole chapter on how not only is AI going to be used for disinformation purposes, etc. As it already is, but people will seize on AI to continue with their own prejudices about different situations. Meaning all you have to do, it doesn't matter if it's verified or not. If someone believes, for example, that, you know, Trump used Putin to hack into voting machines in 2016, you create some video, you create some basis for this and people will believe what they want to believe, even if it's fake and they're told it's fake, they'll say, no, I don't believe that it's fake. Right. So this is what you are seeing that with pretty right now. That's exactly what's going on. They're going, oh, there must be AI. It's not that people, if they're told it's a, I will necessarily wake up, they'll believe the AI when they want to believe the AI. That's the world that we are very quickly realizing we are in. And Clay, one other thing about this, I think just be prepared. All of a sudden you're having these people say, well, this doesn't matter at all. What he did before doesn't matter, and who he was doesn't matter. And, oh, okay. So for a few days we're told, this guy, he's a nurse, he's a. Was. Was he a veteran? I heard someone say that I don't.
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Clay Travis
Even know all that mattered for the pat once he was shot. All that mattered was his past history in life as evidence of why he shouldn't have been shot.
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Buck Sexton
He was. We were basically getting the New York Times, having people talk about how in high school he helped an old lady across the street and gave up his seat on the bus once in 1987 or something. I mean, that's all we're being told, what a great human being he is. I was just waiting for the George Floyd Ask murals to start popping up in Minneapolis, of course, with him with the new square jaw and the incredible good looks and everything that they had fabricated for him. But, like, we're. We're getting ready. So the fact that he was so amazing, Clay was a huge part of the news cycle.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Until it becomes clear that actually people who know him said he had essentially Clay radicalized. This guy was an anti ice jihadist, effectively.
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He was getting weird.
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Buck Sexton
His family thought he was getting weird. Something had happened to him. And then what kind of normal person shows up and does this at ICE officers in a protest. I'm talking about the stuff that's on the video now. Never mind the stuff that led to him getting shot, which also was bizarre. The guy's alone and that. But now it doesn't matter that he's a loon. For days we were told he was, you know, cross between Mother Teresa and Brad Pitt. And now it's how dare you. All that matters is whether or not he brandished his gun in the moment he was shot. Oh, ok. That's how the game is played.
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Clay Travis
I also think this is so incredibly important associated with this. And it is this fact as he was engaging in this behavior, he should have been arrested. We've got to arrest all of these people because if we don't, in addition to the fact that they're radicalized, Buck, when he kicked the taillight of that car out and when he spit on ICE agents and nothing happened to him, it emboldens him to act out more recklessly because he's seen what he can get away with. And so we're actually. The empathy here of not arresting these protesters is actually toxic in the end result because I do think if he'd been arrested that time, I think he probably would be alive today. I really do.
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Buck Sexton
Accountability matters. And accountability matters in these, in these criminal issues. It matters as just a person in your day to day life, Clyde. I'm always reminded of this. Remember the Duke lacrosse case, which now the Stephen Miller footage is showing up, or Stephen Miller was like totally on the right side of that. And that was a real moment. That's before you or I were doing, doing media. That was a real moment though. I mean, they were trying to railroad those kids. And I had some kind of third order family connections to one of them where someone, someone in my family is very close to someone who's very close to one of the kids. And you know, we knew that they were getting railroaded, the whole thing. I bring it up, Clay, because the accuser who was just a liar and tried to ruin people's lives, she should have been prosecuted for making false statements about a felony matter, especially a felony sex crime. She should have. Because it's not that they couldn't prove the Duke lacrosse players. I know we're going Back to what, 2005?
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Clay Travis
I'm looking it up right now because I was 2004 actually.
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Buck Sexton
It's not that they couldn't prove the Duke lacrosse players were, you know, it's not a not guilty Thing, it's. They were innocent, okay? They weren't even. They weren't even there. The whole thing was absurd.
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Clay Travis
2006.
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Buck Sexton
2006, close. Fast forward. You know that they didn't bring any charges against the accuser who lied. And that is a crime. And they knew that she lied, and then she went on and murdered somebody, stabbed them to death. Now you could say, okay, well, one thing doesn't actually, I think it would have been better off if she had had to face the music on trying to ruin people's lives. I think it would be better for her to have to look in the mirror, maybe spend a year or two in prison for what she did instead of getting 15 to life, which is, I think, what she ended up getting for murder, for stabbing a guy to death.
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Clay Travis
You hit on something that I want to continue to hammer and I think should be standard in America. If you accuse someone of a crime, it could be a sex crime, it could be any crime, and you are able to be proven to have lied, which actually is becoming very common now because there's lots of text message evidence. You know, the technology as such, you should be charged and face the exact same punishment that the person would have faced if you had been able to convict them. In other words, if you accuse someone of rape and you made that up, like the Duke lacrosse case, when you are proven to be a liar, as happened in Duke lacrosse, she should have faced the exact same punishment that all of those Duke lacrosse players would have faced if they had been convicted. In other. There's a mutuality. I think there should be a mutuality in the law because we have to treat lies as more consequential because again, to your point, buck process as the punishment when we can. Once you're a guy, if you're accused of rape, they put your name out everywhere. Everybody sees it. You may get kicked out of school, you lose your job. Everything else happened to members of this administration. Yes. And if it later comes out that it isn't true, there are absolutely no consequences for the woman because we have a rape shield law in place. So the mutuality of danger, the mutuality of potential punishment doesn't exist. I think we should have mirror laws. That's fine. If you, if you commit a sexual assault, you should go to prison for the rest of your life or however long the statutes show. Right. But if you make it up, you should be prosecuted in charge to the full extent of the law you're walking though into.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I, by the way, I agree with you, but you're walking into a level of nuance that a lot of people are going to immediately skip past, which is they're going to say, now no one's going to want to file a rape claim or whatever. It's not. If you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the offender did. That's the standard. It's. It can be proven beyond any doubt, beyond a reasonable doubt that you lied about the entire thing. Yes, that's. That's a very high standard. But in the situation like, like the Rolling Stone case, another very well known one. Well, I mean, now, that wasn't a. That didn't go to a criminal case. But I'm just saying, in a situation where someone just completely fabricates lacrosse Cross.
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Clay Travis
Is the perfect example to your point. Like that woman lied. Those women lied. They should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law. There might be someone alive if they had done it. And again, this is proving that you lied. Proving that you lied is hard standard. Right. So there's still ability to lie. But if you get proven to lie, there should be way more than just, oh, the guy's. The guy's innocent.
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Buck Sexton
It was. That is the actual. By statute, they should have been prosecuted by statute, the D.A. but they decided not to because of all this stuff. So it is illegal to do it. They just decided not to bring the charge. Why are we talking about this Preddy? How is this guy still running around doing this stuff? You can spit in an ICE officer's face and kick the taillight of and face no consequences. You can attack government vehicles and personnel and face no consequences at all. That's where we are. It's weird because I remember with January 6th, if you walk into the Capitol building for less than a minute, ask Julie Kelly. And she followed these cases all so closely, and she followed them when a lot of people had kind of forgotten about them, by the way, which is one of the reasons why we have so much respect for Julie on this show and we tried to elevate these cases.
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Clay Travis
I donated a bunch of money so they could get lawyers if. For people who have forgotten.
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Buck Sexton
It was nice of you, but you're rich. It was. It was crazy what they were doing to these people. Crazy what they were doing to them. And there was no tears for them.
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Clay Travis
Whatsoever from all these people walked inside of ropes inside of the Capitol. Many of them did and were prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Guy kicks out a taillight and spits on ICE agents and nothing happens to him. I'm laughing Too, by the way, Buck, because I just checked my email to get ready to do this. Ready. And I have equal parts reactions to us talking about this Alex Preddy character and also people fired up about your Natalie Portman take. So you want to talk about range in the first 45 minutes. I have side by side emails from Alex, Freddy take. And I'm gonna read this, this email from a guy who was fired up. Big Natalie Portman fan base evidently out there. That is, you're wrong. Furious at Buck.
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Buck Sexton
I think, okay, they probably, they probably like sinners too.
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Tom Homan
Wrong.
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Clay Travis
I don't know about centers. I haven't watched it. But I, I think I appreciate Natalie Portman's work. Storms like one this past week that we are still dealing with in Nashville. And by the way, I may need to tee off in this program over this. There's still a hundred thousand people without power households in Nashville. I've got tons of friends and family who don't have power. The Nashville electric service and the mayor of Nashville has dropped the ball on a level that I haven't seen in a very, very long time. And I am super frustrated for so many different people. We've been very fortunate. We kept our power the entire time. But about half the city of Nashville lost their power. If you're trying to rely on government, unfortunately, especially left wing government, they just fail over and over and over again. And that's one reason you might want to have rapid radios. Power is still out for 100,000 households in Nashville alone. A lot of you down in Mississippi. Again, I got a message from one of our listeners who said the only way he was able to get in touch with his daughter, she goes to school at Ole Miss, was through rapid radios. Snowstorms got another, what is they calling it, a bomb cyclone snowstorm. That doesn't sound good. For those of y' all on the east coast coming this way, rapid radios, they last five days without a charge and allow you to be able to get in touch everywhere. Ask our producer Greg. He put one in his wife's hands, carried the other in New York City because he was concerned about the snowfall that was going to happen there and what might happen with his home. Right now you can get off 60% off. Producer Greg lives upstate a little bit, comes into the city every single day and they got a lot of damage. Another big storm coming. Go to rapidradios.com today. Discover exclusive deals that won't last long. That's rapidradios.com 60% off. We've got them in the Travis household. You can't rely on the government when disaster befalls you. Get hooked up. Today, that is rapidradios.com get hooked up rapidradios.com elevate your connection, your experience. Rapid radios, communication redefined.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome in, everybody, to the Thursday edition, second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. And we have a government shutdown on the horizon, everybody. Government shutdown could happen.
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Clay Travis
Oh, boy.
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Buck Sexton
Another shutdown. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. What are we gonna do? It could happen. This Friday, I think is when we're talking about this, right? Isn't that the latest? Yeah, we're just letting you know we're watching it.
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Clay Travis
We'll see.
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Buck Sexton
There'll be a bunch of stuff going on in Capitol Hill also today. Tom Homan having a really strong showing at this press conference. We want to get to that with you in a little bit, but we had a really interesting call if he's still with us, because I got to say this, to me, this is one of those moments. The Duke lacrosse case, I understand it was a long time ago and like I said, Stephen Miller was on cable news as a college student standing up for these kids. So it's amazing how the world turns and life comes full circle. But we have a guy who says he is from Durham, North, North Carolina, and was a detective. Well, I'll let him tell us. John, you're calling in from Durham, North Carolina. What's going on?
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John (Caller from Durham)
Yes, sir. I just want to say I was not involved in the case. I was assigned to the security detail on the day when Ms. Mangum actually admitted that she had made it all up. And that day there were members on, if I could say the name or not, but of the New Black Panther Party that was there marching and complaining. And then once she said that and people in the courtroom, they didn't apologize to Duke students that were accused. They just got up and left.
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Clay Travis
What was the story in 2006, I think is maybe the beginning of identity politics. It was a pre social media era. I can't even imagine what that case would have been like in a social media era, but how long did that stretch on what was that like being a detective involved in any way in that area during that entire process?
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John (Caller from Durham)
I will tell you that some of my fellow detectives, and especially the lead detectives in that, as well as some of the assistant district attorneys handling that, they had a lot of, for lack of better words, PTSD because of that. Because they had been accused and of all these things and being racist and all this, that and the other. And when the truth came out, it was like, no apologies. It was just like, okay, those.
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Buck Sexton
Were you hearing. Were you hearing from your colleagues in Durham law enforcement that, you know, before it became, like you said, the woman came out in court and just said she made the whole thing up. But there were. And I remember the prosecutor's name was. Was Mike Nifong. Were the law enforcement officers that were your, you know, your comrades down in Durham, were they all pretty much aware that this was like a hoax or was there a lot of. Well, we got to wait and see.
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Clay Travis
We don't know.
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John (Caller from Durham)
It was more wait and see what comes out in court.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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John (Caller from Durham)
Let the evidence speak for itself.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, well, John, thank you for calling in. Interesting voice from the past on this one. But, Clay, that was also. There are some moments where I remember just being, I think to myself, like, I. I'm. I'm conservative or I'm right wing or whatever, and that was one of them. I remember I was. I. I was dating a young, young lady at the time, and she got very angry at me when she found out that I did not believe the accuser at all. So that caused a big fight. And I was like, well, I believe in reality, and all the things that I'm hearing about this do not match up with reality.
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Clay Travis
So, I mean, it's one of the biggest failures in the history, I think, of. Of the entire investigative proceedings ever. Right. I mean, to have the case. Go to the point. Remember, they shut down the entire team season.
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John (Caller from Durham)
They.
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Clay Travis
And again, this is. I feel like a lot of people have forgotten about this story, but to me, it really kind of represented the beginning of identity politics taking over sports because it was, I think, two black strippers alleged these awful series of crimes by.
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Buck Sexton
They alleged gang rape by a bunch of white Duke lacrosse players. A gang rape. That was what. That was what the allegation was.
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Clay Travis
And then they charged all these guys, and many of them weren't even there. Right. I mean, like, the evidence.
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Buck Sexton
They had one of them a few miles away at an ATM machine, and they knew it and they didn't care.
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Clay Travis
And so all of this was based on the fact that they were black women and these were white men. And this was just. The New York Times leaned in on it. I don't even know what settlement those guys got. But it was one of. I imagine it had to be tens of millions of dollars that those people who were alleged to have committed the crimes. God, and I give credit to him. I think ESPN did a really good documentary on this case. The. One of the spokespeople for the. For the Duke lacrosse team, one of the players came out and said, I believe the phrase was. There was a series of fantastic lies when they arraigned them at the courtroom. I mean, they were as outspoken as they could possibly be. It's one of the greatest miscarriages of justice ever. And what I would say in general is if a story completely fits your narrative worldview, and I would even put it in the context of this ridiculous thing that we saw with Elon Omar the other day. I am very skeptical. When the best thing that could happen to someone is a crime and the crime happens to them. Like, remember about Jussie Smollett, being a racial and sex victim in that manner would have been the greatest thing that could have ever happened to his career ever. When the best thing that could ever happen to your career is you're a victim of a crime and you allege you were a victim of a crime. My alarm belts just go off skeptically in this case. I mean, from the get go, it just didn't add up.
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Buck Sexton
Also, Duke University turned on the students right away. The student body at Duke turned on the students right away. They fired the coach, I believe, Clay. I mean, think about that. No one thought the coach. The coach didn't do anything. The coach wasn't. You know, the coach isn't at the.
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Clay Travis
At the strip team. They shut down the team this season. They didn't get to play. All based on these stripper lies. I mean, it's crazy.
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Buck Sexton
Honestly. It's one of the. One of the worst things that any. Any university has. Has done in the 21st, 21st century with regard to the identity politics stuff. There's a. It was a huge, huge national case. New York Times. If you go back and read the editorials, by the way, not, I'm sorry, the news coverage, not just the editorials. It's just gripping with the sanctimonious lib, like white, you know, privilege and. And a story of race and class clashing on the Duke University campus and all this sort of. Sort of stuff. It's like.
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Tom Homan
Or.
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Buck Sexton
Or you could look at the evidence which made it very clear that these kids didn't do anything, or you could do.
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Clay Travis
That would have collapsed faster. In a social media age with so many People able to dive into the evidence, Clay. I think how it would have played out.
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Buck Sexton
I think you almost has to. You almost have to break up social media into like a bcad. By the way, it's not BCE ADE don't ever fall for. And that tells you a lot. If anyone uses that stuff. Commoner, it's like before X and after X acquisition. Right. There's like the. There's the pre Elon. The pre Elon social media era was an absolute, you know, communist tilted propaganda funhouse, really. I mean, we could operate in it at some capacity, but when things got really hot, they would always just make sure that their side was winning. Now. Yeah, I think now that you would have a really big problem trying to suppress that. That's why Elon doesn't get enough credit for this. By the way. Elon and Trump are buddies again. I told you that would happen. Remember when they had their little tiff, we came here just. I don't think we get enough credit. We tell you things and then they come true. Like 99% of the time. Not, not talking about predicting who's going to win an election. That's always, you know, that's always a coin flip. But when you're looking at issues like this that require you to understand the personalities involved, people like Elon, it's all destroyed with him and Trump. No, it's not. It's going to be fine. All right. They had a little thing, Elon and Trump. You're talking about two guys whose egos could withstand multiple nuclear strikes and they'd be fine. All right. These guys are. They're going to be just fine. And you know, I think that Elon doesn't get enough credit even to this day, Clay, for changing really Internet culture, because there just needed to be one. There needed to be one. The Democrats are still scrambling. We see them scrambling even with the pretty thing. Why do you think they have to run so fast and tell the stories as quickly as they do? Because they know that they've only got a short window before they're getting mocked for lying about stuff. So they have to hammer it so fast right away every time.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. And I think this also, you know, kind of ties in with the grok, which we have talked about. I really do believe, and not a lot of people are talking about this, that AI is going to be in terms of just providing information. I think it's going to be so utterly important what the feed is to provide that information. And GROK has completely changed the game. All we needed was one algorithm that just was down the middle of the road. And GROK will give you data that frankly chat GPT won't. I asked the question of Grok and I would encourage you to go check it out. You know, just getting basic racial data on crimes. Who is committing murders, who is dying of murders from a racial perspective, if you want to look at it, a lot of Chad won't do it because they're afraid of what the data shows. GROK is trying to just give you the truth and let you react to it. And I think that is we are going to see in the decades ahead that Elon buying Twitter was a huge win for the marketplace of ideas on a level that I don't think buck people are really even grappling with yet in terms of how much of a difference it has made. By the way, your boy I was going to play this. We'll get into Tom Homan too. Your boy Scarborough said. We're talking about things that are going to echo for decades. Your boy Scarborough said, I think 20 years from now our kids and grandkids are going to be looking back as a defining moment in the country's history. Alex Preddy being shot. Did you see this? Cut 20. Joe Scarborough, maybe the wrongest man in media.
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Joe Scarborough
Listen, friends, probably 90% of them probably voted for Donald Trump. And something happened this past week where even they would see what the DHS was saying, what Christine was saying about a 37 year old man who got looked like an execution to me, executed in the streets of America a few weeks ago. A 37 year old woman whose final words were I'm not mad at you. And he shot her at point blank range through her window twice and killed her. I think 20 years from now our children and grandchildren are going to be looking back and this is going to be a defining moment. And I will say I, you know, I hope and I pray that the president and the people around him use this moment to understand that things have been pushed too far. They need to start bringing this country together.
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Buck Sexton
Nope, incorrect.
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Clay Travis
I think in a week nobody's going to be talking about Alex Peretti. I tell you right now, as soon as that video came out of Alex Peretti yelling at kicking the tail lights out, screaming curse words at the ICE agents and spitting on them, it vanished. I mean, I'm telling you right now, they're not talking about him on msnbc, they're not talking about him on cnn. It just is like that story never happened.
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Buck Sexton
Clay had vanished like on MSNBC when there's a mass shooting and they find out the guy was yelling Allahu Akbar all of a sudden gotta talk about sports or something else. Like they gotta move on to something else, not something they want to get into. So there you go.
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Clay Travis
So it is true. My mother in law pointing out they're not playing the video. You know, the story is bad for Democrats when suddenly CNN and msnbc, they move on to a new story and just pretend that Alex Preddy didn't exist.
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Buck Sexton
We got to play. The thing is you need the visual too, so maybe it won't work as well on radio. That's one of the frustrations that we can have, which is also why you should subscribe on our YouTube channel. So you can watch these things afterwards or you can watch the video of it. But have you seen the side by side kind of inter. Inter inter. Elizabeth Warren of Elizabeth Warren being like pretty was the absolute, the greatest human being. The most kind, loving, warm. And you could see him like kicking the car like, spittle coming out of his mouth. F bombs dropping, like punching at the cops like she's like, never would have heard a fly, just believed in. And putting milk in little saucers for kitty cats in the neighborhood. It's. It's incredible. If you haven't seen it, it really is good. I'm just telling you. Maybe we could, well at least pull that audio for you so you could hear it and just think about the video. If you haven't. By the way, do we have the video up at Clay and Buck? Just to make it easy, people find. We should probably put the pretty video up@clayandbluck.com so people can see it. Because once you see it, you'll just go, okay, yeah, there still needs to be an investigation of the shooting. I'm not even saying it justifies the shooting. I'm just saying the guy's a maniac and he brought this on himself. That's what happened.
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Clay Travis
It's 100% true. He wanted a confrontation. He was seeking it for weeks. And he's mentally unstable. And I mean, how many times you ever seen somebody spit on somebody else and thought, you know what? This is a good human. Like spitting is just such a nasty thing to do, to even think to.
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Buck Sexton
Do, to spit on someone. I. You have a mind meld within here. I had the exact same. Your first thing is to spit at somebody. If you spit at somebody like that, you're trash. It's a trash move.
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Clay Travis
It really is. I just, I can't ever remember seeing anybody spit and thought, hey, you know, that's the good guy. The spit. The spitter is. I mean, it's just such a nasty, vile thing to eat.
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Buck Sexton
It's like being a guy who tries to scratch another guy's eyes, you know, like, like, what are you doing?
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
In Clay Travis Buck Sexton show okay shameless plug for YouTube right now. Speed Sexton moving up on 10 months old with quite the chunky smile right now on video for all YouTube subscribers. If you like chunky babies dressed up in cute outfits, yes it is Shameless. You should go subscribe to the YouTube channel because you never know when a cute baby is going to appear. So much, so much going on out there. We got some good news for you before we dive into Tom Holmans. I can't ever keep a secret. I'm not even sure we're supposed to say this yet, so this is on me if we're not supposed to say it, but it is very cool. Um, the show is going to be on Sirius XM which it never has been before in the first five years. Rush was not on satellite radio channel 123. That's the triumph station starting on February 9th. So for all of you out there, we know we have so many truck drivers who truckers who listen all over the country. You're going from one state, one time zone to another. We love all of our 555am FM stations in all 50 states. Nothing is changing with that. Nothing is changing with the podcast. You should be subscribed and we hope you will subscribe on YouTube and all the social media platforms. But starting on February 9 on channel 123, you will be able to hear this program every Monday to Friday. So we are excited about this. It's a thanks to you guys that the show five years in has been growing a lot. Affiliates are happy and obviously I heart is happy and we want you to be able to find us as many places as possible. So we've got all social media handles. Again, nothing changing with our 555 affiliate stations but we know that some of you out there are big fans and don't have a great affiliate station or maybe you drive and the station doesn't pick up very well for for you when you're going a certain direction. This will help to fill in those gaps. So you will know that if you have Sirius XM you can hear us every single day on channel 123 that is starting a little bit a week from now. So we want to be everywhere that you guys are. Starting in June. Plan is to be able to have all three hours of video for you to be able to watch and consume any way that you would like as well.
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Buck Sexton
It will be the five year anniversary of the Clay and Buck show as, as it exists.
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Clay Travis
So probably a good, a good target date for us to have all three hours of video would be on the five year anniversary. So maybe we can make that happen.
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Buck Sexton
Are you gonna get me like flowers or chocolate or anything, Clay?
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Clay Travis
No. I'm bad enough at getting gifts for my wife. So you don't, you certainly don't get anything.
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Buck Sexton
Notice he doesn't even pretend. He doesn't even play a lot. He's like, oh, yes, Buck, I'll get you something nice. It's very sad.
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Clay Travis
No, I'm not a gift guy. Like, my presence is quite the gift.
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Buck Sexton
Only for my, only for my wife. I'll be honest with you. I'm also a, like I said, I'm a, you know, give me, give me my nephews 5 to 9 account so I can put money into it. That's my version of I don't do the other stuff.
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Clay Travis
Did you actually. This is funny. Before we get to Tom Holman, our friend Jesse Waters had a segment where we were talking about Sydney Sweeney's new lingerie company in advance of Valentine's Day. And he had, I think it was Lydia Moynihan on from the New York Post who does good work. And he asked her good move, bad move for a husband to buy Sydney Sweeney lingerie for his wife. Because on the one hand, it's nice. It's Valentine's Day. Here's lingerie downside. It means that the husband has definitely been checking out Sydney Sweeney in her new lingerie in advance of giving the wife or girlfriend lingerie for, for Valentine's Day. I didn't even see Lydia. Lydia Moynihan's full answer because it was such a funny question that, that I had to give a hat tip to the Waters crew. So that, that is actually a really, really good question. So that is floating around out there. But in all seriousness, the reason why the show is expanding is because you guys have been so fantastic in being fans of the program and chasing us down wherever we go. And so we're excited to be on 123 on satellite radio, something Buck and I have wanted to do for some time because we just want to make this show as easy for you guys to access, Access, no matter where you are across the country. And again, we know a ton of you are truckers, and probably the amount of time that you spend sometimes trying to track down the show from one city, one state to another is substantial. So that will be an easy way to. To be able to follow the show. And we hope that you guys will be able to take advantage of that. Now, let's play a couple of these cuts, Buck, because both you and I thought Tom Holman was masterful in the way that he has addressed everything surrounding the attacks that have been taking place in Minneapolis. And he said a lot of different things. Uh, this would be substantial in a positive direction. This is cut six. Homan says Attorney General Ellison says that they will start to turn over violent criminals now. Because I think if this follows through, this is actually a hugely important win for everybody in Minneapolis. Cut six.
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Tom Homan
I'm also pleased to announce I had a very good meeting with Attorney General, Attorney General Ellison, and he has clarified for me. The county jails may notify ICE of the release dates of criminal public safety risks. So ICE can take custody of them upon the release from the jail. Look, I've said this many times before. I've said it for the last several years. Give us access to the illegal alien public safety threat and the safety and security of a jail. It's common sense. It's safer for the community, is safer for the agent, and they're safer for the alien.
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Clay Travis
He says cut 10 here, Buck. We're not surrendering our mission at all. We're just doing it smarter. Tom Holman this morning enforcing operation.
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Tom Homan
I've done many, many of them. It just makes it safer for everyone when we know exactly what we're looking for. What is this criminal history? What is his immigration history? Where'd you live? Is it an apartment complex versus the house? You know, it just makes this operation cleaner, more efficient, and it's proven less violence. But we know exactly what we're getting into, and we can take the necessary precautions to keep everybody safe. You know, some of the operations that I've been involved in, we know there's children in the house based on surveillance. So we know you gotta be a little bit different when you go into the house because there's gonna be children present. So target enforcement operations. Wait. We've always done it, I think, got away from a little bit. And we're gonna make sure we do target enforcement operations. And look, I will say it again. We are not surrendering our mission at all we're just doing smarter.
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Clay Travis
One more cut. Cut 8. Criminals are a priority. But if you enter the country illegally, you're not safe from being targeted and or being deported. Cut eight.
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Tom Homan
During the country legal. You're not, you're never off the table. You know, but privatization doesn't mean. But you forget about. Let me say this. If the message we, we sent as you enter this country legally, it's a crime. Don't worry about it. You can have your due process. Show up in court. Not show up in court, get order, move. Don't worry about it. Unless you commit a serious crime, you're good to go. If that's the message we sent to the world, you never gonna fix this problem.
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Clay Travis
Okay. I thought it was a masterful performance, Buck. I loved him setting the agenda. Tom Holman to me and I think you're in agreement on this should be the front facing spokesperson for all issues relating to the border and enforcement of our laws here.
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Buck Sexton
He should be the guy who is making the most important strategic level decisions about all things going on with this obviously in the name of and with the stamp of approval of the president. But he should be the point guy on this. You know, I mean he should be the equivalent of the Secretary of War, except he's the secretary of deportation. I mean this should be the guy who, and I know people have said he's the, he's a czar and he's kind of. Yeah, but you know, there's been a lot of DHS Secretary Noem, look, she's got. When DHS is such an unwieldy bureaucracy as it is. Clay, you've got Secret Service under dhs. I think, I think now I, it's hard to even keep up. But it changed. All this changed from when I was in the CIA. You've got Coast Guard. Is Coast Guard in DHS now? I think it is. ICE obviously is Customs and Border Patrol is. And there's a tsa. I mean there's all these agencies that are all together under this DHS banner. I, I, I think that, you know, Secretary Noem can handle some more of that broad mandate. And on this issue of the deportations, you want to see Tom Holman. This guy's done this for over 30 something years. He knows everything. He knows every trick that people try to play in the public arena to lie about this stuff. He knows the reality that the border patrol agents face and that ICE agents face either with border or interior enforcement. It's just the guy you want to. This is what you Want. You want somebody who has the knowledge, the experience and the leadership capability to get this entity to function for its mission the way that it should. So I felt that way about him all along, and he did a phenomenal job in the press conference. And I think the more that Trump entrusts this mission to Tom Holman, the better it will be because he knows, he knows how to make the case and he knows how to also expose if some mayor or police commissioner wants to play games, he'll establish what the statutory problem with that is and he'll take it to the public Clay in a way that everyone can understand and everyone can see. There's obstruction going on here. And that's, I think, really critical.
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Clay Travis
And all of this is, I thought, just really well done in terms of setting the agenda. I think we have one more cut. Team was telling me that they think we should play, and that was cut five, which I don't think we played yet. One more there in my meetings with.
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Tom Homan
Folks so far, and most importantly Governor and the ag, the mayor. Fry, we didn't agree on everything. I didn't expect to agree on anything. One thing we all agreed on was U.S. immigration Customs Enforcement was a legitimate law enforcement agency that has a duty to enforce the laws enacted by Congress and keep this community safe. Like I've said many times for last several years, even before this administration, jurisdictions that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities are sanctuaries for criminals. Sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals and endangers the residents of the community.
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Clay Travis
The numbers out there buck ice arrest in many. In Minnesota, 11,000, which sounds like a pretty substantial number. Now, obviously population factors in here, but let me give you a number. Texas, 88,000. We haven't seen a single story about resistance to ICE or Border Patrol in the entire state of Texas, 88,000 arrests. In Minnesota, we've seen 11,000 arrests. Now, the population obviously is much higher in Texas, but it isn't eight times the population, I don't think, of Minnesota. So on a per capita basis, there are lots of states out there that are participating in a functional and effective way and others that are not. And I think it's worth paying attention to and, and recognizing now, Fry, there does seem to be a difference of what people say publicly and what they are saying privately. Based on the, the way that this talk went, Mayor Frye just said in an address to a bunch of other different mayors that ICE needs to be banished nationwide. So again, cut 36, abolish ICE is becoming an actual Democrat argument, which I don't think plays well for them. Cut 36.
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Despite what you make here on different media channels, crime is down in virtually every category and virtually every neighborhood of Minneapolis. Minneapolis is a safe city. It is less safe when chaos reigns supreme. It is less safe when families do not feel comfortable going to school or buying food at the grocery store store because they're worried that their very family might get ripped apart. It is less safe when we have roving bands of agents marching down the street just looking for somebody who might be concerned. And I gotta tell you, everybody is concerned when you have that kind of occupation. And so we've been very clear. The Operation Metro surge needs to end. This kind of conduct and siege needs to stop. Not just in Minneapolis. It needs to stop nationwide.
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Clay Travis
What I would love just know.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, he's some mayor. He's a moron. This is. How about.
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Clay Travis
No, I would love. This is where actual data would be fun. What is the number that Jacob Fry thinks is an appropriate and allowable and permissible number of illegal immigrants in the country? Nobody ever asked this question of the people out there that are dancing around and spending a lot of time arguing that there needs to be no enforcement from ice. Okay, what's the number that you think would be too many? Would 50 million, 100 million? Should we just make Latin Americans, everyone in all of Latin America able to come here and live? Where would you draw the line and say, you know what? This doesn't make sense. And there's never really an announcement or comprehension or discussion of that. Look, I'm headed out to California next week. Super bowl is going on. I will be in LA at our affiliates. Then we've got. We need to get a good affiliate in San Francisco. I don't think we. Hopefully I'm not wrong in this, but I don't think we have a great affiliate in San Francisco. It's one of the cities we need to hit. You'll be able to listen on satellite radio now, though, I guess in San Francisco, in Dallas and other cities where maybe we can't have a great listening ability. Philadelphia, where Buck has been insulting everybody about the cheesesteaks. You'll be able to listen to all those places and you can play prize picks in all 50 states, including California, Texas, Florida and Georgia. Download the Price Picks app today, use my name, Clay as the code and you get 50 bucks in your account. Let me repeat this just in time for the Super Bowl. I'm going to give you a pick next week. You go to prizepix.com you put in the name Clay when you play $5, you get $50 deposited in your account. You can have a little bit more fun. I know a lot of people out there. They have super bowl parties. They play the squares game. There's a variety of different ways that you can have cool games for the super bowl parties that are going on. Make Prize Picks a part of your super bowl party. Available in all 50 states. California, Texas, Florida and Georgia. Download the Prize Picks app today. Use My Name Clay as the code. You get 50 bucks instantly in lineups when you play $5. That's code CLAY on prize picks for 50 bucks in lineups when you play five dollars. Win or lose, you get 50 bucks in lineups just for playing Guaranteed Prize Picks. It's good to be right.
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News and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Buck Sexton
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