Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jul 15 2025

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Daily Review – July 15, 2025

Hosted by Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on iHeartPodcasts

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1. Trump’s Tariffs and Inflation

(00:05 – 05:12)

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the economic impact of former President Donald Trump's tariff policies. They discuss how, despite widespread media predictions, tariffs have not significantly driven inflation.

• Buck Sexton highlights, “Trump barely got any attention at all” regarding inflation concerns under the Trump 2.0 regime. He notes, “June we had a surplus… because of the tariffs that Trump is bringing to bear.”

• Clay Travis concurs, questioning the consensus among economists: “All economists know that tariffs are going to be inflationary… Maybe we should ask those economists what they really know because that hasn't happened.”

Treasury Secretary Scott Besant is quoted at [03:28] saying, “I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number. I think it's the trend… tariffs were going to cause a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened.”

2. Economic Outlook and Mortgage Rates

(05:12 – 09:21)

The hosts shift focus to the broader economic landscape, emphasizing the challenges posed by high mortgage rates and critiquing the Federal Reserve's policies.

• Buck Sexton expresses frustration over rising mortgage rates: “We went from about 2.5 or 3% mortgage rates to around 7%. And as a result, the housing market is completely frozen.”

• Clay Travis supports Trump's economic strategies, asserting, “It's looking really, really strong and it is a moment in time where he's not getting all the credit that I think he should.”

They discuss the potential for economic recovery if interest rates were adjusted, with Buck stating, “I think our interest rates are about two points too high. And if they would come back by about two points, I think you would see an unfreezing of the housing market.”

3. Border Security and Crime Rates

(09:21 – 28:03)

A significant portion of the discussion centers on improvements in border security and declining violent crime rates, attributing these successes to Trump’s policies.

• Buck Sexton outlines the three-pronged strategy: “Economy, border, crime.” He emphasizes, “Border shut down. Deportation process underway. We've never had a more secure border and crime.”

• Clay Travis adds, “the number of murders is collapsing all over the country because we now have police that are able to do their jobs, because we have ICE agents deporting violent predators and criminals.”

They also touch upon the Democratic Party's struggles to counter these positive developments, especially in the realms of border security and crime reduction.

4. Democratic Messaging and Gavin Newsom

(30:28 – 46:18)

Travis and Sexton critically examine California Governor Gavin Newsom’s policies and his potential candidacy for the 2028 presidential election.

• Buck Sexton critiques Newsom’s stance on transgender issues, stating, “He just kind of jumps from one hot button topic to another without having to take any sides.”

• Clay Travis shares an anecdote about an interview with Newsom, highlighting his evasive responses: “He tries to acknowledge that there is a legitimate reason that people would care about this and then dodges all actual positions.”

The hosts argue that Newsom represents a problematic facet of the Democratic Party, comparing his approach to that of Bill Clinton but without similar substance. They express skepticism about Democrats' ability to present coherent and genuine messaging, especially in light of internal divisions and failed attempts to control narratives.

5. ICE Facilities and Media Critique

(48:34 – 62:26)

Travis and Sexton discuss the media’s portrayal of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and recent developments regarding ICE facilities.

• Buck Sexton references Rachel Maddow’s coverage, mocking her labeling of ICE facilities as “internment camps” and criticizing left-wing media for demonizing law enforcement: “Rachel Maddow still does stuff over there.”

• Clay Travis denounces the media’s approach, likening it to an “invasive species” that overwhelms and controls narratives: “If you let any leftist into an entity, as I always say, it is like in nature an invasive species.”

They highlight an incident at a Major League Baseball All Star Game press conference where a reporter from Defector posed a question linking voter suppression to ICE activities, which Buck Sexton found absurd and indicative of left-wing media’s overreach.

6. BRICS Summit and the US Dollar

(48:34 – 50:18)

The conversation shifts to international economics, specifically the BRICS summit in Brazil and its implications for the US dollar.

• Clay Travis introduces Philip Patrick from Birch Gold Group, who reports that BRICS nations are actively working to reduce their reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

• Buck Sexton reacts with concern: “Yikes. That doesn't sound good.”

The hosts stress the importance of protecting personal savings against the declining value of the dollar, promoting gold investment as a safeguard.

7. MLB All Star Game Press Conference Incident

(30:37 – 62:26)

A notable segment covers a controversial press conference at the MLB All Star Game where a reporter from Defector questioned the event’s location in Atlanta amidst claims of voter suppression and ICE arrests.

• Buck Sexton narrates the incident, stating, “This was the second question at the Major League Baseball All Star Game event yesterday.”

• The hosts criticize the reporter’s approach and the broader implications for Atlanta, a majority-black city, arguing that such narratives unfairly target and punish the city.

8. Conclusion and Final Remarks

(62:26 – 64:00)

Wrapping up the episode, Clay Travis emphasizes the need to focus on economic achievements under Trump while cautioning listeners about long-term fiscal challenges.

• Clay Travis concludes, “Making our nation's economy grow again like it was during President Trump's first term is a huge priority.”

• Buck Sexton reiterates the show’s commitment to highlighting Trump’s economic resurgence, encouraging listeners to stay informed through their podcast.

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Notable Quotes:

• Buck Sexton [03:28]: “We are on track for hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs. And so far the overall cost of goods has not substantially altered. Is it time to say, hey, maybe Trump was right?”

• Clay Travis [05:12]: “All economists know that tariffs are going to be inflationary… Maybe we should ask those economists what they really know because that hasn't happened.”

• Buck Sexton [09:21]: “Every four years, no doubt. Economy, border, crime, it's as easy as EBC.”

• Clay Travis [23:29]: “If you eliminate that opportunity and force business to have to pay American citizens to do the jobs, costs don't go up that much.”

• Buck Sexton [44:16]: “No, 8 year olds should not be able to have their genitals.”

• Clay Travis [62:02]: “You're going to punish Atlanta… You're going to hurt Atlanta, which is a great city, which is a majority black city.”

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This episode offers a comprehensive analysis of Trump’s economic policies, the state of the economy, border security, and critiques of Democratic strategies and media portrayals. Travis and Sexton provide their perspectives on current events, aiming to inform and engage listeners with a focus on conservative viewpoints.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome in. We are rolling Tuesday Edition Clay Travis, BUCK Sexton Show. I am in Atlanta, Georgia, where there was a pretty phenomenal home run derby last night. For those of you that may have been paying attention, there were not a lot of sports related activities on the program. Tonight is the All Star Game, Buck. And in order to get into our Atlanta affiliate studio, which is right by the Atlanta Brave Stadium, they have a huge red carpet for all of the players to walk. And I think I was able to sneak in because otherwise I don't know how you get into this building. So I had to already begin my day engaging in covert activities to even manage to make it into the studio today. But it is an amazing fun scene in Atlanta as the All Star Game gets closer. Appreciate our affiliate down here hosting me in the Atlanta studios. You are in Miami. And one of the big questions that has, I would say, consumed much of the first six months of the Trump 2.0 regime is what's going to happen with inflation? And Trump barely got any attention at all. June we had a surplus, that is, we brought in the federal government did more money than we spent, which had not happened in years. To a large extent, that was occurring because of the tariffs that Trump is bringing to bear. Well, we got inflation related numbers that came out earlier this morning. And yet again, despite the attempts of the media to pretend otherwise, the data does not appear to reflect that there is a massive impact of inflation. We've got Treasury Secretary Scott Besant on and I think this is an interesting conversation to have. Was Trump right all along so far about the tariffs and the fact that they would not have a major inflationary impact? So far that largely appears to be true. Here is Scott Besant, cut one. But I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number. I think it's the trend. And I think one thing that Wall Street, a lot of economists, market in general got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to cause a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened. Okay, Buck, so so far we are balancing the budget in June, which it may be a little bit of a calendar quirk, but it's still a very impressive marker. We are on track for hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs. And and so far the overall cost of goods has not substantially altered. Is it time to say, hey, maybe Trump was right? We're also, I think it's worth mentioning near record all time highs in stock prices as we sit here in mid July. We hope that you guys listened to us and stayed pat. The S&P 500 is near an all time record high. Just a little bit back off of it. That was set recently. Was Trump right? Is it, is it time to actually have that conversation about whether the conventional wisdom was totally wrong about this?

[Clay Travis]

You can certainly say Trump wasn't as wrong as they said he would be. And they spoke with certainty on these things. The certainty of the consensus, the certainty of economists, end quote. Right. All economists know Clay, that tariffs are going to be inflationary. All economists know that tariffs are going to rise prices. Maybe we should ask those economists what they really know because that hasn't happened. And to be clear, they said it would happen, it should have happened if they were right right away. And that is not what has occurred here. So once again we have a situation where I think quite clearly Trump, just like on trade with China, decided that he was going to do something that was against not only the anti Trump Democrat, everything Trump does is bad so called consensus. But even some in his own party, even some who are truly Trump voters and supporters were concerned about the trajectory of this. And meanwhile it looks like it's the negative has not been really apparent at all. And the positive is also on the positive side of a ledger bigger than was initially anticipated with $100 billion of revenue coming in via, you know, on the tariffs you've also got right inflation, 2.7% in June, which is in line with expectations. So staying right steady. And I know that they're now looking for formally Scott Besson says the Treasury Secretary, they're looking for a Fed chair to replace the current Fed chair, which I think is long overdue.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, look, if you told me, hey, what is the most bollocks? There's a fun word, the most flummoxed part, there's another fun word of our economy right now, I would say, and I bet most of you would sign off on this, it's mortgage rates. Because as a result of Joe Biden's inflation in 2021, we went from about 2 and a half or 3% mortgage rates to around 7%. And as a result, the housing market's completely frozen in many respects. And as a result of the housing market being frozen, lots of you out there might be interested in moving. But because you have such incredible mortgages, you're not selling, you're not moving, that is the rate many of you out there would be interested in buying. But the housing market is frozen. And at 7% on some of these mortgages, you're looking around and saying, I just Want to rent. This is another part where Trump is 100% right. Our interest rates are too high. They accelerated too rapidly without hardly any parallels historically because everything was wrong. Jerome Powell completely whiffed. Remember, he said inflation was transitory. They didn't raise rates fast enough, then they overly raised rates. And, and right now, the cost of borrowing, particularly as it pertains to the average home, but also if you're buying a car, if you are paying credit card debt, it's all just too high. And we need, I mean, honestly, I think probably our interest rates are about two points too high. And if they would come back by about two points, I think you would see an unfreezing of the housing market, which would accelerate, I think, economic recovery and growth in a substantial way, to say nothing of businesses feeling more able to borrow money because the rate at which you're having to pay it back is not so high. So this all to me is interconnected because the reason why Jerome Powell has said he has not cut rates is he says the tariffs have a substantial inflationary impact. We have not seen that so far. I would just say what has Jerome Powell done? Well, such that we should be trusting his and other Fed governors opinions on this vis a vis Trump. Because it seems to me, Trump, if you want to criticize him, you can criticize him for lots of things. The guy understands interest rates and real estate better than maybe any president we have ever had. And I do think that he's right about the fact that our economy is not moving as rapidly as it otherwise would if we could get interest rates correct.

[Clay Travis]

Look, the economy is something that unfortunately, I think Trump is almost a victim of his own success with this. There's an expectation based on the first time Trump was in office, when he was still learning a lot more on the job and figuring out who his team should be. There was an expectation once again, Trump would have a strong economy because he understands business. He understands what will get things going for all of us. Right at the Democrats always focus on making it seem like there's some class warfare agenda in the Trump economic push. But really it and specifically in the big beautiful bill, by the way they look at what does this mean for the average American household's disposable income? What does this mean for small businesses that are the still the economic engine of so much hiring and so much of, of gdp? So I think that this is so far so good with Trump. It's looking really, really strong and it is a moment in time where he's not getting all the credit that I think he should, or that certainly he would if he were a Democrat, but that he should, even for a Republican. Because there have been some other things on the agenda lately in the news. And also I think that Trump is expected to do well on the economy. Right. The part of this that's I think a bit of a break is, or a break from the consensus, or the expectation is when he does the things that they say on his own side are going to backfire and it actually looks like it's working. That's the part of this that's pretty remarkable now.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. And if you want to argue on the flip side, they're going to continue to say, oh, the inflation pressure is coming. The inflation pressure is coming. And, and so that is what Jerome Powell basically is arguing. With that in mind, the, the prognostication markets, the prediction markets, have it fairly likely that in September we're going to get a rate cut. So that would suggest to me that the Fed is not as worried now about inflation somehow skyrocketing based on the tariff decisions. And it remains to be seen what exactly is gonna happen with the tariffs. We've got now an August 1st date. There was a panic on Liberation Day back in early April. Stock market prices sold off substantially. I think Trump is emboldened by the recovery of the stock market prices to hold the line when it comes to trying to put in place good trade deals for the country. And I don't think he's pressured by the trajectory of the stock market like he might have been in April. Now, stock prices go up and down. They adjust constantly based on existing economic data. So there's still much to be seen, but I think it's very hard. We said before the election buck, this was a three prong election. Economy, border crime just focused on those three economy. Stock prices all time record high. Inflation back down. Your paychecks are growing faster than the average inflation rate is, which means you have more money in your pocket. That's a very good thing. Border shut down. Deportation process underway. We've never had a more secure border and crime. I think this is one story that you and I and a lot of people in media have not focused on enough. And I don't want to jinx things because summer is typically when the overall rates of violent crime increase. Kids are out of school, people have more free time. People are out in the streets more. They stay out later because the sun's up longer. We are potentially heading in 2025 for the lowest national murder rate that we have seen in a generation put cops back on the streets, let them do their jobs. The number of murders is collapsing all over the country because we now have police that are able to do their jobs, because we have ICE agents deporting violent predators and criminals. And it's not getting very much attention. And I don't want to jinx it. But as we enter summer, we're staring down potentially a generational decline in violent crime in this country.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, it turns out enforcing the law creates more rule of law. And also on the deportation issue, you're starting to see the ramp up is real. This has been promised all along by the Trump administration. And I think, Clay, part of the panic that we've seen and the really ineptitude of Democrats to get their footing going with any kind of messaging here is that the more they show people these immigration raids, the more clear it becomes that a big majority of the American people, including majorities of forget about political party, black Americans, Latino Americans, Latino Americans majority want illegals deported. So they keep doing this old playbook of if we just show and we use the usual phrases about oh, they're just hardworking and no, actually these are people that aren't supposed to be in the country and the American people have decided that that's not going to be okay anymore.

[Buck Sexton]

And this is real.

[Clay Travis]

And Democrats haven't figured out how they're supposed to messages. The Abrego Garcia thing was a massive own goal for them. I think if we all remember that one, the guy got sent to El Salvador Ms. 13 guy alleged. And sure enough, Clay. Yeah, they're, they're running low on areas to hit the president on, no doubt.

[Buck Sexton]

And, and by the way, the number of Americans, that is American citizens getting jobs, a lot of those Biden jobs, when you go back and look at them, were actually illegal immigrant jobs. The number of American jobs that have skyrocketed under Trump is also substantial. I think you're starting to see that impact. So all of that economy in good place, border in good place, crime in good place. That was the three prongs that, that Trump ran on as his 2024 platform. And so far, he's delivering there in a big way. We'll break all this down for you, continue the the discussion about what's going on in the border and the drama in the courts for sure. In the meantime, finding good healthcare coverage in not only difficult, but it can be time consuming something this important. You want to feel good about the decision you make if you're in a full time job with medical benefits. Easy to accept the status quo. But maybe you don't have to settle for just any plan. There's a solution to finding good health care coverage called Ease for Everyone. It offers affordable health care for as low as 262 bucks a month. You can keep your doctor, never pay a deductible, access over 400 prescription drugs for free. Go online to their website. See what plan is right for you and your family. Ease for Everyone Developed by forward look thinking experts located in my hometown of Nashville. Visit ease for everyone.com Clay to join today. That's ease for everyone.com Clay saving America one thought at a time Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Buck Sexton]

I go ahead and write it down. What are we sitting at here? July 15, 2025. So this is very much in pencil because it'll be what, about two and a half years? Ish. Until the Democrats will have to have a nominee for 2028. And that presumes that it ends by Super Tuesday, which will be sometime in March of 2028. But Buck's theory on Gavin Newsom I don't think is a bad one at all. That he's just gonna power through that he thinks he's the guy, the next man up. Now, there will be other people who run J.B. pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, West Moore, Josh Shapiro, and we will see whether any of them are able to give Newsom a real run. But it feels like Newsom is already running because he's doing all these conservative in quotation mark podcast. I will point out producer Ali, we invited Gavin Newsom on this program a long time ago, right? And he has never been willing to come on. Is that correct? Okay, so we have had an open invite. Back when I was, when I was sort of enamored of Gavin Newsom and I just wanted to have a nice chardonnay with him, we invited him on the program. He has not come on, but he has been doing reach out to non traditional Democrat audiences and our friend Sean Ryan, who lives just up the road from me in Franklin, Tennessee. Actually, I met him through Buck several years ago right as he was starting his show. Um, he had Gavin Newsom on and he asked Gavin Newsom a question. Hey, what do you think about really young kids? I think he said 8 year old kids having gender transition surgeries. Now this is something that I think 99.9% of parents think is crazy. But it has become Democrat orthodoxy that if your young child tells you, hey, I feel like I'm a girl and you're actually a boy, or I feel like a boy and you're actually a girl, that you should treat it as an honest opinion and not as just, hey, young kids believe in lots of things that aren't true and they have very fertile imaginations. No, you have to treat it as a very serious thing that even might require medical treatment. And Sean Ryan asked Gavin Newsom about this, that, and I want you to listen to his totally disjointed gobbledygook response, because it's going to basically be his entire 28 campaign is all the things that I support and my party supports. Well, I'm just going to talk and try to confuse you. Listen, what about for your values? I mean, is eight years old too young?

[Gavin Newsom]

Yeah, I mean, look, I, now that I have a nine year old, just became nine. Come on, man. I get it. So those are legit. You know, it's. It's interesting just the issue of age. I haven't. It's interesting as I. And as someone that's been so focused on, on equality, broadly LGBT rights, particularly gay marriage. The trans issue for me is also novel. It's. It's over the last few years, I'm trying to understand as much as anyone else, whole pronoun thing, trying to understand all of that. What, you know, that was like, the hell, I mean, all that stuff. I get it.

[Buck Sexton]

He gets it. Buck. Evil. Is it evil? Keanu Reeves.

[Clay Travis]

You call Keanu.

[Buck Sexton]

I, I, this is what they're gonna do. He's gonna say he gets that you guys might not agree with it, and it makes it sound like he agrees with you, but listen to that whole answer. He just kind of jumps from one hot button topic to another without having to take any sides.

[Clay Travis]

When we were talking about this clip right before we came on, I said, clay, he reminds me of the used car salesman who really wants you to like him, is like, hey, handsome. Like, wow, you're a guy who knows his way around cars. Like, you must be. You must be like, fantastic when you're tracking this thing, right? Like, oh, man. Love a guy who really, you know, Sorry, you get what I'm saying, but won't tell you the price of the car. Like, the one thing you want to know, how much do you want for this car? You can't find out how much the car is, but he just wants to keep on talking you and getting his, his, his hooks into you. So he's going to close this deal. He didn't answer the question at all. And this is what. Whenever Gavin Newsom is about to be courted, he's like, let's just talk about how amazing state of California is. I love my state. I love my state. It's like, we asked you what you had for breakfast, buddy. Like, no one cares about how much you love the state of California, but his whole thing is going to be. He runs with, you know, he runs on charm and hides the substance or has no substance, but same thing.

[Buck Sexton]

He tries to acknowledge that there is a legitimate reason that people would care about this and then dodges all actual positions that he's going to take. And again, California is a broken, in many ways, left wing kingdom. And in order to run to represent the entire nation, he's going to have to turn his back on a lot of the crazy of California. And the way he's going to do it is just by trying to acknowledge that he understands the concerns and he's going to pivot and say things like, we're all Americans, right? This is a conversation. I guarantee this is where it's headed. This is a real conversation we should have. What do you mean conversation we should have? Do 8 year olds deserve to have their penises chopped off? Is not really a conversation to me. I mean, it's a pretty easy answer question. And he's going to try to dodge all this. We saw it earlier when he went on the Charlie Kirk podcast and he tried to say that being male and competing in women's sports was completely unfair. And then what did he do? State of California is fighting right now, the Trump administration for trying to say, hey, this shouldn't be allowed to occur. And there is a dude who won track championships in women's high school in California. So he talks out of both sides of his mouth, which is what traditional politicians do. To me, it feels a bit like Bill Clinton, Buck and except he doesn't have like the actual background of Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was an Arkansas guy who kind of understood things. Gavin Newsom is a elite left wing, rich California guy who reps a lot of those people, and that's his base.

[Clay Travis]

And you've had the major outflow of people from California, which I think is one of the most important data points you can have on whether a state is functioning at a level of governance that attracts people versus repels them. And I think that that number more than anything else speaks to the challenges that California has. And to me, again, it's like people could say, well, the communists, when they took over in the Soviet Union, they had a vast military apparatus and they had all this. Well, yeah, of course, because they took it all. Gavin Newsom didn't build Silicon Valley and Hollywood as the epicenter of the global entertainment industry and as the, the hub for innovation and probably the greatest wealth creation machinery in the modern era, which is Silicon Valley, that just happened to be in the most populous state with the best weather that was built over a period of decades. And that he has take this is A lot like the Bill de Blasio phenomenon in New York. For those of you remember, Bill de Blasio came in, he's like, what are you talking about? City streets are clean. Crime is low. Cities doing great. Crime is low. We kept saying, yeah, but you're. You're messing it up. It's going in the wrong direction. You're ma. And by the time everybody realized, it was like, oh, look, I guess I screwed the whole thing up. When you take over something that is wealthy and functions well, that iceberg doesn't melt overnight. Gavin's melting the iceberg, though. Or actually, he's filling the iceberg with illegals, but that's what's going on.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, look, I was with a guy from Seattle last night watching the. The Home Run Derby, and I was having the conversation to this on a certain extent, like, San Francisco, Seattle and Portland, along with other west coast cities, are among the most geographically beautiful in the entire country, as we've talked about on this program. And it's as if the luxury that they have for all of those beautiful attributes to their cities, they can otherwise take everything else for granted, and they don't have to worry about trying to have a functional city. And finally, it seems like, at least in San Francisco, for instance, people are fed up. I was reading the interview with the new San Francisco mayor, who seems reasonable for San Francisco mayors. But to your point, you know, the Bloomberg era was a great one, following Giuliani. And now you've got mom Donnie saying, hey, Bill de Blasio did a great job. We need more of this, which is actually just eradicating all of the progress that you had over a generation in New York City.

[Clay Travis]

It's troubling to see, but it is the reality before us, so we have to call it out. But, yeah, Gavin Newsom, I think, is the. The Democrat right now in the best position to be the voice of that party. You have this other tag team of AOC and Bernie Sanders, and I know that the lunatic base of the Democrat Party gets really riled up about those two. And I've said they're going to try to build AOC out. They're going to try. I don't know if that'll be successful. There are some things that we can't necessarily foresee. The mood of the country is what's going on between now and the 2028 election. But Bernie is too old, and AOC, I think, really is too dumb. Gavin Newsom is somewhere in the. In the Democrat sweet spot of he can talk the game. And he can dodge and he can evade and, you know, looks the part, Loves talking, loves the sound of his own voice, loves seeing himself on the screen. So that, that may be enough with this Democrat Party. We'll see. And he does this thing too, of, you know, reaching across to the other side. He never actually reaches across to the other side. One of the big things that was bizarre to me was, was people said when he did the, when he did that, that other podcast, not Sean shows, Charlie show, and he said the thing about trans and how he. No, he didn't agree that trans athletes shouldn't compete against, against transgender, you know, against women. He didn't say that. What he said is basically, I feel your pain. Or this is.

[Buck Sexton]

He said it's unfair. He said it's unfair. And then he didn't follow up on it.

[Clay Travis]

But he left it, he left it open. It's unfair to everybody is the point. It's unfair to the trans athlete, it's unfair to the female athlete. It's unfair to society. And that's just a moral relativism that you're going to see a lot of, I think, as the Democrats try to shore up their support by pretending to be something other than that. Which they are, which is always the game. Clay. Right?

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

Democrats, to win national elections, have to pretend not to be Democrats. Look at Joe Biden. If you were to line up, this is a perfect example of this. If you lined up what Joe Biden said and was promising in the six months before election day in 2020, and I know it was Covid, everything else, but, you know, healing, bringing the country together, steady, stable hand, all this stuff. And then the truly left wing lunacy, that Biden was actually the biggest open border in our history. You know, the trillions of dollars of completely unnecessary spending, the trans policy stuff, the mask mandates, the. Or, you know, the vaccine mandates, and you look up, Trump ran and said, I'm going to do these things. And he is doing those things. Yes, Democrats have to lie to voters to win, enough voters to be in power. And then they hope we just forget.

[Buck Sexton]

Every four years, no doubt. Economy, border, crime, it's as easy as ebc. That's exactly what Trump has delivered so far in the first six months. That's what we told you the campaign was. And that's where his focus has been.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

One thing, Clay, that I want to spend some time on in this hour is the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement situation. No surprise, I am sure, to any of you, but Alligator Alcatraz, as it has been named, not too far from where I am. I think it would probably be, I don't know, maybe a two and a half hour drive from here.

[Buck Sexton]

Based on our drive into the Everglades, it is a substantial effort and hard to get to.

[Clay Travis]

We had a very long, arduous drive out to the range, in fact, the Everglades. But it was, it was a tough one. But yes, Alligator Alcatraz, not too far from where I currently am getting a lot of, a lot of news coverage from Democrats. We're looking to find that thing. If you remember, Clay, under the first Trump administration, it was kids in cages. Remember that? That was the thing. And that was with AOC dressed all in white, crying at the fence. We remember this. And then the Trump administration was like, all right, fine, we're gonna do this. Change the policy on the family separation issue. And the left saw, oh, my gosh, we can emotionally charge this and get outcomes that we want. So that was a thing that was going on, but they haven't found that this time around. And as we see, they are demonizing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officers and. And on the side of the people that would like to dox them and threaten them and threaten their families. I mean, elected Democrats, because they want to make sure that everybody can know who these guys are. They're not so concerned with like any other aspect of law enforcement. It seems just this. They want to make sure. Oh, yes. That we know what they're not. If they've done misconduct. No, we just need to know who they are all the time. Very strange. Over on msnbc, this is what they're talking about. Clay, this is cut 16. Rachel Maddow still does stuff over there.

[Buck Sexton]

One day a week. One day a week. One days only. Yes.

[Clay Travis]

Wow, that's such a nice sinecure she has over. That's such a nice situation. It's like being a tenured professor and making $30 million a year to show up and teach your once a week class. A class that nobody should be paying attention to, a class that nobody should want to see, but nonetheless, they're paying her that. Here she is figuring out, she says, what to call these Trump holding facilities for illegals. Place 16.

[Rachel Maddow]

In terms of this facility, you used the term internment camp, and I saw your colleague Debbie Wasserman Schultz used that same phrase. Obviously, that's very evocative language with history in this country that is difficult for a lot of people. Talk about why you think that term is appropriate. I've been struggling with that myself, just as a broadcaster, in terms of how to talk about these things. I mean, in technical terms, if. If you've got a facility that's holding people indefinitely and there's no legal process to get in there and there's no legal process to get out that is traditionally called a concentration camp or an internment camp.

[Clay Travis]

An internment camp or a concentration camp. Clay, do you think that's going to fly? No.

[Buck Sexton]

And look, I think the challenge they have is they're on the wrong side of this issue. And this is why I believe in the marketplace of ideas. Because when Trump came down the escalator in 2015 and started arguing for many of the things he's doing now, most Americans disagreed with him. And partly that's a function of how that was how his desires and his goals were covered by the media. I don't think there's any way to sugarcoat that. But over time, I believe Trump has convinced the vast majority of Americans that we can't have 20 million plus illegals. And the reason I use 20 million as the number is because that's the number Tom Holman told me a few months ago he believes are illegally in the country. Now, I would imagine that number is beginning to decline slowly. But what you're seeing is this is the root cause of a huge amount of the problems that we have in this country. Whether it's, and I know a lot of you have experienced this, the number of illegal immigrant children that are being educated in American schools, whether it is the number of illegal immigrant criminals who are committing violent acts in this country, whether it is the number of illegal immigrants who are taking jobs that otherwise Americans would not take. You know what I've started to see vanish, Buck, is the argument of, oh, these are jobs that Americans won't do. That is such an arrogant argument to me because the entire basis of commerce is if you pay people enough to do a job, eventually they will do it. And what was it the, the meatpacking facility that got raided in Nebraska, if I'm not mistaken, they had to go back and rehire and they were flooded with applicants who were interested in those jobs. And so I just look at it as, yes, it may be sometimes easier, and certainly it's cheaper to go with illegal immigrants as workers, but if you eliminate that opportunity and force business to have to pay American citizens to do the jobs, costs don't go up that much. And the end result is actually much more of a positive in this country. By the way, number one way I know in New York City, Mom, Donnie's game plan here to he ran to a large extent on things cost too much, in particular rent. What would rent be in New York City if we eliminated a million some odd illegals from the rental markets? Basic economics would suggest that the cost of living for rent would go down for all American citizens. In New York City, for instance, I'll.

[Clay Travis]

Tell you this, the hotels, this is a perfect microcosm to macrocosm example of this hotels in New York City in the era of putting all these, you know, these migrants, these illegals in the New York City hotels, the highest prices you've ever seen in the history of New York.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, it's crazy what it costs to stay in a New York City hotel. Right now you, I mean, some of.

[Clay Travis]

You are going to, you're going to, you know, choke on your Crockett coffee when I tell you this, but you can spend $500 a night during the week off season in a New York City hotel that's, you know, nice. But, I mean, it's not a lot of places. I can get. I can get, you know, beachfront up in Jacksonville, like a, like a gorgeous resort. For four or five hundred bucks a night in New York, you can stay in, like a midtown Marriott, you know, like kind of a standard, you know, businessy kind of hotel. And if you want something nice. Oh, boy.

[Buck Sexton]

Christmas season by our state, our station. This is like December 14th or whatever it was. I stayed in a hotel room where, I'm not kidding, I could touch the walls from the bed that I was in, both sides. Right. I mean, they barely could fit a bed in this room. I believe producer Ali was the cheapest room that they could find in the vicinity of our hotel. Wasn't that room like $800, Ali, $800 a night? One night for a room that I could. When I laid on the bed, I could touch the wall on both sides. And, and it's because one there is the immigrant angle, the other angle, which almost no one talks about. They killed Airbnb in New York City.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

Right. So they had a ton of people out there who were helping to pay their rents by renting out their places. And by the way, I actually am kind of legal. Oh, really?

[Clay Travis]

I'm, I'm, I'm pretty supportive of the, of the Airbnb restrictions in New York City, just. Oh, you are? I am, yeah. Because.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, you don't want to live next door to somebody who's renting their place out all the time. Yeah, I get that.

[Clay Travis]

People, it's. And the people move into these buildings and they're, you know, there are rules, there are contracts, they agree to things. And one of the things in a lot of these buildings. And it's true in a lot of cities, right? It's true. Like your community association, you agree to certain rules, and the rules are for the benefit of everybody. If someone is using their air, their, you know, one bedroom apartment as like an sro, a single room occupancy hotel, which used to have a very bad rap from the bad days of New York City when they were like drug dens and stuff like that, that causes problems to the rest of the. Of the tenants on the floor. I know, I have a friend, I know somebody who, in New York, his building went back and found all of the postings for Airbnb and everything and sued him for all of it and won. So they take this stuff very seriously.

[Buck Sexton]

I am, I do think it's an interim. I sound like Gavin Newsom now. I do think it's a real debate that should be had because I totally understand the idea. And evidently it's become a huge issue in many different primary tourist locations around the country.

[Clay Travis]

You.

[Buck Sexton]

No one wants to live full time next to a house that is being rented out on Airbnb.

[Clay Travis]

In the case, in the case of New York, I'm really actually just pro. A building or a community can say you can't do this and can drop the hammer if you do it. I actually, I think in the city of New York, they've just decided that unless you can't 30 day. Unless it's a 30 day rental. It's a regulation that I'm a little more aligned, I think, with, with how you see it too. But I absolutely believe if you move into a building and you say, and you sign things that say that this is your primary home and you're not renting it out, you can't rent it out because it's, you know, you've agreed to a contract on entry into that community. Look, we just, Clay, we. Well, I'm now a homeowner for the first time, but I'm. Some of you are going to laugh. This stuff, you got to dig. Some of you have lawns. I don't even know what that's like. The homeowners association, they, they lay down the law sometimes on little things. You'd be surprised.

[Buck Sexton]

It is. Yes. That at the homeowners associations in America, there's many people out there listening right now that are ready to pull their hair out over whatever disputes are going on there. I do think, though, whatever you think about the Airbnb regulations in New York City and the fact that illegals have filled up a lot of the hotel.

[Clay Travis]

Rooms, it's about 20%. So it's. You can just take a, just a rough figure would be hotels are all about 20% more expensive. They would otherwise be.

[Buck Sexton]

I think it gives you a real good examination of basic market economics.

[Clay Travis]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

If you eliminated illegal immigrants from the housing market in New York City and only people who were legally in the United States or yes. Look on temporary visas, like all those things. Right. The cost for the average property, I believe, in New York City would plummet tremendously. And I think it's true in many different parts of America where housing costs have become prohibitive. And it doesn't take a big city for that reality to be. I mean, it's basic Economics. I think JD Vance said this in the debate and the host was like, well, what do you base that on? There's 20 million illegals here. If we took the 20 million illegals out, that is 20 million new properties, residences, apartments, places to live, that would be in the marketplace, which wouldn't have as much demand, which would lower the overall cost, I would think, substantially across the board.

[Clay Travis]

One of the, it was one of the more brilliant policies. And look, Governor Abbott of Texas does not, I think, get as much credit as he should for this, or people don't think about him enough in this regard. Taking illegals and saying, you know what, let's send you right to a sanctuary jurisdiction. And they, they say they want you. We're just helping out because in the context of New York, it's a big enough city that had enough of a concentration of these illegals that you could really see the economic impact. You could really see when they were telling, you know, middle class neighborhoods of Queens, we're shutting down your local high school, you know, soccer fields or whatever so we can house these illegals. You can really see that 30% of emergency room visits were from these migrants who were getting just all of their health care in emergency rooms. Like, you can see this reality and realize, hold on a second. If that's from 100,000 people in New York City or 150,000, whatever the number ended up being, what does 20 million do nationwide? Ah. And you know, I got it. Look, there's a congresswoman down here, Salazar, I saw her. And you know, she represents a heavily Latino South Florida constituency. And I love my South Florida Venezuelan and Cuban Americans, they're fantastic people. But illegal's gotta go. And she's playing this whole game of, oh, but we need dignity for people. Not amnesty, but dignity. No, she means amnesty, actually. She should just. She should just say what she. I think she's actually my congresswoman. She should just say, I want amnesty for people who have been here for more than five years who are illegal. Like, let's have a conversation like adults. I would disagree with that, obviously, but don't give me this thing of I'm fighting for dignity for people. What does that mean? That's like the Gavin Newsom thing. Clay, Clay, hold on a second. Clay. I hear exactly the perspective you're bringing to this critical. It's like, what does that mean? It means nothing.

[Buck Sexton]

You're eight year old, Gavin. Do you think eight year olds should be able to have their genitals chopped off? I totally get the interest. I mean, I'm just like, how is this real? The answer is no. No. 8 year olds should not be able to have their genitals.

[Clay Travis]

This is an easy question, A big a big no. But he's like, yeah. He's like. You know, when you ask these questions, it just reminds me of how smart you are and how we can all be friends until I'm president and then I'll destroy everything you've ever loved or held dear. All right. Making our nation's economy grow again like it was during President Trump's first term is a huge priority. So we're telling you every day the good things going on here. We're not a gloom and doom show. Oh, catastrophe. Trump's got this economy. It's going well, but that's the overall economy for 350 million people and we still have $37 trillion in debt. We still have major challenges, structural challenges that are going to cause issues for your savings in the bank and for the value of the dollar. The value of the dollar last decade has declined substantially. You can just check this out yourself. How can you take action for you not wait around for someone else to help you out from the government side of things? How can you take action to protect your savings? Gold and the Birch Gold Group is who I trust. Gold has increased 40% in value over the last year. And central banks from around the world, a lot of the big central banks are stocking up on gold in record quantities because they know with all the money printing and the crypto and all the stuff going on, real assets matter to them, physical assets. And physical gold matters should matter to you too. It certainly matters to me. Birch Gold makes owning physical gold very easy. And this is great. By the way, they can easily convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold. That's really cool. Great way to just set it and forget it. In that old IRA or 401k. Look at the value. Do a Google search value of gold over the last 30 years and look at that graph and tell me what has gold been doing? Go to right now the Birch Gold Group by texting my name Buck. Text buck to 9898 98. Birch Gold will send you a free info kit. They got an A plus rating with a better Business Bureau. Tens of thousands of happy customers. Text my Name Buck to 989898 today.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Clay have you heard of the Rio Reset?

[Buck Sexton]

Sounds like a trendy new workout buck.

[Clay Travis]

It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name is Brilliant brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, but they've just added five new members.

[Buck Sexton]

Smart move to stick with brics. We know what happens when acronyms don't end, they confuse everyone.

[Clay Travis]

Well that's an understatement. BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

[Buck Sexton]

Now that sounds like the plotline of a movie. I'm listening.

[Clay Travis]

Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metals specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.

[Buck Sexton]

Can he give us some inside intel?

[Clay Travis]

Absolutely. He's been there since day one. In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the US Dollar in global trade.

[Buck Sexton]

Yikes. That doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip on the line, stat.

[Clay Travis]

Already did. And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message. The world is moving on from the dollar.

[Buck Sexton]

Quietly but steadily.

[Clay Travis]

These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade, and the US Dollar.

[Buck Sexton]

Is no longer the centerpiece.

[Clay Travis]

That shift doesn't happen overnight, but make.

[Buck Sexton]

No mistake, it's already begun.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. By the way, I want to say thank you to everybody who is subscribing to the YouTube channel. We talked about this, by the way, as a good way to help introduce your kids or grandkids if they're not in the car listening to the radio show. If they don't listen to radio very much. Any way, several thousand of you have already gone and subscribed. We will have some sort of signature event. I don't know what that means. When we had a hundred thousand, which is what I want us to hit, we are over 80,000. You can search us out on YouTube and I think that you will find that you are able to share some of the clips that we have on this program with your kids, and they may pay more attention there.

[Clay Travis]

We.

[Buck Sexton]

We get over.

[Clay Travis]

We get over 90,000. Okay. Which would be another 10,000. Where we are. We get over 90,000, I'm gonna have to. I'll do the puppy and the baby on the video. All right. We'll do puppy and baby Combo two for one. So if you're the. For the dog people, you'll get a cute little fluffy dog. And for the baby people, which hopefully all of you cute. A cute baby.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, for sure. All right, let me dive in here, Buck. All Star Game. You may not even really remember this because I think it was early in when we were starting the show. Might have even been right before we started the show. Major League Baseball pulled the All Star Game out of Atlanta. We talked about this yesterday with Governor Brian Kemp because they said that Stacy Abrams and Joe Biden were right and that Jim Crow 2.0, actually Jim Eagle was what it was described as was necessary and they were not allowing minorities to vote. And it's been proven to be 100% not true because the number of voters grew in 2022 and the number of voters grew in 2024 and all the state of Georgia did was strengthen the overall elections. So a reporter decided that she was going to ask a question of the straight sports event that was going on yesterday, the All Star Game preview. And this is absolutely bonkers. But I want to play this for all of you. This was a mask wearing. So mask wearing reporter to this day, far left wing reporter covering sports, someone named Jen Ramos Eisenhower writes for a website called Defector. And this person decided that they were going to take over an All Star Game press conference with this question. Buck, get ready.

[Pat McAfee]

There is a law on the books here in Atlanta that is a voter suppression law that, that Joe Biden has called Jim crow of the 21st century. Dave, in 2021 MLB Network Special, you said it's about being relentless with our voices and speaking up. And this is not an isolated moment and it needs to be something talked about on an ongoing basis and being relentless with it. What happened to being relentless with our voices? And why are we in Atlanta when this law is still on the books? And it is a dangerous situation to be a journalist in Atlanta because Atlanta has detained the most journalists by ice.

[Clay Travis]

Respect and appreciate the way you feel about it. And I would assume that there was a reason or some conversation that was had by the MLB and the state that all parties thought that this would be a wonderful host city for the All Star Game. And I think everybody is all very excited to be back in the beautiful city of Atlanta.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, so that was Pat McAfee trying to answer the question that was the host of the event. He works at espn. Can you believe that is an All Star press conference? Buck, All Star Game for Major League Baseball and this crazy left Winger says, how are we here when ICE is arresting journalists? And how in the world can you play a game here when basically this Jim Crow law, which has not. Which has been proven to be a lie. It is not decreased voting. Actually voting has increased substantially. I know I have blown your mind several times about sports media and how left wing they are. Can you believe that was the second question at the Major League Baseball All Star Game event yesterday?

[Clay Travis]

Okay, so I'm. I'm just confused a little bit. Where was this person? What publication was she from?

[Buck Sexton]

Do we know something? Yeah. Outkick has a story because they dove in to figure out, like, who is this person? That person is a writer for a website called Defector. She showed up, which I guess does some sports. I don't know how they got credentialed, candidly, but I guess they do some sport. And that person has a. Wore a mask. So this is not. Some people out there are saying, hey, and I'm one of them. Major League Baseball should have to issue a public apology to the state of Georgia, to. To the city of Atlanta, Braves fans for pulling the game out under false pretenses. Right. They were wrong and they've never acknowledged it. But that's not. This. This is. Hey, this was the right decision. Why are you guys back here? And, oh, by the way, how can you even come here when journalists are being arrested by ice?

[Clay Travis]

Well, imagine if you Imagine if you banned Atlanta from holding sporting events and then open yourself up to the fact that Atlantis is a. As a city I believe, is about 50% black.

[Buck Sexton]

It's a majority black city. So you're actually harming black people here when you don't have big events in the city. You're so.

[Clay Travis]

So the theory among the left or among some of these, this journalist or whatever. This must be an idea that's out there, is let's punish a great American city that is also majority black. And. But we will punish the city because it is. The state of Georgia is racist. That's where we are. We're gonna hurt Atlanta, which is a great city, which is a majority black city. We're gonna hurt Atlanta because we want to show that we disagree with the law in the state of Georgia. Like, I don't even know how that holds together. I mean, put aside that the whole thing is absurd and that actually there's been greater black voter turnout than ever before, and there is no voter suppression law in Georgia, and that's all a lie, and the statistics show that. But this is. You know, Clay, some people Just want to be mad about things. And I guess this, this journalist had a mask on. Did you tell me that too?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, she had a mask on. And Ali I Defector is an employee owned sports and culture website brought to you by the former staffers of Deadspin.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, that is the.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay.

[Clay Travis]

Communist. Evil communist. She's an evil communist. Deadspin. Evil communist. I know you used to work there, right?

[Buck Sexton]

I was. But well, back in the day for this is taking people back into the history of the Internet. Back in like 0809, when I was there, Deadspin was just kind of a bro culture website. Like, hey, let's have fun. Let's kind of laugh about sports. Their trajectory from sports are fun. Let's laugh about them and like them. More to now, this defector site, which is a spin off of Deadspin to we're going to send an employee in a mask because she's worried about COVID I guess to grill Major League Baseball about. I mean, there are so many people whose brains have been broken. That this could be allowed to have occurred is actually, it's a fascinating story to kind of look at the way they took over the culture of sport through sports media members who are far more left wing than the average fan and allowed those sports media members to terrorize so many people from speaking out that we really got to the point where dudes are winning women's championships. I don't think it's coincidental that they tried to take over the culture and they're still trying.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, look, just to be clear, I also could tell stories here. Do you know that the Huffington Post. Because the media landscape was very different. You were saying Deadspin was different. You were there, right? You know that HuffPost Live used to invite me on.

[Buck Sexton]

It doesn't surprise me.

[Clay Travis]

Live as a conservative. It happened a couple of times because they thought I. They were like, they're like, well, you're. You may be a conservative, but you're smart. That was always the backhanded thing they would say to me. Like the different hosts that would have me on. And I was like, well, a lot of us are smart. I think we're smarter than you guys are. But anyway, put that aside. HuffPost Live, do you remember the site Mike m I c mike.com I probably.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I do vaguely. I do vaguely. I do vaguely remember that site. They.

[Clay Travis]

They brought me in because they wanted alternate voices and they talked to me about writing a column for them. This is like again, this would have been when you were where Were you dead spend. You were 2011 or something or 2010 or how far back?

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, even, even younger. I mean the site launched, I think I was there in like 08. I was very early in my 20s.

[Clay Travis]

So I'm saying when I, when I started doing this stuff, which was 2011, even I was like, HuffPost wanted to talk to me. Mike.com I remember they asked me for my thoughts on police violence. Like what would you run on police violence? And there this was the early for it was the early days of Ferguson. So maybe this was like 2012 and. Or 2011, I can't remember now. And I was like, you guys, I remember being there. I never ended up writing anything for them. I remember just thinking, I was like, you guys are insane.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

And they had all this venture capital funding and everything else. Like the people who work here are crazy. But there was this game of they would have alternate voices and things. The problem is when you let, and this is my real takeaway for all of you. You're like, why are you telling us this media history? No one needs to know. When you let any leftist into an entity, as I always say, it is like in nature an invasive species. They will, they will not just multiply, they will multiply and intentionally block out those who are not leftists. Right. So the problem with the European House sparrow, fun fact for all of you is that the European House sparrow not only is very hardy as it as a species, but also will destroy the eggs and the nests of other birds so that it will outcompete them in the area. If you let a leftist into your media organization or you let enough leftists get a toehold, they will take it over. This happened at cnn. They will take it over and make it completely insane.

[Buck Sexton]

Totally correct. And this is something I've been thinking about a lot because to your point, the culture used to not be like this. And I'm hoping that we're going to come out of it and return. But I think the only way we can do that is by ridiculing stories like these and making it so clear where, look, if this person wants to share her opinion, then write her opinion. But what she's trying to do is launder her opinion through more famous people and hold their feet to the fire and make them attached to her opinion. Right? My opinion, I'm speaking as if I was this crazy chick. My opinion is that Atlanta should never be able to host the All Star game because they passed this voting bill and also because journalists aren't safe because ICE is going to arrest them. Okay. Write that opinion. Don't ask people who are famous to endorse your opinion and turn. Does that make sense? It's agenda journalism and I think people see it now. But this has been building for a decade or more and the goal I think is quite clear. It's to try to take over big parts of culture and mold them in your direction as opposed to just let people be normal. So I wanted to play that for you because I heard it and even I was like, oh, the second question at the Major League Baseball All Star Game.

[Clay Travis]

But you all, you also ask yourself, what is, what does this person even want? So this is what I meant by you're going to punish Atlanta. Yeah. No.

[Buck Sexton]

The tangible result of what her position would be would be that a majority black city is not able to host a big sporting event.

[Clay Travis]

Huge. Sure to take, take money out of the hands of black business owners in a great American city because you're a misanthrope or a malcontent who just doesn't want to ever be celebrating anything. You're at a sports conference, for heaven's sakes.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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