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Christina Quinn
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show We've got a bunch to dive into. Hunter Biden these quotes, I can't believe that they are real. We're going to have some fun with them. But I wanted to tell you guys I love this. The YouTube channel is on fire. And you know, this is interesting. More people now watch video on YouTube than watch video on Netflix, than watch video on Disney watch than watch video on television. So I mean basically YouTube has taken over video in America and Buck has put out a challenge to you guys that if you can get us to 90,000 subscribers, he will do a video with Ginger, his lovely dog and their chubby baby. And if you like chubby babies, I mean their three month old Speed has unbelievable chubby baby pictures up right now. I think they were maybe up@clayandbuck.com but it is pretty outstanding. But we have added thousands of subscribers and I think this, I don't even know if Buck has seen these. I was playing around. I like to go just look at the data points publicly I knew that YouTube was exploding. I knew that we needed to be over a hundred thousand subscribers there at a minimum. And by the way, as I talk to you right now, 82 and a half thousand subscribers. So I want this over a hundred. But the impact here is already pretty, pretty stellar. And I don't even know if you saw this Buck. Two of the videos that we put up on Friday as, as the YouTube audience grows. It's just a younger, more dynamic argument culturally that we can continue to have an impact a lot of different generations. Our discussion of Tulsi Gabbard about the declassification bombshell. 61,000 views on YouTube on Friday. That is one of the biggest videos we've ever had on YouTube. And then Colbert getting canceled, 30,000 views. Those just went up on Friday. Two of the biggest videos that we have had there. I want you guys to make this Show Pop on YouTube like it pops everywhere else. And by the way, you can stream it. I am told that I look ridiculous right now. I look like Kramer because for some reason my white Crockett coffee T shirt is showing up and I look like basically Kramer after he went to the tanning bed. I am told, so if you want to be entertained, they actually asked me, hey, can you go check just during the commercial break, hey, can you go claim change shirts because you look too ridiculous in that white T shirt that you're in right now. I said no. This is an incentive for people to go subscribe at YouTube. You can see the video. I want us going over 100,000. Uh, but thank you for people who are watching these videos. And a big deal. Big. Basically everybody has their own television network now on YouTube. We want this show to be big there soon. In the months ahead, we're going to be able to put all three full hours up and you'll be able to watch the whole show on video. We love the 555 stations out there, but it's important to follow the audience. People now this is kind of crazy. People now watch videos of podcast more than they listen to podcasts. This evolution, I never, I'll be frank, I never saw it coming. I didn't think people were going to be sitting around watching videos of people having conversations that are primarily designed for audio. But this is where they are. They are wildly popular. So if you would search out Clay Travis, if you would search out the Buck Sexton show, I want you to drive those numbers. Over 100,000 subscribers and we're going to be doing more and more cool content for you there. Okay? Speaking of crazy content, we have got our good buddy Hunter Biden, AKA the smartest man that Joe Biden has ever known. He has now decided that he needs to weigh in on a huge variety of different topics. Here is a profanity laced rant about who's going to clean your hotel room? Who's going to wash your dishes? This is Hunter Biden. We've had to bleep it out. Hopefully we got all the bleeps interview that has just gone viral. Cut 29.
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Buck Sexton
Listen, all these Democrats say you have to talk about and realize that people are really upset about illegal immigration. You. How do you think your hotel room gets cleaned? How do you think you have food on your table? Who do you think washes your dishes? Who do you think does your garden? Who do you think is here by the sheer just grit and will that they figured out a way to get here because they thought that they could give themselves and their family a better chance. And he's somehow convinced all of us that these people are criminals.
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Clay Travis
Hunter Biden I really, first of all.
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Buck Sexton
He'S wait, hold on. You're not really giving him his due because if someone's going to know about breaking the law, it's Hunter Biden. So if someone's going to be sitting there talking about crime and getting away with it, I might add Hunter Biden Clay kind of has a PhD so maybe we should give him a little more leeway to talk about the capers that are being pulled off.
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Clay Travis
I can't believe some of these quotes. We're going to play some more of this audio but I do think it is instructive of where Democrat party arguments have gone. They have effectively argued, hey, who's going to be our slaves? Who's going to do these jobs that nobody else will do at low wages? And I think most Republicans just say, well, maybe you should pay Americans more to do those jobs. I've got a crazy idea and it may be totally irrational. Some of you may think that I'm bonkers for this idea. I think most rational Americans, if they feel like they are getting a fair wage for a job, will do it and maybe there should be a fair wage for some of these jobs and maybe Americans would come back in and do those jobs. Now look, I understand there are certain parts of the country where there just aren't enough people to do jobs. And I would also submit that maybe everybody doesn't have to live in New York City. Maybe everybody doesn't have to live in la. Maybe if the cost of living in a city is super high. There's actually a speaking of the Wall Street Journal is reading an article over the weekend. A lot of so called second tier cities are starting to explode in population because they're more affordable and the jobs are pretty good there. A lot of people for instance, leaving Atlanta and going to Greenville, South Carolina or Chattanooga, Tennessee, some people leaving Nashville, going to Huntsville, Alabama. Shouldn't we, shouldn't we encourage people to go to places where they can have a better quality of living? You don't all have to live in the exact same big cities and struggle to survive there. There's lots of good jobs all over the country. Find a place, go there. Raleigh, North Carolina is another one that has exploded in popularity and make a good living there. I mean this seems like kind of the basis of, of, of why we have 50 states. If you're not living in a good quality of life where you are right now, find somewhere else better.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I think if I were Advising anybody. I know we've got college age or recent college grad or just that age. Some of you didn't go to college, you didn't. Doing other things who are, who are listening. And it's a little bit like the advice I give people now about college, which I'm just going to say I didn't do this myself. I looked at the US News and World Report rankings based on the schools I went to, I visited them. But I had this mentality of you get into the highest ranked school you get into. Right. And I think that's the wrong mentality for the most part. A little different with law, with something like law school. Clay went to a fancy law school. If you're going to go to law school, go to a fancy one because it's very expensive and you know, but I, for undergrad, go where you want to go. Why am I saying this same thing about where you want to raise your family, Figure out where you actually want to be. I think it's. I think it's a Naval Ravikant quote. I said we gotta have him on sometime. I cite, I cite enough quotes from. I just think he's a brilliant guy. He. He says the two biggest decisions that will affect your life are where you live and who you marry. Yeah, bigger than Jobs come and go. Even careers come and go. You know, Clay and I were both doing totally different jobs before we got into media careers. You can switch who you marry, where you live, you know, or who you build your family with and where you choose to be. And America's got a ton of great places that you can build with the place around you. Right. I think it's very different when we were coming out of school as well, early 20s, if you wanted certain jobs, you had to be in certain places. You had to be in New York, you had to be in la, maybe Chicago, if the Midwest, you want a big law firm, you want a kind of, certain kind of financial job. That's all changed, man. You know, the only. One of the only good things about COVID is that it made a lot of people explore outside of their known universe within America of where they could live. And also it made remote work or mobile work, you know, jobs where you can go different places and, and travel more, I think, far more appealing and more normalized, if you will. So I think that's all, that's all to the good and, you know, high tax states, if you do the math. This is a conversation I've had with people. I've actually had this with friends of mine, particularly some. Some people who are my, like, little sister's age, so eight years younger than me. I've had this conversation with them about in recent years because they're now early 30s, and they're like, new York is so expensive. I'll have my. My sister and I have this conversation. New York's so expensive. And I say, yeah, now do 14% of your income every year for the next 20 years. Look at that number and then look at what that would be. If you just put it as Clay Finance, Clay, Gordon Gekko Clay. You put it in the S&P 500 in an ETF with low costs. Anybody can do this. It's about as easy as opening a bank account and see what that money's worth in 20 years. It's really tough to want to be in. In Massachusetts, California, New York to start out. I mean, it's. It's almost. Unless you have no choice. Unless, you know, I have to work at Goldman Sachs and I have to be in New York for it, whatever it may be.
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Clay Travis
I would. I. There is no. I. I've spent a lot of time in California. I've spent a decent amount of time in New York. They're fun to visit. I like a lot of the people who live there. There is a zero percent chance that I would give the government 15% of my income every year for the opportunity to live in New York, Chicago or LA or San Francisco or any other city. I just wouldn't do it. I don't understand if you have the choice, how you would choose to do that. And I think what Covid showed to a lot of people is there are incredible opportunities all over the country for people to move and be able to have a higher quality of life, a more affordable quality of life, better place to raise your kids, better place to live. And already, I mean, I get fed up about this already. I pay nearly 40% tax rate, even without talking about my property taxes and my. And my. I'm fortunate I live in Tennessee. I don't have state income taxes. I don't think we talk about enough about this. I do this show for five days, Monday and Tuesday. I do this show for the federal government. Think about how crazy that is. You, too. Both of us sit here every Monday, Tuesday, you hear us. Uncle Sam gets everything that we make. We just basically are working for the federal government on Monday and Tuesday. And a lot of you, I don't think people do the math and sit around and think about it. But wait a minute. On Monday, Tuesday however many days of the week you work, if you work five days, it's a good chance that about two of those days every, like you don't start making your own money till Wednesday. This is crazy. And it's just accepted because we've come to expect that the federal government's just going to take like a massive vacuum cleaner, huge percentages of our money that we're working for. Do I feel like my federal government is giving me such good returns that I should have to work for them every Monday and Tuesday or Thursday and Friday, however you want to classify it? No, I do not. And I think a lot of you out there, when you actually put it in that context, you know, you can put it in context of the months, how many of us, basically, I work for the government Monday to, sorry, January, February, March, April into May, like that doesn't seem very fair to me. So they take 15% more. Do I want to work for the state of New York for 15% of my daily time? No, I do not. Do I want to work for the state of California or the state of Illinois? No, I do not. I think a lot of Americans are getting fed up with it, but Gavin's so grateful.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, whenever you go to LA for doing sports stuff, you pay a little bit into the Gavin fund and he'll have you out for chardonnay. You know, he's just so pleased, so happy that you're paying into the giant black hole of California's finances. What was the deficit they ran this past is huge for a state?
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Clay Travis
Oh, billions and billions of dollars. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Christina Quinn
If you eat too many ultra processed foods, you could be starving your gut microbes and they'll get hangry. That's one of many things I learned after working on a new audio course about the gut microbiome. You can learn how to keep your gut happy by listening to Try this from the Washington Post I'm Christina Quinn. I host Try this. Dig in with me on practical advice for life's common challenges. Follow. Try this right now, wherever you're listening. Seriously, try it.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
We'Re going to dive into a Clay. I kind of want you because I voted for this.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, sure.
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Buck Sexton
Way to put it. I voted for this. I did. I wanted somebody who was going to come in and say this cultural Marxism, this Maoist cultural revolution that was really put in motion by the eight years of Obama, but continued during the presidency of Joe Biden. This turning our back on our history, rewriting history, feeling like we should all be, or at least some of us should be sorry for American history, all this. No, enough is enough. And I think that we reached our fill of that nonsense a long time ago. But here is a moment in time where I actually wasn't even expecting Trump to do this. I didn't know this was going to happen. He has said that it is time for the Washington Commanders to go back to the Redskins. He had a post on Truth Social. He said the Washington Whatevers should immediately change their name back to the Washington Redskins football team. There's a big clamoring for this. Likewise the Cleveland Indians, one of the six original baseball teams with a storied past. Our great Indian people in massive numbers want this to happen. Their heritage and prestige is systematically being taken away from them. Times are different now than they were three or four years ago. We are a country of passion and common sense. All Caps owners, get it done. Mr. Clay, is this going to get done? What do you make of this? What do you think of this? Is it possible? And what do the fans want? Take me through it.
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Clay Travis
So I put up a poll and I'm not saying that my audience is 100% representative of the average sports fan, but my poll showed 97% of my audience wanted the name to go back to Washington Redskins. And I asked the question and I think it's a good one. Is there anybody out there that even if they are super left leaning, where it would be 97,3 the other way, right? So let's presume Keith Olbermann put up this poll for his audience. I don't think 97% of his audience, even though they are super left wing, crazy, insane people, would vote, hey, keep the Washington commander's name. And I don't know that the team and New York, correct me if I'm wrong, has not commented on this yet. The Cleveland Indians did. And they said, we love the Guardians. And everybody listening in Cleveland right now is saying, no, we don't. This is a stupid name. We would much prefer that the Cleveland Indian name came back. But I would say that what is interesting to me about this is twofold. One, Trump is putting it on his shoulders and actually giving the team a little bit of a pass because he's saying, hey, if you want a brand new stadium on federal land in Washington D.C. and you want the federal government and the District of Columbia government to help you and provide hundreds of millions of dollars in financing, then one of the conditions associated with this is I think you should be the Redskins. Again, I don't dislike that. This is not somebody deciding to come into a private business and dictate how they do business. He's saying, hey, if you want the federal government's help to build a great new stadium in Washington D.C. then there are all sorts of conditions that the government as a partner in this negotiation would demand. Returning the name of Redskins, I think is a significant ask, but also a reasonable 1.2 this is, I think, symbolically important because I hinted at this when we went to break. I like to think of myself as a reasonable person. Now, some of you out there might say, you are crazy. You're not really okay? But I think in general I have my pulse on the average sports fan in America. I think I could sit down with them no matter where they're from and we could have a good conversation no matter what their background. Buck points out. And I do think it's true that if you are a college football fan, I feel like I could find common ground with you.
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Buck Sexton
He's not really a big hug guy, but if you like college football, just give him a hug when you see him. He's fine with it as long as you say you love a college football team, preferably sec. Maybe shake his hand if you're not an SEC fan, but if you love college football, you can definitely shake and just give him a hug if you like the sec, he's fine with it.
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Clay Travis
I think we speak a common language and for a long time I was of the opinion, hey, I'm so tired of the mascot argument. And I think this is the average guy and gal out there that I was reasonable and I said, okay, we'll give up Redskins, we'll give up Indians, we won't fight that hard over this. And it'll just put it to rest forever. And it never does. Because leftists aren't satisfied ever. They never sit back and say, hey, you know what? We're happy. And I would say this. Think about gay marriage. Whatever you think about gay marriage, I thought when gay marriage happened, okay, we've reached the logical extension of the left in America. There is nowhere else they can go. Instead, they weren't happy with that. They decided that men had to win women's championships because men are actually women and they decided that hey, also let's argue that if you don't accept someone else's changed gender, you're a bigot. And Buck is right here. I think if they could continue the advance it would move on to hey, it's unacceptable if you're a man and you don't want to sleep with a man pretending to be a woman because they're real women too. Chicks with are just normal chicks. And that was a bleep. I didn't say it. But that's kind of where we're headed. And so my point on this is the crazy just gets accelerated and there isn't a reasonable hey, okay, once and for all we've negotiated this like business people would and you say we're going to put this behind us now this is a negotiation. They keep asking for more. And so I think instead of giving them more culturally you have to take back what you already gave them and you have to draw the line and say we're not playing this game anymore.
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Buck Sexton
A lot of colleges have changed, particularly if they had anything that is Indian or Native American. Relate. A lot of colleges changed their mascot. Dartmouth. That's one of the worst examples of this I think just because they went from, they, they went from their Indian mascot to the big green. What is that? That's not a, that's. I don't even know what. What is the big green. It makes no sense. Yeah, the color, I mean it's, it's also, it makes no sense at all. I'm trying to see some of these other ones here. St. John's I actually had a St. John's Red Men starter jacket growing up just because I thought it was cool. And they changed that one to the Red Storm. UMass was the minute Men. And then they, they got rid of that. What's wrong with the minutemen? I mean naming things after colonials.
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Clay Travis
The colonials are gone. At George Washington, the colonial army was fighting against colonization and they decided cuz it had colonial in it, it had to go because people are too much of morons to even understand language these days. And frankly universities which should exist to educate morons aka 18 year olds. I'm still fired up about this. They changed the name to the GW Revolutionaries. And I don't think it's coincidental that the quad immediately got taken over by a bunch of crazy left wings radicals who want to say they, they put the cafe or however you pronounce it on George Washington statue in the center of campus. You can't hold an idiots.
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Buck Sexton
I didn't know about this one. Eastern Washington University used to be the mascot was the Savages. That's pretty. That's pretty. Pretty badass.
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Clay Travis
I mean, yes.
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Buck Sexton
You know, if you're. If you're on the team, if your team is called the Savages, I feel like you're getting fired up before you get out there on the field there. There's a lot of these. Elon University was the Fighting Christians, and they changed that. You can't even do that well.
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Clay Travis
I mean, there was pressure on Notre Dame, the Fighting Irish, which is one of the great mascots. And again, we just.
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Buck Sexton
That would be. That would be so. To me, the Fighting Irish, they. First of all, no Irish people are actually. No people of Irish descent are offended. The whole thing is absurd. A leprechaun. It's cute. It's funny. Until you see the leprechaun movies, which are actually terrifying with Warwick Davis, who, you know from Willow, which is a fun movie throwback. But the actual leprechaun movies, very. Have you ever seen them, Clay? Very unsettling. He's a mean little leprechaun. He's not nice.
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Clay Travis
The horror movie.
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Buck Sexton
Not nice. It's a horror movie. Some people are saying the meanest leprechaun. Don't see those. Don't. Don't let your kids see them either. But you see, the Fighting Irish is such a brand that I think it's safe because it's always about what's the brand value versus what's the outcry going to be. Same thing with Yale. As I've pointed out before, Elihu Yale was a slave trader. Yale University is named for a person named for a person who was enriching himself off of the slave trade. So, you know, in some ways, how much worse going to be in this? It's, you know, you own slaves. That's bad. Right? But if you're making money by making sure as many people as possible own slaves, you would think that would be pretty bad. But people go to Yale to say they go to Yale. They don't want to say they go to, you know, southeastern New Haven College of whatever. They want to say they go to Yale. And the Fighting Irish is a great nickname, and there's no reason why anybody should want that to be changed. As I pointed out, though, I was always waiting for the Vikings to come under heat.
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Christina Quinn
There's.
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Buck Sexton
The Vikings did a lot of. A lot of loot and pillage. A lot of nasty stuff went into. Actually the Irish. Monasteries looted Those bad things going on there. Vikings were not a bunch of cuddly guys with weird horned helmets on. That's also, by the way, a total anachronism. They never had horned helmets. That comes from opera. Anyway, Whole other thing. But, you know, this is something that finally Trump is saying. This is just crazy town. And whether the team switched back or not, I'm just glad, Clay, that someone's calling this out and saying that it doesn't have to be this way. We don't. We don't have to live our lives walking on eggshells because miserable libs demand it.
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Clay Travis
Here's a question for the history nerds out there. I have an argument that I think is accurate, but it feels to me like society at large is essentially saying everything that happened from about 2014 to 2022 was completely wrong.
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Buck Sexton
And.
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Clay Travis
And we're in the process of erasing all of it. Whether it's BLM protests, whether it was the response to Covid, whether it was the changing of the nicknames, whether it was Lia Thomas winning a women's swimming championship.
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Buck Sexton
This is the counter revolution. This is the Trump counter revolution to the Maoist insanity.
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Clay Travis
What is another American analogy of something like this happening? Because the 1960s is probably the easiest era.
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Buck Sexton
I was gonna probably Reaganism. Reaganism as a response to all the just degrading and anti American nonsensical radicalism of the late 60s and in. Through the 70s, the Vietnam era. I think Reaganism was the.
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Clay Travis
Was the response to that. But I would say there was actually some good, clearly that came out of the civil rights movement. Right. It's good that everybody who's an American citizen should be able to freely vote. Everybody. So what is good that came out of 2014-2022 that is a lasting legacy of you? Usually you have progress and people say, okay, that progress is good. And then it goes too far. Right? The pendulum swings too far. And you can go from, hey, we should have equal rights in America. Everyone should. That's an aspirational goal. But maybe, hey, you shouldn't define who gets into a school based on the color of your skin. That's swinging it too far. In other words, civil rights. Okay, great society, too much with. With. With lbj. What is the good? This is what I think is really kind of fascinating about this. What is something good that happened from 14 to 22? And I'm proliferation.
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Buck Sexton
The proliferation of police body cams, which is essentially the end of the anti cop and blm.
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Clay Travis
Oh, that's a good argument. That's a good argument.
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Buck Sexton
So unintentionally unintentional. But that. That consequence is real. The reason you don't see these huge anti cop protests the way is because the Internet and body camera footage and we see. Oh, I'm actually constantly amazed at how reasonable and even deferential police are in the face of a lot of aggression and disrespect. That's what you actually see when you pay attention to the reality of the video footage on these body cams. And, and the other thing is when there's somebody who's. When there's a cop who crosses the line, everyone hates that. Including, including cops. They don't want bad cops. They don't want cops who are hurting people when they're not supposed to. So, you know, there's nothing but upside on the body cams.
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Clay Travis
That's a great, it's a great point because BLM basically is getting. Has been destroyed because one, it led to way more death. Everything else. But every time they try to make a viral incident, if it's almost always you're like, man, the cops showed a lot of restraint there.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, right.
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Clay Travis
I mean, overwhelmingly, the person's name goes viral. Social media is like, by the way, what I would say all of this is connected to. And this is for future historians. I think it was. Everybody went crazy because of social media. I think that's the linchpin that under undergirds it all.
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Let's talk about the latest on Russia, gates, Russia, collusion, all that stuff for a sec. Cause there's some new news on this one. As we know, DNI Gabbard, whom I had a long conversation with when Clay and I were in D.C. clay was supposed to be part of that conversation, but he showed up in his timey Bahamas and his flip flops to the White House. And they said, excuse me, sir. Excuse me. No, just kidding. He didn't have his passport. Which I remember. Just so you know, I'm not like the guy who leaves his buddies behind in line at the nightclub. I actually asked the Director of National Intelligence, I said, can we go get Clay? He. He doesn't have his passport, but you can just wave him in, right? And she was like, they won't let me in without my passport. And I said, okay, well, in that case, you had.
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Clay Travis
I didn't have real id and then I didn't have my passport with me. And you had to have one or the other to be able to get in. Not just my regular driver's license. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
She said these rules do not. Do not get waived. Sorry. You know, we love Clay, but he can come back tomorrow or next time. So. But I long talk with Tulsi, what we talked about, off the record, but I asked her, I said, can I say that we hung out and talked for a while about, you know, what's going on in the country. So Tulsi has. Has a mandate within the director, within the intelligence community of cleaning up the mess. It is still a. I can put it this way, the brand. The brand perception of the intelligence Community went from post 9 11. Yeah, of course, huge failure. We get hit on 9 11. So there's that, there's that reality. But then there was a surge of people, including a lot of former military, including a lot of elite military units, special operators who were working hand in glove with the intelligence community to find these guys. Right? I mean it's CIA Seal Team 6, CIA Delta Force. I mean these units or you know, these entities were symbiotic overseas doing incredibly important work in the what I still believe we should just call the war on terror. We don't have a better name for it, the G what? And many of you served in the G what. And I thank you for your service. And I think that that unfortunately has gotten a little bit lost in the shuffle lately. People, I feel like our G what veterans, a lot of people in this country are moving on beyond what happened there. We should remember what they did and the sacrifices that they made. But I think Clay, the intelligence community, because of the Obama years and the weaponization of it against Trump specifically, has now become a broadly distrusted entity. The point where I was only there for GWOT years, I see, you know, I'll appear in some show or something, I'll be on Fox or one of our clips will go somewhere. People say, you can't trust this guy. He was CIA. I'm like, I remember when I was in CIA and we're trying to stop bin Laden from blowing up the next plane. And that was a real thing. Ok? So I don't know, but this is what happened. The people who ran the place decided that they were above the law and they were in a position to change election outcomes. Really. And I think that it should be remembered. And I'd give, I'd give my friend Ben Domenech, who's a Fox guy, I'd give him credit for this, for pointing this out on Twitter over the weekend. Somebody said, I don't know who it was. You know, they tried to use this Russia collusion thing to take Trump down. And Ben wrote they almost succeeded. I think people forget that. Now we see this in retrospect because that's absolutely correct. They almost, this almost worked. They almost used this trap completely successfully to destroy the Trump administration, destroy Trump and his family. So Tulsi Gabbard is now demanding that, that Cash Patel and Pam Bondi investigate Obama era DOJ officials. She says it's their responsibility, or rather they are responsible. Well, both, both Pam and Cash have this responsibility and these people from the Obama years are responsible. So Here we go. Here is. This is cut 14, team. And here's Tulsi laying out what she sees now with access to it all as the Director of National Intelligence play it.
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Christina Quinn
Creating this piece of manufactured intelligence that claims that Russia had helped Donald Trump get elected contradicted every other assessment that had been made previously in the months that leading up to the election that said exactly the opposite, that Russia neither had neither the intent nor the capability to try to, quote, unquote, hack the United States election for the Presidency of the United States. So the effect of what President Obama and his senior national security team did was subvert the will of the American people, undermining our Democratic Republic and enacting what would be essentially a years long couple against President Trump, who was duly elected by the American people.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so I think I speak for average American out there. Is anybody ever going to get arrested or charged for any of this? Because otherwise, yes, everything that Tulsi just said there I believe is true. I think all of the evidence out there is that the whole Russia collusion lie was manufactured. I think if you just look at basically what went on, they laundered this story through the New York Times and the Washington Post, which gave all of the reporters who wrote it Pulitzers for fundamentally untrue stories that were designed to destroy Trump's ability to be President of the United States for his first term. All of that, I think, is 100% true. I think that this is why there is so much blowback on the Epstein front. I think many people out there look at this and say, I've heard it all before. Nobody ever pays. Democrats indict Republicans like crazy. Perp, walk them everywhere, bankrupt them, sit them down, make them get their photos taken, whether you're the President of the United States, all the way down to a grandma who walked into the Capitol on January 6th and was using a selfie, a selfie stick to take pictures. Those people are all held accountable. They throw the entire book at them Democrats, unless they decide somebody's not useful, like Robert Menendez. Right. And they just toss him to the side. And then they got a new senator who they bring in instead. Basically, no Democrat ever suffers any consequences, no matter what crimes they break. Is anything going to happen from this?
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Buck Sexton
No.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. See that, that's where I think people.
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Buck Sexton
Get so frustrated, sorry to say. And I think that that's. People I know want. They want that to be untrue, what I said. And maybe, maybe it will be. But here's the. Here's the first thing that I would say ok, the only statute that I can think of like things like I don't even know if there is a federal statute for official misuse of position. That was something that I know there is actually because when I was CIA we had that right. Like if you, if you were, if you claimed and you use like your CIA identification to get out of like a speeding, you know, there were things where you couldn't just say like I'm CIA on a covert op. Like you can't stop official and you get fired. I mean obviously. So official misuse of position. But that's not a huge thing. Meaning you're not going to go to prison for a long time for that. Not going to go to prison at all. Conspiracy. Here's the thing about conspiracy because I think there is a there you could go for conspiracy charges here. Statutes five years. Statutes five years.
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Clay Travis
So what about leaking, what about leaking top secret information to the press?
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Buck Sexton
Statute is I think 10 on that.
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Clay Travis
So you're still a little bit potentially it's getting close. Depends still potentially be under that track down how the leaking happened.
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Buck Sexton
Those are but again those are very difficult cases approved. But yeah, I think the statute on those is 10, 10 years. So but so this is what I just want to break this down for everybody. What Trump is saying that they should be prosecuted. Ok, should be sure. Should have been definitely. How can they be under the system that we have. I don't see it. And now people I know, I understand. I'm going to get immediately with this. Treason. Treason has a specific federal definition. Treason is not just betraying your country in a general now it's used that way in conversation. But there is a specific federal statutory explanation of the charge of treason and I don't think you'll be able to get anywhere near that with these. With essentially a plot cooked up inside the intelligence community with the Obama administration running point on it, using the media to launder it and then putting it out there and then using the Justice Department to try to undermine from the inside the Trump administration. I just, I don't see what the statute would and so don't write in and tell me or Clay. They betrayed. Yeah, I know they betrayed the country. I Trump used to retweet me on this stuff all the time because I knew that they were lying about what's going on the intelligence community. They were lying about their use of Pfizer. They were lying. We know all of that here. What are you going to get them on now? What is the charge going to be what is the federal criminal indictment going to be against Comey? You know, name the people involved, what is it, Tell me what it is, and if it sounds reasonable, great. You know, then we'll have an answer. But I don't see it. And I wish that wasn't the case, but I'm just telling everybody what I know.
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Clay Travis
I think it would have to be leaking the documents to start the whole process. And that means you go after reporters. That means you go after the New York Times. That means you go after.
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Buck Sexton
Super complicated to do that, by the way, and causes all kinds of problems.
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Clay Travis
Those reporters will all scream, hey, we're, you know, we support the First Amendment. Like we're being attacked by the federal government. Sometimes they'll go to prison to avoid revealing sources.
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Buck Sexton
This is where I can remind everybody, people always, always say, no way. Clay, the Obama administration used the Espionage act not just more than any president before him. He used it more than every presidency before him combined.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, think about that. I just look at this and say it's particularly nasty because you're leaking classified documents which may not accurately reflect overall consensus view, and the reporters who report on it don't have access to all the countervailing opinions that might be inside of an agency. And they take it at face value. And then because it was anti Trump, they gave them all Pulitzer Prizes, remember, I don't think the Pulitzer has rescinded any of these reports, any of these awards. And they treated them as if they were heroes when all they were doing was laundering inaccurate information designed to destroy the Trump administration. It's actually nasty on a level that I am still incredibly frustrated about it. I think it ultimately destroyed the legitimacy of much of the reporting universe. And unless you get them for leaking classified documents, I think, unfortunately, this is just another case where we know many crimes were committed and there are no consequences for them. And I think a lot of people throw up their hands and say there is no law that holds Democrats accountable. Meanwhile, whether you're President Trump all the way down to, like I said, a grandma walking into the Capitol on January 6th, you get the book thrown at you, and meanwhile, Republicans do nothing, by and large, to Democrats in exchange.
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Buck Sexton
Right? Well, this is where you get into. So now, because again, I feel exactly where you are on this, there's this frustration. Our side always gets the book thrown at them, even for. And they always get away with it. Well, here's what they did. Remember, the Supreme Court had to weigh in on this. They treated obstruction as an official proceeding. I mean, they expanded this Definition of obstruction of an official proceeding. It was really meant to prevent people from destroying all the evidence in a federal criminal investigation. And they use this to go after J6 people. So what they do is really unconstitutionally expand a statute to go after their political enemies and ruin their lives. We could do that too. I mean, but that's what it would require is what I'm saying. If, if you're telling me we're going to use a real statute in good faith and approach it in this way, I don't see how you're going to get not only Comey sent to prison or anything like that. I don't even think he's going to. I don't even think I can bring a charge. I don't know what the charge is. Unless you want to just shoehorn something into it. Maybe some of you do, but that's, I think, what this would require.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, look, and the statute of limitations factors in here in a big way. And I get why all of you are frustrated because I feel like all these things are basically proven and then there are no consequences for them. And so everybody just throws up their hands and says, here we go again. Yes, they did something illegal. No, nothing happens to them.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Encourage you. Go subscribe. Subscribe to the YouTube channel. It's cool. Every time I ask you to do it, a lot of people go, I just want to get us over a hundred thousand subscribers which is a good number to kind of be on path towards. And you can get clips right now from the show, not the full show yet, but you can see me, you can see Buck and you can see a variety of different arguments and cases being made on a ton of different types of topics. And you can search out my name, Clay Travis. You can search out buck Sexton on YouTube, which is now the number one video watching app and basically location. Over 50% of people now put YouTube on their big screen televisions and just watch shows there. It's really kind of extraordinary. So we want you signed up as we get ready to, in the near future, we hope, have the full video version of the show. You'll be able to watch it as well as listen to it at your heart's content. And certainly if you're younger kids, grandkids, they're on YouTube and they're on TikTok. And that is where they get the vast majority of their news and the vast majority of their content. And so we want to be everywhere they are. Okay, Buck. I saw this and saw the connection between the two, and I think it actually ties in with the left's economic illiteracy. We talked about Colbert Guy's losing $40 million a year on his show. Show costs over a hundred million dollars a year. Um, he is being paid either 15 or 20 million dollars a year. And they announced that they're going to cancel it. And immediately Democrats are up in arms. Over the weekend, similar situation happens. WNBA All Star game is going on in Indianapolis. The girls in the WNBA that play on the teams the women walk out in, pay us what you owe us T shirts. Uh, the wnba, according to the New York Post, is on track to lose $40 million this year. That means if WNBA players were paid what they make, they would actually owe all of the owners around $250,000 each. That is, instead of being paid, they would actually need to pay the owners of the WNBA franchises $250,000 each. To me, the connection here is the WNBA is the most left wing, I think it's fair to say, sports organization in America right now. That is unfortunate because they're alienating a ton of the fan base that they suddenly have. But much like with Stephen Colbert, there is a belief in sort of fantasy economics that you should be paid vast sums of money even though you're making no money. And I think it ties in with the larger issues that Democrats have in general, because there used to be a lot of Democrats in positions of power that had some knowledge of basic economics, had worked largely in business, understood how capitalism works. Now you have a lot of AOCs, a lot of people out there who say, oh, when the news comes out that Amazon wants to locate a huge headquarters, I believe it was in Queens, you'll probably remember this better than I did Pacific location, they say, oh, we can't be giving all of these dollars away. And they don't even understand how tax abatements and tax credits work. They think that actual dollars of cash and taxpayer dollars are being given. And as a result, the job situation in many of these blue cities and blue states is deteriorating. You sent me over the weekend in an out burger. Their president is moving to where I live in Franklin, Tennessee. Now. My wife says all the time, hey, don't tell people how nice Franklin is getting too full. So you should never move here. It is awful.
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Buck Sexton
I have a friend out there who says that there are 15,000 apartment and housing units being built in the next five years in Franklin already. Something like.
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Clay Travis
Something like, really, we don't want you to come. It's awful. I don't know how anybody could ever have a good time here. I don't know how you could raise a family. We, you know, we're struggling as best we can to make do with what we have here in Franklin, Tennessee. But I did think it was interesting. She was specifically asked in that interview, why are you leaving California? She said, it just became too difficult. Now they still have offices in California, but they're opening up what's being called an east coast headquarters in Franklin, Tennessee, which is about 20 miles south of Nashville, for those of you who don't know the geography. And I do think this is starting to happen everywhere. And what connects all these stories is a inability to understand basic business how paychecks work, how people make money for the labor they produce. And I do think that it is making it incredibly difficult for Democrats to dig themselves out of the hole. Do you see that connection with Colbert and the wnba? It's like this fantastical world where you don't have to have any economic understanding of how your boss makes money and you just expect that money truly grows on trees.
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Buck Sexton
Well, yeah. And also, the Democrats took over a lot of corporations that were built over a very long time by people who were not communists. And whether it was infiltration through HR first and then the C suite later, when DEI concerns were directing a lot of hiring, even at the most senior levels, you have people who. It's a bit like the California situation where Gavin Newsom takes over a beautiful state that's incredibly rich, with a ton of people and says, I'm not screwing it up. Look at how rich and beautiful this place is. Well, yeah, but everything you're doing is making it worse. It's true of companies and media entities as well. A lot of these places, you know, 60 minutes people are saying is in trouble. There are A lot of these old media institutions that are. I don't even know who owns these things anymore. Right. There's all these mergers and they're moving around and. But what you find out is that news used to be. They used to go for news clause. I understand that a place like abc, they were just hoping it was revenue neutral. So they've always been something of a corporate hobby horse in some of these places. But there's a that's for the news only side of things. Late night shows used to be wildly profitable. Late night shows should be making. It should be cash cows. And what you're finding is that when people have more options and more choice and I also think even more familiarity with who these individuals are on these shows, what you find is that they can't justify these enormous salaries and these tremendous corporate expenditures. And the world where the Democrats can count on having total airway dominance handed to them like built in that world is evaporating very quickly. And that's a good thing. Finally now with the break, it actually was particularly bad for a while with the Internet because they had locked down the major Internet. Major Internet social media sites and you know, Netflix in these places are still pretty big problems. But Clay, we're seeing a change in the ability of. It's not even just Republican or conservatives, just sane voices to break through and they can't get away with the same kind of nonsense.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I love. So if you, I think I said this on the show last week. If you had told me when I was 14 years old or 13 years old, hey, you get to pick any media job in the world who have. I probably would have said, hey, sports center anchor or late night TV host. Because I thought, hey, those are two of the best jobs that are out there. Sports center anchor basically doesn't exist now because the. The highlights of sports are widely distributed. Nobody sits and watches it anymore.
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Buck Sexton
Was Keith Olbermann a good sports center anchor? I never watched it.
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Clay Travis
He was. Yeah, he and he and Dan Patrick. Back in the day I would wake up Buck, I would eat my cereal while I was getting ready to go off to school and I would have on Sports center because back in the day you might not know who won the late night games. And I would sit there and I would eat my cereal and I would just think, man, these guys are so funny. They're having such a good time. This is like the best job that's ever existed. Late night. I again, I understand every kid, including my own now the summers are completely packed. You have 168 different camps that your kids go to for a variety of sports or dance or whatever they're into. I just sat at home and I had this huge amount of time, didn't have a license yet and watched and read and I was just kind of on my own. And late night television, you still love it. But to me what's interesting is when you think about what late night television show happened and why the collapse in business occurred. Comedy specials are now everywhere. I remember back in the day we used to pass around like Eddie Murphy Raw or Eddie Murphy, you know, like the, the VHS cassette tapes of the relatively few people, people who got hbo, HBO specials. And you would watch them, but they weren't very common. And some people, some of you probably had cassette discs of, of old school, maybe CDs of old school comedy specials. It was not easy to get a comedy special. Now they're everywhere. You get on Netflix and there's trending comedy specials and you can watch any number of comics on any given night. And then the podcast long form interview has a lot of celebrities. Instead of sitting for five minute sort of lame interviews to promote their movies, they now do longer form interviews if they're reasonably intelligent people. There just is no late night TV audience. I think it could have existed probably for another decade if they hadn't gone political. But the entire concept of that show has been exploded and it now has gone into a, you know, a bunch of different pieces. And I do think that you're seeing a dynamic reordering of who people trust. And I think all that matters, my theory here is authenticity. Not expectation that you're going to agree with everybody, not expectation that you're going to have the exact same opinion on every issue, but just, hey, are they telling me something that is true? And I think the reason radio continues to have a lot of cogency is you can't fake it, cannot fake three hours a day of radio. For better or worse, we are what you think we would be. And that can be good or bad. But I think the late shows, they faked it a long time and as a result going super woke and getting blown up I, I think is fascinating. I think WNBA's got major issues with not understanding basic economics. Take it from someone with a law degree, you want to have a will or trust. If you're out there right now and you got younger kids or you got grandkids and you are already trying to deal with their disagreements, thinking about how Thanksgiving is going to be set up in a few months, not that far away now and you're worried about what might happen when you're gone with maybe your house, maybe your car, maybe it's just a couple bank accounts you got. And you know, maybe it's things that really matter to you that are family prized possessions that are inside of the house. You know your kids are going to fight over it. Why not go ahead and solve it once and for all and do a will and a trust. Buck and I both have wills and trusts done. We hope to be living for a very long time, but if we're not, we know where everything is going to go. It's super easy to do all you have to do. Very affordable. Go to trustandwill.com you don't need to hire a lawyer. Just go to the website trustandwill.com Clay they'll make it simple, affordable and the result will give you peace of mind. And right now you you'll get 20% off when you use my name Clay as the code. That is trustandwill.com clay experts on personalized trust and wills that will protect your legacy. Do it today. You'll be glad that you did. Trust and will.com clay that's trustandwill.com clay making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone's loving family freedom from T Mobile. We'll pay off four phones up to $3200 and give you four free phones, all on America's largest 5G network. Visit your local T Mobile location or learn more@t mobile.com familyfreedom up to $800 per line via virtual prepaid card typically takes 15 days. Free phones via 24 monthly bill credits with finance agreement eg iPhone16128 gigabyte $829.99 eligible trade in eg iPhone11 Pro for well qualified credits end and balance due if you pay off early or cancel contact T Mobile.
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