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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.
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Buck Sexton
It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name is brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
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Clay Travis
Smart move to stick with brics. We know what happens when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's an understatement. BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
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Clay Travis
Now that sounds like the plotline of a movie. I'm listening.
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Buck Sexton
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.
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Clay Travis
Can he give us some inside intel?
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Buck Sexton
Absolutely. He's been there since day one. In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
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Clay Travis
Yikes. That doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip on the line, stat.
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Buck Sexton
Already did. And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message.
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Clay Travis
The world is moving on from the dollar. Quietly but steadily. These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade. And the US Dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That shift doesn't happen overnight. But make no mistake, it's already begun.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome in edition. Clay chart Wednesday. Dang it. Dang it. Right off the top. Right off the top. I thought it was Thursday. I've been trying to set up a dinner with Julie Talbot, our boss, and I was thinking, oh, no, what day is it? What a rough start for me. Right off the top, it's Wednesday. It's Wednesday. For anybody out there that might have been like, oh, no. Buck's actually going to be out Thursday and Friday, so maybe that'll make it a little bit easier celebrating his dad's birthday. Congratulations. Happy birthday early to Mr. Sexton.
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Buck Sexton
And you see some photos posted, you'll see that, yes, the hair is genetic. He's got a great head of hair for 78.
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Clay Travis
I was about to say, as I said that, am I going to go over 2? Right off the top, is this a big surprise birthday celebration? And I was going to get the day wrong and blow the surprise all within the space of a minute, but I do not think that I managed to do that.
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Buck Sexton
Nope. Getting it done.
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Clay Travis
All right.
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Buck Sexton
Well done, sir. We got a big show to do. We got a big show. We're two radio professionals with a fantastic show to do, Clay.
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Clay Travis
And it's possible I'll even know what day it is by the time we Finish. All right. Bunch of things to get into here. Russiagate has exploded more of the internal documents released by Dni Tulsi Gabbard. We will discuss what we think is happening there. Tons of attention in Idaho, the courtroom where Brian Kohberger, this murderer of four innocent college kids, he agreed to plead guilty. It does not appear, unfortunately, we'll get into this a little bit, that he is going to explain anything about exactly what went on there. As part of his plea deal, he avoids the death penalty. But there does not seem to be any requirement that he address the families and explain the entirety of what went on with this story. It's an awful story. We've talked about it some over the past several years. The victim impact statements currently underway live on television, being covered on Fox News and other networks. So we will talk some about that case. Our friend Sunny Hostin at the View says that Stephen Colbert threat being fired threatens the Constitution. We will likely have some fun with the dumbest show on television.
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Buck Sexton
Can we? Producer Ali, you know, we never, we don't ever pitch ourselves for shows because, you know, people ask us because that's nice. Just reach out to whatever contact you can find at the View and say that Clay and Buck would love to come hang with the ladies one day. We gotta. We gotta offer this up. We gotta offer this up.
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Clay Travis
I would. It's the number one show that I would most like to go on because I think all of you would enjoy the fireworks that would ensue, especially because they have a live studio audience. But we start off with the continuing fallout. Obama issued a statement yesterday evening saying, I have no idea what Trump is talking about. Basically, I haven't done anything wrong. And I, I do think that we talked about this yesterday. And I am open to being told that I am wrong, as I always am. I've been married for 20 years. 800-282-2882. But my question for you guys is this. For people who want to weigh in, I believe that the 2016 Russia collusion lies definitely were intentional. I think they were built as a way to delegitimize Trump on taking office. I think the media took it and ran with it, hook, line and sinker. And in that mind, let me play this flashback just to take you back. For those of you who have forgotten to what 2017 television news sounded like. This is cut for Russia hacking the.
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Buck Sexton
Election to elect Trump, but is the end of our democracy. Votes were definitely affected.
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Clay Travis
Russia hacked the election to tilt it to Mr. Trump. The Russians defeated definitively hack the election.
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Producer
Russia did hack the election.
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Clay Travis
No doubt. The Russians hacked the election.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. Russia hacked the election back.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Russia hacked the election.
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Clay Travis
President elect Donald Trump still not sounding convinced that Russia hacked the election.
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Buck Sexton
If we find out that Donald Trump just theoretically was colluding with Russia while they were hacking the election, that is completely impeachable. This dossier alleged a conspiracy between the.
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Clay Travis
Trump campaign and the Russian effort to hack the election. The Director of National Intelligence, the head of the National Security Agency, the head of the FBI, all of these intelligence experts saying Russia hacked the election.
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Buck Sexton
The FBI, the CIA, the nsa, the former Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper. I mean, they've all said this. So to believe that that's wrong, you have to believe they're all involved in an elaborate conspiracy to get Donald Trump, which seems a little far fetched to me.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so they said that they hacked the election. They intentionally, as I said, they're so good about language because they'll say, well, there's a lot of ways that the election could be hacked. They hacked Hillary Clinton's cell phone. That doesn't mean that they hacked into the vote totals and changed them. That doesn't mean that hacked doesn't mean necessarily that they change the outcome of the election. Hacked is a broad verb that they are going to use aggressively here. Um, but I just, I think a lot of people, and Buck, you can sign on or sign off of this opinion. I think a lot of people are getting fired up believing that there are going to be major consequences. Now, what is it? Nine years after much of this happened, Eight years after much of this happened? And I'm just here to tell you, I don't think you're going to see charges of anybody in a position of power now, do you? Would you agree with that in general.
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Buck Sexton
That I've already said that from the beginning? I mean, this is, I don't. I keep asking friends of mine. I mean, I'll tell you this. I have spoken to MAGA lawyer friends of mine, not who work for the administration, but are as pro Trump as anybody. As pro Trump as any of you. Ok. I mean, I have a few, I have a few friends in particular, lawyers, and they are, wow, they love Trump. And I said, forget about what you should do for a second ethically here, whether you should bring the charge or not. Tell me how you could bring the charge.
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Clay Travis
I think that's the real question.
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Buck Sexton
Yep, that's what I keep coming to. And I've said deprivation of rights, but I think the statute on that may be a Problem, statute of limitations. I've said there's some others who say maybe seditious conspiracy. I think the statute on that could be a problem. And you have to look at these things. We have all these different tripwires, so to speak, that are in the system already. And you'd have to get around those to try to get any justice at the time. And as we've already discussed, look, I promise you, Barack Obama is not spending a minute in jail, nor is he even going to be prosecuted by any federal authority. That's not going to happen. Okay? So I wish that, you know, there had been justice, but there was not. I said this about Benghazi people, remember, oh, Hillary Clinton, she, she's going to go to prison. No, actually she ended up being the Democrat nominee after Benghazi. People got very mad at me, but I'm pretty good at seeing where this stuff is going. So, yes, Clay, you and I are in agreement that it is very unlikely. If we're wrong, we'll come on and say it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't know it, though. There's the political, and that's the other part of this. There's the political calculus, which I think also applies to all the Biden dementia cover up stuff. The political calculus is, wow, look at how dishonest these Democrats really were on Russia collusion. Part of the problem, Clay, I think, is for people like you and me who have been, who followed it for a long time previously, there's nothing that's going to come out that surprises me. If John Brennan as CIA director sent an email to the Obama principals, which would be the top people in the Obama cabinet, saying, hey, guys, Russia collusion's fake. But man, this is going to really mess up the Trump administration. I would say. Yeah, of course. I mean, there's not, there's nothing that can come out. I already know that that's what they were doing. So now you get to, will you have any proof of it? I mean, any criminal indictments? I think probably not, but it is good for people to know the extent of the con.
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Clay Travis
To me, we're basically writing a history book so that people can understand what actually happened. Let me ask you this. You've worked in intelligence a long time. Obama is now not using the word hacked, they're using the word manipulate. How many elections in the lives of everybody out there listening right now, do you think Russia or the Soviet Union or the ussr, whatever group you want to call them, has attempted to manipulate that have occurred in the United States My argument, I want to hear your. My argument would be every single one. They have tried to manipulate the outcome in some way of every election that has occurred in the lives of anybody out there listening. So the idea that they tried to turn this into an unprecedented level of Russian success and a Russian attempt, I just don't buy it. You don't think in the Cold War that Russia was trying to manipulate everything they could relating to American politics?
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Buck Sexton
No. The Soviet Union was funding. First of all, the Soviet Union was running communist spies at very high levels of the United States government. That is a fact. Another fact. Nixon was an anti communist hero. Stop believing the Watergate. You know, Deep Throat, oh my gosh, Woodward and Bernstein. Nixon's the worst person ever. Nixon was actually really good on anti Communism because there were absolutely high level communist penetrations of the United States government. And guess who they always were going to? Democrats. Guess where they were always finding sympathetic ears? Labor unions. Guess where they were always looking to exploit divisions in this country. Race politics. The Soviet Union was doing this for decades. And the thing is, it was always the Democrat Party that was the entry point for those communist manipulations of our system. So we don't get taught this in school, but the record is quite clear. The Venona project is quite clear. You can go check that one out. Secret for decades, letting us know how high level the secret program letting us know how high level the communist penetrations of the United States government were. So also go read Witness by Whitaker Chambers, a book that far more people should have read and be familiar with. So I throw all this out there, Clay, because yeah, of course there's efforts to involve, you know, think of all the NGOs around the world. Think of all the different heads of state who weigh in publicly in the media saying they want this or that candidate in the United States. What happens all the time. So the idea that Russia had figured out some ingenious way to skew a multi billion dollar media, you know, media frenzy in this country in terms of the spending with 100 grand on Facebook is completely insane. But as I've said, it really is a, it's a lie of degree that they were engaged in. Right. So if I tell somebody, you know, Clay, if I tell somebody that I've poured a glass of boiling water in the ocean, I could say that I've, I've attempted to change the temperature of the ocean. That would be, that would be an honest statement. It's insane because you would never be able to register it, but you could say that there was an attempt made to change the temperature of the ocean. And that's essentially what they did with these Facebook ads and with the intelligence community review. They took something so insignificant that no person could think that it matters, or it would be like saying, clay, Clay, have you ever jaywalked? Have you ever jaywalked before, Clay?
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. So Clay has just admitted to breaking the law. Should I just refer to Clay Travis as a criminal from now on? I've also jaywalked. Should I refer to myself as a criminal from now on? It's a lie of degree, a lie of severity. And that's what they did with Russia collusion from the start.
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Clay Travis
Okay, So I think the significance here is you can correct the historic record. You can further delegitimize the legacy media who took this swill and treated it as if it were the honest truth. You could maybe investigate whether there were classified documents that were improperly leaked. We know that that is typically a very case to make. I think that ultimately, people out there who are expecting, hey, we're going to get Obama perp walked. We're going to get Hillary Clinton held accountable and arrested for her misdeeds, we're going to get Clapper Comey, whoever you want to point to in the larger intelligence community, I don't think any of them are going to get charged with crimes. Now, could I be wrong? Yes. You are open to tell me where I am wrong, but I don't want this to turn into a Lucy and Charlie Brown type situation. I don't want this to be the flip side of when every time a new story came out about Trump for the last decade, everybody on the left said, we've got him now. Oh, we finally got him. And he was always Charlie. I mean, they were always Charlie Brown running up and Lucy pulled away the football at the last possible moment.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, and then take. You can take it even a step further, Clay, with just the process problems. Let's say there's a statute they want to use and a prosecutor, we all know the old can indict a ham sandwich. Maybe a prosecutor will find some way to do this. You're going to bring the case. You have to bring the case in D.C. or else the whole thing will look incredibly rigged. You're going to get a D.C. jury to indict. First of all, Obama, totally off limits, was the president. That's not happening. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just lying to you. Okay, that's not happening. But even someone like John Brennan, you think a D.C. jury is going to say, yeah, let's throw this old guy in prison because he thought he was, I'm thinking from their perspective, he thought he was defending the republic by standing up to Donald Trump. You think any D.C. jury is going to. It's just not going to happen. So it's important to set the record straight. It's important the American people know because of the political questions at issue here. But legally speaking, I think there's a high hurdle. And if I'm wrong on this, you know, you can blame my nonexistent law degree.
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Clay Travis
Well, if I'm wrong on it, you can definitely blame, blame my law degree in person. But I think you're 100% right. There's no way they're going to indict in the District, the District of Columbia, in Democrat officials. I mean, it's almost impossible, I think, on behalf of Trump. Could I be wrong?
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Buck Sexton
Sure.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back in to Clay and Bach. We are about to dive into the economy. But first, Producer Ali's birthday is tomorrow everybody to send in some nice birthday thoughts. Producer Ali, our executive producer keeps all the Clay and Buck trains running on time. Keeps the boys on the keeps the boys on the on the track. Make sure we don't get too crazy, make sure the guests are calling in when they're supposed to and all the other things. So happy early bird. I won't be here tomorrow so I want to say Happy early birthday to producer Ally and we also have some good things to talk about on the economy.
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Clay Travis
Clay.
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Buck Sexton
So I was going we do stock.
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Clay Travis
Market new record highs. As you know, I pretty much check the stock market constantly during the course of of the day and we're at new all time highs because of very positive economic news out there.
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Buck Sexton
I just think it's worth taking a moment to review some of the Trump economic decisions from this past six Months or so, Trump says we are getting shafted by the trade deals that we currently have. Everybody says. I say everybody in quotes. But you know what I mean? The consensus, the consensus, including a lot of people in the right say, oh, no, you can't do this. It's gonna. It's gonna create trade wars and there's gonna be a huge drop in the stock market and all these terrible things will happen. There's a momentary blip, if you will, in the stock market, drops a bit, comes back roaring back, and now it's higher than it's ever been. And on top of that, you've got some big trade deals that have gotten done that are going to affect the economy, are going to do things that I think will be really beneficial for the American people. You know, Trump, there's a lot, a lot of talk around some of these issues of, let's say, transparency and fighting back against the deep state. And that's all very important. But let's not lose sight of the fact that a fantastic Trump economy is one of the core promises. You know, we voted for this, right? We voted for a fantastic economy. And here you go, here he is announcing. This is cut 17, the trade deal that just got done with Japan, obviously a major economic powerhouse. Play 17.
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Unknown Speaker
They just signed the largest trade deal in history, I think maybe the largest deal in history with Japan, and that was done with Japan. They had their top people here, and we worked on it long and hard, and it's a great deal for everybody. I always say it has to be great for everybody. It's a great deal. A lot different from the deals in the past, I can tell you that. But we're doing really well as a country. We're strong. We have a lot of money flowing in. The tariffs are kicked in better than anybody other than me and a few of the people in the room thought could happen.
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Buck Sexton
So, Clay, it sets tariffs, reciprocal tariffs, at 15%, $550 billion Japan's going to invest in the United States. Auto tariffs on Tokyo, 15%. Like I said, a few other parts of this that you can look at more specifically, but basically, overall looks like a very good deal. Trump's certainly really excited about it, and I think it could have some positive impact on the economy. In addition to this, one of the things that the consensus kept saying was, it's going to raise your prices. And here's Scott Besant. He was on MSNBC this morning. Is that where this clip is from, guys? Because I was actually watching this in real time. I think that I just out that I was watching some Morning Joe this morning. I think I did, I think, I think I just let that slip on the air. I was, I was, I'm sorry. It happens. It's a habit. It's hard to break that habit. Here it is. 19 Play Scott Bessant, who pays the.
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Clay Travis
Tariffs is a choice. And what we've seen thus far is that the manufacturers are eating a substantial.
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Producer
Portion of the tariff and taking it.
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Clay Travis
Into their profit margins. So you might see, for instance, Toyota hasn't raised prices and they may choose to go for market share rather than raising prices.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, all these things that a lot of people said that Trump was wrong on doesn't look wrong yet.
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Clay Travis
Also reports that we're close to a trade deal with the EU that would be very favorable to the United States as well. I think one of the great stories that just kind of slid under the radar was that we actually had one of the first balanced budgets in years in June, the month that just passed. And we're on track to bring in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs. And right now there appears to be zero significant inflationary pressure related to it. And I saw a story this morning, let me give you, let me give a positive shout out again, Marjorie Taylor Greene, not going to agree with everybody on everything, but she has introduced a bill and team in New York. Make sure that I'm getting this 100% correct. That would eliminate capital gains taxes on the sell of your primary residence. One of the big challenges that the Trump team has recognized is the housing market is completely frozen in many respects because Biden's economic stewardship took us from two and a half, 3% mortgages almost overnight to 7%, a rapid raise the likes of which we haven't seen in a very long time. And I come back to it all the time because I think it's foundational in the economy right now that until rates back up to around 5%. A lot of you out there, in fact, you can flood my mentions right now and let me know if you bought a home and you have a 2 1/2% mortgage rate out there, you're never going to give it up, even if you've added kids, even if your kids have gone away to college because in order to sell your home, you have to pay capital gains tax and you would have to trade in potentially one low rate mortgage for a 7% mortgage. And Marjorie Taylor Greene, I think this is a really good idea. They're talking about eliminating capital gains taxes on your primary residence. Let me Give another shout out. Ron DeSantis is asking a question that I think is a really good question. Why should you have to pay property taxes every year when you buy a home? A lot of our taxes are just embedded and nobody goes back and ever looks at them and says, boy, does that really make sense. I mentioned yesterday on the program, I do the show Monday to Friday. The government gets every dollar I make Monday and Tuesday. I work for the United States government on Monday and Tuesday. Every day on this program, they get every dollar that I make. And a lot of you out there, whatever you do for a living, the government gets every dollar that you make on Monday and Tuesday too. Does that make sense like that? That's a lot. I'm working really hard for the federal government out there to take all the money that I make on Monday and Tuesday all year round the rest of my life. And a lot of you are paying 14% state income taxes in California or New York or Illinois. And a lot of you are paying huge property tax bills such that over half of your money goes to the government every year. I think we need to be dialing that back. The Trump tax cuts are helping, but we've also embedded a huge percentage of this. And if we could take away the capital gains tax on homes, I think it would help to free the housing market and make that more lubricated, easier to trade.
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Buck Sexton
There are some challenges in the housing market and specifically homeownership and first time homeowners and the barriers to homes, to buying homes. $435,000 according to the Wall Street Journal is the national median existing home price $435,000. Now if you look at the average household income, which I think in the US is was like 660, I think.
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Clay Travis
It'S up to like 70, 77. I mean again, household, how you define it, but an average household is about 73, 75k I think now.
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Buck Sexton
But you look at 70, let's say, let's say 70 ish thousand dollars a year average household income and you look at a $435,000 median price house with a interest rate of close to 7 6, 6.6 or something 6.8, depends on your credit score obviously and all that. It's really tough to buy a home. It's really tough for the average American right now to buy a house. And for the average American family to buy an average priced American home is a big challenge. Stephen Moore, well known economist, Wall Street Journal guy, friend of the Trump administration, he said something about this that I think is getting some attention. He's saying that there are a lot of boomers sitting on very expensive housing that they should sell. I'm just telling you what Stephen Moore is saying. This is cut 18, 18, play it.
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The one thing probably everybody at this table can agree on is we do have a housing problem in this country. And we need, you know, especially for people like I have two sons that are in their early 30s. That's about the time when people start talking about buying a house. They can't, they can't afford a house right now. Housing is so expensive. So this is one way you could maybe make housing more affordable, encourage older people to sell out. By the way, what I would do is I would index capital gains for inflation. Somebody who bought a house in the 70s for 100,000, that house probably worth what, $500,000 today? And most of that gain was just due to inflation. So we want to encourage people to sell their homes as they get older and free up housing for younger people.
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Clay Travis
Okay, this is important and I know it sounds like we're going into some nerd talk here when it comes to the economy, but I think Trump gets this.
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Buck Sexton
Housing cost matters to everybody. I think Clay, I think everyone sees this as a big challenge, a big, a big concern.
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Clay Travis
If you can, he said index capital gains when you sell your home. A lot of people, because this is the reality and I'm sure some of you have thought through this. He mentioned you buy a home in the 1970s for 100k. Let's say that house is worth 700k now, which is not crazy. You would owe capital gains tax if you sold it on some of that income in the middle. I think there's a five hundred thousand dollar wipeout. Right? But so if you die, your heirs take the home at the value that it is on that day. So instead of having to pay capital gains tax, they take it at, let's say that hundred thousand dollar house. Now we're 700k. Your heirs take it at 700k. Well, you out there living in that house might have thought, hey, you know what, it's time to sell. But I don't want to have to give the government capital gains tax on this. We should wipe out capital gains on primary residents. I think it would drastically improve the overall housing market. I think that people would buy and sell homes more freely. And I think it's a no brainer. I give credit to Marjorie Taylor Greene. I think it would help a lot of people. And by the way, we also need to get mortgage rates Back down to around 5%. I was looking at my mentions right after I said that, a bunch of you reached out, sent me messages, hopped in and said, clay, you just nailed me. I got a 2 1/2% mortgage. I just had another kid. Hey, my kid just left for college. Your family. Circumstances change. I need to be in a new school district. I can't afford to sell my home, potentially pay capital gains tax on it and take on a 7% mortgage. It's broken the housing market. The best thing we could do for the economy is fix it. This is where Trump is right about the Jerome Powell. We need to bring back down rates and start to balance out that crazy increase that we saw from around two and a half percent to seven.
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Buck Sexton
Or the other option is to. And I'm actually in favor of this in a lot of ways, especially in a lot of cities or in expensive suburbs. Around cities, you go for multi generational housing setup where if you have the space, you know, you get the grandparents living with the parents living with the kids or, you know, if you can. It depends on how much space we're talking about here. That's very common in some places in Europe. Now, Europe is far less wealthy per capita than America is, which I think people often forget about. Their fancy baguettes and espressos do not make up for the fact that Americans are far wealthier on average than all, really all major European countries. I should say, you know, if you have.
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Clay Travis
These places don't have air conditioning. This was an article in the Wall Street Journal this morning that how hot it is. They don't even have air conditioning.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, well, now, did you see there's. They're trying to say something about there's a, like thermal shock, but cold shock from air conditioning is bad for you. They're trying to say.
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Clay Travis
Oh, they said, yeah, 53 different.
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Buck Sexton
I'm like, we don't even want your stupid air conditioning. It is not necessary for us. No, no, no, Jacques, I'm sorry. You want the air conditioning, my man? Take the beret off. Let the air conditioning flow.
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Clay Travis
I don't hear very many Southerners who say, you know what, it's 100 degrees outside in July and August. You know what I'd really like? I like to feel it inside of my home. No, I'll take the. I'll take the air conditioning. I would argue air conditioning. Where does air? Is a good question is a fun debate. You're about to go off on vacation. We could save this sometime. Where does air conditioning rank on greatest inventions? Of all time, just in terms of improving the overall quality of life. You wouldn't live in Miami if air conditioning didn't exist. Zero percent chance.
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Buck Sexton
Zero chance. Well, this is why it wasn't. Miami wasn't a year round town until pretty recently.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Right. I mean it's got, it was really post World War II before that it was a place where people would go in the winter.
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Clay Travis
The whole south was revolutionized by air conditioning because otherwise it was too brutal. I know everybody's like, climate change, climate change. Yeah. Talk to your, my parents talk about how hot it was in the summer and you had to sleep outside in Tennessee. You know, it was, it didn't cool off very much.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
News and politics but also a little comic relief. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. We are waiting on Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky to join us. A lot of different stories we have been discussing. Tulsi Gabbard having a press conference right now to discuss the Russiagate documents that have been released. We need to get Tulsi on the program. Producer Ali Buck met with her recently. I would have except I didn't have the real ID so I couldn't get into the meeting which is very par for the course.
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Buck Sexton
Clay showed up at the Velvet Rope. He's like, come on, man, know Trump. And they were like, you're not on the list. Look at those flip flops.
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Clay Travis
I this is the only thing I've been turned away from for not having a real ID Now, I travel with my passport. I do have a passport, but for some reason the state of Tennessee licenses I would have to make an appointment and spend a whole day to get a star on my id So I haven't been willing to do it. But Buck met with Tulsi. We met with a bunch of people in the intelligence agencies under Trump. We will get Tulsi on the program again sometime in the future. And we are monitoring this press conference and we will glab grab a lot of the audio that she is sharing right now. Other news as we have talked about major trade deals being announced. And we now have been joined by Senator Rand Paul, who is with us. And Senator, appreciate you joining us. I'll just ask the big question right off the top. You got Tulsi Gabbard coming out with Russiagate. You have been documents that seem to show that the truth was known and not shared with the American public as it pertains to Russia's involvement in the 2016 election. You have been trying to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci accountable for a very long time over the lies that I think we believe he told under oath relating to Covid and American gain of function, research and all these things. I would say the number one question that Buck and I get on a regular basis is we see all the evidence. We believe that there is ample evidence there for charges to be brought. Yet all of these people in positions of power never have charges brought against them. They can find anybody who walked into the Capitol on January 6th and arrest them and throw the book at them. But if you're super powerful and you're on the left side of the political equation, nothing ever happens to you will anything. Are you as frustrated as our average listener would be over this?
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Producer
Yes. And, you know, I sense the frustration and I, you know, see some of the responses on our social media. What are you going to do? When are you going to arrest Fauci? People do have to realize I have no ability to arrest anyone, but the Department of Justice does. And I've done everything I can. I referred Fauci twice under Biden. I presumed they would ignore it. But now I have referred him most recently just in the last week, to the Trump Department of Justice. And there needs to be a hue and cry that he needs to be prosecuted. I think he clearly lied to Congress. The other thing is, is it would bring up his pardon. And then I think in court we need to have a test case to see if a auto pin signature is a valid pardon. I think there would be then in court the discussion of who ran the auto pin, who gave them the orders. You know, I think so far we know the person running the auto pen says some guy that worked for Joe Biden told him to do it. And ultimately you'd have to have the, you could essentially, I think, bring in the testimony of ultimately either the, the, you know, the president's wife or the President. It'd be hard to get them into court, but this would be a test case of whether that pardon holds.
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Buck Sexton
Senator Paul, always appreciate you being with us. I want to ask you about the Fed one. I know I think you want to get more of a look into the books at the Fed, but can you also speak to the, what is it, a $2 billion renovation that the Federal Reserve's Washington, D.C. headquarters has gotten? You know, I know in D.C. money has a whole different meaning, or lack of meaning, depending. But $2 billion for Reno, that's pretty pricey stuff. What's going on?
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Producer
Well, you know, the Federal Reserve doesn't even have congressional oversight as far as the power of the purse. They just print it up. They've got their own printing press and they spend whatever they feel like spending. And so they started out at 1.9 billion and they're 600 billion over. They're up to 2.5 billion. They're $600,000 or a 33% increase in, over, over, over the original estimate. But, you know, you want to talk about real money. The thing the Federal Reserve' now that offends me more than anything else is they are paying big banks in New York and around the world not to loan money. It's a program that started in 2009. They were paying banks, I got a quarter of a point or a half a point not to loan money. And it was, it was money, but it wasn't huge amounts. Now they're paying them 4.4% as of about a week or two ago, and that 4.4% equals $188 billion. And 40% of that money is going to foreign banks. So it's not only the Federal Reserve holds American debt, so we have to raise taxes to pay the Federal Reserve interest. They get our interest, then they're paying our interest back to big banks to tell them not to loan money. It's the craziest scam you've ever heard of. But it's real money now and there's nothing that unites the right and the left. It's when taxpayer money or government controlled money like this is going from the regular middle class to the very wealthy elite, not only of our country, but of the world.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to center Rand Paul of Kentucky. What did you think of Andy Beshear's Vogue photo shoot?
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Producer
You know, I think he's running for secretary of transportation. I think he really wants to be the next booted judge. So I think he's got a great shot at it.
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Clay Travis
I couldn't believe I was looking at these photos and I just thought to myself, who in Kentucky is thinking, hey, you know, I really want to see a Vogue photo shoot of the governor? And I, when I saw this, I was like, oh, I bet, because I remember you came on with this last time, said he's going to try to run for president. But I just look at this guy. He's one of the worst governors out there to do that, to sign off on the Vogue photo shoot. I couldn't believe it was real.
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Producer
Well, here's the real question. Did Vogue actually ask him about vetoing a bill that would have stopped sex change surgeries for minors? So our Republican legislature put before him a bill to no longer have minors, not allow minors to make a decision to have this permanent surgery, and he vetoed it. So our Republican legislature, proud of him, promptly overrode him. But this guy is not part of the mainstream. He's part of the extreme left. And he got lucky somehow to win in our state. But there's nothing about him that is moderate. He is as progressive as the day is long.
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Buck Sexton
Senator PAUL something that's gotten a bit of attention today has to do with the president's ability to get his appointees in place, particularly on the judiciary side. And when it comes to U.S. attorneys, as the Trump administration appointed Alina Haba, one of Trump's lawyers, to be the U.S. attorney in New Jersey, a U.S. attorney in New Jersey. Judges there decided Democrat appointed judges, no shock to anyone that she was unacceptable and they just picked someone else. Now that I understand is getting a bit specific into what's going on in New Jersey, but how is it going with Senate confirmation of various appointees and specifically for judicial nominees, because that's such a critical thing to be functioning efficiently. And I am hearing some complaints from people who, well, work right near you on Capitol Hill about Senate Leader Thune and not getting this thing done with the Efficiency and, you know, absolute sense of urgency that it needs to be done.
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Producer
You know, the good news is, is that we've actually approved twice as many as we had in 2017 when Trump won in 2017. By this time in the summer of that first year, we had approved about 55. I think we're up over 110. So it's a slow, laborious process, and the Democrats are worse than they've ever been in the sense that it typically and historically, the leadership would sit down from each party at the end of the week. They'd agree to a list of 10 or 15 that pass them all together in one group by voice vote. None of that happens anymore. So we have, like, 1500 Trump appointees. We've got to vote on them one at a time. Most of them, we have to wait two hours. We vote to get onto the bill to vote for them, and then two hours later to confirm them. And so it's laborious. But the good news is we've done twice as many as we did in 2017. So I think, given the Democrats opposition and obstruction, I think we're doing pretty well.
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Clay Travis
What should happen with the Russia gate? We've got Tulsi Gabbard having a press conference right now. You went through all of this in the attempt to delegitimize Trump's election in 2016. I said on the air, I actually think the 2020 actions that were done to try to argue from the 51 intelligence agents, the Hunter Biden laptops not releasing the fact that maybe we thought back then, hey, we've got a successful vaccine. There were a lot of things that could have been out publicly that could have swung this election a big way. I think 2020 was rigged substantially. But what should happen associated with 2016 in your mind, both practically and if you had an ideal world. Right, because there's the reality of what can happen and what should happen. How would you distinguish between those two?
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Producer
You know, I always look at things in general terms. I'm horrified by what they did to Donald Trump, and it should make everyone mad. But I'm also concerned about average, ordinary Americans and what they can do and what this power means could be done to average, ordinary Americans. So I'm protecting that power away. You know, some people want Brennan in jail, they want Obama in jail, and those things are unlikely to happen. But the one thing we could do as a Congress is take power away from the intelligence agencies. They should not have as much power. I have always thought, from the beginning, I've said It publicly, I believe that Brennan called foreign governments and used their intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. You remember these random meetings in the bar with different Trump campaign officials. I don't believe they were random. I think they were planned. And I think because it's illegal for our CIA to investigate Americans, much less Americans involved in politics, I think they got our allies in on it. And I think there is a massive cover up from the very beginning on this. I do think what she's pointing out, what Tulsi Gabbard has said is incredibly important. The assessment by all of the intelligence agencies after 2016 is that the Russians, like they always do, tried to mess with our elections, but that it was ineffectual, it was tiny, it was minute, it was some Facebook ads and did not affect the outcome. That was the conclusion. But then that conclusion was vetoed by Brennan and high ranking people because they chose to create a narrative that the election was stolen, that the election was illegitimate. Hillary Clinton said it, Jimmy Carter said it, all the leading Democrats said that Trump was an illegitimate president. And what they did is they then ceded information throughout all of government to try to start this narrative that there was a Russian collusion. One of the most bizarre parts of this is the Hillary Clinton campaign pays for the Steele dossier that has this so called incriminating information in it. They give it to our government, but then they also send Steel to Halifax, Nova Scotia to meet John McCain and secretly give him the file as well. He comes back to Washington, takes the bait, is all hysterical and then gives it back to government. But that's where it started. So the government commissioned Steele to go back. It starts with the Clinton campaign. This Christopher Steele, a former spy, collects all this nonsense, puts it in the folder, gives it to John McCain who breathlessly races back to Washington to help get the thing started. But this was a big psyops. This was a big operation by intelligence community and of course it was illegal. And I'm proud of Tulsi Gabbard for getting to the bottom of it. I hope she continues to overturn and expose this corruption.
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Buck Sexton
Transparency is incredibly important on this. So Senator Paul, we agree with you wholeheartedly on that. Do you think it is feasible, not even likely, but feasible that anybody could be put in handcuffs based on what they did with Russia collusion?
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Producer
You know, they'll all tell a different tale and you know, changing an intelligence report, they'll say they got other information. It's going to be hard to put anybody in jail on that. But the main thing I always look for in this is trying to fix the system so it doesn't happen again. So what we should conclude from this is intelligence agencies have the power to destroy individuals, and so there needs to be more checks and balances and less ability of an intelligence agency to investigate Americans. This goes along with the FISA database that they have, which a lot of Americans are sucked up into the system. It goes along with that Quiet Skies program where they were spying on Tulsi Gabbard when she was on planes. There's so much abuse, and nobody in Congress knows anything about what the intelligence agencies do other than to the Intelligence Committee in the Senate and the House. And they silo off information and they try to prevent any other members from knowing exactly what they're doing. Their budgets are secret. It's very like pulling teeth to get any kind of look at any of their budgets. So, yeah, there's too much power. And we went through this after J. Edgar Hoover, and he was using the power of the office to blackmail people. He was using the power of the office to illegally spy on people. And there were big reforms in the 70s, but since the 1970s, the reforms have worn off and the intelligence agencies have grown too strong again. What they did to Donald Trump should be a call, a clarion call, for us to reform them and strip back their power.
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Buck Sexton
Senator Rand Paul. Appreciate you making time for us, sir.
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Producer
On the real id. Clay, I got to tell you, if you stand in the line to get the chip put in, they can insert that chip in no time at all, and there's no line.
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Clay Travis
I don't even know what that means. I feel like this is a joke. You're so dead panning it there that.
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Producer
I was like, do you get another line? But no, it took me three months to get the damn real id and they kept refusing to give it to me because some of my documents said Randall and not Rand, and they weren't sure I was who I was presenting myself to be.
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Clay Travis
I. This drives me. You go in and out of Nashville like I do because you live in Kentucky, but this drives me absolutely bonkers. Appreciate the time.
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Producer
I hate it. I hate it. We fought it for years and years in Kentucky, and finally they take away your right to travel. Apparently, the right to travel is a privilege, and you can only travel under the government auspices. It's a step in the wrong direction.
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Clay Travis
Amen.
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Buck Sexton
All right, Senator Paul. Thank you so much, Clay. Also, that deadpan when I. I had no idea that was a joke.
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Clay Travis
Well, he got me. He's such a serious guy usually. He really got me because I was getting ready for you to read and I was like, implant what that was well played by Senator Paul Preborn.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
We got a ton of stuff popping. You just heard us with Senator Rand Paul Tulsi Gabbard at the White House briefing at the rostrum there beside Caroline Lever. Levitt said a couple of different things that I want to play for you. First, this is a 10 minute roughly discussion. So we're pulling a couple of minutes out of this. I just retweeted the full 10 minutes. I would encourage you guys to go watch the full 10 minutes for yourselves. And you can go to at Clay Travis on Twitter. You can find it. The Trump White House has shared it. But again, I always want you to listen to everything in totality. But here are two different cuts. Here is cut 31 irrefutable evidence that Barack Obama and his national security team knew that this evidence was false and directed its creation. This is cut 31 Tulsi Gabbard there.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help President Trump win, selling it to the American people as though it were true. It wasn't. The report that we released today shows in great detail how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources. They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards and withheld the truth from the American people. In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of the American people who elected Donald Trump in that election in November of 2016. They worked with their partners in the media to promote this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump and launching what would be a years long coup against him and his administration. We're here today because the American people deserve the truth.
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Clay Travis
Okay, how much smarter is Tulsi, by the way, than Kamala Harris? Remember when they were trying to decide who's going to be Biden's vp? Just think about that for a moment as I continue to play these cuts. I just want that in the back of your mind, these are explosive allegations.
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Buck Sexton
They made a big mistake on that one.
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Clay Travis
Oh, she might be President of the United States right now if they had chosen her as the VP and had to elevate her 25th amendment.
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Buck Sexton
Old Joe, I think possibly.
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Clay Travis
I think you're right too. Cause she's sharp, whatever you think of her. And remember she ran for president as a Democrat, which is why I think she's so effective here making this case. She ran in 2012, she was a Democrat for most of her life. Uh, here she is saying this is a big, big matzo ball here. They have referred all of this evidence to the Department of Justice that they believe Obama committed crimes. Cut 32.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Any of this new information implicates former President Obama in criminal behavior. We have referred and will continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this. The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact.
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Buck Sexton
Ok, OK Clay, so here's here, here's maybe where this goes. Now that I'm seeing them like, you know, hey, we're dealing with this in real time as it happens. They just, just whoever is on the same page here, criminal referrals to the DOJ about things like this happen all the time and nothing comes of them. Just remember that, especially about things like leaks. And a referral to the DOJ just means it's almost like a tip, hey, this is here.
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Clay Travis
We got this crime here. You should investigate it further.
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Buck Sexton
You know, but it's, it's very preliminary. Ok, so the referral is something, but it's a one step in a very long journey. But you could have Pam Bondi in, I don't know, a few weeks time, maybe sooner, whatever the timeline is, come forward and say the DOJ has substantial evidence of Barack Obama involved in what we believe was a suspicious, a seditious and suspicious, but a seditious conspiracy. However, we know the Supreme Court has established an immunity for Obama's official acts. So even though he was engaged in what we think at this stage was criminal. The department does not think it would be in the interest of the American people to go forward because prosecution would likely be impossible.
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Clay Travis
But you know, it'd be true.
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Buck Sexton
You get it all on the record, right? You get it all out there. Look, we think, we think Obama's a crook, but he was president, so we can't do anything about it.
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Clay Travis
Well, and that's going to frustrate people because it's basically what happened with Hillary. Right? We think that there was a crime, but we don't think we could prosecute. You also had basically Robert Hur say that about Biden's handling of the classified documents. This was criminal, but he's an old man with mush for brains and so we don't think a jury would convict him. Here are some other cuts. I would say these are landing like body blows. Cut 33. Tulsi saying this was a major disservice to the American people about Obama's statement.
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Tulsi Gabbard
I think it's a disservice to the American people that former President Obama's office and others who are criticizing the transparency that is being delivered by releasing these documents. They are doing a disservice to the American people and trying to deflect away from their culpability in what is a historic scandal and negative action towards the American people and our Democratic Republic. The answer to that statement can very clearly be found throughout all of the documents that we have released, again showing that Russia has took action, action to try to sow discord in the election, but showed no preference for or against any singular candidate.
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Clay Travis
In other words. And we're going to play this cut because I think it ties in. Russia was just a malefactor, right? They just wanted to make America weaker. They didn't particularly care how they weakened us, whether it was through Trump, whether it was from Hillary. And I would argue this is probably the most successful ever impact. Because what it's done is Russia has sown tremendous discord in America about our democratic processes because that's exactly what they would have wanted to do. Here. Tulsi is saying Russia believed that Hillary Clinton had significant emotional problems according to the documents they've uncovered. Here's cut 34.
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Tulsi Gabbard
They also had documents that showed the patronage of the State Department to State Department employees who would go and support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. There were high level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression and cheerfulness, and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on A daily regimen of heavy tranquilizers. Then CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence and relied on dubious substandard sources to create a contrived false narrative that Putin developed a quote, unquote, clear preference for Trump. Brennan and the IC misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked Steele dossier to assess, quote, unquote, Russia's plans and intentions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence value when he knew that it was discredited.
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Clay Travis
Okay, let's keep going here because there's a lot of bombshells and then we'll react to them here as the show continues. Here is Tulsi saying the details of this are far reaching and it's clear to her that a president manufactured a scandal to undermine the incoming administration. Cut 35.
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Tulsi Gabbard
This is a brief summary of the details that you'll find within the House majority staff's report in their investigation into The Obama directed January 2017 intelligence community assessment. That leads us to the very same conclusion that we announced in the release of our documents on Friday. The implications, implications of this are far reaching and have to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic. It has to do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture intelligence to undermine and usurp the will of the American people in that election and launch what would be a years long coup against the incoming president, United States, Donald Trump.
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Clay Travis
Okay, couple more cuts because there's a lot here you mentioned Buck, the possibility what would the charges look like? Treasonous conspiracy was one of the things that you referenced on the program. Cut 36 is, I believe, a discussion of that. Listen, the president, yesterday you've inferred that.
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Buck Sexton
The former president helped lead a coup.
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Producer
Based on what you now see, do.
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Buck Sexton
You believe President Obama is guilty of treason?
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Tulsi Gabbard
I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice. I am not an attorney, but as I have said previously, when you look at the intent behind creating a fake manufactured intelligence document that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created by the intelligence community. The expressed intent and what followed afterward can only be described as a years long coup and a treasonous conspiracy against the American people, our republic, and an attempt to undermine President Trump's administration.
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Buck Sexton
Whoa, whoa.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, that's big barrels.
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Buck Sexton
That's big time.
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Clay Travis
Now I want to play this too. You're all hearing this. I'm trying to play as much of what Tulsi said we are, so you can all hear it. What would happen if you were watching this on cnn? They cut away. This is Important because what you hear and what we hear is very different than what you might hear. If you watch cnn, msnbc, read the New York Times, the Washington Post, they're not getting told the full story, but I thought this was good. You're going to hear CNN say we got to cut away from this cut.
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Tulsi Gabbard
37 Multiple intelligence community assessments released in the months leading up to the November 2016 election concluded that Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of the US election on December 5th.
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Buck Sexton
We've been listening there to the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, continuing on.
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Clay Travis
What has now been a multi, multi.
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Buck Sexton
Day effort not only with public statements like this, but release of documents to attempt to back up the quite extreme allegation that President Obama is guilty of treason and that he worked in some sort of conspiracy with Hillary Clinton, etc, in the assessment by the intelligence community at the time that Russia interfered in the 2016 election. Okay, CNN was part of the conspiracy. Just to be clear, CNN was a co conspirator in the Russia collusion fabrication.
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Clay Travis
Not only that they gave them awards that they still have. All of them got Pulitzers at the New York Times, at the Washington Post. The media establishment not only got took, they actually went out there and said you're the sterling example of truth and speaking out to hold people accountable. They still have the Pulitzers. They haven't returned them. They got Pulitzers for a hundred percent fake news. They rewarded and awarded everyone who was involved in peddling these lies. This is big. Look, whatever you think, and again I am skeptical based on history, as we said off the top of the show, Buck 2, that there will actually be criminal charges brought here. I do think at a minimum this is rewriting in real time what many people believe about the 2016 election. And then again to me it connects to 2020 and whatever you think, how amazing does Tulsi sound? The clips that we played just right up there firing away, sharing all of these details. And I think it's particularly a sign of strength for Trump Trump that this is not a long time right wing ideologue who is making this case. It's a former Democrat, someone who ran for president against Trump in 2020, someone that Joe Biden supposedly considered as a vice presidential running mate. As soon as he said that I'm only gonna pick a woman. And I would just say whatever your politics. Can you imagine Kamala Harris trying to lay this out in any kind of understandable, coherent fashion? I can't. Just like Tulsi did, we'll talk about this more. By the way, Epstein News Obama appointed federal district court judge is refusing to release the grand jury transcripts from that case too, so he got breaking news everywhere. In the meantime, when it's time to be a responsible adult, guess what you need to do? Having a will and a trust. Something you do for the benefit of your loved ones. Your will becomes your voice when there's no will or trust left behind. Your estate can be tied up in probate for months longer. Your kids grandkids can end up fighting. You want to try to avoid that you do everything for them. Trust and will make the whole process smooth and affordable. End result to give you peace of mind now and your surviving family members can get clarity in the future. Website to get started, save 20% is trustinwill.com Clay they're experts in creating personalized trust and wills that protect your legacy. Visit trustandwill.com clay that's trustandwill.com clay keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast. Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app when or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Producer
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Clay Travis
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Tulsi Gabbard
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