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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Elaheii Zadi
Football is back.
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Bill O'Reilly
Let's go baby.
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Elaheii Zadi
On July 26th and 27th, teams across.
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Bill O'Reilly
The league take the field for Back.
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Elaheii Zadi
Together weekend presented by YouTube TV. With two full days of practices, player interviews and behind the scenes access, it's a can't miss NFL reunion. Back Together Weekend presented by YouTube TV. July 26th and 27th. Go to NFL.comBackTogetherWeekend for more information. When I listen to the news, here's what I wanna know. Why this story matters, who's at the center of it, and how the reporters uncovered it. And as a journalist, I wanna make sure that's what you get too. I'm Elaheii Zadi, co host of the podcast Post Reports. Every weekday my colleagues and I at the Washington Post give you the context you need on the biggest stories. Healthcare tariffs, artificial intelligence. We've got look for Post reports wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome in. Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Bucks out the rest of the week you'll have me solo as we roll through all of the major breaking news stories. And right off the top, I think Buck would have been just as sad about this news as I am. For any of us, particularly that grew up in the 80s and the 90s. Malcolm Jamal Warner from the Cosby Show. Theo dying earlier this week, but just in the last 30 minutes or so. TMZ reports that Hulk Hogan, 71 year old wrestling superstar who was at the RNC last year about this time endorsing President Trump, has died Again, age of 71 if you are of the age, as I know many of you are, who grew up in the 1980s watching wrestling or if you had kids that loved wrestling, maybe you did. Maybe you were a big Hulkamaniac back in the 1980s and the 1990s. I don't think there are very many people that were more famous than in America in the 80s and the 90s than Hulk Hogan, 71 years old. I want to play a couple of cuts of Hulk Hogan again. The news just coming down. Hulk Hogan dies at 71 years old. Here he was last year. We played some of these cuts for you. Very funny. For those of you who remember the speech. Cut 26, Hulk Hogan at the RNC in Milwaukee last year about this time.
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Clay Travis
What you gonna do when Donald Trump and the Trump of Maniacs run wild on you brother?
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Elaheii Zadi
Also cut 27 here. Remember he ripped his shirt off in vintage Hulk Hogan fashion. He seemed very good last year. Reports are early again that he had a heart attack at 71 years old. A lot of those wrestlers, what they put their bodies through have not had very long lives as many of you know. Here is cut 27, Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt off on the RNC stage. This is what it sounded like what happened last week when they took a.
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Clay Travis
Shot at my hero and they tried to kill the next president of the United States. Enough was enough and I said let Trump Mania run wild brother. Let trumpamania rule again. Let trumpamania make America great again.
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Elaheii Zadi
And that was an incredible turn on the stage. Now I know about that. My boys are big wrestling fans and I know probably a lot of you out there listening are as well. The WWE back in the day was the WWF brought Hulk Hogan back in and relatively speaking a warm embrace after scandal had pushed him away for some time. And he appeared on I believe the most recently, most recent WrestleMania and on several different of their events. So look, if you want to talk back, I imagine that there are a lot of you out there hearing this news that want to react. If you've got a favorite moment from the Hulksters era, you can talk back. We'll play some of those. I would imagine that this is something that is hitting a lot of people out there who grew up, like I said, in the 80s and 90s with Hulk Hogan as famous just about as any sports entertainer, media personality, frankly. However you want to classify him as almost anyone out there and obviously a huge Donald Trump supporter and an iconic American original. I mean truly one of the most only in America as, as, as Don King used to like to say, but truly only in America, I don't know that there are figures like Hulk Hogan, who certainly had tremendous global appeal and would have been one of the most recognizable people, I think, anywhere in the United States, for sure. Even for people that did not care much about wrestling, he was just an absolute icon. So that news coming down, sad news. Ozzy Osbourne, for those of you who are rock fans, and Malcolm, Jamal Warner, if you grew UP in the 1980s, 1970s, 1990s, those are three different icons that may well have characterize some of your youth. Okay, So I wanted to share all that with you off the top. I got a text message this morning. I was getting ready for the show, and friend of the show. We've had him on the show. Alexi Lawless, one of the best American men's soccer players of his era and a American soccer analyst. A lot of you know him, big fan of the show. Awesome guy. He said, hey, I was listening. He listens every day. And he said, I was listening yesterday. And I think, hey, man, I speak for a lot of people. The Russiagate story is just. It's a big mess. And the way it's being covered, it's hard to even understand. Can you give us a sense, just distill why it matters? Take us through it, I think. And he was speaking on behalf of not only himself, but a lot of other listeners. He said, I just think this is super complicated and confusing. So I took that to heart and I got out. For those of you who watch us on YouTube, go subscribe. We're over 90,000 subscribers now. I want us over a hundred thousand. But for those of you who watch on YouTube, this is how I do the show. I am holding up for you right now, a yellow legal pad. And I basically just. I'll sit here with a pen in my hand, and I jot down bullet points that I think are important to characterize what exactly a story is. Just a little a note so that. So that I know where I'm going. And this morning, right before the show, I took Alexi's comments to heart, and I just jotted down a flowchart that I think will simplify in the minds of people out there that are somewhat confused over what happened with Russiagate. I also want to open up phone lines, 800-282-2882, ask questions. There's nothing wrong with not knowing the answer to a question. Um, a lot of people have opinions, but I think very often the foundational knowledge is very important because it will allow you to have more intelligent opinions than you otherwise might. So let's go back in time. Let's go back in time to 2016, to the election night. Hillary Clinton is an overwhelming favorite to win the election, according to all of the quote unquote experts. I remember sitting, as you probably remember sitting, watching all those election results come in and seeing what was effectively a cataclysm for the media. All of their predictions, all of their expertise, all of their polls, they were all 100% wrong. And not only were they 100% wrong, but Trump didn't just win. He won what would have to be characterized in many ways as a landslide victory. Out of nowhere. One states that they said he had no chance of winning. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan states that he would win again in 2024, but in 2016, they didn't see it coming at all. And so in the immediate aftermath of Trump's win, the media and the intelligentsia and the entire Democrat establishment had two paths they could have taken. One, they could have said, hey, maybe this guy Donald Trump is a much better politician than we thought he was, and maybe Hillary Clinton is a much worse politician than we thought she was. And they could have gone through all of the returns and they could have come up with a game plan to try to beat Trump in 2020 that acknowledged the significance of his win and also gave credit to him for being an elite politician. They didn't do that. Instead, they went back and they said, there's no way this result could have happened and happened in a legal manner. In other words, Trump had to have cheated. What are we missing? Everybody said Hillary was going to win. What are we missing? What happened to make Trump win? And instead of saying Hillary was a bad candidate, Hillary didn't campaign in the States. She should have. Hillary used her resources poorly. She was a thoroughly unlikable person to many, even Obama voters. Remember, Obama came out of nowhere to beat Hillary way back in 2008. Despite the fact that Hillary had all of the advantages, what was it that happened? They decided it had to be something outside the bounds of normalcy. There had to be cheating going on. Trump cheated. And I believe what happened was that message was conveyed to the intelligence community, which also was stunned beyond belief that Trump could win. And so they came up with the idea that Russia put its finger on the scale and the story became manufactured narrative. The reason Trump won was Russia. And they even moved beyond Trump won because of Russia to Trump is and was a Russian agent. He is effectively the Manchurian candidate. They took that manufactured evidence that they had created in the intelligence communities, out to the Washington Post, the New York Times, abc, NBC, cbs, cnn, msnbc. And they all uncritically took that expert intelligence information and trumpeted it as news and said Trump cheated. All of this was the product of Russia's interference in our election. And they did it by saying Russia hacked the election. And many people out there in the media, in the Democrat Party, you can say they're one in the same, decided to immediately put Trump under siege because the idea from the get go was that he was an illegitimate president. They couldn't accept that Hillary lost again. This was the original sin. They had two paths. Hillary just lost. She was a bad candidate. Trump was better than we thought. That is, I think, indisputably true. Instead, they said they had to have cheated. Let's delegitimize Trump. Right at the outset, they made the calculated decision, hey, this is the path we're gonna take. And here is where I, Buck, we'll talk about this, because I don't think this story is going away. We'll talk about this with Buck when you come back on Monday. I think he would sign on to this. The intelligence agencies are so big that if you want to find a story to tell inside of that intelligence agency, there's somebody with data points that will allow you to tell the story that you want to tell uncritically. The Washington Post, New York Times, abc, NBC, cbs, cnn, msnbc, they all ran with Russia and Trump cheated. That's why they won the election. If you asked any questions about that, oh, you were complicit as well. Maybe Russia was paying you. All of that then leads to basically the entire Trump 1.0 regime being under siege from the moment they came into office. Attorney General won't end it, says, hey, we've got to have a special counsel to investigate all this Russia collusion. Mueller comes in, spends years investigating, eventually, what does he come out and say? There's no evidence of collusion effectively, but it took years. That also when we come back, I want to talk about this. It wasn't just 2016. All of this also set the table for what I think was the ultimate rig job of 2020, when, because they had set the idea that Trump was Putin's stooge, that Trump was working for Russia, when the 100% legitimate Hunter Biden laptop, which indicated so much wrongdoing by the Biden family, when that was in FBI possession, they decided to say, the 51 intelligence agents, that it had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation They then sold an additional Russia lie. The idea from the outset was clear. Trump is a Russian stooge. Trump is controlled by Putin. The only way he could have won in 2016 was by Russian interference. Was all a lie. And what Tulsi was talking about yesterday was that even the intelligence agencies themselves did not have the evidence to support the lies that they helped to propagate. That's why all this is significant. 800-282-2882 I hope I'm explaining that in a way that is understandable because I under understand certainly how complicated all of this can be and how difficult it is to stay on top of all of this as well. We'll tell you more about this in the meantime, but if you've ever misplaced or had your wallet stolen, you know it's an awful feeling. Your license, credit cards, insurance cards, other forms of ID now potentially in the wrong hands. Multiply that by 10 when it comes to your online info, when a company database gets hacked, happens a lot. Cyber thieves get access to your personal information and then pretend to be you. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. We recommend protecting yourself with Lifelock. Lifelocks online identity theft protection alerts you to potential identity threats you may not spot on your own, like loans taken out in your name or unwanted credit card charges. 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Buck Sexton
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Bill O'Reilly
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Elaheii Zadi
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Bill O'Reilly
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Elaheii Zadi
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Clay Travis
I interviewed Hogan back when he was probably the top wage earner in the wrestling business. And I think he's the most famous wrestler ever. So, I mean, you don't get more iconic in that industry than that. But what his historical importance is is that he destroyed that smear website which was damaging Gawker.
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Elaheii Zadi
He took down.
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Clay Travis
And I admired that because that was the worst. I mean, there are a lot of bad websites now, a lot, nothing like that. And he took them down single handedly. It was all him. And that's what I will remember him for as a journalist, the wrestling industry. Okay. You know, but what he did was he sent a message that there is a limit to how much you can hurt people using a website or a company. And that was very important for this country.
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Elaheii Zadi
You are writing about right now, evil in particular, confronting evil, assessing the worst of the worst. That book is going to come out September 9th, very soon, yesterday, and we didn't talk about it a ton on the show, but yesterday Bryan Coburger was confronted by the family and friends of the four young people that he Murdered in cold blood in. In Idaho. What did you think as you watched that, in terms of evil and the fact that he just basically has declined to say anything about the crimes that he is committing, that the plea that he has entered into is going to save him from the death penalty, but means he'll have to spend the rest of his life in prison?
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Clay Travis
That is singular evil, individual evil, and it's heinous. But it's been in humankind forever, ever since the planet and Neanderthals walked, has always been here. Singular evil. What I write about in Confronting Evil is collective evil, where you have 15 people that we spotlight inside the book that achieved enormous power. And they did so in a variety of ways, but everyone knew they were evil. There wasn't like a debate about it. And yet they were able, in their situations, the Ayatollah in Iran, Hitler in Germany, Stalin and Putin in Russia, they were able to get to a position where they killed millions and millions of people. Untold suffering. That was my fascination. Now, I've covered a lot of stories in my 50 years in journalism and a lot of heinous serial killers. I chased Ted Bundy from coast to coast, all right? He was one of the worst ever. And my opinion on it is very simple. These are psychotic people. They're psychopaths, and they will commit as much damage as they can. They are evil, and society has an obligation to punish them as much as possible. But it's not at the level of what I'm writing about in my upcoming book.
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Elaheii Zadi
We're talking with Bill O'Reilly. We open the show talking about the revelations from Tulsi Gabbard surrounding the 2016 election and what the intelligence agencies knew and what they said publicly. What do you think the significance of that story is and playing it forward? What will the consequences be, if any, legally, in your mind, going forward from the revelations she just shared?
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Clay Travis
Well, Brennan has definite criminal potential. The former CIA chief under Obama, the guy, according to the House report, Remember, this is the House Intelligence Committee two years after the Senate issues. There's a lot of new information there, and it was chaired by Schiff sue, the Democratic majority on this committee, they concluded that at least three times that Brennan knew the information that he was using to get warrants to do other things to damage the Trump administration was false. So if I'm Brennan right now, I'm combing for the best lawyer I can find. That looks like a slam dunk case to me. That looks like prison time to me. The other is a little murky. I mean, I know the right wing people are jumping up and down going, oh, they're going to indict Barack Obama. They're not. That would be impossible. It's not going to happen. So if you want to run around thinking that, fine, but it's not. In the real world, Comey, the FBI chief now there, you'd have to have a testimony inside the bureau. You'd have to have someone inside the bureau that worked and had access to Comey say, yeah, he knew the same thing Brennan knew and he cooperated with the fraud. That's what you would need to nail Comey in front of a federal grand jury. They may be able to get that. The current Justice Department may be able to get that. And so whenever these stories break, I always tell my listeners and viewers that you have to live in the real world. Supreme Court has ruled clearly in Donald Trump's case in the Jan. 6 that he had the right as president to say and do what he felt was necessary. Barack Obama is going to fall right under that category. Unless you have Michelle Obama saying, hey, you know, he knew it was a fake, I don't think you're going to get it. But who knows?
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Elaheii Zadi
We're talking to Bill O'Reilly. Got a new book coming out about confronting evil September 9th. What would you tell President Trump he should do about the Epstein revelations and the ongoing story there? If he asked you for advice, your advice would be what?
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Clay Travis
No, he asked me this morning.
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Elaheii Zadi
Oh, okay.
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Clay Travis
About four hours ago, I got a call from the president and I, you know, I don't report word for word, but I'll tell you generally my feeling about it. Okay. So I don't think that President Trump should answer any questions about Epstein. He should defer to the Justice Department 100%. I would not, as president, allow myself to be besieged by this story. It is a legitimate story in the sense that there are millions of Americans, not just liberal people, but conservatives as well, who believe the fix is in at the federal level. And if you're rich and powerful, you're going to be protected, even if you're a criminal. That is a common belief in America that makes this story valid. So what I would do would be have one spokesperson designated by the Justice Department to deal with this situation and to tell American people, here's what we are doing. If you read the Wall Street Journal report yesterday, it said clearly that in the information compiled by the federal government about Jeffrey Epstein, there are literally hundreds of names in that information. Hundreds. Guys that delivered them bagels, you know, all of those, yes. So these people screaming, oh, you got to put it all out. That would be billions of dollars in lawsuits if the Justice Department were to do that. Billions. Because if your name is associated with Jeffrey Epstein's name in any capacity, you're going to be harmed. There's not going to be context applied to it by anybody. And so your name pops up alongside Jeffrey Epstein. Whoever doesn't like you is going to use that to hurt you. And so the Justice Department cannot do that. It's impossible. And also in the Journal article, and remember the Journal article, the Journal is going after Trump. They want to hurt Trump. That newspaper, which is going to be catastrophic for the Murdoch family and Fox News down the road. Also in that article is no one is currently under federal investigation in this case. No one. Now, the Wall Street Journal is usually pretty accurate in its reportage. I don't know about this birthday card business.
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Elaheii Zadi
Were you stunned? By the way? Let me ask you about that, because to me, from a news perspective, I think you first have to ask yourself the question we're Talking to Bill O'Reilly, is this news? And then secondarily you ask, okay, is it relevant news? I don't even get to the second question because Trump doing, even if he did it, a bawdy birthday card 20 some odd years ago for Jeffrey Epstein to me isn't news. Epstein wasn't a felon then. And so I don't think it would surprise anybody that Trump might have a little bit of a locker room sense of humor back for much of his life. I mean, that's been well chronicled. I'm just kind of surprised that they chose even to run that story.
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Clay Travis
Well, there are three things involved here. Number one, you're correct. It is not a news story on its own. But what the press is trying to do is link Trump to Epstein in doing bad things. That's what this is all about. That's what the Trump, that's why President Trump should stay away from this 100%. What the dishonest, corrupt corporate media in America is trying to do is convince Americans that Donald Trump had access to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes and may have participated. That's what the press wants Americans to believe. So any linkage between Trump and Epstein is going to be blown up. This is a very simple story. A forensic can make a determination on whether that card is in Trump's hand or not. Trump says he didn't do it and files suit two days later. Two days. Two days. I mean, come on, that looks like a Pretty aggressive action to me. And if is wrong.
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Elaheii Zadi
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
This is important point. If the Wall Street Journal published a story using a bogus birthday card, that's not real, that was a fraud, the whole thing collapses. Not only the Wall Street Journal, Fox News, everything else done. That's how big this story is.
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Elaheii Zadi
Let me ask you the last question here. You mentioned that you talked to President Trump earlier, not asking for particulars of the conversation. How would you assess his overall vibe and demeanor as you just talked to him today compared to so far in this, this term and also compared to last term? How comfortable, how confident did you find him to be?
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Clay Travis
He's tired. And he's tired because this kind of stuff wears you down. And he believes that he's doing an excellent job for the country. Last night they had a, a great deal with Japan announced by the Trump administration. Fabulous. It got not one second of coverage on the nightly newscast. The three of them, not a set. Epstein got 10 minutes. So Trump is furious. Furious because this kind of stuff weighs you down emotionally and mentally. Now, he's the strongest guy I know. I mean, my God. But his hand is swelling up because he has to shake hundreds of hands a week. I do fist bumps because I got to take a lot of hands, too. Everybody knows me wherever I go, but I don't shake hands. And I tell people, look, I can't have a swollen hand. Well, Trump's hand is bothering him. It's painful. Okay? So he's going over to Scotland tomorrow, play some golf over there, get some, you know, cooler temperatures. And I was asking him, I said, look, you know, you're only a person because I know him so long. And I said, you got to be a little, you got to take care of yourself here physically and everything you got. And that's why my advice, and I hope he takes it, don't acknowledge this obscene thing at all. Let the Justice Department handle it. And that's that.
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Elaheii Zadi
Bill O'Reilly, fantastic as always. The book coming out is Confronting Evil, Assessing the Worst of the Worst. It will be out September 9th. We look forward to talking to you again. You can also check him out@bill o'reilly.com read his columns there. Appreciate you, sir.
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Clay Travis
All right, Clay, one more thing. We just passed a million subscribers on YouTube.
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Elaheii Zadi
That's boring.
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Clay Travis
Three months and it's YouTube.com Bill O'Reilly. And it's totally different than what we do on our television broadcast. So I appreciate you having me on. Tell Buck I think he's faking it. All right? But I'll be listening on Monday when you guys get together again.
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Elaheii Zadi
Appreciate you, sir. And go check out his YouTube page. You can also check out our YouTube. Bill O'Reilly's dunking on us. He just said he's got a million subscribers. What do we have? I'm pulling it up right now. 90,000. We have gone over 90,000 subscribers. I want us over a hundred K. Bill O'Reilly's got a million. He just dunked on us right there. I didn't even know he was going to do it. He's got us 10 to 1. Can you please go subscribe? Search out my name, Clay Travis. Search out Buck Sexton and you can help propel those numbers up past 100K. Look, you guys know I'm a huge sports fan. MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, college baseball, college basketball, college football. I love it all. And I love the Prize Picks app because it makes all of those sports more fun than they would otherwise be. And you get 50 bucks when you play. Right now, all you have to do is use my name. Clay, you play $5 pick more or less for whoever your favorite athletes are. Look, I got to be honest with you. The Braves stink. The Braves are awful this year. They are the Travis family team. Ronald Acuna is really good, though, so we can at least go look at his stats and we can say, okay, we're going to take more. That's at least an incentive to watch because he is a phenomenal player. Maybe your baseball team's playing great, maybe they're playing poorly, but I guarantee you there's a player, at least on that team that is having a good season. You can have fun with them. All you have to do is go download the Price Picks app today. You get $50 when you play. $5. Use my name Clay. Get signed up. California, Texas, Georgia. If you're feeling left out. Prizepix.com Code Clay stories of freedom. Stories of America. Inspirational stories that unite us all.
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Clay Travis
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Elaheii Zadi
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Breaking news as we started the show. Sad news, especially for those of you who grew up watching Hulk Hogan back in the day. 71 years old Hulk Hogan passes. That just happened in the last couple of hours. If you want to give us a talk back, you may have heard several people talking about their experiences or their memories of Hulk Hogan. An absolute icon. True American Original panel spoke last year about this time in Milwaukee, Wisconsin at the Republican National Convention. We may play you that audio again in his honor. As he endorsed President Trump. And so we will continue to talk about that first hour of the program, encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. You will not miss anything. We talked all about the Russiagate and why it mattered and why it was significant and where I thought things were headed now after the revelations from Tulsi Gabbard yesterday, a lot of you asking questions will continue to discuss those. I would put our analysis of the larger Russiagate question up against almost anyone, maybe everyone in all of media in terms of telling you why it matters and where we go from here. All of that coming still down as the days and weeks continue. Also, Epstein, the grand jury testimony refused to be released by an Obama appointed judge. The grand jury testimony right now there is a meeting going on between Ghislaine Maxwell and one of the top officials in the Department of Justice, one of the deputy attorney generals. We will find out if any news emerges from that. Jelaine Maxwell, convicted of sex trafficking, currently serving 20 years in prison as a part of those convictions. She is in Tallahassee, Florida and we will give you the latest as more details emerge there. But I did want to have some fun. We got a bunch of clips out there and we almost talked about this yesterday, but then all the Russiagate news happened and I thought this was super fascinating. I believe really, Sunny Hostin is the dumbest person who's on television daily in media, and that might be unfair to her because certainly there are lots of her castmates on the View that give her a run, whether it's Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg. But those people are actually comedians. And I don't know that most of us look around and say, hey, you know who the most brilliant people in America are? Are comedians. I don't necessarily look to Joy Behar or Whoopi Goldberg to be able to explain complicated things to large audiences. Sunny Hostin, I believe, has a law degree from Notre Dame team. Will you confirm that that is correct? The Fighting Irish gave Sunny Hostin a law degree. I know she has a law degree. I think it's from Notre Dame. But her inability to understand basic legal related issues when she's talking to her audience suggests to me that Notre Dame should ask for that law degree. Back here is Sunny Hostin yesterday on the View saying firing Stephen Colbert is the dismantling of our democracy and the dismantling of our Constitution. Listen to cut 10 if it is political. This is the dismantling of our democracy. This is the dismantling of our Constitution. Right. And so the first Amendment is the first Amendment for a reason. And that is freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom to speak truth to power. If that is taken away, if the comedians are being attacked, then that means our Constitution is being dismantled. That means the very rubric of our democracy is being disputed mantle. And I think every single person should be really, really concerned about it. And if we find out it is political, what are we going to do? As a country, we must protect our constitution and we must protect our democracy. She is a moron. She does in fact have a law degree from Notre Dame. Notre Dame, after that segment aired, should say, actually, could we please have your JD Back. I don't know if she ever passed a bar exam. If she did, that is unbelievable. Um, by the way, abc, I'm just getting an update. ABC got back with us. After we invited ourselves onto the View, our producer Ally, we got an email. Hi. Tomorrow is our last day in studio for this season. The show returns in September for the new season. We then said we would do any day that they wanted in the new season. They have not responded. So we at least now have made contact with the View and negotiations are ongoing. And by negotiations, I mean we are happy to go on anytime. And they are likely to tell us that they will not have us on anytime. But it's how negotiations are going. It's kind of like how the single guys out there negotiations to date Sydney Sweeney are going, hey, Sydney, anywhere you want to go, you know, I'll show up, we'll date. And Sydney Sweeney is like, yeah, okay, probably not clamoring to date you, but if you're a single guy, might, might as well shoot your shot. So basically we are telling the View we'll be there anytime, any place, anywhere. And the View is saying, hey, we got to wash our hair. We'll get back to you. But Sunny Hostin, I can't believe that this, that a law graduate. Again, I'm taking Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar off the table. That somebody who went to law school for three years at a elite law school like Notre Dame, it's a very good law school, could misapprehend basic First Amendment and Constitution related law to go on and talk to that audience and be that stupid. Look, nobody has a constitutional right to get paid millions of dollars to tell jokes. If they did, that would be a hell of a gig. If in the Constitution it was written, hey, and Clay Travis gets to tell whatever jokes he wants and everybody has to pay him millions of dollars to do it. If that were a Constitutional right. That'd be a hell of a constitutional right for me. No one is taking away Stephen Colbert's right to free speech. If tomorrow Julie Talbot, my boss and Buck's boss came in and she said, hey, you guys are fired. Nobody would be taking away our first amendment speech. We don't have a first amendment right to talk to you on the radio every day. I heart is a corporation and they can decide, hey, who do we think is going to do a good show and make us money? We would like to enter into a contract with them. If we start doing a bad show, if we start not making them money, then we would be gone. That's the reality. Stephen Colbert show lost $40 million. I will guarantee you, if this show lost $1 million, I bet Buck and I wouldn't have a job anymore. If Rush's show had lost $1 million, I bet Rush wouldn't have had a job anymore. Anyone who talks to large audiences for a living is obligated unless you own the company yourself. Which I do not, Which Buck does not, which Sean Hannity does not, which Glenn Beck does not, which Jesse Kelly does not. All distributed by premier on many of these same nation stations all across the nation. If we lose money, we're gonna lose our jobs. That's good. That's how the marketplace works. No one is stopping Stephen Colbert from starting his own YouTube channel. No one is stopping Stephen Colbert from starting his own podcast. No one is stopping Stephen Colbert from telling as many jokes at the expense of whomever he wants the punchline to be for the rest of his life. All that has happened is Paramount, which owns cbs. Their business people, they got out their ledger and they went down and they said, hey, we're losing $40 million on this show. Should we continue to lose $40 million on this show forever? Maybe more. As the audience continues to decline and move online and move away from late night television, most business people would say, no, we're not going to do this. Whatever you do. If you work at a for profit business, if your mechanic shop is losing money, you're probably going to fire people. If your roofer roofing business is losing money, you're going to fire people. If your gutter guard company is losing money, you're going to fire people. No one has the right to be employed for as long as they want and not have the consequences of that. And for Sunny Hostin to say, oh, our democracy, our Constitution, our first amendment is at stake. If Stephen Colbert is fired because his show isn't making money anymore is so moronically unintelligent that I actually think Notre Dame should ask for their law degree back. And I think we should have an investigation into the bar exam that Sunny Hostin passed. Because if you have that poor of an understanding of basic constitutional law, I question how in the world you passed any bar exam. What an unbelievable idiot. But that's the kind of arguments that you are seeing now being made across the landscape. And guess what also just happened? Paramount, the parent company of CBS that distributes Stephen Colbert show just gave a million a bit. Sorry, a billion and a half dollars to Trey Parker and Matt Stone who do south park, the comedic show which has aired now for 20 some odd years on Comedy Central and is also owned by Paramount. They just gave them a new five year deal for $1.5 billion. And I believe I'm correct that their debut episode for the new season just aired last night and they made a lot of jokes at Donald Trump's expense. Paramount didn't fire them. Do you know why? Because their show makes money. And if your comedy show makes money, my bet is that every business in America is going to get behind you and want to make more money. And so Sunny Hostin's on the View crazily, that show makes money. But if they start to lose money, guess what's going to happen? ABC News is going to say, hey, we don't have to do this anymore. Corporations aren't bound to make you rich because some people happen to like your politics. Failure to understand basic business actually is a huge issue across the entire landscape of America right now. If you want to make more money and you work at a for profit business, let me give you a little piece of advice. On behalf of business owners everywhere, on behalf of small business owners everywhere, make them more money. I have never seen anybody get fired who makes their bosses a lot more money year after year. And that is in fact the truth, whether Sunny Hostin knows it or not. Poor Notre Dame law School, please ask for your law degree to be returned because you have given it to a moron that is actually destroying the value of your overall institutional worth. I want to tell you, talk about value, how about Birch Gold? Birch Gold will hook you up right now with diversity. And the price of gold continues to skyrocket. Do you know why? Because throughout history, gold has been a hedge against inflation. And thanks to Joe Biden, our inflation rate skyrocketed. The value of the dollar has declined precipitously. A lot of people have gotten into crypto, but a lot of people have gotten into gold as well. Gold is tangible. It's reliable. It has been an asset throughout time. And if you're interested in adding gold to your overall resume, to your overall portfolio, you can get hooked up right now with Birch Gold. You can even convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA with physical gold. All you have to do Text my name Clay to 9898 98. Birchgold will send you a free info kit on Gold. All you have to do Again, my name Clay98 9898 Just learn about it. 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Bill O'Reilly
Well, first and foremost, as someone who listens to the show, it's an honor to be a guest for the first time on it. And I hope this is the first of many conversations to come. But to your point, I joined President Trump's campaign in some of the earliest days of his 2016 campaign. And when he went to the White House, I served in the White House on the very first and very last day of his administration. And while that administration set records across his agenda, this administration is setting even more records. And I think what we as a team learned throughout these last 10 years is to focus on the policies that matter to Americans, especially at election time, which are the economy, which are immigration, safety at home, and try to avoid, as best you can, distractions that don't allow us to make our case to the American people and likewise don't allow us to deliver wins to the American people. So I think we've all endured quite a bit of those hoaxes, as you've mentioned, and I myself am no exception to it. And ultimately, I think we're all excited this August to be talking about the president's one big beautiful bill and what we're going to accomplish. The rest of this Congress, especially around boxing, which is what I'm very excited.
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Elaheii Zadi
About, I'm going to get to that in a moment. But you have seen certainly the news about Hulk Hogan. A lot of our audience has been reacting. Just an unbelievable cultural icon from the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s. I bet that you have some Hulk Hogan memories. And obviously last year on the stage at the rnc, what do you remember about the cultural icon of Hulk Hogan?
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Bill O'Reilly
Sure. Well, I'm myself a big WWE fan and was an even bigger WCW fan back in the day. Admittedly, I was a big Goldberg fan. I actually went Just a few weeks ago to see his retirement match in Atlanta. And it was very special for me because 27 years before he retired, I also was at Hulk vs Goldberg, the Georgia Dome.
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Elaheii Zadi
I don't know that you Monday night.
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Bill O'Reilly
Show, but I was at that show. So 27 years later, to have an opportunity to watch Goldberg retire was an incredible opportunity, incredible experience. And that hadn't been said as it relates to the Hulk. I mean, he, to your point, is an American icon and frankly, and I know we're going to get into boxing, but that's what inspires me about trying to revive boxing, this once great American sport. But the heroes. Boxing yesterday is something that inspires me to try to get this legislation passed so we can have heroes and cultural icons like Muhammad Ali in the sport going forward.
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Elaheii Zadi
Yeah, no doubt. I mean, I think if you're around my age, you grew up in the Mike Tyson era of boxing. Mike Tyson was the must watch guy when I was a kid growing up. A lot of people out there, older, have different boxers that they watched. MMA has taken off. In fact, President Trump has said next year he's going to have a UFC event on the south lawn of the White House, which I'm hoping I get to go to, because that's going to be one of the most badass sporting events of all time. Boxing has struggled sometimes in this culturally relevant space. WWE has monster audiences still. We know that the UFC has unbelievable audience as well. Huge percentages of our audience would be paying attention to those events on a regular basis. But boxing has struggled to keep pace. Why do you think that is and what are you trying to do to help bring boxing back in the United States?
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, what I find most interesting is that boxing, professional boxing, is the only sport regulated by Congress. And I think that perhaps some of your listeners may not have been aware of that. Nor too have some of my colleagues been aware of that. So part of this is informing and letting people know that Congress actually has a legitimate role in operating in the space, because we have history here. In 1996, Congress tried to address some of the health and safety issues in boxing, and they passed the Professional Boxing safety act of 96. In 2000, Congress came back and passed the Muhammad Ali act, which helped address some of the corruptive nature of the sport. I think one of the challenges in the last 25 years, again, it's been 25 years, a quarter of a century since Congress touched and enacted any legislation around boxing. You've seen this precipitous decline in the sport, viewership's down, pay per view buys are down. And I think one of the challenges is we haven't seen innovation in this sport for 25 years. The reason why we have not seen innovation and the reason why I yesterday introduced the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival act is because we need to clarify existing law where it's ambiguous so that we can usher in new types of organizations, new types of business models, so to speak, to come into this sport and function alongside the sanctioning organizations that will continue to function in this sport. We want to have more choice and more opportunities for boxers. We need legislation that defines who can operate in this space and how they can operate in this space. And we've got to clarify what's there because no, innovation will not yield the next generation of heroes what we're trying to deliver.
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Elaheii Zadi
And I would imagine we would also like to have more of the biggest fights in the United States, right, To the extent that we could help make that happen. I know boxing is a global brand business now and people pay for them to go all over the world, but I would imagine part of that goal is to make it possible for us to have great fights again here in the United States.
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, to your point, I mean, people on the show, you know where you were when Holyfield, Tyson, you may remember where you were in 85, Hagler, Hearn. So I think that when you think about what we're trying to accomplish here, it's to build, to build consensus around the country that we need Congress to move on this legislation. We've got to have an update after 25 years. And we need to deliver innovation opportunities for those that are interested in operating in the sport. And innovation is going to generate, in my mind, it's going to generate a lot of American interest in the sport. You're going to see folks coming up and some of the safety protections and some of the compensation enhancements that we're adding to this bill are going to again, motivate and excite people about wanting to get involved in the Sport. It's been 37 years since American has won a gold medal. I hope the next gold medalist is inspired by this legislation and gets back into the ring and fights their way to a champion.
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Elaheii Zadi
I would love to have an American gold medal boxer. I'd also just like to have men actually win men's boxing and women win women's boxing. How crazy is it that the president had to put a rule in place so the United States Olympic Committee would say, hey, women's sports can only be for the Olympics competed in by women.
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, and again, I think that ultimately there may be people that try to inject some of those culture wars into this, but this is a really sound piece of legislation. And ultimately we have protections for male boxers and we have protections for female boxers within this legislation. The key of it is ensuring that we provide more opportunities for boxers to engage in the sport, earn better compensation in the sport, have greater health and safety protection. And I think anybody listening, it's been 25 years, a quarter of a century since we've updated boxing laws. It's long overdue. If we're able to pass this, you're going to usher in a whole new era of innovation that's going to revitalize and revive the sport. And let me just also say we're calling it the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival act because we have the endorsement of Loni Ali, the wife of Muhammad Ali that was very special to us and she has a very special statement in support of it. And we also have the endorsement of the association of Boxing Commissions. The ABC is considered the gold standard in the sport. So having their input, helping learn from them how best to shape this legislation, I think yielded an incredible product.
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Elaheii Zadi
Congressman, we appreciate you listening to the show. Thanks for all the work you've done for President Trump. This sounds like a bill that makes a lot of sense. You're listening to Brian Jack representing the 3rd congressional district of Georgia. Hope we can keep you entertained on this and good luck with the bill.
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Bill O'Reilly
It was an honor speaking with you and big fan of yours, big fan of the show and as a fellow listener, like I said, I would love to come back on and share. We expect September, October, we'll start to see some movement in the committee process. But as we move toward our 250th anniversary next year, let's revive this once great American sport. Thank you.
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Elaheii Zadi
No doubt. Thank you. That's Congressman Brian Jack, Third Congressional District in Georgia. We come back, more reactions to Hulk Hogan's untimely passing, 71 years old. Also, Russia Gate, an update on what's going on with Epstein. All that and more to close out the program. But I want to tell you about my buddy Ben and his wife Corley and the incredible business that they have built with good ranchers. Look, if you got kids and I got three, you probably are thinking all the time, hey, what can I feed them that's healthy? What can I make sure I'm giving them that is not laid loaded with preservatives and that is actually organic and American raised? That's the entire basis for Good Ranchers. This is a company based in the United States that uses actual product from the United States. Whether you're interested in salmon, chicken, beef, we had steaks three nights ago. I think my wife cooked amazing steaks for me and the boys direct from Good Ranchers. They ship it right to your house. You can save a bundle. You get incredible high quality. 85% of the grass fed beef sold in the US is imported. These are American Ranchers. American product coming to you straight from the United States. You're gonna love it. No antibiotics or added hormones. Hamburgers, chicken nuggets, whatever your kids are into, you can go on. Heck, hot dogs, bacon, chicken wings. You can go on and select exactly what you want. I'm telling you, you're gonna love it. Get shipped right to the house, you and right now you get $40 off. Go check it out. You don't have to take my word for it. Go look at it. Check it out for yourself. Goodranchers.com Great American brand. Use my name Clay. You get free meat for life. Burgers, hot dogs, bacon, chicken wings. You can pick plus $40 off goodranchers.com my name Clay do it for $40 off in free meat for life. Goodranchers.com my Name Clay. I feed it to my family. Ben and Corley feed it to their four kids. You're gonna love them. Goodranchers.com Code Clay want to be in.
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