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Clay Travis
Welcome in everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay held down the fort. No keg parties I'm told. Probably well behaved. Everything very good while I was gone. Clay, thank you for doing that. And I was in New York city, my dad's 78th birthday. There might have even been Clay, a singing trump card involved for his birthday. Not actual Trump, but it was pretty fun.
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Buck Sexton
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Like I've heard it's your birthday. I've heard it's your birthday. Anyway, so we had a good time up in New York City. And you know what I still love? I love New York. I'm not going to wear one of the T shirts because I'm not a tourist ever there even though I don't live there anymore. But I do love NYC and I think it's, they're, they're gonna fight back on this. Mom Donnie Madness, we'll dive into all of that. But yeah, it was very nice to spend some time with the family. Little baby Speed got baptized, which is very important, very important. We were at a lovely Catholic church there with the family, got baptized. So I appreciated the ability to, to do that over the weekend, bring him into the church. And Clay, we got a lot of news. The big thing actually all morning I was watching the Real Time press conference, the live press conference going on with Keir Starmer, the UK Prime Minister and Donald Trump where they were announcing a UK US deal on trade. Big trade deal, legitimately huge. And then also the EU has announced a Huge trade deal. Remember, the EU is actually the largest economy in the world. Now, it's not a country, so we are still the number one country. But if you add all the EU together, it's the largest economy in the world, world. And so it's meaningful, to say the least, that these deals went through. And Clay, before we get into the, we have to get into the. Trump was right. And we said, guys, give it time, give it time. You go back, you listen. The great thing about this radio show is if you ever were curious, when did, when did the market tank, Clay?
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Buck Sexton
When were April, it was in the absolute tank. Everybody was saying, hey, the economy's in trouble, recession's coming, your 401 s are worthless. TRUMP has no idea what he's doing. And we said hold your stocks. If you happen to have additional money, now is the time probably to put more money in, buy and hold long term. And as we are speaking to all of you this Monday, another all time high in the S&P 500 in the Dow. If you just never checked your 401k year starts and you're like, hey, I'm only going to check it halfway through, you're up big on the year. If you bought in April, you're up nearly 30% from where those lows were when all the so called experts were telling you that the world was falling apart.
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Clay Travis
So it is a huge victory lap moment for Trump because we said at the time, and this was a moment where the so called consensus was very much going against Trump, right? The economists, the CNBC watchers and the CNBC hosts, that whole crew was, well, we all know the trade deal, that this is going to lead to trade wars and higher prices and the stock market's going to tank and it can lead to a recession. And to be fair, and this is why I said you can go back and listen, we said we do not know that actually that Donald Trump has earned the right to have the trust of the American people on the economy and on negotiating trade. I think more than really anything else, maybe immigration too. But on, on the economy and trade, he knows more than the people criticizing him. He truly does. He understands these dynamics better than the people out there. You know, the peanut gallery, the cheap seats, you know, saying, oh, he's going to ruin everything. We have huge trade deals announced. Here's just a little overview of some of this. Okay, this was, you had Trump yesterday in Scotland at Turnberry, apparently a lovely golf course. Here was Trump in Scotland talking about how, look at where the American Economy is. Look at all this enthusiasm and play. This is cut 7. Play it.
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Donald Trump
Every leader, when I went to NATO the other day, every leader said, you have the hottest country in the world. We have the hottest country in the world. We're taking in hundreds of billions of dollars. We have the highest stock market we've ever had. We have the best numbers we've ever had. But we have hundreds of billions of dollars pouring into our country, and I think it's the hottest. And by the way, one year ago, our country was dead. We had a dead country because of an incompetent president and incompetent Democrats. All they know how to do is talk and think about conspiracy theories and nonsense. If they'd waste their time talking about America being great again, it would be so much nicer, so much easier.
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Clay Travis
Clay, a big part of this, too, is people looking at these negotiations, these trade. Now, these deals, right? The negotiations have, have come to a conclusion. It's a great deal for America. They can't get around this, that this has improved the economic landscape for the American people. And this is in so many ways the manifestation of an America first trade policy, as in advantaging this country.
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Buck Sexton
Finally, what Trump is a master of is leverage. It's the number one thing that he recognizes. If he gets an inch on you, he will turn it into a mile. And his thought, and this is one of the things that you can go back and watch Trump talking about this for generations, if you so desire, even on Oprah, what he understands is this market is the most valuable market to have access to in the world. And his perspective on that is there should be a cost that we extract from other countries to be able to access the richest market of consumers in the world. And everybody said, this is unbelievable. There's no way this is going to work. We had a balanced budget last month that nobody's talking about. Now, I understand that it can be somewhat of a calendar quirk, and look, we've got to get better and better, but there's almost zero doubt that we are going to have hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs. And what Trump has said so far has been true. The American consumer is not fronting those costs. It is being eaten largely by manufacturers in other countries that have cut back prices to try to remain competitive. Now, we still have a deal to do with China, but As we near August 1st, Liberation Day was in early April, if I recall correctly. And if you just didn't look at your stocks and now you suddenly decide, hey, it's getting close To August. Maybe I'll go look at my 401k. Maybe I'll go look at the, the index funds that, that I hold. You've got record money. And I think people are feeling that you are not seeing skyrocketing inflation. Inflation remains low. And in general, wage growth, which is really the. I would argue the most important single stat is, is wage growth outgrowing cost of goods? If you had to synthesize what makes you feel like you're doing better in general, it is when your income as a worker is growing faster than the cost of the goods that you purchase with your income. And we have a situation where Trump has reversed the downturn of Biden and, and your incomes are growing faster than the things that you have to buy now. I think this is important. The prices are never going to come back down. And this is the toxicity of inflation. By and large. We never hit negative inflation. There are all sorts of negative connotations economically that would occur. So the pernicious, awful, dastardly part of inflation is it does not ever go back. You're wanting to buy a hamburger for $3 instead of five, Tom. It's never going to get returned to the $3. All you can do is slow the rate of growth, which is why I always compare it to putting on weight. If you're continuing to put on weight, sooner or later, the fact that you're putting on weight at a lower rate does not mean you're not going to be fat. And so all of those are major issues that, that unfortunately are going to stay with us from the Biden regime. But Trump, look, he ran on economy, border crime, and, and six months in buck. I can't remember a president who has more delivered on the things he said he would deliver on than Trump in the first six months has everything that he ran on. Economy, border crime is infinitely better than it was under Biden.
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Clay Travis
And we're not even doing the comparison you could do, which is imagine if Kamala Harris was president right now. Well, yeah, none of this. And you know, that would be the thing that most people would go to if Trump had underperformed a little bit the first six months, ran into some stumbles or whatever. You could always do the. Well, at least it's not Kamala in this case. It's like comparing the top student in the class to the worst student in the class. Right. I mean, the, the difference is night and day between the administration that you are getting right now and what could have been and what, 48%, 49% no, it was more than that. 49% of the American people voted for in this last election, which is insane, which is to have Kamala Harris in charge of this economy. None of these trade deals would have gotten. Would have gotten done. Trump. This is just one of these moments where, remember we said we learned a lesson from the first term, which was everyone, quote, unquote, everyone said, Trump is wrong on China. He's wrong to take the approach he did to China. And not only was it correct in the implementation, it was so correct that Biden didn't change it because they knew that it would cause problems, it would be bad. Right. So he was right on China when everyone said he was going to be wrong. Clay, I think what we're seeing again is Trump will be right on trade negotiations when, quote, unquote, everyone said that he would be wrong. Here he is on the trade deal with the eu we didn't even talk about this in specifics yet. This is cut 8. Play it.
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Donald Trump
This started months ago, this negotiation. So we knew pretty much what we were getting into, and we were able to make a deal that's very satisfactory to both. Both sides. So it's very, It's a tremendously, It's a very powerful deal. It's a very big deal. It's the biggest of all the deals. It will be the biggest of all the deals. So we're very honored to have done so.
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Clay Travis
And it's a huge, a huge deal with the eu As I said, the largest actual economic zone on the planet because it's all those countries put together. And now, Clay, American producers will be operating on a more, a more level playing field with trade partners like the eu. There's hundreds of billions of dollars of investment that's agreed to from the EU here. There's a lot of US Energy that's going to be bought. Additional energy is going to be bought by the EU Now. I mean, this is, this is. It's so good that they can't even come up, the Trump haters can't even come up with a way to tell you it's bad. I think that tells you everything.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, look, I think they're running scared. I mean, I talked about this a little bit over the weekend. I think Trump has been proven right on the Epstein stuff, which I know people are still somewhat fired up about. But Democrats, and I think there's audio of Trump talking about this. But Democrats had these Epstein files for four years. They're losing on the economy, they're losing on border, they're losing on crime. So now they're trying to say, oh, Trump's to blame for Epstein. And my thing on that would be, well, you had the files for four years under Joe Biden. Why did you not release everything? Why did you not bring all the charges? We'll see what's going to end up happening there. But I do think it's worth you all thinking about this. They've pivoted from economy, border crime attacks to, hey, all we can really hit Trump on is Epstein. And that is, I think a sign, honestly of how well he's doing on all the major big issues, the EBC economy, border crime that he ran on in the first six months, that they're not even really coming after him. I think they've recognized, Buck, that going after Trump on, hey, he's deporting too many people is actually harming them. You know, the Wall Street Journal had an incredible graphic over the weekend. Maybe we can talk about this a little bit. Democrats have hit a 35 year low in popularity. That's pretty extraordinary and the lowest level of popularity that has ever existed because they are picking a lot of things to attack Trump on that the vast majority of the American public agrees with him on.
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Clay Travis
It is a good day, everybody. Trump is taking a much deserved victory lap. And just look at what's going on with the economy all around you. I know that sometimes good is less interesting or grabs the attention less than catastrophe, especially in the news business. But there will be challenges ahead. Trust me. Take it in that things are going well right now. One of the challenges Trump talked about was really no progress with Russia at all. So we can talk more about that. Trump is ticked off at Putin. I could tell you from watching that interview this morning and previous statements he's made. So that's something that's going to get more attention now. And I think Trump has the wind at his back. I think Putin is underestimating the kind of pain that Trump is willing to inflict economically on Russia to bring this thing to a conclusion. So we can talk about that as well. But on trade, Trump is not tired of winning. President Trump was right on the money, that's for sure. And it's just evidence of how hard he's working to make the economy roar. Now that's fantastic. But you have to take individual action for yourself, for your future. It's not about where things are going to be tomorrow. It's where things are going to be in 5 years, 10 years, 20 years. Look at the price of gold over the last year. Look at the price of gold over the last decade decade. You will be astonished when you see how much it has gone up over the last 10 years. Gold, my friends, increases in value over time. We got all these governments all over the world that are buying up gold too because they're printing money. So even with Trump righting the ship, there's a really strong case to add some gold reserves into your portfolio. It's what I have. I recommend you do the same. And for any of you who have a an old IRA or 401k Birch Gold Group can help you get a tax sheltered 401k or IRA in physical gold. All right. They can help you transfer your old IRA or 401k into a physical gold IRA or 401k makes so much sense and it's a great Set it and forget it. Plan until you need it. Text my Name Buck to 989898 Birchgold will send you a free info kit on Gold A Plus rating with a Better Business Bureau. Tens of thousands of happy customers take control of your savings today and don't wait until the next Democrat administration starts to ruin everything and gold goes through the roof. Get gold now. When people are thinking about some other stuffs necessarily right. You want to get gold when people aren't all necessarily focused in on gold. Got to move before the Herd. Text Buck to 989898 Birchgold will send you that free info kit on gold.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we had Trump talking about the big trade deals. Truly momentous. And we've also got J.D. vance, who was in Ohio and he's speaking there. J.D. covering a whole range of topics. But one thing that I think might have stuck out to people a bit is in the course of talking about the usual things that the vice president would speak about. Remember J.D. vance, a guy who grew up in the heartland under rough circumstances. And if you've read Hillbilly Elegy, his bestselling memoir, you certainly know the challenges that he faced. But as he was in Ohio, he addressed something that you may have seen some viral video of over the weekend. An assault. A gang assault. Really? Or an assault by a gang of people, I should say, a whole group.
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Buck Sexton
Of people.
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Clay Travis
At a jazz festival. And here is how it went. Here's JD Vance talking about it. Play it.
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J.D. Vance
What I saw is a mob of lawless thugs beaten up on an innocent person. And it's disgusting. And I hope every single one of those people who engage in violence is prosecuted to the full extent of law. And they will be. They will be, so long as law enforcement enforcement in the state of Ohio takes their job seriously. I know Dave Yost cares a lot about these things, but. But yeah, I actually, you're right. Bernie did send me a clip of this and we talked a little bit about it. I don't know the full context. I don't know how the fight started. But the one part that I saw that was really gruesome is you had a grown man who sucker punched a middle aged woman. And where I come from, at least when you have a grown man who suckers sucker punches a middle aged woman, that person ought to go to jail for a very long time. And frankly, he's lucky there weren't some better people around because they would have handled it themselves. But if they're not going to handle it, the cops in Cincinnati, the law enforcement, you've got to prosecute people.
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Clay Travis
Clay. I totally agree with JD Sentiment here. Just a couple of quick thoughts on this. First off, as we were about to pull this up, I just wanted the latest details. I couldn't go to the New York Times for it. Yeah, I couldn't go to the Washington Post for it. It's a viral video, millions and millions of views over the weekend. And in the video you see two a white man and a white woman surrounded by people who are black, attack them, are kicking them on the ground, kicking the guy on the ground. And then a woman comes over toward the end, I believe it's, is it his wife or his girlfriend? That's the part I was trying to get the details on. And some other. A guy, again, a black male, punches this woman in the face out of nowhere, knocks her out cold. I mean, looks like she could have had, you know, you can fall down from a punch in the face like that. This has happened. This isn't just theoretical and slip into a coma and die from hitting your head on the concrete. You know, this is these kinds of violent assaults. Our society has to be a little more clear about a few things. Clay. When it comes to criminal justice, I know that people want to treat like Wall street, insider trading, like, you know, you should go to prison for the rest of your life, you know, because that. But actually, violence should be the thing that is violence, sexual violence. These are the things that should be the most severely punished by law. And I think that the laws should be changed. I don't know what they are in individual states necessarily, I don't know what it is in Ohio, but if you are stomping somebody who is defenseless on the ground as part of a gang, there should be, there should be serious enhancements that send you to prison for a long time for that, because there's no excuse and no rationale for that that could be accepted. And then the guy who punched the woman in the face, I mean, it was gruesome. And the media is completely disinterested in this or uninterested in this story?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, Elon Musk yesterday. So I haven't checked today, but you just did a Google search to try to read more about this. And this is what you just heard J.D. vance talk about because he's from Cincinnati and this is from his hometown. And Bernie Marino, newly elected senator from Ohio, shared this video over the weekend. Elon Musk asked this question, why? 0 stories end wokeness on twitter posted 0ap news stories about the attack 0fox news stories about the attack I have seen one fox news story this morning, so that has changed at least 0 PBS news stories about the attack 0 New York Times news stories about the attack 0 NPR news stories about the attack 0 ABC 0 NBC 0 CNN Basically it's as if it hasn't happened. And what J.D. vance particularly referenced there is what you referenced as well, this woman just getting laid out. And I would point out that this is all on video. So there is a certain, there's a certain cultural decision that's being made when you see someone who is innocent getting beaten up and your first thought is, hey, I'm going to get my, my phone out and record it. I don't know how many of these people recording are men, but if you're a man and you see a woman get punched, your thought should not be, oh, I want to make sure I get this on video.
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Clay Travis
Well, that happened at the end, right? That happened at the end. I just want to point out that there's a guy who's on the ground, who's on the concrete, who's being stomped.
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Buck Sexton
By while people are videoing it.
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Clay Travis
While people are video. Yeah, but by four or five different people running up, stomping him as he's defenseless on the ground. You can kill somebody doing that. And anybody who says, oh no, you can't, doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. You can actually kill somebody by stomping them when they're on the ground. And on concrete. It is not that hard for them to get a brain hemorrhage and to die from. Right. It's just a horrific thing to do.
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Buck Sexton
It's, you know, my thought here on how common this has become for and look, I understand if it's like a 12 or 13 year old somewhat, but for society, for people just to stand around while someone is potentially getting murdered in front of you and your first thought is, oh, I'm going to make sure I get this for the gram. Like I'm going to make sure I get this for TikTok, what is the culture that we have created where somebody's on the ground getting stomped on? And a huge percentage of the American public's first thought is, oh, let me make sure I get a good video of this. Not, let me stop the fight from happening. Not, let me stop the person on the ground from potentially being murdered in cold blood right in front of you. But, hey, I want to take this video so I can make sure that it goes viral. I just, I don't get it. And particularly if you're a man and your first thought is you see a woman getting beaten up by a man is, let me make sure that I get this on video. I look, sometimes maybe people are thinking, hey, this is a crime. Let me make sure that I'm getting some video of that crime occurring and being very lenient, maybe sometimes, but it doesn't. Based on the sound and the laughter and everything else, it doesn't seem like people are thinking, hey, I want to make sure I preserve some form of evidence of this violent act.
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Clay Travis
The media is, broadly speaking, completely, like I said, uninterested in the story. The first I did a Google search, just a straight up Google search on this, and the first news coverage that came up is the Hindustan Times. Okay. Yeah, it's weird they covered this story.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
I don't know what kind of reportage the Hindustan Times is generally known for, but I wouldn't think it would be the top of my Google search results. But it was. There's some local coverage of this, like local TV news, but, you know, if it bleeds, it leads local news. They still generally adhere to that maxim. And then there's the other part of this clay, which is anybody, and I'm sure we could have some. Some district attorneys or former, former ADAs call in and tell us the same thing. Nobody involved in this is going to get any really serious punishment. I appreciate that. J.D. vance, the Vice president, says that he hopes that they're punished to the fullest extent of the law. I can tell you they won't be. I can tell you that from friends of mine who have worked for the New York District Attorney's office, there is a sense that, you know, violence, unless somebody is killed or paralyzed or there's something really horrific that is the outcome of it, like that there's a hesitancy to punish violent acts as severely as they can be punished because there's a disproportionate amount of violence from some communities and they don't want to run. They don't want to deal with those statistics. They don't want to say, well, we're, we already have a quote unquote mass incarceration problem in certain low income communities. We don't want to make that situation even worse by punishing violence more severely. They should punish violence more severely, though. This should be the top of the list of what district attorneys go after and say, you can't do this.
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Buck Sexton
The mayor of Cincinnati has finally issued a statement. Eleven minutes ago this came down. He had prior to now not said anything. So I suspect that JD Vance addressing this viral video likely motivated the mayor to put out a statement. Again, this came from his Twitter account just 11 minutes ago. I'm outraged by the vicious fight that occurred downtown. Let me start with this. Calling that a fight is not what I saw.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
That was a melee of a.
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Clay Travis
It was a mob assault. It was, it was a ten on one beatdown of somebody who was very clearly defenseless after the first shove to the ground.
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Buck Sexton
A fight is like one guy and another guy throwing punches at each other. We all know what fights were. If you watch this video, this was not a fight. It was a mob beating the crap out of one person. It's horrifying to watch. The mayor continues of Cincinnati. Unacceptable and disgusting behavior intolerable in any part of our community. That's not who we are as the city. Since the fight occurred, I've been in consistent communication with the chief. Our police have been working around the clock to investigate and bring perpetrators of violence to justice. Based on the investigation and the urgent work of our police, I'm confident arrests are forthcoming. For that reason, we're making every effort to allow our officers to do their jobs and, and present formal results to the public rather than engaging with early speculation. And then that is the statement. So this statement has just been put out in the last 11 minutes, but this has gone mega viral. It will be, we all know, look, here's the reality. If, if this had been a black couple that was beaten by a white mob, it would be the number one story in America. It would be everyone saying, oh my goodness, every, it would be leading every newscast. It would be a sign of white supremacy sweeping through our nation. But white couple gets the crap eaten out of them by a black bomb. By the numbers, by the way, that.
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Clay Travis
Scenario you describe, by the numbers would be incredibly rare. But the media happens would not treat it as incredibly rare. They would go the opposite direction and act like. This is the same thing with police violence. You know, if it's against a If it's against a black guy, we're told this happens all the time. It's actually incredibly rare. You know, excessive police violence. The same thing would be here if you had a white mob beating up a black guy. We would be told, this is the, this is like the new face of America. This is what's happening all the time. They would exaggerate it in the, in the direction of lies.
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Buck Sexton
100%. And so we will see what more comes out of that. Maybe some of you in Cincinnati. We have at times the number one radio show in Cincinnati, in Columbus and in Cleveland. We appreciate all of you all over Ohio listening. But some of you may know more about this or the investigation in the Cincinnati area. You're welcome to call in.
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Clay Travis
I also just think that there should be, I don't know if there are cl. I think that there should be laws that specifically target or specifically punish if you are, if you are part of a group that is kicking somebody who is on the ground. You know, if you punch somebody in the face, that's one thing. If you break a beer bottle on a table and stab somebody in the neck, it's another. Like we do this with violence. If you are stomping somebody who is on the ground, you should get serious prison time. Not, not. I plead down to some misdemeanor and you know, I won't. How many of these individuals you think are stomping this guy on the ground will be their first brush with the law, by the way. Take a guess. Right? I mean, we'll see. But it should be a very clear thing. A society with honor would punish people for doing this, whatever their skin color, whatever their background, all punished severely.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, mob violence. I think again, there is no self defense for mob violence. Right. I think a lot of people out there have seen two guys get in a fight. Not ideal. Obviously we want less violence in the country, but you can understand a face to face fight. Most people can in a lot of different contexts. Much more so than, to your point, guys rolling around on the ground, already knocked down by the mob, and then you just have a bunch of dudes running up and stomping on him. I agree with you. I think that the prosecution should be intense, significant. And to your point earlier, we ought to spend way more time still focusing on violent crime, driving it down, putting those people behind bars. Compared to, let's be honest, a lot of unintentional nonviolent crime that I think oftentimes we, we throw the book at more significantly than we should. Violent crime should be the focus of everybody. Look, if you're looking for another source of energy out there, maybe it's Monday. You had a big weekend. Summer's going on. You were out by the lake, you were out by the pool, you were chasing around the kids or the grandkids. And maybe you're dragging a little bit on this Monday. Maybe you need a little bit of extra pep in your step. That is what chalk can provide for you. Male vitality stack leading ingredient to replenish diminished testosterone levels. As you age, your testosterone declines. Having testosterone in your body is the engine that drives much of male energy in general. And so more testosterone can help you. You can get hooked up@chalk.com that's choq.com my name Clay for a massive discount on any subscription for life. Big time discount. You're going to love it. Check it out. Choq.com My name Clay for that great discount on any subscription for life. Choq.com check out our boy Seaton down in Texas. He has built a fabulous company trying to help everybody all naturally get a little bit more spring in their step with chalk. Choq.com Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Russia, Russia, Russia. You guys all remember that, right? Big hoax. Very frustrating for Trump to have to deal with it the first term, but it is something that we have new and important information about courtesy of our friend Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence. And over the weekend she was speaking about some of what she has found now that she is the DNI who sits atop the entire intelligence community, including the Director of Central Intelligence, which is currently DCIA Ratcliffe. But Tulsi Gabbard was talking about what she is seeing and how there's just no interest from the media that was trying to use the Russia hoax to destroy Trump in the first term to tell the truth. Now, I don't think that's surprising to anybody, but we will continue to follow this and to talk to you about it. Here she is, the DNI on Saturday on Fox News, Fox and Friends, talking about what she's found.
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Podcast Announcer
Play 9 It's been interesting to see how the mainstream media has either refused to cover this story at all the headlines or the lack thereof of newspapers, Washington Post, New York Times and others in the days following this release have have actually been quite deafening in their lack of coverage. And it's interesting to see how when they do cover this, they don't actually cover the revelations that these intelligence reports and the evidence that that we release actually conveys to the American people. They simply talk about their criticisms of it or convey Democrat politicians criticisms of it, but none of them actually dealing with the truth that has been revealed.
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Clay Travis
They don't discuss clay anything in the specifics because we now have more information than ever before about just how manufactured this entire takedown effort, really the soft coup against Trump was. This was. Now it's tough because for people like you and me, we've been following this very closely. So we already knew it was a soft coup. That hasn't changed. That's only being bolstered. I don't think it's that the conclusions are different, but the strength of the details and the scope of the conspiracy is even worse than anybody on our side of this could have known beforehand. Now you see this new information, they really were just cooking up a get rid of Trump campaign in the IC in the intelligence community. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And I think it's just a, again right now. And we talked about this and I give, I gave Trump credit. I don't know if you saw it when Trump came out and said, hey, Obama is going to be protected by the Supreme Court ruling on presidential power, which we talked about a lot last week. I think this is primarily a function of getting the historical record in order and also pointing out how much of a lie this all is. And sadly, everybody listening to us right now, as you just laid out, knew this already. There are still huge portions of the Democrat base that believe Russia rigged the 20, 20, 2016 election for Trump. That that's what they believe. And so the fact that this wasn't any way allowed to happen as in some form or fashion without any sort of significant consequences is I think, just incredibly unfortunate. And by the way, this is I think, also important. I want to play this because I think J.D. vance did an incredible job answering questions from reporters. I don't know how many of you have seen this, but cut 31, an AP reporter asked him if this is where, where we are. Right. A lot of media are not going to cover the, the, the, the revelations of Tulsi Gabbard. They're not going to cover the success of the economy, the success of the border. I give credit to the New York Times for the actually covering over the weekend the fact that violent crime is, is in many ways collapsing. I don't think that's coincidental that cops are able to do their jobs and suddenly violence, crime, violent crime starts to collapse. But notice what the attacks have become. They're actually now attacking Trump for not doing in six months something that Democrats didn't do in four years. And this is the AP trying to attack J.D. vance and President Trump over Epstein. Listen to cut 31. Understand what's going on now. The media and the Democrats don't want any consequences for Epstein. They didn't even ask about this for four years. Now they're trying to tie it because they don't have any other criticisms to J.D. vance and Trump. I just want you to listen to J.D. vance. This is cut 31. How well he handles this question and think about his answer. Cut 31 I got to make an.
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J.D. Vance
Observation that there's an interesting thing about this case that the American media seems to totally ignore. For four years under Joe Biden's Department of Justice, the media didn't give a damn about the Epstein files or about the Epstein case for literally 20 years. The story about this scumbag, and he is a scumbag pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein, he's dead now. But for 20 years, you had Obama and George W. Bush's Department of Justice go easy on this guy. They didn't fully investigate, investigate the case. They didn't show any curiosity about the case. And now Donald J. Trump is asking his Department of Justice to show full transparency. And somehow that's a criticism of Donald J. Trump and not Barack Obama and George W. Bush. If you want to criticize the people who aren't showing full transparency, you ought to go after the administrations that went easy on Jeffrey Epstein, the administrations that concealed this case for 20 years, and the administrations that failed to show full transparency.
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Buck Sexton
I think it's well said. Again, I want as much as they can possibly release out about the Epstein case. But the idea that Democrats in some way have clean hands or the media that's suddenly pretending that this is a big deal despite not covering it by and large, during the entire Biden regime. If you are a Democrat like Hakeem Jeffries or someone of that ilk, Chuck Schumer, now that is trying to make the Epstein case a really big story. I actually give credit because Joe Scarborough, I believe it was Congressman Raskin from Maryland, he had on and we played that audio for you and he said, hey, if this is such a big deal to you, how come you didn't mention it for four years when Joe Biden was in office and he couldn't even answer it? I mean, that's on Morning Joe with Joe Scarborough recognizing what's going on here. They are trying to find they are desperate to find something to attack Trump on.
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Clay Travis
Now for the audience, say something on the, on the, on the whole episode. And I really mean this, this is going to sound, this is going to sound like I'm being supercilious. It's another good word. You know, it's not, not quite tertiary, but it's not a bad word. It's going to sound like I'm being a little salty. But I really think the Democrats, once Biden took office, you know, the Auto Penn administration was so hell bent on January six prosecutions and then prosecutions of Donald Trump. Right. So the criminal cases Against Trump, the Jan6 defense of democracy thing, that I don't know how much bandwidth they really had to focus on anything else. Well, I mean the thing the most, I really mean this. I think the single most important focus of Biden's administration was prosecuting J6 people, destroying their lives and destroying Donald Trump using the legal system. And that was, I think that was tier one. I don't think there was anything that was above that. So I'm not saying this erases the point about why didn't they do anything with the Epstein files, but they really were monomaniacal in their focus on J6 Trump, destroy Trump, prosecute him, throw him in prison. And as you said, Biden was even making snarky remarks about how Trump was going to go to jail. He was going to let Trump go to prison, everybody, meaning he of course colluded in the whole process, but he wasn't going to pardon him. He was going to let Trump go to prison. That was the plan. So it's worth remembering that.
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Buck Sexton
So I think again, there's a legal doctrine, clean hands doctrine, where you can't come in and claim suddenly you care when you're been engaged in dirty behavior yourself. Now, if Trump supporters, I think this is very fair, want to argue, hey, what is the next, what do we think is the next important thing? Right? And the reality is there are 20 different things that are being worked on at any given moment, 40 different things, 50 different things inside of the White House that a lot of people are not paying attention to and it doesn't get a lot of attention, but is actually making the country better, in my opinion. But if, if Trump supporters want to argue, okay, economy, border crime, also men and women's sports, and we need to figure out what's going on with Epstein, all those things, I think that's very valid. But be careful, be careful that you aren't providing the slings and arrows that Democrats are using to try to attack Trump and keep him from doing all of the things that you want him to be doing. Does that make sense? I think sometimes you have to be careful in attacking somebody or disagreeing with somebody publicly. You are creating the arsenal with which the opposition then attacks. Because the Democrats, they're dishonest. The media is dishonest. They didn't care at all about this. They're using Epstein not to try to get justice. They're using Epstein to attack Trump. There is a very big difference between those two things. Democrats don't care about what happened to Epstein. They don't care about his victims. If they did, they would have focused on in the next four years. They just want to get Trump. And this is where I think Trump's frustration comes through. To the extent I'm channeling Trump, he sees that I'm trying to do this is Trump's perspective. Everything we can to get as much information out publicly about the Epstein files as we can. Democrats don't want that. The media doesn't want that. They just want to attack Trump and try to connect him to Epstein. Trump sees that, and I think that's when he's answering and giving the answers that sometimes are frustrating. It's because he's seeing the next level and analyzing the motivations here, as opposed to the actual story, if that makes sense. Because I think everybody's generally in agreement that people who engage in violent acts and people who engage in criminal sex acts should be prosecuted the full extent of the law. I think that's something that the vast majority of Americans all agree on, and certainly the vast majority of Trump supporters do.
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Clay Travis
There's also just a very simple and straightforward observation that we can all share here, which is Democrats only started caring about the Epstein situation when they realized that there was a way to agitate Trump and try to separate Trump from his supporters on this. That's it.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. This whole, this whole thing, this whole, oh, Epstein. And we got to look into the Epstein, they don't. They didn't care about this at all, but they see, you know, they see a way to try to throw a little gasoline on the fire of a little. A little bit of an issue with Trump and some of the MAGA base. And they're, they're just trying to go after that politically. So I'm not surprised that they're doing that. Of course they're going to do that. I knew they would. As soon as there was this, this static that came up on this issue. And I think it's one of the reasons Trump also gets so frustrated now with the questions about it. He goes, the Democrats and the media that are asking about this, it's, they're just trying to create that. They don't actually care what the files could all be blank pages. They don't care. They just know that anything they can do to try to get Trump and his base to be at odds on something they love and that's all that, that's all that they see this as. They don't see this as, you know, finding out, you know, what the elites really are doing. They don't, they don't care about any of that stuff because a lot of the people that are, a lot of the names that come up very clearly Democrat names that come up in the, in the world of, of Epstein stuff. So anyway, or people that make big, big donations to Democrats. Uh, all right, let's talk about steaks. It's summertime. I love cooking steak and eating steak year round. But this summer we're doing some great steak nights here at the Sexton household. Coming from Good Ranchers, I get my Good Ranchers box every month. It's exciting. It's honestly my favorite package that I get in the mail because I open it up and it's just full of all that good Ranchers goodness. You can get the grilling essentials box, maybe the cowboy box. They've got the family feast bundle. 85% of the grass fed beef sold in the U.S. by the way, is imported. So how about we support an all American company, a MAGA meat company, if you will. Good Ranchers, my friend. Absolutely delicious stuff. Steaks, hamburgers, chicken, salmon. And right now, when you subscribe to any Good rancher's box, you get your pick of free meat for life. That's free Wagyu burgers, hot dogs, bacon or chicken wings in every box for the lifetime of your subscription. Big deal, great value. Get an extra $40 off your first box when you use my name Buck as your promo code at checkout. Go to goodranchers.com use promo code buck to get your free meat for life plus $40 off goodranchers.com promo code Buck American meat delivered.
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Buck Sexton
Friday I think we talked about this major cultural shift that has occurred where the idea that, hey, I'm going to put. I know, I know we talked about this some when it was happening because it was so crazy. But the idea that, for instance, Nike was going to put a man who's pretending to be a woman in a sports bra and be like, you should go buy Nikes. And all of us kind of looked around like, this is crazy. And then the thing that really got popular was, hey, really obese people in spandex. Like, hey, you should wear spandex and be really happy with your body, even if you're £300. It was like, well, I, I don't know how I feel about all this. There's really a revolution, I would say, against those ads because by and large, they didn't work. And I talked about this on Friday. Buck. One of the best jobs I ever had, maybe the most fun job I ever had was making $4.50 an hour working at the American Eagle, Rivergate Mall, Goodlettsville, Tennessee when I was in high school. And American Eagle stock has been not good for much of the last five years. I went back and looked at it. It's a very popular retail chain. And they decided, hey, we've got to change our overall mojo. And they said, we're going to hire Sydney Sweeney. And Sydney Sweeney is now doing ads for American Eagle that I think it's fair to say are sexy in nature. And in general. That's going to shock some of you, I think.
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Clay Travis
How do you say it? It is fair to say it is a little, little sexy for a CD Sweeney. Yes. Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Well, some people don't know who Cindy Sweeney is, but, and I understand that in the audience, but the idea being that in general she's bucklesome. Buxom would be a good word. Buxom lass, buxom. Last for sure that in general, one way that products sell themselves is by putting pretty girls in the product and deciding that people want to buy products that pretty girls are trying to sell. And this has been a, a trend for a very, very long time. And so this ad is up and the, what I would call is the sort of fat nose ringed, pink haired contingent of the world out there is angry that brands are going back to good looking girls. And this has gone viral. One of these left wingers, I want to play this for you, Buck, says that the American Eagle ad of Sydney Sweeney is Nazi propaganda.
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Podcast Announcer
Listen, should we be surprised that a company whose name is literally American Eagle.
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Buck Sexton
Is making fascist propaganda like this?
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Podcast Announcer
Probably not, but it's still really shocking.
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Buck Sexton
Like a blonde haired, blue eyed, white.
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Podcast Announcer
Woman is talking about her good genes. Like that is Nazi propaganda.
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Buck Sexton
Nazi propaganda. Not a cute girl in jeans talking about her good genes is Nazi propaganda according to the left. Now I mentioned this, I think on Friday, Buck, I don't know how you've ever been influenced by advertising involving attractive women. I think the most direct result ever. And my wife still makes fun of me about this. I watched the Victoria's Secret fashion calendar show or whatever that thing's called. They do like a Christmas Spectacular. I've heard they do, like, a Christmas spectacular. Bunch of girls in lingerie. I watched it, went out, bought like, $200 in lingerie for my wife, maybe the next day. I mean, I just went and bought everything. And I was like, I'm a stooge. But this worked on me. I'm going to go get everything.
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Clay Travis
Boom.
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Buck Sexton
Bring it back. All right, so I can't speak for all men, but in general, I would say that men are influenced by attractive women trying to get them to buy things. But Nazi propaganda, and the question I asked, and I would love to know, a lot of this, are the same people who were putting fat women into spandex and saying, like, you're healthy, even though obviously if you're super obese, you're not healthy. Like, you should lose weight. Are those the same people, do you think, making the ads now and they just recognize that the cultural winds have shifted, or do you think these companies fired the people who did such an awful job doing. I mean, Victoria's Secret's a perfect example of this. They were like, we're going to do away with supermodels and just put our product on regular people. And people are like, this is not, you know, like, I don't want to know what I'm going to look like. I want to. I want to pretend that I'm going to look way better. Like, I don't buy. I don't buy a bathing suit and think, oh, I'm going to look as good as the guy who's in the bathing suit ad. But I definitely don't want to look like nobody's going to buy an ad. If I'm in the bathing suit, I'm in the bathing suit ad. Like, this is not a way to sell products.
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Clay Travis
I think that the people who were doing the ads before, in many cases are the ones who now have shifted with the wind.
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Buck Sexton
That would be my guess. Same people. They've just completely. They've no principles like that.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. I mean, you see this with a lot of people in the. In the corporate. On the corporate side of things. They just. Whichever way the wind is blowing is how they're going to. As they're. How they're going to go. And I think that this was pretty inevitable. There is a part of this as well that maybe doesn't get as much attention or focus, but the whole body positivity thing. Yeah. As people become more and more health focused, and I really mean that in the broadest term, health focused. But learn more about this stuff and Also as the tools to improve your health dramatically. Not to wait until you are sick, not to, you know, this is not about, you know, the thing you take when you already have the condition so much as it is ways to get yourself into a better day to day health and, and have more energy and all this. The most notable One is the GLP1s. I mean this is a revolution in health. I know lots of people who have taken them with, you know, I'm not doing an ad for them right now, but with incredible results. I am personally a believer in peptides for the future, for longevity for a whole range now peptides, a branch chain amino acid, that's a whole range of things, but this whole range. What I'm saying is the idea that you could be morbidly obese and should be proud of that is very similar to the idea that you could be so anorexic that your, you know, your central nervous system could shut down and people would be like, oh yeah, look at how skinny you are. Right. I mean this, it's deeply unhealthy. And more and more people I think have realized this. I don't mean it's unhealthy like you don't look sexy in a bikini. That's a whole other universe of, of thinking or a whole other perspective on it. It is. You are heading toward a shortened lifespan, less mobility, less energy, poor sleep, type 2 diabetes, heart, all this stuff. So I think body positivity more is, has also clay run into not just the cultural pushback on this madness, but also science. Yeah, the science. You could say. I think people are seeing this more and more. It's also why I would note, and this is a really positive thing, binge drinking in the culture has really gone down substantially. There's a lot of data to support this. Drinking in general is on a decline. You know, excessive drinking, I'm not talking about having a glass of wine or two with dinner, but drinking as a form of almost sport to excess because.
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Buck Sexton
It is horrible for you.
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Clay Travis
And if you want to be healthy and you want to feel good, drinking so much that you wake up the next day with a hangover on a regular basis is essentially throwing a whole, it's throwing a wrench into all of your plans. So I think that this is a pretty seismic shift. And yes, hot chicks are a part of it. That is also true. There's going to be more of a focus on the aspirational side of beauty. Because if everybody is physically beautiful, then like nobody's physically beautiful. Right? I Mean, we're all, we're all doing the best with what we got. Very few of us win the genetics lottery the way that the Victoria's Secret models do. But that doesn't mean that we all just give up and, you know, decide that we're going to go the Rosie o' Donnell route. You know, it can be a little more, you can put a little more thought into your, into your health, into your appearance, into all of those things.
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Buck Sexton
Aspiring to be healthier and stronger and all of those things, I would argue, is one of the most important things, things that young men and young women can be taught. And it doesn't mean that you're going to, to buck's point, look like a Victoria's Secret supermodel if you're a woman, or you're going to look like Superman if you're a guy. But getting in the gym and trying to get stronger is a really good thing. And I do think that younger people are cognizant of this. And there are some negatives, because I'm raising three young boys. There are some negatives I think that their society is embracing that are different than prior generations. You know, there is a benefit to taking risk. A lot of kids today, for instance, don't want to get driver's license. They're happy to just stay on their phones as opposed to going out on dates or going out. You know, I think that's having an impact across the board. But it is true. Like, my kids, when they see someone smoking a cigarette, they react like someone is shooting. As young kids, they would react like someone was shooting up heroin. I grew up in an era when somebody's mom always was smoking cigarettes in the car with the windows all rolled up and, and, and, you know, you were always, like, trying to just get a breath and it's cold outside and, you know, the whole car is just filled with smoke. Heck, I remember, you know, this certainly remember when every bar you went to, there was just a cloud of smoke everywhere. Remember when they had smoking sections in restaurants? And that was a laugh because the smoke just went everywhere. You go into a bar now and there's nobody smoking. I mean, there are a lot of decisions that have been made that I think are beneficial. And I think to your point, young kids are not using drugs now. One downside is they're actually using marijuana, which is much stronger at levels that are somewhat high and that is maybe more destructive than using alcohol would be on some levels, because the marijuana kids are using today is much stronger than the marijuana that would have existed 25 or 30 years ago. And our friend Alex Berenson has wrote a whole piece about how destructive that can be. I think we kind of sold the idea that pot is not dangerous. And the Reformation, the frequent use of pot is actually incredibly dangerous.
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Clay Travis
So there's one of the areas of public policy where I will admit I was, I was. I think it's very rare for me to be bamboozled. But on the it's no big deal. We legalize it. No big problem I have. I am very much in the other direction. I don't think people should obviously get locked up or something for smoking weed. But this notion that we should just allow it. It's everywhere. It's a. It's a total mess in New York City now. You walk down the street, I'm walking down the street with my baby and people are blowing marijuana smoke in our faces all it's disgusting. It's disgusting.
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Buck Sexton
It feels to me almost like marijuana smoking is more common than cigarette smoking now.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, we just replaced I smell marijuana in New York City. I was just there more frequently than I smell cigarette smoke. That is a true statement walking around midtown Manhattan and, and it is not harmless. It is very bad for your mental health. There's a lot of stuff but we were all. We were lied. We were told it was all about getting people, you know treatment for their glaucoma to help with their pain. It was all going to be. It was going to pay for all the schools. Right? The no because when you tax a lot of weed is so easy to make or so easy to grow rather that when you tax it heavily you just. The black market just grows even more because people want to just get it. They don't want to pay these.
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Buck Sexton
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