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Clay Travis
Welcome in Clay Travis. Buck Sexton show live from Washington, D.C. a bunch of different moving parts on the program today. A lot of different stories. Stories underway. We started off the day at the CIA, which I'm allowed to tell you because they took a photograph of us inside of the CIA that I imagine at some in time will be shared. Pretty cool. I've never been to CIA headquarters. Buck, you worked for a long time.
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Like returning to my high school or something.
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Yeah. We met a lot of people doing really good work on behalf of President Trump at the CIA. And we will talk about that a bit as the program progresses. Several different stories to update you on. Elon Musk has apologized, as we suggested would likely be the case to President Trump for his tweets that went mega viral last week. We will discuss what exactly is happening there. Inflation for a fourth straight month has come in below quote, expert economic opinions. The important thing about inflation is not only what is the rate at which it is rising, but more importantly, are your wages rising faster than the cost of goods. For much of Joe Biden's tenure in office, that was not the case. That's why when you went to the grocery store, you had far less money than you did before. It's not just that prices rose, it's that your wages did not keep pace as a whole with the cost of goods that is now flipped. In the President Trump economy, wage growth around 4%, which is very good. The cost of goods growing at about 2.4%, which is low. So that means that every single month you are netting out, on average, everybody's financial circumstances are not the exact same, but more money in your pocket for the goods you are purchasing. Inflation conquered and we should be having and now there is increasing motivation for this. The Fed lowering interest rates, which would be very transformative in a positive way for overall economic circumstances, whether it's for mortgages, whether it's for car loans, whether it is for credit card interest, debt, all of those different things. The borrowing costs would become cheaper. That is the direction we are going. Early this morning, Trump announced also that the China and the United States trade deal has effectively been reached and that we are going to have consistent 50% tariffs in place. China will have a 10% tariff on our goods. And that is another positive story.
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They're going to give a little more rare earth minerals to us in the bargain as well, or more openness to that which is certainly a good thing. So we need some of that. But progress, Clay, on this, which we had been told all along, oh my gosh, Trump is going to run the global economy into a ditch. That's the opposite of what is happening.
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Yes.
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Not a surprise to us.
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We are approaching all time record highs in the stock market. Those record highs set in February. And so they are probably going to be challenged in the near future. We are very close. Which means basically, as we told you, even if you bought stocks for the first time in your life in February, that is, you had never purchased stocks before in the history of your life, you had never had a retirement account, no 401k, no stock ownership, even buck. If you bought at the absolute apex, you could not have bought at a worse time. You bought on the day and the hour that the all time S&P 500 height of all time was hit, you have lost about 1%. So if you just didn't pay attention at all to stock market prices and you bought on the worst day, the all time high was set, you have lost about 1% on paper.
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Yeah, that's going to be very few people, most of, of all of us. The market, the way it most immediately affects you has to do with your 401k, your IRA, your retirement accounts. So you're probably invested in the market in those accounts. If you're in mutual funds for a long period of time and if you've just let the money sit, it's doing what it's supposed to do. Getting rich slowly or being wealthy slowly is the only sure way to do it. And investing in and believing in the US Economy, there are other ways. I know there are quick ways, but I'm just saying if you're looking for a strategy, you want to do it slow and steady. That wins the race. Clay, there's also, I think just victory in the air so far on the protests, which is a major, a major win for the administration. You got the good economic data, the China trade, trade movement, let's say it's not, you know, not a done deal, but there's certainly discussions. I think he had a 90 minute phone call with Xi Jinping a few days back. So Trump is very much. And he's, Isn't it amazing he's doing the phone call?
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We just had an administration, we just had a president of the United States who had people around him having to do everything for him and make sure that he had enough applesauce and nap time throughout the day. Now we have a president who is going up against the most powerful premier in the world who is not the President of the United States. So, number two, and doing, I think, a very good job of it, there's supposed to be some protests elsewhere. We're watching this pretty closely. Texas Governor Abbott, for example, saying Clay, exactly what should be said. Same thing with Governor DeSantis in Florida, I might add. Protest all you want. Protest is great. You want to say that this is horrible, that they're enforcing the law against illegals, you know, subtext, you're nuts. But okay, fine. You know, you're allowed to say that you start hurting people or breaking property or breaking laws, can't, can't block roadways, you're going to get arrested, you're going to be held responsible. Just think about what a difference it is, a vibe shift, as the kids say, from 2020 with BLM riots to now National Guard deployed. We'll get into some of what Gavin Newsom is saying. He clearly is positioning himself as the leader of the nationwide Democrat resistance to Trump. I think he is from Ghostbusters. If we were choosing the form of the destructor, I think Gavin Newsom as the leader of the Democrats is to our benefit, actually. I don't think that he is going to be able to be as effective on this as he certainly thinks he will be. But the fact that they're able to largely, so far could break out and get crazy tomorrow, but largely meet and contain this anarchy on the streets of LA is really encouraging.
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Yeah. And I think it, as we said yesterday, is a lesson that Trump learned in the first term. Now, that doesn't mean that there may not be some chaos in blue states and blue cities. But to your point, I don't think anyone who runs a red state, big red states, Florida with DeSantis, Texas with Abbott. I don't think they're going Brian Kemp in Georgia, Billy in Tennessee, decent population, red states that might have blue cities of a decent population inside of them. I don't think they're going to allow this to get out of control. Now, could this get out of control in some blue cities in blue states? Do I think that Tim Walls is going to stop people from rioting in Minneapolis? Sadly, no. And I bet a lot of you who are listening to us in Minneapolis understand Chicago. I don't have a lot of faith in Pritzker or Brandon Johnson.
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The overall feeling around this, though, the zeitgeist, the, the, the, the sense of the national emotions on the illegal immigration issue is very different as a percentage I think than what it was during the BLM riots. Covid. It was just. It was just this crazy time, and people felt. I think there was just like a mass anxiety disorder that a lot of people were suffering through at that time. And so they were very susceptible to emotional manipulation. That's my belief. I think we saw that play out. And that's not the hardcore left. I just mean a lot of people, all of a sudden, I even do some conservatives, look, there were some Republicans who were like, you know, we need to do police reforms. Like this does not mean we have to do police reform.
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Yes.
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Different now, though, Clay, because 10 plus million illegals come in under Biden. The exploitation of the kindness and decency of the American people. Very clear for all to see. The lawlessness, the destruction of sovereignty and those numbers. We talked about this yesterday, that you have legal immigrants moving 40 points toward. Get these illegals out of here. It is very hard for them to run the usual playbook of this is racist, this is xenophobic. I mean, you have black Americans, Latino Americans, any American, basically, at this point, any group, any is saying, we actually need to have a secure border. A majority of that group is saying, we need to have a secure border. And so when it's all Americans by majority saying what the administration's doing is good, this is why this resistance movement is. Is crumbling. We knew this would be it by the way, the deportations. We said this from the very beginning of Trump's victory. This would be how they try to consolidate. They don't have it yet, but they may get some incident somewhere. They're looking. They want some grandma who seems kindly and elderly to, you know, have an incident where she falls and hits her head during an ICE raid. And then all of a sudden the protests will take on some different emotional dimension.
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I think they are struggling because the overwhelming majority of Americans are on the side of the deportation. And I think they're also struggling because they whiffed in the early days of characterizing this by focusing on guys like Abreu Garcia who are clearly bad dudes and making them the Maryland man, the Maryland father, who actually, according to indictment in my home state of Tennessee, was a human trafficker. It gets harder to make a case when you pick the wrong people to represent the case that you're going to.
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This is really important, what you're hitting on. And it is the Democrats, the one thing that even under the Obama years, and even at least verbally, verbally and openly on during the Biden years, when it came to Border enforcement, it was always, we can agree that violent criminals should be sent out of the country. Now, they didn't actually agree in terms of what they did, but they would say that now they're in a position where it's very clear to anyone paying attention, you guys, meaning the Democrats, the party overall, you don't believe that you actually want them all to stay. You want everyone to stay, including people who are preying on their fellow human beings and fellow Americans, or rather Americans, not fellow Americans here who are illegals and, and doing things that any other country would expel them as quickly as they possibly could as a foreign national committing crimes on their soil. So this is a big, this is a big change in perception.
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I do think that they are using Los Angeles as a test case. And we'll see on Saturday. There's an expectation that they're going to have an all day protest. I think they are trying to create social unrest in the country. Here's the challenge that I think they're going to have. One, overwhelmingly the American public are saying no. Two, what's the end goal? Do you think there's anything they can do that's going to make Trump stop trying to deport people? I just don't think that Trump was susceptible because that was an election year. He was worried about what the optics were. I don't think he's worried about the optics at all because I think he believes he's 100% right.
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I think it was last week I said here, the number one thing that I hear from friends of mine, not in the media, but friends of mine who voted Trump is a version of I voted for this. I'm watching the things happen that made me vote for Trump, in my case, for the third time. You know, some of the people I know, certainly many of them, third time Trump, it's kind of amazing. Think about third time Trump voters haven't voted for Republican, who's not Trump, in, in over a decade, at least for president. And here we are watching how the Democrats are scrambling for some kind of relevancy in opposition to him. And they're forced to do things that I think put them in an even weaker political position going forward. You know, and with these protests, it's not hard for people to see. Hold on a second. You're telling us that illegal aliens are like the fabric of this nation, better than Americans, harder working than Americans, even though they broke the law to be here and all that. And then we see people on the streets by the thousands in Los Angeles and people Waving Mexican flags and breaking laws and waving other, you know, flags of other countries, particularly Latin American countries and breaking our laws. Yeah, that's why we want illegals to port it. Right. I mean, this is the optics of this. What people were seeing, and you mentioned this on X, was supportive of their perception that we have a problem that needs to be solved with illegals who have developed political power in places like Los Angeles. Think about this. Illegal aliens are an important, an important constituency of Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles and of Governor Gavin Newsom of California. People that aren't even supposed to be in the country in the first place. And that's a slap in the face, that's an outrage to Americans who do have nothing but allegiance and fealty and love for this place. And increasingly it's just, it's all Americans, all colors, races, creeds, all people who are actually supposed to be here. More and more of them. I know there are Democrats who are still insane, but they're saying we don't have a country if we can't determine who's here. That's pretty obvious.
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Do it for clay. Do it for freedom. And get great content while you're there. The Clay, Travis and buck sexton show YouTube channel the protests in Los Angeles seem to be contained for right now, although elsewhere there are reports of efforts to spread this protest movement, including in Texas. I've seen San Antonio. I've got a whole, whole bunch of places that may have these protests in the days ahead. So we will continue to follow this very closely. And that's something that we want to keep an eye on because, yeah, it could flare up again. But in the meantime, I think this round has clearly been a victory for not just Donald Trump and the Republicans. It's just a victory for the rule of law, a victory for sanity. And this is why Gavin Newsom has decided, as the governor of California. Wall Street Journal piece today, Clay, naming him as the leader of the opposition. Right. That this is how he's trying to position himself, at least. And Gavin Newsom gave a speech last night which I think was very clearly directed at that outcome of. Oh, Gavin Newsom is now the premier Democrat in America standing against Trump. Problem is, I think the politics of this are far more treacherous nationally. Not in California, sure, but nationally for Gavin Newsom than maybe he even realizes. But here he is. You knew this was coming, that the emotional blackmail, the, oh, my gosh, these are the best people that are being arrested. Why is he allowing this? This is cut for Gavin Newsom. Addressed California, really addressed the nation last night. Play it.
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Andrew Cuomo
Trump is pulling a military dragnet all across Los Angeles, well beyond his stated intent to just go after violent and serious criminals. His agents are arresting dishwashers, gardeners, day laborers, and seamstresses. That's just weakness. Weakness masquerading as strength. Donald Trump's government isn't protecting our communities, they're traumatizing our communities. And that seems to be the entire point. If some of us could be snatched off the streets without a warrant, based only on suspicion or skin color, then none of us are safe.
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Clay Travis
I don't think anyone's going to deport Gavin Newsom. Okay? This none of us are safe thing is absurd. I also think, Clay, that it's very clear, given what the Biden administration did, you can't. That 10 million number, they can't run from that. And everyone knows, okay, so you guys, when you're in charge, the Democrats are in charge, the laws, all of a sudden, the same laws that bind us in so many different ways that we may or may not agree with. Right. Depends on what you're talking about. Those same laws include laws on immigration and on the illegal presence that is unfortunately, far too common all across this country. When Gavin Newsom says this stuff and he goes, they're arresting dishwashers, washers, et cetera. A lot of people say, well, are they illegal? And if they are, the answer is, okay, then that's the law.
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Yeah. And to me, this is not even about ICE or the raids or anything else. I think Gavin Newsom, who is a calculated guy, has made the decision, this is my way to launch my 2028 presidential campaign. And so remember, by January of 2027, there will be a full on presidential campaign underway. Iowa, New Hampshire, January, February 2028. I know it sounds like it's a long time away, but all of these guys are going to be raising money in the next 18 months so that when they announce right after the midterms in January of 2027. Heck, remember, Trump himself announced in November of 2022 that he was going to be running for reelection. And DeSantis really took it on the chin because he didn't announce until May of 2023 that he was running. And they tried to hold out for the Florida legislative session to be over. And Trump identified DeSantis as the only contender and basically started throwing punches at him immediately. And DeSantis waited a long time to respond. And by the time he did, it was over. Now, I don't know, once the raid happened on Mar a Lago In August of 22, if I'm remembering the chronology correctly, I don't know that anybody could have beaten Trump to be the nominee. But I think that the clear decision made by Newsom here is I'm going to run anti Trump, which is positive in the Democrat primary. This is the best way for me to distinguish myself. Here's the challenge. Gavin Newsom thinks that Americans still look to California and see it as an aspirational goal. The problem is most people don't see it that way anymore. And you've talked about this and I grew up in the same era that you did, Buck. Where California in the 90s?
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Yeah.
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Was it like a place that everybody wanted to be? California in the early 2000s was a place that everybody wanted to be. I think running as I'm going to make America more like California is a disaster. And this is one thing that I think Ron DeSantis was right about. And if we had gotten DeSantis versus Newsom in 2024, I think that DeSantis would have won comfortably. And if we get DeSantis versus Newsom in 2028, I think that Ron DeSantis would, would win comfortably. America doesn't want itself to look like California. And I think that Gavin Newsom is living a generation behind in the way that he believes America sees his state. That to me, what stands out here.
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I also think that they have done a very poor job of opposing Trump in a way that would bring over people who don't already hate Trump. Right. If you're trying to win over anybody who hasn't been anti Trump all along, they're all the stuff that they're saying about this, I think is creating a bigger problem for them in a lot of ways. Here's an example. Cuomo, who may be the next governor of New York City. This is cut 29. This is now going over to New York. I'm gonna say governor, mayor, mayor of New York City, former governor of New York, mayor of New York City. Although this other guy. We'll talk to our New York experts here later on about this, the Democrat primary. But here is the former governor of New York saying something that I think you all need to hear. This goes into the diversity is our strength situation. Play 29.
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Unknown Speaker
We are the capital of diversity. 180 languages spoken in our school system. 180 different languages, people from all across the world. That makes us stronger, not weaker.
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Clay Travis
That is actually not a good thing, Clay. It does not make. Now think about this. I understand people say, oh, but Buck people from all over the world isn't so amazing. English as a second language instruction is a huge problem in a lot of public schools. An enormous drain on resources. And there are the kids who speak English are having a tough enough time getting to proficiency. You're bringing kids from all over the world who come from non English. I'm talking about not talking about parents who show up who speak English. I'm talking about people whose parents speak very little, if any English, are on public assistance of some kind, which we know they can get in New York, we know they can get in California. Now they're in the school system. And now you're trying to teach them the skills and particularly the language skills necessary to operate at fifth grade, eighth grade, second grade, high school, whatever it may be, enormously slows down the rest of the class, enormously obstructs and costs more in learning. But this is the thing. Oh, 180 languages are spoken. The one thing that I want, the Trump. And maybe we can bring this up tomorrow. English is the national language. English as the national language. Full stop that. And I live in South Florida. I got to tell you, I love my South Florida. But we need more English as the national language down there, too. This is something that unites us all. How can you understand the law, truly understand the law in this country if you don't speak English?
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You can't. And I mean, I would just go back to the biblical story of the Tower of Babel. I mean, the goal of building a great Building in the Bible was destroyed by the number of languages that suddenly everybody had to speak. And this is, this is why banal commentary like diversity is our strength is actually not true. Right. And what I mean by that is diversity of thought is a strength, but in order to communicate that diversity of thought, you have to be able to speak a common language. So in order to have diversity as a strength, there has to be an agreement on its baseline foundational levels that allow the communication to take place. And I don't think it's a bad thing to have kids learning English. I think the problem that you're speaking of, Buck, is there are a lot of people who come to America and aren't bothering to learn English. They aren't trying to assimilate in some way to speak with the larger community around them and 180 different languages. How in the world can a public school accommodate that kind of diversity of language when it comes to being able to instruct everybody? And so, look, I understand what, what Mayor Cuomo is trying to say because, by the way, he's running for President in 2028 by winning Mayor's.
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Mayor's race. Yeah. But New York City last year had, by their own assessments, 50% proficiency at grade level in reading and math.
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Yeah.
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So half of New York City public school kids, to be not proficient based on these public school standards means you, you are way below where you need to be. This is not. That's. Remember, proficiency is not. I'm getting an A. I'm good.
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Yeah.
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Proficiency means you can operate at that level, generally speaking. So to be non proficient. And so in that situation, you grow up, you're a, you're a kid, you're a Latino American kid, you're a black American kid in poor parts of New York City. And you're, you know, you want more attention, you want more resources, you want a better shot. And then you've got the illegal migrants who are showing up, 150,000 of them in one year in New York, I think, was that it was the height of it. And then they're all going into the school system. Of course that's going to slow things down. Of course that's going to make the budgets of the school system more strained than they already are, or, you know, they get a lot of money, but that's a whole other conversation. And it's just, this is basic common sense. What other country Clay is prancing around and talking about how great it is, or what are their politicians, maybe some places in Europe that have the same Problems. We do. But you don't have this anywhere else in the world where they say, you know what? We want as many people as possible to show up here who don't speak the language and know nothing about this place. Let's get that going on.
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Well, I think the challenge, too is you said that they're saying 50% of New York City kids are proficient in reading and math. One of the big problems we have in America today is, is that we continue to define standards of proficiency down. So it's not only that, yes, let's say 50% of kids are proficient. It's that proficiency in 2024 and 2025 is quite a lot different than proficiency in 1984 and 1980.
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And by the way, that actually the way they shared that statistic, a third of New York City fourth graders last year were proficient in math, 1/3 proficient, 2/3 not proficient the fourth grade level. And once you get behind at those. Look, we can. I don't want to make this just an education discussion, but the point here is people recognize there are very. This is why the, the busing people to Democrat strongholds. Okay, fine. You want to play this game? Go to New York, go to Chicago. Let those cities deal with it. This is what Governor Abbott, Abbott did in Texas. Ron DeSantis did some of this as well in Florida, and it was fine. You take these illegals. Yes, they are very much a drain on public resources. And there are people that need those resources who are saying, what's going on here? Why are we devoting this to people who aren't even supposed to be in the country in the first place?
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No doubt. And again, I think the, under sort of the foundational story that's going on here is you're already starting to see aggressive jockeying to win the Democrat primary. Prepare yourselves. If Andrew Cuomo wins the mayorship of New York City, and I think he will, he's going to run for President in 2028. This is his redemption arc. He can say, the people of New York forced him out as governor. He's already saying he shouldn't have left, that he didn't actually sexually harass anybody. He's gonna say, that's in the past. I've done a great job as mayor. I'm just telling you what his argument's gonna be. And Gavin Newsom is coming against Trump because he's gonna run. They're all setting up for that primary, and you're going to have New York top official. Kathy Hochul's out. You know, Chuck Schumer's not running. Maybe AOC will vote for me.
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That is Andrew Cuomo on the show right now. Let me also point this out, Buck. AOC endorsed Andrew Cuomo's top rival. That's the.
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You want to talk about a guy who keeps who holds grudges. Cuomo, famously a nasty infighter in politics who holds a grudge forever.
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But don't mistake. That's not because she cares who the mayor of New York City is. That's because she wants to cut Andrew Cuomo's legs out from underneath him because if he doesn't get elected mayor, she's the forefront New York national candidate in 2028. So sometimes you have to look at not just the text, but the subtext of what's going on. And I think you're already seeing the political jockeying for who is going to run in 28. And by the way, you know what Gavin Newsom will say? He'll say Trump is the worst human who's ever existed in the Democrat primary. If he were the nominee, do you know what he'd try to do? He'd try to say, you know, Trump actually got a lot right when he ran for president in 2028. I had a good relationship with him. That's the pivot that you would immediately see. Sprint to the left, become the Democrat, you get elected anti Trump, sprint back to the center. Trump had good ideas, but I can implement some of them to appeal to moderate voters. He wasn't actually the Antichrist. He wasn't actually Hitler. But first you have to say, he's the Antichrist and he's Hitler. It's so predictable. But I think it's important to note, just pay attention to what's being said. Look behind what's being said here. Look, we don't talk about it all the time because it's not an easy conversation to have, but the will and trust universe is incredibly important if you don't want to burden your family members when your life passes. You know, so many times out there, you focus on trying to make the life easier for your kids, for your grandkids. And you're doing that because you're working all the time. You're doing that because you are trying to pay off that mortgage. You're trying to set up the college funds. You're trying to do everything you can to help your kids and grandkids. But are you taking care of tying up all the Loose ends so your kids and your grandkids don't end up fighting after you pass. The best thing you can do is have a very defined will, a trust document that lays out for the people who you are caring about the most in your life so they don't end up fighting after you're gone, so that you are continuing to think about them even while you are alive today. And a lot of people just don't do that. You work all those hours, you do everything you can to help take care of your family, and then something unexpected passes and they have no idea what you would want, and they end up fighting over what your wishes might be. Why not go ahead and eliminate that from ever being an issue by going to trustandwill.com they make it simple, affordable results will give you peace of mind. Right now, you and your family members, the people you love the most, they have clarity. They're not arguing about what you wanted. You are deciding it for yourself. Again, it's not expensive, it's affordable, and it will help take care of your family, which is what most of you out there are spending your entire lives trying to do. Go, I have this buck has this trust in Willcom. They're experts in creating personalized trusts and wills that will protect your legacy and keep your family from battling after you are gone. What you would want, want to do, just decide it now, once and for all. Trustandwill.com that's trustandwill.com we're joined now by Miranda Devine. I think it's probably fair to say. Oh, we got Carol Markowitz, too. I was going to give you the title of our favorite person at the New York Post, but we really like Carol Markowitz, too. So I don't want to offend anybody out there. Miranda, you just had a sit down with President Trump in the Oval Office. It is ricocheting about the Internet now, and there are many different things. I know that he told you. What stood out to you the most about the interview that you had with President Trump from a news perspective.
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iHeart Podcast
Thanks so much. And Carol is great. She's a mate of mine, so I'm glad you like us both. Look, Donald Trump was just incredibly generous with his time and also his candor. He is just so frank, you know, sometimes like when we talked about Camp David, couldn't really, he said, oh, I can't really talk about it. Then did say that they'd been talking about, you know, obviously Iran and Russia. He gave, you know, a lot of insight into his conversations with World leaders, his problems with Elon. He's sort of open to reconciliation, but, you know, not right now. He's too busy. And also some of his childhood experiences. You know, his father bundled him off to military school at 13 because he was so rambunctious and his father wasn't terribly thrilled when they got back some aptitude test scores for diagnosis.
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Clay Travis
We might have just lost her there for a minute. Sounded like she popped out. I hope that doesn't mean that we've popped out. So I'm going to keep talking until the team tells me whether or not we've popped out. But Buck, this is Miranda Devine. They the podcast called AirPod 1 and it is underway right now. And I do think it speaks to Pod Force One, sorry is the name of her podcast. She's back with us right now. Miranda, you popped out right there. You were talking about Donald Trump, talking about his dad shipping him off to military school and, and that's where we lost you. What, what did he talk about there?
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iHeart Podcast
So, yeah, his dad shipped him off to military school at age 13 because he was so rambunctious. He wanted to get him straightened out a bit. And also his parents sent him off to aptitude testing when he was a young boy. And his father was not altogether thrilled to find out that Trump's genius is musical. He is a musical genius. Apparently he can pick a notion, remember it, you know, an hour later. So he, he sort of laughed Riley and said, well, you know, that wasn't really a talent my father particularly wanted me to have. But his mother got him to after that, learn a musical instrument and you will never guess what it was.
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Clay Travis
Well.
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Played the audio already. Oh, yeah, and the memes are rolling in because I have been attacking men.
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Who play, has been attacking male flute players. He leaves the ladies out of this, but male flute players, he decides. Miranda, there's, there's some. Quay's asking questions. I asked so many questions for some of our flute playing audience.
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If you have a choice to play any instrument in the world and you pick the flute, you have chosen very poorly and I think that you cannot be trusted for anything serious. Now, Trump said he might have had a great flute playing future, but instead he gave that up and became a multi billionaire developer. I give him credit for abandoning the flute and president.
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iHeart Podcast
Well, he said he didn't like it. So his mother had sent all these instructors to the house to get him taught to play the flute, but he did not want to play the flute. So that didn't last for very Long. And I mean, it's just amusing. Of all the instruments, I can't think of one that's less appropriate for Donald Trump.
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Clay Travis
By the way, he and Lizzo could have been out there playing the, was it the James Madison?
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Donald Trump could have single handedly rehabilitated the whole flute image among the, among the orchestral instrument and woodwind community. So there's a little bit of a loss here for us, Miranda, because I think that Trump could have, you know, he could have made flutes great again and instead he decided to become president and try to save the free world. How, how is it, you know, this is one of these things where Trump talks, I think, to enough people and we hear how he feels on a lot of these policy things, enough that we're pretty up to date, pretty in tune, if you will, with what his thinking is on a lot of things. But in terms of his poise, the sense that this time around he learned a lot the first time. I mean, just take us into his mindset a little bit from sitting down with him and what you felt like you were gathering from this guy who still has the weight of the world on his shoulders, but always seems calm, cool and collected, except when he's a little angry. But, you know, for the most part, yeah, he is.
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iHeart Podcast
And it's that confidence and sort of New York swagger that he's just had. He's really, he, as far as back as he can remember, he says, it's just, he does, you know, I said, you sort of act against the grain quite often. And he says, well, you know, I've got the hat that says Trump was always right. But he says, I just, it's, I don't feel that I'm a rebel. I just have an innate sense of what's the right thing to do and I do it and I don't really care what other people say. And he said, for instance, he pointed to the LA riots and you know, last time he sort of regretted in 2020 that he wasn't as forceful that he said at the time, well, I just thought really I would leave it to the governors to make those decisions. But obviously the blue states, the blue governors did not do that. Whether it was because they thought that they, you know, it would be a great way of beating Donald Trump at the polls later that year, which I guess worked. But this time around, he said this is a much more consequential presidency. He feels it because, well, in part, he said because he's got.
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Clay Travis
Did we lose her again? I think we might have lost her again.
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I'm back. Oh, she's back.
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iHeart Podcast
Yeah. I'm very sorry about that. My stupid phone. And, yeah, he just feels like he's got a better team. More. More. Like, he said that I had some stars last time, but I had some losers. And he fits in that category.
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Clay Travis
He did. And it's important that he recognized that. I think. Miranda and one of the challenges early on was Trump was this political phenomena. Talking about term one, you know, first. First administration, he's this political phenomenon. But a lot of us who were, who voted for Trump in 2016, who were excited about it, some of the people that were in charge, whether it was the Mooch or some of the others that got into that administration, we all knew right away, well, this is not a, you know, this is not a good idea. And Trump realized that. And this time around, I look at the team that he's picked, and I think the. It's not just that we think it's good. The results, the speed, the efficiency with which they're moving on the agenda is the, you know, at this stage, at least, they still have a lot to do. But that is the result of somebody, or those are the actions of somebody who I think, clearly learned a lot on the job the first time around and came ready to play day one this time.
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iHeart Podcast
Yes. And he said that. He, in fact, said, you know, having that four years in between, I mean, he could not have been more negative about Joe Biden and how he destroyed the country. But he said people saw how bad it was and, you know, he'd fixed the border, but he got no credit for it. But this time, he's absolutely determined to undo the damage, and he's confident that he will be able to do it. He's very bullish on the economy and his big, beautiful bill. He says, well, he says only phase one, he's got other things to do. And he reckons that the economic boost that it will give us will pay for. They'll be able to start paying down the debt. So, you know, and that was sort of riposte to Elon, and he's just very bullish and confident. The only thing I did pick up was, you know, he's. He's disappointed about Iran. He said he really thought they were going to get the deal done, but just the last few days, he's realized, he said, they've changed. And I asked, what do you mean they've changed? And he wouldn't really be drawn on that, but he just said he felt that they wanted to do a deal before. Now he's not so sure. But either way, he said they're not getting a nuclear bomb. They are not. That's not happening. And, you know, it can either happen the nice way, or he really doesn't want people to die, but they're not getting the nuclear bomb.
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Clay Travis
Where does this go in your mind, the Elon Trump relationship? A lot of drama. Trump. Elon apologized to Trump publicly last night, it seems, and I bet you felt kind of the same way, that Trump has been somewhat restrained in his response to Elon. And there's reports out there that he basically considers elon to be 50% genius, 50% boy, kid. And I do think there's some truth to that as well. How would you assess where this goes from here?
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iHeart Podcast
Yeah, you're absolutely spot on. I mean, he does, you know, he. I think I got the impression when they were still in good company together that Trump was fascinated by him because of his success and, I guess, his brilliance. And so he was sort of watching him and looking at him and engaged in conversation with him, but listening very intently, almost like you look at an insect under the glass, you know, in a mean way, in a nice way. I mean, he's quite paternal with him. I felt Elon Musk treated Donald Trump as a father figure, which is really why it's so sad that it's all blown up. And look, I asked Donald Trump a few times about Elon, and he. He said, look, I don't bear any ill will towards him, but I am just too busy fixing the world. I'm not thinking about him. And, you know, I believe, you know, Elon may have tried to reach out a couple of times or, you know, I don't a bit. Not that Donald Trump told me that, but I heard that somewhere else. And we. And I think that he's just letting him cool off. And I don't know that Donald Trump will ever be able to have that same very close relationship, because Elon, even though he's apologized, he kind of broke something.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, there are things you can't say. I think we all just know this from our own lives, Whether it's to your spouse or to a colleague or a close friend, there are lines, and he definitely crossed some lines that are. That I don't think will be able to be undone. But I also think that they'll collaborate as needed in the future, but from a more, shall we say, professional distance and less of almost like adopted son status, which is what Elon. It felt like Elon was Getting there for a while.
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iHeart Podcast
Yes. And, I mean, Elon's own father was so disastrous for him. I think that's a need that he has. And, you know, it was a real bromance. I mean, he was sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom. He really admired Donald Trump enormously. And it was almost a childlike from my observation. And certainly I think that's the way Donald Trump felt. But, you know, you just can't go back. And maybe it's a lesson that Elon will have. But look, Donald Trump is showing that he's not going to be nasty to Elon, and he really could have. Normally, he strikes back quite unkindly, but he also is quite a sensitive man. I think he has insight into other people's feelings, and I think he knew that Elon was sort of in a bit of a manic phase and would regret what he'd said, which obviously he has because he's tweeted, poor thing. I mean, you wouldn't want to be Elon.
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Clay Travis
Well, people can go listen to the full interview of Pod Force One. Correct?
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iHeart Podcast
Pod Force One, yes.
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Clay Travis
Pod Force One with Miranda Devine. Go check it out wherever you get your podcast. Miranda, always great work. Thanks for hanging out with us.
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iHeart Podcast
Thank you so much for having me.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Sacrifice.
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J.R. Martinez
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Buck Sexton
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Clay Travis
He's Joe Getty.
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Buck Sexton
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
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Clay Travis
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
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Buck Sexton
We have a winner. Yes, listen to Armstrong and Yeti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
No surprise here. A lot of you weighing in on Clay's idea that he could beat a WNBA player and people are fired up about this. Clay, I've got to say I could.
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Beat a big woman and I'm not insulting a big women by saying that he means tall. Yes.
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Not, not like burly, not like obese.
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Although I do think fat women would.
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Have a chop time with soft dig is the preferred.
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Like a 4 or a 5, a power forward or a center. A big woman meaning tall. I think that they can't handle the ball and I. They can't shoot. I would beat Angel Reese one on one. I offered $100,000 and a head to head matchup. That's more than she makes to play a whole year in the wnba and she blocked me.
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Okay.
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On toast. Well, we have, we have not in real life.
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Perhaps a dose of sanity here from cc, a podcast listener named Charles. He wanted to weigh in on this idea. Play it. Play Buck. Love the show. But Clay, you cannot be Angel. I would love to see that though.
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I think I would.
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I. I honestly would love to. Like I'll throw money into this pot too. I'm excited about this idea.
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I think if I trained I would smoke her. My eighth grade son, his basketball team, they offered to put me through. This would be a good documentary. They were going to put me through training. They're pretty good. I think they got some future D1.
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What are your. Let's talk it. So. So my moves back in the day, I like to go to the hoop. Yeah, I was a shooter, but I like to go to the hoop. I was a big double pump layup guy. That was my favorite.
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You had an old man, white man. Oh yeah.
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I was big into boxing out. You know, I knew that boxing out. The coach would always be excited if you did that. But what was your go to? Are you a skyhook guy?
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I would. I would. So first of all, I'm 46 now. So my biggest concern about a one on one matchup and I'm just talking.
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About half blowing out your ACL probably.
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Oh yeah. Or a bad sprained ankle and not being able to finish the game. I don't. The Angel Reese makes about 35% of her shots and I understand some of those are contested. She's not shooting more than five feet away from the basket. I don't think she could make contested shots against me. Now I am concerned for the point guards or the shooting guards. Who can handle the basketball. I think they could get to the basket and make step back shots on me. I don't think Angel Reese could score on me.
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That's why you get the old man hip check. You know what I mean? You got to throw that weight around a little bit.
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I mean Angel Reese is six three. I am six foot. I bet with we probably jump about the same height. It's not like she's gonna dunk on me. I think I could box her out. I think I'm a better outside shooter than Angel Reese. And if I got video of you.
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Popping the if I got can see if you actually can shoot.
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If I got to play with the girl sized basketball, which is smaller, I could palm that thing like I'm Shaquille o' Neal. I would make a lot of outside shots if I. It's like a pop of shot shot.
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You remember when Ted Cruz played Jimmy Kimmel? I'll tell you, I. I would smoke Jimmy Kimmel in one on one. Do you think you could be Jimmy Kimmel one on one?
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Yes.
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Okay, now. All right. All right.
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Yeah, I think, I think I would.
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Beat Jimmy's question is you versus Ted.
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I think, I think I would be Ted Cruz.
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Ted. You hear that? Senator Cruz. Paging Senator Cruz.
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J.R. Martinez
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
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J.R. Martinez
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Buck Sexton
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Clay Travis
He's Joe Getty.
- [58:09]
Buck Sexton
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
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Buck Sexton
We have a winner. Yes. Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
This is an iHeart podcast.