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In Friday Edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I hope all of you are hanging out with us and headed into the weekend for a fabulous weekend. Buck, I believe, is still on the French Riviera. I don't know when he officially flies back, but this morning I was doing prep for the show and I was reading about all the super fancy parties that he was been attending and all of the flagrant excess advertising universe that has been engaged in Cannes for the past week. So I can't wait to hear what he is going to have to say about life on the French Riviera when he returns to the radio with me on Monday. But I've enjoyed hanging out with all of you throughout the course of this week. We will be back together again on the Monday edition of the program and I'll actually be up in Michigan. We've got a brand new awesome affiliate in the northern Michigan area, Traverse City in particular. I know that a lot of you are listening in that area and I'll be broadcasting from Traverse City, Michigan, which is one of my favorite places in the United States in the summer. Absolutely fantastic up there. So look forward to seeing some of you running around in the Michigan area. My wife of course, from Michigan. So we're going to be up there with some friends and family and I'll be doing the program with all of you there and look forward to to meeting a new affiliate in Traverse City and many of you that may be getting used to listening to us there. All right, we're going to have some fun. It is the 50th anniversary of Jaws, the release of the movie Jaws 1975. That movie came out, I would suggest to you, and we're going to dive into this later, but you guys can already start to lose your minds or say, you know what, Clay, you're actually brilliant. This a hundred percent true. I think Jaws is the most influential movie that has ever been made in the history of film. And when I say that, I don't mean that it's the best. I don't mean that it had changed the conversation on politics or that it led to freedom or it led to any massive societal change. When I say the most influential, I mean that there is almost no one that has ever watched that movie that has not thought about Jaws. At a minimum, when you go to the beach, and I bet there are a lot of you who even when you have been jumping in lakes and even maybe when you've been in swimming pools after watching Jaws, actually thought, oh man, I hope there's not a great white shark that is going to eat me during the course of this swim. Fresh water lakes, not Even big lakes, like lakes where you can see the boundary. I remember after watching Jaws when I was a little kid swimming in a pool at night, I was like, oh, there, there may be a shark in here. And it wasn't in Florida, by the way, where I was like, oh, there may be an alligator in here. So we'll have some Fun with that 50th anniversary Friday edition at a minimum in the third hour, no guests scheduled. You guys have been killing it on the talkback, so we will have a bunch of fun with those as well. All that headed this direction. But I saw this morning as I was doing my prep what felt and by the way, we'll update you to the extent that there's any movement at all on the absolute latest as it pertains to what's going on with Iran and Israel. So far it does not appear there have been massive changes since we talked to you yesterday and shared the news that Trump had said there's a two week window and we'll see how that's going to shake out. Okay, so let me, let me dive into something that I thought was significant as I was doing my pre reading prep today. We have talked about the big Supreme Court decision that came down on Wednesday that said the state of Tennessee has the right to keep young minor children from having so called gender altering surgeries. However you want to classify it, that is potentially your genitals could be chopped off because you happen to think you're a boy or a girl or vice versa, which is different than the body that you were actually in. Front page story from the primary. I would still say Democrat mouthpiece in media. The New York Times headline democrats wary response to Transgender Ruling shows the party's retreat. That's the headline today's front page New York Times. While some in the party denounced the Supreme Court's decision, other top leaders remained quiet, underscoring the party's discomfort on the issue. Another way of talking about this would be that Democrats have been proven wrong on this. Uh, and, and I just thought this entire article was very interesting. Leading Democrats opening sentence offered a slow trickle of critical reaction on Wednesday to the Supreme Court's decision upholding a state ban on some transgender care for youth. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Hours after the ruling arrived, some top Democrats like Chuck Schumer had statements. But you know, Chuck Schumer is never going to run for President of the United States. He represents the Senate Democrat coalition. And so that didn't really surprise me. But Here is the third paragraph. Many others, including key players in the 2028 shadow primary race had yet to weigh in. Gavin Newsom, at least at the time that this was written, nothing. Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, Nothing. Westmore of Maryland, Nothing. Asked for comment. Representatives for all three governors said they were not issuing any statements on the decision. For now, this is what victory looks like. They also reached out to the to Mayor Pete, to other people. And by and large, this was again to what to a great degree ignored. And it the front page article again in the New York Times points to and I've been thinking about this ad quite a lot because I've got a new book coming out. It's called Balls B A L L S about how Trump won men and sports fans and how we all saved the nation in 2024. Very underst you, in case you're wondering. Also has two big pictures of basketballs on the COVID You guys are going to love it. There's going to be a lot of people that lose their mind over it. It's going to be out in November. And and the book basically argues that young men, sports fans and Trump saved America in 2024. And one of the parts of the book is this front page article. Kamala is for they them President Trump is for you. I would submit to you that that might be the single most effective political ad that any presidential candidate has run in my life. I know there's been a lot of them, but the data reflects that. That ad that Kamal is for they them President Trump is for you because I've been doing research on it for the book moved in the favorable direction towards Trump 2.7 points. It worked well for moms, white moms. It worked well for black and Hispanic men. Those were groups that were particularly impacted by that ad, which I think speaks to the scope of disgust that has settled in. Now. Men competing in women's sports is a part of it, but I would argue the far more significant component to this is, hey, if Your son is 15 and thinks he's a girl, we should chop his penis off. I mean that is Democrat orthodoxy right now. But they are getting rejected nationwide. Front page credit to the Supreme Court. But front page news in the New York Times pointing out that Democrats are now running from this issue. And the other thing that I thought signed in here was there is a new poll out from Coefficient talking about who are the favorites for Democrat presidential nomination in 2028. I just mentioned some of them to you there. Kamala Harris, 26% support Gavin Newsom, 21% support AOC, 14% support Mayor Pete, 11%, Walls 10%. Josh Shapiro, 3%. That's the top six. I would submit to you that the top five. Here, you can clip this. You can save it. You can call me a moron if I'm wrong. On early November of 2028, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom AOC Mayor Pete and Tim Walls, they have a zero percent chance of being elected President of the United States. They may be the nominee. I'm not saying that that's impossible, but I think Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom AOC Mayor Pete and Tim Walls have a zero percent chance. Now Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania. Problem he has, unfortunately for him, is he's Jewish and a large contingent of the Democrat base doesn't like Jewish people that's going to be voting in the primary. That's why I think he wasn't the nominee as Vice president. So that's an issue for him. I think Wes Moore is going to run. Wes Moore, I think has been making some solidly strategic moves. Very popular, Maryland governor, not a crazy person. I know he's been reaching out to President Trump frequently and they actually have a decent relationship. I think Trump would tell you that. And Westmore has a military athletes background. He's not a Pussy Willow like a lot of Democrats and frankly a lot of people don't know him. Uh, and so I think that helps. But I don't think anybody with a major public profile that is a Democrat right now can get elected in 2028 because they've all gone over the woke waterfall and they've embraced such crazy, what I would say is fundamentally rejected by most reasonable American positions. And that was, you know, the Kamala's for they them Trumps for you ad really built off the idea that Kamala Harris said that illegal immigrants should get trans surgeries paid for by taxpayers. She supported that. And I think that Democrats have had to support so many ridiculous stories and just flagrantly ridiculous positions that I think a lot of currently elected Democrats have a zero percent chance of being able to be elected nationwide. J.B. pritzker, Illinois governor, no chance. Gretchen Whitmer, she's kind of got a Cruella deville look about her. I think it's unlikely. I think she would expose herself on the national stage. I also don't think that Democrats are going to nominate a woman because of what's happened to Hillary and Kamala. And I think they recognize that that is probably not a good direction to go. But I think the bigger issue they have is they're wrong on all the issues. So they need someone who is either not a politician, they need their own version of Trump, somebody who comes out of the woodwork. Look out for George Clooney. I think he's a moron. Some of you may have seen us going back and forth. But Mark Cuban, I'm going to talk about this a little bit. Evidently Kamala Harris strongly considered him to be her vice presidential running mate. But I do think that there's going to be a lot of rich guys that make the decision, hey, on the Democrat side, I could be the Democrat version of Trump. I could be a disruptor. I could sort of scatter the ridiculousness and absurdity shatter once and for all the woke universe. I think you're going to see a lot of people making that move. And I was thinking about it, as you are seeing right now, Democrats scurry from positions that would have been party orthodoxy just a couple of years ago. I think they've recognized that the trans thing has gone too far. I think most people, I'm talking about middle of the road voters will say, okay, you know, if you're a grown man or a grown woman and you want to dress up and pretend that you're a different gender because it makes you happier, okay, if you're a grown man or grown woman and you want to have surgery to try in some way alter your appearance so you appear to not be the gender, I think that's increasingly getting harder to defend, I think just based on the health related risk. But I think most people are saying, okay, but you come for children. That's a, that's a line that we are not going to allow to be touched. And I also think the men and women sports crystallizes that at some point the logical limits of inclusion are reached. And when you go too far, you begin to exclude people in the name of inclusion. That is when you're saying, hey, this man deserves to be able to compete in women's sports, you're knocking women out of being able to compete in women's sports. So you want to be inclusive. I think I'm talking about middle of the road voters that are open but not to the point of exclusion. And I think that's where we are. And I thought that was interesting. Front page New York Times. Many of the top contenders for the Democrat nomination are not criticizing that Supreme Court decision. We'll talk more about that. We'll have some fun as we roll through the Friday edition of the program. In the meantime, summer officially arriving today. This is the longest day of the year. 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We got a lot of people weighing in on a variety of different subjects. Latest on Iran, Israel, we will dive into. Buck will be back with me on Monday, traveling back from France where he has been on the French Riviera. We will have a lot of your weigh ins on a variety of different topics. 800-282-2882. We're having fun. 50th anniversary of Jaws. My argument is it's the most influential movie ever made. Also, by the way, it launched the summer blockbuster era. For those of you around my age, it's very commonplace. You would get out of school and there would be a roster of incredibly big blockbuster movies that were all ready to roll. And that is now super commonplace. But back in the day, the idea was, oh, summer is kind of a lull in the box office. People are traveling. It's not the time when movies are going to take off. And that changed with Jaws and the summer blockbuster phenomenon. So 50th anniversary, it is, by the way, airing for free on something called over the air television that is free for everybody on NBC at, at 8:00 Eastern. So if you've never, if you're one of the only people out there who's never seen Jaws tonight and you are capable of figuring out how to put on NBC, it will be free tonight for everybody to watch on the 50th anniversary. So what's a break? Well, to start the show, I was running through the fact that Democrats who hope to be the nominee in 2028 are mostly ignoring the Wednesday Supreme Court case on the transgender kid issue, which was decided 6 to 3 in favor of the state of Tennessee being able to prohibit these treatments, they're pretending that that ruling did not happen. Let me also point out, along with many other issues out there, if Trump hadn't won the 2016 election, this probably would have been a 5 to 4 decision. Tennessee is not able to stop kids from having trans surgery. I know sometimes that gets lost in the, in the overall larger geopolitical picture. But the most consequential thing in terms of being able to look at the Supreme Court for generations to come was Trump's 2016 election win. Because without that, a lot of these six to three common sense decisions may well have been five to four. Crazy left wing decisions. And a state like Tennessee might not have been able to say, hey, we're not going to let 15 year olds chop off their boobs or their penises. That is child abuse. And we think it's not a actual medical treatment. So I know sometimes that gets lost in the shuffle. But Trump 1.0, if he doesn't win and Hillary is in office, a lot of these rulings that have come down are very, very different. And I think it's worth keeping in mind as we look ahead. Supreme Court justices are on the court for life, but some of these guys and gals are getting up there into their 70s, into their high 70s. And you only have to look at Ruth Bader Ginsburg to point to that and say, hey, you gotta be careful about staying on for too long because you may not make it to where you're in a position where somebody who has a judicial philosophy like yours is going to be replacing you. And so in the case of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, you end up with Amy Coney Barrett, who is in the majority on this 6, 3 decision. I would like to think Ruth Bader Ginsburg would have been smart enough because she is an old school liberal to have looked at a story like this and said, this is crazy. She's a mom now. This is outrageous to allow 14 and 15 year olds to do this. But the Democrat orthodoxy and the far left wing woke ideology is very strong in many of these individuals. And I'm not sure necessarily that that would have occurred. Um, okay, I want to play for you. Barack Obama has decided to go back out on the interview circuit. Um, and I believe this was a Connecticut event where he was sitting and he was talking and he's talking about misinformation and disinformation. And I want to just play this cut for you. And then I want to lay out a thesis that I think is underlying why Obama is suddenly becoming more outspoken A bit. Let's listen. Our biggest challenge right now is we need democracy and social cohesion and trust more than ever. And it's probably as weak as it's been since I've been alive. And that's a bad combination. Okay? I don't actually buy that that's true. Because Barack Obama. What year was Barack Obama born? Guys, will you look that up? I think Barack Obama was alive and 1968, which I would argue for most people out there is the craziest year of most of our lives. I would actually put 2020 in second place in many ways in terms of eras. The, the COVID 2020, BLM protest, George Floyd, insanity. All of that is right up there with 1968. They echo with each other. But I think Barack Obama would have been alive in 1968. I believe that I'm accurate on that because I think that Barack Obama is about 15 years older than me and is the oldest born in 1961. So, yeah, he may not remember it well, but he was certainly alive for that. What's behind Obama? Let me, it's a funny line. Let me actually dive in here for a minute and tell you where I think all this is coming from. So I think that Obama believed that his 2008 win and his 2012 win was going to make him one of the most transformative figures in American history from a presidential perspective. And I think he was quite confident in that and I think he was quite proud of it. That he is the first non white president. Half black, half white, the white half evidently doesn't count. But first non white president. And I think he was of the opinion that his election in the 21st century was going to turn into a transformative moment and that in the generations to come he would echo even more, that he would become even more of an iconic figure. I don't think it's happened. And I think he is looking now at Donald Trump because we just had the 10 year anniversary of Trump coming down the escalator and announcing that he was going to run for president in 2016, the election cycle. And now Trump has been elected twice and he's going to be in office as long as he stays healthy until January of 2029. And Trump 2.0, I think has the potential to be one of the most impactful and consequential terms in office that we have ever seen. And if you just use the first 150ish days of Trump 2.0 as a proxy. I actually asked Buck this when we walked out of the Oval Office last week. What is Trump even going to do by year three? He's moving so fast. And obviously one of the challenges of being president is there are many different issues that arise that you're not really in control of. COVID is a great example in 2020, because I think Trump was on pace to have the greatest economy in the history of the world. And if Covid doesn't suddenly land in March of 2020, even if it landed in March of 2021 instead of March of 2020, if it doesn't land right in the middle of an American presidential election cycle, I think Trump would have rode that economy in 2020, no matter what sort of shenanigans Democrats tried, I think he would have ridden that into an incredibly successful 2020 election campaign, and I think he would have crushed Joe Biden. I don't think it would have even been remotely close because, remember, it would have been. They would have not been able to hide Biden. They wouldn't have been able to send him to the basement. Biden's frailties would have been in stark contrast with Trump's virility. And I don't even think the election would have been close. I think Democrats got thrown a life vest, and it saved what would have otherwise been a metaphorically drowning Biden 2020 campaign. And I think a lot of them, in retrospect now see that. I think it's why they played up the fear of COVID all those other things, because I think they recognize that they would have lost and it would not have been particularly close in 2020. But if Trump had won in 2020, I actually think his impact would be far less consequential than it has been in this term, starting in 2025. And I think Obama's having that realization. I think Obama is suddenly looking around and saying, okay, if you just think about presidents in the last two generations, Ronald Reagan had a transformative presidency. I know the Berlin Wall came down in George H.W. bush's tenure. A lot of people forget about that in 1989. But Reagan had a transformative presidency. In my life, I would put Reagan as the most transformative president. Bill Clinton, I think, had a highly successful presidency. And I know people out there are like, yeah, well, leave aside, leave aside the intern. As I've said for some time, I would rather a president screw an intern than the whole country. Okay, Biden screwed the whole country. He may not have screwed an intern, but he screwed the whole country instead. If you're around my age, most of us who grew up, and I'm 46, most of us who grew up in the 80s and 90s feel like America was pretty awesome in the 80s and 90s. That entire generation of kids that grew up in the 80s and 90s, I'm not saying we're perfect, but it was a sort of a pre Internet world where you could just get let out on your own. Like, I laugh about this now, but I rode the school bus home from my public school. My parents both worked. They just gave me a mace canister on the keychain. I was 10. And they were like, hey, if anybody tries to kidnap you, just Spray them with Mace. If I suggested that about my 10 year old right now, my wife would strangle me. What we let kids do in the 70s, 80s and 90s, and don't even get me started. I'm sure in the 50s and 60s, I mean, my mom says when she was growing up in Chattanooga, Tennessee, they had ponies. And her mom would just be like, hey, you and your brother, get on your ponies and just be back before dark. You got on a horse and just rode off into the distance in Chattanooga, Tennessee, in the 1950s. And my grandma was just like, yeah, just make sure you're back before dark. Do you know how far you could go on a horse? And they were just like, hey, you'll be fine. You're eight. Get on the horse. Just ride around for a while. We'll see you later. Take a pack lunch. So I can see why my mom thought, well, he's just riding the school bus. It's super safe. But, you know, protectionism of kids has grown immensely. But I think most people look back at the 80s and 90s and they say, okay, the Reagan era, the Clinton era, most people were pretty happy in the country. And then I think, and this is where, you know, I'm going to have to dive into this, because some of you may disagree, but I think George W. Bush was an unmitigated disaster. Came in with a balanced budget, 9, 11 happens, we end up in war with Iraq. Dick Cheney's a disaster. That's why I think the idea that Liz Cheney endorsed Kamala. A lot of you are like, good. Dick Cheney's the worst vice president in the history of the United States. I'm gonna have to expound on this thesis, but I think what Obama is slowly starting to recognize is that what he thought was going to be a transformative presidency, that was the story of the 21st century. In terms of excellent leadership. He has been totally overtaken by Trump. Trump is far more consequential and far more successful than Obama ever would have been. And it's a direct result of Obama's failed policies that Trump was enabled. And even beyond that, I think there's an argument that the only reason Trump even got into office was because Obama taunted him and Trump said, screw this. I'm not staying on the sidelines anymore. So Obama might have chosen the method of his own destruction, just like in Ghostbusters. And it's Trump, and I think Obama's starting to recognize it. We'll come back, we'll talk about this more. But maybe you need some energy in your life. Some vim, vigor, vitality. Longest day of the year coming up right now. Tomorrow is the longest day of the year. Summer solstice. I think I got that right. It is going to be daylight out longer than any other day of the year. You're going to be chasing the kids and grandkids around the lake, the pool, all over the place during this summer. Do you have the energy to do it? If you don't, you ought to check out Chalk. 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Looking forward to to be back together again on Monday. A lot of different stories out there. Let me update you on the latest reports that talks in Europe with Iran have failed. Iran is really kind of playing this in an interesting way. At any point, all of their leadership could be wiped out only by the grace of God. And basically Israeli fighter plans. Are they still alive at all. Yet they appear to be refusing to negotiate. I don't know what the historical analogy for this would be. Uh, but, but Iran failing to reach any sort of agreement in Europe. And here's the bigger picture issue that I've been talking about quite some time. You can never trust this Iranian leadership. They want nuclear weapons. It makes imminent logical sense for them to have nuclear weapons because it would preserve their political power forever, potentially much like has happened with North Korea. So anything they tell you is likely to be a lie and you cannot negotiate with them in good faith at all. So that is the latest on Iran and Israel. As I mentioned yesterday, Trump said he will decide in the next Two weeks, whether or not to go in with the big bunker buster bomb, among other things. And I do think probably the worst job in the world to have right now is working in that 4do nuclear mountain site. Your job may not be great. You might be listening to me right now, hunched over in your cubicle, pretending to be working on your TPS reports, but odds are you're not also thinking, hey, at any moment, a bomb might wipe out my entire business. I get it. It's Friday afternoon in many parts of the country. You're probably ready for the weekend to be here. You may hate your job, but I'm here to tell you, the guys working in the Iranian nuclear mountain factory, they got a job than you. They're just showing up at any moment, they might get blown up. That seems like not an ideal job to have. Maybe the worst in the world right now. Uh, the ninth Circuit, this was. I haven't spent much time on this because there's so many district court judges, 600 some odd of them, and they're about half of them hate Trump and they're constantly coming out with anti Trump rulings. The latest that happened was a district federal district court judge in California said Trump couldn't call out the National Guard. Evidently that judge has no idea what actually the supremacy clause means, which is the National Guard is controlled by the national leader, aka Trump. And now the 9th Circuit, including, I believe it's an Obama appointee as well, has ruled three oh. That Trump controls the National Guard and is able to deploy them in Los Angeles. This is not a very complicated legal issue. Some legal issues are very complicated. Evidently Gavin Newsom is going to continue to appeal that. There is also. So Trump is going to win that one. I will tell you. Anyone with a functional brain who has basic knowledge of the law will tell you so. Gavin Newsom, exulting because one random district court judge said that he controlled the California National Guard, not Trump, was laughably absurd. And I think it's been exposed to be such. Uh, a judge has also ordered again, these district court judges have emerged as the, as the peak of the Trump 2.0 opposition, the peak of the spear, as it were. Uh, and a federal judge in New Jersey has ordered that Mahmoud Khalil, three months after the former Columbia student was detained, should be released. Um, so anyway, that will be appealed. Federal district court judges, about half of them hate Trump and they will try to enter in place nationwide injunctions or rulings that will apply nationwide that are, that are of a substantial nature. So that is where we are with the current breaking news stories of the day. Uh, now, I wanted to hit you with a couple of other things that are out there. We've been talking about Obama being usurped by Trump as by far the most consequential figure that is out there. Uh, I also told you it is the 50th anniversary of the release of the movie Jaws. It initially came out in 1975. We've been having some fun with this. Many of you guys want to react to the impact of Jaws in your life. I'm arguing it's the most influential movie of all time, not because it is the best movie of all time, but just because it impacts people's thoughts and decisions in life more than any movie that has been released, I think, of all time. So we'll have some fun with that here in the third hour as it is the 50th anniversary. You guys can tee off on me or you can agree a lot of different people, but I did want to play this cut for you because I think it's emblematic of the failure of Democrats to really understand the world in which we are living right now. Maxwell Frost, who is a congressman from Florida, right. The Orlando area, I believe, team, look that up and make sure that I'm right. Says, hey, he's got a big fear. The United States is at risk of turning into Florida. This is cut 33.
Maxwell Frost
Listen, you know, this fight against far right neo fascism, for me at least, was mainly taking stage in my home in Florida, fighting against Ron DeSantis and the extremism there. And something I always told people is that Project 2025 is actually Florida 2022. Florida 2020. And the stuff that's going on around the country right now, we've actually been dealing with in the south for a long time, especially my state of Florida. So the difference is it's like the struggle in my state has kind of been just spread throughout the nation. And honestly, that day after Election Day had a hard time getting up.
Karen Kilgariff
Okay, So I think this is. This is really very interesting, honestly, because ultimately, the debate that I believe we're going to have is going to move beyond Trump. Now, it doesn't mean that again, by the midterms, 2027, the 2028 election cycle is going to be underway. And I don't think this is a bad way of distilling what that argument is going to be. And I think the problem Democrats have is they're on the wrong side of a really bad argument. If you had to say hey, which two states right now are the avatar of Republican and Democrat belief systems writ large? Which individual state represents red state America? Which individual state represents blue state America? I think that Florida under Governor Ron DeSantis would be the avatar for red state America. Now, you could argue Texas. You could argue Tennessee. I would argue that those three are probably the trio, the triangle of, hey, this is what red state America represents. And I would actually argue that Florida probably is the best. Now, why would I say that? No state income tax in Florida. No state income tax in Tennessee. No state income tax in Texas. So incredibly low tax states, very dynamic economies, rapidly growing populations, all Republican governors with some Democrat cities in there, but overwhelmingly having become more red since 2020. Now, a lot of you live in different states. You might argue with me, I think I'm right in saying that if I had to pick a trifecta of states that represents what red state governance can be, Florida, Tennessee, and Texas would be the trio. And Florida would be the avatar. If you had to pick one state of, hey, this is what big red state policies can do writ large. Okay, what about the blue states? I think California would probably have to be the avatar for what blue state policies lead to. And Gavin Newsom would be the mirror image, right? The opposite side of what's going on in red state Florida with Ron DeSantis. And you could say, hey, if you had to pick three states, I mean, look, there are many blue states that I think have been driven insane. You could add Oregon and Washington, but then that's just a Pacific coast universe. So I think you would probably want to say California, Illinois, and New York would be the blue state avatars, three big states that Democrats control basically top to bottom. The problem that Democrats have is they think Americans still want to look like what is going on in California. And I think overwhelmingly Americans want to look like what's going on in Tennessee, Texas, and Florida. I think the representative argument here is not a good one. And Maxwell Frost is actually making it directly there that Congressman, hey, look out, America might end up like Florida, but I think a lot of Americans are like, yeah, that sounds pretty good. And Gavin Newsom is still out there arguing, hey, America needs to look like California. I think the problem for Gavin Newsom is most Americans don't agree with. Now, blue state America may, but the seven swing states, the people that are out there in the middle, open to being persuaded, they're making that argument directly. The problem is they're making the argument in the wrong direction. Look out, America's gonna look Like Florida. I'm like, hey, sign me up. I think most of you are too. Hey, if we're not careful, America's gonna look more like Texas. That sounds pretty awesome to me. Hey, hey, listen, Democrats, if we're not careful, the whole nation's gonna look like Tennessee. I'm like, I live here. That sounds amazing. And I don't think there's anybody in the persuadable universe that's like, hey, we're gonna make America more like California. I think most Americans are like, nah, we're not signing up for that. Hey, we're gonna make America more like Chicago. Yeah, I'd rather stay alive. Hey, we're gonna make America more like New York City. Hey, I'd rather not have a moron governor. And I'd actually prefer not for you to take half of every dollar that I make. No, I'm good here. Buck has actually made that decision with his own life. Born and raised, New York City, guys like, I can't do this anymore. I'm gonna move to Florida. Make America Florida. Pretty good tagline. Make America Tennessee. I like it. Make America Texas. I like it. Make America California. I'm off the boat. I think that's the problem Democrats have. They're making an argument they think sells. And in actuality, their argument was that that dog ain't hunting. America's out on that argument. And I think this is going to ultimately be. In the wake of 2020, with so many people moving, we know population numbers. If California, Illinois and New York were doing so fabulously well, everybody would be moving there. This is also, by the way, why I think abortion politics doesn't work anymore. If people were really troubled about abortion policy, they wouldn't be flooding all the red states. Like, if you are a 25 year old, 25 year old girl, they're like, oh, I can't believe they're gonna put me in handcuffs and like, arrest me if I get pregnant. But, oh, I'm gonna move to Nashville. I wanna go out on Broadway. Oh, my God. Florida's gonna put me in handcuffs if I get pregnant. But south beach is awesome. I'm moving there. Like, young girls are moving overwhelmingly to run red states. Abortion politics is over. I'm arguing it in the new book. Just look at what people do, not what they say. It's good life lesson across the board. Look, I want to tell you, we love what life's like for me here in Tennessee, for Buck in Florida, for so many of you in Texas, red state America is making the right decisions. 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Art
Hey, Clay and Buck. This is Lewis from Houston, Texas. And I just want to say that Jaws scared me so bad when I was a kid that I couldn't go into the water ankle deep in Galveston Bay for years until I realized that it wasn't really a threat. Then I seen Psycho. And it also scared me to death to even where I had to take baths when I went to my grandma's house. And also Freddy, from even being able to sleep in a dark room. Y' all do great. Love you guys. Keep it up.
Karen Kilgariff
I love all these movies. The Nightmare on Elm street movies. Everybody has got a movie that they saw when they shouldn't have seen it. You were nine and you had a 13 year old older brother. You were seven and your 12 year old sister put on a movie. Nightmare on Elm Street. I don't think they make the same kind of scary movies like they did the Nightmare on Elm Street. I know they make a ton of them and they make a of money, but the concept of you're going to get killed when you go to sleep for Nightmare on Elm street, look, Michael Myers, Jason, they're scary. But the idea of, hey, when you go to sleep, you're going to get killed and it's going to be in real life is so diabolical. I'm surprised they haven't brought back those Nightmare on Elm street movies. They were terrifying to me because again, when are you most scared as a kid in bed? And you're like, well, if I just fall asleep, I'll. But no, Freddy's gonna kill you if you fall asleep. You know, I saw a story recently, I was reading it, I was like, I, I don't know how this kid's ever gonna sleep for the rest of his life. Did you guys see this story? Kid said, there's somebody underneath my bed. I mean, I get in chills even talking about this kid said there's somebody underneath my bed. Babysitter was like, oh, okay, you're gonna be fine. I'll look underneath and I'll be damned if there wasn't a crazy person underneath that kid's bed. Well, one of you look up where this happened. I don't know how that kid's ever gonna sleep for the rest of his life. Can you imagine? Hey, there's somebody under my bed. You're the babysitter. You're like, oh, it's gonna be fine. And you look underneath and somebody's I think I would die. I'm a grown man, I got three kids. I think if one of my kids had been like, daddy, there's somebody underneath my bed. And I've been like, no, you're going to be fine. And then you're like, you're tired, you're trying to get them to sleep. Like, you roll over and you look underneath and there's Somebody underneath the bed. I think I would have had a heart. I don't think I could have saved my kids. I think I would have just had a heart attack right there. I'd have been so scared. Daddy, there's somebody underneath my bed. There's. I mean, there's somebody actually there. That doesn't even seem like it should be fair. That doesn't even seem like it should be allowed. You should never be able to get underneath a kid's bed and actually be there. Even if you're a bad. Even if you're a killer. Like, at least be a man and come at me without being underneath the bed first. Unfair. Lynn and Harrisburg, what you got for me? So, apparently the most influential film is not influential enough. I'm 29. I've never seen Jaws. I would say Raiders of the Lost Ark or A New Hope. Star wars is a lot more influential. Both of which I've watched. Love you guys. Otherwise, see ya. I don't know how Lynn has managed to be 29 years old and never have seen Jaws. It's going to be on NBC tonight. They should have paid me to promote that. It's free. NBC is a show that you can watch with an antenna. It is not streaming. It is not. I feel like I have to explain this now because I was talking to that guy's daughter and she was like, now, how does the radio work? So when you say radio, what I mean the thing that's in your car on the dash, Like, I talk out of that. When you push the button and it comes on, that's how a lot of people hear me. But from my phone, how would I hear you on my phone? That was my conversation a couple days ago. And I hope she's managed to figure out how the radio works. But look, I like Star Wars. I love Raiders of the Lost Ark. The best Raiders of the Lost Ark movie is the Last Crusade with Sean Connery and Indiana Jones. Phenomenal film. But I don't think it's anywhere near as influential. Like, I don't. I went to Israel. I wasn't expecting to find the Ark of the Covenant, right? Like, I wasn't like, well, this isn't really old church. Let me go in there. Maybe the Ark of the Covenant's going to be there. But if I had gone into the ocean in Israel, I would have thought Jaws might kill me. It's very different, right? If I went to tour the pyramids, I wouldn't think to myself, well, maybe this is the. Where the ark is stored. But I would think if I got to an Egyptian beach, I would be worried about the crocodiles in the Nile, but I would also be worried about sharks there. So I think, I think if Lynn from Harrisburg watched, he would actually agree with me and realize that he was wrong. And millions of people just heard his wrongness. Art from Cleveland, what you got for me? This is art from Cleveland. I think the most influential movie may be China Syndrome. It scared the world away from nuclear power. I don't think that's wrong. Didn't Three Mile island have some sort of nuclear scare back in the day? We should be using nuclear power way more than we are. It's actually way safer. And we haven't because people just bought into Cap to catastrophe. This is my thing with self driving cars and I think Elon Musk gets this. I took the Waymo out in San Francisco. I told you guys I felt like I was in the future. The problem with self driving cars is whenever a self driving car makes an error, everybody is going to talk about it. It is going to be everywhere. That video of the self driving car doing something wrong, your wife hitting 48 vehicles trying to go to the grocery store, not gonna go viral. My wife, big suv. If you see her on the street, I would suggest just pull over like there's a funeral coming by. I'm not sure she's going to stay on her side of the road. She's not very good. Car's too big for a lot of women. Big cars, can't handle them. Rob in Palm beach, what you got? I'm from South Florida. My dad was a marine taxidermist for a company called Pfluger, which is out of business, but he was responsible for making the original Jaws head. It was pretty cool to see as a kid. Very terrifying. I mean this is maybe the greatest talk back ever. Rob's just like, yeah, you know the movie Jaws? Super powerful, super impactful. My dad made the head, just picks up his phone, drops in a. That's amazing. See if we can get Rob from Palm beach on. I think that would be a fun story. Dave in Cincinnati, what you got for us? Hey, Clay, this is Dave in Cincinnati. I used to be a history teacher and I would show Quint's soliloquy on the USS Indianapolis. And knowing most of the kids had never seen Jaws, I'd started at the scene where the shark shows up for the first time. And there is nothing better than hearing 30 desks just all squeak flying backwards at the sign of the shark. And I knew they were Hooked for my lesson of the day. That's really great. All right, let me hit one more here and then we'll go to break and then we will play a couple of cuts from Jaws and take a couple more of your calls. But this is a Friday edition 50 year anniversary. You guys are fantastic. I love these talk back functions super fast. You can give me 30 seconds. Give me your best 30 seconds. Got a joke there about marriage. MJ from Carlsbad, what you got for me? I'm 67 years old, been a lifelong surfer. I never saw Jaws. Never. For that reason, I wanted to remain in the water my whole life. And I've been chased out of the water by a shark on Kauai. So, yeah, I know a little bit about sharks. So, yeah, never saw it, never will. I don't blame him for never seeing. I haven't shown it to my kids. They may have seen Jaws, but because we go to the beach quite regularly and they are afraid of sharks because it is kind of embedded in the culture. But I was like, I talked about this with my wife. So we can never show them Jaws, especially not when they're young. They will never get in the water. I was afraid to swim in a swimming pool at night after I saw Jaws. A swimming pool at night, couldn't see the bottom. I was like, it's not for me. And some of y' all are like, yeah, I didn't get in the lake. You got kids right now. They're gonna see Jaws tonight on NBC. You're gonna be like, you're done for. Don't even try to get them in the water. That is not happening. After they see that movie, I think it's still going to be super impactful. Even with the crazy fake Jaws head that our boy just called in and said that his dad made. That's pretty amazing. All right, we're going to close up the week next when, look, stock market is moving all the time. I just said, I've got some money coming in. And I said, you know what? I don't know that I want to buy S&P 500 index funds right now as it's near an all time high. I want to diversify a little bit more. Literally had that call with one of my financial advisors this morning because there's constant movement. Everything else. Maybe you want to diversify and check out gold. Gold has for generations been a place for hundreds of years. People have gone to rely on when they didn't feel like the currencies were that reliable, when they felt like the stock markets may be wobbly all throughout history, even back when Indiana Jones and his dad Sean Connery were trying to discover the Last Crusade, they have been hooked up. Get hooked up right now with gold from Birch Gold Group. Historically, gold's been a haven in times of high uncertainty, which is right now. You can get a free info kit on tax shelter Gold IRAs by texting my name Clay to 9898 98. Arm yourself with info to diversify your retirement savings. That's Clay 989-898. Get your free info kit today from Birch Gold. Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast. 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We had snacks, laughs and we even recorded a special episode featuring some unforgettable car themed stories.
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Summary of "Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jun 20 2025"
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show aired its June 20, 2025, episode with hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delving into a range of pressing topics, from Supreme Court decisions impacting transgender youth to the enduring influence of classic films like Jaws. This detailed summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn during the episode.
Clay Travis initiated the episode by addressing a significant Supreme Court decision from the previous Wednesday. The Court ruled 6-3 in favor of the state of Tennessee, allowing the prohibition of gender-altering surgeries for minors. Travis criticized the Democratic Party's tepid response to the ruling, highlighting a perceived retreat and discomfort within the party regarding transgender issues.
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Travis further discussed the implications of former President Obama's 2016 election on the current judicial landscape, suggesting that Obama's victory ensured a conservative tilt in the Supreme Court. He argued that without Obama's win, the Court might have sided differently on such critical issues.
Buck Sexton and Clay Travis analyzed the standings of potential Democratic candidates for the 2028 presidential nomination. Referencing a poll from Coefficient, they scrutinized figures like Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), and other prominent Democrats, asserting that these candidates have "zero percent chance" of securing the presidency. The hosts emphasized that the Democratic base has largely rejected the party’s stance on transgender issues, affecting their broader electoral prospects.
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Travis introduced his upcoming book, "Balls", which explores how Trump garnered support from men and sports fans, positing that this demographic played a pivotal role in saving the nation in 2024. He attributed significant momentum to political ads like “Kamala is for They/Them, President Trump is for You,” citing a 2.7-point favorable shift towards Trump among specific voter groups.
Celebrating the 50th anniversary of the film Jaws (released in 1975), Clay Travis presented an argument that Jaws is the most influential movie ever made—not necessarily the best, but profound in shaping societal behaviors and fears. He shared personal anecdotes about how the movie instilled a lasting fear of sharks, even affecting his own childhood experiences with swimming.
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Listeners’ feedback highlighted diverse reactions, with some sharing how Jaws impacted their lives, such as inducing a fear of water bodies or influencing teaching methods in classrooms. For instance, Dave from Cincinnati mentioned using Jaws to captivate his history students during lessons on the USS Indianapolis.
Clay Travis updated listeners on the ongoing tensions between Iran and Israel, noting the lack of progress in negotiations held in Europe. He expressed skepticism about Iran’s willingness to negotiate in good faith, emphasizing their pursuit of nuclear weapons as a means to preserve political power, akin to North Korea.
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Travis criticized various federal judges for anti-Trump rulings, particularly highlighting a California district court's decision that erroneously stated Trump could not call out the National Guard. He asserted that such judicial errors would be overturned on appeal, cementing Trump’s authority over national defense measures.
The discussion shifted to the broader critique of Democratic policies, with both hosts asserting that the party's embrace of "woke" ideology has alienated moderate and conservative voters. They contended that policies around transgender youth and energy tax credits have contributed to the Democratic Party’s waning appeal.
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Buck Sexton complemented Travis's analysis by emphasizing the importance of energy tax credits in creating jobs and fostering economic growth in America. The hosts argued that Democratic attempts to portray red states like Florida, Texas, and Tennessee as negative examples ("Make America Florida" or "Make America Texas") are ineffective, as many Americans prefer the governance styles of these states over blue states like California.
Clay Travis reflected on the presidencies of Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama, positioning Trump as the most consequential president of recent times. He suggested that Obama’s policies inadvertently paved the way for Trump’s rise, and that Trump’s current term could surpass Obama’s influence.
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Travis criticized Obama's inability to achieve the transformative impact he anticipated, contrasting it with Trump’s dynamic leadership. He also touched upon the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, arguing that Trump’s handling could have significantly altered the 2020 election landscape had the pandemic not disrupted it.
The episode concluded with listeners sharing personal stories related to the discussed topics. From fears instilled by horror films like Jaws and Nightmare on Elm Street to reflections on local political climates, the feedback segment reinforced the hosts' points on cultural and political influences.
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In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton provided a robust analysis of the current political climate, critiquing Democratic strategies and highlighting the enduring impact of cultural phenomena like Jaws. Their discussions intertwined political commentary with personal anecdotes and listener interactions, offering a comprehensive review of the issues shaping America in 2025.
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This comprehensive summary aims to provide a clear and engaging overview of the episode for those who have not listened, capturing the essence of Clay and Buck’s discussions and the critical viewpoints they presented.