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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Podcast.
Buck Sexton
We talked about the mayor's race in New York, the Democrat primary Mamdani the communist lunatic, won. We're going to dive into Iran stuff here momentarily and also look at Trump at NATO, which very much gets into the Russia discussion. He talked about his meeting with Zelensky. Couldn't have been nicer. Couldn't have been nicer, he said. So I guess that's going in a good direction, but at least the relationship between those two guys. So I think we had mentioned is there a possibility of a non mom Downey mayoralty in New York? And the only way I think it could happen, Clay, is if there's a consolidation around a candidate who is not the Democrat primary winner or not the winner of that primary. So that would mean either Curtis Sliwa, the Republican. I think we've had Curtis on the show before. He's, he would do great things for New York. I mean he'd be way better than he's Running uphill on this thing on ice skates is just, it's a, you know, eight to one Democrat to Republican situation in New York. So. And if the people who are willing to vote for Mamdani, they're going to vote for him again, obviously over anybody else. So that's not going to change. And then you have the possibility, Clay, of Eric Adams getting a second life as a mayor of New York on another term here be a second term mayor. If there's a movement for the Cuomo voters, the Sliwa Republican voters, to all just say, you know what, Adams is not good, but he's not horrible, we'll keep this guy. That would be, under the circumstances, a pretty good insane outcome for the city of New York.
Clay Travis
Yeah, look, I think the only way that Mamdani can be challenged is if everybody else basically says all of our voters have to go together, even if they're coming from different points on the political spectrum to keep him from winning. I'm not sure it would work if everybody got behind Derek Adams, but I think that's what it would require because otherwise you have multiple different independents, you have different subsets where everybody is coming from different perspectives and those little subsets get their percentage support. And mom, Donnie wins. And let me just. I was reading this to buck off air. I do think the crazy town nature of what he has said sometimes gets overlooked. Here he is attacking Cuomo when Cuomo refuses to tax the rich. He's refusing to let workers enjoy the wealth they created. When he says low taxes foster a business friendly environment, he means an environment where it's easy for bosses to steal from workers. Taxation isn't Theft capitalism is. I mean, for those of you out there that are listening to us in South Florida, you have got a situation suddenly where you have a New York City mayor who would agree with a lot of the policies put in place by Venezuela or Cuba. Cuba has grocery stores. Those grocery stores do not work very well, Buck. They are, they are not staples of the Cuban diet.
Georgia Hardstark
No.
Clay Travis
Yes. And so anybody who has actually lived through socialism to see America's biggest city. By the way, it's not just New York. Chicago's got a mayor with 6% approval. Brandon Johnson, La has got a mayor who can't put out fires and can't stop riots. And Karen Bass, our three largest cities have never had in my lifetime and probably any, almost any lifetime, anybody out there as ineffective leadership for all of their citizens as now. And they're all crazy left wing Democrats.
Buck Sexton
And yet they want more. That's the part of it that I think is a surprise to a lot of people. There was real fatigue in New York after the Dinkins administration with ineptitude, just being bad at the job and the crime in the city and the graffiti everywhere and the vagrants and the assaults and the murders and all the things that were going on, crazy numbers. People said enough is enough. Giuliani came in and he had a real mandate, a mandate to clean things up. And he did. So the problem you see in a lot of these Democrat cities, Democrat run cities, is that things get bad and then they really just run. The playbook of real communism has never been tried. You know, this is the old joke about how people look at any communist country. It always ends in misery, collapse, despair. It's a nightmare. But somehow people, maybe they call themselves socialists, but they rise using the same playbook, the same promises. And the thing is, well, this time we'll get it right, this time we'll get it right is one of the most dangerous beliefs in the world, unfortunately, because you won't. And that's what happens in these places.
Clay Travis
And again, I mean, I feel like the people who need government to be effective the most, that's people who can't move, people who don't have the flexibility to decide, hey, I'm going to move to Florida, I'm going to move to Tennessee, I'm going to move to Texas. They're the ones that are going to suffer the most under this, unfortunately, which is why to your point, they're the ones who were voting against this.
Buck Sexton
I think that again, working off the stereotypes of New York, New Yorkers, different New Yorkers, but I know them very well. Right. I wouldn't do this in Houston. I can't speak to, like, what the different factions are. I can speak to the different factions and the different demographic realities in New York City with. With particular expertise. Okay. And you have a lot of. And you see this. This is from the data. This isn't just. But I'm. I'm interpreting the data as to the realities of New York. You have people who are black and Hispanic, and particularly Hispanic from, you know, sort of from the Caribbean area. We've large, you know, large Caribbean Hispanic population. So Dominicans, for example. They were Cuomo. They were Cuomo. You look in parts of Brooklyn that are overwhelmingly black. Cuomo. Because they want somebody who is gonna know that, like, make the system run as it is. But also because a lot. There's a lot of state dependency. There's a lot of NYCHA housing, which is the city authority that does the projects. I think we're not supposed to call them that anymore. I don't know what we're supposed to call them, but nycha, whatever the acronym is.
Clay Travis
Subsidized Housing.
Buck Sexton
Thank you. Thank you. Subsidized Housing. Thank you, Clay. But there's a lot. And people want that. They want these things to be administered not by a lunatic. But also on the crime issue, if this guy Mamdani gets his way, remember, the police commissioner is picked by the mayor and answers to the mayor. The NYPD is responsible for implementing the mayor's policies. And let me also add in here, Alvin Bragg just got reelected as a Democrat for district attorney, and this guy's a disaster. But the people who vote for this stuff generally live in areas where they don't have high crime. They think it's some. They watch WPIX 11 or something and they see, oh, somebody got stabbed in the South Bronx. Not my problem. Mommy and daddy are paying my rent in Williamsburg or in Red Hook or whatever. Or if they live in a part of Queens that's heavily immigrant because there were large Asian populations that went from Amdani. Those are generally low crime parts of the city, high immigrant parts of the city. And they want more government services, and they want. You know, they want that socialism promise. I. You can see it playing on the data, by the way. Upper east and Upper West. Upper east and Upper west side went for Cuomo.
Clay Travis
Well, it's interesting because your friend, you were talking. We were talking about her yesterday. Tish, who is basically running.
Buck Sexton
Jessica Tisch. Yeah, the daughter of Tisch family. That's their billionaires. They Own like the Giants.
Clay Travis
And, you know, yeah, she's actually done a pretty good job under Eric Adams of helping to get crime a little bit corralled in the city. But to your point, Buck, the people who understand basic economics and are Democrats, old school Democrats, they voted for Andrew Cuomo. The people who are young and to a large extent still having their rent paid by mommy and Daddy have decided that capitalism is a joke and it doesn't really work and it doesn't really impact their life. And, oh, we need to have a socialist extravaganza in New York City. And producer Ali just pointed out that's actually somewhat consistent for them, because when Mommy and Daddy fund your lifestyle in the big city, you are basically living off somebody else's wealth and largess in a way that you would never be able to afford to do on your own. And so they overwhelmingly broke. And look, this is a young white coalition. Yes, there are a lot of foreign voters, foreign citizens that are foreign born.
Buck Sexton
Now living in New York City.
Clay Travis
Yeah, but they weren't really driving Mom. Donnie, remember, it is white women without kids are basically driving every decision made by the Democrat Party. Now, white women without kids, these are the people that the Democrat Party exists to serve, overwhelmingly. That is their base.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. And the government's supposed to be their husband. This is the problem. The government's supposed to step in and do all these things that in the traditional family structure, provide for, protect, guide, you know, all these things. No, no, the government's there to do that in the ideology of the unmarried, white, liberal female. So it's not good. This does not end well for any. But the problem that we have here is they haven't suffered enough. And that's a shame. But it's true in New York. It's true in San Francisco. It's true in Chicago. These are places where people haven't suffered enough. Here are enough people haven't suffered enough that they're willing to finally say, I was wrong.
Clay Travis
Here's the scary thing on this, Buck, are they are the brains so broken that they lack the ability to understand the circumstances that surround them are a result of their choice. And so they continue to look at Trump as sort of the Great Satan. And the brand of the Democrat Party is the antagonist brand to Trump. And so they don't connect the awful choices they're making politically with their life circumstances being worse. That's a little bit scary.
Buck Sexton
I know you're a big Sex in the City fan, Clay, so you might have seen that, that Cynthia Nixon, who played One of the main four characters was. And this is somebody who she. I think actually she had political aspirations at one point herself. Did she run?
Clay Travis
She ran for like mayor or something, I think.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, she ran. I forget she ran whatever it was, but she's an imbecile and a left wing loon. And she said that she wanted Mamdani because she wanted someone who will stand up to Trump. If that is your frame of reference, stand up to Trump, the mayor of New York. You want somebody who's overseeing the cops, firefighters, sanitation, the school system and brings investment into the city. That's what you actually want. You want it to function well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who the president is if you're living in New York City in your day to day. Certainly not the way it matters who the mayor is. And it's just crazy to see. We'll take calls on. They've got New Yorkers lighting us up here. So let's, let's see what they have to say.
Clay Travis
Cynthia Nixon ran for governor 2018. That's for the state of.
Buck Sexton
Remember it.
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Remember it?
Clay Travis
Yeah. Oh, I mean the fact that she was on Sex in the City and aren't they doing a new version of Sex in the City right now? An updated Sex in the City.
Buck Sexton
I'll take your word. I'll take your word for it there.
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Clay Travis
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You know our old friend Joy Reid Buck. They Kicked her off msnbc. I look up last night, and by look up, I mean look down at my phone and see trending that cnn, not content with losing the battle to msnbc, has decided, you know what we should do? We should put Joy Reid on as a part of our panel discussion. And Joy Reid said, hey, you know what? I don't know why it's considered to be such a bad thing if Iran gets nuclear weapons. Maybe it would actually calm everything down. This is what you would have heard last night. Cut 15. If you were watching CNN.
Georgia Hardstark
What do you think we'll see? First?
Clay Travis
World War III or nuclear war? I don't think we'll ever see nuclear.
Georgia Hardstark
War in our lifetime, but I do think we'll see a World War II.
Clay Travis
And the reason you won't see nuclear.
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War in our lifetime is that everyone who would deem to threaten global annihilation has nukes.
Clay Travis
Mutually mutually assured, mutually assured destruction.
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Georgia Hardstark
You know how they say the most.
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That's right.
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Clay Travis
Okay? So it would be better if Iran had nuclear weapons. It would make everything calmer. It's a crazy town take, by the way, it was on with Charlemagne, not cnn. She was also on cnn. And I mean, to me, the easier analysis here, if you are just being somewhat rational, just somewhat rational is, would it be better if North Korea didn't have nuclear weapons? I think the answer is yes. And by the way, it was also a credit to Israel and also helping with American intelligence. They shot down 95% of the ballistic missiles that Iran fired into Israel and still there were casualties. But, Buck, can you imagine if that missile shield had only been half as successful or if Iran were able to deliver far more significant payload damage to Israel than what they did because they were firing haphazardly, they weren't targeting in particular ways small segments of the Israeli military defense or top Israeli commanders. They were just trying to hit anything that they could. And the idea that you would say, well, maybe they should have more weapons is. And more deadly opportunities is just crazy to me.
Buck Sexton
Well, if. If Iran had it in its capability to, as I've said, with conventional means to level Tel Aviv, they would do so.
Georgia Hardstark
Right.
Buck Sexton
And what's interesting and shocking and horrifying all at once is that I think many of the voices right now that are critical of the Israeli strikes or, you know, have been critical of the Israeli strikes would find a way to say that even if Iran was engaged in widespread targeting of civilians in response to the Israeli strikes, that that was Israel's fault. I mean, one thing that I do know from observing events in the Middle east is that there are. There's a contingent of people, certainly in the Middle east, non Israelis, a lot of non Israelis, and then in this country for whom everything is Israel's fault no matter what it does.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
And there's no way around that. And I think that tells you much more about those individuals than it does about what they think will bring peace or what they think is relevant to the laws of war and the conduct of armed conflict. So, yeah, it's a good thing that they're able to shoot down these missiles, because Israel could be going on strafing and bombing runs of Tehran at will right now. And it does not do so because it does not seek to kill Iranians. It seeks to stop a threat from the Iranian regime. These are not fundamentally Clay. These are not nation states. These are not governments that are operating on the same moral plane.
Clay Travis
I will say positive. Maybe they're going to have to stop calling Trump Hitler because he's so popular now in Israel that the Israeli ambassador to the. To the U.N. said President Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. I don't think that anybody Jewish ever suggested. Suggested that Hitler deserved a Nobel Peace Prize, but here is cut 14. He should. I think Trump should get it based on all the work he's done to actually try and create peace. Cut 14. A U.S. congressman today sent a letter to nominate President Trump Nobel Peace Prize. What is your opinion? First, I think that President Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. I think we should thank him for.
Buck Sexton
His leadership, for the brave decision he.
Clay Travis
Took, and to recognize the effort of the United States. There you go. Do you think President Trump will get the Nobel Peace Prize? Buck, do you feel good in any way about what would it take? I guess maybe if you ended the war in Ukraine and Israel and Iran continued to not fight, and also you had a situation where Gaza was finally solved between Hamas and Israel, maybe if you got that triplicate, you could end up in a situation where Trump got the new the peace prize, and maybe you expand Abraham Accords to include Saudi Arabia, which I think could happen down the line. I think that's what it would take.
Buck Sexton
I don't know if there's any situation in which the people who make those decisions would be willing to give Trump one. But, you know, I think the good thing about Trump and everyone who supports him and what he's been doing. He, you know, he, he knows this and getting things right and helping this country and with it, helping the world is the value that he really seeks from this. That's the benefit is doing as well as he's doing in all of these things. It has been a remarkably successful administration so far. And I would just point out that even in the first administration they thought foreign policy was going to be a weakness because foreign policy used to be the preserve of the Brahmins of the DC Intelligentsia. At some level it's like, oh, these are far away places that only some of us understand and some of us go to. And we, well, Trump approaches foreign policy with a common sense what's good for America, who are the bad guys, who are the good guys and what do we do about it approach. And that is far not just more sensible in theory, but in practice as well as we saw. And that's where I think Trump has had a particularly, he's at a particularly successful portfolio in foreign policy, especially when you line it up against the way the Democrats see these things where there's just no clarity, there's a lot of amorphous and self congratulatory nonsense.
Clay Travis
And again, I do believe that unfortunately for Trump, he's trying to clean up the mess that Biden's weakness in Afghanistan created. I don't think it's coincidental that we looked as bad and as haphazard leaving Afghanistan as we did. And shortly thereafter you had Putin invade Ukraine and you had the Hamas attack that took place where they went into Israel. I don't think either of these things would have happened if Trump were in office. And unfortunately he's got to now clean up the messes that were created there. And, and, and so much of what Trump is having to do right now is not even about advancing the ball. It's just limiting the disasters that were in put in place by the entire Biden administration, which we talked about yesterday. But I think increasingly there's going to be a recognition that Biden was the worst president and anybody's living right now live, the Democrats are going to kick him to the curb. They don't want to defend him anymore. And you're starting to see that recognition that basically every choice he made was the wrong choice. That's hard to do. It's hard to be in a place where you have constantly two roads diverging and you take the wrong side every single time on the choice trail. But that's basically what Biden did.
Buck Sexton
No I mean he was known. I think it was the former former CIA director and former Secretary of Defense Gates who said that Biden was famously the guy who was wrong on every major, major four. He was the foreign policy expert who was wrong on every foreign policy decision of the last 40 years. I think that something like that was the quote and it's true. And when the more you look at Joe Biden, as I said, I think one of the more interesting time to come clean moments of the whole Biden book and the dementia cover up and everything has been that he's not a good guy, he's not an honest, ethical person, never has been. He's really a shameless, sleazy politician and that has been his calling card all along. And that he fancied himself because of his grin and his handshake and his ability to believe his own nonsense, some kind of a foreign policy guru and was brought on as Obama's VP for that reason. Is, is wild when you, it's just stunning stuff.
Clay Travis
I just, I don't think we talk enough honestly and I know it's coming out more and more. No one was around Joe Biden more than Barack Obama. And after being around Joe Biden for multiple years, Obama said, yeah, I'm going with the Secretary of State, you can't be president. Biden was wrong on the raid that happened in to take out Osama bin Laden. I think Obama and his team knew that Biden was a joke and I think the Biden being a joke factor was hidden because of COVID And again, history judges over time, more accurately, I think you're already starting to see a recalibration of everything that Biden did wrong. We'll talk about this, we'll take some of your calls. Got a bunch of great talkbacks. But in the meantime, Israeli citizens appreciate the generosity of our nation and of people like you that have made donations to help residents in need in this time of need more than anything else. Finally, Israeli citizens are being able to leave their bomb shelters and get a decent night's sleep after having to constantly scramble in and out of that situation. And the international fellowship of Christians and Jews on the ground preparing large scale distributions of life saving food, first aid and emergency kits for Israel's most vulnerable people. Fellowship also making sure hospitals, emergency rooms, shelters fully stocked with critical life saving medical supplies. That's why the fellowship needs your gift today to make the work possible. Stand with Israel. Make your donation today. 888488. IFCJ is the phone number that's 888-488-IFCJ. You can also go online at ifcj.org that's ifcj.org hey, Buck, one of my kids called me an ankh the other day. Ank? Yep. Slaying, evidently. For not being hip, being an old dude.
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Clay Travis
I think we should choose the motto make NATO great again. I would like to extend my gratitude to President Donald Trump, because without his engagement, I can imagine that would discuss probably the level of 2.5% with no clear outcome and positive outcome. Probably those discussions will lead to nothing. Nothing.
Buck Sexton
So, Clay, Trump's mark on NATO is very clear. I remember in the first term there were a lot of people whose objection was that they said that Trump was going to destroy NATO and he was so horrible for it. And now you got the whole North Atlantic Treaty Organization mobilizing to spend more, to prepare more, to be able to defend more. And Trump has been a huge part of that shift. Really the leader of that shift.
Clay Travis
Yeah, look, there was a decision made that the United States was going to protect the rest of the world. And so the rest of the world didn't have any obligation to have substantial military assets. I mean, this is certainly the case with Canada, which basically has no military because they are freeloading on the fact that they feel as if the United States will protect them no matter what. And that's true. Look at Canada's military spending. Look at the number of people that they have in uniform. They are effectively of the opinion that they have no danger because they happen to border the United States. And there was that belief in many of the NATO countries that, to build on the analogy that was being made there, Trump and the United States was the daddy of Europe and they didn't have to spend money on any of their own defense because the United States had their back. And that's something that frankly, a lot of American leadership has wanted to foster for some period of time to allow that to sort of become ingrained. And Trump said, why would we continue to be the world's policemen? Why would we continue to be effectively your security guards? And you're going to have to spend money? And that seems totally rational. I got a question for you also coming out of this. This news has just broken recently. This is, you know, with your intelligence background, should there be an investigation on the leaking of this high level intelligence sort of opinion that was given to CNN and the New York Times? Is that worthwhile? Is that useful? Should it be something that was not published in those newspapers based on your background?
Buck Sexton
The, the leak investigation is always such a hotly contested and charged issue. And you can tell based on whether people think that the person is a, quote, whistleblower or a leaker. Right? That's one. That's always the Way those terms are used is very much whom or what I like and whom and what I don't like. So I think that's a big piece of it. I think that in this case, you know, the thing about leaks, there's leaks that damage sources and methods that can put lives and national security at risks, and there's leaks that are more political in nature to talk about the damage done to the nuclear facilities, though, this is. This is. And relying on classified sources to do it and telling the media and trying to shape a narrative. You know, you are breaking your oath to protect classified information. Right. So this isn't, you know, there always are judgment calls about this kind of stuff. Like, is this someone sharing their opinion about whether something's a good idea? I mean, that's generally not something that is a national security risk or classified. But if you're sharing an opinion based on information very clearly that is derived from classified sources, I mean, that is against regulations. You shouldn't be doing it. And no one person in the Defense Intelligence Agency should think that he or she should be trying to shape US Foreign policy by using the media as attack dogs against Trump based off of classified sources. Right? So that's a long way of saying, yeah, I think they should try to chase down this leak. The person should, at a minimum, be fired. It's very hard to find leakers, very hard to prove that someone is a leaker. So, you know, we still don't know who gave the Supreme Court the Dobbs. Right. So, yeah, you know, just to give you a sense of it, yeah, I can say we should find a leaker, but it's very hard to do.
Clay Travis
And that is a good point, because there's only roughly 100 people, and that may be too many, who could have ever leaked that information in the Supreme Court? How many people do you think? And that's the, of course, the Dobbs decision coming out before the Dobbs decision was released, which thankfully didn't get Brett Kavanaugh assassinated, but did provoke the motive of. Until the opinion is published. If you kill a member of the Supreme Court, it's scary. Then the opinion doesn't go into effect. And Biden would have had the opportunity, because he controlled the Senate at the time, to replace Brett Kavanaugh and the theoretically preserve Roe v. Wade. That was the logic behind why all this was leaked, I believe, in addition to putting pressure on people to change their opinions. Let me ask you this. How many people do you think would have had the ability to know and see this report in other Words. When you conduct an investigation, the first thing you have to figure is how many people had eyes on it. How many people had the ability to contact the New York Times, CNN with a report like this? Is it 100, is it a thousand? How many people out there do you think would have seen this report to the extent that it is accurate that they have conveyed on that report? Because that tells you how hard it is to track somebody down just based on how many eyeballs are on it.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, well, it's very, it's very tough to know. And remember there's going to be a lot of different cables coming in and out, damage assessments that are, that are on the classified channels. And so, you know, this is where you get into more of a mosaic theory of what, how specific was the information and how much of this was someone getting from one report versus another and without obviously have no access to any of this stuff. So I can't speak to the specificity that was leaked and that that obviously would go toward how easy it would be to catch somebody. If they get very clear details that could only come from a really small like eyes only sort of report, then it's much more likely you're going to be able to find out who is involved in the leak. And the big thing to do is usually you just pull somebody's cell phone records and emails.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
And, and then you see them talking to New York Times reporter. Now people get very, you know, depending, again, depending on who's doing it and the First Amendment starts to get a lot of attention and people talk about the right of the public to know and this stuff can get messy quickly.
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Buck Sexton
But on this one, to me it's egregious. And why take this to the press? To try to undermine the President in this critical moment where we're seeing the Iranians on the defensive and hoping to bring about, I mean, what is Trump trying to do here? Stop the threat of a nuclear armed Iran and move the region forward into a more peaceful place?
Clay Travis
Yeah, that's a very noble goal. Here's what I would wonder. Are you to the point now where certainly we know Pete Hegseth has been very upset about leaks inside of the Pentagon and to his credit, and to the credit of everybody involved in this attack, nobody knew this was close to the vest. Iran seems to have been caught unaware that certainly this news didn't break until Trump went on social media and said, hey, our planes are now out of Iranian airspace. We've successfully attacked all those things. Here is one thing I wonder do you set up fake news to try to catch the leakers? Let them believe that they have some information that, you know is inaccurate because it. And start to give information to try to catch the people that are.
Buck Sexton
This is an old counterintelligence technique, and if you. If you were to flood, if you put in the system stuff that is untrue but juicy and it finds its way in, you know, then, you know, based on who you gave that to, right. You flush it out the other side and see. Look, I think what's more. To me, what's even more important here is just that the administration is able to. I mean, look, Pete Hegsett, the Secretary of Defense, has been very clear on this. Others have been very clear on this, that they're trying to. That they're clear on. This was a massively successful strike, and it has done catastrophic damage to the Iranian nuclear program. And I think just. It's. The most important thing is one, that that is confirmed as true with further analysis, and two, they let the public know that, because we are the final check on these things. Like, we, the American people, should know what was the end result of this, and was it worth the risks that were taken and the involvement here? So I want that transparency from the Trump team in terms of getting this leaker. I think it's unlikely you'll get him. I think they should try because you want to prevent these kinds of leaks. And I just think it goes to the mindset of some people who work inside the intelligence agencies that they are. They're like, operating under some higher power, which is just always get, you know, get Trump, make Trump look bad, whatever that is. And people have gone to prison for this, as we know, people have gone to prison for leaking stuff that really was just meant to make Trump look.
Clay Travis
Bad on the leaking front. The thing that makes the most sense to me, without an intelligence background at all, is when you bomb the side of a mountain, it is hard to know how far. And the entryways to the facility are completely obliterated, and you cannot get in. It is, I would imagine, hard to assess how far into the interior of the mountain the overall damage goes. So until you have boots on the ground, which Israel claims that they have had the ability to do, to try to assess how you get back inside, I would think also that if Iran starts to unpack that nuclear facility, that would be very visible, and we would be able to go in again and. And drop additional bombs as needed. In. In the event that we have assessed that we didn't get the full attack success level that we had hoped we were going to be able to. We'll take some of your calls. By the way, Senator Marsha Blackburn is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. It's worth mentioning that there is the desire to get the big beautiful bill, which has not been much talked about over the past few weeks. That has moved to the, the, the back burner given all the other stories. But Trump's signature legislative goal and achievement is getting closer and closer to fruition. We will talk with Senator Blackburn at the bottom of this hour what she thinks about the time frame as it pertains to, to this process. But I want to tell you all about Rapid Radios. I'm up in Michigan right now at news talk 580 WTCM in Traverse City. The guys who started rapid Radios are Michiganders. They put in place a business. They knew that there was going to be a demand because at any point in time you could have a hurricane, you could have a tornado, you could have power out in your neighborhood. Maybe it's just an awful winter storm and you got a lot of ice on branches, trees coming down and you want to be able to stay in touch with people. Rapid radios. Keep five days worth of chargers and you'll be able to talk to people all over the country. Bucks sister in law during the big hurricane that hit Asheville, people didn't anticipate the damage that would occur in western North Carolina. She was able to continue to use these rapid radios, get in touch with Buck's father in law. They were able to get the help that they needed when almost all other forms of communication were down. Trust me on this, this is a great opportunity. You can get an incredible offer. All you have to do is go to rapidradios.com use code radio. You will get the best possible deal. Give your family the opportunity to be able to protect them for the event of casualty in the event of catastrophe. Also, hey, maybe you got young kids and you want them to be able to run around outside, but you don't want them having cell phones yet. Every little kid likes to use a walkie talkie. You can travel, you can use these. We've used these at college football games when it's sometimes difficult to otherwise be able to use cell phone service. Get hooked up right now. You'll be glad that you did. Rapidradios.com code radio. You'll love them. We have them in the Travis household. That's Rapidradios.com code radio. Grand Canyon University, a private Christian university in Beautiful Phoenix, Arizona believes we're endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. GCU believes in equal opportunity and the American Dream starts with purpose. GCU equips you to serve others in ways that promote human flourishing and create a ripple effect of transformation for generations to come. By honoring your career, calling you impact your family, your friends and your community, you can change the world for good by putting others before yourself to glorify God. Whether your pursuit involves a bachelor's, master's, or doctoral degree, GCU's online, on campus and hybrid learning environments are designed to help you achieve your unique academic, personal and professional goals. With over 340 academic programs as of September 2024, GCU meets you where you are and provides a path to help you fulfill your dreams. The pursuit to serve others is yours. Let it flourish. Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University. Private, christian, affordable visit gcu.edu.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee joins us right now. Senator, always appreciate you making the time for us. Thank you so much.
Producer Ali
You got it. I'm so happy to join you. Thanks.
Buck Sexton
How are you feeling about the influx of New Yorkers that you may be getting? Senator Blackburn, based on the mayor's race? Do you have, do you have room in the great state of Tennessee? If they're, if they're good patriotic Americans.
Producer Ali
Fleeing your way, if they are willing to leave New York and Illinois and California and Massachusetts, Taxachusetts, some of these states and leave behind those Democrat policies and come to a state like Tennessee with no state income tax, then we welcome them.
Clay Travis
This is probably a question that I'm sure you get all the time, but as somebody born and raised in Tennessee, it's one of the questions that I get most frequently, frequently from others who are born and raised in Tennessee, we have data now on the 2024 election. And I know you obviously as an elected official probably have poured over that data. And I know you got a lot of smart people in Tennessee, Florida and Texas. It appears that the people moving are as a whole making the states redder so far. Right. So to allay some of those concerns that might be out there.
Producer Ali
Oh, that is so very true. And I meet people every single day, Clay, and they will say, oh, did you really stop a state income tax in Tennessee? And they're amazed. You know they are accustomed to paying these exorbitant state income tax fees. And then you look at this issue that has come up on the salt tax and you have California and New York trying to move that deduction to $40,000 and say we want it to apply to everybody making under a million dollars a year. And they keep trying to expand it and we keep saying no, this is an issue for your state legislature. If you think the taxes are too high, go talk to them, tell them it's time for them to start right sizing the federal government. And you don't need the federal or to right size the state government. You don't need the federal government saying okay, we're going to give you an extra deduction because your states cannot get their fiscal house in order. But people are voting with their feet and they're choosing states to like Tennessee.
Buck Sexton
Senator Blackburn, I see here on a Fox story that you spent some time doing ride alongs and seeing firsthand what the mission of Immigration and Customs Enforcement looks like these days. What's going on with it? What did you see and what do the American people need to know about the Trump administration's interior immigration enforcement efforts?
Producer Ali
Our Homeland Security investigators and our ICE agents are working about 75 hours a week right now. They are putting in the time. It takes a lot of time. And in order to apprehend these individuals that have orders of deportation, that are criminal illegal aliens and meeting with them, talking with them before we started the ride alongs and that was so instructive to me now seeing how hard they work as they surveil individuals and make certain that they are in a public space, they're not inside a house when they apprehend them, it is something that takes a lot of time. We were surveilling someone who was a convicted child molester and had come into the US And I have not met one single person that says I am really hopeful that we're going to have Some Trende Aragua Ms. 13 or other violent gangs move into our apartment complex or into our community or buy the house that's for sale down the street. They are hopeful they're going to get a family that's got babysitters or kids that can play with their kids. But they're not looking for drug dealers, sex traffickers, gang members or convicted criminals to buy those homes and move into their neighborhood or their community. And ICE is working very hard to rid our communities of those individuals and to see them depends on ported back to their home countries.
Clay Travis
Senator Blackburn, we just saw that there's people throwing fits inside of the Capitol as the big, beautiful bill advances. There's been talk that John Thune, Senate Majority Leader, is holding everybody there to get the votes done. What's the timeframe so far as you can tell? I know there's going to be a lot going on. When are you expecting it to pass? What are you expecting it to look like for people wondering out there?
Producer Ali
First of all, it is going to be the largest tax cut in American history. That is what this bill will give you. It will make those 2017 tax cuts permanent, the largest tax cut in history. Also, no tax on tips, overtime, and my provision, which will hold our senior citizens harmless when it comes to paying that tax on Social Security, which I have tried to get rid of for years. So no tax on tips, overtime, Social Security. In addition to that, if you are a freeloader, a fraudster, an illegal alien, you do not deserve Medicare or Medicaid benefits. And we are going to make certain that you are removed from those roles so we can show strengthen those programs and have them there for the people that deserve them. So the prospects look very good. Everybody is united in getting President Trump's agenda across the finish line, working out some of the final details, getting some of the final scoring is where we are right now.
Clay Travis
And so you expect for President Trump, he's been wanting to get it signed by July 4th or thereabouts. You expect sometime around July 4th?
Producer Ali
Yes, I think you'll see him signing it by July 4th.
Clay Travis
Oh, wow.
Buck Sexton
Excellent. That's really good news. We certainly hope that that gets done.
Producer Ali
People would like to get the largest tax cut in history signed, sealed, delivered by President Donald Trump in time for their Independence Day celebration.
Buck Sexton
Senator Blackburn, so are there any last minute issues that are still being hammered out, or does it seem like a pretty clear path to get that big, beautiful bill done the Fourth of July holiday?
Producer Ali
Oh, there are always some little loose ends that are going to be hammered out. And we're still waiting on Some scoring from cbo. And as I say, why don't we wait on these people? They're always wrong. Their numbers are never right. So we'll finish with those details during the rest of the day and then hopefully we can move to cloture tomorrow on this thing.
Clay Travis
Outstanding stuff, Senator Blackburn. We appreciate the time and we look forward to that bill getting passed and President Trump's agenda continuing to be executed.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Daily Review With Clay and Buck Sexton - Jun 25, 2025
Release Date: June 25, 2025
Host/Authors: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Description: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics, and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.
Timestamp: [02:37] - [06:39]
Clay and Buck delve into the intense mayoral race in New York City, focusing on the Democratic incumbent, Mamdani, whom they refer to as a "communist lunatic." They discuss the challenges of unseating him in a predominantly Democratic city and explore potential Republican candidates like Curtis Sliwa. The duo highlights the difficulties in consolidating support across different political spectrums to challenge Mamdani's stronghold.
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Timestamp: [06:05] - [12:19]
The hosts extend their criticism to other major Democratic-led cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, and Dallas, citing low approval ratings and ineffective governance. They argue that the current Democratic leadership mirrors far-left policies reminiscent of socialist nations like Venezuela and Cuba, leading to mismanagement and public dissatisfaction.
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Timestamp: [10:38] - [14:30]
Clay and Buck discuss the impact of taxation policies and socialist tendencies within the Democratic Party. They highlight how policies like low taxes are manipulated to favor business owners, often at the expense of workers. The conversation touches on the dependency on government assistance in certain demographics and the lack of understanding among voters regarding the consequences of these policies.
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Timestamp: [22:10] - [30:24]
The show shifts focus to international relations, specifically the tensions between Israel and Iran. Clay and Buck critique Joy Reid's controversial stance on Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, arguing that it would destabilize the region rather than promote peace. They commend Trump's foreign policy decisions, including protective measures for Israel and reducing dependencies on NATO allies.
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Timestamp: [22:10] - [43:05]
A significant portion of the episode addresses the issue of intelligence leaks, particularly surrounding the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision. Buck Sexton emphasizes the dangers of leaking classified information and the challenges in identifying leakers due to the limited number of individuals with access. The conversation highlights the potential national security risks and the politicization of intelligence leaks aimed at undermining political figures.
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Timestamp: [53:46] - [61:55]
Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee joins the show to discuss the impending passage of a significant tax cut bill, touted as the "largest tax cut in American history." She outlines the benefits, including making the 2017 tax cuts permanent, eliminating taxes on tips, overtime, and protecting Social Security for seniors. The Senator expresses optimism about the bill's progress towards being signed by July 4th, emphasizing bipartisan support and the administration's commitment to economic growth.
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Timestamp: [61:55] - [66:15]
In the final segments, Clay and Buck reflect on the broader implications of their discussions, touching upon family dynamics, estate planning, and the importance of preparing for the future. They encourage listeners to take proactive steps in securing their families' futures and highlight the importance of their ongoing political and economic analyses.
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In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton provide a critical examination of current political landscapes, both domestically and internationally. They offer a staunch critique of Democratic leadership in major cities, defend Trump's foreign policy, and address pressing issues like intelligence leaks and tax reforms. The conversation with Senator Marsha Blackburn underscores their focus on economic growth and fiscal policies aimed at benefiting American families. Throughout the episode, the hosts interweave their political commentary with actionable advice for listeners, maintaining an engaging and informative dialogue.
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This summary captures the essence of the June 25, 2025, episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, highlighting the main discussions and viewpoints presented by the hosts and their guest.