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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
I think that this conflict will certainly come to the end in the next few weeks. Could be sooner than that, but the conflict will come to the end in the next few weeks and we'll see a rebound in supplies and a pushing down of prices after that. But yes, we were very aware that we would have short term disruption. We would cause a little bit of increased prices on Americans. Prices today are still far below what they were in the Biden administration where they were begging, bartering and bribing, bribing Iran to behave better. We had $5 gasoline in the middle of the Biden administration. We hope we don't get there this time, but at least this increase in gasoline prices is for something that's going to change the geopolitical situation in the world forever.
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Clay Travis
So there you have Energy Secretary Chris Wright laying out a few things. One, the timeline that the White House, Trump himself has been hammering. And I just said that I think that that's probably going to be the timeline which is a few weeks from now. I think it's going to be two weeks or less. We'll see. But there's an artificial disruption in supply that is happening right now because of that. Energy secretary sounds like he's confident that supply will come back online, prices will start to drop from there. That is certainly the hope and I think that that is very possible. Clay, the question that we look at now, though is what exactly, what exactly the end state here is supposed to look like. It's starting to feel more and more like the destruction of Iran's military and then just walking away and saying we can do that again if we want to is the goal here. There is not really much talk of regime change. John Fetterman, the senator, weighed in on this one and the state of things in Iran. This is cut three. Listen to Senator Fetterman. I largely agree with what the president said, that Iran has essentially been defeated. And why don't the Western medias just demand that Iran provide proof of life of the Ayatollah. Because I think the Iranians are doing kind of like a weekend at Ayatollah and they're trying to pretend this guy is functional or even alive at this point. And I think we just call them out and realize that they're a nation that's been effectively defeated and they don't have any leadership. They're unwilling to even provide proof to refute that. Overall, I think it's entirely appropriate to remind the world that if you want their oil, you know, you need to help us to reopen the straits weekend at Ayatollah, as he says, Clay, maybe he's a listener.
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Buck Sexton
We need to. Producer Ali, do we have an invite recently that we've given to John Fetterman? I don't know if we have. We should extend one to him as well to come on in the program because he's making a lot of sense. And the most recent data that I've seen, Buck, says that Fetterman now is more popular with Republicans in Pennsylvania than he is with Democrats. So we should definitely reach out to him. Producer Ali will. And invite him on the program. As you were hearing, President Trump, Buck, you're talking about, like, what are the long range goals? He said that based on the numbers, we have seen a 95% reduction in Iran's drone attacks and a 90% reduction in their missile attacks. And he said, quote, they don't have many missiles left at this point. And so essentially they are wiped out. And I think the question is, who is their leader? We said earlier that there were reports. There's actually been two reports. One is that the Mojtaba had to go to Europe for months to be treated for impotence so that he could have children. Just leaving it here for a moment. Now they're saying that he was gay. Is it possible that the impotence just was with the women? Uh, my point on this is I think more and more there is a likelihood that he is unable to be leader and that they are just using him as a figurehead. Now, Buck, I don't know if you saw this. There's even some reports that he's not in Iran, that he is potentially in Russia, that he may be in China, that he may be in a different country right now, and that Iran is using him as a figurehead. We still have not heard his voice. We haven't seen any video from him at all. They released a statement. They showed up for a celebratory raising ascension, I guess, of him to the leadership of Iran and danced around with a cardboard cutout of him. None of these things inspire confidence that he is okay. And I wonder again, used to do all this analysis, I'm sure there's. How many people do you think are working in the CIA right now on whether Little Mo is still alive? Like if a thousand. Like how many people are looking at every single aspect of evidence out there and writing up reports on this? How big would that group be right now, you think?
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Clay Travis
I mean it's, I don't say it's thousands, a lot. It's a lot of people that are going to be poring over all of the different collection that the intel agencies have access to to try to figure this out. But again, even if he's, let's say he's dead. Okay, so what, so then what right is that? The next step still is not clear. We don't have an opposition that looks like they're willing to take over and we haven't heard about any so called moderate from within the existing governance infrastructure of Iran that could maybe be a more moderate future for the country. So I just feel like we're going to, we're taking away all the Ayatollah's toys, are blowing up all their stuff. We are killing thousands of their soldiers in this process, I might add. People don't really talk about that, but there are, there are people on these ships, there are people operating these trucks and these manpads and such. So we are, we are just to know when, when people say it's not really war, we're blowing up thousands of their soldiers. This is a war. Let's always make sure that we have that obligation to speak truthfully about this stuff. It's not a boots on the ground, all in war, but it's a war. If somebody was doing this to us, we would certainly think of it as a war. So we're in a, in a short term war with Iran, a conflict. And, and I think that we're going to, like I said, Trump is going to wake up one day and look at the, look at the numbers and the charts and everything else and say, all right, we've, we've punished them enough. Now let's see if they want to be more reasonable going forward. I will add, I don't think they will be more reasonable going forward. This is the other part of this, right? This is, this is an intractable problem. It's like dealing with North Korea. Everything that you would think would work On a country that has even the most baseline reason, morality, all these kinds of things. If you look at it from the perspective of, well, of course they should do that because we would do that. No, it's not how they do things. It's certainly not how they do things in Iran. And from a leadership perspective. And, you know, I think everyone should just gauge their expectations with this in mind. There's no opposition faction that has emerged. We're not seeing any protests on the streets or anything like that at all. And yeah, I think Trump's going to wrap this up. We're going to say their military is essentially gone and we'll see what he will say. And I mean this like a quote. Trump will be like, we'll see what happens. That's going to be where this ends.
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Buck Sexton
Look, the message that we have sent to Iran is, first of all, we got to figure out who the leader is. And I think it's not a surprise that they don't want us to know who the leader is because they're aware that we could kill whoever the leader is. And we have established that. That is the fact that I think one of the challenges going forward for Iran will be they now know that we can take out their leadership whenever we want. And so how do you stand up in any way to anyone in the United States or Israel with that knowledge? I'll also point this out. There are reports, and I think this is super significant and it has not been talked about enough. There are reports that Saudi Arabia's leader is calling President Trump and saying, keep hitting them. This is MBS. He is the leader, 43, 44 year old, relatively young leader of Saudi Arabia, the crown prince there who has effectively taken on the power. This is not a United States and Israel against the Middle east war. The Middle Eastern powers, Saudi Arabia, the uae, Qatar, the ones that actually have developed and functional economies, they're all saying, hit Iran. So what I think is going to be the legacy that comes out of this is with Iran neutered, with Iran without any significant weaponry. I think the uae, Bahrain, all of these different places, including Saudi Arabia, Buck are going to sign on Saudi Arabia in particular, who has not done it yet to the Abraham Accords. And we're going to see a level of peace start to emerge in the Middle east that frankly we haven't seen in generations. And that piece is not going to be based on Arab versus Jew. It's going to be based on countries that want to have functional growing economies and countries that don't, you know, the real part that I think has to be galling to Iran is if you study Middle Eastern history, Iran was one of the economic powers of this region for hundreds of years. Now they've been overwhelmingly surpassed by, by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the uae, certainly Israel. And if you're a proud, educated member of Iran's, you know, middle class, which is fairly substantial, don't you have to look around and ask what you've gotten for the last 47 years? Do you feel like, hey, life is better now than it was before the Islamic Republic came into power? The one thing they sold buck was we are a military power and we can punch above our weight. And they just got completely defanged in almost no time at all. What have you actually gotten that's positive after 47 years?
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Clay Travis
This is one of the very sad but true things about authoritarian regimes and why they're so intractable. They can rely on the phobia of the population, the extreme fear of the population. Who wants to be the person, Clay, from the Iranian educated classes, you know, not part of the government's government infrastructure, who ends up the first one dangling from a crane by their neck in the neighborhood. It's very tough. Yeah. People have families. People want to live, they don't want to die. And you know, you're thinking about this, where does this go? This was the, one of the huge problems we had in Afghanistan was even, even the Afghans, who were brave enough and there were many of them to fight alongside Americans at different times against the Taliban. They were like, you guys, you guys aren't going to leave us.
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Buck Sexton
At some point you have our back, right?
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Clay Travis
And then what? You're going to stay and you're going to, you're going to make sure that this, we're in this fight till the end, right? Yeah. You can imagine with the Iranians right now, ok, we're blowing up the military. There's still a lot of bad guys with AK47s and probably, you know, scimitars or something like it, machetes walking around the neighborhood. And this is what, what are we offering on that? And the answer is not a whole heck of a lot. So I don't see this changing this on the ground reality changing in any meaningful way. Which just means that we're in a little bit of, like I said, the mow the grass phenomenon with the Iranian military. We're going to blow up all their stuff. And now whatever they do also, if, when they get enough stuff back, meaning military capability or even just paramilitary capability, terrorist capability, Essentially, they decide to hit us, they'll be like, well, yeah, you guys blew up all of our ships and all of our stuff. And, you know, you can see how this is going to go. Right? We're not, we're not in a place where you, I, I, like you, are more optimistic about the long term prospects here than I, I'm very optimistic about Venezuela and have it all along, to be clear. Very optimistic. I think it was the right move, a great move. Iran, I'm still sitting here, like, I want to see what the, I think I know what the end state is and we can go back and play this in a few weeks. It's going to be Trump saying, all right, we destroyed their military, we showed them what's up. Maybe we'll talk in the future. That's it. I think that's where this is heading. I don't see it heading some other way.
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Buck Sexton
I think it's one, yeah, this is a, interesting conversation. I'm optimistic only in the sense of it's one thing for Israel to do well. It's another thing for the United States to do well. A lot of times it's when people who are similar to you that start doing well, where you, you really start to question the decision making that you have, have embraced.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
It's one thing if Elon Musk gets richer. It's another thing if a guy you went to school with is suddenly a billionaire and you're looking around saying, wait a minute, what did he do? We hadn't made the same grades. Everything else, Iran's neighborhood, the Middle East, a lot of these countries are thriving. Yeah, they used to look down on Saudi Arabia, they used to look down on Qatar, they used to look down on, you know, Bahrain, all these countries. And they used to think, hey, those guys are backwoods. And now all those countries are thriving, the people are rich. They're building huge, incredible edifices all over those countries. And meanwhile, Iran keeps falling further behind. And I do wonder how much looking at your neighbors and how much success they're going to have makes the antagonism and the anger more prevalent in Iran. That's one of the things that I just keep coming back to. It's one thing again, Us, Israel, they've already been, always been richer, but now what about the people used to be better than. I want to tell you, I love trees. My wife makes fun of how much I love trees. I like old trees, I like different types of trees. I walk around and look at trees a great deal and that's why I was so excited about our new sponsor, Fast Growing Trees, an amazing online nursery. They have more than 1200 different varieties of trees, shrubs and plants. Plants and given the fact there's less than 900 tree types in the US that tells you how complete their offerings are. It's a popular website. It's just fun. As we get into spring, go check it out for yourself and see all of the different products that they have, all the different types of trees. You don't even have to have a yard. They've got things that make sense to grow inside of your apartment, inside of your condo, inside of your town home. Fast Growing Trees. They'll let you know what grows well in your neighborhood. You just plug plug in your address. They tell you what which are the plants that make the most sense around you. They ship directly to your home and you can do the planting. But the plants and trees, they do the rest. Give them your zip code. Everything you order, backed by their alive and thrive guarantee. That's how well they've nurtured your news. New Trees and plants fast growing trees.com my name Clay as the promo code for 20% off. That's fast growing trees.com my name C L A Y for 20% off Gray. Go check them out today. Fast growing trees.com my name clay as the promo code for 20% Off. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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an hour, you might as well publish it. Third hour of play in Buck kicks off right now. Iran, the big story of the day. We're going to give you the latest on it. President Trump went live and we carried some of that for you in the first hour, if you want to go back and listen to that. Of course, all three hours of the Clay and Buck show were up until podcast form. As soon as we finish with them and you can listen to them on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcast. Now, Trump covered a whole range of issues. We have this ongoing. I guess we just call it airstrikes. Clay, I'm, I say it's. This is war, but that's, that's okay. I don't want to get into some definitional fight with people on this doesn't. As long as we understand that we are engaged in acts of war, we are killing people, we are blowing up military material. We have lost over a dozen soldiers in this process, or I should say a dozen service members in this process as well. So it's, it's serious business. Whatever we want to call it, it's a serious business. And, and this is something that the country should pay close attention to. Now with the latest on this, there are concerns over the price of oil, the Strait of Hormuz, allies assisting us with the Strait of Hormuz, or the lack thereof, lack of help from them. So here we have Trump. For example, this is cut 34 on whether France's Emmanuel Macron has been helpful and what's going on with our allies and the Strait of Hormuz. Here's what he has to say. Play 34. Have you been speaking with the French
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Buck Sexton
President Macron about the coalition to reopen
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Clay Travis
the Strait of Hormuz?
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Donald Trump
Yeah, I have. I have spoken to him. He's been. On a scale of 0 to 10, I'd say he's been an 8. Not perfect, but it's France. We don't expect perfect.
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Clay Travis
Are you confident that France will help with the reopening of Strait of Hormuz?
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Donald Trump
Yeah, I mean, sure. He's gonna. I think he's gonna help. I mean, I'll let you know. He's. I spoke to him yesterday. I don't do a hard sell on them because my attitude is we don't need anybody. We're the strongest nation in the world. We have the strongest military by far in the world. We don't need them.
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Clay Travis
Clay, Trump being Trump there and just laying it out, he's like, look, if allies want to help, that'd be great. He says Macron, 8 out of 10 from Trump is pretty good because, you know, if it were a 2 out of 10, he wouldn't be shy or 0 out of 10, he wouldn't Be shy. About saying it, but getting more allies to help. This is a, remember, it's not just Iranian oil, it's Iraqi and Kuwaiti. And you know, you have to the Saudi, you got to think about all the different factors here with the Strait of Hormuz and who is affected by, by this.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. And look, I mean, the reality is China, I believe, is the most impacted. They're the ones who need Iranian oil worse than anybody does. And so the amount of oil and gas that impacts us, that comes out of the straight or Hormuz is almost non existent. In fact, we're a net exporting country when it comes to our overall oil and gas. And if you've paid attention, the oil and gas company stocks have actually been on fire because Trump prefers that the price of oil and gas be in the $50 area. The oil and gas providers, some of them say they needed to be in the $60 area. For those of you that are paying attention right now, as I speak to you, or oil and gas is $94 a barrel and it's down from 120 last Sunday when it spiked and hit a higher rate. So the price of oil and gas come down, the price will go up. And President Trump has been pretty clear that when, and I think this is 100% accurate, when we end our actions in the Middle east, they will be coming back down here. By the way, we were talking earlier about Mojtaba Kamene and the fact that Trump has been told that he may actually be gay. But Trump says we don't know where he is or even if he's alive. He was asked about this at a press conference at the Kennedy center just a little bit earlier in the day. Here is cut 35, Trump on the man that has been elevated to the new Supreme Leader of Iran and whether he's even alive. Cut 35.
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Donald Trump
A lot of people are saying that he's badly disfigured. They're saying that he lost his leg, one leg. And he's, you know, been hurt very badly. Other people are saying he's dead. Nobody is saying he's 100% healthy. And you know, he hasn't spoken because the ayatollah would sit and he'd spew hate from a form of a throne. Not as nice as a throne. I like the English throne much better. But it was a, it was a fancy chair. But he'd spew hate from his chair. But you see him a lot, right? This one we haven't seen at all. So that could be for a Lot of different reasons. We don't know, Peter, if he's dead or not.
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Buck Sexton
Okay. A couple of other things here, Buck. President Trump says. So he doesn't. That was a response to a question from Peter Doocy. He says, we don't know if he's alive or dead. And President Trump says one of the challenges here, Iran wants to talk and they say they want peace. But President Trump says, we killed so many of their leaders, we're not even sure who's alive or who we're negotiating with. Cut 36.
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Donald Trump
All of their leaders are dead, as far as we know, but they're all dead. We don't know who we're dealing with. We knocked out the first group. Then the second group met.88 met to pick the leader because the first group was all dead. And the second group got knocked out. They're all dead. Then a third group met. I would think they're a little nervous about meeting. I don't know if they're nervous. Maybe they're not. Maybe they're crazy. If they're not nervous, then they're crazy. But we met with the next group and. But we don't know who their leader is. We have people wanting to negotiate. We have no idea who they are.
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Buck Sexton
And then. So again, we have no idea who the leader is. We don't know who we're negotiating with. I did think this was interesting, Buck, and we were talking about this a little bit off the air. President Trump won't say which president he talked to. Former president. Although we'll tell you who our guesses are here in a moment. But he said, I wish I had done it. Here is cut 37.
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Donald Trump
Every president knew. I've spoken to a certain president who I like, actually a past president, former president. He said, I wish I did it. I wish I did. But they didn't do it. I'm doing it. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Which president?
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Donald Trump
Which. I can't tell you this. I don't want to embarrass him. It would be very bad for his career, even though he's got no career left.
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Buck Sexton
Okay. Certain president who he likes that says, I wish I had done it, Buck. Bill Clinton, it feels to me if you listened, I don't know if we played that. Maybe we can go grab it. Bill Clinton in his Epstein deposition said, as far as I know, President Trump never did anything wrong. And he. Can we go grab that? I know it was in the roster. Producer Greg if you can grab that. Because I don't think we ever played it. But I meant to. To have us play it because President Trump has been actually fairly complimentary of President Clinton. They used to play golf a lot. I don't think it's Biden because certainly Trump does not seem to be very fond of Biden. I don't think it's Obama because I don't think Trump and Obama would talk about. George W. Bush is the only other former president. This is. This could be. But it doesn't seem like President Trump and George W. Bush have much of a positive relationship. So would you agree with me if you were assessing who the conversation was with that by far it would be Bill Clinton?
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Clay Travis
Yeah. I think if you put Bill Clinton and Donald Trump in a room right now, I think they bro it out for an hour and like, are laughing and having a good time. I don't think that Trump has any animosity toward Bill Clinton at all. I don't. I can't think of Bill Clinton taking any meaningful shots at Trump publicly either. I do not think that Donald Trump likes Barack Obama. I do not think that they would have this kind of offline conversation. I could not see that. So, you know, yeah, I would. I would say it's probably.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I. The only other one I think it could be is George W. Bush. Right. And there's never really been any indication that Trump and George W. Bush have much of a relationship at all. So I think of the former presidents, Clinton would be the one that he has the best relationship with by far.
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Clay Travis
Well, what he's speaking to here as well is when he says, a former president who says, I wish I could have done this too. The Iranian regime has just been causing problems and not like trade problems. I mean, you know, Iranians, they directed, you know, the. Via Hezbollah as a proxy. They'll direct terrorist attacks all over the the world. There's a horrific attack at the Jewish center in Buenos Aires. I've actually been to that Jewish center and been there for a ceremony commemorating this down in Argentina. Just how horrible this attack. You wouldn't think that, you know, Middle Eastern terrorist groups would be reaching deep into Argentina at some. But they did. So this is the reality. I think Clay is Trump just lost patience with this Nazi nonsense. I think he realized that there was no world in which the Iranians were going to meaningfully agree to verifiable denuclear weaponization and everything. And it was all just chirping and chat, you know what I mean? It was all nonsense and all this talk and all the negotiations. Trump, I think, and his team are approaching them in good faith. And they just, the more they deal with the Iranians, the more they feel like you're just, you're just constantly playing games and lying. And he said, enough is enough. And I think that there are a lot of people that after especially many of you listening to this, you know what I'm talking about. In Iraq, it was Iranians working through the Shia militias, which were just essentially armed, tripped and armed, trained and equipped factions of the Iranians in Iraq, they were blowing up Americans just to kill Americans, maiming them, killing. With these EFPs, I've talked about the explosively formed penetrators. The Iranians came up with an explosive that was specifically designed to penetrate the hulls of American armored vehicles. Because after all the IEDs, our vehicles got up armored. But these EFPs could punch through almost anything. And they did this just to kill Americans. They weren't going to take over in Iraq, you know, they weren't going to invade themselves, so they kind of took over via proxy. But people got pissed off about this and Trump was pissed off about it. And I get it. So part of this also is just we're sick of the Iranians thinking that they can do this stuff. But I'll just remind everyone, they stay in charge. They're not going to forget about this. So it's not like the problem is solved just by we keep hearing defang. I've used the phrase myself, the fangs are going to grow back if the same people are in charge here.
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Buck Sexton
By the way, we didn't play this. Bill Clinton was deposed in the Epstein related investigations. And here is what he said about President Trump. He goes out of his way, not even directly asked this, I think in a Democrat line of questioning, to say, hey, I never saw anything that would suggest Trump was engaged in any kind of illegality.
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Donald Trump
Listen, he never, the president never, this is 20 something years ago, never said anything to me to make me think he was involved in anything improper with regard to Epstein either. He, he just didn't. That's the truth. You know, as I said earlier, the only conversation I had with President Trump about this was in the early 2000s. And I have no information that he did anything wrong. I just want it all out there. I want everybody to get it all out there and let everybody see where we are.
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Buck Sexton
I just thought that was interesting. In the, in the prelude to that, Clinton said, hey, you're not asking me specifically about this, but he just put it out there, which makes me think, and I know they played golf together before again, Presuming President Trump is being honest about this, and I think he probably is. I think he probably does talk to Bill Clinton every now and then. I think he liked Bill Clinton. Um, it also ties in buck with. I think Bill Clinton, if you go back in time, would say not having taken out North Korea's nuclear abilities is one of his regrets from when he was president. I think he said that publicly. And, and I know that we've made that analogy, certainly I have, that this is the modern day equivalent of taking out the nuclear opportunity before it arises. And so I think they probably have talked about this. So I would, I would be very surprised if he's not talking about Bill Clinton.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I think that's probably the case now. We have to see where all of this goes and how long this continues on. And we haven't really discussed it, Clay, but there is something of a fracture in the MAGA world right now where there are a lot of very ardent Trump supporters who are really, really upset about this operation in Iran. I think that they will stop being so upset about it when the operation ceases, which I believe will be soon. But, you know, this is causing, in an election year now, we're early in the election year, but this is definitely causing a bit of static on our own side. And I think that people have started to lose sight a little bit. And this is true in a whole range of ways of what a danger the Democrats are, how much suffering, how much waste, how much fraud, how much misery, how much crime, how we go down list. If Democrats take back power, we will all have to suffer through. And I think that will be a unifying thing as it gets closer. I would hope it's a unifying thing to recognize the Democrat party of 2024 that was soundly defeated is the exact same Democrat Party now, except there are even more, you know, outraged, angry, and emotionally unstable. And they are thinking that as soon as Trump is no longer leading, they'll have an opportunity. So that's. That's part of this, too. So I'm just saying there, I know there are voices out there who are very upset at Trump about this, who are Trump supporters. I don't care about the I hate Trump even if he cures cancer people, because they're, they're irrelevant. I mean, there's nothing to do for them. But I do think we have to keep an eye on how long this goes because you want people to show up in the midterms and prevent Trump from being completely stymied by a Democrat controlled House which is certainly a high concern. I have high concern about it. All right. Protecting yourself and your family with non lethal protection is not a new concept. Modern day versions have been around for more than a half a century. There's a company called Sabre. The spelling's important. S A B R E that has been manufacturing non lethal projectiles for a long time. I'm talking about decades. And now's a good time for you to put together your self protection plan, your home protection plan using sabers non lethal tools. Because home invasions happen all too often all across the country, even in places where you would never expect it. So it's just worth being safe and taking action today so that you can defend yourself if the time comes. Sabers home defense launcher is one of the non lethal items that you should purchase. Powerful protection designed to help keep you safe. We own these. We know how easy they are to use. The Sabre home defense launcher delivers seven powerful impact or pepper projectiles, two more than most competitors. When safety matters, America chooses Sabre. Number one brand trusted by police and millions worldwide. Sabre is how it's spelled. Don't wait for a close call. Get protection now@sabreradio.com that's S A B R E radio.com or call 844-824. Safe
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Buck Sexton
news you can count on and some laughs too. Clay Travis at Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Okay, Buck, this is real, like I said, and not spectacular. For those of you out there that are Seinfeld fans, these are the real rules. In order to compete for best picture, all films must now meet the diversity and inclusion quota. To be nominated. There are. These are the requirements, Buck. A lead or significant supporting actor must be from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an under underrepresented racial or ethnic group, including black, East Asian, Hispanic, indigenous peoples, Middle Eastern, North African, Pacific Islander, South Asian, including Bangladeshi, Bhutanese, Indian, Nepali, Pakistani and Sri Lankan, Southeast Asian, including Burmese, Cambodian, Filipino, Hmong in Indonesian, Laotian. Some of these I'm not even that familiar with. Candidly, Malaysian mien, I don't know what that is. Singaporean, Thai and Vietnamese. I think I deserve credit for not saying thigh. All right, that's one. This is one part. Second part, Buck. At least 30% of all actors not submitted for Oscar consideration must be from at least two underrepresented groups, including women, racial or ethnic groups, LBGTQ plus people with cognitive or physical disabilities or who are deaf or hard of hearing. Now, there's a joke there, because you could just be like, we'll just say that he's, you know, like, sub IQ'd and then another one, buck. Main storyline or subject matter. The main storyline, theme, or narrative of the group must be centered on an underrepresented group. Women, racial or ethnic group, LGBTQ plus, people with cognitive or physical disabilities or who are deaf or hard of hearing. So in order to qualify, you have to meet the diversity and inclusion guidelines to be considered for a movie. So, for instance, I saw Jimmy Faith tweet about this. In theory, the Godfather would not qualify, I don't believe, as a best Picture nominee now, because my recollection of it is it's the story of an Italian family, obviously mobsters, but there's not a lot of diversity, equity, and inclusion in that film. I would imagine a movie like Braveheart or Gladiator would not qualify now for an Oscar. Like, you can go back through a lot of phenomenal movies that would no longer qualify to even be nominated. Titanic, I can't imagine, would qualify. Really? It's kind of crazy to think about.
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Clay Travis
Yes. In Braveheart, Edward Longshanks throws the gay lover of his son out the window summarily. I think that would be a big problem for the today. I think there would be issues that they would not, you know, be willing to overlook from movies that were. Were celebrated as the best movies of our youth.
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Buck Sexton
It's.
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Clay Travis
There's a part of me that's. That is actually just sad because movies were the dominant art form in America for. For really. I think everyone listening right now. I mean, you can go back even into the 60s, and, you know, people would say music in the 60s, 70s maybe, was. Had the same kind of cultural resonance. The biggest movies in the 80s, 90s, and the other 2000s were the biggest cultural events that we had. Okay? It was bigger than any band. It was bigger than anything else, and it certainly had the most staying power, I think. And now it's just trash. They're just churning out trash all the time. And I think part of this is that once you've created some of these dei, which really. It's race Marxism, and once the Academy and Hollywood in general put this race Marxism into place, it's very hard to get rid of because you have a lot of people now who have positions of authority that they were given because of skin color, LGBTQ status, whatever it may be. Right. Gender identity. Do you think that they're ever going to say, you know what? We're. We're kind of messing things up by creating these rules that. That privilege and empower people like me. No, of course not. So they're the ones calling the shots, and they're the ones that are going to say that that list you read off is insane. It's insane. And it also tells you on its face that this is not about the best movie. This is about the movie that the people that think that these rules, you know, the movies that the people that think about these rules want you to see and think is the best. Well, it's very, very thinly sliced onion.
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Buck Sexton
So think about this. Could you even. Could Saving Private Ryan be nominated? When. When I think about history movies, right, we make fun of the fact that you watch a Viking historical drama and suddenly there's a black female Viking, and you're like, I, you know, leader, I, I don't think it was very historically accurate that the Vikings were led by black women. And then you see, like, the Shonda Rhimes of the world who make tons of money from Netflix, and they say, you know, race is such a cultural construct, and they make, I don't know, whatever it is, Pride, and Pride Prejudice was Bridgerton, the thing that she watches. I, I don't make. I don't watch it now. But you basically couldn't nominate a, A, A show like that for inclusion because it's set in England in the 17, 18th century, whatever the heck it is. But I mean, think about it. Just recently, would you say Saving Private Ryan, whatever you think is probably what, one of the jewels of modern American cinema. If you consider just the entire concept of the movie from start to finish, the D Day shots, everything else, it clearly wouldn't qualify for Best Picture. They would have to create a suck. Think about it. They would.
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Clay Travis
Almost none of the best pictures would qualify. Almost. No, I don't think any of them.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, if you go back and look through them. But anything that has a historical aspect either, they have to create a subplot that has nothing to do with the actual history, right? So you're like, and here Saving Private Ryan, and now we're going to also tell the story of the Tuskegee Airmen, and we're going to weave somehow that into this story of D Day. But I mean, think about, like, Braveheart, they would just create black characters in Scotland and they would have them in the movie so that they could qualify for Oscars, right? I mean, any movie that's made. I just watched Napoleon. Any movie that's made that actually features white guys and any military drama, for instance, of the last thousand years, basically couldn't be made and compete for an Oscar now without a created subplot that involves a gay lesbian angle or a black subplot or a female subplot. I mean, maybe you could say, oh, we're going to make Josephine the star of the Napoleon drama, so that it qualifies and she's going to have 30% of lines. This is awful. It destroys great art by making you check boxes as opposed to just make a great film. The Godfather is a perfect example because probably the greatest film that's ever been made. I mean, it's up.
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Clay Travis
Used to be. It used to be the case that the Best picture nominees, and also just in general, the movies that would get a lot of acclaim were also the movies that everybody saw and a lot of people love. Now, that's not universally the case or it's not 100%, but movies that people love would get nominated for stuff, you know. Didn't Gladiator win Best Picture? Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Gladiator won best Titanic, one best picture. Did Braveheart win?
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Clay Travis
Yes, Braveheart. 100% Braveheart won best Picture and Best Director. So Mel Gibson.
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Buck Sexton
So Saving Private Ryan win.
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Clay Travis
I mean, no, no. Shakespeare in Love, I think, beat Saving Private Ryan that year.
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's.
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Clay Travis
I remember this as a Weinstein Miramax film.
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Buck Sexton
Well, Harvey Weinstein never did anything wrong. We all know that.
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Clay Travis
So we had Hollywood's favorite.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, everybody who lectures you about morality, they loved Harvey Weinstein.
- [42:17]
Clay Travis
I. It's. It's astonishing to see how far it's fallen, though, where now it's like they're celebrating weird art house films and trying to get everybody to act like they're so great and they're just not. When people say, like, what makes a movie good? Is it really entertaining? Are you sitting there and it's in the time is flying by because you're really into the story. I mean, I think that's one of the first ways you can know. I mean, the movie Sinners is just.
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Buck Sexton
It's a.
- [42:41]
Clay Travis
It's a rip off of From Dusk Till dawn, which is a movie that is probably best seen after drinking a 40 of Old English or smoking something when you're in college. Okay. From Dusk Till dawn is not a great movie. It has its entertaining moments and it is among the best.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you, Salma Hayek for Dancing with the Python. Back in the day.
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Clay Travis
I knew. I knew Clay was going to come in with The Salma Hayek there. I just knew I was one of
- [43:06]
Buck Sexton
the great scenes in film history. I'll just point out Selma was.
- [43:10]
Clay Travis
Selma did very well for herself, so. But this is. You look at sinners and the plot, you just. You just read the plot. You're like, this is stupid. It's a stupid plot. It's not. It's not a good move.
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Buck Sexton
I haven't seen it. I love that you hate sinners this much. I haven't seen it at all.
- [43:25]
Clay Travis
You know that there's now memes about people that feel like they have to tell you how much they hate sinners. Like, this is a thing now, you know, because it's. It's not enough to just be like, it's a bad movie. Like they want to tell everybody. But yeah, I'm. I'm somebody who wants to tell her. It's a terrible.
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Buck Sexton
That's the great line for succession. Do you remember when they're in that party and they're like, what kind of party is this? And he was like, it's a party where you can tell everybody that you actually think that Hamilton.
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Clay Travis
Hamilton is bad. Yeah, that totally resonated with me because I. I was kind of a holdout.
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Buck Sexton
There were people who were right of
- [43:55]
Clay Travis
center who were like, I think Hamilton's really good. And I was like, you're just part of the mob, part of the herd on this one. It is absolutely not. Hamilton is trash. It is garbage start to finish. There is no reason for you to pretend that you like this. I know it's the most successful financially musical of all time. I don't care.
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Buck Sexton
Is that true? Yes. No way.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
It's not more successful than Cats and Les Mis.
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Clay Travis
Check it out, team.
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Buck Sexton
There's no way that's true. Look at it. Those are just way long. I. I know nothing about musicals. I just don't think it's old enough.
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Clay Travis
Clay. People were charging like a thousand dollars a ticket for years to go to see Hamilton. And that was just like basic tickets. It's crazy. It was a total. It was like. It was like paying penance for all of America's historic and. And racial wrongs. You had to pay like a mortgage payment to go see Hamilton. To be a good person song.
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Buck Sexton
I thought it was okay, but I like history and I was. I just. I. I still think a country in western version of the Obama administration played by white actors to prove how race doesn't matter would actually just kill. And I would love to see the reaction. We're going to do a country in western version of Obama and we've got white men and women playing Barack. I'm going to let you, because race
- [45:10]
Clay Travis
is a culture, let you redeem yourself here. I'm going to let you redeem yourself. What's better, Scream 7 or Hamilton?
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Buck Sexton
Scream 7.
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Clay Travis
There we go, right? I haven't even seen Scream 7 and I can tell you it's better than Hamilton because Hamilton sucks.
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Buck Sexton
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- [47:04]
Clay Travis
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we are talking about the Iran situation here and everything going on around it and it looks like this war is going to continue on for at least some weeks ahead. We've also got a lot of your talkbacks. Your thoughts, your latest for all of us, which we want to get to for sure. Do we still. Let me see if we still have. Here we go. Podcast listener. Oh wow. This is not about Iran. Clay, did you have something you want to jump? This is going to get unserious very fast here These talk backs. Do. Do you have serious analysis to offer up?
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Buck Sexton
Well, I. What did I tease. I do want to mention before we have some, some fun here. This is awful. And it's a story that I think should be getting more attention.
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Clay Travis
Oh, you're talking serious thing.
- [47:52]
Buck Sexton
The Iranian women's soccer team refused to sing the national anthem in Australia during a tournament that happened about the same time as our attacks on Iran began. The women were then threatened by their minders, as unfortunately often occurs, and seven of them, I believe was the initial number, were granted asylum in Australia because they were terrified to go back home. There are reports now that Iran has been seizing the family members of these women and torturing them. And the women have now, for the most part, all left Australia and relinquished, rescinded their asylum claims. I believe, team, if you can make this. I believe they're down to two people now who are left in Australia to members of that team and everybody else has, has decided to. To return to Iran even though obviously they are likely to face severe torture themselves and maybe even execution for some of them. On top of that, Buck no. 1, the Megan Rapinoe of the world, all of the U.S. women's soccer players who have lectured us about how awful Trump is and how they won't go to the White House and how they don't want your support if you're a Trump voter. All of those things the Megan Rapinos and their crowd have said. None of these women have said a world, a word, Buck, about these Iranian women soccer players and spoken up for basic human rights around the world or supported them in any way. I just think it's very much worth considering when we look at the hypocrisy there of so many of these athletes. When real danger is faced and when real courage is required by women's athletes, they won't say a word. And unfortunately, these women, we may not see some of them ever again because they may well be tortured or killed for having the bravery to actually do something to stand up for freedom. It kind of ties in with your point earlier, Buck, which is it's hard to be the guy or gal who stands up for a new regime when the regime in power still has the ability to kill you. It takes unbelievable courage and frankly, a high tolerance for risk, not only for you, but for your family to rise up with the idea of throwing over this government, overthrowing this government, when the reality may be there might not be very many people following you.
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Clay Travis
It is interesting, I think as well, Clay, with this. And it's a really, it's a terrible story. It's important for people to know about this story. But the same voices who are so quick to criticize Trump and the US for its actions in Iran have ne' er a word of criticism to share about the Iranian regime ever really. Iran just gets to do what it wants. And a lot of people in the commentariat and in politics don't really have any problem with Iran. They can do whatever they can sponsor as much terrorism as they want. They can be as anti, they can be as, as per, they can persecute gays as much as they want, they can whatever it is that they want to do and they're allowed to do it. And they can be authoritarian, non democratic state, no elections, nothing else. And you might say, oh, but what about all these other Arab countries in the region? Okay, yeah, but they're not causing problems for everybody else. So you know, we take problems based on the order of importance and priority, I think, and that's how our focus should be distributed. They have nothing to say about these Iranian countries. They have no problem, I'm sorry, with these Iranian actions. They have no problem with it. Or at least they don't feel the need to vocalize that it's only America that they're willing to speak out against and trash. And I just think that goes to the unseriousness of so much of the anti American commentariat in general. These are people who only find fault. It actually reminds me a lot of the anti Israel commentariat. They'll criticize Israel. They have nothing to say about, about Gaza being run by Hamas as a terrorist state for as long as it was and what an awful place it is and how in so many of these countries, you know, there's this, there's this perfect correlation with regimes that hate Israel and hate Jews and horrible crappy countries that nobody wants to live in really and that have nothing but misery and despair as their primary day to day existence. There's a 100% correlation. It's kind of amazing, isn't it? You look at the countries that hate Israel the most and they're the crappiest places in many cases in the world. And the people who speak out against Israel, and you see this even in the United nations, have nothing to say, not a word to say about tyranny and oppression and violence and disgusting behavior from Muslims who are running the show in Gaza or from Muslims who have been running Iran into the ground for. I mean, Iran should be a really nice country. You ever notice Something, nobody wants to visit this place. It's not safe now, obviously. But, I mean, in general, like, no one wants Americans. We can't go to Iran. We can't see all the beautiful architecture and the history and eat the pistachios and buy the carpets. We can't do all this, which is just shameful. And really, very few people can and will do any of this because you cannot trust that government at all. They may decide to grab you, to make an example of you, because they're a fundamentally immoral regime, a fundamentally evil regime. And the people that have done all these things, they're not going to get better, they're not going to improve. And so finally, Trump, I think, makes the decision, we at least have to raise the cost of doing business for these maniacs. And I think that's a big part of why we're currently bombing their military into smithereens.
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Buck Sexton
And that's why ultimately this story might be that we just. I think you use the mow the grass analogy, where ultimately we destroy as much as we can. We leave and we say, hey, in five years, we may have to come back and do this again. And that's assuming that we don't get actually people rising up. Okay, I mentioned that we would play a couple of cuts from the. From the Oscars. Buck. This is Cha Chandrin, who I'm sure I mispronounced her name. She is an actor in Bridgerton. So this is perfect. I don't know what else she was in, but she was on the red carpet and they asked her why she was speaking out and she said she's demanding a ceasefire in Gaza. Now, that happened six months ago, but she's maybe a little bit behind. This is Hollywood actress Charithra Chandran. Listen, cut 30. It's an artist for ceasefire pen. And what we are demanding is a ceasefire in Gaza.
- [54:58]
Clay Travis
And I think that I am so
- [55:00]
Buck Sexton
blessed to have a platform and this
- [55:02]
Clay Travis
is the least I can do to use it.
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Buck Sexton
And like, sometimes the news cycle is
- [55:07]
Clay Travis
so fast and people move on, but
- [55:09]
Buck Sexton
the people in Gaza and the west
- [55:10]
Clay Travis
bank are still suffering.
- [55:12]
Buck Sexton
So, yeah, just bringing attention to that. Okay. Yeah, the ceasefire started six months ago, so great job. You've done an incredible, phenomenal job of, of being on top of the news.
- [55:26]
Clay Travis
But you just have to remember I'd never heard of this person before. She's obviously an actress. The point of her saying these things is not. Has nothing to do with Gaza.
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Buck Sexton
Yes.
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Clay Travis
This is. You always have to remember this. This is true about, about Libs about leftists, about Democrats and the global left in general. The causes are largely irrelevant. It's what taking the side of the cause says about them to their peers. So her saying this, you know, you could say, hey, I'm here to save the dodo bird. And someone could pull her aside, be like, dodo bird's been extinct, honey, for like a hundred and something years. Doesn't matter. She wants you to know she's an environmentally conscious person. Like the stupidity, the lack of geopolitical knowledge, or even curiosity. Clay, it's not a problem. The whole point is your declaration of fealty to the thing, to the current thing that people have to pretend they care about so that other people around them think they're a good person. And that's all this really is. And unfortunately, this is very powerful. The kind of thing that in Manufactured Illusion, a great book you should all get, by the way, if you have not already New York Times bestseller. Go get your copy. But it's in there.
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Buck Sexton
I would love to have had a microphone or maybe just an audio transcript of some of the conversations she had with people. As to your point. They all said, it's so great of you to use your platform to speak out against the war that's continuing in Gaza, because they also have no idea that there's been a ceasefire for six months. But I did say we would play a nice thing from the Oscars. You may have seen this, buck. I saw it on social media a little bit ago. Best Actress winner Jesse Buckley from Hamnet, that don't know who she is, did not see this movie, but she decided to use her acceptance speech to praise marriage and promote motherhood. This was actually, I'm told, quite nice. Cut 22.
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Clay Travis
You, Fred. I love you, man. I love you. You're the most incredible dad. You're my best friend and I want to have 20,000 more babies with you. I do, I do. And Isla, my little girl who is eight months who has absolutely no idea what's going on and is probably dreaming of milk, but this is kind of a big deal and I love you and I love being your mom and I can't wait to discover life beside you. It's Mother's Day in the UK today, So I would like to dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a mother's heart.
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Buck Sexton
So very positive there. I didn't know it was Mother's Day in the UK over the weekend. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms in the UK listening to us right now. Maybe there's two or three, but. But I thought that was pretty great. So we wanted to at least share a positive that did happen last night on the Oscars. Get married and have kids. It's a good thing to do. All right, Buck, you've got us going into this break and then we've got some laughs for you. A lot of very good talkbacks. I've seen a preview and we'll have some fun with those. But first, Buck, take us away.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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